this is bbc news. i'm simon mccoy. this is bbc news. the headlines: i'm simon mccoy. the headlines: more than 30,000 people in the uk virgin atlantic announces 3000 have now died from coronavirus. job cuts and the end of services at gatwick airport the number of deaths in care because of the impact homes continues to rise. of coronavirus. criticism of the uk's initial coronavirus testing procedure more than 30,000 people in the uk from its own chief have now died in the pandemic — the number of deaths in care homes scientific adviser. continues to rise. i think if we'd managed to ramp criticism of the uk's initial testing capacity quicker it would coronavirus testing procedure — have been beneficial. from its own chief for all sorts of reasons, scientific adviser. i think if we'd managed to ramp testing capacity quicker it would have been beneficial. that didn't happen. for all sorts of reasons, virgin atlantic announces 3000 job cuts and the end of services that didn't happen. at gatwick airport as a result of the pandemic. scotland's first minister outlines plans to ease a new nhs app to trace the spread lockdown restrictions, but says it's unlikely measures of coronavirus is trialed which, will be relaxed this week. if successful, could be expanded in weeks. we must see further restrictions and an urgent review is launched

after pictures emerge of this in new cases, hospital and icu aer lingus flight to london with no admissions and deaths, apparent social distancing. to be sure that the overall level of infection and the r number are lower than they are now. a new nhs app to trace the spread of coronavirus is trialed which, if successful, could be expanded in weeks. and coming up — we'll be answering your questions in a special look at how the virus good afternoon. virgin atlantic has announced is impacting education. it is to cutjobs in the uk and end its operation at gatwick, as the airline industry continues to struggle amid the coronavirus pandemic. 3000 jobs in the uk are to go. amid the coronavirus pandemic. the company says it plans to reshape and resize its business in response to the outbreak. good afternoon. more than 30,000 people have died more than 30,000 people have died with coronavirus in the uk since the epidemic began. with coronavirus in the uk since the epidemic began. new data shows that nearly a quarter of all registered coronavirus deaths were in care homes. new data shows that nearly a quarter of all registered coronavirus deaths were in care homes. there's been criticism of the uk's a new nhs app to track the spread intital testing strategy — of coronavirus is being rolled out chief scientific adviser sir patrick vallance said it would have been on the isle of wight today. better if capacity had been

increased more quickly, the trial will help shape the uk and the deputy chief medical officer government's strategy for easing for england, jenny harries, the lockdown. told mps things would have been more on all those stories — including thejob cuts "done differently" if more tests had at virgin atlantic — been available in the early coming up shortly. stages of the outbreak. but first this report 0ur health correspondent from lauren moss. the true cost of coronavirus lauren moss reports. is becoming clearer every week. more than 30,000 people are now the true cost of coronavirus thought to have died is becoming clearer every week. with covid—19 in the uk. more than 30,000 people are now thought up to the 24th of april, to have died with a quarter of those deaths were in care homes alone. although slightly less covid—19 in the uk. than the week before, the total number is still more than double what we would expect at this time of year. up to the 24th of april a quarter of deaths were in care homes alone. these are largely deaths although it's likely that were taking place less than the week before, the total number is still until around the 20th, 21st of april. more than double what we would expect this time of year. that is about four or five weeks these are largely deaths that were taking after the lockdown was first advised place until around the 20th, 21st of april. that is about four or five weeks and then instructed, so if we think about the timeline after the lockdown was first of the disease, it often about three orfour weeks from becoming infected advised and then to, sadly, death. instructed, so if we think about the timeline of the but the real number of those disease, it often about three who have lost their lives orfour weeks from becoming infected to, sadly, death. in the community is expected but the real number of those to rise further. who have lost their they are not just figures of course,

lives in the community they are someone's mother, father, sister, brother, is expected to rise further. a loved person and we must never they are not just figures, lose sight of that but we need more of course, they are someone's help from the government on testing, mother, father, sister, brother, a loved person and we must never lose sight of that, on ppe and financial support but we need more help and i think we need more help from the government so we can reduce the deaths in care on homes going forward. testing, on ppe and financial we need to be on the centre and not the periphery. today government advisers have been discussing the response support and i think we need more to the pandemic and said wider testing earlier may have been useful. if we had managed to ramp help so we can reduce the deaths in care homes. testing capacity quicker it we need to be on the would have been beneficial, centre and not the and, you know, for all sorts periphery. today government advisers have been of reasons that did not happen. discussing the response to the pandemic and said wider testing earlier may have been useful. if we had managed to and i think it is clear you need ramp testing capacity quicker it would have been lots of testing for this, beneficial, and, you know, for all sorts of reasons but to echo what jenny harries has that did not happen. and i think it is clear you need said, it is completely wrong lots of testing for this, but to to think of testing as the answer, it's just part of the system that echo what jenny harries has said, it is completely wrong to think of you need to get right. testing as the answer, it's just new documents from the scientific a part of the system you need advisory group for emergencies, known as sage, detail possible to get right. solutions for gradually easing new documents from the

scientific advisory group for lockdown restrictions including a traffic light system for high, emergencies, known as sage, detailed medium and low risk activities, possible solutions for gradually and a warning that any easing lockdown restrictions future antibody tests, which would detect if someone has had the virus, could be misused. including a traffic light system for high, medium and low risk activities, and a warning that any future antibody tests, which would the health secretary has detect if someone has had the virus, announced that all nhs staff could be misused. with or without symptoms will now be the health secretary has tested for covid—19, announced that all nhs staff with or without and he said getting personal symptoms will now be protective equipment to all health tested for covid—19 and social care staff is still a priority. of course this is incredibly and he important to make sure said getting personal protective that we protect those who live equipment to all health and social care staff is still a priority. in social care, who receive social of course this is care in their own home, incredibly important to make sure that we protect those and i'm glad that in the numbers who live in social care, who released this morning, receive social care the data released by the office in their own homes, for national statistics, and i'm glad the number of deaths in care that in the homes is slightly lower, numbers released this morning, but it is still far too high and there is a huge amount the data released by the office for of work still to do. national statistics and the number of deaths in care homes is slightly lower but it is still far too high as the death toll climbs, there are calls for small scale and there is a huge amount of work funeral services to resume in churches to honour still to do. the wishes of the deceased as the death toll climbs, and their loved ones.

there are calls for small each day of this pandemic brings scale funeral services to resume in churches new pain, but also some new hope to honour the wishes of the for how to get through it. deceased and their loved ones. lauren moss, bbc news. each day of this pandemic brings new pain, but also some new hope for how to get through it. lauren moss, bbc news. virgin atlantic is to cut 3000 jobs in the uk and end its operation at gatwick. virgin atlantic is to cut 3000 the company says it plans to reshape jobs in the uk and end and resize its business in response to the pandemic. its operation at gatwick. let's speak to brian strutton, general secretary of the british airline pilots' the company says it plans to reshape association, or balpa. and resize its business in response to the pandemic. 0ur transport correspondent, this is a significant announcement. tom burridge, is with us. forvirgin to this is a huge announcement. this is a significant announcement. for virgin to announce it is cutting massive, simon. there is a horrible one third of its uk workforce and sense of deja vu because only last pulling out of gatwick entirely, it week we had british airways coming is another bitter blow for the aviation industry who have had out with 12,000 job cuts and basically saying that they might not 23,000 aviationjob aviation industry who have had 23,000 aviation job losses in the restart their operation at gatwick past week, another 30,000 today. airport. to date virgin atlantic some serious issues are going on for saying 3000 jobs will go, they all of the airlines and that will currently employ 10,000 people in affect the whole of the uk aviation

the uk and they say they are gatwick industry. yes, another bit of bad operation will not restart, at least in the near to medium term. they news today. was it inevitable? i don't think it will still keep some of the gatwick is inevitable at all. 0bviously slots, not ruling overturning every airline has been struggling altogether, but they are going to because of the shutdown of air cut the size of their of aircraft travel, the coronavirus crisis, but down, that the standard for government said it would help and a i rcrafts down, that the standard for aircrafts at the moment —— standard for airlines at the moment. they say step in and help airlines, we've not seen any of that and virgin has said they hope to restore about 60% of to us today it was required to carry flight they hope to restore about 60% of flight capacity by the end of the out this as part of its approval for year. but it is all very uncertain, any application for help to airlines across the board or government, which seems quite haemorrhaging cash and on real problems and in the case of virgin bizarre to me. i thought it was all atlantic, they are going through a about trying to protectjobs. i would like to know where government process with the government where they are applying for emergency stands on this. loa ns, they are applying for emergency loans, that is ongoing. if hired an virgin are not alone, british airways, ryanair, virgin are not alone, british airways, rya nair, everybody virgin are not alone, british airways, ryanair, everybody in at the same difficulty because of this investment bank to attract new pandemic, but let's be realistic, what can you do, what are you going investment bank to attract new investment and get the private sector to stump up some of the to fight them with? investment. there were suggestions at one stage there is lots of things we can fight

sir richard branson was looking for them with but it is not a matter of a buyer. i think what might be the case, and us fighting, this is about the iam only survival aviation, third largest i think what might be the case, and i am only speculating, as part of aviation industry in the world, this deal, if the government and which are so critical for the whole virgin atlantic reach a deal, if you uk economy. as a nation we will not be able to come out of this crisis think the aeroplane has brought into this investment bank to attract new if we don't have a viable uk airline investors, you would imagine sir operation, and at the end of this richard branson 51% stake, mate as a year we've got full brexit and we will need this industry working result of this overall deal, reduce. well. it's really up to government to sit down with the whole industry, —— hasa result of this overall deal, reduce. —— has a stake might produce. the we us and all other stakeholders and other half of the airline caught work out how aviation is going to 48%, is owned by delta, the american get out of this together, don't leave it up to individual airlines airline. —— the other 49%. the to make their own decisions, there government are aware that must be a cohesive plan. post—financial crisis and the bank the taxpayer who will already face a bailouts, they cannot plough loads huge burden from the pandemic, why of money into private companies that should they pick up businesses, half are foreign owned and owned by billionaires, the government has got owned by a billionaire, the other to do due diligence and make any half owned by an american airline. possible deal, any emergency loans,

it's quite easy to ring fence and they will be loans, but they supports a none can go towards any have to make sure it is politically directors thought that goes for any company getting help. it should be sellable to us, the taxpayers, too. about protecting jobs. the thing with virgin as there has been lots scotland's first minister nicola of focus on one shareholder and his sturgeon says that it is highly unlikely the scottish government will relax lockdown caribbean island, but what i'm restrictions this week, but she has outlined more details on what measures they will take focused on is 9000 ukjobs. that's what we should be trying to savour. when it is safe to do so. she was speaking at the scottish government's daily briefing you wrote to the chancellor this afternoon. we are considering firstly yesterday, i think, if and how we could you wrote to the chancellor yesterday, ithink, he you wrote to the chancellor yesterday, i think, he want have pretend to read this letter the safely change our advice announcement. on spending time outdoors, to allow —— you won't have had time to read exercise outside to happen more than this letter. i've been saying for something in once a day, so long as we continue the uk has to get a grip, aviation to stay apart from people outside our own households. is heading towards a death spiral, a second, we are also downward trend across the whole considering if a slight relaxation sector which will affect airports, in the rules to allow meeting up supply change, all throughout the with a small, defined country. government said it would group of people from other households in a sort of bubble might step in and i challenge the be possible, even if initially chancellor and said you promised on that was only possible out of doors and not indoors. the 17th of march you with the help 0ur scotland correspondent aviation what you have not yet done

so, when are you going to do so? lorna gordon is in glasgow. the assessment of nicola sturgeon in difficulty is many people will say this is the moment everybody needs scotla nd the assessment of nicola sturgeon in scotland is perhaps a bit further to ta ke this is the moment everybody needs behind the rest of the uk in terms to take stock about how they holiday, how many times they use of where it is with the pandemic? aeroplanes, the difficulty is this real level of detail in both the is the moment where your industry briefing today and the document perhaps is changing forever. released at the same time, the i think that is the critical point. framework for decision—making released by the scottish government. at the moment everybody is taking it states they estimate there are stock of their future travel to whether leisure or business, at the currently around 26,000 infectious people in scotland and that is too moment nobody knows what the future shape of aviation will be, nobody many to consider the virus under knows which countries will open up control. it also stays while the their airport stock which routes we will be able to fly again, surely modelling is uncertain, there is this is the wrong time to be taking some evidence the r number, is immediate decisions, and the right higher in scotland than elsewhere in thing to be taking a cool—headed the uk. not certain why that is but approach, calm down, don't lose all some suggestions it might be because of these jobs now, approach, calm down, don't lose all scotla nd some suggestions it might be because scotland is on a slight lag compared of thesejobs now, take approach, calm down, don't lose all of these jobs now, take stock and government should be helping, it to some other areas in the uk, the should be saying that. i think

virus hit harder here later. nicola government's message to all businesses was protectjobs and get sturgeon warning if schools reopen through this together, not lay off your staff at the drop of a hat. fully at this point, it would likely the wrong approach. so your bea assessment for the airlines is, what fully at this point, it would likely be a new spike of infections which could overwhelm the nhs within two can hold your patience, but the months. that is why she is saying in money has run out? the money has not run out. i checked her opinion, it is highly unlikely with every airline how much money the lockdown will be eased when the they've got to keep going, british form decision is taken on thursday and the measures was the place for airways, its owner said in the same announcement as saying are a the next three months. hints as to how the lockdown might subsidiary is going to lose 12,000 jobs, it also said we've got 9.5 be eased, including best bubble of extending the amount of people you billion euros in cash and near cash can be in contact with. nicola sturgeon has said she wants equivalents and they have been a lwa ys equivalents and they have been always been saying they've got to have a grown—up conversation enough cash to survive so that is about what the new normal might look not the issue, that's exactly why i like going forward, she detailed more of that today, they talked say there should not be knee jerk, about our bubble where you might see short—term reactions and people should be saying, how do we get out family orfriends, about our bubble where you might see family or friends, when these of this properly, notjust leaving measures arejudged that family or friends, when these measures are judged that it is safe to ease their mouths at all. there it individual airlines, that's not the right way to do it. was also some talk about resuming what kind of the unions do in this position?

