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the lockdown has led to the uk's biggest drop in retail sales on record — they fell more than 5% month. how a great british institution, the pub, is trying to reinvent itelf, amid fears that bars will be the last places to reopen when life returns to normal it's the hubble telescope‘s 30th birthday and to mark the occasion the observatory has produced a new and astonishing image of the cosmos. hello and welcome to audiences in the uk and around the world. we're covering all the latest coronavirus developments here in britain and globally. the new uk government website which launched today for up to ten million key workers and their families to book coronavirus tests online had to close after it was inundated with requests. almost 50 thousand people in england
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tried to book a testjust hours after the website launched. 16,000 did manage to book a drive through appointment or get home testing kits. the government says the site — for key workers with symptoms — is going back online this evening and will be taking more bookings. our health editor hugh pym has the latest.. pop—up units run by the army. part of the new push in england to boost virus testing. the number of drive—through centres is being expanded and more home test kits will be sent out. all to handle possible demand from up to 10 million key workers and their families. but by mid—morning all slots bookable online for today have been taken by 11,000 people and 5000 home test kits went within minutes. the department of health apologise for any inconvenience and said booking for the weekend had started up again. as capacity expanded. mike who is a teacher had symptoms and wants to know if it's safe to go into work. he managed to get a test slot.
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the whole process was very seamless. i was able to register and then i just have to wait for the e—mail to come through. 0nce just have to wait for the e—mail to come through. once i got that i quickly livened on and it's been really easy —— logon. at one drive—thru centre, essential workers who had had their nasal and throat swabs taken told us about the process. i actually registered last night for today, so i was quite surprised how quick it was. i feel good that i've been tested, see what happens, see what comes through, hopefully it is nothing. but the fire brigades union argued there had to be more easily accessible testing to allow emergency services staff to get back to work if possible from self isolation. the scottish government said it was ready to go live with a similar system to england's with laboratories like this one in glasgow analysing the tests. at the downing street media briefing, i asked how much more testing capacity would be provided.
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obviously, you don't want people's expectations to be disappointed, are you pretty confident that you can meet the demand we will see how it settles down but we are encouraged by the 16,000 bookings online, indeed, 46,000 people went to the portal first thing today. there are some more slots opening up right now as i'm speaking and there will be more slots tomorrow and in the days after. the nhs has spare critical power beds, even with the covid—19 patient numbers. —— care beds. nhs england said there might now be scope to restart some more routine work which had been cancelled. it looks as if we are now coming through the peak of the coronavirus inpatients, and so, we've got spare capacity in hospitals across the country, and that means that as well as other critical and urgent services, we will be able to restart some of those more routine services that the nhs is also here to provide.
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as for mike, he got to the testing centre in peterborough and showed the e—mail he'd received. it wasn scanned by a member of staff and the test went ahead. he is hoping for the result by monday, which will determine whether he can get back to work. joining us now is professor azeem majeed, who's head of the department whether he can get back to work. of primary care & public health at imperial college london. thank you very much for being with us. thank you very much for being with us. i suspect giving they open these today, people log on thinking they can find out whether they had coronavirus in the past rather than people who actually had symptoms today. do you think that's what's going on? i think what's happened is people probably want to test, people with symptoms are concerned. you think all those people that logon
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today have symptoms of coronavirus? 0ra member of today have symptoms of coronavirus? or a member of their household who potentially ill. either they are sick have symptoms or they know a colleague who is ill. that's a good point. i think for countries like south korea where they've done very well dealing with covid—19 is that well dealing with covid—19 is that we need massive capacity for testing. that means hundreds of thousands of tests available per day. will need lots of testing sites, testing to be very accessible so no sites, testing to be very accessible so no long drives to testing centers. people need to get tests either with a work or in surveys or
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other community health clinic. so we've got to make these tests accessible and on a massive scale if we re accessible and on a massive scale if were going to defeat covid—19. accessible and on a massive scale if were going to defeat covid-19. we've had some evidence today from chris whitty as we were speaking to the science committee. he says that he doesn't think the raised of covid—19 infections outside of london is above 10%. what do you think that means for the way that the government unlocks?” means for the way that the government unlocks? i think what it means is we need to think about region by region. can have one for the entire country. i think we need to think about is this a lab where the infection rate varies, in which case we could unlock some areas as we got very good testing in these areas before other areas like london areas before other areas like london are unlock. so i think it really drives the need for more regional approach to the current policy. and also whether rates are quite low
