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hello. this is bbc news with james reynolds. we'll be taking a look at tomorrow mornings papers in a moment with anne ashworth and john rentoul — first the headlines. as hospitals warn that stocks of personal protection equipment is running low — a new delivery to replinish stocks due to arrive today — has been delayed. we has been delayed. are doing everything we can to bring we are doing everything we can to bring as much ppe in right from across the globe. we recognise it's across the globe. we recognise it's a big challenge. the education secretary gavin williamson also said schools won't reopen until the uk meets its five tests, but he added there were no plans to have them open over the summer. staff at the nightingale hospital built in london to treat covid—19 patients — discharge their first patient. more protests are being held in state capitols across the us — calling for governors to re—open economies which were shut down as a response to the coronavirus pandemic. spain is preparing to ease
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its lockdown measures, by allowing children to go outside again before the end of the month. but italy's restrictions remain in place, and the number of daily fines for illegal outdoor activity is on the rise. hello and welcome to our look ahead to what the the papers will be bringing us tomorrow. with me are anne ashworth, who writes for the times and sunday times, and john rentoul, chief political commentator of the independent newspaper tomorrow's front pages, starting with the telegraph newspaper says that two thirds of children fail to log on for their school classes from home. the i wants britain leads with the message that labour and the government want the country
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to hold a minutes silence for nhs workers who have lost their lives due to the pandemic. france's le figaro looks at one of the biggest questions the scientific community is grappling with — how long does immunity last for those who have recovered from covid—19? and in the japan times — the issue of whether to take stronger measures and close businesses is causing debate after the country's first weekend under a state of emergency. britain's the times says that the prime minister is resisting calls to ease the lockdown. the mirror lead with the story that a shipment from turkey to the uk of ppe for hospital workers has failed to turn up. and singapore's straits times leads with the start of a mandatory two—week self—isolation for 180 thousand foreign construction workers and their families — part of new efforts to curb the rising number of infections. so let's begin... and, john, i should say that we are
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going to talk for as long as we can, but bearing in mind that there is an empty lectern at the white house which will soon be occupied by president trump, mike pence, doctor faucl president trump, mike pence, doctor fauci, the usual team, and i'm afraid that they will take priority over you. so we will see how much we can get through. we will start with the times newspaper. pm resists easing of lockdown. anne, boris johnson may be off work, but it looks like lines are coming out suggesting what his thoughts are. it's very interesting. it looks as if borisjohnson it's very interesting. it looks as if boris johnson is it's very interesting. it looks as if borisjohnson is beginning to reassert himself, even though he is convalescing, and we are told that he's not going to return to ten downing st for some it seems as though he is deciding to take more control of exactly when lockdown ends, and it's quite clear that he thinks it would be far too risky at present to ease the restrictions. now, this is counted everything that we've been hearing earlier in the
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weekends. it was almost a kind of road map for how the restrictions could be eased, but now it seems as if we are no clearer as to exactly when we will emerge from this, which has got consequences for schooling, for businesses, and for every aspect of our lives. john, i was sitting in this chair last night, all the paper seem to have a briefing from our named government officials talking about an easing of the lockdown, but now michael gove has said no easing kevin williamson, and other prime minister from checker is kevin williamson, and other prime ministerfrom checker is beginning to weigh in. that's right. ackerman is absolutely right, it's quite interesting that boris johnson who was so interesting that boris johnson who was so reluctant to impose the restrictions in the first place now seems reluctant to lift them again. the times does have some good detail, because i mean we were wondering what was going on there. so we understand that on friday, the prime minister had a two hour meeting with dominic raab and a lot
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of other people. there is quite a long list here at video. but the most interesting thing is that the prime minister's line was to be extremely cautious about lifting the lockdown. it does seem, anne, that he remains the prime minister with the power to influence, debate within his government, even though he is still recovering and not in downing street to. while he's been having his feet up, he's obviously been reading the polling data, which shows that the lockdown is very very popular with people. the british have taken to this condition much more readily than we supposed. we do see stuff about people not observing social distancing in parks and whatever, but mostly people have complied with every rule. and also the prime minister knows that he is, for the moment, following his recovery, a great deal more popular than most of