elective surgery —— when it is safe to ease them a little. they could —— whatcan the union do? position? -- whatcan the union do? we can argue, make representations to the restart work in a retail or airlines, government, there are a construction and manufacturing, where a safe working might be legal routes we can take, there possible. there was also a level of might even be other things. how would our legal route help you, detail in schooling that was really given a very few planes are flying, interesting. the modelling that they the companies themselves are not in a position to fight, are they? are looking at suggest when eventually schools return, one option might be for children in the they are, actually. they are all capable of surviving this crisis last year of primary school or those without taking these immediate facing exams, to return first. 0ne decisions because what they are doing is saying in the very long of them might be for children to attend part—time in blocks of a few term we estimate the market for a days at a time to allow for deep patient will take a downturn. they are right about that but they don't cleaning of schools in between. also know by how much —— the market for interestingly the document stated the scottish government documents state that there might also be the aviation. they do not know how it will be reopening around the world, potential for geographical easing of lockdown measures, either across the the flight many different routes. my message to them and the government uk or within scotland itself. that is let's wait to take those of course all for the future. as you decisions. we have enough funding to keep the industry stable for the said, scotland's first minister

next few months, let's see what the saying it's highly likely to be lockdown measures will stay in place lie of the land is and then take and for the next three weeks. thosejudgments lie of the land is and then take those judgments and then collectively work out what is in the best interests of the uk economy, a new nhs smartphone app not individual airlines and their is being made available shareholders. soa on the isle of wight today, shareholders. so a pilot watching you right now who just heard they have possibly in a key trial that will help shape lost theirjob, what is your message the government's strategy for easing the lockdown. council and health care workers to them? will be the first to try it, with the rest of the island able 426 pilotjobs at virgin are under to download it from thursday. there are some concerns threat, and it is terrible news for over privacy, but if the trial is successful, them. i said to the company today, it could be rolled out nationally within weeks. they briefed me before they duncan kennedy reports announced publicly and i said to from the isle of wight. them, you can expect i will be home to 140,000 people, the isle of wight is now the setting for one of fighting for every single job and every single agreement you want to the biggest uk technological experiments in recent years. a change as well. we will be putting the virgin to the test very hard community nurse is one of thousands before we step towards anyjob of nhs staff to be given at the new losses. very good of you to join us, thank smartphone app first. i think it is a really good idea to you. be able to track and trace exactly scotland's first minister nicola sturgeon says that it is highly what's going on with covid—19. being unlikely the scottish government a community nurse it is really important so we know exactly where will relax lockdown

the movements are. i think there is lots of practical issues that might restrictions this week, but she has outlined more details not have been fully thought through on what measures they will take but until the app is tested we will when it is safe to do so. she was speaking at the scottish government's daily briefing not know those in detail. this afternoon. we are considering firstly the nhs app let you know... if and how we could safely change our advice on spending time the nhs app let you know... the government released this video today to explain how the new app outdoors, to allow exercise outside to happen more than once a day, works, it logs people close to each so long as we continue to stay apart other and if someone develops from people outside coronavirus symptoms the app can our own households. alert those people to self—isolate. second, we are also this is a real opportunity for the considering if a slight relaxation in the rules to allow meeting up island to lead in the development of with a small, defined group of people from other households this app and to follow on from that, in a sort of bubble might be the nation will come behind us and possible, even if initially that was only possible out the nation will come behind us and of doors and not indoors. the whole country can use it. i think it's a good extra tool. nhs a new nhs smartphone app staff are receiving the app today is being made available to residents which will give them a link to of the isle of wight today in a key download the app via an e—mail. trial that will help shape the government's strategy for easing the lockdown. around 3000 nhs staff will be council and health care workers offered the app over the next 48 will be the first to try it, hours and then the rest of the with the rest of the island able to download it from thursday. population here on thursday, that's there are concerns over privacy, but if the trial is successful, about 80,000 households, and what the government wants is for about at it could be rolled out nationally within weeks. duncan kennedy reports

least half of those to take up the from the isle of wight. for us, start using it, to give this home to 140,000 people, experiment credibility. local people the isle of wight is now the setting here seemed mostly willing to for one of the biggest uk download and use the new app. technological experiments in recent years. it would be so nice to have a little this community nurse is one of thousands of nhs staff to be bit of security, to know that we are given the new smartphone app first. i think it is a really good not carrying the virus. there are some including government idea to be able to track and trace exactly what's going on with covid—19. being a community nurse, advisers got that were worried about it is really important so we know exactly where the movements are. privacy issues raised by using the i think there is lots of practical new for us. i'm slightly concerned there has not issues that might not have been been enough consultation with the public, and there is a lot of fully thought through, but until the app is tested concern being raised by the public we will not know those in detail. about the governance of it, the security and privacy of it, the private company that is owning its, the government released this video today to explain and so whether or not the public will take it up in the numbers that how the new app works, are needed is a question. it logs people close to each other if the isle of wight trials go well, and if someone develops coronavirus symptoms the app can alert those the app will be rolled out across people to self—isolate. the app will be rolled out across the uk, but it will be up to this is a real opportunity

individual nations to decide how to for the island to lead implement the scheme. in the development of this app and to follow on from that, the nation will come behind us and the whole country can use it. all today we're looking at different ways the coronavirus pandemic i think it's a good extra tool. is affecting the education system. a levels have been cancelled this summer year meaning students will get new calculated grades, nhs staff are receiving the app today which will give them a link and as students are forced to study online, many are concerned that to download the app via an e—mail. disadvantaged pupils will lose out around 3000 nhs staff will be when they apply for offered the app over the next 48 university places. joining me now is the chief hours and then the rest of the population here on thursday — executive of the educational charity, the sutton that's about 80,000 households — trust, james turner. and what the government wants good afternoon, james. i want to go is for about at least half of those to take up the app, start using it, on to the education aspect in a to give this experiment credibility. moment, but there is a digital issue here, there are many young people local people here seemed who are immediately disadvantaged mostly willing to download because they don't have access to and use the new app. it would be so nice to have a little the equipment is necessary. that's right. a lot of young people bit of security, to know we've surveyed from poorer backgrounds don't necessarily have that we are not carrying the virus. access to a laptop or tablet, or there are some, including inadequate access to broadband. 0ne government advisers, of the biggest issues are young people don't have a place to work, who are worried about privacy issues

raised by using the new app. quiet space to work without interruption, that can be a big i'm slightly concerned issueif interruption, that can be a big issue if you are trying to learn at there has not been enough consultation with the public, home from any level. and there is a lot of concern 0n the wider issue, there is a being raised by the public difference between the state and about the governance of it, independent sector in terms of access to that sort of information. the security and privacy of it, when we look at the provision the private company that is owning offered by the state and independent it, and so whether or not the public schools there was that there is a big gap in terms of what independent will take it up in the numbers that schools were offering compared to are needed is a question. some state schools, particularly the if the isle of wight trials go well, poorer schools. it really comes down the app will be rolled out to resources. independent schools across the uk, but it will be up seem to be more geared up to to individual nations to decide how offering online tuition rate from to implement the scheme. the start of the lockdown, and also let's talk more about this now i think the smaller teacher— student ratios in those schools also meant with areeq chowdhury, the director of the think tank, they have been able to offer more webroots democracy, which focuses on technology and its impact tailored online support and it has not just been tailored online support and it has on political participation. notjust been a resource, it has been teacher interaction, they get feedback on work. our worry is this 0n on that basis, what percentage of a period of lockdown will serve to the population need to use this app widen the gap between the best offer for it to be of any use at all? stu d e nts widen the gap between the best offer students and the poorest. building the app, in many respects, when the history of this pandemic is

is the easy part, the difficult part written, what will it say about will be making sure enough people download it and that those people youngsters and their social make up use the app consistently and and how somewhat disadvantaged in a way that they are long—term accurately there are a number of education was damaged to what figures, one study suggests 80% of degree? iam education was damaged to what degree? i am trying just to get a sense of just how degree? i am trying just to get a sense ofjust how difficult this people, smartphone users, would need will make the rest of their lives. to download the app for it to be without a doubt it will wash through effective at combating coronavirus for yea rs without a doubt it will wash through for years to come, we already know and for contacts, the percentage of poorer students are behind their peers even before the pandemic people who have whatsapp is 50%, the started. we also know school challenge is absolutely immense. —— benefits those from the poorest for context. backgrounds particularly. even over in terms of people's attitude to the summer holidays disadvantaged this, is there a false sense of stu d e nts the summer holidays disadvantaged students are behind a day when they come back after six or seven weeks security if you have a smartphone away they can be even further with the app on it? there are a number of issues, the behind. the big risk is this period of school closures and period away keyissueis there are a number of issues, the key issue is threefold, firstly, from school will particularly harm some coronavirus carriers are poorer students and could actually reverse some of the progress that asymptomatic, which means people who use the app we think they have not has been made in reducing that gap come into contact with someone with over the past ten years or so. we the virus when in fact they have. need to do what we can both to help

stu d e nts need to do what we can both to help students now but also to think about secondly, around the fact not how we can help them catch up when eve ryo ne secondly, around the fact not everyone has a smartphone, official figures show one in four people schools reopen, without that's before some warrior or in september. for some, they want people to catch during 1855 —— which rises to more up for some, they want people to catch up because particularly if they are planning to go to university. —— either now or in september, when over the age of 65. thirdly, over schools reopen. privacy, the government are taking pupils we talk to from poorer this quite seriously, however in backgrounds and generally when you serve a sixth form students, they this quite seriously, however in this post edward snowden world, a worry about how the new a—level government issuing an app which system, so there will not be any essentially tracks an individual‘s movements, is going to face exams, the warrior how that will resistance. this will be a key impact on their grades and if they will get the grades the are challenge for the government in terms of encouraging take up because if people do not trust it it will expecting. —— how that will impact not demote it. is it tracking their movements per on their grades. in all of this uncertainty, those from poorer se “— is it tracking their movements per se —— they will not download it. backgrounds, those who are unsure it is tracking the movements of the anyway, who are the ones most likely, i think i want to suffer and phone, your name is not given. potentially make different choices this is key, will actually track the

asa potentially make different choices as a result. movements? in theory it could track 0bviously frustrating for students and families but what sort of the social circles of individuals so feedback do you get from teachers? you may get additional knowledge on a lot of teachers are doing her someone is interacting with but everything they possibly can in a at this stage, and the government very difficult circumstances to cater for their students as best as has set this out in detail, the data will be anonymized. there is a possible. when the pandemic started and locked and started lots of debate on the technical world around teachers were calling for basics to a and decentralisation of data. in address the shortages in technology, other countries where they are to get resources to students and looking at similar apps, a number make sure the most vulnerable stu d e nts make sure the most vulnerable students were protected and getting have adopted a decentralised free school meals. but i also think approach, which means data which some of the new initiatives, some of other devices you've come into contact with on your device, and a the work of the bbc have been doing, there is now much bigger bank of quality under resources teachers can centralised approach, which is the use and that is to be welcomed. government's approach in the uk, this data is stored centrally, which teachers are also nervous about how leads to fears around surveillance schools can reopen in our safe way and how they can cater particularly and privacy. for the most as advanced as students, to make sure as far as if you are living in the isle of possible they catch up when they wight, would you take it up? that's a good question. i think i return to school —— particularly for the most disadvantaged pupils. would. this challenge we are facing

