hello, and welcome to our look ahead to what the the papers will be bringing us tomorrow. with me are the political commentatorjo phillips and the political editor of the sunday mirror and people, nigel nelson. tomorrow's front pages, starting with. .. let's begin with the sunday telegraph, which reports on the government's aim to reopen primary schools at the start ofjune. that story shares the front page with a picture of borisjohnson‘s newborn son. the mail on sunday has the same photo splashed across its front page — wilfred johnson being cuddled by his mother, carrie symonds. the sunday times focuses on the debate over strict lockdown rules for the elderly. the british medical association is arguing for restrictions to be relaxed for healthy people over 70. the sunday express looks at the prime minister's plans for getting people back to work post—lockdown. it says the government is drawing up 11 new rules to help make the workplace safer.

and finally, the sunday mirror continues its campaign for people working on the coronavirus front line to receive bonus pay. it also reports on drug trials in the uk that could help ease the suffering of some victims. so, let's begin. let's start with the sun on sunday and the first interview from boris johnson about how his admission into hospitalfor johnson about how his admission into hospital for intensive care for treatment of coronavirus. i understand on pages four and five there is a reference to the 2017 political satire felt the death of stalin. you are on it now. you are on it now. yes, i think as nigel said previously, this is an interview full of boris isms. he talks about the indicators or monitors coming in the wrong directions and stuff like that. but underneath all of that boris blustar, it is clear that it was a very emotional time. a very

emotional interview. he talks about a statement being prepared which shows how very gravely ill he was. he talks about how it was hard to believe how quickly his health deteriorated. and he also talks about and admits that he was in denial, that although he was ill and he was self isolating in downing street and working on video links and things like that, he carried on working even though in his words he fell com pletely working even though in his words he fell completely wasted. so i think it is quite revealing, revealing of him as someone who is always full of bluster and optimism and everything else, but i think he has faced reality, he knows he was extremely seriously ill, he knows it is luck but also the intense skill and care that he received which has obviously been honoured in the naming of the baby. but it is an interesting interview for sure. nigel coming to beat the sense from the interview of

a changed man? actually i think we do. i certainly think that a brush with death has certainly changed him and he starts thinking in terms now of where he was very keen to get the economy started, restarted as soon as possible, and now he seems to be an awful lot more cautious. now that he has experienced what covid—19 can do. and of course we at least know i'iow do. and of course we at least know now and he was comparing himself to a comedy film, i am not a soviet dictator. she said it's all right on that one. my culture references have been fully updated in the last hour. let's go to the next newspaper and the sunday times with the lead story, set free healthy over 70 say doctors. the role college of gp says age alone should not determine people possibility to go out on their own lives —— of their lives. people in their 70s have been

writing operas and doing ultramarathon. because they are over 70 does not mean they had nothing to contribute. had we effected that in? it is ridiculous and it always has been to lot people togetherjust because of their age. the british medical association says a blanket ban is discriminatory and is not equitable and there has been an awful lot of disgruntled bunt and more from very fit, active, healthy over 72 think why should they be trapped at home. and i think if we are going to manage a return to some sort of normal, new normal, the government will have to have time to handle this very carefully and it is utterly ridiculous at somebody who is fit and sensible and active and more than capable of behaving properly should be confined just because of their age when other people who may have underlying health problems or who are equally at risk are more at risk are allowed

to go out and about. it is bonkers. soi to go out and about. it is bonkers. so i think this is a very important move and i think it will take a lot of the pressure off because the isolation of people and particularly older people who cannot see their grandchildren and cannot see their children, many people in their 70s have very active social lives as well and they are also useful members of the community. don'tjust write people awful is that we have seen what seven people in care homes over years and years of neglect which is now come back to haunt us literally. with a terrifying death figures in the government needs to get this right. and actually try and ta ke get this right. and actually try and take and treat people, not as homogenous groups but actually as individuals who are grown—ups and sensible by giving them information to make proper decisions. sensible by giving them information to make proper decisionslj sensible by giving them information to make proper decisions. i was struck when i spoke to over 70s who said we want to be out there and wa nt to said we want to be out there and want to contribute and want to understand why the government took decisions couple of months ago but there is a toll on them.

decisions couple of months ago but there is a toll on themlj decisions couple of months ago but there is a toll on them. i think that's right. i think also she makes a very good point there, we should be treating people as individuals, not as a herd so therefore if you are over70, not as a herd so therefore if you are over 70, suddenly you have to be locked up for three months. and i think also as the science begins to improve on this, we begin to find out that people who have different reactions sojenny out that people who have different reactions so jenny harris the deputy chief medical officer was saying in the briefing today that there are some people who are taking anti—arthritis drugs who may have some protection from covid—19. now we did not know that a few weeks ago but the point she is making is there could be other reasons why the over 705 are perhaps even less at risk other people. we will go from the over 70s to i guess the under sevens. the sunday telegraph primary schools to go back injune. if you read the article does that sound

physical —— feasible? read the article does that sound physical -- feasible? i think it is an aspiration. i think there is a great danger in coming up with dates. we have seen what happened to 100,000 coronavirus testing. you put a figure or a day on something and you are politician people will hold you are politician people will hold you to account quite rightly. it is an aspiration, has always been knocking around that they would if schools were going to go back that they would go back probably after they would go back probably after the end of may bank holiday half term. now there are several things here. they would not i'll go back in mass. they would be different classrooms and teachers and teaching and nonteaching staff would have to be clear and comfortable that sufficient safety and protection measures were in place. but i think there is also the question and again it comes back to how you manage the return, if you are going to care people with you to my parents have