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the members of his cabinet. so we would be much more likely to fall in line with what he thinks is safe for us. line with what he thinks is safe for us. so it's going to be a very interesting test of the new increased popularity of our prime minister. let's get to a specific story now. the daily telegraph, its main story, two thirds of children failed to log for lessons, and into goes on to describe who is those two thirds might be, poorest pupils at risk of falling even further behind. the story by the education editor says that pupils in private schools are able to log on, but in poor schools, john, that is clearly not the case. yes, to be honest, i was surprised that the headline could've been written that one third of children actually do logon. so, i mean, there are obviously concerns about the attainment gap in schools, because it is going to be those sort of pupils who struggle most who are going to find it hardest to concentrate at home, they may not
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have a computer, and they may have all sorts of other things going on. yes, i think it is an anxious time, but there is no reason why most children need to log on to school activities. i mean, they can learn perfectly well by themselves, i would've thought, if they have got to parents who take an interest in them. but i can see why kevin williamson today did sound extremely worried about the prospect of a minority pupils, and that's why he's probably on the side of the cabinet ministers who wanted to lift the restrictions as soon as possible. it's interesting, anne, there is a joint experience of the country is going through, almost everyone is on lockdown, yet it looks like pupils may be going through completely different experiences at home. some able to log on and join teachers,
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others, for whatever personal circumstance, cut off from the schools that might have given them the joy of schools that might have given them thejoy of their schools that might have given them the joy of their lives. well, i think that we are acknowledging that we are not really all in this together. if i was quite interesting that children in private school seem to be able to follow lessons online because perhaps they have better it kits at home and better wi—fi, and it's quite clear that our educational inequalities that we already have in this country are going to be further deepened by this process, because these are months of useful learning that children are missing out on. and remember, no matter how much you love your children and you wish for them to get on, there is a great many people at home trying to hold down a job as well as having to home—school their children. now, itend well as having to home—school their children. now, i tend to think of work as people need to be able to
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dedicate themselves to their work, and education from a being a teacher isa and education from a being a teacher is a job. it's not something that somebody can do while they're trying to have... get on with their work and keep that job. to have... get on with their work and keep thatjob. i mean, there is some extraordinary figures in the papers tomorrow about just how many people are expecting to be furloughed or unemployed. that's 11.7 million people, and you can see why kevin williamson wants to get children back to school, because it's the only way in which their parents will be able to return to work and the economy can function. this is such a multifaceted problem that you really do not envy the members of the cabinet trying to make some good decisions about it. it's interesting you mention that figure, 11.7 million, i sometimes have to sit in this chair and read figures and i almost stop as i'm reading these figures just to check i haven't made a mistake, because they are figures that we simply
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haven't seen before, and we have almost no way of understanding in one go. and that brings us to the next newspaper, the financial times, which of course keeps an eye on figures more than anybody else. its main story, "the chancellor, rishi soon, unveils £i.2 main story, "the chancellor, rishi soon, unveils £1.2 billion rescue pound for start ups as economic fears rise." he is being quoted in this article, john, as one of the cabinet ministers along with michael gove who really wants to get on with the economy. i suppose that is the chancellors job stop. the economy. i suppose that is the chancellorsjob stop. that's right. that's an interesting alignment that's developing in the cabinet there. he got rishi soon, michael gove, presumably kevin williamson as well on the one side, wanting to get back to the economy, looking something a bit more like normal. and rishi soon act has unveiled this 1.2 billion pound rescue fund for sta rtu ps, 1.2 billion pound rescue fund for startups, because they have not been