and for those disadvantaged pupils is huge but i would still press the got maybe not many rooms at homes, siblings running around, there is a government on these key questions of real issue and having the time to effectiveness, privacy, take—up and devote to education. absolutely. as well as the material it is important we remember an app considerations around space and will not solve coronavirus, we are right equipment and enter an access, we know poorer parents, perhaps still going to need measures like because of their own educational ppe, mass testing, all of those experience on levels of education, they feel less confident things the most important part of the effort against the virus. nevertheless, on the face of it, it home—schooling, they are also more is potentially an exciting thing and likely to be injobs home—schooling, they are also more likely to be in jobs where they are out of the house more. it's a real if it brings an early release of lockdown, it has to be positive, challenge forfamilies doesn't it? out of the house more. it's a real challenge for families in those circumstances to keep up with school there is a strong argument for work and for parents to devote time trying something and feeling rather to supporting the children as much than not trying at all but the issue as they want to because all parents wa nt to as they want to because all parents want to do the best for the children here is if you do fail, you do give what they do not always have time and resources to do so. an impression of false confidence to ican imagine and resources to do so. i can imagine anyone watching at individuals caught that they are able to move around freely because home facing these issues will say they know the problems but what are they have not come into contact with coronavirus caught you could just they know the problems but what are the solutions? we need to look at what we can do

lead to another outbreak. it's immediately while schools are closed important not to rely solely on the and also what to do when they open. app. questions of take—up and access 0nline learning can be as successful still need to be answered. the 60% as face—to—face teaching as long as it is high quality so there is an of people over 65 who don't have a issue of access to technology for smartphone, what are they going to those without it. the government's do, do they stay at home what do the announcement of laptops for year ten rest going out and contracting the stu d e nts announcement of laptops for year ten students is welcome but it is a virus? wider problem than that. we would i will pick up on that, because you like to see much more use of online are talking about the over 65, many tuition taking place, can it reach are talking about the over 65, many are staying at home anyway so it's disadvantaged students? there is a not an issue. whole tutoring industry out there possibly. not everyone will be wanting to stay at home and people that could help with this. and when over 65 would like lockdown to be stu d e nts that could help with this. and when students come back, as there are some things we could do over the entered also, people would like to summer to make sure they are not as see the family who are elderly and far behind when they come back? is there a role for online or perhaps need care. also, those are face—to—face tuition particularly just the biggest numbers, there are for the most disadvantaged students who will need the most support. an groups across the age groups who may academic support as well, but we also need to look at mental health struggle to have access to and well—being support because they smartphones and also its important will have had a difficult time, as to remember even those who have a will have had a difficult time, as will the rest of the country. smartphone, they may not have the thank you very much for your time

this afternoon. prior digital literacy to be able to use these apps consistently and accurately. there are a lot of important questions to answer across throughout the day here on bbc news we've been looking at various ways in which the coronavirus epidemic has impacted schooling all the groups. and education, both in the uk areeq chowdhury got a very good to and around the world. talk to you this afternoon. we'll be trying to answer some of your questions on the issue at 2.30 — you can send us your thoughts, questions and videos on twitter with the hashtag — bbcyourquestions. and later this hour, our technology correspondent rory cellan—jones and the isle of wight isolation is having a major impact mp, bob seely, will be answering your questions on the new coronavirus track on patients who suffer & trace app. feel free to send them to us from severe mental health problems — by emailing yourquestions@bbc.co.uk that's the warning from or tweeting them to the hashtag a psychiatrist at one of the uks bbc your questions. leading mental health trusts. that's coming up at he says that the impact on patients who suffer from psychosis — that's 3:30 here on bbc news. when people lose contact with reality and might hear voices — the coronavirus lockdown has been profound. is tough enough for everyone sima kotecha has been given but for children who rely on school exclusive access to a psychosis for much more than learning, experts recovery tea m. got to try and keep claim it's becoming damaging. the social distance. children with additional support a consultation, coronavirus style. you are saying it's a struggle? needs are without their the doctor meets his patient on a walk, an effective way of working during lockdown. vital routines and, according to charities, some families are being pushed into crisis. john 0wen reports. for weeks now, schools that

the voice i'm experiencing now are usually a hive of activity have will never allow somebody like you to suffer what i live. looked more like this. and for most schoolchildren, david suffers with psychosis. the new normal looks like this. for years he's heard voices but since being in isolation with the exception of the children of critical workers and some vulnerable children, a new voice has emerged, most young people are attempting known as a command hallucination. to continue their education at home, how has self isolation with schools relying heavily on online resources. been for you, david? that's when command came. when the voices came? yeah, yeah. but now school leaders and charities have warned of a growing gulf the voice, yes, but command between disadvantaged pupils is something new. and their more affluent the doctor is going to work counterparts, and of the long—term consequences that could follow through with me for me to understand for those young people why command with voice who are currently being denied an education. is only negative... we face a huge potential wave you've put it very clearly of educational poverty. that the command voice has come back in since the crisis. there are some families that have yeah. had to stop paying for their monthly so psychosis is a mental disorder, broadband because they haven't got it's a health condition, it's a mental health condition, the money to be able to do it. i think there could possibly be but the crucial thing is it's an eminently treatable... a lost generation of young people. psychiatrist steve church walks around the community carlton bolling academy to check on his patients. is a comprehensive school in one of the most deprived areas of bradford, with 1500 students, most of whom are not

he says being alone can currently attending school. make psychosis worse. the whole treatment at the present time, that we are about is trying to help we have got only about 35% people not self—isolate, engagement in the online learning. trying to help people to re—engage with society. part of the problem is that some of our young people do not have the self—isolation is one of the red and their families flag hallmarks of somebody becoming do not have access to unwell in the first place, the internet or to laptops. where they just take themselves so it means that all our into a psychosis—induced lockdown. interactive learning online, they cannot access so they have i think she's been quite got paper—based learning. disinhibited, not really acknowledging covid guidelines... jane explained that whilst many students have no access to the internet at all, at st giles clinic in south london, some, like this year ten student, simply have very limited access. the central psychosis recovery team me and my brother discuss which patients need urgent sectioning. we're just not seeing her, not physically seeing her. both share a laptop. can't get access to the property. and also i've got an auntie at home you know, when she becomes who is also studying completely unwell she stops eating at this moment in time and drinking properly. even though the clinic is very much so between the three of us, there is one laptop open, it is eerily quiet. that we have to share. most patients are at home self research suggests thatjust a third isolating and staff say that they are having to go pupils overall are taking part in online lessons each day, to their homes instead but those from private schools to provide treatment there. are twice as likely to so as their counterparts anthony's being treated by the team at state schools. and has regular home visits. it's a lot more slower, the gap between advantaged and disadvantaged in our education a lot more peaceful, system is already significant.

do you know what i mean? it's not so... like a rat race, as it were. we know that what is now happening is that gap is getting wider, so you enjoy being on your own? even despite the best efforts i do. of schools, the bbc i'm quite a solitary person, and other people providing i wouldn't mind being reclusive. all kinds of online resources. idon‘t mind. the government has pledged £100 million to boost remote learning and has committed to provide laptops to vulnerable young people 3 to 4% of the uk's population and disadvantaged pupils in year suffers with psychosis. ten, although some say more urgent action is needed. the majority get treated and are able to live a normal life. the government need a national a lot of the time, these could be strategy to look at imaginative solutions to make sure that these left—behind, very unpleasant experiences and, vulnerable children, pupils and students are being looked you know, having a support network really helps them, and at this after and educated. point, when that's not there, you know, they are having to deal but with no clear end to the lockdown in sight, with far more than the average fears of irreparable damage to young individual would be people's educational managing at the moment. prospects continue. for people with severe john 0wen, bbc news. mental health problems, the path ahead is a lonely one. sima kotecha, bbc we can talk now to clare allum, news, south london. who's mother to hugh, a 20—year—old deaf student, two of the government's most at the deaf academy. senior scientists have acknowledged shortcomings with the uk's coronavirus testing regime. giving evidence to the commons thank you forjoining us. how is he health select committee, coping at the moment? the deputy chief medical officer he is coping very well, i have to for england, jenny harries, told mps things would have been

"done differently" if more tests had say, because it can then in place a been available in the early stages of the outbreak. and the chief scientific adviser, whole load of learning and community sir patrick vallance, said it would have been better activities to make sure he is if capacity had been entertained and educated. 0ver increased more quickly. activities to make sure he is entertained and educated. over the easter holidays, i was extremely let's speak to the chair of the health select committee, worried about him. he was a very the conservative mp — and former health secretary — jeremy hunt. miserable for almost depressed, i would say, at the loss of the i think we've got a better line. forthcoming term. having that in perfect line. thanks for being place, that structure has been a big patient. i want to go back to that first place, that structure has been a big place since time started. he differentiated between education question, which was when sir patrick valla nce question, which was when sir patrick vallance says there are all sorts of and entertainment and for both it is and entertainment and for both it is a matter of routine, having reasons why recommendations for early testing were not picked up, something to do at a given time. what possible reason could there be because everybody at the time and absolutely. the academy has done an said we must test? amazing job, not only looked at the i was one of the voices who also wa nted i was one of the voices who also wanted us to do it much more testing learning aspect of education and put andi wanted us to do it much more testing and i don't know, i was not on the things in place to allow him to inside but i think what we can do is study, obviously using things like say in that situation, no one had a zoum and teams and a whole range of crystal ball, no one knew... available technology, that has allowed him to have a routine but

the world health organization, i remember them saying three words, they are also well aware children test, test and test, it wasn't a and young adults like you are very crystal ball but that was in the isolated and that does cause very early stages. that was one of the questions i additional problems for families —— asked doctor harris this morning, which prompted the answer you just young adult like hugh. they have put talked about. my point i was going a framework around communities. for to make then became clear south korea, no more than nine deaths on us has his tutor group in the mornings and at lunchtime he will any one day, german it a bigger not miss the common room time where population than us but one third of all the children and young people the deaths, were doing something get together online and they can see each other and really interact. different and to matt hancock's that's been a fantastic help. credit, when he recovered from that's been a fantastic help. that must make a huge difference, illness, announced a 100,000 a day new visual side, the ability to sign testing target which many thought he would not get and he has more or to one another. absolutely. for children like hugh less got it, it doesn't matter if who are deaf and have additional it's 100 less got it, it doesn't matter if it's100 or 90 or 80, the fact is we needs, having that community and have broadly testing capacity they ability to communicate both with have broadly testing capacity they have in germany and that makes it their peers and their care workers, possible to do what we are now key workers who normally works with, doing, which is the south korean strategy. is important, otherwise he really is the trouble is we have sacked daly very isolated, even with us around. through these briefings and again

and again sir patrick vallance and he mentioned an element of jenny harries has been asked about testing and this is the first time depression creeping in, the one they said we could have been done or question he, like so many want to know, is when will it end and it thing to being different. must be difficult not to have an yes, i understand that, and obviously part of myjob on the a nswer to must be difficult not to have an answer to that. it is absolutely painful, notjust health select committee is to point for him, for my daughter who is to global best practice, but we also studying her finals, have to recognise hindsight is a for him, for my daughter who is studying herfinals, too, but it's really difficult to say to him we wonderful thing in crises and no one don't know. we have to break it to knows 100% what is going to be the slowly, initially be said we think best thing to do and i thought the the virus will finish in may, most encouraging thing about this knowing that probably was not going morning's session was when the whole to happen but we have keep managing world is worrying about a second his expectations and we have to keep wave, sir patrick vallance was a his expectations and we have to keep his hopes up because he is very, very clear, he thought we could very keen to get back to the academy avoid a second wave in this country and all of the community and if we do test, track and trace and learning it offers for him. there is of course no sport on tv observe the social distancing. for people who are desperate to get out and fora there is of course no sport on tv and for a young man that is of the stock tone, i thought that important. absolutely. he is a completely was pretty encouraging. less encouraging —— get out of this passionate rugby supporter, and that is just passionate rugby supporter, and that isjust gone. he passionate rugby supporter, and that is just gone. he was looking forward lockdown. less encouraging art the new to all sorts of things, the olympics figures, hospitalfigures are

are obviously coming up, so much was decreasing but care home figures are increasing and early on people were in his mind that he was looking asking about care homes and the eyes forward to and so we are just waiting for it to restart. i don't seem to be off the ball on that. think we are different from other what we heard this morning, i was pa rents, think we are different from other parents, it's just that communicating that is a little bit harder. to a child or young person with special needs. asking about the r number, how many is there any positives in this, she people we are infecting when we get is having to organise his life dividers and that must be below one and what sir patrick vallance said perhaps anyway he did before? as they are basically three r rates, there are always positives, i've been quite excited to see him, i've the community rates, the hospital sat next to him doing my work, we rate, which is coming down, but he set next each other sometimes, he does his work and i do mine, and was clearly worried about the r thatis does his work and i do mine, and that is lovely, and he has had to rates in care homes and his what it learn to organise himself in the what you could squash the virus in same way you do when you get into an the community and faint it comes back into the community from care office environment, when his lessons are starting and how does he access homes. —— and find it comes back them and how does he organise himself to be able to do that. into the community. one of the big things we will get from the epidemic that's really positive. then i also think we've done a lot of cooking, is thinking about care homes right here showing a huge amount of from the start. independence and done a lot more

