tv Breakfast BBC News April 21, 2020 6:00am-9:01am BST
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good morning. welcome to breakfast with louise minchin and dan walker. our headlines today: masks for the public could put nhs supplies at risk — a warning from hospital bosses as government advisers meet to review advice. "well—loved" and "hugely respected" — tributes to accident and emergency consultant manjeet singh riyat who has died after contracting covid—19. good morning. the value of american oil dipped below zero for the first time ever yesterday, reflecting the state of the global economy. what does it mean this side of the pond? i'll have the details. claims a shortage of protective
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equipment is keeping those in need out of the dentist's chair. good morning. the government rejects claims that it was too slow to cancel big sporting events. it comes after some coronavirus deaths were blamed on liverpool's champions league game against athletico madrid last month. good morning! today we are looking ata good morning! today we are looking at a briskey wind for many, it will feel chilly along the east coast but we lose the patchy rain from the south—west. i'll have more at x 20 seven a.m.. “— south—west. i'll have more at x 20 seven a.m.. —— at 27 minutes past. it's tuesday, april 21. our top story — the latest measures to tackle the coronavirus pandemic, including whether people should be told to wear masks when not at home. that will be discussed by the government's scientific advisory committee later today. nhs providers, that's the body that looks after hospital trusts in england, has warned
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this could lead to further shortages for staff, as andy moore reports. manjeet singh riyat was the uk's first sikh a&e consultant. he died at the hospital in derby where he worked. he was described as "hugely—respected" as well as "much—loved". today, expert government advisers will discuss whether the general public should wear face masks. many countries in europe have adopted the policy. the mayor of london says they should be worn on public transport. but nhs providers, the organisation that represents trusts in england, warns that masks might be in short supply for frontline health professionals if the general public are scrambling to find them. yesterday's figure for hospital deaths with coronavirus in the uk stood at 449, bringing the total to 16,509. hospital in admissions with covid are roughly stable across the country as a whole but falling in the capital.
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here in london, this is now the seventh day in a row that those numbers have fallen. so that means the balance between people going into hospital because they've fallen ill, and people who are going home because they are well again now, is in the opposite direction so that there are fewer people each day in hospital with covid. but there will be more official figures out this morning showing the number of deaths in care homes. last week's figures showed 210 deaths. many people in the care sector say the true toll numbers in the thousands. there's the blue one, putting our gowns on. parts of the nhs continue to experience problems getting a hold of personal protection equipment. over the weekend, ministers set a flight was due to arrive from turkey shortly with 400,000 much—needed downs. an raf aircraft has flown to istanbul to pick up the shipment but there is no word on when it will return. andy moore, bbc news. we will try and get more details on
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that shipment later. joining us now from westminster is our political correspondent iain watson. the government's senior scientific advisers are meeting today — what can we expect from those discussions? wearing face masks will be discussed by the scientific advisory group. there are competing claims as to the usefulness of masks being worn by the general public. it is certainly the general public. it is certainly the case that the world health organization takes the view there is no evidence to support widespread use, but some countries have been insisting or recommending their use, especially for those who may be asymptomatic and the risk of spreading infection rather than necessarily a protection for the wider public. but the concerns though if there is more demand for face masks, will that than to some extent increased risk? taking supplies away from those who really needed, including frontline service workers. —— need it.
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needed, including frontline service workers. -- need it. we know parliament resumes today, but how, in these days of social distancing? parliament, but not as we know it. it is rather modern and rather bizarre. it will set an example to the rest of the country. mps are going to be no longer packed together in the green benches. they we re together in the green benches. they were before the easter break. boris johnson and the health secretary both came down with coronavirus. so the numbers of people in the commons itself is going to be limited to 50 and other people will participate through videoconferencing. up to 120 mps. the idea is they can scrutinise ministers, ask them questions, listen to statements from government ministers, but they wouldn't yet be ina ministers, but they wouldn't yet be in a position to pass new laws because 120 mps represents just one fifth of those who would normally be present and they would have to effectively tell the speaker in
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advance if they want to take part and be on lists. they will have to have screens erected in the house of commons chamber to see who is asking the questions. so i think it this stage mps will approve these new arrangements and they will take place from tomorrow. it's interesting, from these cross—party committees of mps, there have a ready been movements to wards digital proceedings. so parliament will feel very different because of the coronavirus crisis. it really well. iain, thank you very much for that. and we will get the latest from the government on the co—owner of —— coronavirus crisis from local government minister simon clarke.
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peter bowes has more on america's situation with the coronavirus was not a surprise announcement from the president through a late—night tweet. the invisible enemy is the term president trump is used to describe coronavirus. more than 22 million americans have applied for unemployment benefits in the last month and there are fears the economic fallout from covid—19 could last for years. there are already bands on travel to the us from europe and china —— bans was that it looks as though some restrictions are being removed, designed to protect people from covid—19. in florida, gyms, bowling alleys and has a long as we back in business,
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and from next week, restaurants. some beaches have been open. in phoenix, arizona, demonstrators ran out of patience and demonstrated the —— against the state was my continuing order to remain at home. the president said coronavirus testing was increasing and he has highlighted support he received from the governor of new york. highlighted support he received from the governor of new yorklj highlighted support he received from the governor of new york. i want to draw your attention to governor cuomo's remarks during his press conference today. he said testing is up conference today. he said testing is up to the states to do, which will implement the tests and logistically co—ordinate the test. we have about 300 labs in new york and they are great labs, actually. it's myjob to co—ordinate those 300 labs, i think the president is right when these dates —— the states should lead.
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peter bowes, bbc news, los angeles. meanwhile, in italy the number of people confirmed to have the coronavirus has fallen for the first time. officials say the small but symbolic drop is a "positive development".|t comes as germany and some other european countries begin to ease lockdown restrictions. our correspondent jenny hill is in berlin. jenny, what's the latest there? what has the german government been saying? morning to you. i have big news here in germany this morning. just a few hours we're going to find out whether authorities in bavaria are to cancel the world—famous oktoberfest, 6 million people flocked to the southern state in the autumn for the beer festival which of course is known around the world. it's with something like 1 billion euros to the local economy. but you are right, germany is easing some restrictions, but a ban on gatherings, particularly big ones like that remain in place for many people and they expected to remain
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in place for some months to come. so there are big question marks over there are big question marks over the future one of germany's most famous events. bavaria, is a german region looking as though it will make it mandatory to make face masks in shops and on public transport. a bit of a mixed picture in germany of which restrictions are being eased. like a which restrictions are being eased. likea number of which restrictions are being eased. like a number of countries around europe, they have started to ease some restrictions that affect daily life. places like denmark and italy, which you say have had apparently some good news in the last day or so, with the number of people who are currently confirmed to have the virus dropping, just a small drop, only 20 people, but it is a job for the first time since the outbreak began so it has been very much welcomed by the authorities. they say it is a small but symbolic step in the right direction. there are those who say look, you know look at the european picture, with the obvious country starting to ease restrictions but i think is worth
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listening to angela with the german —— angela merkel, the german chancellor. the focus in germany has started to be on the easing of restrictions in daily life and not on the ongoing risk that the virus presents to public health. she warned it would be 1a days before germany was able to see what the effect of the very slow, very gradual lifting of restrictions might be and she warned that germany was by no means out of the woods yet. in effect, saying this pandemic is still an issue, there is no vaccine or treatment for it. germany, europeans, are going to have to live with it for the time being. grounds for cautious optimism but we are still seeing huge impact on daily life here in germany and further afield. 0k, jenny, thank you. jenny hill live for us from early on. —— from berlin. the price of american crude oil has recovered slightly after being worth less than nothing yesterday,
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meaning traders were paying to get it taken off their hands. nina's got more on this story for us this morning. after plummeting to $1 a barrel yesterday, american oil, and it is just american oil, it did dip below $0. that means they were paying buyers to take it off their hands. why would that happen? as we know, the world's economy has practically slowed to a. we aren't making things, we are doing things, we don't need the oil that is being produced and they ran out of space to put it. it has recovered to more than $1 a barrel today and the forecast forjune as it will recover toa forecast forjune as it will recover to a much better price —— is it well. we see an impact here? well, in other parts of the world prices have fared better but globally supply is just far in excess of demand. what will that mean for us? it could mean a reduction in energy prices and in petrol prices, but isn't like you are in the car much
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anyway. and some investors place assets in oil, so a knock to its value could affect things like pensions and savings. the hope at the moment is recovery will be swift, it will be strong and long—term it won't have a big impact. what this is is a huge indicator of the poor state of the economy at this point in time. it has practically ground to a halt. thank you, nina. more on that for you throughout the morning. dentists in england are facing "critical shortages" in ppe, forcing patients with urgent problems to "take matters into their own hands" — that's the warning from the british dental association. practices were told to suspend routine appointments last month and set up emergency hubs instead to help slow the spread of the virus. and just to warn you, danjohnson's report does contain some graphic images. here's a dentist at work, but not working.
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we've got all the equipment to treat people. he hasn't seen a patient for ages. all i'm allowed to do is give prescriptions out. i saw a patient last...about three weeks ago. the problem is protective equipment, and dentists are especially vulnerable. face—to—face without the appropriate ppe is not advised and not possible due to the dental drill, creates an aerosol spray, which can spread the virus particles. but i didn't realise quite how hard it would be to take out a molar tooth. so, some patients are resorting to diy afterfailing to get treatment. they basically said unless it's actually stopping me from breathing, that they couldn't do anything, there's no point coming in unless i literally, you know, couldn't stop — couldn't breathe properly. this wasn't the case, but the pain nevertheless was absolutely excruciating, so i thought i'd take it into my own hands, really. it was. . . it was quite tricky. i thought maybe ten, 15 minutes, but 1.5 hours it took me. some dentists have moved to working different roles. others just want to help
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their own patients. frustrated, i think, is the only word. frustrated that i can't do what i know i should be able to do. england's chief dental officer says a network of more than 200 urgent care centres is up and running to treat emergency cases. she says the right protective equipment is in place and that there's more on the way. dan johnson, bbc news. we'll speak to a gp later. the use of electric scooters on the country's roads is going to be looked at by mps. an inquiry has been launched to assess how safe they are and their potential impact on the environment. the uk is the last major european economy where e—scooters are banned everywhere apart from private land. ‘we're all in this together‘ has become a bit of an anthem for what we're all going through at the moment — but here's a slightly novel take on the high school musical hit performed by asher
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the singing cockatoo. # we're all in this... amazing! the video has been viewed more than 3.5 million times. devon cage and aviary bird rescue say when they played asher the song, he was absolutely overjoyed and joined in straightaway. the original cast of high school musical reunited last week to remotely sing a new version of the song. look at that. it's 6:16am. the range and scale of challenges facing the nhs in the struggle against coronavirus are unprecendented in modern times. although the number of new confirmed infections in the uk is "flattening out", on the frontline, staff are still facing
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extremely difficult conditions. the pressures of dealing with covid—19 patients, from the very young to the elderly, are vividly illustrated in this extended report from inside the university hospital in wishaw. it was compiled by our special correspondent ed thomas, producer noel titheradge and cameraman phil edwards. it's been a week now. cases to work with. beyond the daily statistics. these other lives changed forever. but you completely breathing on your own. it was a horrible feeling. i haven't seen my family. not until tomorrow. from those trying to save the sickest. it is totally for the staff today, probably the most amount of days and one shift that we've had so far. to the oldest and
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most vulnerable. the last thing you wa nt to most vulnerable. the last thing you want to hear when you pack up the phones, it's coronavirus. hospital life has been transformed. normally it's all pull of parents all day, all night so it's difficult. mums and dads of babies kept in for observation can only visit for an hour a day. what was it like being away from your baby for 15 nights? it was so hard. but these babies are never alone. receiving constant care. what of the nurses and doctors been like you? honest to god, they've been amazing. they deserve a medal, everyone of them. to contain the virus, the maternity ward is now divided. no—one is allowed in. it is to isolate coronavirus right there. yeah. peyton is three weeks old and has the virus. i can't thank them enough what they've done. she's
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a lwa ys enough what they've done. she's always watched over. we feel privileged to have such a great team behind her, she's been brilliant. when you've got a phone call saying, your babies got coronavirus, that's the worst thing i can only imagine. you just need to put her through and provide the best care we can. tracy has now taken the decision to isolate with her baby. obviously staff are absolutely risking their life looking after her unless not forget that, as cute and beautiful as she is, she has been at risk, as of the stuff that have handled her, they have been at risk. consultants and triage patients arriving at a&e. if we get patients with coronavirus, can we get them split from the start. with splits throughout the hospital. always suspected covid—19. all are seen quickly. week? pain? i
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wasjust really sore, quite breathless and very, very, very tired. week after week, lynn has beenin tired. week after week, lynn has been in and out of homes working as a carer. the covid-19 team, have been here. because to help. they would rather stay in their own homes rather than go to a hospital. they don't know if it's better. i don't know whether they really appreciated. in just weeks, the hospital has created three specialist wards or coronavirus patients. terrifying, terrifying. with the doctors, i trusted them all. if there is a doubt, they are working in an environment they've never worked in before and to get results they are getting is
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unbelievable. and it's here, the icu, where staff face the greatest uncertainties. how intense has it been? it's been overwhelming to see it, the staffer felt completely overwhelmed. some patients are spending up to three weeks her. you have in fact of our family because you're the only patient here that's visiting them so the staff are it really difficult. they are bereft when people are dying. in the time we were, there was no reprieve. u nfortu nately, we we were, there was no reprieve. unfortunately, we had three deaths which is totally flawed the staff today. in just which is totally flawed the staff today. injust weeks, this which is totally flawed the staff today. in just weeks, this intensive ca re today. in just weeks, this intensive care unit has quadrupled capacity. you think we're getting to grips with this and then you get another onslaught in admissions again so every day you think, today will be a better day, the better day never, ever comes. concern for andrea is how long they keep going. so
