good morning. welcome to breakfast, with charlie stayt and mega munchetty. the headlines today: new guidance for frontline nhs workers. they're told to re—use special protective equipment in extreme circumstances. some hospitals say they're about to run out of special gowns used to treat coronavirus patients, according to nhs leaders in england. the football world pays tribute to norman hunter, the leeds united legend who died yesterday after being diagnosed with coronavirus. good morning. there is a north—south divide with our weather today. the best of the sunshine will certainly

best of the sunshine will certainly be across scotland and northern ireland. some sharp showers through england and wales will slowly fade as we go through the day, but it's going to stay rather cloudy. all the details coming up shortly. # you'll never walk alone... aiming for the top of the charts. captain tom teams up with michael ball as his fundraising effort passes £21 million. it's saturday, april the 18th. our top story: doctors and nurses in england could be asked to re—use personal protective equipment when treating coronavirus patients. public health england has changed its guidance on the use of ppe amid warnings that some hospitals will run out of special gowns this weekend. john mcmanus reports. in this workplace, the machinists are more used to making jackets designed to withstand the british weather.

but now the staff at this barber factory in southfields have turned their hands to personal protective equipment, ppe, vital to repel not rain but the coronavirus. the company says it hopes to make around 23,000 gallons for nhs staff over a three week period. other ma nufa ctu res three week period. other manufactures have joined them. three week period. other manufactures havejoined them. but despite this, supplies of ppe in england, such as fully fluid rappelling downs, will run out sometime this weekend, according to the head of nhs providers, chris hobson. he blames a global shortage, saying that gowns ordered weeks ago we re saying that gowns ordered weeks ago were just saying that gowns ordered weeks ago werejust beginning to saying that gowns ordered weeks ago were just beginning to arrive now. in response, public health england hasissued in response, public health england has issued new guidelines, saying that some ppe can be reused if necessary. until the new supplies arrive. but that has provoked an angry response from health unions. unison has warned some of its members may refuse to work if they feel unsafe, and the bma is also unhappy. i don't think any

healthcare worker should be expected to expose themselves to potential risks to their lives during the course of their work. it is a real disappointment to us and that the government has been unable, even after a month, to address this progressively worsening shortage of ppe. the department of health says staff are working around the clock to solve the problem. even though we have a global situation in which there is less ppe in the world, then there is less ppe in the world, then the world needs, obviously it is going to be a huge pressure point. —— given that we have a global situation. meanwhile, the government says it has no plans to make people wear face masks says it has no plans to make people wearface masks in public, despite lobbying from the mayor of london, sadiq khan. the masks are compulsory in new york, as well as the czech republic and slovakia. but the world health organization says that apart from health workers, masks should only be won by those who display the symptoms of covid—i9 or are caring for somebody who does. well, it will

be the nhs trust and providers who interpret that new guidance and how it works in practice on the wards this weekend. we will be getting their guidance on but a little later on this morning. president donald trump has defended his tweets in which appeared to endorse protesting and stringent lockdown measures in several us states, saying some were too tough. earlier he wrote in a series of tweets "liberate minnesota, liberate michigan" and then "liberate virginia". health officials say that the curbs, including the stay—at—home orders, i needed to halt the spread coronavirus. this year's university graduates will suffer "scarring effects" which could mean they spend years in lower—paid, non—gradute jobs. that's according to the institute for fiscal studies, which says experience of previous recessions shows that starting work during an economic downturn leads to a negative impact. here's our education editor bra nwen jeffreys. 65% of my grade comes from work

placement during coronavirus, so i am worried about my grade. placement during coronavirus, so i am worried about my gradelj placement during coronavirus, so i am worried about my grade. i think my biggest concern about the economic impact of covid—19 is that there is going to be anyjobs. economic impact of covid—19 is that there is going to be anyjobslj won't have the closure of finalising my three years at this university due to the fact that i will not be having a graduation. fearful voices ofa having a graduation. fearful voices of a students degeneration —— a student generation graduating into the chaos of the pandemic. sophie is on student to get a tuition refund. more than 300,000 have signed her petition to mp5. —— wants students to get a tuition refund. strikes by lecturers earlier this year had already disrupted learning. now, instead of lecture halls, universities are online. this campus would normally be buzzing with stu d e nts would normally be buzzing with students on their way to the library, revising for the finals. instead, they are stuck anxiously at home, waiting to do online exams, and worrying about their future. that's why many students are calling

for universities to guarantee that they want to lose out as a result of this virus. liverpool is one of the universities making that promise. stu d e nts universities making that promise. students cannot fall below their average, but the university told me that doesn't mean lower standards. they will not want to graduate feeling that they have had an easier pass through their degree. and that is certainly not the case. today, a warning about new graduates may pay a heavy economic price. they may find it harder to get a job at all. in particular, they are much more likely to end up with a non— graduatejob. likely to end up with a non— graduate job. shona is among the lucky ones. she is about to graduate asa lucky ones. she is about to graduate as a physio. i spent the last four yea rs of as a physio. i spent the last four years of university striving towards the day i can get out and help nhs and help people, and to be honest, there's no better time to be doing that than now. ajob there's no better time to be doing that than now. a job waiting for there's no better time to be doing that than now. ajob waiting for her injusta that than now. ajob waiting for her injust a few that than now. ajob waiting for her in just a few weeks time. captain tom moore has already raised

more than £21 million for the nhs with his sponsored walk, but he's not done yet. he wants to go even further, this time by releasing a charity single. the 99—year—old war veteran has teamed up with the singer michael ball and released a version of you'll never walk alone. # and you'll never walk alone... you get the picture. 99—year—old war vetera n get the picture. 99—year—old war veteran teaming up with singer michael ball, who was giving it his all, i think it is fair to say, releasing a version of you'll never walk alone. if he tops the charts on friday, it would mean that he'd be number one on his 100th birthday. his birthday is in two thursdays, isn't it? the 30th. so if he gets to number one next friday, yes, he would be number one at 100. when he

has just turned would be number one at 100. when he hasjust turned ioo. would be number one at 100. when he hasjust turned 100. brilliant, what a way to celebrate. what a way. time now for a look at the newspapers. let's look at the front pages. "no defence" is the headline on the daily mirror, as it highlights the shortages of protective equipment at hospitals. it describes the health secretary matt hancock as "floundering" after he said he couldn't "magic up" the necessary gear. the daily mail says a team of scientists at oxford university could make a "breakthrough" in the search for a vaccine. it says a clinical trial involving 510 volunteers is due to start next week. an estimate of the number of care home deaths in england shows as many as 7,500 residents have died "as a result" of coronavirus, the daily telegraph reports. the paper says the review by care england is based on data from its own 3,500 care homes. and the times is reporting that some senior tory mps have said the public are being treated "like children" as ministers refuse to discuss options for easing lockdown restrictions. the paper notes scientists are yet

to agree an exit strategy. anything inside the papers? this story is one of those ones, it is obviously linked to coronavirus, it is such a curious thing, isn't it? these are the astronauts who have been on the international space station and they have been up there for nine months and yesterday they came back to earth and obviously, you can see it there, they have come back to a strangely altered earth. welcome to go to space to see something completely different and you can literally back down to earth, the whole phrase, back down to earth, back down to reality, com pletely to earth, back down to reality, completely different. the early hence, they say, of the new world, arrived as they were met by the recovery crew wearing facemasks, rubber gloves, all the protection. —— early hints. look at this line here from one of the astronauts. jessica mia, she says it was a

little bit difficult for us to feel like we are truly going back to a different planet. we are really the only three humans that were not subject to it as it happens. william's of humans are dealing with it in some way, the three of us were not. —— billions. it in some way, the three of us were not. -- billions. a very, very odd thing. ona not. -- billions. a very, very odd thing. on a lighter note, i love these things. we have spoken about how pa rents these things. we have spoken about how parents are dealing with homeschooling, children at home, keeping them occupied. some things don't change. which way am i appointing this? here? thanks, paul. hosking got into his mother's make up hosking got into his mother's make up draw. thank make up all over himself. his motherfilmed him and realised he had gone quiet after six minutes. it is the quiet time that you start to worry. that is the danger sign. she went to look for him, and there you go. first image, i thought it was some kind of cake mix. nope, just mum's lipstick. i think probably all parents around the country can relate to that. think probably all parents around the country can relate to thatm looks lovely. we will have more on

the papers later this morning. it is 6:10am. the government has written to mps explaining why some flights are still arriving into uk airports. each day, around 60 passenger flights land at heathrow. airlines have told the bbc that many are relatively empty and they insist that virtually everyone flying into heathrow now is travelling home. airlines are also converting more passenger aircraft to transport medical supplies and other cargo. our transport correspondent tom burridge reports. most airports are largely standing still. but even now some passenger planes are arriving. one in ten of the flights which normally operates in and out of heathrow are still running. airlines say the vast majority of people on board are simply heading home. nobody at the moment is taking a holiday, so these flights are repatriation flights. we need to bring these people home,

these people are stranded all over these people are stranded all over the world, barcelona, north america, south america, asia. airlines are working with the government right now every single day to get these people home. kiran sandoo was stuck visiting family in india. forflying home this week there were checks at the airport in india. they asked for if we had any symptoms of covid—19, so we just if we had any symptoms of covid—19, so wejust had if we had any symptoms of covid—19, so we just had to circle or technically correct boxes, so, yes or no answers, do you have a cough, do you have a that kind of thing. and then you go inside the airport and then you've got the staff there doing temperature checks. checks like that are not in place at heathrow. it was a bit confusing because you just assume that, you know, if on our board is doing it, the other airport will follow through with the same regulation and process. “— through with the same regulation and process. —— if one airport is doing it. some people would covid—19 do not have a temperature and some show not have a temperature and some show no symptoms at all. so the effectiveness of jacks is questionable. the boss of heathrow

has said airports around the world should now adopt the same standards. american airlines told us there planes now have enough empty seats so that social distancing is always possible. and virgin atlantic revealed many of our commercial flights have only been about a quarter full. but the flights have only been about a quarterfull. but the belly flights have only been about a quarter full. but the belly of most passenger planes is full of cargo. selling at a premium in these extraordinary times. companies running pure cargo flights are working like never before. running pure cargo flights are working like never beforem running pure cargo flights are working like never before. it is really the only choice that there is at the current time, to move anything that is time critical from one region of the world to another. particularly if it is urgent medical equipment or supplies. medical supplies in from china, food in from

kenya. airlines have taken a massive financial hit. so they know that they are now using passenger planes to generate revenue by transporting vital supplies. the current lockdown is challenging in lots of different ways, and yesterday we heard how the duke and duchess of cambridge are encouraging us to look after our mental wellbeing throughout the outbreak. so how has it been affecting young people, and what can they do to take care of themselves? ashley—john baptiste has been finding out. ifind i find myself feeling very depressed. it has made it quite difficult in times of anxiety. depressed. it has made it quite difficult in times of anxietylj difficult in times of anxiety.” start to think that maybe people don't want to talk to me as much. start to think that maybe people don't want to talk to me as muchm is really scary, actually... 23—year—old hannah lives alone in scarborough. she has struggled with her mental health since she was a teenager, but since lockdown, things have taken a turn for the worst. hannah, i know you have post—traumatic stress disorder. how

has it been for you since lockdown? normally i can keep myself so busy and i've got support around me, i can see my friends, i can keep fit and go surfing and, like, so many different things i can do to keep busy. whereas now i havejust got different things i can do to keep busy. whereas now i have just got so much time to sit and think and it is really tough just to kind of be alone with your thoughts. it's not just young people with pre—existing mental health problems who are struggling. 22—year—old daryl fern lives in london and has never worried about his mental well—being until now. covid-19 has had a massive effect on my mental well—being. jim for me was always an escape. it was always that place i would go to as a stress reliever. but now that i actually can't go, i find myself feeling very depressed, it is like i wake up early in the morning, i can't go anywhere, i have to work from home. it's very hard to deal with. since the lockdown, 24—year—old hannah bra nson deal with. since the lockdown, 24—year—old hannah branson has been having hallucinations. when i get

stressed and when i get anxious during lockdown i've been paranoid, i started having auditory hallucinations. hallucinations? yeah, it is when you start to hear things that other people don't quite hear. and, you know, you can'tjust go to your centre to speak to your doctor or nurse because of social distancing. so we have to be able to just pick up the phone, and that is hard. according to a leading charity, there are ways young people can look after themselves. deirdre, how can young people look after their mental health? if you can, stay connected. pick up the phone to yourfamily and stay connected. pick up the phone to your family and friends. feed your passions. connect with others who are passions. connect with others who a re interested passions. connect with others who are interested in the things that you are are interested in the things that you a re interested are interested in the things that you are interested in. it involves in activities that are happening in your house. despite these challenges, people are finding new ways of keeping busy. we found alternative ways to contact each other, whether it is zoom quizzes, but seems to be a weekly thing, lots of different pictures and videos as well.

so, interesting advice. here's louise with a look at this morning's weather. a bit colder but it has been glorious. good morning, louise. good morning. daily exercise help with your mental state of mind at the moment, so all you need is dry weather, and at least it is behaving itself. a bit of rain around at the moment, the best of the weather in terms of dry and sunny weather will be in scotland and northern ireland. sharp showers through the night, some have brought over an inch of rain and they will continue to drift steadily north. a lot of cloud in england and wales, as is the nature of showers, not everyone will get one through the morning and into the afternoon, they will start to weaken. tending to sit across wales and northern england and in the extreme south, the cloud could break up extreme south, the cloud could break up and temperatures around 16. despite cloud in eastern scotland at the moment into the afternoon, plain

sailing, dry and sunny, but a cool easterly breeze will make it feel disappointing on the extreme east coast. clear skies overnight in much of scotland, northern england and northern ireland with quite a lot of cloud elsewhere. a relatively quiet night, largely fine and dry, and those temperatures holding up. minimums of seven to nine in the south—east. on sunday, quite a lot of cloud around. the easterly breeze will drift at the cloud further west and we should start to a little more sunshine. sunday is more straightforward, largely dry nationwide. a bit more cloud always out to the west but temperatures recovering compared to today, 11 to 17. high pressure will stay with us not only for the weekend but into next week as well. always sitting to the north—east, so an easterly flow could always be an issue on exposed east coast, socially. here is our week ahead headline —— so chilly.

and lot of sunshine around, dry, the winds could be a feature but in more shelter away from the easterly wind, warm in places. a lot of dry, sunny weather on monday, and again the easterly breeze will be an issue. sheltered western areas perhaps seeing the best of the sunshine and the feel of the weather. these are mean speeds but you could see in excess of 30 mph on monday, so that could have an impact on the feel of the weather. in shelter, 20 degrees, 68 fahrenheit, not out of the question but 12 to 1a widely on the east coast. i'll have more details in quarter ofan east coast. i'll have more details in quarter of an hour. thanks very much. doctors and nurses could be using ppe again because of supply issues, that's our main story. jonathan

blake is in our london newsroom. the issue around ppe, the supply, delivery, feels like it's really coming toa delivery, feels like it's really coming to a head this weekend. it's been a pressure point for the government through this crisis and from the very start there's been a struggle to source and supply the required amount of gloves, gowns, masks, visors and everything else doctors, nurses and other healthcare workers need and are advised and required to wear to keep themselves while treating coronavirus patients in hospitals, gp surgeries and elsewhere. as you suggest, it feels now with a warning from nhs providers, the body that represents trusts, that supplies are in danger of running out in 28 to 48 hours, and the issue is coming to a head. health secretary man hancock said yesterday he hoped to wave a magic wa nt yesterday he hoped to wave a magic want and that wasn't possible and this is a problem notjust facing

the uk but countries worldwide trying to get enough supply. it's important to suggest the guidance to reuse gowns is only there in case a shortage occurs and that's not standard practice throughout the nhs now, but the fact they've had to do that suggest there are concerns shortages could occur. not the only pressure point on the government, those calls from conservative mps this morning for ministers to be more open and honest about the process by which they will decide when and how to live the lockdown restrictions which have been put in place in. we know they will be there for another three weeks at least one former conservative leader, sir iain duncan smith, saying this morning that the government needs to trust the british public and not treat them like children, so that reflects a concern not only among conservative mps but opposition parties and the public more widely that while everyone accepts these

lockdown restrictions are necessary, no—one wants them to be there on any longer than they need to be. thanks very much. through the programme this morning we will speak to people on the frontline about their concerns about the supply of ppe, there's a very picture. talking to there's a very picture. talking to the nhs nightingale hospital this morning. one of the surgeons who is working there. we'll get a sense of how it playing out in practice. jessica mogg, we spoke to her a few weeks ago, and she was excited about working at the nightingale hospital, so it will be interesting to how much has changed in terms of preparedness for her and her colleagues. at 7:30am we are talking toa gp, colleagues. at 7:30am we are talking to a gp, doctor sarahjarvis, so get your questions in via social media or e—mail us on the programme. former tour de france champion geraint thomas has raised more than £300,000 for the nhs

after riding for 36 hours in three days to mirror the shift pattern typically done by healthcare workers. the twice olympic gold medalist said the biggest thanks went to everybody working for the nhs. sports correspondent ben croucher reports. and somebody else really well—known is getting on their bike to help raise money as well. who else would you want at this point but the former tour de france champion, geraint thomas. oh my goodness, your pedalling already, how is it going? it's all right at the minute, i've only been going ten minutes. that was the start of something epic for geraint thomas, three long but unforgettable days, 12 hours on wednesday, thursday and friday, the same length as many nhs shifts. tiring but worth it. a massive thanks to all of you out there who have donated over the last few days, it made a massive difference stoppages, guys. but thomas isn't just doing this on his own. thanks

to the power of social media and a cycling app, people like you and me canjoin him cycling app, people like you and me can join him virtually, cycling app, people like you and me canjoin him virtually, and you've been doing so in your thousands. in gardens, living rooms and balconies, young and old, individuals and families from around the world have been showing just what pedal power can achieve. it felt crazy because you never really get a chance like this to ride with him. it was really fun and really interesting to ride with somebody like a professional that i wouldn't usually ride with. you really feel like you're actually riding with him. the physical and fundraising effort so far has been amazing, no idea how you've done it. 12 is the next level and to do it on three consecutive days, geraint thomas is a champion, we applaud him. amazing to see the amount of support with people riding with me and all the donations, sure how much the nhs and what everyone working there... what they're doing and everyone getting behind, it's amazing. people like natasha and andrew.