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in the huge generosity of spending public money around, they haven't actually have their beds, but now they get their turn. yes, we have got you know, and the other side, you've got matt hancock, the health secretary and the prime minister who are very cautious about winding economic activity backed up. anne, what is your thoughts of those growing divides in the cabinet. there always seems to be a cabinet split, but coming back to this issue of this fts story about this extra finance for startup firms. this comes against the background of a kind of row against the level of government to guarantee that is being given to the small business loans to keep these vital small businesses afloat. there has been a lot written in the past week about the success of the scheme in switzerland, which is 100% guaranteed by the government and you
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apply one day and you get your money the next. which will probably ensure that a great many businesses in switzerland to stay afloat. now, that's being compared very very poorly with ours, with we've got only 80% of loans are going to be guaranteed, and small businesses are going bonkers trying to get a hold of this finance. and this is all coming against the background of something that's being warned about in tomorrow something that's being warned about ii'i tomorrow cause something that's being warned about in tomorrow cause my papers of concerns over the it systems that will allow furthering it, it's so essential that money comes out to business so that there is some sort of economy left when we emerge from this. otherwise, the warnings about the depth and length of the recession that we are facing could be warning about enough really. let's go to the daily telegraph again, because there is another story i would like to pick up on. facemasks must be worn by everyone,
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say doctors, cloth facemasks should be worn by everyone, say doctors, as they launch a grassroots campaign. john, we have seen the mayor of london saying people should wear facemasks that they are using public transport, we have seen the government saying that that is not, shouldn't necessarily be the case, but they continue to look at that advice on masks. and as we were saying earlier, some of the pressure for the public seems to come from the public but more pressure for facemasks is also rising up beyond the government stop below yes, that's right. this is a grassroots campaign by doctors and they admit that they don't know, i mean, that the evidence is inconclusive on this, but doctors do no more than the rest of us, i suppose, and you increasingly see people wearing facemasks outside. it's interesting that these doctors say you know, you can make your own. i don't know how effective those are. i'm completely befuddled by this debate about facemasks. i
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suspect that they probably might help a bit. but not enough for it to bea help a bit. but not enough for it to be a recommendation from the government. you can see that the government. you can see that the government is moving in that direction. we are going to use now a focus group of one, comprised exclusively of anne. do you, anne, understand, as a normal person, the debate about facemasks, are you tempted to wear when you're so? what do you make of this story? all i would say that i compare with going shopping in the last few days with going shopping two or three weeks ago, more and more people in stores are taking it upon themselves to wear masks, both the staff and the customers. no, we see in many countries in the far east of people routinely wear masks, these are people who have been through epidemics, severe epidemics who know what it takes. and i would say that the tide of opinion is shifting, and
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that if we are to emerge from lockdown in any kind of ordered way, then we will be wearing masks. and i just think that a week from now, it will be taken as read that masks will be taken as read that masks will be taken as read that masks will be needed. however, given that we can to get ppe for our front line medical workers, where are we going to get enough masks for the nation? imean, there to get enough masks for the nation? i mean, there arejust to get enough masks for the nation? i mean, there are just so many big questions out there. of course, you can look on youtube, there are many guides about how to make a mask from an old t—shirt. you talked, anne, about emerging from lockdown. the first country that had all of this was china. we saw those pictures several weeks ago from the city of wuhan showing lockdown restriction season, although, there is this a joke next to a debate about the numbers in wuhan, but the financial times, if we can go back to its, one of the stories on the main page, fresh outbreak in china's northeast
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threatens to stall coronavirus recovery, this is talking about a cluster of cases in the northern chinese city. that is some way away from wuhan, but it does show that china is not out of the woods, john. yeah, no. it's fascinating, this. because i mean it's the huge question that, you know, the cabinet is wrestling with that borisjohnson is wrestling with that borisjohnson is pondering. you know, if he relaxes the restrictions, will there bea relaxes the restrictions, will there be a second wave of the epidemic? and will that overwhelm —— will that risk overwhelm the nhs? what's interesting about this and trying to no break in a different part of china, in the northeast corner, which wasn't particularly affected before as far as i know. what would before as far as i know. what would be alarming, i would've thought, from our point of view would be if there were a second wave in wuhan. that hasn't happened. so the question is whether there ever would bea question is whether there ever would be a second wave. in a place which
