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this is bbc news with the latest headlines for viewers in the uk and around the world. is staggering uk workers‘ hours the solution — post lockdown — to prevent overcrowding on public transport? the government says it's considering the idea and in an interview, the uk prime minister has described preparations to announce his death . while he was in intensive care for coronavirus. churches in germany reopen for sunday services. with strict regulations in force and singing forbidden. russia reports a record one—day rise in coronavirus infections, with more than 10,000 people testing positive. india's military pays tribute to health workers, showering them with petals in gratitude for their work.
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the uk government says it's considering different options for how to start taking the country out of lockdown, including changing working hours, as the british prime minister has spoken for the first time in detail about his experience of being in intensive care with the disease. in speaking to the sun on sunday borisjohnson said "contingency plans" were made to announce his death while he was seriously ill with covid—19. speaking to the bbc this morning, transport secretary grant shapps said the new nhs contact tracing app is being trialled on the isle of wight this week before being rolled out more widely later this month. meanwhile it's emerged that more than 2,000 patients in england, wales and northen ireland admitted to intensive care with coronavirus also suffered kidney failure. those affected received specialist
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renal support treatment but that led to a shortage in essential equipment. elsewhere, churches, mosques and synagogues in germany are opening today for the first time since the lockdown there began in march. but, the number of worshippers will be restricted and singing is banned, as officials in germany say it can spread the virus. 2a hours since the north korean leader kim jong—un re—appeared after a three week absense, north and south korea have exchanged gunfire in the demilitarised zone between the two countries. no casualties have been reported. well, first, with more on that interview boris johnson has given, here's jonathan blake. for the first time since returning to work, the prime minister has talked in detail about how seriously he suffered with coronavirus. in an interview with the sun on sunday, borisjohnson reveals that while in intensive care he and those around him had prepared for the worst. mrjohnson said, "i wasjust incredibly frustrated because the indicators kept going
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in the wrong direction. and i thought, there's no medicine for this thing and there's no cure " "i was fully conscious," said the prime minister, "and all too aware of what was going on." "the bad moment came," he said, "when it was 50—50 whether they were going to have to put a tube down my windpipe. it was a tough old moment, i won't deny it." reflecting on his experience, the prime minister said that, "so many who've lost loved ones. and so if you ask me, am i driven by a desire to stop other people suffering?" "yes," he said, "i absolutely am." there was something different about him. he looked more... his emotions looked a little bit more raw. he was clearly aware ofjust how close he came to death, and there was a mixture of elation. the birth of his son. joy- but also a seriousness and a bit of relief. and a little bit of exhaustion, i would think, too. the prime minister also stressed his desire to get the country back on its feet. exactly how, we will
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find out this week, but ministers say tracking and tracing those with the virus and the people they've come into contact with will soon be crucial. we will be asking the whole country, where possible, to download this mobile phone app which will help automatically to remove the need for people, individuals, to be involved, because that will say if you and i have it and we are within bluetooth range of each other and i'm later tested and i'm positive it will alert you, so it removes the need to have a person in between. we are told there is no date set for schools to reopen but this morning the welsh first minister gave a rough idea of the earliest that some pupils could return. our advice from the trades unions and from the local education authorities is that it will need three weeks as a minimum from the point that we decide to do that when the schools can reopen, so we are talking about the beginning ofjune there. and we are thinking about ways in which we can bring young people with special educational
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needs back into education. we're thinking about particular year groups. as he makes decisions about the way forward, like so many others who have suffered with coronavirus, the prime minister knows personally what is at stake. jonathan blake, bbc news. and jonathan is with me now. it must be sobering for anybody and iam it must be sobering for anybody and i am talking in particular about the prime minister, to know that a strategy had been put together by doctors to cope, if you die. yes, as he said in an interview, he was conscious throughout, even the three nights he was in intensive care and he knew what was happening around him, he knew what the doctors were saying and talking about it is clear from the prime minister's comments in that interview, that he and his medical team were preparing for the worse at one point and that is a measure of just how worse at one point and that is a measure ofjust how serious things we re measure ofjust how serious things were and it is interesting to hear him were and it is interesting to hear hi m reflect were and it is interesting to hear him reflect on that experience and say that he is now motivated by a