for frontline people like natasha and andrew. forfrontline nhs people like natasha and andrew. for frontline nhs staff, people like natasha and andrew. forfrontline nhs staff, it's important we get all the support we can. it's been difficult sometimes but we're doing ok, we're looking after each other and doing the best we can, and that's the most important. that's what kept thomas going through the gruelling 36 hours, the last two he described as the hardest on his bike. he finished with no fa nfa re on his bike. he finished with no fanfare or ceremony, just a bottle of champagne from his wife and the donations are still pouring in. i'mjust donations are still pouring in. i'm just looking forward to a shower and a bag of peas down below to help out a little bit. incredible. the main thing is raising so much money. a huge thanks to the money and everyone that's donated, the biggest thanks goes to those working for the nhs. it's like the end of the tour de

france with the champagne and the whole thing. lots of people joined in. lou did an hour with him on the bike. you can do it virtually with him. 36 is a lot over three days. anyone who wants to join in and fundraiser... everyone is doing lots of different things, little, doesn't matter. trying to keep fit as well while we are all enjoying or putting up while we are all enjoying or putting up with isolation, perhaps golf isolation. we've been following quite a few of you on breakfast with your keep fit escapades. but the queen of the home workout is diana moran, better known as the green goddess. here she is with another routine. good morning, everybody. well, here we are at the end of yet another week. you will need calls. heavyweights... no, not heavyweights, hand weights, maybe a can of beer, maybe a can of sugar if you haven't got bottles like this and we're going to work on our arms

to strengthen them. first of all, literally work the biceps. that's it, to the chest. you don't straighten the arms. good. that's excellent. working the biceps. and now chuck your elbows in and we're going to work the triceps. that's that front top muscle. good. a few more of all of those. about ten of each of these is going to do the most good. excellent. now, i'm going to stand with a side to show you this one. i want you to take your upper arm back and then twisting only the bottom part of yuan. where working the triceps. and once again, do about ten of those. of course you

could sit or stand to do most of those exercises. put the bottles down and finally let's stretch out our arm down and finally let's stretch out ourarm and oursides down and finally let's stretch out our arm and our sides as well. breathe in and then as you breathe out, stretch. and over you go. my favourite stretch is this one. and if you want any more information on these exercises, take a look the website getreadyforanyage.com annual find them there. keep fit and carry on. headlines are coming up, we'll see you shortly.

hello, this is breakfast with charlie stayt and naga munchetty. good morning. here's a summary of today's main stories from bbc news. doctors and nurses in england could be asked to treat coronavirus patients without fully protective gowns and to reuse equipment.

public health england has changed its guidance on the use of protective clothing amid warnings that some hospitals will run out of long—sleeved gowns in one or two days. the advice was condemned by the british medical association and the royal college of nursing, but the health minister matt hancock has blamed a global shortage of kit. president donald trump has defended his tweets in which he appeared to endorse protests against stringent lockdown measures in several us states, saying some were "too tough". earlier, he wrote in a series of tweets: "liberate minnesota," "liberate michigan," and then "liberate virginia." officials say the curbs, including the stay—at—home orders, are needed to halt the spread of coronavirus. this year's university graduates will suffer "scarring effects" which could mean they spend years in lower paid, non—gradutejobs. that's according to the institute for fiscal studies, which says experience of previous recessions shows that starting work during an economic downturn leads

to a negative impact. those are the main stories. we need to talk about sport, and some sad news coming from the world of sport. the football world continues to pay tribute to the leeds united legend norman hunter, who died yesterday at the age of 76, after spending a week in hospital with coronavirus. hunter made more than 700 appearances for leeds over a 14—year period. he was also part of england's 1966 world cup winning squad. as a tough—tackling defender he earned the nickname ‘bites yer legs,‘ but his former leeds teammate eddie gray feels he was underrated as a player. people don't realise, you know, because of the norman bite your legs that you know, he quite liked it, actually, i think.

that you know, he quite liked it, actually, ithink. i that you know, he quite liked it, actually, i think. i think it took away from his ability, his actual ability as a player, a great defender, great footballer. look at norman's record for leeds united, and look at him playing for england, he never got as many caps as probably as he deserved because of the great bobby moore. but he was as good as any defender who played the game. premier league clubs say they're committed to finishing the remainder of the season, but there was no confirmation of when matches will resume, after representatives from the teams met by video conference yesterday. they were expected to talk about a deadline of the 30th ofjune for play to resume. the premier league said it "remains our objective" to complete all of the remaining 92 matches, but currently "all dates are tentative." meanwhile, arsenal's players are likely to become the first in the premier league to agree to a pay cut.

the squad will take a 12.5% wage reduction, but will be reimbursed if they qualify for next season's champions league or the 2021—22 competition. arsenal were in ninth place in the premier league when the season was stopped because of the coronavirus. there is some live sport going on in britain, just not as we know it. professional darts corporation has come up with the novel idea of broadcasting matches from players' homes. this is pdc world champion peter wright playing against peterjacques from his bedroom in yorkshire. every player with a tour card can take part across 32 consecutive nights. doesn't quite have the atmosphere of the alexandra palace. a lot of us have been keeping in contact with friends during lockdown, former world number one andy murray has been chatting to his mate — current world number one, novak djokovic — about who is the all time best tennis player.

rafa's record on clay, nobody com petes rafa's record on clay, nobody competes with. roger's current record at wimbledon is the best. and your record on hard courts is the best. so when people ask me, like, what's your toughest much that you would play in your career, who are the hardest guys to play against, i would be, like, well... ifeel like i'm competing against the best hardcourt player ever, i have competed against the best clay court player ever and the best grass court player ever and the best grass court player ever. so for me, currently, right now, it depends on the surface. i bet djokovic said it was him. snooker‘s world championships should have been getting underway at the crucible theatre in sheffield this morning, but, of course, it's now been postponed and it's yet to be rescheduled. the financial implications of not playing can really affect some of the lower ranked players on the circuit, and 2010 world champion neil robertson has offered to help out. the world championship holds a lot of importance for those players.

that first round in a qualifying can kind of help them get through the summerand kind of help them get through the summer and get ready for the next season. if anyone needed my help or anything like that then i would be willing to do that. i would certainly be willing to recover their first—round appearance feel something like that to help get through these first couple of months, until we can actually play. and finally, we're all trying to find ways to occupy our time during the coronavirus lockdown, and sports stars are no different. rangers manager steven gerrard has decided to give his son some extra coaching, while he's been spending more time at home. and he hasn't been holding back. the former liverpool captain flying into some of these tackles! he's certainly not easing him into the game. that is against his almost three—year—old. norman hunter might have been proud of that. you've got to start them young. very sad news about norman hunter, but looking at stephen gerard bauer, that is at least a yellow card, isn't it?” don't know, comedy three—year—old

went in with two feet, so... 50—50, let's say. i like you all the more for putting it against the three—year—old rather than the adult. i like you all the more. thank you very much. 6:35am is the time right now. time now for a look at a coronavirus news special, presented by victoria derbyshire. hello, and welcome to the special programme. i'm victoria derbyshire. for the next half—an—hour we will bring you further information and advice about the coronavirus pandemic. coming up, you might have seen the video from 2015 which is microsoft founder bill gates talking about the possible impact a global pandemic could have on the planet. we will hear his thoughts now about this covid—19 outbreak. and a reminder that you can always keep

up—to—date with the latest on the pandemic in your country and around pandemic in your country and around the world on our website. but first, charities and the uk are wanting that almost a quarter of the youth clu bs that almost a quarter of the youth clubs that have been closed in the lockdown may not reopen after the restrictions are lifted. it leaves thousands of youngsters with nowhere to socialise. anna adams has been talking to teenagers and youth workers to see how they are doing. normally you would have 30 to 50 young people here after school or in the holidays. mervyn kay is showing me around this youth club in lewisham, south london. it has been closed since the lockdown. in what ways are you having to change the ways are you having to change the way you work? trying to meet the people where they are, so we are using tick—tock, we are using instagram. we are basically trying to recreate the youth club and adventure playground experience as best we can in a virtual environment. hello! nicola is a youth worker. she is chatting online with kids who would normally be here. how do you think you will feel

if you are not able to come here for three months? inaudible. well, this clu b three months? inaudible. well, this club is confident it will survive the difficult months ahead, but others across the country are worried about the knock—on effect of coronavirus and the lockdown, and what that will do to young people who have come to rely on places like this. the national body for youth workers says it is already getting reports of some young people feeling suicidal and self harming. we are seeing an awful lot of services closed and not being able to reopen and provide a vital support, there are a million young people with it needs that are just not being supported today. charities say more than 20% of youth services will not survive this crisis. we covered all those areas yesterday, today... youth workers in north london out looking for some of the teenagers they have lost contact with. for now, the kids are off the streets, but can it stay that way? it is those young people who have been

perhaps involved in criminal activity or, you know, excluded from school, i would activity or, you know, excluded from school, iwould be activity or, you know, excluded from school, i would be worried about that. because those young people are not on the social media platforms that many of the other young people are. in suburban st albans, these houses are full of young people trying to get themselves busy. so what are you missing the most? my girlfriend. that has been the ha rd est pa rt girlfriend. that has been the hardest part sofa. i have missed a lot. i don't know that i would be able to cope with three months. having to stay inside. why? i am not being able to see my friends, being able to see my family. it'sjust... lonely. if i were to know how long it would last for, that would be better, mentally, but it is the fact that we don't know, so it is kind of like waiting every day. and that uncertainty is the hardest thing for these teenagers. no—one knows how long this lockdown will last. nationwide lockdown measures in the uk, which has been in place now for

more than three weeks, are presenting loads of challenges. in all sorts of circumstances. it has been really difficult, though, for those who have recently left the ca re system. often those who have recently left the care system. often estranged from relatives, and without support networks. ashleyjohn baptiste has more. it is very empty, very deserted. haven't seen anyone for a couple of days. and i'm back up to my room... daily life for diana, a 20—year—old care lever estranged from her parents and stuck in student accommodation. so most people have been picked up by their pa rents. people have been picked up by their parents. i am pretty much stuck here now. i am finding things quite challenging at the moment. since the covid—19 lockdown, challenging at the moment. since the covid—19lockdown, a challenging at the moment. since the covid—19 lockdown, a lot of students have gone home. and i am still living in halls. that is because i don't have a home to go back to. and the whole of campus is shut and it does feel quite isolating. as

someone who grew up does feel quite isolating. as someone who grew up in care, i am aware of the unique challenges that ca re aware of the unique challenges that care leaders face, surrender uk went into lockdown, i wanted to find out how they were coping. this bedsit is where 20—year—old casey lives. struggling to avoid food, she relies on universal credit. you can see my kitchen that is over there. but tiny bit there. and in that i have a tiny little bathroom. so that is your holding space? yes, that is my living room, my bedroom. a lot of ca re leavers living room, my bedroom. a lot of ca re leave rs a re living room, my bedroom. a lot of care leavers are estranged from theirfamily. care leavers are estranged from their family. that is care leavers are estranged from theirfamily. that is people's main point of support, their main point of co nta ct. point of support, their main point of contact. i am self isolating but i have no—one to help with that, no—one can go do my shopping, no—one can help me if i get ill. you are so alone in it, basically. there is not really a ny alone in it, basically. there is not really any support there at all. according to recent figures, almost half of all care lever struggle with their mental health in normal times, and one in four will have a mental health crisis. experts predict that

these figures will get worse. 17—year—old freya lives in supported accommodation. she has added particularly tough. so a couple of days after the government announced the lockdown, my local authority moved me from one supported lodging to another. with two hours notice. which is obviously a really strange situation to be in. so i've been working the weekend before that with the public, so i could have had the virus, and not known, and then i'm moving into a house with total strangers who i've met, like, wants. a leading charity is calling on councils to do more. we know that councils to do more. we know that councils are under real pressure at the moment. we would like to see all councils making a real effort to reach out to care leaders, we would like to see emergency funding from government to help them with that important works, and also to make emergency cash available for those ca re emergency cash available for those care leaders who are struggling. according to the local government association, councils are working ha rd to association, councils are working hard to make sure that care leaders get the support they need. as tough as things are, these care leavers,

like so many others across the nation, our remaining resilient. like so many others across the nation, our remaining resilientm feels like everything bad that could go wrong is going wrong at the minute, but i've just got to keep moving on with it, i suppose. we hear a lot about key workers, those people whose work is essential to keep a country running, usually nurses, police officers, but truck drivers say they, too, should be seen as providing a key service. the bbc‘s matt wareham has been speaking to some truckers to find out where they believe they are not being given the credit they think they deserve. without trucks, this country would stop. i'm jensen, i'm 22, i've been driving a truck for four years. it is nice to be free on the road, but it gets lonely. we are delivering a service to everyone, i can't get services, i can't get any food sometimes. some substations

don't let you use the toilet or the shower. but as if i am using this service for the night and i have to pay for it. that's not fair, in my opinion. starting the day with a cup of tea, as british as you can get. there is absolutely nowhere to get any hot food for those drivers that don't have microwaves. absolute ghost town. it is very unhygienic. you do what is called the scotty wash, where you somewhat wipes. you go out every day and may not come home until the end of the week. lot of people don't realise it can ta ke lot of people don't realise it can take its toll. so here we have another garage that won't let us use the toilets or be able to get a hot drink. this isjust my life on a daily basis. i am satin trucks at the moment. i am currently sat in my cab because the services are not

around. they are shot. no difference what we do day in, day out every day of the year, but normally day in and day out every day of the year we have services, we are able to get a cup of tea or coffee, we have problem getting a shower. we can't get microwave meals, we had to get them on a sunday, which was quite difficult because shops were closed. parking up for the night. tonight i've got a pizza i can literally shove in my microwave. although it's not the best meal, not nutritional, it will still fill me up nutritional, it will still fill me up at the north the day. i was on facetimed whom i made kye the other night, i was on the phone to him while we were having dinner and it was nice to talk to him, i obviously a lwa ys was nice to talk to him, i obviously always listen to the radio when i can geta always listen to the radio when i can get a signal. nice to have someone to talk to because it gets

very lonely, i must admit stop in my pre— made meal. very lonely, i must admit stop in my pre- made meal. we have a choice of bolognese, bolognese and some more bolognese. i'm quite lucky in the fa ct bolognese. i'm quite lucky in the fact i have a microwave here. time to get ready for bed. because of the covid—19 situation, the government have relaxed our driving hours and that can take quite a strain because asa that can take quite a strain because as a driver, i'm one of the lowest paid careers out there. now i'm in bed, this is the only time to relax. takes its toll on your mental health a bit. morning, guys. microwave on boiling hot water for the coffee just there and then i can go and brush my teeth and get ready for the day. i'm out here working on the frontline in contact with people still. i'm still getting paid the same as! still. i'm still getting paid the same as i would on a normal day. we

don't get any extra pay because it's hazardous at work or anything, so it doesn't seem fair our facilities are being cut, money is staying the same, we are working extra hours. at the end of the day all trying to get by. treat drivers with respect. we are delivering a service to everyone, we're delivering products, i'm delivering mainly bulk haulage. all of this helps you. without trucks, this country would stop. the question of how close we are to a vaccine for coronavirus is being asked on a daily basis and scientists globally find a way to treat covid—19. five years ago microsoft founder bill gates warned about a global pandemic but he said he was subsequently ignored. he is now priced to help fund factories testing for vaccines. he spoke to the bbc‘s charlie stayt and he started by explaining why he

believed there needs to be a global response to this outbreak. that tools that are going to reduce deaths, the drugs, that's a global thing to get those out, and the thing to get those out, and the thing that will get us back to the world that we had before coronavirus is the vaccine and getting that out to all 7 billion people. the efforts to all 7 billion people. the efforts to test those, to build the factories, to understand, you know, is it safe and ready to go, that's a global problem and, you know, so i'm glad people are coming together to find where is the best work and combine that. the factory will be in a different country than the science is in. this is the whole world working on probably the most urgent tool that's ever been needed. cani tool that's ever been needed. can i ask you, in relation to the vaccine, i know donated a sum of money in relation to that, just talk me through what you think are the

key elements around developing a successful vaccine. is it money, is it political will? what do you think are the key elements to that? we definitely need to fund the research and the manufacturing and the distribution. the distribution piece for developing companies will be where the uk has always been super generous. the research will need to fund the ten most promising constructs, because we won't know in advance which one will be proving to be safe and effective. being effective for older people, whose immune system is weak, is a huge challenge. if you really amp up vaccine to do that, then you can run into safety issues. we're going to have to take something that normally ta kes have to take something that normally takes five to six years and get it donein takes five to six years and get it done in 18 months. there is an approach called an error in and may vaccine that several have that looks

quite promising but we can't count on that, so we'll back four of five of those and for all five companies using a more conventional approach, and unfortunately the schedule for that probably wouldn't be as quick. we've been funding directly through cepi over the last decade. you will be aware a lot of people in the uk are asking a simple and straightforward question — when will there be a vaccine? how do you see that? it's a perfect question because we want to get back to the life we had before coronavirus. people are seeing the economic destruction, the psychological stress. this is such an unprecedented very tough thing to deal with. people like myself and tony found she are saying 18 months.

