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who are watching it compared to this time last year. huge people are tuning in, and it's so important right now that people are getting that connection with nature, so they're doing it through digital platforms and online wildlife webcams. it may be some comfort to have a look and see that, as human society struggles to cope with the virus, the natural world carries on uninterrupted. claire marshall, bbc news. that's it. now on bbc one, time for the news where you are. have a very good night.
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hello to viewers in the uk and around the world and welcome to this look at some front pages of the newspapers and news sites around the world that we have been seeing in the news were present with me are sam lister the deputy political editor of the daily editor on the left and maia goodfellow on the right. here is a flavour of some of the stories and angles leading at the stories and angles leading at the moment. the times newspaper reports that a coronavirus vaccine could be ready in early september according to a leading british scientist. the daily mail says the uk will not be back to normal for a year but reports part of the knock —— lockdown could be lifted in weeks. the mirror leads on a plea from nhs staff for more personal protective equipment. di says that this sunny easter weekend will be the test of the uk's resolved to stay indoors in the fight against coronavirus was at the international financial times reports that the us grams 20 group of leading nations
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agreed on the largest or supply agreement in history. the new york times leads on china for the back spending on big relief passages in response of the coronavirus crisis. the huffington post reports the world ride death toll has hit 100,000. -- world ride death toll has hit 100,000. —— worldwide death toll. just making sure, sam uk and hear me on the left, and my on the right, do what you need to. the lines are working. we are going to start with the mirror. whose headline reads... nhs workers plead with the government to get more kit... desperate staff have been using curtains to make their own kit. sam lister we have been hearing this day in day out that the nhs need kit. the government says they are getting to them but i suppose this front page would say where is it? absolutely this is the very human impact of the lack of ppe that doctors and nurses and other people
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in these high—riskjobs need. and as you say people currently resourcing to ripping off curtains to make their own ppe, a really horrible story to have to look at that. today we had the daily press conference at downing street taken by matt hancock the health secretary and it has been a recurring theme. he today talked about a herculean effort made to resolve the problem but admitted there had been challenges in getting this scare to people out in front line. but actually, 742 million pieces have been disputed already and it shows the scale of the operations that is just a huge would just stick operation. sam lister. maia goodfellow with some of the most well organised book shelves i've ever seen. how and why is it so difficult in your understanding to get ppe to medics? i'm not sure it
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needed to be this difficult. when i saw this front—page i thought was abdul chaudhry who was a doctor who died of coronavirus but before he died of coronavirus but before he died was asking, pleading for ppe for himself and his colleagues and i think one of the things i am quite surprised by looking at the spread of the headlines we have seen on the front pages so far is how few newspapers have led with the headline being the fact that the uk has the highest daily death rate in a24 has the highest daily death rate in a 24 hour period which is 980 people, 980 people who have friends, families, loved ones who have died in this 24 hour period. higher than anywhere else in europe apart from france but france includes care home deaths in those figures and we don't and the reason why i am surprised by this is because we should be focusing on what has gone wrong as well. we had a big lead time, the uk had time to prepare for this and i think when you see these questions that need to be asked about why nhs
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that need to be asked about why nhs that did not have equipment sooner, why some still don't, why there is not testing, why there isn't contact oi'i not testing, why there isn't contact on the scale that the world health organization has said we needed, and this is notjust for the long term, the need to be an inquiry into what needs to happen but we need answers i'iow needs to happen but we need answers now to try to change course because of things like testing and contact raising are crucial according to the world health organization. it is really important looking ahead to try and limit the spread that we ta ke try and limit the spread that we take these things really seriously. i want to pick up on one of maya's points. in these first editions i have her, i can't see the 980 figure on front pages, i know you are not an editor ofa on front pages, i know you are not an editor of a newspaper but you must at least hear some of those conversations. are the stately figures are something that should be on the front pages or should as maya said focus on campaigning as opposed to putting those big figures out every day? there is lots of
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different elements to this crisis. there is not just different elements to this crisis. there is notjust one story that must be the story that everybody leads on. we are all looking at different angles day and day out asking different questions at the press c0 nfe re nces . asking different questions at the press conferences. so many different concerns about many different aspects of this. all the papers are focusing on the bits that they think are most important to their readers on that day. i will say one of the most important things to come out of the ppe story today in the press conference today is that the chief nurse ruth may made a very personal appeal to people to stay at home and follow the rules. and saying ultimately if people stay out of hospital, and don't get it, that is the best way you can help doctors and nurses. that is the top where you can support the nhs by abiding by these rules. —— chief nurse ruth may. we are moving on to the times
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newspaper which has a headline that iam sure newspaper which has a headline that i am sure people would turn to first if they saw on the newspapers in the morning facet the headline is vaccine for virus could be ready by september. my own personal copy here i have circled the word could about 50 times and i'm sure you have probably done the same. i have tried to read the article but we only have the front page at the moment. the article quotes sarah gilbert, a professor at oxford saying she is 80% confident that the vaccine would work in that first two columns, i do not see any indication of the time. it's worth saying the bbc has done research on this story as well and the bbc‘s understanding is september would be the most optimistic and least likely timeframe just to add that in there as we look at this story. but maya goodfellow if there isa story. but maya goodfellow if there is a rack of newspapers this would be the one everyone would look at first. i hope that optimism turns out to be true. i think that we are