cooking at many 20—year—olds, i think. he makes cakes, he is making i know hindsight is a wonderful thing and a blame game needs to his sister's birthday cake today. i wait, what people have been dying in also look forward to continuing the ca re wait, what people have been dying in care homes and the people who run partnership with the academy because them have been saying we have a we already had great contact but problem, we have no ppe, and there working virtually like this who opens up other opportunities for us, are other issues that people are and in the as well. ignoring, you can't argue we did not and presumably for him, it must know when people were saying there change his view of his deafness. was a problem. we will obviously have a full i think so. the academy did that examination of all the lessons to be anyway. he came out of his first learned when we are through the year are very proud young man, very crisis, but on ppe, one of the proud deaf young man but thisjust issues are care homes are found when puts a framework around him that he the nhs suddenly increased its will be able to continue as an demand for ppe, because they can buy adult. as he obviously has to move centrally and in vast quantities, away from college and goes into there was just none left for care aduu away from college and goes into adult life, he will now know how to homes, particularly none of the really create those communities higher level stuff, and they have to around him and that will help him, i do nursing duties in care homes what have no doubt. we spent all this time talking about medics call aerosol generating procedures, procedures were someone hugh, how are you coping? could end up spitting on you by iam like hugh, how are you coping? accident or something like that if i am like every other parent with

you are turning them over or children and young people at home, attaching a tube or something like it isa children and young people at home, it is a mixture of absolute pleasure and delight in moments of that, i'm sure that will be one of the big lessons that's learned, make frustration and, you know, the sure there is a proper supply chain biggest thing is you wish you could for ppe for the social care sector. fix it for them and get them back to their normal lives and that is hard if there was a clock you could buy at times and particular hard to to turn came back we all would get one, i suspect, explain to hugh. but i don't think to turn came back we all would get one, isuspect, but to turn came back we all would get one, i suspect, but if you had one, my situation is so very different when you were health secretary, was at their meetings where the from other parents, in that i speak preparation for a pandemic, and all to lots of people and it is hard governments around the world had to work. hard work but obviously great prepare, wasn't that adequate? fun at the same time. here is the great irony, simon, really good to talk to you. clare which is we are and have been known allum, thanks for your time this to be one of the best prepared afternoon. now it's time for a look countries in the world but we had a at the weather with ben rich. temperatures are set to head upwards big pandemic flu exercise in 2016 over the next few days and then down which i was responsible for and we again as we go through the weekend. in the shorter term where we have had rain today across the south—west are ranked at the second best of england and far south of wales, prepared country in the world. but i that rain will continue to fizzle think we can see now that our focus through this evening and night. we will keep quite a lot of cloud here. also some cloud on some on those preparations was on of the coasts in yorkshire pandemic flu, and not on a and lincolnshire but where we keep clear skies it will be quite a cold night.

many spots down towards freezing. respiratory virus so i am sure one of the lessons we will learn is we some spots in scotland could get down just below. have to be broader in the range of into tomorrow a few showers in parts of cornwall and maybe pembrokeshire, viruses and pandemics we are a lot of cloud in the northern isles preparing for. but otherwise largely fine and dry. some spells of sunshine. ijust want i just want to continue if ijust want to continue if i may, i can see you “— a bit of patchy cloud ijust want to continue if i may, i can see you —— can hear you. when here and there and a slightly warmer feel to the weather. you hear sir patrick barnes and your temperatures around 15 for aberdeen and newcastle, 19 in cardiff. committee was talking to him the temperatures continue to climb earlier, were you surprised, were into thursday and friday. you a bit frustrated that you have parts of the south could get to 25. got the cheap scientific adviser for the weekend we develop a northerly wind which will turn saying these sort things of the dramatically colder. stage of the pandemic?” there could even be saying these sort things of the stage of the pandemic? i think sir patrick vallance has a very some wintry showers. understated and very open approach, andi understated and very open approach, and i think she tries to present the situation as he sees it and i think hello, this is bbc it is unreasonable to expect to get news with simon mccoy. the headlines... absolutely everything right from the virgin atlantic announces 3000 get go but the one thing that would job cuts and the end of services at gatwick airport, help and we have a government that because of the impact co nsta ntly help and we have a government that of coronavirus. constantly says they are following a more than 30,000 people in the uk science and they are being guided by have now died in the pandemic — the science, patrick is in charge of the number of deaths in care homes this vital committee called sage continues to rise.

criticism of the uk's initial coronavirus testing procedure — which gives the government scientific recommendations. it is from its own chief scientific very difficult to scrutinise a adviser. government that says it is following the science if we can see what those i think if we'd managed to ramp recommendations are, so i hope one testing capacity quicker it would of the things that emerges is that have been beneficial. for all sorts of reasons, the government will start to publish that didn't happen. the government will start to publish the advice that it gets from sage as it announces those decisions, so for a new nhs app to trace the spread example this weekend when we of coronavirus is trialed which, announce what is happening as we if successful, could be move out of the lockdown, i think it expanded in weeks. will be helpful to see the and an urgent review is launched scientific advice. the reason is after pictures emerge of this aer lingus flight to london with no because often there aren't certainties, often the science is apparent social distancing. saying there is a chance of this but a chance of that. and i think the public need to understand that time for the sport. sarah is there sometimes there is a lack of certainty in science and that is why for us. sometimes we change course when more evidence comes to light. you get the man in charge of round that with transparency, don't the english football league says things could get very messy you, and it just round that with transparency, don't if promotion to and relegation you, and itjust hasn't been any.|j from the premier league doesn't you, and itjust hasn't been any.” think there has been some but i go ahead this season. norwich, aston villa and bournemouth would like to see more particularly are in the bottom three as it when the government is saying that stands, and there have been reports it is going to be guided by the that some clubs in the top flight science. if we can see what those want to play the end of the season

scientific recommendations are, it's without the threat of relegation very ha rd scientific recommendations are, it's very hard for us to judge the extent hanging over them. rick parry has cautioned against that, saying that some to which that is happening.” lawyers will get very wealthy. he also says his clubs face a huge very hard for us to judge the extent to which that is happening. i have never sat on one of these meetings, you have stop when a scientist says financial black hole. our aim is to emerge stronger, we should be doing this and that, leaner, more efficient, where does the politics kitchen? what of the other things answer to have a proper patrick vallance were being outed, research post—covid. we are heading for a financial hole there are other reasons why it wasn't taken up, what sort of at the moment of £200 million by the end of september, reasons are discussed may be outside of the earshot of the scientists?” a cash hole that we will need to fill. think there is a very important role we need a rescue package, for the politicians, just like the but at the same time we need to address the longer term, scientists. the politicians are otherwise we'll be back elected so they have to make the ultimate decision in a democracy, into problems in two or three years, thatis ultimate decision in a democracy, that is unimportant and obvious so we can'tjust go from one bailout point. but i think in my experience to another bailout, we have to look at the structure in those meetings, but politicians and assess it root and branch. are in those meetings, but politicians a re often in those meetings, but politicians are often doing is, because they are the chief executive of the england talking to their constituents, they talking to their constituents, they talk about what would be acceptable and wales cricket board has also to the public, but the public would judge would be fair, and so there told the same commons meeting that coronavirus could cost the sport up to £380 million. was a politicaljudgments. you really have to bring those together tom harrison says the pandemic

with the scientific assessments if is the "most significant financial you're going to get a good decision. challenge" that his organisation i want to end in something positive. has ever faced. we got this new app on the isle of and the rugby football union have warned that they will lose wight kicking in this week. just how around £107 million much hope do you have of that?” if england's autumn internationals have a lot of hope because if you are cancelled — while an £85 million black hole would still be created look at, we talked about maria, but if the games against new zealand, if you look at singapore, taiwan, argentina, tonga and australia took place without fans at twickenham. hong kong, where they have been brilliant is the use of technology gordon taylor — who's and it is incredibly smart what they head of the professional footballers association — do and if we can combine really has raised the prospect of playing smart technology with contact less than 45 minutes a half if football does return. tracing on the film, we have got the talks about a restart chance of avoiding this blunt to the premier league continue and they're aiming at 8june instrument of a lockdown that we as a possible return date. have at the moment, and the really gordon taylor says players continue to be concerned about safety, impressive thing about those asian and the risk to their health democracies is they kept their could be reduced if they spent offices, shops, restaurants open less time on the pitch. with social distancing but they managed to keep much more of their we don't know the future. what we do know is what economies functioning. so i think propositions have been put, this is very exciting actually. and what ideas have been put. i ask you very quickly, one thing on the possibility of having more substitutes, games possibly not

testing, just looking on twitter, being the full 45 minutes each way. social media, a lot of gps, members there are talks of neutral stadiums. of the nhs, somewhat surprised that there are lots of things members of the army are taking being put forward. at this moment, ijust samples and car parks and the nhs on want to try and stay calm, the front line is not involved in wait and see what the proposals are and then have the courtesy the front line is not involved in the bit of testing which they say they are much better at in the first to let the managers and coaches place, why isn't the happening?” and players also assimilate don't know the details of that, i do all those and come think that it's right that we ask to a considered view. for the help of colleagues in the while horse racing is due to return in france from monday, army ina for the help of colleagues in the army in a national emergency like there's no guarantee that cycling's biggest event of the year — this and sometimes you have to wrap things up very quickly and i suspect the tour de france — or the french open tennis will go that matt hancock would say he ahead this year. wouldn't have been able to ramp up the tour was due to start at the end the testing as quickly as he did if ofjune but has already been he didn't have a lot of additional delayed until 29 august, manpower given of course that the starting in nice. nhs front line workers are meanwhile the journal du italia incredibly busy anyway. jeremy hunt, meanwhile thejournal du italia and the vuelta espana will overlap in thank you for persevering, good to 0ctober. talk to you in the end. psyche. however all sport with fans is banned in the country sport now, and for a full round—up until the end of august. from the bbc sport centre, roxana maracineau said she's unsure here's sarah mulkerins. if it will take place and added

the french open grand slam may need to take place behind closed doors at roland garros after being the man in charge of the english football league says delayed until 20 september. things could get very messy if promotion to and relegation well, cricket isn't from the premier league doesn't as close to returning — go ahead this season. it's on shutdown in england norwich, aston villa and bournemouth until at least 1 july. are in the bottom three as it when it is back, it'll likely stands, and there have been reports take place without fans. that some clubs in the top flight however, england's ben stokes says that won't effect the players want to play the end of the season and that they're desperate without the threat of relegation for the sport to return. hanging over them. we are walking out to rick parry has cautioned represent our country, against that, saying that some we have the three lions lawyers will get very wealthy. he also says his clubs face a huge on our chest. financial black hole. whether that is in front of nobody or in front of a full crowd, our aim is to emerge stronger, i don't think it will take the competitive side away, it will be a completely leaner, more efficient, different scenario for us to get our head around that. we will do anything to get cricket back onto tvs and for the people to have a proper research post covid. we are heading for a financial hole to follow and watch. if that means we have to play at the moment of £200 million by the end of september, a cash hole that we will need to fill. in front of nobody, then so be it. we need a rescue package, but at the same time we need to address the longer term, otherwise we'll be back that is all this but for now. see into problems in two or three years, you again soon. so we can'tjust go from one bailout

to another bailout, we have to look at the structure and assess it root and branch. you've been sending in your questions about the new coronavirus the chief executive of the england contact—tracing app, and wales cricket board has also currently being trialled told the same commons meeting that on the isle of wight. coronavirus could cost plenty to get though, and to answer them i'm joined the sport up to £380 million. by our technology correspondent, tom harrison says the pandemic rory cellan—jones and is the "most significant financial the conservative mp for the isle challenge" that his organisation has ever faced. of wight, bob seely. and the rugby football union have warned that they will lose around £107 million rory, i would go back to you because if england's autumn internationals i'm guessing that means you have the are cancelled — while an £85 million app on your phone? i've just been black hole would still be created if the games against new zealand, given access to it, downloaded it, incredibly simple. 0ne basic page. argentina, tonga and australia took place without fans at twickenham. with a question, how are you feeling gordon taylor — who's today? i feel unwell, i head of the professional with a question, how are you feeling today? ifeel unwell, i have i footballers association — temperature, what to do what's next, has raised the prospect of playing thenit less than 45 minutes a half if football does return. temperature, what to do what's next, then it takes you through a series talks about a restart of questions, it won't work for me because i'm not on the isle of to the premier league continue and they're aiming at 8june wight, the other alternative is if as a possible return date. you don't have symptoms don't do anything now would come back if you gordon taylor says players continue do. pretty simple. this to be concerned about safety, extraordinary test on the isle of