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everybody is working more than they we re everybody is working more than they were normal working hours. my worry is award manager is how long staff can sustain that. there is going to come a point where staff are going to have to burn themselves out. but this is what sustains them. after 12 daysin this is what sustains them. after 12 days in intensive care. guy heath is getting stronger. have you ever felt like this before ever, with any illness? never, ever. what you want to say to people? and every thursday, our country
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echoes to the sound of banks. thanks to the physiotherapists working 12— our nursing shifts in intensive care, the nurse living apart to protect her three—year—old daughter. you are breathing completely on your own now. so kenny can finally breathe unaided. and guy can once again see his family. we see people there and really difficult times in hospitals and the message is well is a thank you to all of them are talking to ours, but the staff and the people there because it gives you a real insight into what conditions are like there and what people are having to deal with. let's take a look at today's papers. the main image on the front of the telegraph is sir richard branson who has offered his luxury necker island resort, to underwrite his efforts to get a government loan to bailout his virgin
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atlantic airline. the paper says sir richard has put "his necker on the line". the times shows the duke and duchess of sussex wearing face masks as they deliver meals to those who need them in los angeles. the mirror describes the government's testing record as a "failure" it features images of three empty testing sites on its front page. and online, the huffington post focuses on the cost of the coronavirus outbreak to the economy, as firms start to claim back 80% of wages for staff who've been furloughed. the world's steepest street? first, it was in dunedin new zealand and thenit it was in dunedin new zealand and then it was in wales and harlech, i won't say the name of the street because i will embarrass my welsh mother. and then the new zealanders got in touch with the guinness book
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of records. i won't go into all of details guinness said, we are going to measure the centreline of the road so actually, they then said the welsh road is not as steep as the one in new zealand. so the men and women of harlech have said hold on, they complained and they said, when there is an issue like this in the past, you have shared the title so can we ‘s share the title? is it 40%? 37.45% is the can we ‘s share the title? is it 40%? 37.a5% is the gradient. can we ‘s share the title? is it 40%? 37.4596 is the gradient. there 4096? 37.4596 is the gradient. there are 70 things aren't there, about what happens when we ease restrictions and we've been talking about other european countries easing restrictions. look at this. quite a serious discussions about ice creams. customers are not allowed to consume food until they are 50 metres away from the place
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they brought the food but if you've gotan they brought the food but if you've got an ice cream, that is a problem because you know it is going to melt quickly so it's spring temperatures soaring, a regional government has made a special exemption to prevent ice cream melting. you can have an initial swift lick of a scoop while rapidly proceeding away from the ice cream parlour in order to prevent ice cream from dripping onto the floor. there are other bigger issues to consider but that is the kind of thing. sprinting away from an ice cream shop. so many of us at home and all the time at the moment and there is a little piece in here, talking about animals. lots of dogs loving life in lockdown that we all go back to work and everything, according to some dog psychologists, they may miss us and suffer from severe separation anxiety. they may miss us and suffer from severe separation anxietylj they may miss us and suffer from severe separation anxiety. i think our dog is fed up with walking all the time. she wants us all to go
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back to normal. with shortages and delays to the arrival of personal protective equipment, many of us are looking for ways to help nhs workers through the coronavirus pandemic. it's led to a volunteer army of more than 40,000 sewers, from every corner of the uk, producing scrubs for workers on the frontline. hywel griffith reports. hi! i'm terri hayfield. hello. i'm vicky. i'm christina. i'm becca. from stitchers in somerset... i'm in edinburgh. from scarborough. cornwall. ..to cumbria... i'm from manchester. falmouth. i'm in bristol. ..in belfast and brighton too. machine whirrs that whirring is the sound of tens of thousands of people doing what they can to protect the nhs. so, this is my temporary work room that i've set up at home. the pandemic has meant many more health workers need scrubs, cotton uniforms, which are simple
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to clean and quick to change. within half an hour, i'd already received a request for 150 scrubs. marcelle set up one of the teams in the midlands. it's just been a complete whirlwind. even people who are not able to make the scrubs are making ear guards for us, they're making scrub bags, somebody‘s even created labels saying ‘superhero cape', you know, to put on the front of the scrub bags! costu me costume makers from tv have made over 6000 sets of scrubs between them. the world of opera is helping as well. the world of opera is helping too, adding a little flair as they sew. we're putting fun pockets where they have prints, so it's notjust plain, boring cotton scrubs. they're saying how much they love the little personal touch of having a dragonfly or a bumblebee on their pocket. the basic pattern is simple to share and print, the material bought using donations. even sewers in self—isolation are helping. when they're ready, the scrubs
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are packed up and delivered directly to the hospitals, hospices and care homes who need them. how are you doing? fine! are you 0k? yeah, grand, thanks! i've got your scrubs here. taking them straight to staff as a way of trying to cut through bureaucracy and meet the demand. thank you! absolutely amazing that they are thinking of us in their time and making the effort. it's fantastic. people are just overwhelmed. they want to give us money and i keep saying, "no, this is free!" the desire to make a difference in such difficult times is the thread that runs through every set of these. thanks very much. thank you. as people pull together to protect the front line. hywel griffith, bbc news, cardiff. aren't they beautifully made as well? lovely workmanship. that is a beautiful view, carol,
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well? lovely workmanship. that is a beautifulview, carol, isn't it lovely? good morning, everybody. beautiful blue sky and today, once again, that more or less is the forecast. dry and sunny but we have that risk easterly wind that we had yesterday, gusting 35 miles per hour, 40 with exposure. you will notice it. you can see the isobars on the chart indicating how windy it is going to be. whether front the d rifts is going to be. whether front the drifts away from the south—west of england and the channel islands, taking the cloud and spots of rain we have with it at the moment. we have got a huge difference in temperature, minus four degrees in braemar but in st mary ‘s, the temperature is 12 degrees so 16 degrees difference. a bit of dry weather, lots of sunshine. these are the wind gusts you can see in the black circles. again, along the north sea coastline, if you are exposed, it will feel cold.
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temperatures 11—15. inland, further west, that's what we're to see the higher temperatures, 20, 21 around bournemouth or cardiff, even west wales, 20. heading on through the evening and overnight, a lot of clear skies around and still quite a brisk wind. starting to ease a little bit and tonight, we will see low cloud forming across the north—west hills, the pennines, parts of scotland and north—east scotland, temperatures will slip low enough for a touch of frost but the rest of us, that shouldn't be an issue. we start tomorrow on a nippy note for some, milder brothers and a lot of dry weather. blue skies around. also through parts of northern ireland, might produce the odd isolated shower. once again, the
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winds won't be as strong, wee bit cooler. wednesday to thursday, high pressure still in charge. look at the isobars start to open up. on thursday, the wind will be much lighter. warm as a result. on thursday itself, again, starting with a few missed patches around, crowd six mcleod cross north—west scotla nd crowd six mcleod cross north—west scotland slipping south through the day so won't be anywhere for long. temperatures 11—23 but somewhere in the south, 24 or indeed 25 degrees. in the lighter wind, along the north sea coastline, it won't feel as chilly and as we head on into the weekend, the trend is for the temperatures to come down, still a lot of dry weather around, we might just catch the odd isolated shower but that's it, the forecast is changed.
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hello, this is breakfast with dan walker and louise minchin. it's 6:32. we'll bring you all the latest news and sport in a moment, but also on breakfast this morning. most of us are relying on technology more than ever during the lockdown with some of us using it for the first time, but just how secure is the internet? the chief executive of the national cyber security centre will be telling us why they're monitoring online activity more closely. he's no stranger to life in isolation — astronaut tim peake will be sharing stories about life in space and talking aboutjoining forces with the adventurer bear grylls to help raise money for children in need and comic relief‘s big night in on thursday. and he may have already raised nearly £30 million for the nhs, but captain tom isn't putting his feet up quite yet. today he's cutting the virtual ribbon at harrogate's new nightingale hospital.
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for those of you who are worried about, do not worry, he will be at home. good morning, here's a summary of today's main stories from bbc news. urging people to wear face masks when out in public could put supplies at risk for healthcare workers. that's the warning from nhs providers, the body responsible for hospital trusts in england. the government's scientific advisory committee will meet later today to discuss whether the routine wearing of masks could be effective in combating the virus. president trump has said he will suspend all immigration into the united states as a measure to tackle coronavirus. he made the announcement on twitter, saying he was acting to protect the jobs of american citizens. the us has already agreed with its neighbours in canada and mexico to extend border restrictions on nonessential travel, and movement is currently limited from both europe and china. the number of people in italy confirmed to have the coronavirus has fallen for the first time. officials say the small but symbolic drop is a "positive development".
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italy's death toll has now passed 24,000. germany and some other european countries have begun to ease lockdown restrictions. the price of american crude oil has recovered slightly after being worth less than nothing yesterday, meaning traders were paying to get it taken off their hands. fears over a lack of storage capacity saw the price fall as low as —$37 per barrel. it now stands atjust over $1 a barrel. you might have made a bit of a mistake but you are right, it was worth nothing for a while. it's time now to put some of your questions to a gp. joining us today from nottingham is doctor jamie parker. very good morning to you. thank you for joining very good morning to you. thank you forjoining us this morning. i want to start with one question, a lot of people affected by hay fever at the moment. how do you tell if it is hay
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fever or coronavirus? lots of people are affected fever or coronavirus? lots of people a re affected by fever or coronavirus? lots of people are affected by it at the moment. those who have had it before, lots of people have had it before, if it is like your usual symptoms then it is like your usual symptoms then it is unlikely to be coronavirus. if you have got a new or a new persistent cough from your he fever coffee normally have, or if have a higher temperature then it can be coronavirus. coronavirus is the one that would give you a high temperature and not hay fever? yes, although it is called hay fever, it does not give you a temperature. very good point about the fever. matthew mcdonald says does having a weird increase the risk of the spread of coronavirus? that is an interesting question. i am not aware of any strong evidence. i am aware
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in some health care trust they have advised getting rid of facial hair on the basis that it makes them ask that you wear potentially less effective. but in terms of the actual risk of spreading and generally, if you follow the advice you are given, try and not to touch your face you are given, try and not to touch yourface and you are given, try and not to touch your face and wash your hands regularly, i am your face and wash your hands regularly, iam not your face and wash your hands regularly, i am not aware of any strong evidence of having a beard increasing the risk. can we talk about masks in a general sense, the government has an advisory committee who will be talking about that today. what difference would it make, iam today. what difference would it make, i am not suggesting this will have an suggested it will happen, if we all wore masks, would it make a difference? it will be discussed, as you have said. it is assessing the risks and benefits. it has to be clear that the benefits of giving advice would outweigh the risks. risks of wearing the masks is
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firstly it may work. secondly, it potentially could increase the risk of getting it if you wear it wrong. if you wait it out and about and touch your face after you have been out, you could increase the risk of catching it. there is a risk of taking supplies away from notjust nhs staff but all nhs —— front line staff. that analysis key. absolutely. on that ppe question, mark says why is it not possible to clea n mark says why is it not possible to clean ppe equipment especially with gowns for example? clean ppe equipment especially with gowns for example ?|j clean ppe equipment especially with gowns for example? i am not an expert on ppe, it has to be fluid resista nt for expert on ppe, it has to be fluid resistant for it to work. in my place of work, as a gp, we have some goggles that we use that can be wiped easily and then be used. in terms of the gowns, i think the concern would be that if the were washed, would they retain their fluid resistance, would they still
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work as ppe? if they cannot work as ppe you cannot use them again. on the first... i am a first time mum, the first... i am a first time mum, the baby is due herfirst time immunisations, she is worried about catching coronavirus, what would you suggest? it is important that children continue to get their childhood immunisations. on a wider note, the stay—at—home message is very key but stay—at—home does not mean do not seek help when you need it. if there is crucial medal care that you need, you need to be seeking help for that. the nhs is set up to provide the best care in the current situation. we do not wa nt the current situation. we do not want people sitting at home having a heart attack or a stroke and not seeking help because of this. one other question, we have got a piece
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this morning about ten tests. one person doing his own dental work because of what is going on at the moment. what do you see about people who may have a problem with the teeth who may need to see a dentist? all routine dental care has been suspended as routine medical care has been suspended. there should be... there are urgent services running. if you have got a concern, contact your dentist. you may be given an emergency number. if you believe it is an emergency, call 111 . believe it is an emergency, call 111. that is clear advice. thank you very much indeed. appreciate it. talking about doing your own dental work... i saw talking about doing your own dental work... i saw someone talking about doing your own dental work... i saw someone walking past on the antiques road show on the telly the other day. someone brought ina telly the other day. someone brought in a victorian tooth remover. don't tell me! i can imagine it. i will
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not tell you any more details! sorry everybody. shall i come to your rescue? i do not like the sound of the victorian tooth remover at all. we had a chat about this a few weeks ago, cast your mind back several weeks ago when then there was that big match in enfield. 3000 supporters over to play liverpool. spain were significantly ahead of us in terms of the coronavirus care. at the time we asked, is it wise to bring all of these fans over to sit in crowd in enfield to spend 36 errors in the city. the government has denied making mistakes and not act being sooner to cancel big sporting events in the light of that match and also cheltenham, too. the government has rejected claims that it was too slow
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to cancel major sporting events in the days leading up to the lockdown. the cheltenham festival, and liverpool's champions league match against athletico madrid were both allowed to go ahead. some coronavirus deaths have since been blamed on that match at anfield, with 3000 fans from the spanish capital amongst the crowd. the deputy chief scientific advisor, professor angela mclean, says that although there's no confimed link, it warranted further investigation. if we're at a bit of our recent history where we were living our lives as normal, in that circumstance, going to a football match, is not a particularly large extra risk. however, once you get to a situation of our strange lives as we live them now, where we spend all our time basically at home, of course you wouldn't add on an extra risk of lots and lots of people all going off to the same place at the same time. i think it will be very interesting to see in the future, when all the science is done, what relationship there is between the viruses that have circulated in liverpool and the viruses that have circulated in spain. arsenal's first team players and their head coach mikel arteta have all agreed to take a pay cut to help the club through the pandemic. they say that the 12.5% cut
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is voluntary, and if certain targets are met on the pitch then some of that money will be paid back. the sheffield united manager chris wilder has also agreed to defer his pay. we should find out more today about what's going to happen with the rest of the football season. uefa's going to give an update to all of its 55 national associations. european football's governing body wants to finish the current season by august. at the very latest. the spurs forward son hyung min has started his military service back home in south korea. the 27—year—old is required by law to complete his national service by his 28th birthday. he's doing three weeks of basic training. son should have done 21 months, but earned an exemption after helping his country win the asian cup in 2018. jamie murray's doing his bit to try and fill the void left by the cancellation of wimbledon.