if everything went perfectly, we could do slightly better than that, but there will be a trade—off. will have less safety testing than we typically would have so governments will have to decide whether they indemnify the companies and say let's go out with this when we just don't have the time to do what we normally do. 18 months is about what we would expect. doing everything we can. wheelwright checks for those factories faster than government can and they'll come along. it definitely shouldn't be money ltd, it should be all the best constructs, full speed ahead, science ltd. it seems there may seem to be some compromise in the safety measures that would normally be expected to create a vaccine because time is so crucial? well, of course, if you want to wait and see if a side effect shows up two years

later, that takes two years. whenever you're acting quickly, like during the hiv crisis, they created a quick way of getting drug approval. there is a trade—off there. in that case it worked super, super well and here i think we will be able to get some safety indications, but this is a public good. those trade—offs, the governments working on a cooperative basis will be involved in the decision to say, "the regulator says go ahead," even though you haven't taken the normal time period. go ahead," even though you haven't taken the normaltime period. do you think world leaders now are listening in a way they didn't out of necessity, bearing in mind, and i know reference to the four, in 2015 you gave one of those ted talks and if people go back and listen to it now, it was extraordinarily close to what is happening now. you were talking about the real risk of a

pandemic across the world. did you feel like you were listened to then? no. the investments that could have been done so that diagnostics would have been essentially immediately available, drugs in less than half the time, the vaccine in less than half the time, most of those investments were not made. cepi is the exception to that, but that's about 5% of what could have been done. now we're scrambling and it's taking us much longer to get these pieces together even though scientists are doing heroic work. unlike the defence budget that prepares asked for wars where we simulate the problem and make sure we're good at it, this risk, which i viewed as even greater than the risk of war, there was very, very little preparation. very few of these germ games where you try out and say, "0k, games where you try out and say, "ok, how do you build up the icu capacity? can you make them to? how

do you prioritise the diagnostics?" that we're figuring out as we go. do you think that was partly a financial decision, it wasn't deemed worth investing that money in other people didn't see as clearly as you? it's got to be governments because there is no private—sector incentive for something that's uncertain like this, and even when it happens, you know, you have to charge mostly a brea keven know, you have to charge mostly a breakeven price for things that are helping out with a global crisis like this. so people still saw war as something to fund. in the less than 10% of that that would have been needed for this, you know, people just didn't organise the government to have that function. i do think now, because this has been so dramatic, you know, we weren't ready for this pandemic but i do think we will be ready for the next

pandemic. using the new tools of science, that's very, very doable. are you optimistic that now, and obviously we need to get out of the immediate situation, but there will bea immediate situation, but there will be a different mindset around the fears around viruses and pandemics? yeah, your speed of reaction is so crucial here, because it grows exponentially. if you're there to months earlier, which some countries jumped on this faster than others, you know, they really were checking to if there was community spread, they got the diagnostics capacity up whitley, but we should be able to have diagnostics within a month, we should be able to have therapeutics in warm like seven months and the vaccine in more than a year if we're on standby with the right factories and the right science, and we have rehearsed all the shortages, with

working together, and so a really good system for seeing this early and making sure wejump on it before the curve gets to a meaningful part of the population, that is achievable. i know reflected for a moment on this earlier on in the interview and its inevitable that here in the uk we ask our politicians questions about the way they reacted and to a degree it's inevitable that thought process will be something that happens in the future, that we look back on. can you talk us through what you see from what's happened so far?l you talk us through what you see from what's happened so far? a big missing piece is funding the research for these type of vaccines, you know, actually ourfoundation is the biggest funder of vaccines for infectious disease. there could have been more. cepi is the one thing that happened there. now the next

phaseis that happened there. now the next phase is once we get the cases way down how much can we open up? now there is an opportunity for governments to see what others are doing to see which ones do run into a rebound of the disease, and really share these deep understandings, like, our young people of the infection chain? so i do think we will deal with this opening up phase ina more will deal with this opening up phase in a more collaborative, data driven way than the first scramble where, sadly, many governments were slow to react. it's been shown that nature can have a really positive impact on mental welfare. according to agrarian scientific studies. now signed charities are finding ways of helping vulnerable people connect with nature while stuck indoors. the bbc's environment correspondent has

this. if we just close our eyes and take in the shallow breaths. imagine we're walking at the ed they field. this is a visualisation, a virtual walk in the countryside guided by a mental health charity volunteer. there's so many different plants and bushes and trees that come together. being out in nature can have a powerful impact. and it became kind ofa powerful impact. and it became kind of a lifeline really. i felt like there was something i could do and there was something i could do and there was something valuable and beautiful to notice when i didn't feel there was anything. there are many scientific studies that show the health benefits of being in the natural world. that show the health benefits of being in the naturalworld. so that show the health benefits of being in the natural world. so when you're outside, our blood pressure comes down. heart rate variability goes up, and that's a good thing. our heart rate comes down and our cortisone levels are reduced, and

these are all indicators of reductions in stress. so how to get this on lockdown? i know some of us don't have gardens... ironically the therapy now involves embracing screen time. live online they share fragments of the natural world they can see from their balconies or gardens. my gardens. my family gardens. myfamily and gardens. my family and i have been in self—isolation for almost two weeks because i've got a nasty cough and it is tough, but we're lucky enough to have a garden. what about people who don't? i've dealt with depression and anxiety. i work with the nhs in east london and we started to the reality of that. day by day starting calling in saying they couldn't make it. viv is a nature lover. to cope, she'd normally go to the countryside but now even the local parks are packed. what else am i supposed to do to try to pick myself up? ijust feel like there's no point in trying. but,

people like emily are trying to help by giving us an intimate glimpse of the private lives of some of our most loved animals. the wildlife trusts have set up around 20 webcams across the country. nationally we've seen 275% increase in the number of visitors who are watching it compared to last year. huge people are tuning in and it's so important now people are getting that connection with nature, so they're doing it through digital platforms and on online wildlife webcams. doing it through digital platforms and on online wildlife webcamsm may be some comfort to look and see that as human society struggles to cope with the virus, the national, natural world carries on uninterrupted. you can keep up—to—date with the latest advice on our website and you can get in touch with me on twitter 24/7 at vic derbyshire. thanks for watching.

good morning. welcome to breakfast with charlie stayt and naga munchetty. our headlines today: new guidance for frontline nhs workers — they're told to re—use special protective equipment in extreme circumstances. some hospitals say they're about to run out of special gowns used to treat coronavirus patients, according to nhs leaders in england. the football world pays tribute to norman hunter, the leeds united legend who died yesterday after being diagnosed with coronavirus. good morning. there is a north—south divide it with our weather today. the best of the sunshine will certainly be across scotland and northern ireland. some sharp showers through england and wales will slowly fa d e through england and wales will slowly fade as we go through the day, but it is going to stay rather cloudy. all the details coming up shortly. # you'll never walk alone... aiming for the top of the charts.

captain tom teams up with michael ball as his fundraising effort passes £21 million. it's saturday, april the 18th. our top story this morning: doctors and nurses in england could be asked to re—use personal protective equipment when treating coronavirus patients. public health england has changed its guidance on the use of ppe amid warnings that some hospitals will run out of special gowns this weekend. we'll be talking to one of the representatives of trusts across england, and we'll also be putting your coronavirus questions to a gp in about 20 minutes. first this report from john mcmanus. in this workplace, the machinists are more used to making jackets designed to withstand the british weather. but now the staff at this barbour factory in south shields have turned their hands to personal

protective equipment, ppe, vital to repel not rain but the coronavirus. the company says it hopes to make around 23,000 gowns for nhs staff over a three week period. other manufacturers havejoined them. but despite this, supplies of ppe in england, such as fully fluid—repelling gowns, will run out sometime this weekend, according to the head of nhs providers, chris hobson. he blames a global shortage, saying that gowns ordered weeks ago were just beginning to arrive now. in response, public health england has issued new guidelines, saying that some ppe can be reused if necessary. until the new supplies arrive. but that has provoked an angry response from health unions. unison has warned some of its members may refuse to work if they feel unsafe, and the bma is also unhappy. i don't think any healthcare worker should be expected to expose themselves to potential risks to their lives during the course of their work.

it is a real disappointment to us and that the government has been unable, even after a month, to address this progressively worsening shortage of ppe. the department of health says staff are working around the clock to solve the problem. given we have a global situation in which there is less ppe in the world than the world needs, obviously it is going to be a huge pressure point. meanwhile, the government says it has no plans to make people wear face masks in public, despite lobbying from the mayor of london, sadiq khan. the masks are compulsory in new york, as well as the czech republic and slovakia. but the world health organization says that apart from health workers, masks should only be won by those who display the symptoms of covid—19 or are caring for somebody who does. let's get the latest from our political correspondent jonathan blake now.

matt hancock says he cannot magic it up. but the pressure is building on government to be held to account about these things? it is, and this has been an issue for the government at the start, as matt hancock said in frustration to mps yesterday, he wishes he had a magic wand to solve the supply issue of personal protective equipment, but as he sat as well, the uk is not the only country. this is a global problem, nations around the world are trying to source and supply enough protective equipment for those working in hospitals to treat coronavirus patients. i think the warning from nhs trusts that supplies are in danger of running out in less than 48 hours is a sign of just how tight the supply out in less than 48 hours is a sign ofjust how tight the supply chain is. and the problem of ppe is one of the government's criteria that it has set out that needs to be solved before any talk of lifting the lockdown that is in place to slow

the spread of coronavirus, along with falling debt and infection rates, and that is another area where the government is facing pressure this morning, adding two calls from labour and others to be more open about the decision making progress that process, as to when and how the restrictions on our daily lives might be lifted, conservative mps now adding their voices to these calls, so iain duncan smith, former tory leader, among them, saying that the government needs to treat the british public and trust them, rather than treating them like children. so when parliament comes back next week, i think the pressure on the government to give more details about when the uk might be able to get back to something like normal life will only grow, because as everyone understands, the restrictions need to be there, but nobody wants to see them in place for longer than they absolutely have to be. jonathan, thank you. we'll be talking about that new guidance on gowns with the group that represents nhs trusts in about half an hour. the german health minister says

the month—long lockdown there has brought the coronavirus outbreak under control. fewer than 4,000 people have died of the disease in germany. damien mcguinness is in berlin. damien, how long before they get back to business as usual? good morning. it is obviously clear that the outbreak in germany has had a very different trajectory that uk politicians and medics have looked at very closely. what is the situation now? these are incredibly positive words now from the health minister, under control, usually german ministers are not really as optimistic as that because they have been very cautious, even though the numbers have been good for a while so far. they have been very cautious for a while so far, but they really feel they are starting to turn a curve. what is now the case is that the infection rate from one person to another person is 0.7. what that means is that less than one person is being affected by everybody else

infected. so that is very positive, but was a key aim of the government even just but was a key aim of the government evenjust a but was a key aim of the government even just a few days ago, but was not something that was happening here in germany. now what is happening is that on monday, according to the new regulations, some of the restrictions are being loosened. we will see some school pupils going back to school, some people are even sitting exams on monday, quite a brutal start for some schoolchildren, but at the same time, there is the worry that if you start listening these restrictions, then we're going to have another outbreak, which is why ministers also saying that social contact should still be kept at a minimum. the message is still very clear, right over the summer, keep social contacts right over the summer, keep social co nta cts to right over the summer, keep social contacts to a minimum, but with the hope that the businesses that i needed to get germany's economy going should also be able to reopen, really to get the economy kickstarted again. president donald trump has defended his tweets in which he appeared to endorse protests against stringent lockdown measures in several us states, saying some were "too tough". earlier, he wrote in a series of tweets: "liberate minnesota,"

"liberate michigan," and then "liberate virginia." officials say the curbs, including the stay—at—home orders, are needed to halt the spread of coronavirus. on yesterday's programme we reported that a boss of an nhs trust had contacted the bbc with concerns about the provision of gowns for staff. he had asked the bbc for the phone numbers of burberry and barbour because he was concerned about supply shortages. we should clarify that the person concerned is not the boss of a trust, but is part of a network of organisations helping to source personal protective equipment for some nhs trusts. the outbreak is expected to have a significant impact on the uk economy, and new research has found this year's university graduates could spend years in lower paid, non—graduatejobs, as a result. the institute for fiscal studies says experience of previous recessions shows that starting work during an economic downturn often leads to a negative impact for graduates.

it has been a very special week or so, hasn't it, following captain tom moore. good friday was when it began, when we first spoke to him, and that extraordinary challenge he set himself to raise money. yes, he wa nted set himself to raise money. yes, he wanted to raise £1000 by walking 100 la ps wanted to raise £1000 by walking 100 laps in his garden. he has now raised more than £21 million for the nhs. he isn't done yet. he wants to go even further this time by releasing a charity single. # and you'll never walk alone... the beauty of this, of course, is that as tom told us at the time, michael ball is his favourite singer. so the opportunity of

teaming up and doing better song with the big, big voice of michael ball blasting out you'll never walk alone. if he tops the charts on friday, it would mean that he'd be number one on his 100th birthday. yes, because his birthday is april the 30th, which is the thursday after next, so if next friday he is number one, it will last for a week. so his birthday just lies number one, it will last for a week. so his birthdayjust lies in that week. which is quite something. it would be, wouldn't it? well done, captain tom. louise will have the weather for us later in the programme. the temporary hospital at the excel centre in london tookjust nine days to set up, and patients have been receiving treatment there for nearly two weeks. so what is it like inside the nightingale? when it first opened, we spoke to one of the volunteer doctorsjessica mok, about the challenge ahead. shejoins us now from london, ahead of her shift today.

good morning, jessica. lovely to see you again. where exactly are you now? at home? yeah, i am at home. i live very close to be excel centre. so you are going on shift today, is that correct? yes, eight o'clock. last time we spoke to you, jessica, i spoke to you and you are really excited about being called to work there and seeing what was going on. what is it like there? it is incredible. i feel a real what is it like there? it is incredible. ifeel a real privilege to be able to contribute to such a large programme, and something so special. firstly, ithink large programme, and something so special. firstly, i think when you go and you are struck byjust how enormous the hospital is, and the organisation that must have gone on to make it happen. as you walk inside there are so many people, all in personal protective equipment, so it is quite daunting, in some ways,

as you walk in. but the patients are really, really sick, and that is the big challenge, it requires so much skill, so many people, really working in a big team to get these patients better. the patients deteriorate really rapidly. they can monitor be doing really well and the next minute, really unwell again. so thatis next minute, really unwell again. so that is quite scary for everybody andi that is quite scary for everybody and i think that is why it needs all that organisation and back up, to run this hospital. but what i really loved about the work is that i have met so many incredible people who are from such a diverse background, and as! are from such a diverse background, and as i started i was a bit apprehensive, because i am a surgeon by background, not a critical care doctor. but when i got there i realised the skill sets were so

next. there were eye doctors, urologists, all kinds of people who we re urologists, all kinds of people who were there up skilling and relearning and trying to look after people with covid—19. and not only are the doctors, there are nurses, dentists, dentists who had been one for 20 years and there she was doing a nightshift as a nursing role. those kinds of things, meeting all those incredible people, hasjust been heartwarming and it is incredible. jessica, this nightingale that you are at is the first of the government's emergency field hospitals, and you havejust said that you have got all the correct personal protective equipment there. is that the case, that you have no concerns about ppe supply where you are? no, well, i am not really involved in the organisational aspects of it, but from what i have seen so far, we have not had a problem in terms of access to those. we are not really

allowed to go into the hospital without sufficient ppe.” allowed to go into the hospital without sufficient ppe. i mean, the reason we are talking about this, and we will be talking to someone from the nhs translator, is that the new guidance with doctors and nurses in england being told they may have to work without full length gowns and treat patients with coronavirus. for example, if you are asked to do that, how would you feel? it's difficult it is quite a high risk situation where we are in the nightingale, it is all patients who are ventilated. having sufficient ppe i think is really important. i guess it depends on what we're actually being asked to wear, so it's hard to say without seeing what exactly we've got, but i do the organisation to look after us and they have done very well, all aspects. let's talk about why this is so important because your shift pattern, 12 to 13 hours, is that correct? how does a shift lock and pan out for you? it's really hard

actually, it's quite challenging because it's really hard being in the ppe all day and as you enter the hospital, you are already in ppe so you can't easily go out and go to the bathroom or get a drink, so you're in ppe for a set out of time, normally four hours, and then you have your scheduled break but when you're on your break you try not to drink too much water, enough to keep you going but not so much you have to run to the bathroom. we are all used to that length of time in terms of that time working as doctors working. we normally do 12, 13 hour shift. that's not really an issue, but the big thing is being in ppe and everyone looking the same, you can't identify people, and you can't really relax and have a tea or anything. may i suggest you try to get as much downtime as you can before your shift today. jessica

mok, thank you for the work you're doing and good luck. thank you. everyone needs to relax and have a tea sometimes. we all need that. small things you start appreciating. have a tea. here's louise with a look at this morning's weather. with u2 on the sofa i haven't had a chance to have a tea yet! there's no—onein chance to have a tea yet! there's no—one in the building, although it feels like that! good morning. when i open my curtains in the morning i had a lovely garden and a syca m o re morning i had a lovely garden and a sycamore tree that i can look at but i'm veryjealous of this view, absolutely beautiful. so much so because it's been rather cloudy a lot of the time this week to the north—west of the great glen. different in sunny. gardeners and growers probably very happy about this, some in southern england have seen over an inch through the night, and that will be a nuisance. very

erratic, some places not saying much at all, others have seen how financially you over an inch, but pushing its way into the midlands and central wales. may be a few isolated showers into southern northern ireland but generally speaking today, in the far north of england, scotland and northern ireland, early—morning cloud in the east coast that will melt away and sunshine through the day. plenty of sunshine through the day. plenty of sunshine here. that easterly breeze making it feel rather cool and if you keep the rate, disappointing. if we keep the cloud breaking up and sunshine coming through, 16 or 17. the rain will fizzle away this evening but a bit of cloud remaining, acting like a blanket so not a cold night. temperatures holding up as you can see clearly, perhaps a few low single figures in rural areas of scotland under the clear skies. that's where we will see the sunshine pretty much from the word go again tomorrow. some

cloud around first thing by the easterly breeze hopefully pushing the cloud back to the west, so sheltered eastern areas seeing the best of the sunshine but with the easterly breeze, still not particularly warm. highest values on sunday 11 to 17. high pressure will stay with us through next week, setting up to the far north—east, meaning we will always keep winds from the north sea. never a particularly warm sauce, especially at this time of year, so dry this week, and the wind is a feature, making it feel cool at times and with a bit of shelter, pleasantly warm. on monday, dry. lots of sunshine again across the country and a quiet picture. that easterly wind again that could be gusting in excess of 30 mph mean temperatures here on the east coast will be cool. a bit of shelter and we could see temperatures rising to 20 degrees on monday. back to you to.

i'm sure you can grab a tea. i'm going now. it's on my list! it's time now to put some of your coronavirus questions toa gp. joining us today is dr sarahjarvis. good morning. have you had a tea yet? i have. good, so you are well said. good to you this morning. firstly, a bit of clarification, the guidance, the new guidance from public health england in relation to gowns and protective equipment. they issue these guidelines and that is to the hospital trusts, are the hospital trusts free to either adopted, ignore it or are they obliged to pass it through to the clinicians who then equally are they free to say, "i'm going to abide by that or i'll make my own decisions". where does it set? the answer it is

very difficult, it would be difficult for clinicians to refuse it, but they could say they're not going to wear gowns that have already been worn. having said that we know the virus can be killed by washing at 60 degrees at least, and therefore theoretically these gowns could be re— re— worn in terms of the virus, they wouldn't be contaminated anymore, but the question is whether the gowns' protection effect would be damaged. although it's not ideal, government wouldn't recommend it if they hadn't looked at it and said this is going to bea looked at it and said this is going to be a great deal better than nothing and there's no question this isn't good enough. unfortunately we are ina isn't good enough. unfortunately we are in a position where we are in a bidding war with the rest of the world, and everybody is trying to stock up on ppe whether they have large numbers of cables of the virus yet or not. as we've seen in countries like italy or spain, one country can move and dominate quickly after another so all

countries are scrambling desperately to stock up on ppe and there's not a lot out there. i know you're happy to do all these questions for us, so vishnu has got in touch, lots of people have said this anecdotally, how can we differentiate between hayfever, pollen and allergy related respiratory symptoms and covid—19 infection? a great question, because while the majority who have hayfever are alleging to grass pollen, and they won't be struggling to much yet, lots of people are allergic to tree pollen and their symptoms will start in the middle of may... much, rather, and go onto the middle of may, overlapping with hayfever symptoms. loss of sense of smell is a symptom we've heard a lot about in the last few weeks in particular because it did become clear from a study using an app that if you get coronavirus and you... if you think you have symptoms of coronavirus,

you have symptoms of coronavirus, you report your symptoms, 20% will say they have sense of smell and among people that have been diagnosed, 60%, three in five, had loss of sense of smell. but what they don't have is it she knows, itchy eyes, sneezing is not a big feature of coronavirus either and you certainly don't have an itchy throat if you have symptoms in your throat if you have symptoms in your throat with coronavirus, it will be a sore throat. you also don't get a fever. the majority of people who have hayfever will have at least one of those other symptoms. if you had hayfever in the past, its much more likely this is hayfever if you've got those other symptoms. if you've never had hayfever symptoms and you get them for the first time but you don't have a fever, you don't have a cough. what you have is sneezing and itchy nose, then it's almost certainly coronavirus. a question from mark, part engineering and part medicine, he wants to know if you go into a shop with air—conditioning