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where they could unlock those areas more quickly. we should make reference to what the secretary state of transport said that they are tentative signs that we are making progress. you look at the hospitalizations at the moment. they are down 10% on the same day last week. does that suggest to you that week. does that suggest to you that we are past the peak? were sort of tentatively getting to the downward bit of the curve? yes, i'll agree with the secretary of state. we are ona with the secretary of state. we are on a downward curve. that's because we lock peoples mobility. 0nce on a downward curve. that's because we lock peoples mobility. once that is open again we don't have another surgeon cases, we need to make sure. that's when we need to have this massive testing capacity as long with contact tracing as well. so any outbreak that occurs locally somewhere and could be picked up, isolated the contact traced and tested. any big upsurge in cases once we unlock the current lockdown with got on the uk. 0k doctor, really grateful for your thoughts this
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evening. thank you more than 50 thousand people have now died in america with coronavius. it comes as one of the world's biggest manufacturers of disinfectants warned people not to follow president trump's suggestion that injecting themselves with it could treat coronavirus. 0ne leading company said "under no circumstance" should its products be put into human bodies. a short time ago the president said his remarks were sarcastic. 0ur north american editor, john sopel has more. controversially, some beaches in florida reopened last week, but maybe it was a smart thing to do. according to new research conducted by us government scientists, sunlight, heat and humidity dramatically reduce the life of coronavirus in the air and on hard surfaces. the scientists said it acted as a powerful disinfectant, and that led the president to muse on whether disinfectant could be used inside the human body to kill the virus. and then i see the disinfectant, where it knocks it out in a minute,
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one minute, and is there a way we can do something like that, by injection inside or almost a cleaning? because, you see, it gets in the lungs and it does a tremendousjob, so it would be interesting to check that. look at the face of the president's chief medical adviser, as he thinks out loud. and the manufacturers of bleach are aghast. the company behind one of the biggest selling brands in the us issued a statement saying, under no circumstances should people ingest disinfectant. doctors and health professionals are similarly disbelieving. very clearly, disinfectants are not intended for ingestion, either by mouth, by ears, by breathing them in in any way, shape or form. the president has used the briefing room to repeatedly pontificate on remedies that might help treat coronavirus, but there's been nothing quite like this.
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his press secretary though says he always advocates that you should see a doctor and that the media have twisted his words. jon sopel, bbc news, washington. coronavirus has spread to all 50 states in america and today the country passed the grim milestone of 50,000 deaths the highest in the world. and yet there are states where there are a limited number of infections that are easing the lockdown. georgia today was reopening hair salons, gyms, bowling alleyes. in new york, no doubt they are over the worst of it, but the governor andrew cuomo had a word of warning for those who are pushing to ease the restrictions. if you say well, we are done can't stay in the house any more let's just reopen. just start business tomorrow. let's go. what happens? that's what happens. all the progress we've
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made is gone and all experts, well virtually all experts will say not only does the virus spread increase but it increases to a higher point than we had increased the first time. andrew cuomo warning people there they need to be careful if they ease up they need to be careful if they ease up too quickly. let's pick some up this a part in the company of callie k. also tonight pleased to say that we re k. also tonight pleased to say that werejoined by the k. also tonight pleased to say that were joined by the former director of communications at the white house anthony scare muji. good to have you with us. let me start with you because we just had this little bit of sort of insight into what he was talking about last night. maybe we could just play that before we start. this is his explanation of what he did about the disinfectant. i was asked a question and a very
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sarcastic question to the reporters in the room about disinfectant on the inside. but it does kill it and it would kill it on their hands and that would make things much better. that was done in a form of a sarcastic question to the reporters. anthony, what strikes me about that is you look at the people standing behind him the treasury secretary, the vice president, and they are sort of acting as a note this is normal. and it's anything but normal. and it's anything but normal. look i mean, it's normal. and it's anything but normal. looki mean, it's not explainable. but i know his personality very well and so he likes doing and saying things like that because he knows it's going to cause in opera. and whether people like it or not he wants to be the centre of attention at all times. and he wants some level of outrage related to his personality being spread across the world. of course what he does is after he does something like this he tries to walk
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it back. but i think what's happening now is planet earth is still sort of exhausted of him. 60% of the americans are exhausted of him. he still has what it shocks me a group of people and you're managing some of them, they are standing behind him. at some point you do have personal integrity. you do have your life story to tell to yourfamily do have your life story to tell to your family members and your own personal legacy. at some point you've got to look up and honestly look around and say hey, the guys crazy. if they are not willing to do that that tells you how corruptive and how corrosive power actually is ina and how corrosive power actually is in a system of politics. yeah, i don't think anybody's going to really buy the sarcasm argument. if i say to you your ponds are funny christian, that sarcastic right? but there was nothing about the way he was standing there in the briefing room that suggested sarcasm. i guess the question is, if he explained to his base entity, is it working?