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all wanting there to be a vaccine and wanting this to be readily available very soon but by the estimates we have seen in the last few months he looks like it could be longer, i am few months he looks like it could be longer, lam not few months he looks like it could be longer, i am not going to try to predict, i longer, i am not going to try to predict, lam not longer, i am not going to try to predict, i am not a scientist so i am going to hold back on that. but i think in the meantime what i mentioned before was this real need to have testing and contact tracing. we are working in the times and at some of the other newspaper front pages about how this might last, in terms of the lockdown and the changes to our daily life and the way to get out of something like a lockdown is to understand how this is spread through the population, understand who has had it so that we can gradually move away from this lockdown. i think a vaccine i imagine is quite some way off but if lam proven imagine is quite some way off but if i am proven wrong imagine is quite some way off but if i am proven wrong then i will be very happy about that and i think in the meantime we need to be really looking at trying to trace and track where the virus is currently spreading. sam lister on this particular segment the three of us will not be able to analyse the
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science behind that headline. people in different papers i am sure yours will be analysing that science as the bbc will as well but how dangerous might it be for newspapers to give people false hope? dangerous might it be for newspapers to give people false hope ?|j dangerous might it be for newspapers to give people false hope? i think all newspapers are really trying to be very careful about not doing that during this crisis. it is really crucial that people are not misled and givena crucial that people are not misled and given a false sense of optimism. but the times is reporting that an academic from oxford university is not a academic from oxford university is nota main academic from oxford university is not a main story... it is eight which admit story to write and it does provide a glimmer of hope and a sarah gilbert saying that there is an 80% chance of this being found and she said that is not based on a hunch and that there are teams across the world of people... many
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people who would really be hoping for this to be true. they are working on this absolutely around—the—clock and racing to find this solution and she knows better than many psi would defer to her on this. interesting that you say that because i often have to interview pharaoh adjusts and people working on vaccines and i feel embarrassed sometimes asking when you will be able to get a vaccine even by asking that i am putting pressure on them that i am putting pressure on them that they don't particularly want. —— i interview virologists. you can understand from the public that there might be an understanding to get out of this is a vaccine and why stories like this are important to report on. of course and i think everyone's eyes will be on the sand i think everyone's eyes will be on the sand ithink in everyone's eyes will be on the sand i think in the launcher what this really shows us is the importance in investing in science and that kind of work done in terms finding new microbes, being with other things in
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society and talking about what happened when sars had an outbreak that we began to develop some of these vaccines and then stopped. and then thinking about in the long—term how you develop some of these medicines and put the money into that. you can't always predict what outbreaks will look like and the nature of that is going to be but i do think really investing in science to make sure we are prepared as best as we can be in future is key and we are seeing scientist all around the world collaborate on this and showing the importance of that international collaboration. maya goodfellow thank you. we will look at the next newspaper, the daily mail. a fascinating contrast you have both probably seen. the headline the uk not back to normal for a year, that word underlined, official advice to ministers on the small snippet from the front page, no named minister which assessed senior government no named minister which assessed senior government sources no named minister which assessed senior government sources talk about this. it is fascinating to compare the headline of the daily mail, not actionable for the air, with the
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times saying a vaccine could be ready by september. sam with her you can imagine newspaper readers in the morning thinking what is going on?|j do get that idea. it is confusing for readers but this is working on the best and worst estimates of how this will play out and obviously some of the advice has been looked at by the mail here. but the crucial point is that both stories are ultimately in essence the same in that they are explaining how the vaccine is absently crucial in finding a way out of the walk down measures and return to normal life that we are desperate to find. whether we end up with the times scenario or the male scenario, the vaccine gets us out of this.|j
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scenario or the male scenario, the vaccine gets us out of this. i think thatis vaccine gets us out of this. i think that is interesting. some people talk about the lockdown being and by the consensus it seems that it ends with a vaccine because the lockdown isa managing with a vaccine because the lockdown is a managing tactic. maya goodfellow a question to you about not being back to normalfor a goodfellow a question to you about not being back to normal for a year, can people live like this for a year? from everything i have read and there is a lot of speculation about what is going to happen, we are ina about what is going to happen, we are in a very unpredictable situation in a lot of ways knowing what will happen if there is a second spike or second screen of the virus that evolves. from everything i have read is that these measures will change depending on intensity of where the virus is at. it's not necessarily that we will be in these very strict measures the entire time but i do think we need to talk about the fact that obviously we are all experiencing this and we are all having to navigate this and it is clear that there are all kinds of problems for different people. people are experiencing this differently so people who have
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underlying health conditions or are ill or are old, they will likely have to self—isolate for a longer period of time if there is not a vaccine or a way of containing the spread of the virus or if we do not trace where it is in society. but i also think in the meantime people who are living in substandard accommodation, who don't have gardens, people who do not maybe have that much money to survive on and people who have children to look after, this is something that we are all struggling with this in ways but it is really showing some of the inequalities in our society because it isn't really being experienced equally by everyone. cannotjust pick up on that? we don't buy food have the express noble tonight and i presume we will get that later but in your paper how do you cover this issue... noble —— how do you cover in this paper, we saw the police coming to someone pots a garden... how do you talk about the police dialogue occasionally with the public? we just
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