and somebody has the virus, would it not spread the virus around the shop when we breathe, we expel moisture, moisture is circulated all over the shop? it's a really great question and it's been looked at very carefully, not just it's been looked at very carefully, notjust in it's been looked at very carefully, not just in relation it's been looked at very carefully, notjust in relation to air—conditioning, which is what we arejust air—conditioning, which is what we are just about thinking about, but in relation to aircraft where the air is recirculated. what we've seen is although in china there was one example of a cluster in a restaurant which was air—conditioned, which we think was passed on through air—conditioning, there were three families who caught it, the risk is relatively low. the risk is much better if you are in direct contact with somebody because there is much more of the virus there from droplet spread if you're within two metres of somebody. what that did lead the chinese to do is to say we should think about having our restaurants or tables further apart, and that's of course what we do with social distancing. very interesting, isn't

it? shannon has got in touch. this is something to do with people who have been deemed high risk, and this is about the timetable since the announcement about extended lockdown, she asks when will the lockdown, she asks when will the lockdown be lifted for high—risk people? it was 12 weeks originally for high—risk, does that mean it has also been pushed beyond? well, that's the very highest risk, that's the shielded population. the confusion has arisen because there's two groups, the very high risk population and that's people with cystic fibrosis, very severe asthma, having chemotherapy for asthma and having chemotherapy for asthma and having lung transplants, they've been told to stay indoors completely for 12 weeks and then there's high—risk people, basically anybody effectively invited for a flu vaccine and anybody who has high blood pressure. all those people are at higher risk than average but they haven't been told to shield

themselves. for the shielding group, i'm hoping that by the time we get to 12 weeks we are possibly at the peak, or around the peak, there are some very peak, or around the peak, there are some very early signs that things are levelling off and possibly even some of the indicators slightly dipping. i would certainly hope by 12 weeks we would have a significant reduction in those. but what we need to do is continue to protect those very high risk people, because if we ta ke very high risk people, because if we take our foot off the brake now there's a real... and i mean very real risk of a surge in cases, and thatis real risk of a surge in cases, and that is what we have to avoid. 12 weeks at least. i would hope we might be able to let some of the restrictions for people being shielded at 12 weeks, but we may have to toughen them up again if there's any increase in cases. lots of people today asking us about some of people today asking us about some of these situations they are finding themselves in, for example, in shops and supermarkets and andrew says standing at q is in supermarkets,

i've seen people vaping, so surely this can trans board the virus further? that is a queue outside a supermarket by the sounds of it, so evenif supermarket by the sounds of it, so even if you have got the correct social distancing, you're seeing somebody nearby who is vaping. what about that? what vaping is, although they usually coming out, is a combination of water and propylene glycol, along with a couple of flavours and glycerol, but basically it is water and propylene glycol, those droplets are extremely small, much smaller than the ones when people cough and sneeze, and they are blown out at a lower rate than when somebody cough source nieces. although there is a theoretical risk from vaping, it's probably no greater than the so—called aerosol risk when somebody breeds especially when they blowout hard. it should be lower than the risk of one coughing

and sneezing, which is still, as far as we are aware, the main risk. i'll play doctor for the minute, as we are aware, the main risk. i'll play doctorfor the minute, how as we are aware, the main risk. i'll play doctor for the minute, how are you? very well, an early start but lots of people doing early starts, lots of people doing early starts, lots of people doing early starts, lots of chefs, but this isn't my onlyjob. lots of chefs, but this isn't my only job. in terms of the work you do and your patients, it has changed, isn't it? everyone is adapting the way they are doing things, patients and medics. it's really interesting because gps have often said i have trained other gps, i have trained them for 24 years, and it was a question of learning so much on the telephone... we didn't have video consultations when i started and really we onlyjust started and really we onlyjust started getting them. it's very much a question of often you will need to eye the patient, even if you don't need to examine them you will need to eye the patient, we are discovering a great deal can be done on telephone and even more on video

consultations than we thought. i think after this the royal college of gps chairman has said there might be 50% of consultations done by video after that and for patients, that will probably be no bad thing. sara, good to talk to you this morning, thank you so much. always good to have a gp on the programme, we do that every day, we co nsta ntly programme, we do that every day, we constantly get your questions coming into us and we will try to get them to ourgps. into us and we will try to get them to our gps. headlines coming up.

hello, this is breakfast with charlie stayt and naga munchetty. good morning. here's a summary of today's main stories from bbc news. doctors and nurses in england could be asked to treat coronavirus patients without fully protective gowns and to reuse equipment. public health england has changed its guidance on the use of protective clothing amid warnings that some hospitals will run out of long—sleeved gowns in one or two days. the advice was condemned by the british medical association and the royal college of nursing, but the health minister matt hancock has blamed a global shortage of kit. saffron cordery, deputy chief executive of nhs providers, which represents trusts across england, joins us now. thank you very much for talking to us thank you very much for talking to us this morning. many people will be quite confused this morning about what nhs workers are being asked to do. can you clarify why this has

changed and how acceptable it is? so, in terms of why this has changed, our understanding is that the supply of gowns across the country, the fully fluid repellent longsleeved gowns across the country, is running short. so typically a big hospital trust will use around 4000 gowns a day. across london we might use 30 to 40,000 gowns a day, and we know that the supplies down to the level of of thousands in the country. this means that not every hospital will run out, but will see significant shortages across the country. —— the level of tens of thousands in the country. what has happened is that public health england has a good who guidelines about how you manage this situation in a pandemic if you have a shortage of gowns or other

personal protective equipment. —— adopted who guidelines. that is how this has come about and i think it is important to remember that, but this is not a complete change in guidance, this is a temporary change in guidance, until the supplies come through. however, what! in guidance, until the supplies come through. however, what i would say is that everybody is concerned about the situation, and none more so than hospital trust leaders and chief executives who are of course responsible for keeping their staff, their frontline staff, say. responsible for keeping their staff, theirfrontline staff, say. so everybody is concerned about the situation but they are following the international guidelines. when it comes to these trust leaders, because as you say, they are concerned with keeping their staff safe, can they say, "we don't agree with this, we're not going to our staff at risk," and then sated our staff, " if you staff at risk," and then sated our staff, "if you do not have one of these moisture repellent gowns, you do not have to be in that situation, you do not have to treat this

patient and put at risk". can they say that? i don't think it is about whether they can say that not. i think it is about managing the situation they are in, and this is obviously an emergency situation. it isa obviously an emergency situation. it is a pandemic situation that we are tackling at the moment, and it is about getting through a period of time before we can get to a sustainable supply of gowns. and i think the important thing to remember here as well as that those fully fluid repellent gowns will be reserved for the highest grade procedures. so they will always be used in surgery and they will always be used in aerosol generating procedures. it is about making sure that those other situations can use different gowns and different combinations of protective equipment... are you saying they are not needed? equipment... are you saying they are not needed ? sorry, equipment... are you saying they are not needed? sorry, just to clarify, you are saying that the other gowns can be used in lest critical

situations or less exposed situations, so are they not needed? is they are therefore not a problem? i don't think we can actually talk about black—and—white situations here. you know, this isn't ideal. if there were a full supply of gowns everybody would be wearing gowns, but that is not the situation we are in. so it is about being really clear about how we can actually make the situation workable for this period of time where the equipment is not available. that it isn't ideal. trust leaders will tell you that they would much prefer, of course, to be able to access the supplies, and i think they have been working really hard with the national nhs supply chain, which controls all of this. but there are some really significant issues here, and the biggest issue is that there is global demand for these gowns, because nearly every country is facing the challenge of coronavirus,

and the biggest manufacturer of these gowns is china, and china until recently significantly shut down all of its output because of coronavirus. so waiting for all those supplies to come through is very, very difficult. and we know that the orders are the responsibility of trust leaders, but we know that the orders were put in a month ago for these gowns, but some of them haven't arrived and those that are on their way are taking a long time, because the delivery and the supply chain is very patchy. so none of this deal, andi very patchy. so none of this deal, and i think, you know, we are working around a situation which is immensely challenging... saffron, if i could, the message that you are putting out there is one that we have heard from matt hancock as well, which is that the problems are in the global market. i think eve ryo ne in the global market. i think everyone understands that. but the words you used a moment ago, this

isn't ideal, i'm trying to work out how that pans out on a ward today or on sunday, when a clinician goes into work and is told, that day, but they do not have the correct equipment. —— that they. are they expected to stand in that situation and say, well, this isn't ideal, but i'll go in anyway, knowing that the risk to my health has been magnified substantially? i'm just trying to work out what they are either allowed to do, or being advised to do? what they are being advised to do? what they are being advised to do is to follow the who guidelines, which as we understand it, offer a safe alternative to gowns. now, gowns are not the ideal scenario. however, the alternatives that are

there should give staff confidence that they can work safely. however, you know, even an ideal scenario, which we are not in at the moment, andi which we are not in at the moment, and i think we all need to be clear about that, we are facing a situation where we have a shortage... forgive me, forgive me, i want to try to bring you back to the practicalities of this. your image has actually frozen momentarily, but we can hear you perfectly clearly. i am just trying to get to the very practical issue of what those individual clinicians who are working on the wards are supposed to do. what i think i am hearing you saying is, theyjust have to accept they are going into a less safe environment. that is what they have to accept? i think what we all have to accept is that the world health organization guidelines are such that they have recommended this approach when gowns are not

available. and i think that is where we are at. it is an alternative to the gowns. i think what we need to remember with this is that gowns are ideal because they are easy to wear, they are easy to what is called "donning and doffing", i.e. when you put them on and take them off again. they are very easy to wear, they are a very practical means of keeping yourself safe. the alternatives are much less practical. they take longer to put on. they take longer to ta ke longer to put on. they take longer to take off. they require more infection control around the process. so they require lots of scrubbing of the arms before and afterwards in a way that gowns do not. so a lot of this is about the convenience around the processes as well. we have heard lots of talk about the world health organization

guidelines being very time—consuming and very impractical, and u nfortu nately, and very impractical, and unfortunately, that is the situation where... 0k, unfortunately, that is the situation where... ok, so, saffron... people will be facing a longer process in order to kind of put on and take off this equipment as well. but we do recognise that this is not an ideal situation. 0k. but we do recognise that this is not an ideal situation. ok. you have used that phrase again, that this is not an ideal situation. can ijust be clear, are you saying that what this is in terms of prep? you were describing how much extra scrubbing would have to take place with alternate aprons or gowns. but can you then say, hand on heart, knowing fully well that these gowns committees fluid repellent gowns are not as available, but there will be not as available, but there will be no extra risk to those who are treating highly infectious coronavirus patients, because of this gowns shortage? i think for

eve ryo ne this gowns shortage? i think for everyone it is incredibly difficult at the moment to assess the level of risk that people are facing. everyone is doing their best to minimise that risk. and i think that is what i can say, and the world health organization... sorry, saffron, i will interrupt you. you keep going back to the who guidelines, but it was a quite straightforward question, i think. is anyone going to be exposed to extra risk because of this gowns shortage? i can't answer that question. i don't know the answer to that question. what i can do, and i will go back to the who guidelines, because they are the organisation who is qualified to put in place alternative arrangements when certain supplies are not in stock, and so! certain supplies are not in stock, and so i think we have to uphold those guidelines because they are

the organisation who is qualified to say whether they are safe or not. and if they are saying they are safe, then i believe we should follow those guidelines. if we are talking about levels of risk, i am not qualified to talk about that, but in terms of world health organization guidelines, they are the international body charged with overseeing whether certain bits of protective equipment are safe or not. and so i think we have to trust in that and follow that and if they recommend this, then that is what we should trust. saffron cordry, deputy chief executive of nhs providers, thank you very much for your time with us on breakfast this morning. and apologies, as you are probably well aware, the image there during saffron's interview froze, we could hear her voice so we thought it was best to continue. a lot of interviews are being done by different means at the moment. yes! every once in awhile is going to happen. technology has actually been

surprisingly good of late. we can see jane, who is doing sport for us, even though we cannot physically speak to you in person, you are a couple of floors down with the sport. good morning. good morning. i am sure that is a relief to you both, that i am not right next to you on the couch. anyway. it is a sad day in the footballing world because of the death of the leeds legend norman hunter. flowers, shirts and scarves have been laid at elland road in memory of one of leeds united's greatest ever servants, norman hunter, who has died from coronavirus aged 76. iam i am pleased to say that we are joined on the mind by one of norman hunter's not just former teammates but also his friend,. innkeeper taking the time to speak to us. our sincere condolences, because i know you are very close to norman. obviously a big loss to the footballing world, but you knew the man. what was he like?

well, pauline rang me yesterday to say that sadly norman had passed away. i was absolutely gutted. and in my thoughts now, i am thinking of his family. as i say, ifound out that he was in hospital with this virus. and pauline kept me in touch to see how he was going. and as time went on, i thought, well... to see how he was going. and as time went on, ithought, well... he to see how he was going. and as time went on, i thought, well... he is going to beat this, i prayed that he would fight this and beat it. but u nfortu nately would fight this and beat it. but unfortunately he didn't. it is a real great loss to football and it isa real great loss to football and it is a great loss to leeds united. i am absolutely gutted because it is like, i have four brothers, and we are all brothers at that club, at that time, it is like losing a brother. and i am so sad about it.

and of course he was known for his fearsome tackling, earning the nickname bites yer legs, but he was also the first—ever winner of the pfa player of the year. do you feel that reflects the esteem he was held in? well, i think, you know, he was a great defender. a great, world —class a great defender. a great, world—class defender. you don't see too many of those today. but he had more going on. he was a great passer of the ball. he read it again brilliantly, he was grateful for player, world—class football player. so the press will take him with what have you, and he was hard, but as i say, i'm glad he was playing on my tea m say, i'm glad he was playing on my team rather than playing against me. allan clarke, thank you so much for your time allan clarke, thank you so much for yourtime and your allan clarke, thank you so much for your time and your memories of the

late norman hunter, who has passed away at the age of 76. let's have a look the weather today with louise. thanks, charlie and good morning, everybody. the weather watchers are illustrating the point beautifully and starting off with beautiful, look at this in moray, blue sky and sunshine starting to come through andi sunshine starting to come through and i love this weather watcher picture from barbara, i'm hoping you're not offended, but i think you've open the curtain and gone and gone back under the duvet. pussy miserable in england and wales. we haven't seen rain for a while so we can't moan —— pretty miserable. over an inch for the gardeners overnight. this is the last three hours. showery outbreaks, some heavy, some of it going northwards steadily. scotla nd of it going northwards steadily. scotland and northern ireland, dry.

a lot of cloud in east scotland, that should melt away for the afternoon very nicely. showery rain should start to ease a little and if we get breaks to the south, we might see temperatures looking at 16 but generally highs of nine to 14. through the evening, with the cloud around, temperatures not falling away too far at all. some clearer skies in scotland, low single figures here, but for many overnight lows of six to nine. tomorrow will be much more straightforward, don't know what i can tell you because blue sky and sunshine pretty much from sunday through the whole of the week. a lot of cloud around first thing and a few isolated showers but then an easterly breeze will dry the cloud back to the west coast, cooler on the east coast highest values are likely of 17, 63 fahrenheit. why so quiet? all because of high pressure. the position of the high pressure is interesting. because it is close to

norway, we might see more of an easterly breeze for the next few days and for some it will be a strong wind at times, gusting in excess of 30 mph. dry, plenty of sunshine around but the winds are going to be a feature. with a bit of shelter, still feeling quite warm. a bit of a lottery over the next few days. monday is dry, settled and sunny with the easterly breeze potentially gusting to around 30 and these are mean speed winds and further inland and you could get 20 degrees with shelter, 68 fahrenheit. looking ahead, fairly quiet. for the next few days, dry, settled and sunny and the best of the warmth in the sheltered west. back to you two. let's take a look at this week's click.

hey, welcome back. here we are again. and thank you so much for all the kind comments about last week's programme. they meant a lot to us, mainly they were comments about the cushions and the painting, but i will take it. look who else is back, its lara — hello mate, how are you, what have you been up to? hello, i have been very busy mastering the art of the zoom dinner party. have you tried it? no i haven't, that sounds very middle—class, i have been down the pub virtually with some friends, but i haven't done a dinner party yet. is this something you dress up for? of course, what else is there to get dressed up for at the moment? and the thing is, i have worked out how to do it so it is not awkward. your guests arrive, you have a nice chat before you start eating, then you turn the video

and microphone off for a bit while you're serving food, so people aren't walking in and out of shot or peering around trying to get into shot, and also, no awkward chewing and talking at the same time, i know it happens in real life but no need for it at the moment, and then after dinner you get together again. nice! ok, and you are pretty sure most people are wearing trousers? because that's the other thing about virtual meetings, you have no idea what is going on below the waist. absolutely no idea. but of course many of us are using conferencing apps at the moment for many different reasons. a lot of them far more important than my dinner parties. spencer, what do you think this lot are up to? both: the health and wellbeing of my patient will be my first consideration. both: i will respect the autonomy and dignity of my patient. it certainly sounds very important, doesn't it? i dunno, go on. yes, they are medical students taking their hippocratic oath. because without that, they can't become nhs doctors. and of course right now, we need all the doctors we can get. so newcastle university has

accelerated the process with a virtual graduation, using microsoft's flipgrid software. all: upon my honour. that hippocratic oath is brilliant, isn't it, it's so important to people who work in medicine, they are the true heroes in this. there are many people who are particularly at risk from the virus, and those are the people we're properly trying to shield at the moment, many of them will be elderly. and when you are copletely locked in your home and you are not allowed out, that is when we really need technology to help stay in touch with those people and help them keep busy. and jen copestake has been looking at what is on offer. concerns for people living in care homes across the country are increasing as many become ill with the coronavirus and are separated from their loved ones. while there's little human comfort for many during this incredibly difficult time, some care homes are employing technical solutions to try and provide some outside connection, and if not, a little distraction for their residents. in belgium, 60 zorabots have been deployed to care homes around

the country to entertain residents kept in their rooms in isolation. this includes henry who spoke to me on the zorabot which visited his room. henry said it was too difficult to talk about how the isolation makes him feel, but he was very happy to speak on the robot. that's the biggest problem, is the isolation, that they are far from theirfamily, and they are not allowed to go outside or to see them or to hold them in the arms, and so we are doing all what we can to give them their contact with the family. in the netherlands, these sara bots were used in care homes before the pandemic, but now the company is providing them for a month free to anyone who would like to try them out.