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because there's a new poll out from the associated press yesterday that only 22% of republicans give much credence or any credence at all to what the president says about the coronavirus. all of this mixed messaging that is coming out of the white house briefing room, it doesn't seem to be doing him much good even politically. and i saw you on morning joe making those statements. and i agree with that for this and the science around the coronavirus. but trust me, i've been to those rallies, i've been on the campaign trail with president trump. there is a very hard—core group of people that when this is over, and i'm praying that a land and hopefully before the fall election. they'll be clinging to him. because they see him as a presenter of a culture war or a cultural change that they don't want. and ultimately, you have to see
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president trump as their tribal leader. this is sort of a red tribe versus a blue tribe. and there willing to shape shift themselves in order to stay with them.|j willing to shape shift themselves in order to stay with them. i got that but there is there also a risk that that tribe is shrinking a little bit? there is also an indication that he's losing support amongst older voters. and in a place like florida, which he has to win really to be reelected, you can't afford to lose voters over the age of 60. so listen, you and i are in total agreement. i'm certainly going to be working against him. but you've got vice president biden then in my opinion, he has to sort of stepped up opinion, he has to sort of stepped up and start defining himself a little bit better. and start explaining what he's going to do with the economy post covid—19. and how he's going to guide the country with our alliances and so forth. so for right now, i know this sounds
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crazy but i'm just telling you what i really think, the economic activity prior to covid—19 favoured president trump. and we both know that a presidential campaign is a marketing competition and he's a pretty ca pa ble marketing competition and he's a pretty capable marketer. he'll get out there and say well we were doing great but for covid—19, i'm the safer pair of hands for the economy. i don't agree with that but i'm just trying to explain to you yes, for right now he is living in the polls. and i believe that data but i've watched him climb out of situations that nobody could climb out of. i'll ta ke that nobody could climb out of. i'll take you back to october seven, 2016 with the access hollywood tape. we looked around inside the campaign and said ok were going to lose by ten or 15 points. they won the election one month later. you can never count him out. and you live here in the united states i will tell you this, 180 days in trump world that's like 500 years. that's like going back to christopher columbus. we've got a lot of time
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between now and the election. that is true. 180 trump news days. what about the comments that we had from joe biden in last 25 hours, that he suspects that somehow donald trump will try and postpone the election date in november. we should stress that obviously, that is a power that congress has for some they will decide whether he gets postpone or not. it is there a they are in democratic circles that he might try and to? how would you hold an election in the current climate anyway? is after me? yeah, i think, you have to put everything on the table with president trump. anything that you think he's not willing to do you have to assume that he's willing to do. and we wake every morning in america we say ok so what happened last night that we need to be aghast of. and there were conditions we say it will never be aghast again but now we've got
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chewable clorox meme tablets going around on the internet. so anything that you think that he's not capable of doing, get that off the table. so if you think that that would help them, just remember mayor giuliani after 9/11 tried to do that in new york. so there is evidence that that sort of pattern behaviour happens in situations like this. talking about georgia today, we mentioned in the queue there that brian kemp the governor there is starting to relax measures, they are reopening bowling alleys, gyms, hairdressing salons. it must be very difficult for even republican governors to double guess what the president wants. because he was encouraging that the other day and then he jumped was encouraging that the other day and then hejumped on brian kemp. well that's another axiom in trump world. and that's why he's got such dysfunctionality in the executive branch. everybody is frozen. they don't even like working with each other interdepartmental he any more because they're afraid they're going to upset him some way. and you've
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got a 2—sided coin, every time he wa kes got a 2—sided coin, every time he wakes up you don't know which side is going to land on heads or tails. it was heads he wanted that governor to open the economy, he's looking at the poll numbers that he is looking at, and saying oh my god i've got to reverse course right away. one of the axioms in trump world is, and i got it from one of the members right after i got fired is your mistake ansley because you are trying to do what he told you to do. you can only do 10% of what he saying. because he's going to change his mind a lot and then you're going to get caught in his crosshairs. that governor experience that this week. antony, i know you're not involved in this campaign but if you were, what would you be nervous aboutjoe biting doing? the president made comments in the last couple of press conferences about how joe in the last couple of press conferences about howjoe biden is stuck in a basement feeling sleepy. is there something joe biden could
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be doing over the next few months that would make the president nervous? well, there's a couple of things that are making him nervous right now. if you go back to super tuesday three, there were 500,000 additional democratic voters that voted versus 2016. so i know that campaign. they are very data—driven. that makes them nervous. but i think joe biden has actually got a get out a little bit. even if he's on a ready cam outside his house, even if he's doing more interviews. i know he's doing more interviews. i know he's doing more interviews. i know he's doing local news interviews for the top but he's got to start earlier in the day. we know that the american news cycle. start making news nine, ten o'clock in the morning. it will show up on local news at 6pm and then you'll pick up some of it in the cable cycle. he is not really existent right now. i think president trump is sort of right that he's sought i gotta get out of basement. what i'm worried about for vice president biden is