and the risk to their health could be reduced if they spent wight in the coming days to see how it works. this question from paul, less time on the pitch. we don't know the future. how close do you have to beat someone before the apple register a what we do know is what propositions have been put, proximity reading is the most common what ideas have been put. used bluetooth has a range of ten the possibility of having more metres? what they are doing is they substitutes, games possibly not are looking at all the contract being the full 45 minutes each way. there are talks of neutral stadiums. prices, an algorithm, a calculation that gives your risk score and there area number of there are lots of things that gives your risk score and there are a number of elements to that. how close you were, weather you work being put forward. at this moment, ijust per instance within two metres, want to try and stay calm, there is how long you were there and wait and see what the proposals are and then have the courtesy to let the managers and coaches then there is where that person was and players also assimilate all those and come in terms of the progress through symptoms, at what stage, how far to a considered view. while horse racing is due to return away they were from reporting in france from monday, symptoms. that will give you a, an there's no guarantee that cycling's biggest event of the year — the tour de france — or the french open tennis will go ahead this year. app calculation, it was a you are the tour was due to start at the end quite close but you are only there ofjune but has already been for a minute. you were reasonably delayed until 29 august, starting in nice. however all sport with fans close but he was standing talking to

is banned in the country until the end of august. each other for 20 minutes, close but he was standing talking to each otherfor 20 minutes, you do count. it is a complex balancing of roxana maracineau said she's unsure different factors. bob, good to see if it will take place and added the french open grand slam may need to take place behind closed you. can! different factors. bob, good to see doors at roland garos you. can i put this question to you from jeffrey blondel who says it is after being delayed until 20 very likely that following the trial september. on the isle of wight the uk government will direct as many of wight the uk government will direct well, cricket isn't as many ups as possible to download to the device is distressing app, as close to returning — it's on shutdown in england how confident are you that this is going to have an uptick up in the until at least 1 july. when it is back, it'll likely isle of wight? i'm very confident, take place without fans. we will be in our interests to do so however, england's ben stokes says and by helping ourselves we help our that won't effect the players and that they're desperate for the sport to return. nation. anything over 20% starts to we are walking out to represent our country, we have the three lions give worthwhile data and i'm hoping on our chest. whether that is in front of nobody we will really get close to that 60% or in front of a full crowd, i don't think it will take and we will get 30, 40% plus here. the competitive side away, there is a lot of keenness to use it will be a completely different scenario for us it. all the holes being done this to get our head around that. morning by our local newspaper, the cou nty we will do anything to get cricket morning by our local newspaper, the county press and the isle of wight radio shows over 85% of people say back onto tvs and for the people to follow and watch. they have a smartphone, they will be

if that means we have to play downloading the app, and i want to keep myself safe and my loved ones in front of nobody, then so be it. site and protect the nhs, save lives and actually the nation is looking to us. i will not suggest everyone over 60 is a luddite but the point that is all this but for now, see has been made many times that a lot you soon. of people in that age group, the over 70s, don't have smartphones and they are the ones who will most all day today we've been looking perhaps needed. you are right, but at learning and education our smartphone usage is broadly during the pandemic. we've heard from the education similarto our smartphone usage is broadly secretary today that there will be similar to the national average. we have a slightly higher total of a "phased approach" to reopening older residents. but it is not on a schools in england, based on the latest medical and scientific advice. but there are many questions scale of many other constituencies about how exactly this might happen and what it all means in the uk. eastbourne, newark, many for children's education. you've been sending in your education questions, and we can speak now of these wealthy coastal areas but to matthew burton — headteacher at thornhill community academy and star of the channel 4 programme educating yorkshire. also non—coastal areas, higher older we're also joined by amy gibbons population, so we have a lot of who's a reporter with tes, the times educational supplement. younger folk on the island which is why we have a festival culture, thank you both forjoining me. if i creative arts culture as well as could put the first question to you, having big tourism economy, so the people out and about are not going i may, from sarah, how will school to be the at—risk groups and they will be using this app. we are staff be protected when school is

confident that we will give useful open to pupils? it is a good question and the simple answer is we don't actually know yet. the data nhs x, the digital arm of the nhs to work with us. we have a government is in specified how slightly bigger cohort but it is not school scalp will be protected. what passively bigger and also many of we do know is whatever the our older folk have smartphones. government decides it will have to ta ke government decides it will have to take teachers with it and we did a poll last week that showed 74% of i've been talking to a number of them this morning and they are keen schools staff believe social distancing is impossible. three to use this as well. rory, a quarters of staff said they should question for you from jeff, would it be given pp when more people is be possible to get more technical information on how the nhs at this returned but the government will have to buy these issues in mind but measuring distance and how it can we do have evidence that they are accurately determine a two metre taking the such things seriously and separation? it comes back to this we have also seen a document showing a series of questions on subject bluetooth algorithm which looks at here in schools which will put to hits as part of consultation. the connections and it may not be included whether people should return or school on a rota basis or precise. they will be calibrating it during this whole affair. they parts a is year groups. few leaders believe they can get a reasonable thought it could be enforced social idea of whether you were two metres distancing in schools that they away or four metres away. they are highlighted some measures that could have physical distancing some degree. that could be pupils pretty confident. it has to be said there is a lot of doubt around the returning on a rota basis but also a world about bluetooth in general.

variation in timing such as how good it will be at doing this. but this is a great experiment and staggered starts and finishes. people staying in one room while we'll see what happens.” teachers move around. things like but this is a great experiment and we'll see what happens. i think you wa nt to we'll see what happens. i think you want to come in, bob? on that point arrows indicating one—way systems i haven't even bothered to try and understand the balance going on in and an increased number of the algorithms, but one of the supervisory staff to enforce social elements here is if the algorithm is distancing. there's some of the things that heads have suggested. we picking up too much information they will tone it down a bit and if it is know business is a major issue for not picking up enough information, teachers and staff and the safest they will tone it up. a successful way forward is certainly being test with a good outcome is a bit of considered. as far as what measures will be in place i can't give you a tweaking of the app and then it rules out nationwide. an certain answer at that. matthew, i unsuccessful but successful test is saw you nodding at part of that. drawing up more significant problems social distancing in schools, could it ever work? it's a challenge and which are usage with identify which i hope doesn't happen so i hope what thatis it ever work? it's a challenge and that is something that heads will we get here is a bit of tweaking, a work through properly with the government advice and guidance. it isa government advice and guidance. it is a real challenge. because of the bit of work finalising everything sheer numbers and volume of students from the tracing and testing and the and staff within school buildings. app from the tracing and testing and the both primary and secondary. it is app itself and then it is good to go for 65 million people and notjust a about how we manage that and work 140,000 folk on the island. what you

that. if and when schools are returned. i think it's also just said, margaret, she says how important to consider what will the app work with nhs and taxability could be adapted towards essential workers, surely they will that as well. considering as was receive messages constantly regarding the fact they have been in occluded to whether it is one year contact covid symptom contact, very much that point? absolutely but for group in at one particular time or a proportion of the year group with a that point specifically i don't know skeleton staff in continuing, if rory has anything to add, if you whether that is something that might are donning kit because you are a work, clearly we will have to nurse or doctor looking after covid consider it very seriously. we will patience you will be getting a have to make it very safe for people reminderon your patience you will be getting a reminder on your machine to turn the bluetooth of when you are with covid to be in schools and that is really important, that is important ignorance. christina nsx says we did possible patients and you will be reminded once you take the kit off not make sense to send children back to school part—time to reduce the classroom sizes and ensure all are or ppe off to make sure the bluetooth is on. rory always has given equal opportunity, would that work? again that is something that something to add. it says on the app will come out through government guidance and the next coming days. i turn off the bluetooth when you put on the ppe, health workers. it is would be surprised if all students obvious, you do not want the entire we nt would be surprised if all students went back at same time. that is not hospital to be told to self—isolate the noises that anybody is hearing i because they have been in contact with someone who has got the virus. would imagine that there will be

some education for groups of then again it is very unlikely that someone who has got the virus will students at particular points and when actually schools operate as suddenly download the app the moment they used to operate before the they arrive in hospital. if they lockdown, anybody has my guess is as downloaded the app and reported the good as mine but i cannot see it as symptoms before coming to hospital, the next phase of easing the then the people that would have been alerted were people in the general lockdown, the first phase of easing community rather than the health lockdown. i may, from holly in workers that they see after becoming nottinghamshire, a question a lot of people have been asking, if schools cinematic. so that is probably not reopened over the summer and many pa rents a re going to be an issue but that is a reopened over the summer and many parents are uncomfortable with this will be have the option to continue safety first thing don't use it if home—schooling? you wear ppe because you will get a will be have the option to continue home-schooling? another really good question. there are so many unknowns lot of false alarms. interesting about the situation and this is because david asks you, how do you another one. all i can do is know this won't be abused by people speculate. it is an unusual trying to fight in the nation and situation. i think a lot of it will falsely reporting they do have the come down to a schools can manage. symptoms? that is an interesting we talk about schools reopening question. they are worried about that and i think they are tweaking before summer being a possibility things. let's be clear what happens. but we don't know what that might if you report symptoms, first of look like. kevin williamson has said it will be a phased manner. what we can see it could be on a rota basis all, yes, people do get alerts that have been close to you, but the ora can see it could be on a rota basis or a specific year group. but i first stage as they get cautionary would be very surprised if all alerts, basically offering similar pupils went to school at the same

advice to what you are getting, be time. some pupils will have to be careful about washing hands and be careful about washing hands and be careful about washing hands and be careful about social distancing. the person who has triggered that alert remotely and it would be very then gets asked to take a test. they strange if it was ok to do that with some pupils and not others so i get sent a test. when that test would hope home—schooling would continue in some form but it is hard becomes positive, then all those to know what to return to school people they have been in contact would look like an depot which with get a stronger alert saying you pupils may need to continue learning have to self—isolate also. if it is at home. for you matthew, from negative they get an all clear alert. there shouldn't be people really told to do things that they andrew in west sussex, how will don't need to do by mischief makers. home—school children who were due to sit gcses this may, how will they obtain the grades? the grades will bob, have you got something to add to that? i think people could use be given out as they were on the same day that they were expected, i this app maliciously, may be a few believe the 20th of august. schools hundred people, but i think people will have individual plans to make sure that those children get those for the most part are keen to help grades. they are being worked on within schools at the moment and it and to use it sensibly and to give will be something to the exam boards good information back. a question in the coming weeks. clearly there from terence bob, he said yesterday will be no exams this year. that has evening i searched for the nhs app been made very clear. there are and was invited to download and alternative arrangements to gather proceeded to do so. i was required

those grades. to ensure students are to photocopy my passport or driving licence and provide my e—mail not disadvantaged by the current situation and climate we live in. in address. i soon realised this was a scam. many people particularly terms of the collection of those burnable people could be exposed to gcse outcomes, key stage four fraudsters. can i ask you and the —— outcomes, they will be collected on the same day as they were in the initial plan which i believe is the vulnerable people. what security 20th of august thursday.” measures will be put in place?” can't stop people downloading stuff initial plan which i believe is the 20th of august thursday. i may, from fiona on deeside says schools when from the internet that is scam. when they reopen is it likely year 11 and 13 will be asked to set up schools it comes to islanders in the next using predicted grades within? another good question. we don't know three days they will get a letter to super speaks of how schools will tomorrow morning, or thursday or reopen but it would seem logical friday, they will get a letter from the chief nurse and from the head of that the element 13 will stay home because the predicted grades are already being used. the episode the chief nurse and from the head of the trust on the isle of wight and it will give them very clear idea of seems to be from what we know so far what to do, giving them a link which on the year groups who have been they shouldn't be downloading to crucial years coming up so year six their mac or pc because you don't need it there but openly on their to secondary school transition, and browser and then go to another then the year tends who are doing browser. there is a very specific link and people should only go on to gcses and year 12 is going on to a—levels. those will be peer groups that like if they are living on the that are prioritised. predicted

isle of wight and i have got a grades are already being used for letter which is going to 80,000 households which should be arriving current year 11 and 13 is. i think on people's doorsteps tomorrow or on it is likely that there will be more likely to stay at home is a site. thursday. rory, i suspect you are notin? thursday. rory, i suspect you are not in? absolutely. don't forget this is not some rogue app laura says what will happen about my daughter's jaycees —— michael gcses downloaded off the internet. this in summer2021, daughter's jaycees —— michael gcses in summer 2021, she studies has a home but it can provide —— compared should be on eventually nationwide, it should be on the apple app store to the supported school provides? there is no clarity yet but what is and the google play store, officially approved apps. it will be really important is people are considering this already. don't pretty obviously what it is. 1.1 significant consideration for should make, there is a danger not students sitting exams in 12 months' of too many of us but too few, time and whether that means that exam boards will look at the content somebody connected with this trial thatis has said the average person may only exam boards will look at the content that is covered in those examinations, whether it will mean there will be some sort of get a thing or alert once every six arrangement that will be made clear within the coming weeks and months, months. don't forget on the isle of wight, it has a quite low level of as yet we don't know. i can't infection. some people may sit imagine that exams will look exactly asi there, download the app and think, imagine that exams will look exactly as i have done for years gone by, what's happening? nothing is given that there is this huge gap happening? so there is a question for students to be learning and in over just how happening? so there is a question overjust how much data over the next week or so they will get from