while sara's off visiting the ward, this 95—year—old woman uses a videoconference in her room. but she has regularly spent time with sara. and for the first time in a care home, sara is being used in a trial to visit a patient who is critically ill with coronavirus. on thursday we got a phone call from the care homes, and they told me, "we have a corona patient, and in this case it is really sad because we know she is not going to survive this," so there was really — they were in a hurry. so they told me, they asked us, "can you help us with this robot?" so we said of course,

and the next day we brought a robot in. here in the uk the nhs's innovation team, nhs x, are looking at how technology can be used here to alleviate isolation and bring families together. a trial with facebook's portal device in care homes and hospitals is under way. chd care homes in surrey were using the portal before the crisis in a programme called adopt a grandparent. volunteers call in to in to speak to care home residents. i still work. that's nice, what do you do? a few weeks ago they put out a special call for the covid crisis to ask for more adoptions. how old are you? and the response we've had is now 70,000 volunteers registered worldwide. it's been absolutely phenomenal. just for your care homes or care homes all over the world? 70,000 just for our care homes. wow! ijust think it is fantastic that there is potentially a technology answer to such a really human problem, because i'm a big believer

in the power of technology, and here's potentially something that is undeniably making things better for people in a really tough situation. we also tested a couple of tablets designed for elderly isolators when the pandemic is over, some of these solutions may be permanently implemented to help look after our ella elderly relatives. but everyone we spoke to emphasised how much they would like to see us in person. we need to think carefully about the impact replacing humans may have on the future of care and the shape of our future society. that wasjen looking at how technology is in a small way trying to help in what is a really difficult situation. lara, you have been looking at something similar in the volunteer space, yes? that's right, something to help those doctors and nurses who are working around the clock. because for those with children, there is an extra logistical issue in the equation. so medical students who are not

quite ready for the frontline have found a way that they can still help. so we made the facebook group and it just snowballed within the space of 24 hours, we were like oh my goodness, babysitting app bubble one was that took on the task of helping connect them to nhs parents. more than 500 nhs workers have already booked free childcare through the apps pool of over 1000 safety checked volunteers. a lot of us are working in emergency rotas now so the hours we might have been doing before, or the pattern of work has changed considerably. so this would provide us with those extended hours of service that we would need. healthship is another service built by medical students looking to make good use of their spare time. students from 95 universities have signed up to help nhs staff. today i am picking up a prescription and delivering it to a patient. it means i can give back to the community and help those who are vulnerable in this pandemic.

by far and large the vast majority of interest has been in childcare which makes sense because that is where the help is really needed. any of us have a chance to volunteer in this crisis. over three quarters of a million brits have signed up to the good sam app to help others. when the news story came out that people could volunteer, i thought, that is exactly what i want to do. proof that not only are we in this together but community spirit definitely does exist. i'm in hastings, famed for its history, castle and mediaeval tapestry and i am here to get a taste of some of the culture they have got an offer, but not where you might imagine. i'm just going to connect

to hastings right now, so that's just outside of london, certainly not somewhere i'm allowed to go at the moment. that's right, i'm going on a gallery tour inside a robot. welcomes to hastings contemporary. this is a collaboration between the gallery and bristol robotics laboratory. the idea is to adapt these telepresence robots so we can all enjoy art without leaving our homes. today i'm being shown around by director of the gallery, liz gilmore. ok, here we go. sorry. ok, so my bad driving aside, this project is about more than just bringing in virtual visitors during the lockdown. this technology has been developed for a while as being used in videoconferencing, but not before in a uk gallery. so it was opportunistic for us. we knew one of our trustees who is a disabled artist, she had been using this for her own communications and meetings, and so was able to ask

bristol robotics if we could use this robot as a trial during this period at the gallery. from my end, all i need is a web browser and a prearranged slot to drop into the gallery. it's hard to argue that robo tours like this are anything but a positive idea right now. but what about when galleries reopen to in—person visitors? if you think about access to art, et cetera, you know, some people are able to afford those holidays to go across to venice or paris, and see the louvre for instance, and that's not available to everyone. at its heart, this project could mean more people who would not usually get the chance to see out like this can enjoy it. we can think about this as a way of bringing people together in different ways. well, that was great! i've just been to a gallery! you know, when it comes down to it, that's reallyjust a very elaborate

video call, but there is something quite nice about being able to walk around, discover the place yourself, find the nooks and crannies as he would if you were actually there. pretty cool! that was absolutely brilliant. that's steve driving a robot round an art gallery! you cannot ask for more, can you? and he didn't crash it down the stairs. however, if you do want more, you can have more. this is the short length version of the programme, the full length is available for you right now on iplayer. please go check it out. thank you so much for and we will see you soon.

good morning, welcome to breakfast with charlie stayt and naga munchetty. our headlines today: new guidance for frontline nhs workers — they're told to re—use special protective equipment in extreme circumstances. some hospitals say they're about to run out of special gowns used to treat coronavirus patients. flowers and scarfs have been left outside elland road as the football world pays tribute to norman hunter. the leeds united legend died yesterday at the age of 76 after being diagnosed

with coronavirus. good morning, there is a north—south divide with their weather today. the best of the sunshine will certainly best of the sunshine will certainly be across scotland and northern ireland, some sharp showers to england and wales will slowly fade as we go through the day. it will stay rather cloudy. all the details coming up shortly. # you'll never walk alone #. aiming for the top of the charts. captain tom teams up with michael ball as his fundraising effort passes £21 million. it's saturday april the 18th. our top story this morning. doctors and nurses in england could be asked to re—use personal protective equipment when treating coronavirus patients. public health england has changed its guidance on the use of ppe amid warnings that some hospitals will run out of special gowns this weekend.

we'll be discussing government guidance on masks before the end of the programme after the london mayor sadiq khan called for them to be worn in public. first this report byjohn mcmanus. in this workplace, the machinists are more used to making jackets designed to withstand the british weather, but now the staff at this barbour factory in south shields have turned their hands to personal protective equipment — ppe — vital to repel not train, —— not raining, but the coronavirus. the company says it hopes to make around 23,000 gowns for nhs staff over a three—week period. other manufacturers havejoined in. but despite this, supplies of ppe in england, such as fully fluid—repellent gowns, will run out sometime this weekend, according to the head of nhs providers, chris hopson. he blames a global shortage, saying that gowns ordered weeks ago were just beginning to arrive now. in response, public health england

has issued new guidelines, saying that some ppe can be reused if necessary until the new supplies arrive, but that's provoked an angry response from health unions. unison has warned that some of its members may refuse to work if they feel unsafe and the bma is also unhappy. i don't think any health care worker should be expected to expose themselves to potential risks to their lives during the course of their work. it's a real disappointment to us that the government has been unable, even after a month, to address this progressively worsening shortage of ppe. the department of health says staff are working around the clock to solve the problem. given we have a global situation in which there is less ppe in the world than the world needs, obviously it's going to be a huge pressure point. meanwhile, the government says it has no plans to make people wear face masks in public, despite lobbying from the mayor of london, sadiq khan. the masks are compulsory

in new york, as well as the czech republic and slovakia, but the world health organization says that, apart from health workers, masks should only be worn by those who display the symptoms of covid—19 or are caring for somebody who does. john mcmanus, bbc news. let's get the latest from our political correspondent jonathan blake now. with doctors and worth sketching and assisting us to work without these full—length gowns. we were talking earlier to nhs trust providers and what we believe they are hearing now is that there may be some risk, but they are going to need to change the way they work? this problem of supplying enough protective equipment to health care workers has been an issue from the start for the government. you heard matt hancock in the report they're expressing frustration, i think, in the report they're expressing

frustration, ithink, that in the report they're expressing frustration, i think, that this is a global problem and there simply isn't an adequate supply of ppe to meet the huge demand in country after cou ntry meet the huge demand in country after country dealing with so many cases of coronavirus. nevertheless, it is the government here in the uk who will be held to account if and when a serious shortages occur. i think the updated guidance is a reflection of the fact that that has no more of a risk than ever. the ready supply and adequate supply of ppe isjust one ready supply and adequate supply of ppe is just one test the government has set itself to be met to get that under control if the locked and restrictions in place on other movements are to be eased or eventually lifted. other criteria include following death rates and falling infection rates. there is more pressure on the government this morning to open up about the decision—making process about how and potentially when the lockdown may be lifted, adding to the calls from labour and other conservative mps saying that the government needs to treat the public adult and not

children and be honest about this process “— children and be honest about this process —— treaty public like adults are not children. there are widespread agreement that the strict restrictions on amendment are necessary , restrictions on amendment are necessary, nobody wants to see them in place longerfriend necessary, nobody wants to see them in place longer friend than necessary, nobody wants to see them in place longerfriend than —— restrictions on amendment are necessary. that pressure on the government will only grow. thank you very much. president donald trump has defended his tweets in which he appeared to endorse protests against stringent lockdown measures in several us states, saying some were "too tough".( earlier, he wrote in a series of tweets: "liberate minnesota", "liberate michigan" and then "liberate virginia". health officials say the curbs, including the stay—at—home orders, are needed to halt the spread of coronavirus. the outbreak is expected to have a significant impact on the uk economy, and new research has found this year's university graduates could spend years in lower paid, non—graduatejobs, as a result.

the institute for fiscal studies says experience of previous recessions shows that starting work during an economic downturn often leads to a negative impact for graduates. here's our education editor, branwen jeffreys. 65% of my grade comes from work completed during coronavirus, so i am worried about my grade. i think my biggest concern about the economic impact 0f of covid—19 is that there is not going to be anyjobs. i won't have the closure of finalising my three years at this university due, to the fact that i will not be having a graduation. fearful voices of a student generation graduating into the chaos of the pandemic. sophie wants students to get a tuition refund. more than 300,000 have signed her petition to mp5. strikes by lecturers earlier this year had already disrupted learning. now, instead of lecture halls, universities are online. this campus would normally be buzzing with students

on their way to the library, revising for the finals. instead, they are stuck anxiously at home, waiting to do online exams, and worrying about their future. that's why many students are calling for universities to guarantee that they won't lose out as a result of this virus. liverpool is one of the universities making that promise. students cannot fall below their average, but the university told me that doesn't mean lower standards. they will not want to graduate feeling that they have had an easier pass through their degree. and that is certainly not the case. today, a warning that new graduates may pay a heavy economic price. going to find it harder to get a job at all. in particular, they are much more likely to end up with a non—graduate job. shona is among the lucky ones.

she is about to graduate as a physio. i spent the last four years of university striving towards the day i can get out and help the nhs and help people, and to be honest, there's no better time to be doing that than now. a job's waiting for her in just a few weeks' time. captain tom moore has already raised more than £21 million for the nhs with his sponsored walk, but he's not done yet. he wants to go even further — this time by releasing a charity single. # and that you'll never walk alone. we saw him on thursday and he likes to sing along. now you can see him

there sing alongside michael ball. if he tops the charts on friday, it would mean that he'd be number one on his 100th birthday. which is thursday. if he is number one this coming friday, it lasts a week. that would be a great birthday treat. it is ten minutes past eight. we've been hearing this morning about the intense efforts to get more personal protective equipment for our front line carers — and that includes some unusual methods of transit. this british airways plane would normally be flying people around the world but instead its seats are stacked with boxes of ppe from china, where so much of the kit is manufactured. that's a round trip of around 24 hours from the uk — and one of the pilots who made the journey is first officer helen geering. she joins us now from her home in hampshire. a very good morning to you. this was

a flight, i assume, like none other you have ever undertaken before? absolutely. completely unique experience for all the crew on board, but obviously very, very happy to be helping our nhs at this difficult time. because us through some of the logistics stop where did you take off from? where did you land? you take off from? where did you land ? the you take off from? where did you land? the loading process and the journey itself? we started in heathrow and there were seven pilots on board, six cabin crew and three members of cargo staff. and so it was pretty much empty going out, we wanted to bring back as much of the possible of the important equipment. we leaveners to shanghai, then about two hours on the ground before flying immediately back to heathrow. we had the belly of the aircraft full of cargo, but also unusually we did carrya full of cargo, but also unusually we did carry a lot of the ppe equipment inside the cabin which would

normally have our customers. on the face of it, you tell me, that sounds like a very quick turnaround? just two hours on the ground for them to get everything on board, which was clearly done very speedily, but also for you and your fellow pilots, the challenge of who is going to be flying the plane because normally you would rest quite a bit in between? usually we would, yes. somewhere like shanghai and the far east, we would have around 48 hours, but we would normally have a three crew operating that and the rest are to back. but we act they had seven pilots on there so that rest could be maximised and it was spread out evenly between the whole crew. what was the atmosphere like a? evenly between the whole crew. what was the atmosphere like a7m evenly between the whole crew. what was the atmosphere like a? it was actually very, very good jovial atmosphere. we were all very very happy to be helping our nhs. we were also very selfishly, i suppose, quite pleased to get out, get out of their homes and actually see other human beings fora their homes and actually see other human beings for a little while. but everybody, of course, was a very,

very privileged on board to be part of this unique site. and obviously very few that his airways flight, other flights as well flying at the moment. i imagine it must be nice for you to be back at the wheel ain? — for you to be back at the wheel again? —— british airways flights. absolutely. do not take anything for granted. those beautiful views that we granted. those beautiful views that we have been afforded every week have been taken away from a temporarily so it was a real treat, certainly, for the crew to operate the flight. you can normally sit in your british airways uniform when you're not at work? is that a normal thing for you, get up in the morning put your uniform on, makes you feel good? yes, this is my normal clothes at home during lockdown. no, i thought it would look smart and my mum told me to do it. always do what you mum says, which is important! you do look very smart. is there

something that is going to be happening more? to you now? is clearly, you don't want to get into the politics, but there is huge demand. will there be more flights like this questioning absolutely. absolutely. this is in addition to repatriation flights. we are going to some unusual destinations that we would not normally flight her to bring people back on. we are operating to help as much and get that valuable equipment as much as we can that valuable equipment as much as we can to the nhs. good talking to this man, thank you very much. and let's very smart indeed. -- good talking to you this morning. someone was saying that they are home—schooling and the head teacher, because the teachers speak to them to remotely, making sure that the kids are in their school uniforms. while they are at home. but in that

mindset, doesn't it? it might be that there is a kind of polarisation at the moment where some people do not care, they wear whatever they wa nt not care, they wear whatever they want because they do not have to see anyone. i dare say that there are people who still stick to, i am getting up, i will get dressed as if... can you imagine sitting there are not in a suit for work? you're watching breakfast from bbc news. time now for a look at the newspapers. let's look at the front pages. "no defence" is the headline on the daily mirror, as it highlights the shortages of protective equipment at hospitals. it describes the health secretary matt hancock as "floundering" after he said he couldn't "magic up" the necessary gear. the daily mail says a team of scientists at oxford university could make a "breakthrough" in the search for a vaccine. it says a clinical trial involving 510 volunteers is due to start next week. an estimate of the number of care home deaths in england shows as many as 7,500 residents have died "as a result" of coronavirus, the daily telegraph reports.

the paper says the review by care england is based on data from its own 3,500 care homes. and the times is reporting that some senior tory mps have said the public are being treated "like children" as ministers refuse to discuss options for easing lockdown restrictions. the paper notes scientists are yet to agree an exit strategy. just a couple of thoughts. a lot of people in the absence of a normal calendar things to do, people like a moment, do they not? which is why services have become such a thing. this is martin clint is holding his cup of tea and saucer —— martin clunes, national td is helping to raise funds for for guide dogs. ——

national tea day. he looks like a man who likes a cup of tea. a good cup of tea is hard to beat in my opinion. the times weekend section has, talking about the dog, omg, he is so cute. and talking about how their canine companions are helping them get through. here's louise with a look at this morning's weather. iam all i am all right i give my dog hair cut yesterday. it was quite funny.” feel like we need to see a before and after image. i am working on it.

i have got some photographs. i will try and get them to you. the next time we see you? she was not amused, ican time we see you? she was not amused, i can tell you. it has been mainly dry, the weather story over the last few weeks. oh, the irony. it stays mainly dry, lots of sunshine around. but a keen easterly wind could just make it feel on the chilly side. that said, i'm going to contradict myself, we see some rain through the night. the first significant rain across england and wales for nearly four weeks. some of that has been quite heavy. over an inch of rain in places. it is continuing to drift its way steadily north and west. further north, that is where the best of the weather is, a little bit of cloud at the moment across eastern scotland, but western scotla nd eastern scotland, but western scotland already glorious and we will see lots of sunshine across scotland, northern england and northern ireland later on. the wind will ease and there will be a lot of clout, underneath that could only ten or 11. if we see breaking up down to the south—east, we could see

16. as we go to the evening and overnight, we keep some cloud across england and wales and maybe some isolated showers into northern ireland. it will stay relatively mild through the night. if you clear skies it could mean those in single figures here. tomorrow is much more straightforward day. lots of dry weather event, it might start off cloudy, but that keen easterly wind is hopefully going to drive that cloud back further west. lots of sunshine starting to come through. temperatures peaking through the afternoon of nine 17p high pressure will see with us as we go through the week ahead. with that high—pressure splitting it into scandinavia, wind spinning around in a clockwise direction and that means easterly winds also continue. on the east coast it is going to be colour, but monday straightforward day. lots of blue sky, lots of sand and coming to social to dress areas will see

the best of the weather. —— lots of sunshine. and lots of blue sky. get a bit of shelter and you mates with temperatures peaking at 20 celsius, 68 fahrenheit and you might see temperatures peaking. highs of 20 celsius in cardiff on tuesday afternoon, but still windy with it. thank you, look forward to the pictures. former tour de france champion geraint thomas has raised more than £315,000 for the nhs, after riding for 36 hours in three days — to mirror the shift pattern typically done by health care workers. the twice—olympic gold medalist, said he wanted to thanks everybody working for the on the front line in the fight against coronavirus. ben croucher reports. and somebody else really well—known is getting on their bike to help raise money as well.

who else would you want at this point but the former tour de france champion, geraint thomas. oh my goodness, you're pedalling already, how is it going? it's all right at the minute, i've only been going ten minutes. that was the start of something epic for geraint thomas, three long but unforgettable days, 12 hours on wednesday, thursday and friday, the same length as many nhs shifts. tiring but worth it. a massive thanks to all of you out there who have donated over the last few days, it made a massive difference, cheers, guys. but thomas isn'tjust doing this on his own. thanks to the power of social media and a cycling app, people like you and me canjoin him virtually, and you've been doing so in your thousands. in gardens, living rooms and balconies, young and old, individuals and families from around the world have been showing just what pedal power can achieve. it felt crazy because you never really get a chance like this to ride with him. it was really fun and really interesting to ride with somebody

like a professional that i wouldn't usually ride with. you really feel like you're actually riding with him. the physical and fundraising effort so far has been amazing, no idea how you've done it. 12 is the next level and to do it on three consecutive days, geraint thomas is a champion, we applaud him. amazing to see the amount of support with people riding with me and all the donations, sure how much the nhs —— shows how much the nhs at eve ryo ne —— shows how much the nhs at everyone working there... what they are doing, everyone getting behind it, it is amazing. people like natasha and andrew. for front line nhs staff, it's important we get all the support we can. it's been difficult sometimes but we're doing ok, we're looking after each other and doing the best we can, and that's the most important. that's what kept thomas going through the gruelling 36 hours, the last two he described as the hardest on his bike. he finished with no fanfare or ceremony, just a bottle

of champagne from his wife and the donations are still pouring in. i'm just looking forward to a shower and a bag of peas down below to help out a little bit. incredible. the main thing is raising so much money. which thanks to everyone who has joined me and everyone who has donated, but the biggest thanks goes to everyone who is working for the nhs. cheers! cheers to you. do whatever you can, if you have something to give. captain tom moore's amazing achievement this week has been an inspiration to us all — but now there's another nonagenarian who's taking on a marathon challenge. 90—year—old margaret payne is attempting to climb the equivalent of a scottish

mountain, by making more than 280 trips up her stairs. and she's already beaten her £10,000 target. she joins us now along with her daughter, nicky. good morning to you both. margaret, need to ask you, how are you today? it sounds pretty exhausting what you're trying to do. i'm fine, actually. it is a beautiful day. you're trying to do. i'm fine, actually. it is a beautiful daym absolutely is. a positive outlook. how many climbs, how many times have you been up and down the stairs so far? i think i've got to 21. and the total is going to be 282? what is your time frame for this? when you hoping to achieve this?” your time frame for this? when you hoping to achieve this? i think it will be the end ofjune. so you're pacing yourself, which is absolutely brilliant. what inspired you to do this? bell, tom, partly. obviously!