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this would be a time where he would be consolidating power in the democratic party, setting himself up for a coronation in july. democratic party, setting himself up for a coronation injuly. and he's got none of that going on. none of those touch points. it is very hard to do over a zoom those touch points. it is very hard to do over a zoom or a videoconference. so get out, trying to come up with some creative ideas to come up with some creative ideas to break some news in the morning so that you can stay present and releva nt that you can stay present and relevant throughout the day during the new cycle. anthony, i know you've got yourfinger on the new cycle. anthony, i know you've got your finger on the pulse of the economy in new york. we had another belief bill today from congress. another 480 billion. there is some fairly prominent republicans who are getting uncomfortable about the ballooning deficit and the united states was up do you think there's a risk, certainly a risk they won't fund the states, but is there a risk that congress is patient runs out before we get to the end of the pandemic? there is certainly a risk. i predict that that will not happen. i'll take you
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back to 2008, the first legislation failed, the economy really keels over after that. and of course congress got back to work and passed the 2nd. second round of that legislation. i do not think that. if you look at the cbo they are usually accurate, they are calling for a $3.7 trillion deficit. if you actually did the numbers in the us economy, we print about $22 trillion a year orfive economy, we print about $22 trillion a year or five and economy, we print about $22 trillion a year orfive and a half economy, we print about $22 trillion a year or five and a half trillion per quarter. you have lost economic output by shutting down 65% of the economy. that works out to about $3.7 trillion. if your eight macroeconomists looking at their situation and seeing it as a war the us having a deficit expenditure somewhere in the 20% zone, of its gdp is totally acceptable. i think we have to think about what we're going to do when this is over and how we start to tame some of the
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spending and some of the forward cost. but i think it's absolutely necessary to inject that level of stimulus right now. because we've got to tide people over to the end of this. one tragedy of the united states that we all are learning, most people are learning paycheque to paycheck. 0r small businesses are month—to—month. and were also under bendedin month—to—month. and were also under bended in our hospitals. so a lot of the stuff is got to get cleared up. but we can't do it right now. and i predict that they will continue to fund this thing until we get to the other side of it. anthony scare mucci, always great to get your thoughts. thank you very much indeed. idid thoughts. thank you very much indeed. i did notice catty that you we re indeed. i did notice catty that you were talking about joe indeed. i did notice catty that you were talking aboutjoe biting his basement. there you are and your basements. which actually lives better than his basement. yeah, you know nothing about sarcasm sorry i'm not with you but another thing is if i say to you christian, it's a good, your tie is really straight today. this is what i miss you see normally
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have a programme together and would be locked in basements, were being kept apart. i'm checking my time. i would affix his tie. that's what happens when he turns up in the studio ten seconds before airtime as well. well listen, it's really good to see you thank you very much indeed. i look forward to re—convenient with you shortly, catty. so just to reiterate we had a big spending bill in the white house. bill in the white house. today the president signed a massive relief bill into law, worth $484 billion, that brings the total amount approved to congress to three trillion dollars, the public deficit is ballooning, and already some are saying it is nowhere enough. 26 million who have lost theirjob this week they'll need every bit of that. part of the problem we've talked about in the last week or so is getting that money through tubes to those who need it the most. will talk a lot more about
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coronavirus around the world and also what's happening around here as well. do state with us here on the bbc news. hello, it was another beautiful sunny day across the uk. temperatures in the high teen, low teens in a few spots. as far as this weekend is concerned, more fine weather. very tempting weather. but mind please observe the current rules. anyway, this is the satellite picture, you can see how the skies cleared across the uk today. a little bit more hazy out towards the west but on the whole a fine cycle of leather and the same will continue through the rest of the evening and overnight. clear skies for many of us. however, since the early hours of study i suspect the skies will turn on the eastern counties and certainly by warning that cloud will spread into york
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shire or even part of the midlands. but out to the west i think will have those clear skies all the way through the night until dawn. temperatures around three degrees in some spots. quite a chilly morning especially in the north. you can see that cloud again around the north sea. it should eventually clear certainly by the time we get to around the early afternoon. nippy on the north sea coast around 12, 15, further towards the west, liverpool, birmingham their 20dc. that was saturday for some this is sundays weather forecast now. this week low pressure will drift in from the norwegian sea. also this means a shift in the wind direction. they will be coming in from the north. cooler much of scotland and northern ireland. also increasing clouds and fate will bring a few showers. not just to scotland but further south into york shire. they temperatures, we're talking 13 in glasgow. trite fleet not quite a drop come sunday. 22 in london. monday this trend
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continues, that is the cooler air keeps arriving from the north. you can see that wind blowing out to the norwegian sea and tucking into scotla nd norwegian sea and tucking into scotland and also northern ireland, through the lakes. to the south we just have a suggestion of a cool front here. that means to the south of that here, and the southeast and angling is relatively warm temperatures. temperatures to get up to around 21 degrees. you can see some showers looming and southwestern parts of england. 0n monday. tuesday and wednesday it looks as though it's going to cool down across the south as well. and many of us will catch a few showers. bye— bye.