that gap children will be doing this trial. quick technology loads of work at home, who will have done less work than that at home, question from martin, he says will the new nhs app need you to keep but none of it can equate to what bluetooth turned on permanently? you they would be getting in school which is the curriculum that that school pillows on the options that will need to have bluetooth turned they have chosen to take, so i would on permanently. there are big questions about whether this app, imagine there will be some the way the nhs has designed it, consideration and children won't be allowed to be disadvantaged as gavin willdrain your the way the nhs has designed it, will drain your battery and keep williamson has said that this year running in the background, quite a because 's year 11 for next year. lot of technical experts have 0ne because 's year 11 for next year. one question i want to put you, suggested that that might happen. the nhs team says absolutely not, someone who wishes to remain that won't happen. i've had a look anonymous, home—schooling can exacerbate anxiety and anger in the over the last few hours. it has so home stop i wonder if you have any far only taken about 1% of my advice on supporting mental health battery. of course have not been of children and indeed their near anybody else who has got it, so pa rents ? of children and indeed their parents? the main thing with that is maybe that has an impact, but the a huge consideration and all of us nhs team now that that could be a have natural anxieties and concerns real deterrent if it is going to about what is going on at the train people's battery and if it is moment, none more so than children not going to work unless it is open whose reality has been ripped away all the time, so that will be an interesting test. bob, you were from them and actually the situation therein in now is very different to nothing away. it will not drain

that and in 2020 that starts, the batteries. this has bluetooth light. main piece of advice without knowing low battery usage, works on the back specifics would be to communicate as best we can. in terms of end, have it on all the time, unless you are a nurse or doctor or coming home—schooling considerations, the most important relationship there is into contact is a health not the new teacher and student it professional, people who have cove red. professional, people who have covered. a question from from is parent and child. getting on that level of the situation that we are michelle, how does the app know who has been infected so they can alert in with clarity and honesty and openness i think is really other app users? basically my phone important. things like limiting when out walking around makes contact with other people's phones screen time and social media use and and if that film is passing on a exposure to the news are really important. it is important to know message, but say that person is what is going on but children can feeding symptoms or reporting symptoms during the day, my phone only accept certain amounts of that, we can only deal with certain will be pinged by that phone because amounts of that and it is important they are using the same bluetooth parents know their children and can —based app. depending on how the help to guide them in that way. also pa rt of help to guide them in that way. also part of that has been turning a algorithm works, the distance and routine as best you can stop things strength of signal and all that, i are different but maintaining a would then get a message, not routine with a bedtime that is akin immediately because it is to what it would be if the child was anonymized, i'm not quite sure who i at school and getting up at the may not have come into contact with, reasonable time, the main thing i would return to the thing before, but four to six hours later, i will communicate as best as you can then get a text alerting me to the

despite the challenging possibility i might have come into circumstances. from sandy ince some contact with somebody with symptoms. if they don't turn out to portsmouth, why can schools stay have the all clear i will then get open during the holidays for children to catch up and help with that message as well in due course childcare as grandparents can't soi that message as well in due course so i will now that that was a false babysit? is an interesting question. possibility and i have the all it was a suggestion made by the clear. likewise they then, i will be children's commissioner from england. when she suggested that she got a lot of criticism from teachers told that i should take precautions. and the teaching union said it had probably was one for you, that is the right answer? absolutely. what major practical and contractual concerns about such plans. that may is happening is throughout this or may not be wide gavin williamson has ruled it out stop an interesting process these phones, anyone who has got the app on the phone is suggestion especially if schools are co nsta ntly got the app on the phone is constantly recording interactions with other phones but nothing expected to stay open during the happens until one person in that holidays. amy gibbons and matthew chain actually starts reporting symptoms. that triggers the yellow burton, thank you both very much. alert and then only when they have got the test, a positive test, do you get effectively the red alert going out to people. rory, one hear from paul copeland and i will read all filming in hollywood has been completely shut down due this as it is written. i normally

to coronavirus, and delays mean some live in china but am currently movies and tv series locked down in the uk. the will now never be made. equivalent of the app that they use cast and crews might have their is built into each app. to quarantine together in future to enable filming to begin again. mandatory to register when you re—enter the country and you have to 0ur los angeles correspondent show red, amber or green entry code sophie long reports. i've done some crazy to access certain places. will this (bleep) in my day. app be mandatory in the uk? you have lapd! to explain what he is talking about this is the latest american because i haven't got a clue. what cop drama, la's finest. he is talking about is a much more and this is how it's made. frankly coercive system of control one more time. cast and crew crammed together. in china. a different kind of app. and. . .action! we are not talking bluetooth there. los angeles was once a hotbed of creative activity. lots of extraordinary cases in asia, but now, iconic locations some countries take great success in where films and television controlling the virus, but methods series are set lie empty. that we might have felt intrusive. i ama that we might have felt intrusive. i am a man in taiwan who got a visit and while piers and beaches could soon reopen to the public, from the police because his phone it's unlikely cameras will be battery had gone dead and they were allowed to roll any time soon. there's so many micro industries monitoring his phone, making sure he was in the same place. when the built within one production, so, you know, for instance, phone battery went dead the police we have the regularfilming, which requires our crew, arrived 45 minutes later. that is a and you have your camera operator different kind of app. there are who also has a dolly grip who pushes

already plenty of people worried the dolly that the camera sits on. for them to be six feet apart about the privacy aspects of our is almost impossible because they're right there, side—by—side. app, so the government is trying to reassure them by saying there will as films sets lie deserted, emptied by the same pandemic not be mission creep, there will not as the real streets they replicate, bea not be mission creep, there will not be a state of affairs where you have several scenarios circulate to show your app to your employer or as to how productions could function in the future. the pub or whatever to be allowed to go in but that is the kind of thing so one project that i heard that people are worried about. the about was considering quarantining government keep stressing this is optional, we want you to download the entire crewjust because... it, we can't make it. bob, on the interesting and a unique way to do it. it sounds like everyone would get tested beforehand, privacy issue, i want to ask this go into quarantine together, because a lot of people are make the movie together, but that would mean a lot concerned, and i will give you a scenario, say the police wanted to of challenges for people, too, find out what you have been doing and not seeing your family, over the last few weeks and they and depending how long that is, know you have the app, could they that could be really tricky. find out which movements are somehow through it? i don't believe it is e2 is finessing his swing while he waits for work to resume, the case. you raise a good question. confident they already have the ability to create when i talked to the nhs next people a safer environment. when we shoot intimate scenes, they said, i will ask the net, but i you know, love scenes and things like that, suspect the answer is no. when it we really try to keep a closed set. this is going to be the new norm. comes to data privacy this is about as light and intrusion as you could possibly get. if i'm signing up to

actors are much more valuable than we are. you know, i hate to this app i put in the first four digits of my post code, 12 on the say it, but they are! and i think we have to do everything we can to make them feel co mforta ble a nd safe island, i then get anonymized and that is what is going to take the time, is to get them back on set number, the system sees me as an and feeling comfortable and safe anonymized number and i will only so that they can do what they do. give further details, name and # as she gets too hungry address if i request a test or report myself to be ill. we have fordinnerat 8:00... significant data privacy issues, the work may have halted, but many here were born to perform. in the absence of theatres, every balcony has become a stage. china, information state, google # she'd never bother... hoovering up information, that is not the same. we probably give more and while much of this city — information when we go to itself a film set — lies empty, supermarkets than we would by the creative community are confident the wheels of production downloading this incredibly data privacy light system. thank you both will turn again. sophie long, bbc news, los angeles. very much for your time this let's look some more at the impact of the pandemic on the film industry. afternoon. we can speak to matt mueller who is editor of screen international. that is a bookcase! we've seen quite a few but that is a good one. dvds

as well. excellent, all neatly lined up. let's talk about the impact, you are watching bbc news with me, what do you think the long—term simon mccoy. impact on the film industry was b of all day today we're looking at education and home schooling this pandemic is yellow? the long—term will be quite significant, during the pandemic. the education secretary said today that there will be a phased approach to schools reopening in england the point that reductions can taxi when the time is right, based on medical and scientific advice. in the meantime, parents ta ke the point that reductions can taxi take place at the moment, that is a and carers are having to get very long—term problem that could on with home schooling — often with mixed results. we can talk now to elizabeth create a gap in the production tweedale who's the founder of cypher london coding camps pipeline for companies that want to release or put things out onto which teach children how to code. she's taken her coding broadcast. the question around camps online and joins us along with her daughter, nico. cinemas reopening is a massive thank you both for your time. you'd question for the entire industry and better first of all explain, how quickly audiences who want to go elizabeth, what it is and how it back to cinemas given even with works. we teach children between the strict social distancing guidelines, ages of four and 12 how to code and whether the cinema experience will be something embraced very quickly predominantly that is through our physical camps which are after lockdown's and around the after—school clubs, holiday camps as world. there are significant factors well as in the school curriculum. across the industry and all the but with the lockdown in place we different sectors and i think quickly shifted all of our camps

eve ryo ne different sectors and i think everyone is putting their heads having a lot of our students who are together and trying to come up with signed up with the easter break protocols that will work for getting camps devastated that they wouldn't productions back online, cinemas be seeing their friends and we put reopened, getting film festivals to all of those online. now we have an be able to reopen because that is a very important part of the chain as online offering where children can join in after school or during the well, so many different facets that need to be coming together for the holiday to see their friends and film industry to get back on track. learn the crucial skill of learning how to code and computational many films already ready to go. i'm thinking. nico, how does it work, is just wondering if some phone it good? it is really fun. i'm companies are saying let's forget cinemas, this just companies are saying let's forget cinemas, thisjust get companies are saying let's forget cinemas, this just get it out there, the bond films coming out in november but our other film companies saying streaming may be the best way to get our stuff out getting to see more classes and on there now? controversially to many or some, universal has already gone down that road with controls world the computer through the day... tour which they put out to video on demand and this bypass to cinemas elizabeth, the challenge for any pa rent elizabeth, the challenge for any parent at the moment is getting once which was their argument for putting dismantled getting youngsters to get it on to preview vod, and chains involved. many are put off and reacted badly to that because there frightened by technology of this isa reacted badly to that because there is a windowing process in place nature? it is absolutely a where films aren't supposed to go on

challenging time for all parents to home entertainment for platforms having to jump into challenging time for all parents having tojump into home—schooling and a lot of that is online, but until a few months after they are in cinema chains, so two of the largest what we have seen at our camps, cinema chains, so two of the largest cinema chains, so two of the largest cinema chains in the world now said children as young as six are they won't play universal titles and thriving in this environment and i think universal has been the most technological skills and advancements they are making day aggressive in this policy, but i after day, it is unprecedented from what we have seen in the past. we think with the cinema chains reacting quite strongly there is a lot of words flying back and forth have over 300 kids in the last that are quite strong full stop couple of weeks and their excitement however universal as the bond film for doing all this work and having and that comes out in november, i that physical one—to—one interaction can believe these two cinema chains with other students, it has been will want to not play the film exceptional. it is definitely a because it was he so importance for challenge and as a parent it is audiences back into cinemas. in the quite daunting, but actually the kids are coming to it quite well. meantime the demands from companies like netflix, amazon is growing quite daunting, but actually the kids are coming to it quite weltm is being well received. good news. exponentially? of course people are stuck at home and they need things we are out of time but really good to watch and companies like netflix to talk to you. thank you both very and amazon are well placed to serve much. that market. as you say new models, now it's time for a look at the weather with ben rich. they are being experimented with. there are some dramatic swings in temperature to come through the rest of this week. initially those distributors and studios putting films straight onto home temperatures will be heading upwards. this weather set up with entertainment platforms is a little low pressure to the west and

high—pressure drifting to the east bit scary for the industry overall will allow us to tap into some warm airfrom the because a cinema experience is a will allow us to tap into some warm air from the south. we will allow us to tap into some warm airfrom the south. we had record—breaking temperatures for the socially important part of people time of year in parts of spain and experiencing movies and many of us also southern france through this week and some of that warmth is wa nt experiencing movies and many of us want that experience to last and continue and not be something that going to be dragged in our direction. however a big shift in the weather pattern by the weekend, becomes a long—term victim of the we get high—pressure building to the pandemic. really good to talk to west, low pressure to the east and you. thanks so much for your time. that will drive a northerly wind. no more warmth. in fact it is going to let's catch up with the weather with feel dramatically colder. back to ben. temperatures are set to head the here and now we have had some rain across the south—west of upwards over the next few days and england, particularly some of that then down again as we go through the into southern wales. the rain weekend. in the shorter term where continuing to fizzle but we keep weekend. in the shorter term where we have had rain today across the some cloud in the far south—west of the uk as we head into the night. we south—west of england and far south of wales that rain will continue to also see this lump of the cloud fizzle through this evening and rolling in from a north sea. to the night. we will keep quite a lot of cloud here. also some cloud some of coast of yorkshire and lincolnshire. quite a lot of cloud across the the coasts in yorkshire and northern isles. where we keep clear lincolnshire but where we keep clear skies it will be quite a cold night. spells, it will be a cold night. widely we will see temperatures many spots down towards praising. quite close to freezing. some spots some spots in scotland could get willdip down just below. enter tomorrow a quite close to freezing. some spots will dip below particularly across the northern half of the uk. into few showers in parts of cornwall and tomorrow a lot of clubs still across