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desire to prevent other people from suffering and also to get the country back on its feet but yes, those are the first words in detail that we have heard about the prime minister's experience in hospital and it contrasts with what we were saying in the days running up to his admission and even during his stay in hospital, that he was in good spirits, not doing too badly, there was clearly a, some very worrying moments for him. and is part of the effort to get britain back to something vaguely approximating normal, is the idea of using an app that will trace people's contacts, but that will take quite a lot of people to get that up and running. it is, the transport secretary said, it will need the vast majority of people to download it and install it further the app to be effective. it works on the basis of tracking who you have come into contact with, or
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at least the proximity to which you have been within close to other people, and it uses that, if you notify the app to say that you have coronavirus symptoms to say, to start looking at the people you have come into contact with and you may have to isolate as a result. we know it will be trialled on the isle of wight in the coming weeks, this coming week, and that it is hoped will lay the groundwork for it to be set out to more widely across the uk and we don't have much detail about how the system is going to work, but ministers are saying that it will be crucial in the next phase of the uk's response to coronavirus because only if you can contain the virus in certain areas and get a hold on outbreaks and cases as and when they appear, can you allow the rest of the country to get back to something like life as normal. and it won't be business as normal straightaway, that will take a long time. and this idea of a staggered start to working
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times is being considered. yes, there are several plans under consideration, it seems like the plan is falling into place in government but we won't be told exactly what comes next until thursday and some of these ideas we have been reading about and hearing about in recent days, i suspect will be part of that and others won't. the transport secretary said this morning that they are looking at standard working hours so some businesses perhaps might have employees coming into work for part of the day, not normal working hours, he talked about buses and trains being allowed to run more than they are at the moment and also interestingly, he said that the government is seriously considering asking travellers arriving in the uk to quarantine for up to two weeks. all of those things along with everything else, perhaps being able to socialise with a limited number of people, businesses being able to open that weren't at first as long as they adhere to social distancing guidelines will be part of the mix, but what we won't see come thursday
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isa but what we won't see come thursday is a wholesale lifting of the restrictions overnight, it won't be a return to normal, anything but. thank you, jonathan. churches in germany are opening for sunday services for the first time since the country's coronavirus lockdown began in march. but strict safety guidelines will apply and singing will be banned to help stop new infections. germany is just one of many european countries that are gradually easing restrictions as the number of infections comes down, with austria now allowing all shops to reopen, and portugal lifting its six—week state of emergency. for more on the logistics of holding religious services with the restrictions, i've been speaking to our correspondent in berlin, damien mcguinness. today, as you say, is the first day that sunday services can take place in germany since the middle of march really. not all churches will start, though, opening their doors to worshippers just yet because strict restrictions are needed. so some churches have already started services today but others
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are trying to figure out how they can go along with these new rules because, for example, in some churches they're talking about having to go in one entrance and leave from another door, another exit. other churches are thinking of how to spread out congregations because you can only have... you still have to have distances between worshippers, as you said earlier. singing is not allowed because it's thought that loud singing, forceful singing is quite a dangerous way to spread the infection, and also numbers are going to be restricted of people entering churches. some churches are even registering people as they come in, so it's quite complicated. also synagogues and mosques are looking at how they can go along with new regulations and are allowed to open. they haven'tjust yet because again, they are also trying to figure out how to best protect worshippers, so it's quite a complicated situation and it's reallyjust one part of the broader picture here in germany where all sorts of sectors are reopening but trying to figure out how to do it in a safe