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this is bbc news with the latest headlines for viewers in the uk and around the world. the uk government's new website for coronavirus tests is inundated by key worker requests. sixteen thousand people in england booked tests before the site had to close temporarily. the death toll in the us has passed 50 thousand, as president trump backtracks on a suggestion yesterday that disinfectant, could be used to tackle the virus. the lockdown has led to the uk's biggest drop in retail sales on record. they fell more than 5% last month. how a great british institution, the pub, is trying to reinvent itelf, amid fears that bars will be the last places to reopen when life returns to normal. and it's the hubble telescope's 30th birthday, and to mark the occasion, the observatory has produced a new and astonishing image of the cosmos.
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hello and welcome to audiences in the uk and around the world. we're covering all the latest coronavirus developments here in britain and globally. let's get more now on the government website that launched today for key workers to book coronavirus tests. it had to close afterjust a few hours as all the slots were taken. the government says the site for key workers with symptoms is going back online this evening and will be taking more bookings. it comes as the coronavirus death toll climbed again. in the past 24 hours, 768 more people are reported to have died with coronavirus, mostly in hospitals across the uk. the total death toll has risen to 19,506. it doesn't include deaths in the community in england and north ireland. 0ur political correspondent, jonathan blake is at westminster.
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i know you're watching everything a little earlier, jonathan. to be getting exclamation on what went on with the system today? simply put, it reached capacity very quickly. there were a limited numbers of tests available to be allocated today. the government has subsequently said, although that wasn't necessarily made clear yesterday when the announcement was made that many marquis workers, all the workers in fact will be eligible if they have symptoms. within hours this morning, that capacity was reached. 16,000 in total. the —— 5000 of those were home testing kits and it seems the remainder allocated slots at some of the drive through testing centres which have been set up testing centres which have been set up in various parts of the uk for people to go and get tested there.
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so what was interesting was to hear from the transport secretary at the news co nfe re nce from the transport secretary at the news conference earlier, the total number of people who access the website which he said was 46,000. that gives you an idea of the demand that there is a monkey workers and members of their households who are also eligible for the test —— there is among key workers. uk wide who could be eligible for the test but it's worth reminding people as it wasn't necessarily clear from the beginning that these are tests for people with coronavirus symptoms or those within their household. they are not antibody tests which will tell you if you have the virus previously. shall he talk about brexit? me tell barney a has said not enough projects has been made ——
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barnier. they are talking at all is here. one thing they've done reasonably well. barnier thinks not. this has tried to put forward some sort of future relationship between the uk and the eu, which both sides can agree on. which is happening within the timeframe of this year, december the 31st being the deadline foran december the 31st being the deadline for an agreement to be reached or for an agreement to be reached or for britain to have continued on the terms of the withdrawal agreement, which has already been signed. we had an update on those talks today from both sides as you illustrated there and it seems to paint a pretty bleak picture in terms of actual material progress which has been made. still significant areas of disagreement and michelle barnier even dragging up his favourite phrase that the clock attempting. it seems there is a long way to go for
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an agreement to be reached. the government here in westminster have ruled out any kind of extension to this process as a result of the coronavirus outbreak or any other reason. so the negotiations will go on remotely because of the coronavirus of course, but it's all starting to sound very familiar, isn't it? i remember the days when we used to talk about it. it seems so long ago. thank you very much. around a million people work in the uk's pub and breweries sector, which has been hard hit by the lockdown, with pubs told they'll be among the last places to re—open when restrictions lift some have adapted to provide takeaways and home deliveries. but others are having to pour their stocks of lager and ale away, as our ireland correspondent emma vardy reports. there are thousands of gallons of lovingly brewed beer right now going to waste. the landlord of the gardener's arms in norwich disposed of his ten real ales to the hymn played
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as the titanic sank. we have a cellar full of beer, which is probably all going to be out of date within the next two or three weeks. a lot of the brewers who brew with the products, they love what they do, and it's really sad to think that all that beer and all that hard work is being wasted and thrown away. i drank a little bit, but i can't drink loads of it, so i think, all in all, we're up to nearly 6,000 gallons of beer that we're due to throw away. in cool rooms and cellars across the uk, its estimated there are some 50 million pints that will suffer the same fate, while off—licence sales of alcohol have jumped by nearly a third. so this bar in belfast came up with an idea. while the rules have been relaxed to allow pubs to operate as takeaways, the hatfield now looks more like a call centre, taking orders forfood and drinks, and they added an extra service,
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delivering fresh pints of guinness. we decided to kit out a wee van, put a keg in the back of it, pull up at your house and pour you an absolutely perfect, fresh pint of stout. it sparked a big demand... you've got the nice perfect head on it... ..and worldwide attention but, after drivers were stopped by police, they were forced to put the deliveries on hold. stopped me and told me it was illegal, but couldn't tell me under what section of the liquor licensing act it was illegal. so where will you go with this? we believe we were operating within the law. this is about keeping people in employment. police say prosecutors are now considering whether any action should be taken for a breach of licensing laws. but the pub's mounting its own legal challenge, saying they were within the rules and that they need to adapt to survive. a typical friday in belfast‘s cathedral quarter, pre—pandemic. it's a ghost town here now, and the government says that pubs and bars will be some of the last places that can reopen. we have nearly 80% of our staff