think it is amazing what he has achieved and my husband died at christmas time with us here in the house and he was looked after so well by the national health that hits my way of getting a little thank you. and also all our nursing staff, the doctors, nurses will stop i think it's also a thank you for that. it is a disgrace, i feel it is a disgrace dash make you feel it has a disgrace dash make you feel it has a disgrace... yes, i feel it is a disgrace that we were not more prepared. good morning, it is charlie here in the studio. lovely to see you. there is a lovely thing that has happened in a way for you asa that has happened in a way for you as a family, isn't it? that he

moment in time has happened, by coincidence, that you happened to be with your mum just when loughton happened? explain. yes i was here at christmas time when we lost a dad and we did have extraordinary support from the nhs, particularly locally. and yes, i was back for his service on the 17th of march so i got tena service on the 17th of march so i got ten a week before and luckily we had the last service in scotland before the church of scotland close the churches for a funeral so we had that on the morning of the 17th of march and they were closed by lunchtime. so that was very lucky. yes, this is a pretty unique time for mum and “ mum —— mum and i because we are in our bubble and undoes the stairs anyway

and we said we shouldn't do less, and we said we shouldn't do less, and we said we shouldn't do less, and we were inspired by tom so we came up this idea. i can't be the only person who has seen the footage of your going only person who has seen the footage of yourgoing up only person who has seen the footage of your going up and down the stairs and has been a bit worried about you being ok and safe and are you not going to fall over while doing this amazing challenge? will you reassure us amazing challenge? will you reassure us about the measures you're taking to make sure nothing is going to go wrong? well, i never feel a bit wobbly. ijust wrong? well, i never feel a bit wobbly. i just keep wrong? well, i never feel a bit wobbly. ijust keep on going.” wrong? well, i never feel a bit wobbly. ijust keep on going. i try to make sure i'm in the house, but sometime she sneaks off undoes them andl sometime she sneaks off undoes them and i have not noticed. margaret, nikki was saying that you a climber and were inspired to climb this particular amount because of your childhood and your climbing, tell about that? i didn't really climb.

the our nearest hill, i only did it once. i am assuming it was a challenge, but this is where you have decided to set yourself this challenge as well? i do not know. all of the family wanted to climb the mountains, except for me. i had trouble with many from the time i was 12 so i wasn't great on hills. well, this makes it all the more impressive, doesn't it? you had a target of raising a certain amount of money, but you have now raised more than £100,000. people have been so generous and so supportive.” know, they have. it has been amazing. i can't really believe it's

true. i think with gift aid, we are now at £206,000. we are at 176,000 are something this morning. it's just... amazing. it's a lovely talking to this money, what is the schedule for today? what is the plan for today? i have already been up the stairs once because the telephone went and i am at the one end of the houston stairs and nicola is at the other end at the top. —— of the house downstairs. it is a good beginning, isn't it? it is so lovely talking to you and we are wishing you well and it is lovely to see you together when it has been a difficult time he has a family anyway. we will keep an eye on you and see how it is going across the next couple of months. thank you. thank you very much. thank you.

still to come this morning... # you'll never walk alone. he doesn't feel to inspire, does he? we've got an exclusive first look at captain tom moore's duet with michael ball — "you'll never walk alone" — as the war veteran's incredible fundraising effort for the nhs tops £21 million. michael willjoin us just after nine. stay with us, headlines coming up.

hello, this is breakfast with charlie stayt and naga munchetty. coming up before 9am, louise will have the weekend's weather for you. but first, a summary of this morning's main news. doctors and nurses in england could be asked to treat coronavirus patients without fully protective gowns and to reuse equipment. public health england has changed its guidance on the use of protective clothing amid warnings that some hospitals will run out of long—sleeved gowns in one or two days. the advice has been condemned by the british medical association and the royal college of nursing. we can speak now to dr rosena allin—khan, the shadow ministerfor mental health. thank mental health. you for talking to us this

morning. thank you for talking to us this morning. what is your reaction to this latest guidance on personal protective equipment? thank you, good morning. staff are palpably scared. i work on the nhs front line, and my nhs and social care collea g u es line, and my nhs and social care colleagues are really, really worried about this. the rules and guidelines have been changing every couple of weeks throughout this crisis, and quite frankly, it is unacceptable that doctors, nurses and other staff are expected to see and other staff are expected to see and treat patients without the appropriate protection. not only does this put their own lives at risk, but it risks them spreading virus between patients, and taking it home to those they love the most. sorry for interrupting. will you explain this to me. you work in the nhs, as you say. how exactly does this increase the spread, or the risk of spread? take me through

literally the basics, in terms of procedures and how they are changing. ok, so the attire that you wear is only for single use. they are single use gowns. you put one on every time you see a patient so that when you take it off and put on a new gown, you do not risk spreading anything from one patient to another. if you are not wearing a gown and you were wearing your scrubs and you are treating a patient, you cannot guarantee that when you go and see your next patient, that your clothes, that may have touched a patient with coronavirus, doesn't accidentally touch the bed sheet or the close of another patient. we have seen so many nhs and care staff die already. staff m e ntal many nhs and care staff die already. staff mental health is being affected by this, and people are scared to go to work. what is the answer? if the gowns are not available. we spoke to the deputy chief executive of nhs providers,

who explained that the shortages with these fluid repellent gowns, so there are alternatives which would mean more cleaning, a longer procedure in terms of putting the gowns on and off, which impinges on time, obviously, but if they are not there, what else can be done? no staff member should ever be put in a position to risk their own life for the safety of patients at work. we had ourfirst the safety of patients at work. we had our first coronavirus patient in england in january. we had our first coronavirus patient in england injanuary. we had time to prepare for this, and there has been a lack of action. someone needs to a nswer a lack of action. someone needs to answer the question as to why that has happened. we were told weeks ago that we have all the equipment that we need, the nhs would have all the equipment in ease, but it doesn't. we should not be expecting staff to put themselves at risk when they go to work. they are palpably scared, their mental health is being

affected, and it is not ok. what would you say to anyone working on the front line now who, in their usual day of work, would need to wear one of these gowns, if they don't have the equipment they think is appropriate, what should they do? firstly, thank you to all of the staff who are going out today and every other day to support people in the communities in their homes, in ca re the communities in their homes, in care homes, and in hospitals. but, frankly, we cannot play with the lives of our valued workforce. they are going to work every single day to keep us safe, and yes, they welcome the fact that people have been observing social distancing measures and making their life easier, but when they go to work, they cannot be expected to put themselves in a compromising position. so i welcome what the unions have been saying, i welcome what the royal college of nursing has been saying, and people should not be expected to treat patients if they are not properly protected. so you would refuse to treat a patient

if you were not properly protected? i would never, if you were not properly protected? iwould never, ever suggest if you were not properly protected? i would never, ever suggest that a colleague treat a patient if they don't feel safe and protected. it is not in the best interest of my colleagues, and not in the best interests of the patient. if this happens, and this shortage continues, and at the moment this is a very real thing this weekend, what do you envisage in terms of patients being, or not being treated?” do you envisage in terms of patients being, or not being treated? i am so sad that we are even in this position. we were promised by the government that the nhs would have everything that it needs. we had our first coronavirus patient in january. we are now almost at the end of april. where has prior planning theme? we were told all it would take would be a herculean effort for people to get ppe. that

is falling short. it is not good enough. i am sure you understand, when matt hancock the health secretary says, "there is a global problem with ppe". the intention was there, the assumption was that there would have been enough ppe equipment for this herculean effort, but globally it just isn't for this herculean effort, but globally itjust isn't there. what can be done differently? we were told that we had it in stores in the uk. but it isn't. there is a shortage, so what is the answer?m is not about labour or conservatives, it is not about scoring political points. as an nhs front line worker, my colleagues are scared. they are not feeling safe, it is affecting their mental health. suicide rates amongst nhs staff are going up, as they are in the

community. fundamentally, there were opportunities where the government had the chance to buy ppe and they didn't. this is not about going backwards and looking backwards, that will be done at the end of this. this is about asking the government for transparency as to what they are going to do next because fundamentally we do not have what we need on the front line to keep ourselves or our patients safe, and we need to know what the plan is. simply suggesting that we reuse ppe, or treat patients without the appropriate ppe is not an acceptable plan. i am not sure when your next shift, you are on the front line. how do you feel about going to work ahead of your next shift? i really feel upset that i am hearing from my collea g u es feel upset that i am hearing from my colleagues at two o'clock in the morning, iam colleagues at two o'clock in the morning, i am getting messages saying they feel scared and they don't know what to do. my e—mail inbox and my twitter is full of nurses and paramedics writing to me

and saying i don't know what to do, i want to treat my patients, this is what i have trained to do, this is who i what i have trained to do, this is whoiam, what i have trained to do, this is who i am, but! what i have trained to do, this is who i am, but i can't put my life at risk when so many nhs colleagues have died. i can't risk taking this virus home to my vulnerable family, andi virus home to my vulnerable family, and i don't want to risk spreading it between patients. i have team members, and i have friends and collea g u es members, and i have friends and colleagues around the country who are on the macro in tears on a daily basis. we need a plan. the plan to not have ppe, or to reuse ppe is not the plan we need. and what about you? i understand that planning for a pandemic like this was never going to be easy. people could not have seen this coming, and i understand the difficulties surrounding getting the difficulties surrounding getting the appropriate ppe to where it needs to go, but i am really sad that colleagues are finding

themselves in a position where they are having to question their own professionalism and make decisions about whether to treat patients, which is what we are built to do. we are built to try and save lives. but we have seen so many colleagues died. at least 56 front line collea g u es died. at least 56 front line colleagues have died. we are burying ourfriends. we colleagues have died. we are burying our friends. we need colleagues have died. we are burying ourfriends. we need to colleagues have died. we are burying our friends. we need to feel protected at work, and it breaks my heart that i have colleagues going to work in tears at the moment. shadow ministerfor to work in tears at the moment. shadow minister for mental health, and a front line nhs worker, thank you very much for your time this morning. thank you. now, the sports news. the football world continues to pay tribute to the leeds united legend norman hunter, who died yesterday at the age of 76, after spending a week in hospital with coronavirus. hunter made more than 700 appearances for leeds over a 14—year period. he was also part of england's 1966 world cup winning squad.

as a tough—tackling defender he earned the nickname ‘bites yer legs', but his former leeds team—mate eddie gray feels he was under—rated as a player. people don't realise, you know, because of the norman ‘bites yer legs' thing that, you know — he quite liked it, actually, ithink. but i think it took away from his ability, his actual ability as a player, a great defender, great footballer. look at norman's record for leeds united, and look at him playing for england, he never got as many caps as probably as he deserved because of the great bobby moore. but he was as good as any defender who played the game. premier league clubs say they're committed to finishing the remainder of the season, but there was no confirmation of when matches will resume, after representatives from the teams met by video conference yesterday.

they were expected to talk about a deadline of the 30th ofjune for play to resume. the premier league said it "remains our objective" to complete all of the remaining 92 matches, but currently "all dates are tentative". meanwhile, arsenal's players are likely to become the first in the premier league to agree to a pay cut. the squad will take a 12.5% wage reduction, but will be reimbursed if they qualify for next season's champions league or the 2021—22 competition. arsenal were in ninth place in the premier league when the season was stopped because of the coronavirus. england all—rounder moeen ali has hinted that he could return to test cricket after a self imposed absence. ali told the guardian that, when cricket resummed, he would probably be ready to play test cricket again if he were to get a call—up. he

there is some live sport going on in britain, just not as we know it. the professional darts corporation has come up with the novel idea of broadcasting matches from players' homes. this is pdc world champion peter wright playing against peterjacques from his bedroom in yorkshire. every player with a tour card can take part across 32 consecutive nights — doesn't quite have the atmosphere of the alexandra palace. snooker's world championships should have been getting under way at the crucible theatre in sheffield this morning, but, of course, it's now been postponed and it's yet to be rescheduled. the financial implications of not playing can really affect some of the lower ranked players on the circuit and 2010 world champion, neil robertson, has offered to help out. the world championship holds a lot of importance for those players. that first round in a qualifying can kind of help them get through the summer, and get ready for the next season.

if anyone needed my help or anything like that, then i would be willing to do that. i would certainly be willing to cover their first—round appearance fee or something like that to help get through these first couple of months, until we can actually play. and finally, we're all trying to find ways to occupy our time during the coronavirus lockdown, and sports stars are no different. rangers manager steven gerrard has decided to give his son some extra coaching, while he's been spending more time at home. and he hasn't been holding back. the former liverpool captain, flying into some of these tackles! he's certainly not easing him into the game! but i do think if there were to be a card, it should have gone to the three—year—old, not steven gerard. leo is three years old. i would like to hear a commentary for that!

here's louise with a look at this morning's weather. she is coming up in a few minutes. we need to be a little bit careful around the masterchef winner, who we will speak to in a few moments. if you didn't see already and you don't wa nt to you didn't see already and you don't want to know, just look away. not quite yet! yes, it was on yesterday. we will talk to the winner about that. it is really interesting in these times of the things that you start to utilise for things that you start to utilise for things that you didn't know they we re things that you didn't know they were for. 3d printers have been making ppe for nhs staff working on the front line.

you get your headband, and your acetate and then punch some holes in it. and there you go. there is your finished mask. this is not your average eight—year—old. she is using her passion for technology to help stop the spread of coronavirus.” started using a 3d printer when i finished school because i wanted to help the nhs not risk their lives as much. she has spent hours using the 3d printer at home to mage visors for nhs workers exposed to coronavirus. over time i have learnt how to use it and i am quite confident with it. a love for technology runs in the family. her grandmother is a teacher and got her involved. i asked her, how do you feel about making these visors to

help out, and she jumped at the chance. i said we have got no materials. she said, i can use my pocket money. she literally does the day shift. as soon as it finishes, we day shift. as soon as it finishes, we change and i do the night shift. practice is paying off. each advisor ta kes practice is paying off. each advisor takes over an hour to make, and so far she has made 70. the product has been cleared by the local hospital so it can be used by front line staff. the people who are using the masks have said that they feel very co mforta ble masks have said that they feel very comfortable and they feel very protected in them. her hard work is certainly being appreciated. today, she received a surprise thank you. my name is liam and i am a bored manager in london. i am wearing a visor that you kindly made and donated to us here. we just wanted to say a big thank you for your kind support and donation to us. on behalf of the whole team here in cardiology, thank you very much. with added pressure on the nhs, she

is determined to continue doing her pa rt is determined to continue doing her part and help as many people as possible. it says you are all doing a great service. eight years old and contributing. brilliant. everything is making a difference. after eight weeks of gruelling culinary challenges, the latest masterchef champion has been revealed. this is the moment to look away. watching your journey in this is the moment to look away. watching yourjourney in this competition has been an absolute i°y- competition has been an absolute joy. i hope you are proud of yourselves. because i am incredibly proud of all three of you. we have

made a decision. our masterchef champion twe nty20 made a decision. our masterchef champion twenty20 is... thomas. well done. thank you. thank you so much. what?! well done. so, let's chat to thomas right now in south london. good morning to you, thomas. i tell you what, congratulations number one. number two, those judges know what, congratulations number one. number two, thosejudges know how to drag out a pause, don't they? what is that moment lie? good morning. last night was

absolutely insane and intense. just watching it back then brought some of the emotion back from it. it is a very intense moment. it feels like a long pause on tv, but in real life it feels a lot longer when you are waiting to find out who the champion is. you have known since december, haven't you? you have had to keep this a secret. yes, it has been a huge secret to keep. literally every one of my friends and family have asked and i, yes, it is hard to keep it but you just have to put it to the back of your mind and wait for it to be revealed live on tv for actually to become real. it has been four months of trying to keep it a secret. i have just four months of trying to keep it a secret. i havejust about four months of trying to keep it a secret. i have just about managed it. i nearly slipped upjust before the show last night. i managed to saveit the show last night. i managed to save it on a text message to my family at the last minute, and imply that all three of us would be doing

interviews. a big secret to keep. it is almost like the physical distancing and the new measures now probably made it a little bit easier for you to keep the secret. i don't know how you could keep the smile off your face and anyone asked you. that is very true. i haven't seen my family orfriends that is very true. i haven't seen my family or friends for two or three months, so that made it a lot easier, you are right. but they were still texting and calling, and it does just still texting and calling, and it doesjust come still texting and calling, and it does just come up still texting and calling, and it doesjust come up in still texting and calling, and it does just come up in conversation when you are talking about the episode that has been on, or they ring up saying they have just watch it. when they ask how far i got, i have to say you just keep watching. that is the stock phrase you have to keepin that is the stock phrase you have to keep in the back of your mind for friends and family. thomas, one of the funny thing is about doing interviews with people in their homes is we all get the opportunity to have a little nose. i am looking behind you and i can see quite a few

cookbooks, but what is worrying me, iam seeing cookbooks, but what is worrying me, i am seeing two bottles of champagne that appeared to be unopened. surely if not last night, what are you waiting for? i was due to have quite a big celebration with my family and friends, but because of the lockdown it has not been possible. it was quite a quiet affair with just me and my girlfriend. but we did crack open a bottle of champagne to celebrate, and they are the two that is left for the party once lockdown is left for the party once lockdown is over. glad to hear it. in these very unusual and very difficult times, with your new title of masterchef champion, do you want to give out your first bit of culinary advice to people? just about, i don't know about you, but people are thinking about food quite a lot. we need things to think about. have you

got any tips for people? it has been a complete learning curve for me. i am used to popping into the shop on my way home from work and buying fresh produce and cooking what i fa ncy fresh produce and cooking what i fancy that night, and you just can't do that. i am doing a shop probably once a week or every two weeks, so the main bit of advice isjust plan and pack, and think about in advance what you want for dinner, what you wa nt what you want for dinner, what you want for lunch, and try to work out how you can use leftovers and make more of a meal out of your ingredients thanjust more of a meal out of your ingredients than just the one. it has made me a lot more conscious about food waste, and how i can reuse stuff. i had a roast dinner last sunday, i had some cabbage left over and i turned that into a slaw with fried chicken. if you can think ahead and do a bit of planning and preparation. have a dig around into your cupboards, see what spices are lying around, and then you can start to have some fun and think about what dishes you might want to eat.”