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way and how to do it while going along with the new regulations, which the government has enforced in order to prevent another wave of infections sparking off here in germany. spain has recorded its lowest daily number of deaths linked to coronavirus, since its lockdown was declared in mid— march. another 164 people have died. it's also detected fewer than a thousand new infections for the first time in a similar period, and despite higher rates of testing. at a news conference in madrid, spain's health ministry emergencies coordinator, said the figures were good, but cautioned that weekend numbers are sometimes lower. translation: today's figures are evolving with the same trend. we have only 838 cases. to say "only" in this situation is always a bit strange. but the truth is, it's a good figure if we compare it with the previous days. we know it's a weekend, a long weekend, so sharp declines in these periods we have to value
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them carefully and see if they are consolidated in the coming days. but 838 is the lowest figure we have had in the last weeks. however, it's a different story in russia, which has recorded its biggest one—day rise in new coronavirus cases since the start of the outbreak, with more than 10 thousand people testing positive on sunday. however, the mortality rate remains relatively low, with 68 deaths recorded in the past 2a hours. 0ur correspondent sarah rainsford explained what the figures mean. yet, according to the official statistics around i% of those who are confirmed to have coronavirus have been dying of the illness, so it is round about 1200 people so far. but certainly in the last few days, we have seen an increase in the recorded number of people with the infection. now, officials here are saying that that is because testing has been increased quite significantly, particularly here in moscow over
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the past couple of days, so they are now carrying out, they say, some 40,000 tests in moscow every day. something like 170,000 across the country. they are saying that of those that are being picked up, those cases picked up, some 50% of the new cases are those who don't have symptoms of the illness, so they are doing screening, for example of medical staff, that is why some of those asymptomatic cases are being picked up. also, screening those who have been in contact with people who are confirmed to have coronavirus. there is quite a lot of this sort of testing and tracing that is going on here in russia, but certainly there have also been questions about the numbers in terms of the death rates, people questioning how exactly corona death figures are recorded so i think there are still some doubts around that particular figure. the world health organisation has warned that countries which are lifting their lockdowns may face a second wave of infections. dr maria van kerkhove is the covid
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19 technical lead at the who, and she told the bbc‘s andrew marr show that any easing of restrictions must be slow and staggered. what we're seeing in a number of countries that have been successful in repressing transmission is that the virus can... is that many more people remain susceptible. and what we are seeing countries like singapore where they have seen almost like a second wave, essentially what it is, is outbreaks that are happening in expat dormitories so the virushas found a place that it can take hold and it can resurge again. so all countries must remain on alert for the possibility of additional transmission, even if they have been successful in suppressing transmission the first round. it's emerged that more than two thousand coronavirus patients in intensive care in england, wales and northern ireland had to be treated for kidney failure as well as respiratory problems. those affected received specialist renal support treatment and that led to a shortage in essential equipment. angus crawford reports
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meet maurice marshall before covid — singer and student... ..and now survivor. i was terrified, petrified. well, as i got into the ambulance, looked at the house, i thought, "say goodbye to the house, you're not coming back," because i was struggling to breathe. he spent 22 days on a ventilator. the virus attacked his lungs and moved on through the body. my kidneys failed several times, so what people do fail to realise is that with covid, it's notjust about covid pneumonia, you know, you get a bit of a heavy—duty flu, or you have problems breathing, it does go for other internal organs. the latest figures show more than 20% of those in intensive care suffer kidney failure. many needed specialist treatment. some with this kind of machine, delivering what's called renal replacement therapy. the virus can be seen within the very fine structures of the kidneys, and it also affects the stickiness of the blood.
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the blood becomes very sludgy, and because the kidneys are full of little blood vessels, it sludges up in the kidneys and therefore the kidneys start to fail. leading to a worldwide surge in demand for machines, tubes, filters and fluids. this german factory has increased production, but there's a warning of severe disruption to supply in the uk. british doctors are having to use new techniques to conserve equipment. some patients are now sharing machines. the volume of kidney failure has reached the point that neither myself nor my colleagues have ever seen such a great surge in the incidence of acute kidney injury, and that is certainly putting stress on the system. but a word of reassurance too — these machines are only used in intensive care, not for the 30,000 or so people who need regular dialysis in the community.