the northern isles, some showers maybe pembrokeshire, a lot of cloud just clipping into the far in the northern isles but otherwise south—west of england. maybe the largely fine and dry. some spells of south—west of england. maybe the south—west of england. maybe the south—west of wales. 0therwise south—west of england. maybe the south—west of wales. otherwise it is sunshine. a bit of patchy cloud here afine, dry south—west of wales. otherwise it is a fine, dry out with long spells of and there and a slightly warmer feel sunshine. and a somewhat warmer day to the weather. temperatures around as well. temperatures up to run 15, 15 for aberdeen and newcastle, 19 in aberdeen and newcastle 19 is likely cardiff. the temperatures continue to climb into thursday and friday. in cardiff. then into thursday, parts of the south could get to 25. still some showers drifting across the west and perhaps the north of for the weekend we develop a the west and perhaps the north of the uk. 0ne northerly wind which will turn the west and perhaps the north of the uk. one or two could be heavy dramatically colder. they could even 00:59:25,644 --> 4294966103:13:29,430 be some wintry showers. and may be thundery. further south largely fine with some sunny spells. 22 towards the south—east. even parts of scotland and northern ireland will be in the mid to high teens. into friday, again a lot of fine weather around. some spells of sunshine. it could be a bit misty for some western coastal areas and may be what the odd shower. some patchy rain and snow in scotland whereas southern spots will get up to 25, it will start to feel cool in the far north of the uk. it is that cold air that winds into the weekend. this cold front will sink quite slowly south but eventually by sunday all of us into the colder air and hints of some wintry showers,

particularly in the north and east. cool in the north on saturday. by sunday a dramatic drop in the temperatures for all of us. this is bbc news. i'm ben brown. the headlines: more than 30,000 people in the uk have now died in the coronavirus pandemic. the number of deaths in care homes continues to rise. criticism of the uk's initial testing procedures from its own chief scientific adviser. i think if we'd managed to ramp testing capacity quicker it would have been beneficial. for all sorts of reasons, that didn't happen. virgin atlantic announces 3000 job cuts and the end of services at gatwick airport because of the impact of coronavirus. a new nhs app to trace the spread of coronavirus is trialed and if its successful it could be

expanded within weeks. and an urgent review is launched after pictures emerge of this aer lingus flight to london with no apparent social distancing. good afternoon. latest official figures show there have been more than 32 ——32,000 deaths in the uk linked to coronavirus. new data shows that nearly a quarter of all recorded covid—19 deaths took place in care homes. virgin atlantic has announced it is to cut 3000 jobs, most of them in the uk and end its operation at gatwick, as the airline industry continues to struggle amid the coronavirus pandemic. a new nhs app to track the spread of coronavirus is being rolled out on the isle of wight today.

the trial will help shape the uk government's strategy for easing the lockdown. more on all those stories, including thejob cuts at virgin atlantic, coming up shortly. but first this report from lauren moss. the true cost of coronavirus is becoming clearer every week. more than 30,000 people are now thought to have died with covid—19 in the uk. up to the 24th of april, a quarter of those deaths were in care homes alone. although slightly less than the week before, the total number is still more than double what we would expect at this time of year. these are largely deaths that were taking place until around the 20th, 21st of april. that is about four or five weeks after the lockdown was first advised and then instructed, so if we think about the timeline of the disease, it often about three orfour weeks from becoming infected to, sadly, death.

but the real number of those who have lost their lives in the community is expected to rise further. they are not just figures of course, they are someone's mother, father, sister, brother, a loved person and we must never lose sight of that but we need more help from the government on testing, on ppe and financial support and i think we need more help so we can reduce the deaths in care homes going forward. we need to be on the centre and not the periphery. today government advisers have been discussing the response to the pandemic and said wider testing earlier may have been useful. if we had managed to ramp testing capacity quicker it would have been beneficial, and, you know, for all sorts of reasons that did not happen. and i think it is clear you need lots of testing for this, but to echo what jenny harries has said, it is completely wrong to think of testing as the answer, it's just part of the system that you need to get right.

new documents from the scientific advisory group for emergencies, known as sage, detail possible solutions for gradually easing lockdown restrictions including a traffic light system for high, medium and low risk activities, and a warning that any future antibody tests, which would detect if someone has had the virus, could be misused. the health secretary has announced that all nhs staff with or without symptoms will now be tested for covid—19, and he said getting personal protective equipment to all health and social care staff is still a priority. of course this is incredibly important to make sure that we protect those who live in social care, who receive social care in their own home, and i'm glad that in the numbers released this morning, the data released by the office for national statistics, the number of deaths in care homes is slightly lower, but it is still far too high and there is a huge amount of work still to do.

as the death toll climbs, there are calls for small scale funeral services to resume in churches to honour the wishes of the deceased and their loved ones. each day of this pandemic brings new pain, but also some new hope for how to get through it. lauren moss, bbc news. virgin atlantic is to cut 3000 jobs in the uk and end its operation at gatwick. the company says it plans to reshape and resize its business in response to the pandemic. earlier we heard from transport correspondent, tom burridge. there is a horrible sense of deja vu because only last week we had british airways coming out with 12,000 job cuts and basically saying that they might not restart their operation at gatwick airport. today virgin atlantic saying 3000 jobs will go, they currently employ 10,000 people in the uk and they say their gatwick operation will not restart,

at least in the near to medium term. they will still keep some of their gatwick slots, not ruling out going back altogether, but they are going to cut the size of their of aircraft fleet down, that the standard for for airlines at the moment. they say they hope to restore about 60% of flight capacity by the end of the year. but it is all very uncertain, airlines across the board are haemorrhaging cash and in real problems and in the case of virgin atlantic, they are going through a process with the government where they are applying for emergency loans, that is ongoing. they have hired an investment bank to attract new investors and get the private sector to stump up some of the investment.

morejob cuts, what more job cuts, what is the reaction in westminster? huge potentiallyjob losses for virgin atlantic and still the threats of job losses virgin atlantic and still the threats ofjob losses at british airways as well. the reaction here, labour had said that needs to be industry specific deal for the aviation industry and they are pressing the government to do more. there has also been reaction from the pilots' union, who are deeply disappointed in the announcement from virgin and withdrawal operations from gatwick. the prime minister's spokesman was asked earlier, he would not confirm if the government had been approached for financial assistance from virgin atla ntic financial assistance from virgin atlantic before the announcement of the gatwick withdrawal. airports as well as airlines have been affected and he said there would be helpful

airports in the same way as other businesses across the economy what he did not say specifically special measures for the aviation industry. we arejust measures for the aviation industry. we are just waiting for the briefing at downing street, daily briefing in just under an hour's time, the government mulling over the litter statistics and data before we get the announcement on sunday we are expecting, on any potential easing of the lockdown. that's right, we will find out if we've reached again to 100,000 testing target, it was down to 85,000 yesterday but the government say they are very pleased how they have ramped up the testing capacity and that puts them in a good place when they moved on to contact tracing. that has been piloted in the isle of wight this week. also pretty grim backdrop today from the office for national statistics because the statistics will hear today from dominic raab is doing at the press conference, the foreign

secretary and first secretary of state, we will hear at the latest figures for death for coronavirus all settings and further figures from the 0ns from last month which don'tjust look at from the 0ns from last month which don't just look at death from people who tested positive for coronavirus, but mentioned on the death certificate and more than one third of all deaths were from coronavirus or related to causes —— related causes and it showed a pretty grim toll for care homes and the government will be under pressure to say what they are doing to try to get that down. he will also want to talk today about the general backdrop to the review which the government has to carry this out on thursday, the lockdown review but we know that the prime minister will give his road map on sunday. the message i think will be the government is moving cautiously and as far as government is moving cautiously and as faras i'm government is moving cautiously and

as far as i'm aware on thursday it is very unlikely indeed the government will announce any lifting, any easing of the lockdown at that stage, we may get some details of how restrictions could be eased when the prime minister speaks on sunday. it feels like in terms of the detail, it is on hold at the moment. bit more detailfrom scotland, how people may be able to socially isolate in bigger groups, some hints from the government that the virus is less virulent when it is outdoors rather than indoors so that could be easing of restrictions there but i think we will have to wait until sunday for details of how the government will try to edge out of lockdown and sir keir starmer and trying to influence the process as well and also pushing notjust for quicker testing and tracing but also for the national standard as he is calling its com of safety in the workplace to encourage people and give them confidence to return to the workplace.

scotland's first minister nicola sturgeon says that it is highly unlikely the scottish government will relax lockdown restrictions this week, but she has outlined more details on what measures they will take when it is safe to do so. she was speaking at the scottish government's daily briefing this afternoon. we are considering firstly if and how we could safely change our advice on spending time outdoors, to allow exercise outside to happen more than once a day, so long as we continue to stay apart from people outside our own households. second, we are also considering if a slight relaxation in the rules to allow meeting up with a small, defined group of people from other households in a sort of bubble might be possible, even if initially that was only possible out of doors and not indoors. a new nhs smartphone app is being made available to residents of the isle of wight today in a key trial that will help shape the government's strategy

for easing the lockdown. council and health care workers will be the first to try it with the rest of the island able to download it from thursday. there are concerns over privacy but if the trial is successful, it could be rolled out nationally within weeks. duncan kennedy reports from the isle of wight. home to 140,000 people, the isle of wight is now the setting for one of the biggest uk technological experiments in recent years. this community nurse is one of thousands of nhs staff to be given the new smartphone app first. i think it is a really good idea to be able to track and trace exactly what's going on with covid—19. being a community nurse, it is really important so we know exactly where the movements are. i think there is lots of practical issues that might not have been fully thought through, but until the app is tested we will not know those in detail.

the government released this video today to explain how the new app works, it logs people close to each other and if someone develops coronavirus symptoms the app can alert those people to self—isolate. this is a real opportunity for the island to lead in the development of this app and to follow on from that, the nation will come behind us and the whole country can use it. i think it's a good extra tool. nhs staff are receiving the app today which will give them a link to download the app via an e—mail. around 3000 nhs staff will be offered the app over the next 48 hours and then the rest of the population here on thursday — that's about 80,000 households — and what the government wants is for about at least half of those to take up the app, start using it, to give this experiment credibility. local people here seemed mostly willing to download and use the new app.

it would be so nice to have a little bit of security, to know that we are not carrying the virus. there are some, including government advisers, who are worried about privacy issues raised by using the new app. i'm slightly concerned there has not been enough consultation with the public, and there is a lot of concern being raised by the public about the governance of it, the security and privacy of it, the private company that is owning it, and so whether or not the public will take it up in the numbers that are needed is a question. if the isle of wight trials go well, the app will be rolled out across the uk, but it will be up to individual nations to decide how to implement the scheme. the headlines on bbc news: more than 30,000 people in the uk

have now died in the pandemic — the number of deaths in care homes continues to rise. the government's chief scientific adviser criticises the uk's initial coronavirus testing procedure. virgin atlantic announces 3000 job cuts and the end of services at gatwick airport because of coronavirus. the coronavirus lockdown is tough enough for everyone but for children who rely on school for much more than learning, experts claim it's becoming damaging. children with additional support needs are without their vital routines and, according to charities, some families are being pushed into crisis. john 0wen reports. for weeks now, schools that are usually a hive of activity have looked more like this. and for most schoolchildren, the new normal looks like this.