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on furlough at the moment, so we are being very clear and direct with the government and saying, if you want our pubs to survive this, you must support us throughout the period of closure and also throughout the period of reopening. but, with some forms of social distancing possibly lasting up to the end of the year, that won't happen quickly. emma vardy, bbc news. there's questions over the extent to which the pub can bring the bar to you. today the president signed a massive relief bill into law, worth $484 billion — that brings the total amount approved to congress to 3 trillion dollars, the public deficit is ballooning, and already some are saying it is nowhere enough. you can understand why some governors, some states are itching to get back to business. there have been plenty of protests in over a dozen states where the infection rates are small to moderate. ronda vuillemont—smith, a business ownerfrom 0klahoma
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who has protested against the us wide lockdown. she believes the measures are draconian and heavy handed. it's good to have you on the programme. i'm sure there's a lot of people here in the uk who share your frustration at what is going on, but at the same time, i'll only get one of these clusters, it explodes with such alarming speed.|j of these clusters, it explodes with such alarming speed. i agree. is that justified in the such alarming speed. i agree. is thatjustified in the lives that are being ruined and the families that are being destroyed ? being ruined and the families that are being destroyed? you think there isa are being destroyed? you think there is a trade—off in here and that yes, it's sad that people will die from it, but you think the bigger damage that's being done to the economy we should be giving more thought to that? i think that, yes. i think the secondary effects going on are being caused because the shutdowns are
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going to far exceed what will occur because of the deaths. i think that we can be smart in the way that we do business, but i think it's time that we get business is back up and running ina that we get business is back up and running in a safe and responsible way that allows families to continue to earn a living and providing food from the dash for their family while protecting the most vulnerable. looking at the oklahoma figures, there were 3100 people who have recovered. hundred and 88 deaths. you don't think it would be far worse if the government locked down the state? i'll go back to the secondary effects. 0ur suicide rates have gone up, our domestic abuse has gone up, child abuse has gone up, people are relapsing back on drugs and alcohol. so that's less than 200 lives that have been lost to the
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covid so we believe it's time to open up our government and let our families once again be able to earn a living for their families while maintaining a safe and responsible way. maintaining, by being able to protect her most vulnerable. we have to limit there. good to speak to you from oklahoma. the metropolitan police force, the country's largest, says it has made more than 4,000 arrests for domestic abuse offences during the lockdown. that amounts to nearly a hundred a day. it says domestic abuse calls have risen by around a third. with me now is hera hussain, the founder of chayn, a volunteer—led organisation that addresses gender—based violence. thank you for being with us. looking at these figures, do you think it tells the true picture? thank for having me and talking about what is a very important topic. you asked if this is the true picture. if these
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numbers show us that there are a lot of reports but anyone working in domestic abuse can tell you that amount of reports is not the full picture at all. most people will remain in those abusive relationships and will not call the police. up to 50 incidents of violence might occur before someone calls the police. if you use that research, it already tells us there are probably hundreds and thousands of cases that are not coming forward , of cases that are not coming forward, but what is good is that we can see that both the police is reacting and they are catching people and we see that increase in the amount of people and questions that are given. if you go back to la st that are given. if you go back to last year. but the problem is the calls have increased. a lot of our survivors our worried about other concerns. there are so many other things that need to go in there who
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wa nt things that need to go in there who want to truly support survivors. of course i guess police forces are stretched at the moment and the various charities that would support them are stretch as well. i can imagine what it must be like to be locked in a home with someone who's violent and abusive and one imagines that the abuser, and i'm not making excuses for it, but the abuser might be out of work, there may be more pressure and that person becomes more abusive. exactly. it's something that is being triggered by even worse than it usually is. we always said that any form of use is always said that any form of use is a form of control and when things are outside your control, you insert control on things that you can control. it is those women and children who are trapped in these houses and it is as you said, i imagine living in a house where you have to walk on eggshells. the fact
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that refuges are working under intense pressure, one of the things that we heard recently is that many refuges are not able to support people coming to them as well so that's even worse. if you have the courage to call a refuge and say "i wa nt courage to call a refuge and say "i want to get out" "—— and they say they have. i think that the fact that the government has not done what they said they would do, which is distribute more money. they haven't followed the example. hotel owners have said they want this to happen but they just owners have said they want this to happen but theyjust wonder why haven't government on that. we can certainly do it. why is this problem worse for migrant women? it is a lot worse for migrant women? it is a lot worse for migrant women? it is a lot worse for migrant women because if you are in a country where you don't have your usual forms of support or the people you do know are the ones who are perpetrating the abuse, you