am really pleased that our microphones are not as good enough as picking up that my stomach is rumbling, as it usually does at this point on a saturday morning. so, what is on the menu today? what will you cook today? i don't think you can ever think about food too early in the day. on the menu today, i am actually doing the scampi that i did in the finals, albeit with cod, not monkfish. it will have fennel pickle. that will be the lunchtime snack for today. i haven't thought about dinner yet. we stocked up on alcohol for the celebration, rather than the food for the din of the day after. lunch is sorted, i need to think about dinner. no one is judging you at all for how much

alcohol you stock up on. a fancy lunch, there is a standard in your household. not ordinary dinners. do you know what? day today it is, it is very much meat and fish and two veg. but the reason why i was doing the scampi is because i have been reliving all the dishes i did throughout the competition, and staging them and photographing them for social media. that's the reason why the scampi is on the menu for lunch. but day—to—day, it is very much grilled salmon, asparagus, whatever kind of takes our fancy on the day. the reality check that we all have to bear in mind at the moment, and this is relevant for you now, you didn't know you were going to win, but you have one, and you might have been thinking the restau ra nt might have been thinking the restaurant business, find work doing that, and clearly at the moment it isa that, and clearly at the moment it is a difficult time. yes. it is a

real shame what has happened to the restau ra nt real shame what has happened to the restaurant and hospitality industry because of the lockdown, and it has definitely had an effect on my potential plans, at least in the short term. i am very much a realist. up to this point, i consider myself a home cook, i am not a professional chef, said to even think about opening a restau ra nt even think about opening a restaurant in the future, i need some training and some mental ship, and professional kitchen experience. but that is not possible at the moment. even after the lockdown, the amazing chefs out there, they are going to have to bring their own teams back up to speed and get customers back into their restau ra nts. customers back into their restaurants. i think it will be a few months yet before i can really start to think about a career change, or changing direction. for the moment, i will still be working in finance. it has been lovely talking to you. we congratulate you.

thank you very much and enjoy your day. looking forward to that food. and enjoy the champagne. what a lovely man. we are going to talk to louise now and find out what is happening with the weather. there is rain around at the moment across central and southern parts of england and it will steadily drift northwards. elsewhere we have got a lovely weather on offer across scotland, northern ireland and northern england. that's where the best of the sunshine is likely to be. temperatures a little on the cool side, particularly on the exposed eastern coast. under the cloud if you keep the rain all day, you will have light and patchy rain. overnight tonight, quite a lot of cloud across england and wales. clearer skies further north, so low single figures not out of the question. further south it will be a

mild start to sunday. a much more straightforward start to sunday. a lot of dry weather expected in the forecast over the next few days, and a lot more in the way of sunshine where we haven't got it today. that easterly breeze is always going to be with us, and on the exposed coast it will be just a bit cooler. further inland, we should see 17 or 18 with some sunshine. into monday, high pressure is sitting close to scandinavia. as the wind circulates ina scandinavia. as the wind circulates in a clockwise direction, we will keep the wind coming in off the north sea, so not a particularly warm sauce. on those exposed coast it will be cooler. lots of sunshine on monday, very straight forward where the story to try to tell. a little bit of fair weather cloud out of the west and breezy, which will ta ke of the west and breezy, which will take the edge of the feel of things. but if you get into some shelter, you should get warmth coming through with temperatures peaking at 20 celsius by monday. further ahead,

very little in the way of change. tuesday and wednesday are dry, settled and sunny with a top temperature of 20 celsius. thank you, louise. the headlines are coming up.

good morning, welcome to breakfast with charlie stayt and naga munchetty. our headlines today... new guidance for frontline nhs workers — they're told to re—use special protective equipment in extreme circumstances. some hospitals say they're about to run out of special gowns used to treat coronavirus patients. flowers and scarfs have been left outside elland road as the football world pays tribute to norman hunter. the leeds united legend died yesterday at the age of 76 after being diagnosed with coronavirus. good morning, there is a north—south divide with the weather today. the best of the sunshine will certainly be across scotland and northern ireland,

some sharp showers to england and wales will slowly fade as we go through the day. it will stay rather cloudy. all the details coming up shortly. # and you'll never walk alone. aiming for the top of the charts — captain tom teams up with michael ball as his fundraising effort passes £21 million. we'll get the exclusive first look at the video of you'll never walk alone. it's saturday, april the 18th. our top story. doctors and nurses in england could be asked to re—use personal protective equipment when treating coronavirus patients. public health england has changed its guidance on the use of ppe amid warnings that some hospitals will run out of special gowns this weekend. john mcmanus reports. in this workplace, the machinists are more used to making jackets designed to withstand the british

weather, but now the staff at this barbour factory in south shields have turned their hands to personal protective equipment — ppe — vital to repel not train, —— vital to repel not rain, but the coronavirus. the company says it hopes to make around 23,000 gowns for nhs staff over a three—week period. other manufacturers havejoined in. but despite this, supplies of ppe in england — such as fully fluid—repellent gowns — will run out sometime this weekend, according to the head of nhs providers, chris hopson. what has happened is that public health england has adopted guidance about how you manage the situation any pandemic if you have a shortage of gowns or other personal protective equipment so that's why this has come about and i think it's very important to remember that this

is not a complete change in guidance, this is a temporary change in guidance until the supplies come through. a response, public health england has issued new guidance, saying that some ppe can be reused if necessary until the new supplies arrive. i don't think any health care worker should be expected to expose themselves to potential risks to their lives during the course of their work. it's a real disappointment to us that the government has been unable, even after a month, to address this progressively worsening shortage of ppe. the department of health says staff are working around the clock to solve the problem. given we have a global situation in which there is less ppe in the world than the world needs, obviously it's going to be a huge pressure point. meanwhile, the government says it has no plans to make people wear face masks in public, despite lobbying from the mayor of london, sadiq khan. the masks are compulsory

in new york, as well as the czech republic and slovakia, but the world health organization says that, apart from health workers, masks should only be worn by those who display the symptoms of covid—19 or are caring for somebody who does. john mcmanus, bbc news. let's get the latest from our political correspondent jonathan blake now. it is something we have been discussing all morning, of course, the pressure on the government to a nswer the pressure on the government to answer how this shortage has now emanated? yes, they supply a personal protective equipment has been an issue for the government since the very start of the coronavirus a crisis. and it has reached a real critical point now with the change in those guidelines reflecting a concern that there may well be a shortage in supply of specifically gowns for doctors and nurses in hospitals and other health ca re nurses in hospitals and other health care settings to wear. you had matt hancock there, out of frustration, i think, saying that this was a global

problem and he wishes he had a magic wand to solve it but it is simply an issue of huge demand and not enough supply. and so there are doctors and nurses now facing the prospect, albeit a potential one and not necessarily a relative yet, of using protective equipment which is not necessarily legal standard —— not a reality yet. and the labour shadow secretary has said the government has questions to answer. it is not about labour conservatives. it is not about going clinical points, but asa not about going clinical points, but as a front line nhs worker, my colleagues are going to work today are not feeling safe. it is affecting the mental health, we know that anecdotally that suicide rates amongst nhs staff are going up, as they are in the community. fundamentally, there were some opportunities that we have heard of any government had the chance to buy

ppe and they didn't. this is not about going backwards and looking backward, that will be done at the end of this. it is about asking the government for transparency as to what they are going to do next because fundamentally, we do not have what we need on the frightening to keep ourselves a patient say. and getting a supply of ppe under control —— we do not have what we need on the front line to keep ourselves our patient say. and getting the ppe is one of the conditions of reducing the restrictions of the lockdown. the decision conservative mps this morning adding their voices to those calls. the former leader of the conservative party sir iain duncan smith said that we need to treat the public not as children but to trust them in this process. ministers up until now had been very reluctant to get into that discussion because they do not want to detract from the

message they say is still critical for people to stay at home and stop the spread of this disease and hopefully save lives. i think it goes to show that while everyone broadly speaking, is in favour of those restrictions and understands why they are there, nobody wants them in place any longer than they have to be. indeed. thank you very much. a government scheme to release prisoners early to help jails in england and wales implement social distancing measures has been suspended after six offenders were freed by mistake. officials say the inmates, who were mistakenly let out of two open prisons in gloucestershire and derbyshire, " returned compliantly when asked to do so". the prison service said it had now strengthened its processes. the time now is seven minutes past nine. we've got a big exclusive for you here on breakfast this morning. you'll know of course that captain tom moore has already raised more than £21 million for the nhs with his sponsored walk, he has done 100 lengths of his

garden before his 100th birthday. but he's not done yet. he wants to go even further — this time by releasing a charity single with michael ball — and he's given us the first look at the video. # you'll never walk alone #. # and you'll never walk alone #. # you'll never walk alone #.

a shame to interrupt, you need to get to the critic crescendo.” haven't seen the last bit. i like the way that captain tom were dead the way that captain tom were dead the last line. —— that captain moore dead at the last line. —— sang at the last line. you might have heard the mayor of london sadiq khan on this programme yesterday, saying that wearing masks in the city should be compulsory, and calling for the government to change its advice. it's a debate that's been going on for weeks now, but what's the evidence? we can now speak to professor of primary care at oxford

university trisha greenhalgh. and jason leitch who is national clinical director for the scottish government. can we start with there is no bad time to go back to the basics. the evidence is quite complex and it is contested. let's be absolutely clear that the reason people are concerned about this is that the evidence does not all point in the same direction and what we have got to do is put together different pieces of evidence from different kinds of research. we like randomised control evidence where we randomised to half wading the masks and face coverings and have not, but that kind of evidence is not direct because nobody has done a randomised trial

in covid, they have done randomised trials in influenza prevention, influenza prevention, tb prevention, other infectious diseases. there trials have been a bit equivocal, they were often rather old, quite small, so they are rightly criticised. we had to go to other evidence like laboratory studies of how far droplets travel when you cough and also studies of the sars which causes covid. if you put that all together and laboratory studies of if you put a covering of your face, the scientific evidence stacks up face, the scientific evidence stacks up pretty well in favour of all of us up pretty well in favour of all of us awaiting a face covering when we go out to stop those infectious droplets. thank you for that. jason, you're one of those who has the task

of looking at this evidence and making recommendations for the public, in your case in scotland. take as to where you're at in relation to this debate? treasure's correct. there are levels of evidence for the things we are advising, the decision—makers today. let's great back to basics. we are trying to interrupt the transmission of the virus. so the best protection against the virus is your front door. so the best evidence we have is that you should stay at home. if your symptomatic, you should definitely stay at home. the second most important thing we have come at level one evidence, definitely works, works for everybody, is wash your hands. so never forget, the most important things on a public health level here, to save lives across the population, our stay in your house and wash your hands. on top of that, there are other things that we want to investigate, face

coverings is one of them. the scientific advisory group for emergencies has considered face masks a number of times, the who continues to monitor that evidence and the advice from both of those groups right now is that face masks in the general population, and the general population are not helpful to us. there are helpful on tiny numberof to us. there are helpful on tiny number of people who are out with symptoms. and they should not be had with symptoms. they should be at home. if that evidence changes, the first minister of scotland said yesterday, if that evidence changes, and we are expecting sage to meet again this week coming, then we will of course change advice, which we have done on a number of elements throughout this pandemic. just listen to what jason was singer, the application, the psychological implication of wearing a mask, this is something that has been discussed, have you considered this?

there is an argument any suggestion that everyone is wearing masks, then eve ryo ne that everyone is wearing masks, then everyone feels looks and mask and are told that this is the best way to stop contracting to run a virus —— ru nabouts, then to stop contracting to run a virus —— runabouts, then the social distancing becomes more lax?” —— runabouts, then the social distancing becomes more lax? i have heard this but i think it is a strawman. i have not seen any actual evidence that people take more risks if they are wearing a face covering. imean, every if they are wearing a face covering. i mean, every time a public health measure comes out, this kind of gets pulled out. but where's the evidence question make the evidence goes in the opposite direction. for example, when the introduced seat bill wading in cars. people did not drive more recklessly, they were more aware of the safety issues —— a seat belt wearing. if anything, they do have sensibly. if people are going to bring out that argument, i would like to see some scientific argument

behind it and i have not seen any paid —— evidence behind it. behind it and i have not seen any paid -- evidence behind it. some people may be mystified and look at our close neighbours and see that other countries are doing a different thing, here, for example is khan, saying yesterday that he had seen evidence that convinces him, and he is onlya had seen evidence that convinces him, and he is only a politician, —— for example sadiq khan, that we people cannot be sure. that is the problem, charlie. it is difficult to be sure. because of this epidemic, we are be sure. because of this epidemic, we are exposing signs to the public, which i think is a good thing and sometimes science and clinical medicine and other areas of behavioural science are not clear. let me go back to the two things that are clear, in case i wasn't clear enough. stay at home to save lives and wash your hands. what if i said, can! lives and wash your hands. what if i said, can ijust put this into the

mix, some people might think, if in doubt, do it anyway. what is the problem with that principle? because there is a cost and he harmed everything that you do. it is not quite as simple asjust do it anyway. there will be, perhaps, a stigma to those who do not do it, they will perhaps be difficulty in... i had some conversations yesterday with those in the learning disability community who are worried that some children, some adults with disability would not be able to do it and would therefore be stigmatised out in public. there is a suggestion that putting masks on and off might make you touch your face more. so there are layers inside this challenge. and the benefits, if they outweigh the risks, we will change the advice at the who will help us decide when it has right to do that. as will our scientists and our behavioural scientists. jason, very good to speak to you this morning. thank you very much. the national clinical

directorfor very much. the national clinical director for the scottish government stop and treasure, thank you for this man, a gp and primary health ca re this man, a gp and primary health care sciences —— and thank you, tricia. it is good to go back to those with the evidence and making those with the evidence and making those decisions. it is something that we will discuss more on brea kfast. that we will discuss more on breakfast. we must try to talk to a gp around 630 m and i think it was 7:30am this morning. we will try to get many of your questions. we are talking about masks, personal care and personal health as well. try get your questions just and personal health as well. try get your questionsjust keep and personal health as well. try get your questions just keep those coming in. it is 70 minutes past nine. this morning, charlie, do you wa nt to nine. this morning, charlie, do you want to know one of my problems? here. the haircut problem. i mean, you obviously take great care over your hair. i am concerned about how i'm going to get my haircut. it is

not just humans who i'm going to get my haircut. it is notjust humans who are willing about this. this is a proper real problem that people are thinking about. you're thinking specifically about. you're thinking specifically about dogs because dogs have been mentioned. louise mentioned her dog. we cannot... sometimes things get mentioned in the programme and we cannot leave them. i opened my big mouth, charlie, an hourago. cannot leave them. i opened my big mouth, charlie, an hour ago. you told us that she had given your dog a home haircut and we asked for the evidence. are you ready? she was quite chilled, actually. she was quite chilled, i was the one that was nervous. it was a bit scrappy. this picture is edited a little bit. i wasn't very good at the feet because it was a bit scary. so you have actually hidden the

hairdressing skills?” have actually hidden the hairdressing skills? i am not an expert, but i think that has a pretty good job. you should have seen what my boys did at 19 and 21 to each other. it is just awful. i refuse to do their hair, but i did the dogs. the weather today, you probably will need to spend some time indoors finding jobs to do across england and wales. some rain around at the moment. some of it has been quite heavyin moment. some of it has been quite heavy in the last hurrah. we have seen an inch or so of rain falling in one or two places through the night —— in the last hour or so. it looks like that rain will continue to bea looks like that rain will continue to be a nuisance for some of us. that comes as welcome news, for some of us, some areas of england have not seen rain for four weeks. it is a different story for scotland, northern ireland, a glorious day today, lots of sunshine. a little bit of cloud to the east and that will melt away, seeing some lovely

sunshine throughout the day. it will be cooler on that east coast because of the easterly breeze and underneath the cloud and rain, temperatures are struggling just a little. highest values will be done in the south of 16 celsius. and we see those temperatures on the plus side, really, as we go to the nature night. quite a lot of colouring, so it will be a milestone across england and wales. we do get some brea ks england and wales. we do get some breaks in scotland. the figures, not out of the question, but has been eve nter out of the question, but has been eventer tomorrow, it will be a quieter and more straight forward to. the cloud will start to ease away, lots of sunshine coming through, it will be a dry day across the board, just that easterly breeze will be with us for the next few days. on the expose nursing course, a little bit cooler. further inland, 18 or 19 celsius. high pressure is going to be with his right throughout the week. it will be sitting in scandinavia and as the winds circulate in a clockwise direction, that means that the breeze will always come in off the

north sea so never a particularly warm sauce. we will see some sunshine around on monday —— warm sauce. it will be gusting to 30 mph. this is the means of speed, but the costs at 30 to 35 mph. that will make it feel that bit cooler. in the sunshine with a bit cooler we should see 20 sketch make more dry u nsettled see 20 sketch make more dry unsettled weather to come in the remainder of the week. —— and settled weather. the time is 921m if you have not been watching on social media or the papers you will not have seen the story. it is time to catch up. it's been the inspirational story of the week that has captured our hearts — here on breakfast we watched captain tom moore complete his challenge to walk 100 laps of his garden to raise more than £21 million for the nhs. he wanted to raise £1000 originally.

you may raise £1000 originally. remember that, after his extraordinary achievement, he received some very special congratulations from the singer michael ball. let's take a look. # and you'll never walk alone. # and you'll never walk alone. # you'll never walk alone. you may have seen captain tom singing along and mouthing along,. tom and michael have now teamed up, and released a charity single of you'll never walk alone, recorded with the "nhs voices of care choir". they're hoping to reach number one in the official uk charts before tom turns 100 on 30 april.

we can speak to michael now. good morning, michael.” good morning, michael. i am all right. just got back from walking the dogs. that is the exact moment i got the idea, literally. you saw him mouthing along to it, singing along? isaid to mouthing along to it, singing along? i said to him, we should make it a duet and i came off air and i said to him, we should make it a duet and i came offairand i thought, yes, i have got a few minutes, let's see if we can do this, made some calls, called my re cord this, made some calls, called my record producer said, have we got a track we can put together? i had the idea that the nhs voices of care could form the background voice. crucially, was talking to tom and hannah and because we are all over the place and isolating i had to get tom to speak the words and then sing the words into his phone and that was sent to me and i did it in my

front room, all the quire did it individually around the country when they were off shift —— the choir. we did it in to others. i cannot quite believe it. good news that we brea kfast believe it. good news that we breakfast gets the opportunity to get a proper look at the video and the song itself. i haven't seen it yet. have you got to screen? look now. # though your dreams be tossed and blown. # work on. # work on. # work on with open your heart. —— walk on with hope in your heart. # and you'll never walk alone.