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he's hoping to organise an event for british players this summer that will be played behind closed doors. talks are said to be at a very early stage, and it's all dependant on any relaxation of social distancing guidelines. now, we've seen some creative fundraising ideas over the last few weeks, but how about this? former rugby player ed jackson is climbing the height of mount everest — by going up and down his staircase. it's an even bigger challenge because three years ago he was told that he might never walk again. andy swiss reports. imagine recreating the world's highest climb on a staircase in somerset. well, ed jackson knows all about challenges. he used to be a professional rugby player, but three years ago he broke his neck in a swimming
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accident and was told he might never walk again. remarkably, though, he defied his injuries. within a year, he was climbing mountains. and now, in lockdown, he's tackling the biggest of the lot... ed? hi. how are you doing? ..by stairs. i was first going to consider climbing the height of snowden, but then the way my brain works, i decided to do everest on a four—day expedition from my parents' kitchen to the landing, and i don't know if i'm going to regret it or not, but i suppose we'll find out this week! the curveball is i'm doing it all with one leg, pretty much, cos i've only got one functioning leg. so that poor leg doesn't know what it's in for, i don't think, yet. it's certainly a tall order. mount everest is nearly 9000m high, while's ed staircase is just over 3m. so he will have to go up it 2783 times — around 89,000 steps — to reach the summit. he's raised money for charity
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in previous climbs, and with this one he is supporting three medical cause, including the nhs. the nhs saved my life three years ago and they're saving a lot of people's lives at the moment, so i was resuscitated three times after my accident. hopefully i can repay them in some small way over the next four days. ed says he hopes to become the first quadriplegic to climb the real everest, but for the next few days, the top of the world lies at the top of the stairs. andy swiss, bbc news. sending him loads and loads of luck, we will be monitoring your progress over the next four days, eddie jackson. and he is also going to go down before he goes up again, so it is a double challenge. and as he says, with one functioning leg. have you been roped in to louise's cycling challenge on thursday? yes, iam cycling challenge on thursday? yes, i am excited, cycling challenge on thursday?
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yes, iam excited, but cycling challenge on thursday? yes, i am excited, but i think i have got away with it. i know you are going to be quite a big part of it. louise wants me to come in at the end for a bit of motivation, i am going to do the pep talk. and apparently bushell is involved from a hotel room somewhere. he is going to be in it from the beginning, but that is what i need you far, sally. thank you. louise is doing 100 miles as part of the big night in. mine is called the big bike in. i don't cycle, really, at all, so i'm looking forward to not sitting down for the three days after that. the toilet could be interesting! iamso the toilet could be interesting! i am so excited. i haven't asked nina yet. she has more important things to think about. yesterday was crunch time for thousands of businesses who are now able to apply for government grants
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to pay their furloughed staff. nina's been finding out how smooth the process was for some businesses. i will send you motivational, positive vibes, does that count? yes. this is the scheme introduced by the chancellor to get companies to "furlough" their staff or put them on standby mode rather than lay them off. a reminder have too of how this works. under the job retention scheme the government has promised to cover up to 80% of workers salary up to the value of £2500 a month. employees must have technically been on the payroll by 19th march — the day before the scheme was announced. it means thousands of new employees might miss out. the scheme currently runs until the end ofjune and claims can be backdated to 1st march. it's not a loan so the money does not have to be paid back. one estimate puts the number
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of workers who will be furloughed at nine million. the application website went live while we were on air yesterday morning. there was massive in dissipation on this. nothing on this scale has been attempted in this village might in the first half hour, the system successfully received nearly 70,000 requests from uk businesses. by close of play on monday that number was 140,000. we have caught up with elaine and peter, they run are three restau ra nts peter, they run are three restaurants in liverpool and manchester and we spoke to them in march, they were really nervous about how they would manage to pay their staff. they managed to furlough over 70 and we watched as they put their process in. we have just spent the last 1.5 hours entering all of our details onto the hm website to claim our
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fellow grand and we are about to submit our last bit of data. it is an incredibly stressful process because one error, you could be in trouble and one error that we could be kicked out as well. confirm and submit. it has gone through! we are told to take a screenshot because we don't get an e—mail. and we hope in six days' time we will have all of the pay we need to do our next payroll. well done elaine and peter. hmrc say it is designed to be simple but as you see there it is depending on you being organised and having a good filing system in place. if you are an employer, you shouldn't have to provide more than your current use for your payroll runner, if you have lots of employees it will take more time because you have to work out 80% of their fellow salary and take things like pensions into account.
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once the application has been received and if there are no errors, the cash should be with you within six working days. we are keen to hear from you six working days. we are keen to hearfrom you on how six working days. we are keen to hear from you on how your application process is going. there is pressure on the government to get this right, we talked to you about the business interruption loans up to £330 billion. so farjust 2% of that cash has gone through so the government has come under fire for that. we will be looking at that tomorrow. if you have applied for a loa n tomorrow. if you have applied for a loan ora tomorrow. if you have applied for a loan or a fellow scheme, get in touch. i know so many people want more and more information, so i know they will get in touch. we're using technology more and more during the lockdown but that means greater opportunities for criminals to find ways to scam people on line. the uk's national cyber security centre says it's foiled 2000 scams relating to the pandemic in the last month alone.
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they include 471 fake online shops, selling fraudulent virus—related items, over 500 malware sites, set up to cause damage to any of the web pages' visitors, 200 phishing sites, looking for personal information such as passwords or credit card details, and more than 800 advance—fee frauds — this is where a large sum of money is promised in return for setting up a payment. we can speak now to ciaran martin, chief executive of the national cyber security centre. good morning. thank you for coming on the programme. quite clearfrom the figures there are some people out there really trying to take advantage at the moment. absolutely, you hear so much about the best of human life in terms of ca re the best of human life in terms of care workers and health workers and people doing amazing things for charity, but there are nasty people who prey on fear. you mentioned technology part of the way through the crisis and the way out of it, so we shouldn't be scared to use
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technology, over other levels of cybercrime are stable, but we take down fake sites of the time and 10% of the activity we are seeing is a coronavirus theme, so when you are dealing with coronavirus related information you want to be careful and we are setting out lots of tests people can follow in order to stay safe online. give us an example, looking at those fake online shops, what are they doing linked to a coronavirus that might draw people in? some of them are selling fake ppe equipment, people selling fake humours, and in terms of some of the signs they are asking you far,... it is very important you look properly, has got a proper address because you are seeing things like that info or things like that. the government
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never offers you randomly money but you can see texts and e—mails where the eye offering you money where they are using gbp instead of the £. there are ways of spotting this. and we're launching today a to help us. lots of people when they spot something, they think, what will i do with this? i have not been divided, i will not call the police, but we have launched today a suspicious e—mail reporting service. we can analyse it and if it leads to a bad side, we will take it down. that is quite helpful, i am sure there are many who will take you upon that. it seems, it is very organised crime, talking about the way it mirrors what is going on elsewhere in society, so give us another example, so when these fellow scheme was announced, there was a fake furlough scheme trying to
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draw people in? what people will do is they will say we are acting on behalf of the government, click on this link, please give us your password, and it is organised but it is often not that sophisticated so as well as helping us help the nation stay safe online, where publishing the six top tips that people can take. if you look at some of the tips, one is to have a separate password for your main e—mail account, don't use your password for e—mailfor e—mail account, don't use your password for e—mail for anything else because if you do then fell for one of these scams, and people do, it happens, then if you have given away our main password, that is the gateway to everything else. follow our website, the top tips and you will be able to protect yourself from most of the harm the organised criminals can cause most of the time. one of those is to turn on
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that two factor identification because it means the code gets sent to your phone so then only you can access it. that and the thumbprint or the facial recognition on phone, having automatic back—ups for your data and having automatic software updates or a those updates all the time to keep it up—to—date. all those things will help us beat the criminals. are there particular groups of people being targeted by the criminals? not particularly. i think anywhere where there is likely to be money, data and scared people, you will see criminals trying to target them. some of these campaigns, because they are relatively unsophisticated, they are very easy to light, does not take much effort is send an e—mail to millions of people, it doesn't take much effort to set up a fake site.
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soi much effort to set up a fake site. so i think everyone can consider themselves vulnerable. here we are looking at some of the most important public services to see us through the crisis, so we are watching particularly the nhs digital estate, working with hmrc to make sure we protect the key government services set up to support people through the crisis. but i think these cyber criminals target anyone they can, they are very opportunistic and they will ta ke very opportunistic and they will take the lowest hanging fruit. don't make yourself among those most vulnerable, update your basic protections and you should be able to see off these criminals. very helpful advice there. thank you very much. and i think we will put those six pieces of advice on our social media today. to run you through them quickly, create a separate password for e—mail, create a strong password, save all your passwords in your browser, turn on two factor
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authentication, update your devices and turn on your back—up. here's carol with a look at this morning's weather. good morning. thank you. you can see the lovely sun rise on at the window pane, though there is some rain. this is a weather watcher picture, from saltash in cardwell. a weather in england and channel islands, moving away to take the cloud and rain with it. but we still do have that brisk easterly breeze. you can see from the isobars wrapped around this area of high pressure they are coming in overa this area of high pressure they are coming in over a cold north sea for step this is the weather front drifting away from the south—west taking its cloud and rain with it. a cold start, temperatures in braemar have slipped lower than 5 degrees, soa have slipped lower than 5 degrees,
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so a touch of frost for you but a lot of blue skies. the same for northern ireland and northern england on a sunny start as we are across much of the rest of england and wales must adjust the channel islands and the south—west of that has the cloud and also some splashes of rain. that moves away and then it will brighten up. but then the keen wind coming from the north sea gusting up to about 30 mph inland, 40 mph with the exposure so really taking the edge off those temperatures down the north sea coast line is that the highest temperatures will be in the furthest west through the evening and overnight, it will still be windy but the will ease a little bit, a lot of blue skies around, bits and pieces of cloud and frost. other parts of another england could see temperatures dip down low enough here and there for a touch of frost. but most will escape it. so we start tomorrow with again a fine day, lack
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of sunshine, the winds using commas are not quite as cool as today and yesterday, and temperature wise looking at 20, 21, possibly 22 as the top temperatures. thursday, this looks like being the warmest day of the week. the headlines are next. good morning, welcome to breakfast with louise minchin and dan walker. our headlines today: masks for the public could put nhs supplies at risk. a warning from hospital bosses as government advisers meet to review policy. "well—loved" and "hugely respected" — tributes to accident & emergency consultant manjeet singh riyat who has died after contracting covid—19. the value of american oil dipped below zero for the first time ever yesterday — reflecting the state of the global economy.
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what does it mean this side of the pond? the government rejects claims that it was too slow to cancel large sporting events. it's after some coronavirus deaths were blamed on liverpool's champions league game against athletico madrid last month. walking to the moon — the scouts on a mission to the stars. we speak to bear grylls and tim peake. it's tuesday 21st april. our top story. the latest measures to tackle the coronavirus pandemic — including whether people should be told to wear masks when not at home — will be discussed by the government's scientific advisory committee later today. nhs providers, the body that looks after hospital trusts in england, has warned this could lead to further shortages for staff amid concerns that health workers are still dying from the virus. andy moore reports.
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manjeet singh riyat was the uk's first sikh a&e consultant. he died at the hospital in derby where he worked. he was described as "hugely—respected" as well as "much—loved". today, expert government advisers will discuss whether the general public should wear face masks. many countries in europe have adopted the policy. the mayor of london says they should be worn on public transport. but nhs providers, the organisation that represents trusts in england, warns that masks might be in short supply for frontline health professionals if the general public are scrambling to find them. yesterday's figure for hospital deaths with coronavirus in the uk stood at 449, bringing the total to 16,509. hospital in admissions with covid are roughly stable across the country as a whole but falling in the capital. here in london, this is now the seventh day in a row that those
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numbers have fallen. so that means the balance between people going into hospital because they've fallen ill, and people who are going home because they are well again now, is in the opposite direction so that there are fewer people each day in hospital with covid. but there will be more official figures out this morning showing the number of deaths in care homes. last week's figures showed 210 deaths. many people in the care sector say the true toll numbers in the thousands. there's the blue way, putting our gowns on. parts of the nhs continue to experience problems getting a hold of personal protection equipment. over the weekend, ministers set a flight was due to arrive from turkey shortly with 400,000 much—needed gowns. an raf aircraft has flown to istanbul to pick up the shipment but there is no word on when it will return. andy moore, bbc news. well, later today parliament will reconvene
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following its easter recess — but with some changes to comply with social distancing measures. our political correspondent iain watsonjoins us now from westminster — what changes will be in place? how do you say what you want to say? it will be parliament resuming but not how we know it. it will set an example to show they are socially distancing so the number of empty in the chamber will be limited to 50. just before the easter recess, remember, at least there is no direct cause and effect link, we did see borisjohnson direct cause and effect link, we did see boris johnson and direct cause and effect link, we did see borisjohnson and the health secretary being close to each other on the green benches, and both came down with a virus. what mps will be asked to agree today and i am sure they will, that 120 more of them can ta ke they will, that 120 more of them can take part during video conferencing. they will be asking questions on screens around parliament. they will
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not physically be there but that means initially the job they will be doing is one of scrutiny. they will be listening to ministerial statements, or if they are opposition mps, putting down urgent questions to ministers. what they will not be able to do at this stage is discuss new laws. parliament hopes to motor that if the lockdown is extended, but at this stage it will be making sure that some mps will be making sure that some mps will be making sure that some mps will be able to ask some mps releva nt will be able to ask some mps relevant questions. but they will tell the commons authorities in advance. so it will not be quite like normal but some people think in terms of social distancing it will be useful and at least it allows a degree of scrutiny. and on ppe and face masks, we will get some kind of parliamentary scrutiny as of today. on that issue of ppe, we will be speaking to simon clark. he will be
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here in about 25 minutes on the programme. president donald trump has said he will sign an executive order to temporarily suspend all immigration to the us because of the coronavirus. but critics say the government is using the pandemic as an excuse to severely limit immigration. our north america correspondent peter bowes reports. as america itches to get back to normal, a surprise announcement from the president in a late—night tweet. "in light of the attack from the invisible enemy, as well as the need to protect the jobs of our great american citizens, i will be signing an executive order to temporarily suspend immigration into the united states!" the "invisible enemy" is the term mr trump has used to describe coronavirus. more than 22 million americans have applied for unemployment benefits in the last month, and there are fears the economic fallout from covid—19 could last for years. there are already bans on travel to the us from europe and china. it comes as the country is slowly
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beginning to lift the restrictions on movement, imposed to protect people from covid—19. some beaches in florida are already open to the public. in georgia, later this week, gyms, hair salons and bowling alleys will be back in business. and from next week, restaurants. elsewhere in the country, americans are running out of patience. in phoenix, arizona's capital city, demonstrators gathered to protest the state's continuing order to stay at home. at the white house, president trump said he was working with state governors to ramp up coronavirus testing, a key part of the plan to reopen the country. and he highlighted support he received from the governor of new york. i want to draw your attention to governor cuomo's remarks during his press conference today. he said, "the president is right, the state's testing is up to the states to do, which will implement the tests and logistically
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co—ordinate the tests." "we have about 300 labs in new york..." and they do, they're great labs, actually. "..and it's myjob to co—ordinate those 300 labs." "i think the president's right when he says that the states should lead..." mr trump says he'll discuss the pandemic with andrew cuomo at the white house. peter bowes, bbc news, los angeles. dentists in england are facing "critical shortages" in ppe, forcing patients with urgent problems to "take matters into their own hands" — that's the warning from the british dental association. practices were told to suspend routine appointments last month and set up emergency hubs instead to help slow the spread of the virus. and just to warn you, danjohnson's report does contain some graphic images. here's a dentist at work, but not working. we've got all the equipment to treat people. he hasn't seen a patient for ages. all i'm allowed to do is give prescriptions out. i saw a patient last...about three weeks ago.