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has already had a large number of cases and death. anne, china really is at the heart of this in every way that you look at it, and, clearly, what happens in china has relevance for the rest of the world, and the fa ct for the rest of the world, and the fact that there is a cluster of cases in a different place gives eve ryo ne cases in a different place gives everyone something to think about. almost certainly and i think there is an expectation that there will be a second wave, which is why how we emerge from the lockdown and how we manage those situations is key. now, i think that we can't necessarily rely on any of the data that is coming out of china because there wasn't necessarily total sincerity at first. but these cases in the northeast are very very worrying, because this was an area where the pandemic did not seem to be so strong, and we know that viruses mutate, we don't know which type or
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variant of the virus is spreading there, or whether there was a false sense of security when the cases in the wuhan area started to abate. so this is almost a force beyond our control. we do not know its next movement on its path and destruction throughout the globe, and if it's happened in china, we will certainly have a second wave here. when it will happen or whether there will be a third or fourth wave, and it will be with us for several years. nobody is able to know, no matter how many scientists are currently working on this. we are going to go to the independent newspaper, john, we will of course there with you on this one. a surprising front page, police one. a surprising front page, police one of unrest when lockdown lifted. officers prepare for a more volatile and educated society. i had assumed that everyone was wanting to carry on the lockdown, it was actually
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pushing the government towards this, but the paper has a different perspective on this. yes, this is the president of the police superintendent saying that he is worried that once the restrictions are eased, people will want to let off stea m. are eased, people will want to let off steam. people will want to start afresh outside and especially if it's a hot summer. people will want to go outside and there might be in the police his eyes, bit of excessive exuberance. we will have to see about that. i mean, i suspect, you know, you and anne may be right from a lot of people will be right from a lot of people will be reluctant to come out and relu cta nt to be reluctant to come out and reluctant to go to work and to end the lockdown. but, you know, there may be some people who want to party like it's the end of the war. anne, what are your thoughts on this? well, i'm not quite sure what the independent is meeting here. is this going to be like trafalgar square,
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where you are dancing with a sailor and you know, we are all throwing our hats, or demonstrations of unhappiness, proper social and civic unrest by people who have been thrown out of work during the lockdown and are very very angry about their lot, lockdown and are very very angry about theirlot, and lockdown and are very very angry about their lot, and the fact that too little has been done for them. i'm not quite sure, maybe the police could be a source of both the motion. dancing in trafalgar square, ican motion. dancing in trafalgar square, i can barely imagine that at the moment. we are still, anna and john, we are moment. we are still, anna and john, we are still waiting for president trump to appearat we are still waiting for president trump to appear at the white house. he has not appeared, we are going to carry on this conversation, we are going into a new section i call the papers extra time. i have three extra papers which neither of you have read, so i'm not actually going to grill you and give you a test on the content of the paper, ijust sort of going to read out the
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headline and then we can have a generic chats given the fact that of course you have been following the papers anyway. so paper sex or time sta rts papers anyway. so paper sex or time starts from now, a new segment on bbc news, we begin with the daily mirror, you can't see, but i will be upheld thank you, john, first from a life—saving kit for nhs heroes does not turn up. the mirror is going with that story about the kids from turkey that the government talked about, which was meant to arrive today, sunday, which is apparently now going to arrive on monday, john? yeah, i cannot see it. —— i can see it. i've got the front page here. you sent it to me. i've done my homework. but, actually come as you say, it is a story that has been running all day. and it was in your headlines at the start of this segment. so, you know, we are all familiar with it, but it is still interesting because this is the