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that service shouldn't be affected. this thing, it's vicious. it's non—discerning, it will go for anyone. we really do have to focus and not get lax about it, because that's when things will get worse again. angus crawford, bbc news. north and south korean troops have exchanged gunfire along the demilitarised zone which separates the two countries. that's according to officials in seoul. the south korean military says multiple bullets were fired from the north which hit a guard post, prompting troops to broadcast a warning and fire back. laura bicker, our correspondent in seoul, gave us some more details on the incident and what it means. these incidents are kind of rare. the last exchange of fire was in 2017 when a north korean soldier made a dash across to the south in a hail of bullets. when it comes to the motivation behind this, the south korean military is trying to find out, was it a deliberate act
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on behalf of the north? or simply an accident? right now, a south korean official has said he is assessing a low probability that this was a deliberate act, but they are still trying to contact the north to find out. his assessment is based on the fact that four bullets were fired which hit the guard post but it was not the optimum firing range, and he said the weather was bad and there were no unusual north korean troop movements. but again that is one assessment, not the final assessment. the timing of this is what many people are kinda worried about, because it comes just 2a hours after kimjong—un, the north korean leader, made his reappearance after a 21—day absence. in the past, the north has made deliberate provocations to the south to try to use it as leverage when it comes to negotiations. so some are concerned that might be going on, but right now more details are needed. meanwhile, let's talk about coronavirus.
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the authorities in the south korea have been widely praised for the way they have handled the outbreak. what is the latest on social distancing rules and regulations there? when you say social distancing, i raise an eyebrow and it will make a few people around the world very jealous, but there are very few social distancing guidelines here. 0bviously, wearing masks, that is part of culture here. there were temperature checks. but many places have remained open, restaurants, cafes and bars have all been open throughout the crisis. there was a time when many people stayed at home because they were asked to, but there was never any lockdown. cases have declined rapidly. today, 13 cases announced, that is the highest for the last few days. we had zero locally transmitted cases on thursday. the majority of cases are coming from overseas, found at the airport. anyone coming from the
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united states, from europe, they are automatically given a test and they must spend 1a days in quarantine. the latest announcement by the prime minister today, just a formal announcement saying it is an end to the current social distancing guidelines, and now the advice is keep washing your hands, just be very careful. and now they are looking to reopen the schools in the next few weeks. breaking news to bring you now, nhs england has announced 327 new deaths of people who tested positive for coronavirus and died in hospital. that is 327 new deaths that have been announced, that brings the total number of reported deaths in hospitals in england to 21,118. just a reminder, that is only for
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england, not for the other nations in the united kingdom and also, the hospitals only, so it doesn't include people who died in care homes. those figures include some deaths that had previously been uncounted during the whole of april and up to the 2nd of may. these figures continue to show that april the 8th had the highest number of hospital deaths in a single day, which was 867, so the figure now at 327, but just for england which was 867, so the figure now at 327, butjust for england and just in hospitals. the next phase of india's lockdown is starting tomorrow. the world's largest national lockdown began in late march with severe restrictions in place for 1.3 billion people. but those restrictions are being relaxed. the country is being divided into three zones — red, orange and green depending on how many cases there are with different arrangements in each zone.
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ramanan laxminarayan is in delhi, and advises various indian state governments on the covid—19 pandemic. thank you forjoining us. 0bviously, a country with as many people in it who live so close together in many cases has to approach covid—19 rather differently from other countries. how well has the lockdown gonein countries. how well has the lockdown gone in india? the lockdown has been remarkably effective, even considering the difficulty in physically distancing from each other. the rate of doubling of cases was happening probably every four days, prior to the lockdown and it slowed down tremendously to about ten days. which, essentially, was the projection prior to the lockdown which buys the country around a month of time to prepare and that time has now been used to prepare for the itu beds and the ppe to be
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able to take it on when it comes. but, within the lockdown, people are still expected to try to social distance. how do people manage that when they are living on top of each other? well, not everybody is living on top of each other but many people are, certainly more room for people in rural areas but if you live in an urban slum, much more difficult. keepin urban slum, much more difficult. keep in mind, we are trying to reduce transmission on average, so some people are able to physically distance and it helps, it helps that people aren't on public transport, so people aren't on public transport, $03 people aren't on public transport, so a significant amount of ability of the virus to transmit has been curtailed by this policy and response. this is obviously not a long—term solution, people can't live this way forever, so we had bought their time and now it is time to go back to a more cautious approach to life which will still keep the rate of progress down but we will make sure that... how