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the problem is protective equipment, and dentists are especially vulnerable. face—to—face without the appropriate ppe is not advised and not possible due to the dental drill, creates an aerosol spray, which can spread the virus particles. but i didn't realise quite how hard it would be to take out a molar tooth. so, some patients are resorting to diy afterfailing to get treatment. they basically said unless it's actually stopping me from breathing, that they couldn't do anything, there's no point coming in unless i literally, you know, couldn't stop — couldn't breathe properly. this wasn't the case, but the pain nevertheless was absolutely excruciating, so i thought i'd take it into my own hands, really. it was...it was quite tricky. i thought maybe ten, 15 minutes, but 1.5 hours it took me. some dentists have moved to working different roles. others just want to help their own patients. frustrated, i think, is the only word. frustrated that i can't do what i know i should be able to do. england's chief dental officer says
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a network of more than 200 urgent care centres is up and running to treat emergency cases. she says the right protective equipment is in place and that there's more on the way. dan johnson, bbc news. germany has started to ease some of its restrictions on movement but says a decision will be made later today over whether its famous oktoberfest will go ahead this year. the world's largest beer festival had been due to start in mid—september, but is expected to be cancelled due to the coronavirus. the event attracts around six million visitors to munich every year. internet users are being asked to remain vigilant as criminals look for ways to use the coronavirus pandemic as a way to scam people online. the uk's national cyber security centre says it has foiled more than 2000 scams in the last month alone, including fake online shops, as well as password and credit card theft. the use of electric scooters on the country's roads
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is going to be looked at by mps. an inquiry has been launched to assess how safe they are and their potential impact on the environment. the uk is the last major european economy where e—scooters are banned everywhere apart from private land. captain tom, who has raised more than £27 million for nhs charities by walking 100 lengths of his garden, continues to inspire people around the country. now another 99—year—old is pledging to walk the lengths of her driveway. winnie page is walking ten lengths every day until her 100th birthday in a week's time. she's hoping to raise £5,000 for the north west ambulance service.
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we have got ten peak and bear grylls at ten to eight this morning. "we're all in this together" has become a bit of an anthem for what we're all going through at the moment — but here's a slightly novel take on the high school musical hit performed by asher the singing cockatoo the video has been viewed more than 3.5 million times. devon cage and aviary bird rescue say when they played asher the song, he was absolutely overjoyed and joined in straight away. the original cast of high school musical reunited last week to remotely sing a new version of the song.
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excellent. very impressive. it is 12 minutes past seven. you are watching brea kfast minutes past seven. you are watching breakfast this morning from the bbc. while social distancing and self—isolation can be distressing experiences for us all, there are unique challenges facing people with learning difficulties living in care. for some, sudden changes of routine or lack of contact with loved ones can cause huge upset — and for carers explaining what is happening can be a real challenge, as graham satchell reports. so here i am arriving at work. we have no visitors at all, not even family members. a home for people with learning disabilities run by the care company dimensions uk. these pictures taken for us by a front line carer. do you have any concerns about the coronavirus? i don't like it, this virus. trying to explain what's happening to the residents, a real challenge. their main concerns are that they are going to get the virus.
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they obviously see every day the amount of people that have sadly died, going up and up. new figures seen by this programme show only half a percent of staff working with people with learning disabilities have been tested for covid—19. 13% of staff are off work, isolating, putting a significant strain on services, and according to the voluntary organisations disability group, the supply chain for ppe is slow and undeveloped. despite government's assurances. this is barbara, doing what she loved best — playing the drums. barbara was taken to hospital with covid—19 at the end of march. she was just a cute, cute thing. she was lovely. she didn't have a mean bone in her body. barbara's sister frances wasn't allowed to see her. they wouldn't let any visitors in after she tested positive,
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so she was in hospital for several weeks on her own, and she is not a communicator. and she would get very scared in hospital. she would just get petrified. she didn't understand what was going on. barbara lived in a home by the care provider certitude. their main concern? what happens if one of their residents has to go to hospital. good health care for people with learning disabilities in ordinary times requires amazing advocacy by our staff and families. so one of our biggest worries is people going into hospital unaccompanied at the moment, without that advocacy, without that support, to make sure that their needs are understood, their distress is understood. barbara was in hospitalfor three weeks on her own before she died. frances rang every day, but was told she couldn't come in.
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i know there is a risk, but i know i would have been prepared to have geared up with all of the protective equipment just to go and see her occasionally, because she really didn't have a clue what was going on any of the time. so that would have added to the angst. day after day on her own. and, anyway, yeah... when you think of people like barbara dying in hospital on her own, i mean, it is unthinkable, isn't it? it is absolutely unbearable. barbara was the most feisty, fun loving, charming, humorous, life and soul of the party. and to think of her in those last days without her beloved family or her staff team who absolutely
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adored her, and itjust breaks my heart to think that someone that was so loved by so many people didn't have that love around her physically at the end of her life. nhs england told us patients with a learning disabilities can have one visitor if they are in distress, but the charity mencap says families are struggling to get access. there is a strong feeling in the sector that they are being overlooked. that people like barbara are dying alone, confused and in distress. graham satchell, bbc news. thatis that is with a desperate hearing her story. joining us now from surrey is saba salman, whose sister raana lives in supported housing, and rhidian hughes, chief executive of the voluntary organisations disability group, joins us from worthing. thank you both so much forjoining
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us. i want to talk to you about your sister. tell us a bit about her and where she is at the moment. i want to say my heart goes out to francis and that was an incredibly powerful video that we have just seen. raana is living in supported living about two hours away from me in terms of her character she is basically the gi, the heart of our family. she has got a cheeky sense of humour, she loves a good party, adores eating out, she dotes on her nephews and niece and she really does rely on seeing her family. raana does not use the phone at all. so from her point of view, and from
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all of the view as' points of view, it would be really tough. as we have just heard, life at the moment is tough enough for all of us, we are all struggling, but i think if you have experience of learning disability and your family, then there are the additional and really intense challenges, really centring around the lack of contact comedy communication, the fact the routines, the rug is being pulled from underneath people's feet. the routines that raana thrives on, it is all gone, and lastly we worry about what will happen if raana falls ill or her support staff file ill. staff absences are high and that will have a massive impact on someone like raana who relies on her team. getting a contact on that from radian. on that issue of contingency planning around people like raana whose carers may not be available, what happens with regard to that? good morning, everyone. good
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providers will have contingency plans for this kind of situation, but as you heard, there are 30% of staff sickness absence at the moment and that coupled with a typical va ca ncy and that coupled with a typical vacancy rate of around 8% within the sector has put an enormous strain on those services at the moment. but we are hearing organisations and providers going above and beyond these challenges at the moment so we are hearing of support workers moving from one area of the country to support areas where there have been staff shortages, i have heard of someone towing the caravan to outside the service so they can provide cover and people staying in hotels for a week or two while staff at billies might have been self isolating. we are doing what we can
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during these challenging times. coming back to you in a moment, but back to the point is, it is clear so many people, carers in particular, nhs staff going out of their way to help people. it can be very upsetting, frustrating for families who are not able to help their loved ones in some circumstances. it is a huge challenge for us all, really. the government have released £1.6 billion worth of funding, twice in fa ct, billion worth of funding, twice in fact, over the last ten days, and it is disappointing that isn't reaching those of front line services to better support individuals and their families. we really need to see the money moving from local authorities write down to the front line. money moving from local authorities write down to the front linem money moving from local authorities write down to the front line. it has been interesting to see how things have developed over the last few
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weeks and days because there was the initial concentration on nhs front line workers and then on to care homes. do you feel the learning disability part, that care sector, do you feel that has been ignored for a while? i think it is a com plete for a while? i think it is a complete afterthought. looking at how long it took society or the nation, the government to wake up to the care home crisis with the virus, and how long action is taking there, it stands to reason that people who are already forgotten, a group of people who already are the most socially isolated in our society, people who face a really difficult health inequalities, who have such poor outcomes when it comes to those sort of things, it is shocking, but not altogether surprising that they are now being overlooked and effectively second—class citizens. it is heartbreaking. he talked about
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how you communicate with her and how are you trying to do that? we are trying everything we can. she does not use the phone, she will send a short text messages but they are very minimal and we tried a video calling and it didn't work for her at all because it is so unfamiliar. we are now trying video messages, the family, we send her messages, things that she likes to talk about, things that she likes to talk about, things she likes to see, we are sending letters, cards, little parcels, but it is a real balance of keeping up the communication and not overwhelming her at an already difficult time and we know she is anxious. coming back to you on a separate issue but a connected one, something we will talk to the government about in 5—6 minutes, the issue of ppe, what is that provision like for this care sector at the
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moment? wholly undeveloped. a social ca re moment? wholly undeveloped. a social care has been at the end of the queue. the nhs rightly has been front and centre in dealing with the pandemic, but we must not lose sight of the role of care and support services. some organisations that we are in contact with have less than a week's ppe left, the drops that were announced a couple of weeks ago, they were inadequate, so services in some areas that on the brink in relation to ppe and we are urging government to get a grip on the supply chain and really support the nhs and social care. and what impact is it having on staff? a huge impact because of the worry, but also they are having to reuse equipment in
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some instances. the ppe is essential to keep disabled people and staff safe. if we are not going to get a second rays and incidences of this pandemic going forward. second rays and incidences of this pandemic going forwardm second rays and incidences of this pandemic going forward. it is so difficult all of this and what you we re difficult all of this and what you were talking about and what happened to barbara, you are in an impossible situation as a family. what could make the difference, do you think?” think from a family perspective, it is getting going on the testing for front line staff. all sorts of care staff, not just nhs front line staff. all sorts of care staff, notjust nhs staff or care home staff, but staff working in all sorts of different settings, whether it is apart a living or supporting someone in their own home. testing is one thing for disabled people and their staff and getting the ppe out there to protect staff and the
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people they support. and to all the support workers helping to look after her, you have the upmost respect for as well. i cannot tell you. we rely on them and my family, we are so grateful to the front line staff looking after and helping my sister at the moment and we trust them implicitly. if it wasn't for them, we would have no communication. my concern is it is not about us, we are one family and there are other families whose loved ones are in places really bad quality where the care is not good, where perhaps these staff are struggling or they do not have the right number of staff. at the moment we are incredibly grateful without them, we would have no contact with them, we would have no contact with the raana, but in the extender lockdown, the situation continues and it is really worrying. thank you for sharing your experiences with us this morning.