got to feel comfortable about their children going back to school and although obviously if you get young children back to school it frees up pa rents to children back to school it frees up parents to go back to work. but there is no point in doing it if pa rents a re there is no point in doing it if parents are not going to send their kids to school. we have got to handle this very carefully. and in that same article in the telegraph, the university of dundee is quoted and they are warning thatjust10% of pre—lockdown contact could risk a second peak. so you don't want to go back and then find that actually you have made things worse because then the lot and will be much greater. i mean at the moment it does not appear that children seem to be particularly susceptible to the virus itself but they are infection spreaders. they are little germ wa rfa re spreaders. they are little germ warfare on two legs. we all know that. let's go to the sunday express now and the pm plans to get britain

working. markings for distancing and face covers and they have a number of proposals. i should say that when i read through all the proposals, they are exactly what this organisation has done behind me here. we have got one—way systems, we have got all over the floors. very briefly on this, you know what i say briefly in the second will be see all this in all offices? i say briefly in the second will be see all this in all office5?|j i say briefly in the second will be see all this in all offices? i think we are. and compare it to the bbc andl we are. and compare it to the bbc and i compare it to my local supermarket. who does it better? sometimes i have been lockdown. you will come back later i promise. you get a double go because i go back to you for the sunday mirror. the article on the front page reward our brae front line heroes is written by you. indeed, yes. we have been running this campaign on the sunday mirrorandl running this campaign on the sunday mirrorand i think running this campaign on the sunday mirror and i think there is general

agreement that nhs worker5 mirror and i think there is general agreement that nhs workers and care home 5taff really do deserve agreement that nhs workers and care home staff really do deserve a pay rise. when this is over. the trouble is that a pay rise takes a long time to deliver. and what we are suggesting is we could deliver and given the reward now and base that reward on the operation allowance that our troops get when i go into war zones. and we have lost a petition now on the palmistry website to do just that. your reaction to this story?” website to do just that. your reaction to this story? i think it isa reaction to this story? i think it is a great campaign but i think ed davey the acting leader of the liberal democrats to suggest that some time ago so i hope he gets credit. it is perfectly sensible campaign that people who are working ridiculous hours in the front line of this terrible battle should be rewarded somehow. we did not catch

your reply there. add that support oui’ your reply there. add that support ourcampaign. your reply there. add that support our campaign. going back to the sunday times and the scientists challenging number ten with travel advice on covid—19. this goes back to something that has been an issue in recent weeks. and many scientists to the government hear from? should there be more than one voice and does science speak with one voice? a few months ago them i have all said yes but now it turns out that there are many different scientific opinions. rather like economists. a few of them in the same room and they will not come up with the same answer. this is sir david king, a former chief scientific adviser himself to a couple of prime ministers. and he is setting up a rival group to sage to actually look at alternatives to what sage are proposing. now all they one hand

there is an argument against this because to have two groups operating could be very confusing for the rest of us. however, i broadly agree with this. i mean, sage, i'm sure they are very well—meaning but i don't like the secrecy that surrounds them. we still don't know exactly who the membership is, we do know that dominic cummings has been listening into meetings and contributing himself to them. and so there is a bit of a question about their independence. bear in mind they all do work for the government. so broadly despite some reservations i will come once or david king is doing. we have often heard ministers saying we are following the science and then when you go on to the minute you find a lot of scientists say the scientists are a lot more complex than what we are following the sites is it worth having this rebel group? i think it is a very interesting move by sir david king because what they are doing is going to hold their first meeting on

monday. and they are going to broadcast it live on youtube and i think this is go back to what nigel said about the secrecy around sage, and the fact that dominic cummings has been attending it and there is a quote from david king in the sunday times about dominic cummings is an adviser to the prime minister and the chief scientific adviser is an adviser to the prime minister and there are two voices but only one of them understands science. and i think we know who he means. the problem with science is it is very difficult for the rest of us to understand so quite often it gets written about and broadcast and talked about in bite—size chunks that are not necessarily the whole story. it is not lazyjournalism, it is just too complicated unless you have got the science editors & specialists. and here we are absolutely awash with science and i think what david king is doing is trying to the process for

decision—making much more transparent. that is interesting. now to the mail on sunday which was a patient a lot of other have been running and we can now talk about it in the picture of the newborn son abortion chanson with a distinctive head of hair. and we understand —— his newborn son of borisjohnson. they have called him nick after doctors nick price and nick hart who looked after the prime minister and hospital i think is lovely thing to do. i'm going back to your original question about how this might changed the prime minister. obviously a near—death experience like this certainly has but it is great that is part of that, that these two names can live on in his new son. briefly your thoughts on that photo. we began with boris

johnson and in with his son.” that photo. we began with boris johnson and in with his son. i think as chris mason was saying to you earlier, james, you could not really make it up, the life of a day in the week or a week in the day of the life of boris johnson. week or a week in the day of the life of borisjohnson. within days are coming out of hospital having been close to death, he has kept his newborn baby. extraordinary amount of hairfora newborn baby. extraordinary amount of hairfor a very new newborn baby. extraordinary amount of hair for a very new baby. but it isa of hair for a very new baby. but it is a lovely photograph and i think we all need cheering up and new babies are quite good for that. perhaps not for the mother and father who are awake at night. thank you so much. that's it for the papers tonight. my thanks tojo and nigel. the film review is next. goodbye for now.