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damaging has it been in particular for poorer communities where perhaps people rely on earning a daily wage? i think it has been extremely damaging at all levels, i think people, there are around a50 million indians who rely on a daily wage and although there has been some hand—outs from the government, not all of it has reached them and it is obviously devastating for people who can't make a living and they certainly don't alljust can't make a living and they certainly don't all just want to get a hand—out. it has been hard... it has been hard to businesses at all levels because pretty much everything, except for essential goods, essentially food, has been shut down. it is going to take a while for the economy to recover and it has been an essential lockdown from a disease perspective but a damaging one from main economic perspective. at what point, then, does the government say that we have just got to look at the economic
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fallout of this and value that, over the health impact? i think that is already happening, in fact although this third phase which starts from tomorrow is called a lockdown, it is really not that. there are containment zones, read restrictions, in which you are allowed to go to work, offices can open with around one third of their staff capacity, there is certainly more room for people to move around, public transport is not back on but private transport is allowed with restrictions and there are orange and green zones in which more activity is allowed. so, without saying so, and perhaps lockdown is not the right word for this. this is somewhere in between a full lockdown and allowing all activity to commence and it is a happy medium because we still need to pay attention to the virus but this allows the livelihoods to be accounted. we really appreciate you
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talking to us, director of the centre for disease, dynamics, economics and policy in delhi. thank you forjoining us. business groups and trade unions across the uk are receiving draft guidance from ministers today about safer working practices once lockdown measures are eased. the british chambers of commerce has said the government need to keep levels of public spending high to help boost the economy after the lockdown is lifted. our business correspondent katy austin has more liz and phil's independent health club near nottingham had to close in march, like other leisure businesses. revenue has ceased but the costs haven't, so huge impact. support schemes, including furloughing employees, have helped. but will soon run out, so they want to know when they can reopen. we also need to know how we can reopen, the scope of it, and also how many people we will be allowed to have in, because if the turnover will be
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restricted by the fact that we've got to keep huge social distancing measures in force. they think further support will be needed. extending the furlough scheme may be one thing the government could do. we have also talked about potentially, rather than deferring vat or tax, that they could potentially write that off. that would mean additional cost to the taxpayer, and tens of billions of pounds has already been spent on emergency support schemes for businesses, but the british chambers of commerce says high public spending levels should continue if necessary, and called for a phased reopening of the economy. 0ther workplaces waiting for advice on reopening are offices. there are measures we're putting in place, like hand sanitiser, bacterial desk wipes, which is really important. spacing. one thing we are looking at incorporating is a shift system, so perhaps an a shift and a b shift.
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announcer: social distancing measures are in operation on our services... business leaders have received draft government guidance today, and there are plans are being worked out for how commuters can start using trains again, but the path back to business as normal will be very long. how stressful has this been for you? on a scale of 1—10, i would say about 1000. very stressful, lots of sleepless nights, because at the end of the day, this is our whole livelihood, and we don't know where our future lies at all. now it's time for a look at the weather with ben a bit of patchy rain across some southern areas but hefty showers up to the north and east and some of those will continue right through into the evening across eastern scotla nd into the evening across eastern scotland and north—east england particularly, one or two showers for northern ireland. tonight, some of
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those showers will linger close to north sea coast, clouds down towards the south, so mild but with clearer skies, a chilly night and a touch of frost the stone. across these northern and western parts of the uk, we will sell it a lot of sunshine through tomorrow, more cloud the further south and east you are. a scattering of showers across the east of england but not as heavy as the showers we have seen during today. increasingly windy, particularly down towards the south, one for many but a bit cooler for some north sea coast. tuesday will bring some rain towards the south and west of the uk, a lot of dry weather and then a mid week, it turns warmer. hello, this is bbc news with martine croxall. the headlines: the uk government says it's considering staggering uk workers' hours — post lockdown — to prevent overcrowding on public transport. in an interview, uk prime minister borisjohnson has described preparations to announce his death while he was in intensive
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care for coronavirus. churches in germany reopen for sunday services — with strict regulations in force and singing forbidden. russia reports a record one—day rise in coronavirus infections — with more than 10,000 people testing positive. india's military pays tribute to health workers — showering them with petals in gratitude for their work. now on bbc news — it's the week in parliament. hello there, and welcome to the week in parliament, where there are more questions for ministers over the government's handling of coronavirus. the labour leader wants to know... why he thinks that coronavirus continues to spread so fast in the care sector?
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