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thank you both very much. after half seven, we will get more reaction to that. hello, this is breakfast with louise minchin and dan walker. beautiful, come out so many blossoms out. thank you to the weather watchers for sending their men. it is sunny here, sunny in many parts of the uk today and it will be quite... the other thing we have is a weather front from france, it will push away, but by the channel islands, parts of south—west england, we will see more cloud and some spots of rain. a bit of cloud here and there but it will thin and break and we will see lots of the sun sign. here is the curve on the south—west claiming the channel
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islands, so for you and the channel islands, so for you and the channel islands, it will brighten up. down the east coast, if you are exposed to the wind, it will feel colder, the black circles give you an indication of the wind gusts you can expect, is not just indication of the wind gusts you can expect, is notjust down the east coast, it pushes in london as well for stop temperatures up to 15 degrees. the highest temperatures will be in the west. through the evening and overnight, we will see cloud of form especially across northern ireland and in the hills of north—west england. and it will be cold enough for a touch of frost, rather like the nightjust gone in north—east scotland in particular. here and there, possibly pockets, but it will not be a widespread issue. tomorrow, the cloud tending into thin and break although at times across northern ireland in western scotland, it could be thick enough for an isolated light shower,
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but really that is the exception rather than the rule. for most it will be drivers but the wind is not as strong so not feeling quite as chilly but it will not feel quite as warm if you are taking your walk along the north sea coastline. 17 degrees in glasgow. as we move from wednesday and thursday, high pressure clinging on by the skin of its teeth. look at the isobars opening up. it will not feel as cold, so much better down this north sea coastline. lots of dry weather,
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blue sky, but we are having some cloud across the north west of scotla nd cloud across the north west of scotland which is blue sky, but we are having some cloud across the north west of scotland which is a narrow band that will sink southwards but it will not last anywhere particularly long. hello, this is breakfast with louise minchin and dan walker. urging people to wear face masks when out in public could put supplies at risk for healthcare workers. that's the warning from nhs providers, the body responsible for hospital trusts in england. the government's scientific advisory committee will meet later today to discuss whether the routine wearing of masks could be effective in combating the virus. president trump has said he will suspend all immigration into the united states as a measure to tackle coronavirus. he made the announcement on twitter, saying he was acting to protect the jobs of american citizens. the us has already agreed with its neighbours in canada
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and mexico to extend border restrictions on non—essential travel, and movement is currently limited from both europe and china. later today, the government's emergency scientific committee, sage, will meet to discuss the latest advice on tackling coronavirus — including whether we should all be wearing face masks when out in public. joining us now from middlesbrough is local government minister simon clarke. thank you very much for coming on and spending some time with us this morning. can we start there, siddique khan said wearing fast masks while travelling in london should be compulsory. we get so many questions about this from our viewers every day. what is the advice, what should we be doing? we will always be guided by the advice that he emerges from the scientific community about the wearing of face masks. indeed all other questions, at the moment that there is no consensus that it is the right thing to do. we are making sure we get
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proper supplies of ppe both to the nhs and to all parts of the front line in the fight against coronavirus. as i say at this point we do not have a clear scientific sta nce to we do not have a clear scientific stance to broaden this to the general population. we would bear in mind representations from nhs providers about the need to prioritise the plight when it can do the most good. that is a point i wa nted the most good. that is a point i wanted to ask you about, if the government was to advise we should all wear masks when shopping whatever that may be, then how then given the difficulties with ppe, how would you make sure there are enough supplies for health care workers? we are doing our best to ramp up the supply of ppe both in terms of what we can produce domestically, the former head of the london 2012 olympic programme has been recruited, he has come in to make sure we bolster our domestic
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supplies and what we can purchase from abroad. we had a big shipment yesterday, we are waiting for the from turkey. we are doing our best to make sure we have the absolute largest supplies that we can attain, but we do need to bear in mind this isa but we do need to bear in mind this is a precious national resource and it is something we are in a global challenge to source, at a time when so many other countries are obviously keen to get their hands on more. therefore we would need to consider the wider context. we will ultimately be guided by what the scientific community advises as well be the best medium—term strategy. are you wearing a face mask for anything? when you go shopping now, more period wearing face masks and gloves. we are adhering to general
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guidance. we are not wearing protective equipment and i think, thatis protective equipment and i think, that is a personal choice. if people have these resources. certainly i think ourfocus have these resources. certainly i think our focus needs to be on reinforcing the key message is that ppe needs to be going to the nhs front line. we are told every day, we are asked these questions and told the government are working around the clock. we were speaking to nhs providers yesterday, he were saying there was an order for 2000 -- 200,000 saying there was an order for 2000 —— 200,000 gallons. why is it proving so difficult to get these essential items to the front line?” think we have to place this in some context, we have deployed almost a billion pieces of ppe to the front line since this crisis began, that isa line since this crisis began, that is a truly staggering number. it is in that context that some of these issues need to be understood. i share the frustration of both nhs
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providers, and the wider public about the fact that this is not straightforward. clearly we have neverin straightforward. clearly we have never in our history try to get so much ppe he so quickly. what i would say is that we are confident that we can get them right levels of supply to our hospitals and indeed more broadly to our key public sector workers who are fighting so hard against coronavirus. it is not straightforward because clearly this is an unprecedented challenge and however much we have been able to put out, and it is a huge quantity, the demand is incredible. what i would say is i can honestly attest to the enormous work both of ministers at the department of health and social care and their tea m health and social care and their team within the nhs to make sure that every sinuous train to get this to the right people. having seen it first—hand, nothing is being left undone that could be done. there is an appreciation that challenge,
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particularly from our viewers and the understanding of the global nature of this pandemic as well. you spoke about the order from turkey. cani spoke about the order from turkey. can i ask you specifically about that, the raf plane was released to collect that. where is that at the moment, is that back in the uk?” collect that. where is that at the moment, is that back in the uk? i do not have the further update beyond that the plane left to resource this. i know 140,000 gowns arrived yesterday. and the turkish shipment when it arrives will be hugely welcomed on top of that. this is just an illustration of the scale of the international effort we are devoting to pick the stuff up, wherever there is spare capacity. as we are doing so clearly, the francis doing so, germany is doing so, the us is doing so. everyone who is watching the daily guidelines and the press conference will have
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senior boss speaking on saturday. he was heralding this order from turkey. he said the order would arrive on sunday, but in fact the official order did not go on until sunday? i cannot speak to that particular chain of events because i am not on it. it is something we have taken an opportunity to buy when it presented itself. we will haveitin when it presented itself. we will have it in the uk at the first opportunity and going out to hospitals which is what we all want to see. i am interested in the confusion, i am sure you saw this on saturday. this is going to happen, we have put this order in. how did that sequence of events work?” we have put this order in. how did that sequence of events work? i am genuinely not sited on what happened there so i cannot comment on that. this will be with the nhs within the next few days and that is what we wa nt to next few days and that is what we want to see. something else we are looking at today, the a&e consultant
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who died in the royal derby hospital. what is your reaction when you see front line workers continuing to die in this crisis? obviously our hearts go out to every family of those who have lost loved ones in this crisis and particularly those who have been nhs workers on the front line. we know that 49 nhs staff have sadly lost their lives in this fight. look, they are dharma, their sacrifice will not be overlooked. and neverforgotten. and our commitment notjust overlooked. and neverforgotten. and our commitment not just as overlooked. and neverforgotten. and our commitment notjust as ministers and human beings that we will do everything we can to make sure that we get the right support into our hospitals, to make sure we absolutely minimise the risks to those who are undoubtedly putting
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themselves in harms way to save others and that is the least that we owe them and it is a solemn promise that we are determined to uphold. something we get a lot of questions and comments about every day, the use of parts and concerns about that. a lot have remained open for exercise and walking pets. is there a chance that if the death and infection rate were to drop that parks would close? what is the discussion going on in government about that? we are clear as a government that wherever possible pa rt government that wherever possible part should be open, we think access to green place is important and daily exercise is something that matters for both physical and mental health. clearly it is a massive ask of families, particularly those with young children who if you do not have access to parks at this time. so we are working very closely with local authorities to try and explore all options to allow them to open safely and that is something which
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we will continue over the days ahead. what i can say is that the majority of parks are open, we welcome this and we urge people to use them responsibly, to observe the social distancing guidelines, to not have gatherings and to make sure they are kept open for themselves and others. you are in an area where some of the parts have been closed in middlesborough?” some of the parts have been closed in middlesborough? i am in regular conversations with the mayor. we have spoken about this. i understand his reservation, that was partly prompted by poor social distancing observance in the early days of the pandemic and partly by the challenge as he sees it as of policing these parts to make sure they are used appropriately. i understand those concerns, i pledge my officials and i will work with them in order to find ways to reopen the. his term is
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that he will keep the situation under regular review. i am looking out at the park at the moment. let's hope we can get it reopen soon. thank you very much for speaking to us this morning on breakfast. the price of american crude oil has recovered slightly this morning after being worth less than nothing yesterday, meaning traders were paying to get it taken off their hands. nina's got more on this story for us this morning. good morning. dramatic scenes yesterday. take a look at this graph. after dipping below a dollar a barrel, it went below zero. at one point producers were paying buyers to ta ke point producers were paying buyers to take it away. why would that happen? across the world we are not making things we are not doing things, we do not need the oil which
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is literally the feel of the global economy yet the price has recovered. it has gone up to $136 economy yet the price has recovered. it has gone up to $1 36 this morning and it is being sold injune for $20 and it is being sold injune for $20 and barrel with recovery forecasts. there is optimism in an improvement in prices. a big part of the problem is storage in the united states, there is nowhere to put any of the oil they have been making so things could get worse in the coming weeks before they predict to improve again. what about us here? we use a different supply and production chain here in europe and offshore storage is a lot easier, so there is not that issue but there is no denying that supply is well in excess of demand at the moment around the world. you may have
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noticed a reduction in the petrol pumps. that could happen more, energy prices could come down. let's face it, we are not in the car much this morning. a global knock and value could impact and things like pensions and savings. the hope of course over we have spoken in the last few weeks will be the recovery will be swift and sharp and long—term this will not have a big impact but what it is is it is a big indicator of the state of the global economy at the moment which has literally stop to a standstill. thank you very much. on breakfast, we've been speaking to the people who are "keeping britain moving" during the pandemic and cleaners are playing a hugely important role. they're responsible for the deep cleaning, disinfecting and scrubbing of surfaces that are potential hosts of covid—19. tim muffett's been talking to some of them bout how they're coping. one thing's clear —
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hygiene's never felt so important. cleaners critical. my name is shaun whelan, and today, i'm at the ambulance station. obviously, the paramedics are coming into contact with people now that have got the virus, and when they come back, they're touching surfaces. this job is vitally important at the moment with the current virus going around. shaun often cleans six ambulance stations across north wales in one shift. obviously, they're bringing in infections. i need to protect myself and the family. i have a disabled wife. sometimes it makes it a really big risk, but we've got to crack on. but, obviously, since this virus has come out, a lot of people have taken notice of the jobs that we do. lorraine and her daughter charlene clean at a community hospital in essex. how has your work been, how challenging has it been? it's in your mind the whole time that what if someone's got it or are they showing symptoms?
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but i think you just have to get on with things. what would happen if everyone thought, "oh, i can't do it"? everything would come to a standstill. nothing would work without everybody. but without us, the situation would be a lot worse. you know, everything has to stay clean, everything has to run as it should. lorraine's other daughter candice felt her mum and sister weren't getting the recognition they deserved. her facebook post got a huge response. my mum's diabetic, my sister, you know, has got two boys and she's a single parent. i think what they do is incredible. i think it's taken something like this, this big, this huge for people to appreciate and realise the importance of the jobs that they are doing. how does it feel to hear your sister and your daughter talk like that? it's lovely, it's really nice. makes me feel all warm! yeah, it gives me a lump in my throat! i'm a night domestic,
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just on my way to work now. samir cleans at new cross hospital in wolverhampton. the west midlands has been a covid—19 hot spot. he works alongside another cleaner, shane. the job that we do, it is important as anyone else. without us cleaners, the hospital would've been shutdown by now due to health and safety and the cleanliness. now, you both say you are able to access the correct ppe equipment, but do you still feel at risk? every time you walk in, you just think, you know, your life is at risk. it feels like a different stage where you have take even more precautions, wear the right ppe before you go in, take it off. do you feel people are appreciating what you do more than they did before? we're not really noticed in general, but now, we have been, and it does feel very nice to be appreciated. job satisfaction and, at last, recognition and respect. a clean sweep. tim muffett, bbc news.