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are left with no choice and we live ina are left with no choice and we live in a society where your race, gender and sexuality affects how people treat you. notjust people, but how the symptoms. so if you are a migrant, there could be language barriers, you may be scared of how you may be seen by the police. i was helping my good friends of mine and their problems were just not being met and they didn't feel comfortable with the way things were set out. that was the motivation and in the la st that was the motivation and in the last week, someone got in touch with me and said they have been trying to get out and have been contacting lots of organisations but confine help and they were a migrant from india —— couldn't find help. they we re india —— couldn't find help. they were trying to get a hold of lawyers. another survivor told us they were looking for help that was
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in —— that was rejected. there are lots of complex issues when it comes to migration. there are additional needs that need to be met. just before i let you go, if people are in an abusive relationship, what should they do? know that you're not alone. shelters are still running and there are lots of support services that are here for you, including mental health support, financial support, to reach out and see what the support is rampant. if you know someone who is going to her abuse, it is our responsibility to help that person so let's all play our part and let them know they are not alone in this and we are there to support them. good advice. good to support them. good advice. good to have you on the programme. well, we've been in lockdown now for almost 5 weeks, allowed out to exercise once a day. the government advice is that people should stay local and use open spaces near to home. but recent guidance for police forces says it is lawful to drive somewhere to exercise, as long as you exercise for longer than you travel. but the national rural crime network
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says more and more people are heading to beauty spots and it's causing tension in rural areas as our environment and rural affairs correspondent claire marshall reports. near perfect conditions in cornwall, but none of the people should be here. it seems more and more people are defying the advice like these kayakers. we don't want our cruise —— once they respond they have no choice of social distancing. they have to come together. they have to sit together in a combined space to rescue anybody whoever that might be. these days, exercises vital for mental health. the guidance has been relaxed, it's confusing. mental health. the guidance has been relaxed, it's confusinglj mental health. the guidance has been relaxed, it's confusing. ithink it's pretty vague. government said you should not be allowed ——
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everyone else knows this is a community. most people do seem to be respecting the key message to stay at home. the tourist hope —— spot at scarborough is still quiet. we are definitely seeing more people out and about in communities. in communities where communities are shown, we thought this had been resolved. residents of a little parish deftly feel it's not being resolved. we normally see 50 or 60 people. since the lockdown, we see two, 300 people a day. like valerie who lived here for 40 years. we don't know how it's being spread. we don't know how it's being spread. we don't know how it's being spread. we don't know who got it and who has it and although these people, we are an
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older generation and we do feel very strongly that we're isolating ourselves and we feel they are not. we have different needs and priorities and our view of what's reasonable is different. try to write rules that are seen as fair to eve ryo ne write rules that are seen as fair to everyone in such a short state of time is almost impossible. it seems the clarity of the stay—at—home m essa g es the clarity of the stay—at—home messages being blurred just as eve ryo ne messages being blurred just as everyone get sick of the lockdown. it looks like it will be another lovely weekend. the question is will the lure of freedom and fresh air be too much to resist? claire marshall, bbc news. the hubble space telescope celebrates its 30th anniversary in orbit today. from its position in space above the distortion of the atmosphere, rain, clouds and light pollution hubble has an unobstructed view of the universe. scientists have used hubble observe the most distant stars and galaxies as well as planets in our solar system. dr paul hertz is director of nasa's astrophysics division
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and works with the hubble team. welcome to the programme. did they expect it would last so long when it was launched ? expect it would last so long when it was launched? the hubble space telescope was designed to be serviced. it was serviced by astronauts five times over its lifetime and every time the astronauts went up, they would repairany astronauts went up, they would repair any aged or failing astronauts went up, they would repair any aged orfailing equipment and they would upgrade the instruments. yes, it was built to last a long time. don't let the viewers were watching know this, but i don't know much about it. what is it? what does it look like and how does it work? the hubble space telescope is about the size of a bus. inside is a 4—.2 metre diameter mirror which is perfectly smooth, as perfect as need to be so they can make the most accurate images. it
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looks like a backyard reflecting telescope, only much larger and it's got a spacecraft around it which has radios in it to send the digital images down and also has gyros on it. gyroscopes that will help it point exactly and solar panels. it. gyroscopes that will help it point exactly and solar panelslj imagine if you would blodgett today there would be a more sophisticated ‘s kit on board. how difficult is it to manoeuvre it and get it to do what you wanted to do? the telescope is performing excellently today. it has, since we... it has new gyros and new batteries. we put on new thermal blankets and we upgraded all thermal blankets and we upgraded all the science instruments. today it is performing at the peak of its performance. everything remains redundant, so if something fails we