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pinch points in dealing with the coronavirus, we pinch points in dealing with the coronavirus, we were pinch points in dealing with the coronavirus, we were all expecting it to be ventilators, but it's turned out to be masks and aprons and goggles. you know, we've got this unfortunate shift that's been delayed, it looks as if it will be even more touch and go than we were expecting. anne, an interesting point to this, it was the government itself yesterday which talked about this shipment. it was the communities secretary that mentions it, and nhs supplier to and my collea g u es it, and nhs supplier to and my colleagues today that actually wasn't very useful to talk about supplies which might be coming, they are part of a larger picture, and it's much better to talk about supplies once they have physically arrived in the country, so that they can be counted and checked for quality. so in some potential way, this headline it derives exclusively from what the government had announced that this shipment was going to arrive and it hasn't. announced that this shipment was going to arrive and it hasn'tlj think it's an interesting business background here, ithink
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think it's an interesting business background here, i think in some of the papers this morning, there were stories about the way in which britain is prepared to pay for supplies. no, the marketing ppe is global because every country wants more, needs more, and is prepared to pay whatever price is asked for it. and there was some stories in the papers this morning suggesting that the nhs or whoever is attending supplies on their behalf were trying to keep to the old terms of business, the way in which one pays for supplies, and suppliers are i'm sure attempted to pay for the people who will pay cash up front, whatever money is required, and send this applies to them. now, there were some suggestions that, who knows what is happening with these 84 tonnes that are supposed to be coming in from turkey, but, we know that the materials and the skills needed to make these things are not
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infinite, and that it manufacturers are having to basically deal with the customers who give them the money up front. so, there are so many issues here that when we come to look at what happened during this pandemic, that we need to think about ordering stuff for our nhs in a timely and effective manner, and that the word stockpiling, which became such a dirty word at the beginning of this crisis has become something that we think of as extremely sensible. we are going to stay in the story of the nhs and go to the eye, whose front page says command i will read it to you, in case you don't have a secret paper there. let the nation falls silent for nhs staff who lost their lives. john, we have had clapping every thursday for the nhs workers. we have had bursts of singing. this is a new idea, to have silence for the nhs workers and to
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reflect on the toll on them. i think it's fitting, because this is, i mean, the parallels with the sacrifices made by the armed forces ina sacrifices made by the armed forces in a conflict are striking. i mean, these are people who are working for these are people who are working for the common good in the nhs and the ca re the common good in the nhs and the care services, and, you know, they are at higher risk than the rest of us are at higher risk than the rest of us of catching this thing. and of dying of it. so, yes, there is a proposalfor a minutes dying of it. so, yes, there is a proposal for a minutes silence dying of it. so, yes, there is a proposalfor a minutes silence next week, i'm not sure which day next week, i'm not sure which day next week, but we shall know and find out andi week, but we shall know and find out and i shall be observing it. week, but we shall know and find out and i shall be observing itm week, but we shall know and find out and i shall be observing it. it it's interesting anne, just to explain that this is a call made by unions which has been backed according to downing street and labour, i remember one line someone said recently a week or two ago that people in the nhs signed up to heal, they didn't sign up to die. clearly, there are investigations going on
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about the circumstances of how so many workers have caught the virus and how so many have died, but obviously, this idea of silence for those who lost their lives is hitting a court. this is one of the most sombre front pages for tomorrow, i mean they are all very serious in tone, but those are... if you remember, we talked about the faces of the fallen. the people who had died in that conflict, and these are the people who have died on the front line in the war against the coronavirus. i think it's also very interesting to see that we are going to be seeing figures for deaths based on an ethnicity, you did an interview earlier this evening about that, but the numbers of black and asian members of our health services who have died, and whether or what that means for why they catch this disease seemed to fall more previously or with you. there are just so many questions to be
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answered. but i suspect that the nation would be very happy to have a minutes silence as well as clapping for the nhs. anne, john, i thank you have done the longest papers in the evening that i've ever recalled. so metals will be in the post to both. i hope to speak to both a little later, until then, thank you so much. you are watching bbc news.
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