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that is nice, finally some recognition. that is important, and as the crisis continues, we and the general public are trying to find all those people who have not had their moment in the spotlight for the great work they do and shinea spotlight for the great work they do and shine a light on it. our next guests are no strangers to big expeditions, and now they're taking on another challenge, but this time from the comfort of their own homes. adventurer bear grylls and astronaut tim peake and scouts from all over the country are taking part in a "virtual" trek to the moon in aid of bbc one's big night in this thursday. let's take a look as the mission gets under way. look, there's a river! and there may be hidden crocodiles and sharks. don't worry, let's
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hold hands and swim. and we can speak to tim now, along with adventurer bear grylls who is leading the expedition. this is quite an undertaking. how far have you got to go in miles? well, the total distance is 240,000 miles. we have got half a million scouts in this country, comic relief came to us and asked us to mobilise that force for good in the uk to try and help those most affected. tim is in an incredible scouting ambassador and an amazing astronaut. so why don't we try and do a hike to the moon? people can do it anywhere. i am in my garage at the moment, i
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reckon about 20 metres long, one male, 1600 metres, 80 laps of this andi male, 1600 metres, 80 laps of this and i am doing an hour every morning as many miles as i can and together it is about helping those most affected by corona. the stories coming out are amazing. it is special to see those videos, kids all across the country doing this and my message to all of you younger scouts and volunteers giving so much, first of all you are amazing and secondly keep hiking, keep raising funds, every penny makes a huge difference. thank you for what you are doing. tim, bed will be working in his garage. but will you be doing? i decided to do it up and down the stairs because there are many people who do not have the access to the outdoors or gardens,
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but i thought if we are going to the moon, i thought gaining altitude would be good to be part of it. so you have been into space, so if they we re you have been into space, so if they were walking to space, what is the view going to be like as they are doing their work? it will be incredible. from the international space centre at 500 kilometres, we get a great view, but nothing like the apollo astronauts will have seen from 400,000 kilometres, that is the
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point at which the earth can be hidden behind your thumb you are so far away. that if you were to change over that journey. but i far away. that if you were to change over thatjourney. but i have had the pleasure of talking to several apollo astronauts and some of the moon workers, 11 out of the 12 men workers were scouts, so it is great to talk to them and hear about the views of planet earth, spectacular. and bear, there will be people watching this, and they will think there is tim peake, bear grylls, what would be the encouraging words? it is the same advice for people going through tough times, it is
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about not giving up and staying part ofa about not giving up and staying part of a community that supports you and thatis of a community that supports you and that is why all of these scouting stories coming in are so inspiring, eve ryo ne stories coming in are so inspiring, everyone doing a little bit, people stuck at home want to feel they are doing their bit and they are helping and it is sometimes hard when you are stuck at home. this is a brilliant way to do it. tim, you are an incredible ambassador, but for the hundreds and thousands of volu nteers the hundreds and thousands of volunteers and scouts out there, this is our time, we will hike the moon and we will help change so many lives at the moment for people really battling the whole coronavirus issue. we can do it together, never give up.” coronavirus issue. we can do it together, never give up. i think you make a very good point, so many people are doing incredible things but people are responding to being pa rt but people are responding to being part of a team, which is just fantastic. tim, you are no stranger to isolation. because it is really ha rd to isolation. because it is really hard for people, people are in their own situation, but what is the advice you have? it is really hard and different people will be struggling for different reasons, but i think whatever your circumstances, i think structure, routine and i are best friends in isolation, staying busy, we are very busy on the space station but we have a great routine and it means to
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help manage everybody because my expectations, we know what is supposed to be happening and when. that helps avoid conflict, communicating with those people you are living with his hugely important as well and having something every day to look forward to, something pa rt of day to look forward to, something part of your daily routine that you can enjoy and that helps you get through this difficult time. what we do with the scouts is the community and feeling like you are part of something bigger. if you can reach out to other people, being part of the community, that really helps get you through as well. we have talked about it on the programme today, being separated from families, it can bea being separated from families, it can be a real worry for people. huge one, my greatest fear on the space station was if something happened to my family at home and i am not in a position to help, not in am not in a position to help, not in a position to go there. all of us are finding ourselves in that position there, separated from loved ones and not in a position to help and it adds to our stress. trying to keep in touch with friends and family, trying to reassure each other is a hugely important part of getting through this. listening to tim there after spending all that
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time on the space station and the link to the moon, i don't know if you knew this, but apparently 11 of the 12 people who walked on the moon we re the 12 people who walked on the moon were scouts so there is a great historical link to this as well. we love that and it is an amazing statistic, that 11 of them were scouts, and i think it is because scouts, and i think it is because scouts give people an ability to go for things in life and the training and not just adventure for things in life and the training and notjust adventure skills but also life skills. and i think to go to the moon, be in space you have to be the ultimate team player, got to learn how to get on with people in difficult places and this is what the scouts were always good at. it is very hard at the moment, half a million scouts used to being in the community, they are at home and they are trained to be kind and helpful and this is a brilliant way for all the scouts to be able to be kind and be able to be helpful and help those
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most affected. well done, scouts. keep hiking and never give up. you are doing something amazing.” keep hiking and never give up. you are doing something amazing. i love your enthusiasm, smiling through the camera. talking about structure during this strange time, how are you dealing with your days, apart from being part of this huge challenge? i have got three young boys so it is definitely always lively. school starts today for them, for some of them, so getting up them, for some of them, so getting up early and getting their work done. ifind a daily work—out up early and getting their work done. i find a daily work—out really helps, it is all about community and bringing veterans from the military together. obviously now this week is all about the hike to the moon so we are getting the walking shoes back on. it is about community, doing things together and doing things for
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other people. and those are two really powerful things in life that it is important we don't forget and the whole crisis we are going through is a reminder of the power of kindness and doing things together and the power of resilience. and those are all great scouting qualities. the star is coming in are really beautiful and powerful. a lovely way to leave it. thank you very much, gentlemen. enjoy these stairs and the garage! good luck to everyone taking part. the bbc‘s big night in takes place on thursday from 7pm on bbc one. dan and! dan and i will be taking part in what i call the big bike in and you can find out more details on how social media. iam social media. i am regretting it already! let's find out what the weather will find out what the weather i am regretting it already! let's find out what the weather will be doing for the next few days. good morning. this morning we have
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had beautiful weather watches pictures in. this lovely spring the scene with the lambs. the sun is out in worcestershire, the sun is out in many parts of the country and will remain so. we are looking at another blue sky day with brisk easterly winds like yesterday. we also have the weather front here that through the weather front here that through the day will be moving away from the channel islands and the south—west, the rain clearing the channel islands but we have spots across parts of the south—west of england, moving away during the morning. for scotland, it has been a cold start, temperatures fell at lower than —5 in braemar. some shine for northern ireland and northern england, the wind coming in from the north sea however, and it will feel cool on the coastline. a lot of sunshine for wales and the rest of southern england and east anglia. that continues through the afternoon, you can see how the cloud moves away,
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some shine later on and the same across the channel islands, sunshine coming for you too. temperatures 11 to 15 degrees but are tempered by the easterly breeze as we move further west, 20 to 21 degrees in cardiff. this evening and overnight, bits and pieces of cloud, some of it will be low cloud across northern england, southern scotland, and comes enough in the north east for a touch of frost. here and there we could see the art a packet of frost but for most we won't. the low cloud tomorrow will disperse, at times a bit more cloud in northern ireland and western scotland, you will see the odd isolated shower from that but most will stay dry and temperatures up to 21 degrees. the winds will be lighter so not as chilly down the north sea coastline.
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as we headed to thursday, winds much lighter so it will feel much lighter, a lot of sunshine around, more cloud in the north west, but it will not last terribly long with temperatures getting up to 23 or 25. somewhere in the south—east could see 25. friday, early mist and fog patches in eastern scotland and lots of dry weather once again. the headlines are coming next.
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good morning, welcome to breakfast, with dan walker and louise minchin. our headlines today. masks for the public could put nhs supplies at risk. a warning from hospital bosses as government advisers meet to review policy. "well—loved" and "hugely respected" — tributes to accident and emergency consultant manjeet singh riyat who has died after contracting covid—19. the government rejects claims that it was too slow to cancel large sporting events. it's after some coronavirus deaths were blamed on liverpool's champions league game against athletico madrid last month. and he's already raised nearly £30 million for the nhs — now, captain tom is to open yorkshire's nightingale hospital.
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it's tuesday 21st april. our top story. the latest measures to tackle the coronavirus pandemic — including whether people should be told to wear masks when not at home — will be discussed by the government's scientific advisory committee later today. nhs providers, the body that looks after hospital trusts in england, has warned this could lead to further shortages for staff amid concerns that health workers are still dying from the virus. andy moore reports. manjeet singh riyat was the uk's first sikh a&e consultant. he died at the hospital in derby where he worked. he was described as "hugely—respected" as well as "much—loved". today, expert government advisers will discuss whether the general public should wear face masks. many countries in europe have adopted the policy. the mayor of london says they should be worn on public transport. but nhs providers, the organisation
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that represents trusts in england, warns that masks might be in short supply for frontline health professionals if the general public are scrambling to find them. yesterday's figure for hospital deaths with coronavirus in the uk stood at 449, bringing the total to 16,509. hospital in admissions with covid are roughly stable across the country as a whole but falling in the capital. here in london, this is now the seventh day in a row that those numbers have fallen. so that means the balance between people going into hospital because they've fallen ill, and people who are going home because they are well again now, is in the opposite direction so that there are fewer people each day in hospital with covid. but there will be more official figures out this morning showing the number of deaths in care homes. last week's figures showed 210 deaths. many people in the care sector say the true toll numbers in the thousands.
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there's the blue way, putting our gowns on. parts of the nhs continue to experience problems getting a hold of personal protection equipment. over the weekend, ministers said a flight was due to arrive from turkey shortly with 400,000 much—needed gowns. an raf aircraft has flown to istanbul to pick up the shipment but there is no word on when it will return. andy moore, bbc news. well, later today, parliament will reconvene following its easter recess — but with some changes to comply with social distancing measures. our political correspondent iain watsonjoins us now from westminster — what changes will be in place? a little bit different. we won't see that many mps in the chamber. before that many mps in the chamber. before that extended easter break, we did see quite a lot of mps bunching up
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together on those green benches including the prime minister and health secretary who both then came down with coronavirus. the numbers in the chamber will be limited to 50, the range of video screens will mean mps can take part in video conferencing asking questions remotely. the emphasis will be on a limited service, a bit like transport, limiting the number of mps who can participate, perhaps only a quarter of those who would normally be there. they will have to give their questions in, in advance, and if selected, they can question ministers, and put down urgent questions to drag ministers into answer. they won't be able to provide the full parliamentary service include passing new laws. the new arrangements will stay in place until the 12th of may, then, they will have to do something more radical if the lockdown continues,
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such as electronic voting. even though people are taking part from their own home, they will have to dress a bit like this, with a shirt and tie, the house of commons dress code will not be relaxed. thank you for bringing us up—to—date. president trump has said he will suspend all immigration into the united states as a measure to tackle coronavirus. he made the announcement on twitter, saying he was acting to protect the jobs of american citizens. the us has already agreed with its neighbours in canada and mexico to extend border restrictions on nonessential travel, and movement is currently limited from both europe and china. dentists in england are facing "critical shortages" in ppe, forcing patients with urgent problems to "take matters into their own hands" — that's the warning from the british dental association. it comes after practices were told to suspend routine appointments
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and set up emergency hubs instead to help slow the spread of the coronavirus. the government's chief dental officer said work is ongoing to ensure ppe is available. germany has started to ease some of its restrictions on movement but says a decision will be made later today over whether its famous oktoberfest will go ahead this year. the world's largest beer festival had been due to start in mid—september, but is expected to be cancelled due to the coronavirus. the event attracts around six million visitors to munich every year. her majesty the queen turns 94 today, but the usual gun salutes in london's hyde park have been cancelled for the first time in her 68—year reign. trooping the colour, which marks the queen's official birthday in june, has already been cancelled, with no alternative plan expected to be put in its place. good morning, you are watching bbc
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brea kfast. in ten minutes, we have a lovely couple who will come on to speak to us. ken who used to sleep with a photo of his late wife every night in his care home, and his carer made him a little gift and presented it to him, and emotional moment. they will be here in ten minutes. the risks taken by frontline workers treating coronavirus patients have been highighted by the growing number of deaths. last week, sonya kaygan, a carer who worked at a home in london, died in hospital after spending two weeks in intensive care, she was 26—years—old. let's speak to her cousin, sherrie afifi. good morning, thank you forjoining us. i know you wanted to talk to us about her, tell us a little bit. good morning, everyone. she has been
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a carerfor the good morning, everyone. she has been a carer for the last couple of yea rs. a carer for the last couple of years. she was on the front line caring for elderly people. and sadly, we lost her last friday, age 26. it is a huge shock to my family. especially because she was so young. she had no underlying health problems. she was on the front line, caring for people, and looking after the elderly, doing what she loved to do, which was to care for people, and to be kind. it breaks my heart, it really does. she has a little girl. she does, she leaves behind a 3—year—olds girl. sorry. we totally understand. thank you for talking to us. don't say anything more than you want to talk about. i know her little girl is being looked
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after by her mum. sadly, leaving behind her three—year—old, she was a single parent, so, her mother is now looking after the 3—year—olds. her mother was a carer herself, they we re mother was a carer herself, they were both carers, both extremely hard—working people. were both carers, both extremely ha rd—working people. her were both carers, both extremely hard—working people. her mother would work during the day as a carer, and then they would share the responsibility of looking after the young child. and now, my poor aunt is on her own, isolated, dealing with grief, just lost her daughter, we can't be around her to support her, hold her and we can't be around her to support her, hold herand hug we can't be around her to support her, hold her and hug her. we can't be around her to support her, hold herand hug her. it we can't be around her to support her, hold her and hug her. it is incredibly difficult. now, the responsibility is all with her, having to look after a three—year—old child and deal with the fact this 3—year—olds is asking
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her every day where her mum is. it is not just her every day where her mum is. it is notjust the emotional impact which is absolutely devastating, she also has a financial issues to deal with as well. yes, exactly. the full responsibility is now with her. that was the reason behind starting a fund raise because i felt in the moments of despair and shot, i didn't know what else i could do to help her. the anything i could think of was, together, we need to get together as a community and help her in the best way we can. it is incredibly sad, it really is. i know people are being incredibly generous and reaching out to you and the family as well. yes. it has been incredible to see how everybody has been so supportive, the messages we have all
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received, the fundraise is incredible. i am received, the fundraise is incredible. iam blown received, the fundraise is incredible. i am blown away by people's generosity. i have been reading the comments which have been left by everybody. one that really stuck with me was left by a nine—year—old, and i must say, it said, iam nine—year—old, and i must say, it said, i am donating because i am nine years old and i can't imagine losing my parents. i hope this gift helps. that is adorable, isn't it, thank you to that nine—year—old, by the way. we know as well where she worked, the ca re know as well where she worked, the care home said it had a good supply of ppe. i know you have had no concerns about that. i have, definitely. —— i know you have had concerns. i know 15 people
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passed away in that same care home which leads me to believe something had gone wrong. whether they have ppe now, i can say my cousin did not at the time. she was wearing just a general mask and gloves she would wear before the pandemic, so nothing really changed in the way she was protected at work during this time. it is incredibly frustrating for all of us because carers need this attention. my cousin, 26 years old, this could have been prevented. she was too young to lose her life, way too young. she was so careful herself as well. she bought her own mask. often my cousin would even drive her into work to prevent her having to get public transport because she knew she was looking after vulnerable, she did not want to put them at risk in any way. she did all of that to protect herself
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and yet this tragic thing still happened to her, and it is so sad. i do not feel in my heart everything was done to protect her and to protect all the other carers out there currently in this same position she was in. you know this statement, our homes have a good supply of ppe, our teams have a good supply of ppe, our teams have been using it meticulously in line with guidance. what you would like is, from now on, that things change and people are looked after. exactly. we knew at the very start of coronavirus, i have said this before, and it still stands, that the elderly were the most affected, they would be at high risk. and yet ca re they would be at high risk. and yet care homes are only now being discussed now. dish should have been dug months ago. we knew this was coming. it is so upsetting to even hear that testing is not even being offered yet. 15 people in that care
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home had coronavirus and had lost their life. they did not happen in their life. they did not happen in the last week, that must have happened before her. the fact she was put in that environment and she is wearing gloves and just a face mask, when we had people in other parts of the world come in airports, wearing face shields, protecting themselves, and our carers are on themselves, and our carers are on the front nine without what they need to protect themselves, it is very sad. i am so incredibly frustrated. there is no need to be sorry. thank you very much, i can see you are absolutely passionate about things changing and what happened with your cousin. thank you for your time. thank you for your time. thank you. joining us now is nadra ahmed from the national care association to give us the wider picture of what is currently happening in care homes. iam sure i am sure you like everyone else listening to that heartbreaking
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story, to pick up on the focus on ca re story, to pick up on the focus on care homes, do you think it has come too late? good morning. yes, it is heartbreaking listening to that. i think it has been very reactive. we did not have a proactive approach. we weren't involved in all the planning to start with and the sow that resulted in the resilience of our providers working things out for themselves. guidelines were not a lwa ys themselves. guidelines were not always very helpful to start with. and the challenge that our providers have faced has been based on the fa ct have faced has been based on the fact that it is, it has been to reactive. we are a sector that has a lwa ys reactive. we are a sector that has always worked with local government, and with the nhs, that is what we do. we are looking after the people identified quite rightly as being the most at risk. and yet, any
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planning, any thought working towards this, we were omitted, we we re towards this, we were omitted, we were not involved. i think that is a huge mistake and lessons have to be learned from that. cani learned from that. can i ask about your staff as well. speaking earlier about the situation, the natural anxiety at a time like this. what effect are you seeing? i think staff are being resilient as always. they are an amazing team of people who have continued to work in social ca re who have continued to work in social care for many years. but the anxiety levels will be high. people are worried, worried especially if they do not have the appropriate ppe. providers are a sourcing this at extortionate prices. somebody somewhere is making money out of it
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and that is wrong. we also need to really be thinking very carefully about support for the sector, making sure we can zero rate, maybe the vat evenin sure we can zero rate, maybe the vat even ina sure we can zero rate, maybe the vat even in a short—term plan, it needs to bea even in a short—term plan, it needs to be a plan that will support them because the most important thing is the support for people in our services. the vast majority of them are ok. and then, also, because our staff, we have to protect the people who are looking after them. we are doing everything possible. the testing has come now. we were asking for testing weeks ago to be part of the solution to keeping people safe. and yet, that is coming now. it is a little bit erratic but we are grateful it is there. many providers are trying to source it as quickly as they can. but staffing will
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a lwa ys as they can. but staffing will always be an issue for us, we had 122,000 vacancies before. getting a migrant workforce in, that was being closed up with no willingness to work towards supporting us in that line. we need to be thinking strategically about where we are going. care homes are about keeping people safe, it is important to stress that. the figures that you see, it is distressing to lose one person in a care service, let alone the numbers we are looking at. but the numbers we are looking at. but the vast majority are safe and they are well. these are unavoidable issues in many cases, if we have the appropriate support, the ppe in place to start with so people weren't struggling to get it. and if the money which has been allocated to the local authorities, and they
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have additional grants i understand. thank you, very good to talk to you, we appreciate your insight. despite the challenges facing care workers we've heard some amazing stories about how they're going above and beyond the call of duty to protect vulnerable residents. when employees at ken benbow‘s home noticed he slept with a picture of his late wife by his bedside, they decided to make him a special gift to comfort him during lockdown. let's take a look. hello. i've got you a present. what's that, darling? 0h!