# and you'll never walk alone. # you'll never walk alone. # you'll never walk alone. # and you'll never walk alone. # and you'll never walk alone. # you'll never walk alone. # you'll never walk alone. oh, michael. ijust # you'll never walk alone. oh, michael. i just saw your bottom # you'll never walk alone. oh, michael. ijust saw your bottom lip quivering there. that's amazing. thank you to everyone who helped to put it together. nick patrik my producer and steve softly lets us make fabulous, fabulous. and isn't tom extraordinary? i don't have words for him, i really don't. it is

one of those things, whatjoy words for him, i really don't. it is one of those things, what joy do today? i have sung to many men, do i sit in eat another packet of chocolate buttons — — sit in eat another packet of chocolate buttons —— sung to him. or doi chocolate buttons —— sung to him. or do i try to do something? make the assumption that you ate another packet of buttons as well. when it was finally finished and we piece the song together because we wanted to get it over to zoe's breakfast radio show, listening to it for the first time and tom and hannah were there, there was an extraordinary reaction. sol there, there was an extraordinary reaction. so i broke down and cried. i think it is making everybody cry a bit. it has a funny old time, isn't it? you have these waves of emotion high is when you kind of try to be grateful for what you do have and then those when you think, i miss my

friends or i miss my usual routine. . one of the things that struck me and i'm sure this is why this has happened is when you see stories like tom's they just happened is when you see stories like tom's theyjust touch your heart and you feel there is a momentum that gives you something, doesn't it? yes. it is like we need to focus. we'll have less energy. we all have this desperate desire to help, to help, to do something —— this energy. or to focus on something positive, something that can bring people together and tom embodies it, embodies everything that we feel pride in this country but. one of the vulnerable people in this country, decent, articulate, witty, special man. surrounded by an extraordinary family and he, for me anyway, has become a kind of symbol of this time and someone we can focus on to help. and that idea that

maybe i could help in getting number one record on his 100th birthday, which is where the idea for this came from, as well as the song because he speaks it, sings it's so well but can you imagine if on that thursday when we are all clapping aside for tom and the nhs, and tom is at numberone aside for tom and the nhs, and tom is at number one in the charts... that would be kind of amazing. we need something. yes we need something positive. you'll be lucky to chat to tommy little bit and one of the things that it always strikes me is that the id was within the family and when you speak to him, the very first thing he says is thank you. to those nhs people helped in the past and are helping other people now. he has that wonderful thing of being very humble

and he didn't do this have all this attention, for the one reason and thatis attention, for the one reason and that is what he will tell you. and that is what he will tell you. and thatis that is what he will tell you. and that is what he will tell you. and that is what we should as well. this is the reason. i have done this, i hope for the right reasons because this is what i can hopefully contribute to tom's journey and we can all contribute to following his example by setting an example by doing what we're meant to do and are spreading positivity and he has an extraordinary man. he is the best of us. we need cymbals like him and we are going to need them more and more as the weeks go by and by —— we need symbols like him. i'm very proud to be part of the story that will be a positive study of the pandemic. we have interviewed you lots of times

before and spoken about singles that we re before and spoken about singles that were being released any music and things have been involved in, but there is a different tone to it on though, isn't their quest to make absolutely. we're kind of protecting each other... this is nothing to do with me. ijust happen to have an idea that i thought, maybe i can pull this off by bringing people who i know in the business. in turn this round. if people were to buy it, to download it, then a lot of money could be raised. in amongst all the people that we have talked to, front—line workers, they like to smell, like to have a laugh at the same time and this is a very emotional thing with tom and what is going to do, can ask a flippant question about the home hairdressing thing? i did notice. i have become grizzly adams, haven't i?” thing? i did notice. i have become grizzly adams, haven't i? iwasn't going to see it. i say, lessing, who cares, i will not share, i will not

cut my hair, it is what it is.” tell you what, it has been lovely talking to and what i will tell you is there is a reason charlie asked that question because i think that charlie feels a little bit threatened in the hair was. this is the real colour. lovely talking to you, well done. feel good about it. take care. leech people all over the country have been showing their support for captain tom by walking their own gardens and posting messages of appreciation. hello, captain tom. my name is harry. i just wanted

hello, captain tom. my name is harry. ijust wanted to say hello, captain tom. my name is harry. i just wanted to say thank you for helping the nhs. well done, captain. thank you, captain tom. # you'll never walk alone thank you, captain tom. # you'll never walk alone #. # you'll never walk alone #. and if that inspires someone to post something as lovely as that, then

why not? matt tebbutt takes over in the saturday kitchen. that is really emotional, and then suddenly you jumped to me. isn't it surprising how captain tom has touched the hearts of so many people. all these people doing amazing things. it is changing outlooks, isn't it? absolutely. if there are any positives to be had out of this scenario, that is certainly one of them. that is going to be the torchbearer, isn't it? that is the thing that people will rememberfrom this, that is the thing that people will remember from this, how people reacted to the situation, like captain tom. it isjust reacted to the situation, like captain tom. it is just phenomenal. there is still normality out there. you guys are still doing your thing. we were talking to the winner of masterchef. all desperate for ideas for food. you are providing that service now. thank you, nice link.

our special guest today is stacey. you are at home, of course. thank you forjoining us this morning. you are shooting a lockdown show about a coronavirus at the moment. you have got a show on tomorrow night about being locked in on bbc two. that's right, exactly. what is in your cupboards? i have had a rummage in my cupboards, and actually there was something in there and i said, i have got this, i have got that, but the halloumi has disappeared. brilliant. where has it gone?m the halloumi has disappeared. brilliant. where has it gone? it is in kevin 's stomach. did he not get the memo about the ingredients? there was a little section in the fridge that was not meant to be

touched, i don't know what to tell you. paul, is yours involving chocolate? yes, and salmon. that is weird. do stay tuned, it gets better. helen is also at home and she is talking us through wine. hello, maps, how are you? yes, a little bit emotional. we still want you to vote on two dishes i could make using stacey ‘s ingredients, so go to the website for voting details and we will see you at telly. a roller—coaster of emotions. look after yourself.

hello, this is breakfast with charlie stayt and naga munchetty. coming up before 10am, louise will have the weekend's weather. but first, a summary of this morning's main news. doctors and nurses in england could be asked to treat coronavirus patients without fully protective gowns and to reuse equipment. public health england has changed its guidance on the use of protective clothing amid warnings that some hospitals will run out of long—sleeved gowns in one or two days. the advice has been condemned by the british medical association and the royal college of nursing. president donald trump has defended his tweets in which he appeared to endorse protests against stringent lockdown measures in several us states,

saying some were "too tough". earlier, he wrote in a series of tweets: "liberate minnesota", "liberate michigan" and then "liberate virginia". health officials say the curbs, including the stay—at—home orders, are needed to halt the spread of coronavirus. a government scheme to release prisoners early to help jails in england and wales implement social distancing measures has been suspended — after six offenders were freed by mistake. officials say the inmates, who were mistakenly let out of two open prisons in gloucestershire and derbyshire, " returned compliantly when asked to do so". the prison service said it had now strengthened its processes. those are the main stories this morning. a group of running mums have begun delivering prescriptions to patients while out on their daily jog, as a way of supporting vulnerable people who are having to isolate. mel bound, the group's founder, said she kick—started the initiative when she realised she had access to 100 local runners who were willing to help struggling

pharmacies with their deliveries. mike's been finding out more. they are mums on a run... thank you very much. ..on a mission to get prescriptions and medications to those in isolation who can't get to the chemist themselves. so here i am, just been to the pharmacist's, so i've picked up my package here. christine and jess are among 250 mums in bristol now waiting for the call to run to a pharmacy, collect what's needed and deliver it. they normally run together as part of the this mum runs group, but after their regular group runs were stopped due to the lockdown, this is helping them to keep active, albeit running alone. i've got my hand sanitiser and i've got my running trainers. it's really lovely on a personal level in terms ofjust having the opportunity to get out of the house and go and do something

nice. i think everyone feels pretty helpless in this scenario and pretty out of control and it is nice to be able to just do one small thing that helps. and they're helping people like jennifer get the medication they need. it's brilliant. because i think, at the moment, i think time is terrible. you know, what's happening to the country is awful. we just can't believe it. it's like... well, it's like something out of the comics. it'sjust not real. knock three times and then you answer the phone and they stand back, you answer the door, they stand back — brilliant. lovely smile, five minutes natter and they're gone again. the nhs has now started a similar delivery service to help pharmacists who had a big problem until, in bristol, those running mums came to the rescue.

that was vulnerable, at—risk patients going to already overstretched pharmacists and putting themselves in greater danger. some of them had multiple health complaints. the message was not really getting across to them and they would be looking at me and saying, well, what do i do? i cannot expect you to be coming and dropping medicines off at 8:30pm in the evening, as i was doing to help them. i think it was nice, but we had to say, well, we have a community that can help you, so it is a real credit to the angels that run from this mum runs. they really are saving lots of life. this mum runs were started by mel five years ago and has now got 100,000 mums running across the country, so when help was needed in bristol, there was an army ready to go. some of the headlines have been things like mum runners turned drug runners. so, you know, obviously notoriety is great, but aside from that,

there is a really serious message, not only are we able to support the vulnerable in our society to get prescriptions to theirfront door, but it is actually a lifeline for us as much as by the patients that we are supporting so they are absolutely loving it, volunteers are loving it. i'm a mission control this morning and we have a mailbox here where the pharmacies can e—mail us with any requests and i can see we have just got a request in from bedminster pharmacy. i will have a look at the address and i can see that the postcode are similar to one of the ladies that we have on road this morning. got that, thanks, i'm on my way now. there was a smiling runner by my gate, my inhaler next to the front door, we had a little chat and it was lovely. at the end of each day, the team have a catch up. what

mileage did you do today? not much, about 2.5 miles. a nice, short one. they hoped the delivery service can now be expanded to some of the 60 other regions so that more can get out and help the community as part of their daily exercise. seeing posters like this at the side of the road it makes me feel proud to be pa rt road it makes me feel proud to be part of something so great and be a pa rt part of something so great and be a part of something so great and be a part of helping to save lives. we're joined now by rachaeljames from "this mum runs" and pharmacist ade williams, who you just saw in mike's report. welcome to you both this morning. you are in your pharmacy this morning, obviously. first of all, whenever we speak to key workers, and you off course are one of those people, you are doing important work

at the moment, and i think you would probably be the first to say any help you can get in terms of delivery is great. how does it work in practice? thank you very much. it has been a trying time for community pharmacies. as you have said, for a long time we have been the un—hailed heroes working in the background of the health care system, and during this crisis we have come to the forefront. it has been tough, but with efforts around our community to support us we are getting through, so myself and my team, and i support us we are getting through, so myselfand my team, and i am sure many colleagues, are coping well because we will do anything for our patients. it is lovely to be able to help, rachel, isn't it? it is such a good idea. and so simple. what is the feedback you are getting, and the feedback you are getting, and the runners are getting, from patients receiving these deliveries? it isjust patients receiving these deliveries? it is just absolutely brilliant. the people we are delivering prescriptions too are so grateful

for our help. you know, ithink prescriptions too are so grateful for our help. you know, i think they quite like to see a friendly face, just to say hello to as wealth, obviously from a safe distance. it isa obviously from a safe distance. it is a real lifeline to them, and it is a real lifeline to them, and it is such a great thing for us to be pa rt of is such a great thing for us to be part of as well, to feel like we are helping our community. plus, we are getting out and running ourselves, which benefits us mentally, our health and well— being which benefits us mentally, our health and well—being as well. which benefits us mentally, our health and well-being as well. and the caveat, of course, is the safe distance in, the physical distancing. there must be certain guidelines in place that you are following because often the people who need these medicines are not well anyway. yes, exactly. we have a strict process that we follow. we will sanitise our hands regularly when we do the delivery, and we will place the package on the doorstep. we will then knock on the door and step back two metres at least, and then we wait for the patient to open

their door, so we can check that they have received it. it is all very safe for them, and for us. anyone who knows bristol will know there are some quite big hills, so are certain routes more popular than others? yes, there are. wejust are certain routes more popular than others? yes, there are. we just go wherever the need is. others? yes, there are. we just go whereverthe need is. if others? yes, there are. we just go wherever the need is. if it means running upa wherever the need is. if it means running up a hill, then we will run up running up a hill, then we will run upa running up a hill, then we will run up a hill, orwalk running up a hill, then we will run up a hill, or walk it if we have to. we are not afraid of hills. as you say, bristol is hilly in places, but that does not faze us. tell us about the kind of people who are feeding back to you about the benefits of this. obviously they are getting their medicines and prescriptions, but it is contact, seeing someone else. just that human contact, even if it is not physical. yes, and one of the things that i am happy that you mentioned, when we were designing the service, we paid

particular attention to making sure that what was a good idea was also something that for me as a pharmacist who is in a very highly regulated profession would be something i would be comfortable about, and also for the safety of the volunteers. we were conscious for the groups of people that are engaging with our service, many of them are like captain tom or margaret that you have spoken to today. they don't want to be a burden on anyone. they are very reticent to ask for help. we wanted to have something for them that was sustainable, but also not crippling, and also this social contact. the community pharmacy is also a community pharmacy is also a community hub. the health care we provide goes beyond providing medicines. for many people the lack of co nta ct medicines. for many people the lack of contact is a pain for them, and a painfor of contact is a pain for them, and a pain for us. having the group of runners go there and feedback to us that someone like jennifer

runners go there and feedback to us that someone likejennifer is doing fine, it gives us a lot of reassurance. we get a lot of family members calling the pharmacy saying they are speaking to their relatives, but how are they doing? a lot of comments i have had about this service is not only am i working to provide care in a way i can feel comfortable about, but i am also able to assure myself, and lots of relatives that their relatives are doing fine. if they need help, they know they can reach out to us without feeling that they are a burden. lovely to talk to you this morning. good luck today and thank you for all the work you are doing. and rachel, good to catch up with you. i hope you enjoy the running. it is the perfect situation. absolutely perfect. here's louise with a look at this morning's weather. good morning. talking of perfect,

ta ke good morning. talking of perfect, take a look at this. just recapping with some early morning weather watchers. this was the western isles around an hour ago. a beautiful morning, hardly a cloud in the sky. sadly not quite as beautiful in surrey. we have seen some rain around, and through the night it has been heavy in a few places. welcome for the gardens out there, desperate for the gardens out there, desperate for some rain. that is starting to move up through the midlands and into wales. it will weaken as it pushes towards north wales and parts of yorkshire during the afternoon, but they will be a lot of clout with it as well. the best of the weather today in northern ireland, northern england and scotland. fairweather cloud across the east coast is already breaking up, lots of sunshine coming through, and just a nagging easterly wind which is pegging temperatures back. 13 celsius not out of the question. if we get breaks in the cloud down to the south, we might see 15 celsius. a bit disappointing in terms of the

feel of the weather. not disappointing overnight, it will be relatively mild with all the cloud. the exception will be if we get some brea ks the exception will be if we get some breaks in scotland. tomorrow will be a much more straightforward day. lots of sunshine coming through, a dry story for all of us. that easterly wind is still going to be there, but that will help push the cloud back to the west. it could be disappointing for northern ireland and the western fringes of wales and south—west england, but temperatures around 18 celsius, so warmer for tomorrow. high pressure will stay with us right throughout next week. it will sit over scandinavia, so the wind will always come off the north sea. a cool source, really, and we need to factor that in. but there will be dry weather and a lot of sunshine in the forecast, as you can see on monday. the wind will be gusting in excess of 30 mph in one or two places, which will take the edge of things, so if you live further west and your garden is

sheltered, you might see temperatures at 20 celsius, 68 fahrenheit. it is pretty much a repeat performance as we go into tuesday and wednesday. no rain in the forecast, lots of sunshine. factor in the wind and it is still pleasa nt factor in the wind and it is still pleasant enough. thank you, louise. lots of talk about having a big night in. this is a one night only opportunity. we have so lenny henry joining us this morning. tell us a little bit about this big night in. it is going to be fantastic. it is an opportunity for comic relief and children in need to get together and raise money and show support for all

the fantastic key workers who have been working to help people less fortu nate been working to help people less fortunate than themselves in this terrible crisis. it is amazing, we come together in times of need to raise money to help each other, and this is one of those times. the british public is brilliant. we are going to ask, like captain tom, ask eve ryo ne going to ask, like captain tom, ask everyone to see if they can raise some money. even if you can't donate, just watch. it will be three hours of a huge amount of fun. all your favourite people will be on. it is going to be a fantastic night of entertainment, and it isjust so is going to be a fantastic night of entertainment, and it is just so the key workers and care workers know we really respect what they are doing. just like captain tom, we will try to raise some money. a lot of the projects we support have come to us and said that they are really struggling in this time, they need

our help. we are going to try to raise money for things like their share, the food distribution company which is trying to expand their operation. and also a company that children in need supports called emergency essentials which helps vulnerable children all over the uk. these are great projects which need our support. that's what it is all about. and the big news is that peter kaye is going to do a recut of his video, and you need to send us a landscape video of you doing a famous road to amarillo stopped in front of the camera. film yourself, upload it to social media to hashtag big night in amarillo. if you do it

between now and the 23rd, you could between now and the 23rd, you could be in the video. get it done as soon as possible. fabulous. it is brilliant that peter kayeis fabulous. it is brilliant that peter kaye is coming back. we have got brilliant hosts, including zoe ball and divina mccall. it is going to be so different, though, in terms of we are so used to seeing these big extravaganzas in a studio, lots of people together. i know. iwill be in the one show studio on my own. we will be physically distant. i have got to be sanitised before i go on. that happens here, you get used to it. i will be sprayed down before i come on air. can we watch that? i think everyone would like to see that! the bbc remote cameras. operated from three miles away. we

are all going to be socially distant and then we will do a bit and move away from each other, and then nearly everybody else is doing stuff from home, orfrom a remote location. steve coogan and rob brydon are doing the trip. all sorts of people are doing things. kath tate will be on with david tennant. all of these people are giving their time for nothing. just to support the key workers working so hard, and to try to raise a bit of money. it will be a corking night. you are talking about technology, i don't know what technology you have got in your house, the picture we are getting from your home this morning is fantastic. it is almost like we are watching a film movie. you have got something sorted out there.” just need small children to run in

the back of shot now, or a horse to walk in. i like those videos when the children walk in. but no kids here. how is it going on lockdown? a lot of people are struggling.” think we are very lucky. we have got a telly, got a backyard. but i grew up a telly, got a backyard. but i grew up in a telly, got a backyard. but i grew upina a telly, got a backyard. but i grew up in a house where there was a tiny backyard. i understand what that is about. it is this important thing of physical distancing, getting your exercise, and not going nuts. watching tv, watching things that are interesting, notjust soaps. i like david attenborough. try to learn something. what am i doing question mark i am doing grade five music theory. it is really hard. you can do that. i am ringing brandon from university challenge because he knows about everything. trying to do

something that gets your brain working. where is the money going to go that will be raised? we have had a lot of smaller projects ring and get in touch with children in need saying they are struggling, so it will go to projects all across the uk, small charities that need a boost at this time. thursday is the big night in. it isjust before, i was getting confused because i thought it was captain tom ‘s birthday but that is the week after. everyone is talking about him. these things are going to lift us. captain tom, they should at least make him a major so he can be major tom, don't you? good luck with your

show on thursday. and don't forget to send in your video. upload it to social media and peter kay will do the rest. brilliant, landscape not portrayed. what i like about lenny henry, the first thing he says is "how are you question ?". we are talking about the exclusive we have had on breakfast. we have been talking about captain tom who has raised more than £21 million for the nhs because he has teamed up with michael ball for a charity single. we spoke to michael ball earlier on and we were lucky to have been given the first play of the video.

# you'll never walk alone #. # you'll never walk alone #. # you'll never walk alone #. just a brilliant man. and michael ball was so emotional talking about him. they have got a lovely

friendship, and the money will be used for charity. that's all from us this morning. we are back tomorrow at 6am. goodbye.

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