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swa p over redundant, so if something fails we swap over to the spare and continue. we fully expected to last at least through the next ten years. they released a host of new pictures today. perhaps we can put those on screen. i don't know if we have them. but tell us what we're looking at. i can't see the picture. today -- if it's at. i can't see the picture. today —— if it's todays 30th anniversary picture you are looking at some blue and red blows. in the centre is a group of stars that are 20 times massive than her own son —— glows. there omission is so powerful. the red glow is coming from hydrogen and nitrogen. the blue is coming from oxygen. it gives an appearance of a coral reef, but this is really a glowing nebula and space. you describe those pictures really well. 0ur director was struggling through that picture and he found that through your description. well done! how much longer do you think it will
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continue? like i said, we and updated it in 2009. right now, everything is working and we expected to last at least another ten years. the orbit is stable for at least another 20 years, so we are looking forward to using it and next year, nasa will be launching its next telescope. it has a mirror that collects ten times as much light as hubble, but it upgrades the infrared so it will be able to see the first star galaxy after the big bang and together hubble and webb will be a powerful to punch for economist. i've learned a lot in the last five minutes. thank you very much indeed. it's a fascinating subject. thank you and your viewers can go to nasa .com and find all those beautiful pictures. we've got a whole weekend to do that, so we mayjust do that. thank you very much. 99—year—old captain tom moore has
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raised almost 30 million pounds walking 100 laps of his garden. now he has gone one step further by becoming the oldest ever chart topper with his version of you'll never walk alone, as our arts correspondent colin patterson reports. when you walk through a storm hold your head up high. the who, bruce springsteen, janet jackson, they've never had a number one single. but captain tom moore has. it was two weeks ago that captain tom moore first appeared on bbc breakfast aiming to walk 100 laps before his 100th birthday to raise £1,000 for the nhs. i think i might say well done nhs. that total is now approaching the £30 million mark.
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the distance was completed last thursday and helped captain tom celebrate, michael ball sang. the next day, it was released as a single. today it went straight to number one. you are the uk's official number one. that really is truly amazing, isn't it? at the age of 99, captain tom has become the oldest person to ever have a number one single. amazing. that this should happen to me. louis armstrong was 66 when he topped the charts in 1968. a record which would stand for more than 40 years. until beaten by a 68—year—old tom jones with a comic relief single. and sir tom was quick to pay tribute. from one tom to another, congratulations on beating my chart record. if i was gonna lose to anybody it's
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an honour to have lost to you. next thursday is captain tom's birthday, meaning that he will still be number one when he turns 100. colin paterson, bbc news. we will all celebrate with him when he turns 100. what a marble. all celebrate with him when he turns 100. whata marble. —— all celebrate with him when he turns 100. what a marble. —— marvel. from me, goodbye. have a good weekend. stay safe and look after your family. hello, it was another beautiful sunny day across the uk. temperatures in the high teens, low teens in a few spots. as far as this weekend is concerned, more fineweather. very tempting weather. but mind please observe the current rules. anyway, this is the satellite picture, you can see how the skies cleared across the uk today. a little bit more
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hazy out towards the west but on the whole a fine cycle of weather and the same will continue through the rest of the evening and overnight. clear skies for many of us. however, since the early hours of study i suspect the skies will turn on the eastern counties and certainly by warning that cloud will spread into yorkshire or even part of the midlands. but out to the west i think will have those clear skies all the way through the night until dawn. temperatures around three degrees in some spots. quite a chilly morning especially in the north. you can see that cloud again around the north sea. it should eventually clear certainly by the time we get to around the early afternoon. nippy on the north sea coast around 12, 15, further towards the west, liverpool, birmingham there 20 celsius. that was saturday for some this is sundays weather forecast now. this weak low pressure will drift in from the norwegian sea. also this means a shift in the wind direction. they will be coming
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in from the north. cooler much of scotland and northern ireland. also increasing clouds and theywill bring a few showers. not just to scotland but further south into yorkshire. still around 19 in the midlands and 22 in london. monday, this trend continues. that is the cooler air keeping arising. tucking into scotla nd keeping arising. tucking into scotland and also northern ireland through the lakes. to the south, we just have a suggestion of a cool front here so that means to the south of that, it's still going to be relatively warm. temperatures could get up to around 21 degrees, but you can see some showers there looming and southwestern parts of england. in tuesday, and wednesday it looks like it will cool down across the south as well and many of us across the south as well and many of us will catch a few showers. bye— bye.
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this is bbc news with the latest headlines for viewers in the uk and around the world. the death toll in the us has passed 50,000, as president trump backtracks on a suggestion yesterday that disinfectant could be used to tackle the virus. i was asking a sarcastic — and a very sarcastic question — to the reporters in the room about disinfectant on the inside. but it does kill it and it would kill it on the hands. the uk government's new website for coronavirus tests is swamped as it's inundated by key workers. 16,000 people in england booked tests before the site had to close temporarily.
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