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oh, darling. show us what you've got, ken. 0h, ken. how beautiful. 0h. i thought that might be a bit better than your photograph. come here. we can speak now to ken and kia who gave him the gift. there you are with the cushion. give us an idea, when you've got the question, how much of a surprise was that for you? it was wonderful, the best surprise anyone could ever have ada, is that your late wife? you
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we re ada, is that your late wife? you were sleeping with pictures of your late wife by the side of your bed in the home. have you had conversations about aider before? we have spoken about aider. we have spoken about aider. we speak about her very often. how did you come up with this clearly love the idea? because the photo was a glass framed one which he has on his wall, and he speaks at night to her, don't you? i take it to bed with me. and every morning and every night. it was lovely to see that reaction when you got the cushion aider. tell usa when you got the cushion aider. tell us a little bit about your late wife, what was she she was the most wonderful, caring wife anyone could
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have. she never did anything wrong in her life and, as a young man, iwasn't fairon her, i life and, as a young man, iwasn't fair on her, i used to go drinking with the boys, and leave her at home with the boys, and leave her at home with the boys, and leave her at home with the school children. when i say my prayers every night, i ask forgiveness for that. iam sure forgiveness for that. i am sure she did give you forgiveness. how long were you married? 71 years. that is a wonderful, what a wonderful thing to celebrate as well. it was indeed. it broke my heart when i lost, when she left me but i have got her every night in my arms now. you obviously have great affection for ken and tell us what it is like working with him? it is amazing, every day is funny.
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some days, he is pottering about, dancing around. he is an amazing person. i learned from him every day. it is lovely to see. is it right you have moved in so you are looking after ken full—time? yes. we are a big care home. we have a lot of people to protect. it is the safest thing to do. there are too many precious people that we work for to put at risk. ken, what do you think of the fact that carers are now moving into look after you? words cannot explain howl after you? words cannot explain how i feel. before i came to this home, i was the treasurer of the blackpool
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branch of the veterans community. and to see some of them in some of the homes, it was not nice at all. and when we came here, which i had promised to my wife i would never put her in a care home, so, neither of us wanted to come into a care home. but my daughter said would i come for a fortnight's holiday. and we came and on the first week here, my wife says to me, oh, i like it in here. i have loved it ever since. and you couldn't have a better home, a more loving staff and management.
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everyone, the cooks, the laundry people, the cleaners, oh, it's wonderful. it is lovely to hear you have had such a great experience of that. i can see you proudly wearing your vectoring hat. what sort of operations were you involved in come in the services? what sort of operations where you involved in? i was involved in? iwas in involved in? i was in the royal navy. you can show your badges. hiding them! i was on the north atlantic convoys where we sank to german u—boats. i was on other convoys when we were getting attacked by 25 submarines at one time. iwas attacked by 25 submarines at one time. i was on the invasion of sicily. i was on the invasion of italy. we then went back into the
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north atlantic on convoy duty. and then, on the bay of biscay, guarding, trying to sink some of the u—boats coming in, in france. iwas on d—day on june u—boats coming in, in france. iwas on d—day onjune the 6th, on the landings on normandy. after that, we had a refit, i went out to the far east. we joined the american involvement. i was on the first british ship in the pacific. we went to australia. and then come up to the philippines which was our base. and there we formed the british fleet trades which was full of aircraft carriers, battleships, cruisers, tankers, troop ships, set up cruisers, tankers, troop ships, set up by cruisers, tankers, troop ships, set up by ships —— supply ships. and we set off for the invasion ofjapan.
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and as we passed okinawa, we got involved in the kamikaze pilots who we re involved in the kamikaze pilots who were coming down and attacking our aircraft. it was quite a battle ken, iwant aircraft. it was quite a battle ken, i want to ask you, what inspired you, what an incredible career you had, what inspired you to sign up in the first place? well, i left school at 13, and i got a job as well, i left school at 13, and i got ajob as an well, i left school at 13, and i got a job as an errand boy in a shop. and it was a shop that provided farmers with their cattle food. so, ona farmers with their cattle food. so, on a wednesday, market day, the farmers would come in to sell their cattle, and would come into our shop and pay for their supplies of food,
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and pay for their supplies of food, and order the next month's supply. so, i had to be in eight cases at the same time, to get connections on the same time, to get connections on the buses and trains. so, my firm gave me a driver and a lorry every market day so that i could be placing orders. and i got down to the station, and a troop train came in with the wounded from dunkirk. and i saw these, because i lived in oswe stry and i saw these, because i lived in oswestry in shropshire. we had a big artillery camp there, and a big hospital, the orthopaedic. so, all these soldiers would come into be taken these soldiers would come into be ta ken care of. these soldiers would come into be taken care of. and i cried my eyes out when i saw these. so, when i got back to the shop, they sent me home, they told me to go home on
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wednesday. and i came back on monday. and on the phone thursday i we nt monday. and on the phone thursday i went and volunteered for the army. but i was only 14. so, they wouldn't have me ivolunteered but i was only 14. so, they wouldn't have me i volunteered for the army, the air force, the navy and marines. and we put our age on all the time. because my cousin and eye, he was six months or older, he got in before me, and he ended up on the queens flight and he made a career and he had a commission. what an amazing story. you are listening in so carefully. you are 17i listening in so carefully. you are 17 i think. ken is 94. there is this wonderful crossgenerational relationship. he must have some amazing stories he tells you. 0h, amazing stories he tells you. oh, yes, every day. and we look through the photo albums in his room is full to the top of photos. a lot —— what were the ones you showed me
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yesterday? with loads of tiny little photos, one big one. when he was a young boy. and he hasn't changed at all, have you! amazing. care, just a thought on this lovely cushion. what do you think about how you are looked after? she said, i forgot, what did you say? what does he think of the way you look after him! what do you think of the way we look after you? well, excellent, i cannot explain it. not a fault with them, anywhere! it's a perfect home. clea n them, anywhere! it's a perfect home. clean home. good food. cooked to perfection! you could not wish for anything better. i'm glad the food is good. just one last thing, we
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showed the video view being given that cushion, millions of people have now watched that, what is that like to think of the fact so many people watching you get this cushion with your late wife on it? they are loving your reaction and the emotion and the fact that the staff have gone out of their way to make your day and life that little bit special? did you hear that? i cannot explain in words. all of them, really, they are like angels. they look after us, we are not wanting for anything. such a lovable place, management is perfect, everything. it'sjust as good management is perfect, everything. it's just as good when you've got residents as good as ken. such an amazing place, the home has done amazing. it's a lovely place, honestly. can you give us a bit of perspective as well? we are living
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in uncertain times. people having to change their lives in ways they had not expected. you've lived through a lot. what would your advice be to people? what's your advice? well, i cannot understand, the carers in the ca re cannot understand, the carers in the care homes, forgotten for so long. it's only recently it's come to the forefront, what they do. they could not do more. i used to have a home carer come to my home before i came in here. she was wonderful. she would do anything for us. i came in here and the same goes on. wonderful places. they deserve more attention. the government have been wrong, they haven't thought of them at all. it's time they pulled their fingers out and do what they say they are going to do. it's a real pleasure to talk
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to do. it's a real pleasure to talk to you today! to share a bed of the love and affection you have for the home and the staff and i hope this relationship continues. to let you know, so many people watching you this morning. lovely reaction from people saying ken, what a legend you are, people saying ken, what a legend you a re, lovely story people saying ken, what a legend you are, lovely story to listen to and people are amazed by your example, of being a truly caring person, working in your profession, the relationship between the two of you, there's one person here lisa, says watching you gives her real hope in a difficult situation. what's that like to hear? i know, i didn't expect any of this at all. but literally, we recorded it, it's such a special moment and we thought come up a special moment and we thought come up with all this going on, it's something good that everyone can see
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and can share we've got a lot of people that cannot see family members but for ken, he's not going to be able to so to be able, we just never thought it would go like that at all. honest to god, it was just so overwhelming. i'm so happy we've had so many positive comments and so much support. recognition. your little pillow. how amazing this man is! it's a realjoy to speak to you both. from here, it looks like you are family so thank you very much indeed forjoining us, you've done a great thing, ken, it is so lovely to hear from you. thank you both very much. and thank you for your service, both of you, great to talk to you. what a bunch of superstars. it's so lovely. here's carol with a look at this morning's weather. lots of things going on, isn't there, carol? good morning. connell
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has quite a bit of cloud, but that will player through the day, the sun will player through the day, the sun will come out, in st andrew's, beautiful start to the day. as a distro many parts of the uk. most of us today dry and sunny day, we still have that brisk easterly breeze, rather like the one we had yesterday. rotating around an area of high pressure. this weather front producing the cloud in the channel islands and the south—west of england, pulling away, taking the last rem na nts england, pulling away, taking the last remnants of rent with it in doing so. for most of us we are off toa dry doing so. for most of us we are off to a dry start, remaining sold through the day. fair bit of sunshine, brightening up in the channel islands and later in the south—west of england. with this keen easterly breeze coming from the north sea, it will feel quite chilly. even in land, we are looking at gusty winds, illustrated by the black circles. temperature wise today, along the north sea coastline, looking at about 11—14d don't forget, tempered by the breeze
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and as we move further west, 20 or 21 in cardiff, 16, 17 in belfast. this evening and overnight there will be bits and pieces of low cloud forming, also some frost again come across parts of north—east scotland, possibly northern england as well. for most of us, frost free night. the wind will be slowly starting to ease. tomorrow that continues. still chilly along the north sea coast, not as chilly as today. lots of sunshine. at times a little bit more cloud across northern ireland and scotland, the chance of an isolated shower. temperatures tomorrow between 12 in in the north, 21 or 22 in the south—west. carol, thank you very much. hello, this is breakfast with louise minchin and dan walker. let's bring you some of the main stories this morning. urging people to wear face masks when out in public could put supplies at risk for
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healthcare workers. that's the warning from nhs providers, the body responsible for hospital trusts in england. the government's scientific advisory committee will meet later today to discuss whether the routine wearing of masks could be effective in combating the virus. president trump has said he will suspend all immigration into the united states as a measure to tackle coronavirus. he made the announcement on twitter, saying he was acting to protect the jobs of american citizens. the us has already agreed with its neighbours in canada and mexico to extend border restrictions on non—essential travel, and movement is currently limited from both europe and china. as the number of frontline workers dying with coronavirus increases and concerns over the supply of protective equipment remain, questions are being asked about the safety of nurses working in the community and at care homes. the royal college of nursing says it's getting "many distraught calls" from its members about the shortage of ppe. let's speak now to theresa fyffe, from the royal college of nursing. good morning to you and thank you so much forjoining us. what sort of things people telling you? the care
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home sector you have 19,000 care homes providing care to 270,000 of the most vulnerable in our community and that alone, is alongside the ca re and that alone, is alongside the care in the community, whether it's mental health, learning disability and all of these so there is a lot of concern out there because the focus from the outset was more on hospitals rather than care in the community and care homes. do they feel they are being put in dangerous situations? across the whole country there has been improvement and people are hearing now, it's been a long time coming, understanding they have to take action for care homes and communities. organisations in scotland have been working hard to have the issues coming from their members raised. the national care forum in england has also raised concerns. it's now out there. out in the open. it was very hidden. people didn't realise there was actually this issue within care homes unless
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you go into care homes but of course nobody is going into care homes because of coronavirus. it has been the invisible service. but at least now it's out in the open and action needs to be taken. you say action needs to be taken. you say action needs to be taken, its out in the open but in the meantime, we've seen people are working right now. yes, indeed. you know, the social care plan for england was only announced at the end of the week last week. it has a at the end of the week last week. it hasa numberof at the end of the week last week. it has a number of measures in there that will be very welcome for the ca re that will be very welcome for the care home sector. but action needs to happen now. they need supplies of personal protective equipment, they need testing. staff need to be tested. the patience, residence within care homes need to be tested, they are symptomatic, but if they are going to transform people from the nhs system to the care sector they should be tested, that should bea they should be tested, that should be a priority, and where the testing centres are it's not going to help staff in care homes. at the moment. they are too far away. after a long
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shift, that is not going to work for them so they need to think differently about how they test both staff and residents within the care homes. i want to go back to what i asked you before, the rcn has previously said not treating patients would be a last resort. not treating patients for example if someone did not have the right equipment. are you close to that as a reality or what's going on? this is the last thing that a nurse would wa nt is the last thing that a nurse would want to do or anyone providing care because it's not where they are we are emphasising, the steps, escalating and raising concerns, is a first measure they need to take and if they believe that their safety, remember it for a nurse or a ca re safety, remember it for a nurse or a care worker, it's notjust the safety of themselves, it's the safety of themselves, it's the safety of the community they live m, safety of the community they live in, theirfamilies, and others. if they get exposed to covid19 and become ill with it, they will take that back into their community and on their family. you know, for an
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individual to do that it would be a difficult measure. but if they don't improve the provision of personal protective equipment, they don't improve the testing, then our members will feel that they are put into a very difficult place. it's interesting looking at some of the survey done, 25% of responders working in high—risk environments have not had a mask properly fitted, 50% don't have access to suitable washing facilities. some of these figures are worrying, aren't they? they are indeed and from the outset we have been calling for the testing of equipment, there equipment coming into the country and what's important is when that comes in, of course they will know it's been given, it will be suitable for the test they require when they order it but when they come to use it they must fit test equipment, make sure the equipment works for its staff because we have had issues with some equipment that comes in, when fit tested, isn't appropriate because
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equipment not fitting or working is no better than having no equipment at all. people need to know how to use the equipment, don't they? training became an issue in the survey and i want to come back to theissue survey and i want to come back to the issue of washing and laundry facilities. we raise this from the beginning. some areas have got adequate washing and laundry facilities, some have not come up in the past they've been taken away. we are urging everyone to be very aware that this is important, important for the safety of our communities. it is about the individual nurse, the individual care worker but it's also about our communities and their families. we note the government scientific advisory body is meeting today and one of the things on the agenda is to discuss about members of the public wearing masks. what's your view on that? it's a challenging one. this is where the evidence is at heart, evidence is used to develop where we are and educate competing arguments about evidence, don't you? different
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scientists now saying this is not the case masks are difficult. at the case masks are difficult. at the moment the evidence isn't clear that everybody wearing masks and i would be really concerned just now that health care workers and those caring for people with covid19 would have a problem in accessing masks if we move to that. we would need to be clear that we would have enough quantity of masks to be able to take that action. i appreciate your time. thank you for speaking to us on breakfast this morning. it's approaching quarter to nine. thank you for being with us. as we've been hearing this morning lots of us are looking for ways to support key workers through the pandemic and 91—year—old eva bowers has her own special way of letting them know they're appreciated. she's paying tribute to the thousands of lorry drivers delivering supplies up and down the country by waving at them from a motorway bridge. let's hear why she's doing it. since we've been in lock in i haven't been able to go uptown so after i've had my dinner i take
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a little walk down the lane and stand there and the lorry drivers who wave and everything, it passes time away for me as well. and i get the fresh air. it's something that i've done for a long, long time and it's brought pleasure to a lot of them lorry drivers because they've pipped and they've waved, and i thought, well, maybe they've got pleasure out of me stood there. another superstar! david is one of the drivers who saw eva and he was so moved by her actions that he tracked her down and gave her a special gift. we can speak to him now. david, where are you at the moment? i've just reached france on my way to germany. and just stopping now
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for a quick break and then i will carry on. you were in the uk and you saw eva on the bridge, what did you think when you saw her for the first time? ijust thought it think when you saw her for the first time? i just thought it was a normal truck spotter, i am flashing and waving and then as i got closer, your truck spotter is normally have cameras and it were just this little old there and she was just leaning over the bridge, just resting on the bridge and she's clapping away and asi bridge and she's clapping away and as i got closer i thought, well! and she sat there, and clapping away and with so much pride, it made me so happy. i don't know about the concept of a truck spotter, do you get people watching you on bridges, quite a bit? yes, there's a lot of people standing on bridges, taking photos of trucks. you know, just marking numbers down, mainly they ta ke p hotos marking numbers down, mainly they take photos of the trucks and they like trucks. that's what i thought eva was at first, i thought she was a truck spotter, so i'm giving her a bit of a flash, a bit of a horn, and
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i thought, what is she doing and as i got closer, she was standing there, she is old and clapping away andi there, she is old and clapping away and i was just took away by it. obviously, that's part one of the story, from seeing eva on the bridge, you are thinking she's lovely, thank you very much and you have to try and find out where she is, who she is, try and get her a gift so how on earth did you do that? i started in the surrounding areas. as i was driving i was on the phone with one of my colleagues and i was telling him, i phone with one of my colleagues and iwas telling him, i mean, i'm very close to my grandma and i was explaining, this old woman was stood there and i was, she was so proud, i could see it in herface. i wanted to say thank you. so obviously, using the power of social media. i kind of went on the local community post and said look, i'm not from the village, guys. but does anyone know
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this lady, i would like to thank her. she brought some motivation to me, what i'm doing. and i would just like to say thank you to her. and it kind of, itjust went viral from there. and you've been able, you sent her some flowers, i think, you we re sent her some flowers, i think, you were able to speak to her as well, what was that conversation —like, to be able to say thank you? it was good, even though she's doing it for me, she was so happy, she said some very nice things to me, she said thank you for everything doing, she appreciated it and i said to her, thank you, i've never met you but i was at a place, i've not been home for such a long time. i was at a place where i was so wanting to go home and i was tired and i didn't feel any reason why i was doing this and to see her up there, brought it all back, it made me realise why we are out here doing thejob, being
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away from our families, made are out here doing thejob, being away from ourfamilies, made me feel better. it was nice to say thank you to her. it's amazing, isn't it, how far appreciation goes. yes. we talk about clapping for carers on a thursday night, and you are doing a crucialjob, are you transporting food around europe, is that what you are doing? yes, just would we specialise in food but mainly because of the crisis at the moment, it's kind of getting a little bit of food and bringing a lot of food back to the supermarkets in the uk. crucialjob for millions of people right around the uk. you say you've not seen your family and how long? are you staying away from home because you don't want to cross contaminate, your self isolating? yes, i've not been home for seven weeks. that's not normally what happens, i normally go home every two weeks but because i'm travelling through europe, i'm going to countries like spain, italy, germany, austria. i do come into contact with people. i mean, we try
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our best to keep clean but ijust don't want to take that risk may be, maybe i am on the train and boat with a lot of people coming from different, foreign countries, i don't want to go home to my family and pass something on to my grandma or my mum or my dad. and to my children. i've not seen my children for seven weeks. it's hard. david, i can imagine. listen, i'm sure and i hope yourfamily can imagine. listen, i'm sure and i hope your family are watching this and seeing the amazing job you're doing, thank for taking a bit of time to find out who eva was and centre those gifts and it's great to talk to you today and thank you for thejob you're doing, talk to you today and thank you for the job you're doing, david. thank very much. david, wasn't that another lovely story? i saw somebody doing that the other day and i thought, what is that. might get a bunch of flowers at the end of it. you might think after raising more than £27 million for the nhs by walking 100 lengths of his garden, it would be
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time for captain tom to put his feet up and take a rest. no, not at all! instead he's continuing his efforts to support the fight against the pandemic by performing "a virtual opening" of harrogate's nightingale hospital. captain tom joins us now, alongside his daughter hannah from their home in reading. tom's other daughter lucy, and his grandson max are also with us. good morning to you! lucy and max, ifi good morning to you! lucy and max, if i could start with you, goodness me, quitea if i could start with you, goodness me, quite a journey, what's it been like watching this happening to your dad? i mean, i cannot believe what has happened, my heart is bursting, our hearts are bursting with pride. so, well done, daddy. you've been amazing! i'm having to get used to the thought of sharing it with millions and billions of people! it's incredible. max, do you want to
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pick up that thought as well? yes, i'm speechless. i'm here on behalf of my brother as well. we are just shocked and proud of him, beyond belief. the amount of money he's raised, because it is for, the nhs. it's sublime. yes, just it almost renders us, it's incredible, it's absolutely incredible, just less then two weeks ago my father and ourfamily less then two weeks ago my father and our family were just very happy, straightforward, this simple idea was created, basically, when you think, my father, his elevated age of 99, his 100th year, he bought a running machine, back in the winter. and he was determined and he has had
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that determination, all his life. best foot forward. because he had that running machine and he was walking through the winter, the sunshine came out and he was starting to walk up and down my sister ‘s drive, this created strength and fitness and his desire to keep moving at 99! it's lovely to hear, lucy and max from you. your dad and your grandfather, captain tom listening in, and captain tom, we can come to you and hannah now, you've heard a lot of love for all the celebrities and the people watching you on television, reading about your incredible exploits and yourfundraising. i about your incredible exploits and your fundraising. i suppose about your incredible exploits and yourfundraising. i suppose hearing from lucy and max that must mean so much to you to hear how proud your family are of you. lucy and max were saying how proud they are of you and isn't it so special to be able to hear from the family how proud they
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are we've heard from the rest of the world, which has been extraordinary. but also to say in this whirlwind last week, lucy and i had barely talked and we would normally talk every couple of days. it's been a crazy life and it's great for us to be connected on the television this morning. it certainly is. hello to both of you, lovely to speak to you again. my daughters, all the family together here, it's absolutely outstanding. i'm very pleased that this is happening. i'm absolutely overwhelmed. in fact, the amount of money that has been subscribed to. to the national health service. the doctors and the nurses are still soldiering on. under very,
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doctors and the nurses are still soldiering on. undervery, very difficult circumstances. i cannot say too much about the bravery, whatever they are doing, the work they are doing, cheerfully, even though they are in enormous danger, good luck to them. yes, i know today, you're doing something special, you are officially and virtually opening the new nhs nightingale hospital in harrogate, that will be quite a moment, isn't it, captain tom? today you are officially but virtually opening the nightingale hospital, but a moment for you. it's one of the things you'd never think would ever happen. for me to be opening a new hospital in harrogate. it's really, to me, it's outstanding. all the people in that area have done so well to
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produce a new hospital in such a short time. lots of space. i hope they don't have to fill it. listening to you this morning, i would love to get the family reaction. amongst this, you are heading to the top of the charts! with you'll never walk alone, we heard that for the first time on brea kfast last heard that for the first time on breakfast last week, with michael ball. i want to hear what lucy and max think about this. # walk on, through the wind. # walk on, through the rain. # though your dreams be tossed and blown. walk on. # walk on, with help in your heart. # and you'll never walk alone! i wish you could have seen that! hannah and
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captain tom singing along but max, your grandad might have a number one, what do you think about that? i'm speechless, never in a million years i would have thought he would have done something like that, he's got a better voice than me! i'm so proud he's done it. i really hope that keeps going to number one in all these different countries. lucy, it must be mind blowing, you've been saying about how crazy the last few weeks have been but if we come to you a fortnight ago and said we will speak to you on bbc breakfast, your dad would have raised over £26 million and potentially could beat number one, you would have gone, shut up, you are an idiot. absolutely, i really would, who could have ever imagined that this would have happened ? could have ever imagined that this would have happened? it's amazing. the only thing that makes me cry is that song. so i'm trying to keep strong because that song gets me to
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my heart and i know it does to lots of other people as well. i love the fa ct of other people as well. i love the fact that my father 's of other people as well. i love the fact that my father '5 voice is on that. and it's raising so much money. michael ball and my dad, that. and it's raising so much money. michael balland my dad, in that. and it's raising so much money. michael ball and my dad, in a numberone money. michael ball and my dad, in a number one single! it's amazing. hannah and captain tom, watching you listen to that, you were singing along, you cannot help singing to it, can you? it's impossible. when you think of what's happened to us in the last week. we have gone on the most incredible journey, trying to make sure that everything holds together. and to think, 24 hours, connecting with michael, him getting to the production company. filming tom, and the number one record, who could ever, ever have imagined it?
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if you had said it, we would have said, you are being ridiculous! to go back to captain tom, i wonder what your plans are when this is over. you are a global superstar but you must be looking forward to getting this wonderful family of yours together to celebrate what you have managed to achieve together as afamily have managed to achieve together as a family unit? what are you thinking of, when we are released from isolation. and social segregation. are you thinking when we can all get back together again and that big party we might have? yes, i am looking forward to our party. one day, houston, idon't looking forward to our party. one day, houston, i don't know when will happen. we will have another party, maybe, i don't know, it could be some time, but i'm looking forward to having a party again so many plans. we've got a lot more friends in the last few weeks than i had
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before! and that is absolutely marvellous. you are definitely going to have to expand the invitation list. thank you so much, so great to talk to all of you. what a brilliant story to come out of what has been a difficult time for all of us. that's it from us today. we will be back from 6am tomorrow. have a great day. stay safe.
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good morning. hello. i hope you're ok. i'm victoria derbyshire with you this tuesday morning. welcome to bbc news. here are the headlines. supplies of facemasks for frontline nhs workers will be put at risk, if the public is advised to wear them, warn hospital bosses. ministers consider the evidence. we do not have a clear scientific steer that it would be right to broaden this to the general population. we would obviously bear in mind the representations from nhs providers about the need to prioritise supply. a "well—loved" and "hugely respected" a&e consultant. tributes to dr manjeet singh riyat who has died
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