with the exception of the children of critical workers and some vulnerable children, most young people are attempting to continue their education at home, with schools relying heavily on online resources. but now school leaders and charities have warned of a growing gulf between disadvantaged pupils and their more affluent counterparts, and of the long—term consequences that could follow for those young people who are currently being denied an education. we face a huge potential wave of educational poverty. there are some families that have had to stop paying for their monthly broadband because they haven't got the money to be able to do it. i think there could possibly be a lost generation of young people. carlton bolling academy is a comprehensive school in one of the most deprived areas of bradford, with 1500 students, most of whom are not currently attending school. at the present time, we have got only about 35%

engagement in the online learning. part of the problem is that some of our young people do not have and their families do not have access to the internet or to laptops. so it means that all our interactive learning online, they cannot access so they have got paper—based learning. jane explained that whilst many students have no access to the internet at all, some, like this year ten student, simply have very limited access. me and my brother both share a laptop. and also i've got an auntie at home who is also studying at this moment in time so between the three of us, there is one laptop that we have to share. research suggests thatjust a third pupils overall are taking part in online lessons each day, but those from private schools are twice as likely to so as their counterparts at state schools. the gap between advantaged and disadvantaged in our education system is already significant. we know that what is now happening is that gap is getting wider, even despite the best efforts of schools, the bbc

and other people providing all kinds of online resources. the government has pledged £100 million to boost remote learning and has committed to provide laptops to vulnerable young people and disadvantaged pupils in year ten, although some say more urgent action is needed. the government need a national strategy to look at imaginative solutions to make sure that these left—behind, vulnerable children, pupils and students are being looked after and educated. but with no clear end to the lockdown in sight, fears of irreparable damage to young people's educational prospects continue. john 0wen, bbc news. denmark became the first country in the western world to reopen its elementary schools — that's equivalent to our primary schools — since the start of the coronavirus pandemic. it has turned the danish education system into a laboratory for whether and how schools can function in an age of contagion. tanja linnet is the district principal of logumkloster district school in denamrk and joins us now.

thank you very much for talking to us. tell us, when did you reopen on what is going on at your school? we reopened three weeks ago and we call it the zero upgrade to the fifth grade, six grade to ninth grade are not back yet, but the other ones are. the vulnerable children are also back in school. how is it going so far? what is the progress like? it's going very well, all the children are extremely happy to be back in school, together with their playmates again, they are happy about that. the parents are happy having their children at school as well because it is not too easy having them at home for the long time the lockdown has been so it

goes very time the lockdown has been so it goes very well. it goes well with the health authorities‘ guidelines. we are cleaning the school twice a day, all the toilets, all the contact point are cleaned twice a day. it goes as we have planned it. what about social distancing? how do you keep the children away from each other? we only have up to 14 children in the same group and they have to b two metres distance all the time between them. there is one teacher for every group for the whole day, they are not allowed to play together, in the schoolyard they know where they have to play, they know where they have to play, they know where they have to play, they know where to walk in and we have several entrances and they have to walk in to the school from different

entrances. the parents are not allowed to walk into the school. we made our plan through easter and i guess it works. because i know some teachers in this country are quite worried about small children going back to school saying it is almost impossible to get small children to socially distance, keep apart from each other. it's other. it‘s not at all. the children is the easiest thing. they are very aware to keep the distance of two metres and when they play together they know that when they are outside it is not quite as important but inside they have to be at least two metres distance. they know it very well. of course, we have the appearance and teachers that have been anxious —— we have pa rents teachers that have been anxious —— we have parents and teachers that have been anxious about how this

will work but as time goes we see that it works but we haven‘t had that it works but we haven‘t had that many cases in our area, it is important to save. so our conditions are probably different from yours. i suppose what you are saying is what you are doing there could be a kind of prototype for other schools, you are setting the way, other schools in denmark but also around europe, when the reopen. yes, i guess we are a kind of pioneer and they can use the weight we‘ve done it. what helped us was the health authorities‘ guidelines for how to do it. we had to make guidelines for how to wash hands, the children wash their hands a day and the cleaning workers, they are doing it very well and they are instructed how. we have a day or two where we were maybe doing some

mistakes, but it didn‘t take a long time and then we had a kind of routine in being at school like this. thank you so much for talking to us. many thanks, and good luck. three members of one family have died within days of each other keith dunnington — a 54—year—old nurse from south shields — died at his parents‘ house. a week later both his parents died in hospital with the virus. the family say they are devastated but have praised their local hospital. when they realised that my auntie was slipping away, they pushed the beds together so that he could hold her hand. and my auntie‘s faith was very important to her, and my uncle‘s, and she had a little wooden cross that she treasured in one hand, and she was holding my uncle‘s hand with the other and they played her

favourite song on the radio, on their phones. they got it up for them and she just slipped peacefully away, holding hands with my uncle. isolation is having a major impact on patients who suffer from severe mental health problems — thats the warning from a psychiatrist at one of the uks leading mental health trusts. he says that the impact on patients who suffer from psychosis — that‘s when people lose contact with reality and might hear voices — has been profound. sima kotecha has been given exclusive access to a psychosis recovery tea m. got to try and keep the social distance. a consultation, coronavirus style. you are saying it‘s a struggle? the doctor meets his patient on a walk, an effective way of working during lockdown. the voice i'm experiencing now will never allow somebody like you to suffer what i live. david suffers with psychosis.

for years he‘s heard voices but since being in isolation a new voice has emerged, known as a command hallucination. how has self isolation been for you, david? that's when command came. when the voices came? yeah, yeah. the voice, yes, but command is something new. the doctor is going to work through with me for me to understand why command with voice is only negative... you‘ve put it very clearly that the command voice has come back in since the crisis. yeah. so psychosis is a mental disorder, it‘s a health condition, it‘s a mental health condition, but the crucial thing is it‘s an eminently treatable... psychiatrist steve church walks around the community to check on his patients. he says being alone can make psychosis worse. the whole treatment that we are about is trying to help people not self—isolate, trying to help people to re—engage with society. the self—isolation is one of the red

flag hallmarks of somebody becoming unwell in the first place, where they just take themselves into a psychosis—induced lockdown. i think she's been quite disinhibited, not really acknowledging covid guidelines... at st giles clinic in south london, the central psychosis recovery team discuss which patients need urgent sectioning. we‘re just not seeing her, not physically seeing her. can‘t get access to the property. you know, when she becomes completely unwell she stops eating and drinking properly. even though the clinic is very much open, it is eerily quiet. most patients are at home self isolating and staff say that they are having to go to their homes instead to provide treatment there. anthony‘s being treated by the team and has regular home visits. it‘s a lot more slower, a lot more peaceful, do you know what i mean? it‘s not so... like a rat race, as it were. so you enjoy being on your own? i do.

i‘m quite a solitary person, i wouldn‘t mind being reclusive. idon‘t mind. 3 to 4% of the uk‘s population suffers with psychosis. the majority get treated and are able to live a normal life. a lot of the time, these could be very unpleasant experiences and, you know, having a support network really helps them, and at this point, when that‘s not there, you know, they are having to deal with far more than the average individual would be managing at the moment. for people with severe mental health problems, the path ahead is a lonely one. sima kotecha, bbc news, south london. new car sales slumped by about 97% in april, to the lowest level since 1946. just over 4,300 sales were registered. the industry says it believes there will be half a million fewer new cars sold this year than previously thought. a brown bear has been spotted in a national park in northwest

spain for the first time in 150 years. the pictures were captured by camera traps set up by a crew shooting a film in the galicia region. you can see him foraging for food here — and in a moment he gets a back scratch. the production company said the bear was aged between three and five years old and was possibly the first to have been in the area since 1870. now it‘s time for a look at the weather with ben rich. temperatures are set to head upwards over the next few days and then down again as we go through the weekend. in the shorter term where we have had rain today across the south—west of england and far south of wales, that rain will continue to fizzle through this evening and night. we will keep quite a lot of cloud here. also some cloud on some of the coasts in yorkshire and lincolnshire but where we keep clear skies it will be quite a cold night. many spots down towards freezing.

some spots in scotland could get down just below. into tomorrow a few showers in parts of cornwall and maybe pembrokeshire, a lot of cloud in the northern isles but otherwise largely fine and dry. some spells of sunshine. a bit of patchy cloud here and there and a slightly warmer feel to the weather. temperatures around 15 for aberdeen and newcastle, 19 in cardiff. the temperatures continue to climb into thursday and friday. parts of the south could get to 25. for the weekend we develop a northerly wind which will turn dramatically colder. there could even be some wintry showers.

hello, good afternoon. this is bbc news. i‘m ben brown. 0ur headlines... more than 30,000 people in the uk have now died in the coronavirus pandemic. the number of deaths in care homes continues to rise. criticism of the uk‘s initial testing procedures from its own chief scientific adviser. and... for all sorts of reasons, that didn‘t happen. virgin atlantic announces 3,000 job cuts and the end of services at gatwick airport because of the impact of coronavirus. a new nhs app to trace the spread of coronavirus is trialed,

and if it‘s successful, it could be expanded within weeks. and an urgent review is launched after pictures emerge of this aer lingus flight to london with no apparent social distancing. good afternoon. latest official figures show there have been more than 32,000 deaths in the uk linked to coronavirus. new data shows that nearly a quarter of all recorded covid—19 deaths took place in care homes. virgin atlantic has announced it is to cut 3,000 jobs, most of them in the uk and end its operation at gatwick, as the airline industry continues to struggle amid the coronavirus pandemic. a new nhs app to track the spread

of coronavirus is being rolled out on the isle of wight today. the trial will help shape the uk government‘s strategy for easing the lockdown. more on all those stories — including thejob cuts at virgin atlantic coming up shortly. but first this report from lauren moss. the true cost of coronavirus is becoming clearer every week. more than 30,000 people are now thought to have died with covid—19 in the uk. up to the 24th of april, a quarter of those deaths were in care homes alone. although slightly less than the week before, the total number is still more than double what we would expect at this time of year. these are largely deaths that were taking place until around the 20th, 21st of april. that is about four or five weeks after the lockdown was first advised and then instructed, so if we think about the timeline of the disease, it often about three orfour weeks from becoming infected to, sadly, death.

but the real number of those who have lost their lives in the community is expected to rise further. they are not just figures of course, they are someone's mother, father, sister, brother, a loved person and we must never lose sight of that but we need more help from the government on testing, on ppe and financial support and i think we need more helpt so we can reduce the deaths in care homes going forward. we need to be on the centre and not the periphery. today government advisers have been discussing the response to the pandemic and said wider testing earlier may have been useful. if we had managed to ramp testing capacity quicker it would have been beneficial, and, you know, for all sorts of reasons that did not happen. and i think it is clear you need lots of testing for this, but to echo what jenny harries has said, it is completely wrong to think of testing as the answer, it's just part of the system that you need to get right.

new documents from the scientific advisory group for emergencies, known as sage, detail possible solutions for gradually easing lockdown restrictions including a traffic light system for high, medium and low risk activities, and a warning that any future antibody tests, which would detect if someone has had the virus, could be misused. the health secretary has announced that all nhs staff with or without symptoms will now be tested for covid—19, and he said getting personal protective equipment to all health and social care staff is still a priority. of course this is incredibly important to make sure that we protect those who live in social care, who receive social care in their own home, and i‘m glad that in the numbers released this morning, the data released by the office for national statistics, the number of deaths in care homes is slightly lower, but it is still far too high and there is a huge amount of work still to do.

as the death toll climbs, there are calls for small scale funeral services to resume in churches to honour the wishes of the deceased and their loved ones. each day of this pandemic brings new pain, but also some new hope for how to get through it. lauren moss, bbc news. 0ur health correspondent nick triggle is here. as we wait for the latest downing street briefing, where we get the latest statistics, in terms of the daily fatality figures, they are getting quite close to italy‘s figures at the minute? yes, they are. sadly, another 453 deaths have been announced today. although we are still waiting for the community deaths in english to be reported. that brings the total to over 29,000, very close to italy. by the end of the day it may be higher, we are still waiting for the italian

figures to be reported. if and when that happens, it will be a sobering moment. remembering how bad the outbreak was in italy, images of hospitals becoming overwhelmed. i will say there are some really important caveats when it comes to these international comparisons. italy has a slightly smaller population. so per head of population, the death rate is still higher in italy. 0f population, the death rate is still higher in italy. of course, these death figures rely on positive cases being confirmed, and the amount of testing done in the two countries is different. there is quite a different. there is quite a different spread geographically. lombardi in italy has seen half of the deaths in italy. it has been much more spread out here. that is why experts are saying the best measure is not these absolute figures, it is something called excess deaths, which looks at the number of extra deaths above what you would normally expect to see. now, we have to waiter some months, may until the end of the year, to properlyjudge that

may until the end of the year, to properly judge that and judge may until the end of the year, to properlyjudge that and judge the uk record on that, and compare it to other international countries. there has been a lot of criticism of testing, the government‘s testing policy in the last few weeks. we heard some criticism of that from the uk chief scientific advisor? he was being quite used bear quizzed on testing by the select committee. —— he was being quizzed. some people have criticised the fact that tests we re have criticised the fact that tests were posted out, and that was included in the total. that represented significant progress since the start of april, when there was only 10,000 tests a day being done. but he was asked, well, could we have done this earlier? could we have ramped up testing earlier? he said, ithink have ramped up testing earlier? he said, i think if we had managed to mmp said, i think if we had managed to ramp up testing capacity earlier, it would have been beneficial, but for all sorts of reasons that didn‘t happen. we got the first case in january. in mid—march, we had to

stop community testing, testing and the community, and concentrate solely on hospital patients because we didn‘t have enough testing capacity. the question being asked is why didn‘t we react sooner to boost testing? for the moment, thank you very much indeed. virgin atlantic is to cut 3000 jobs in the uk and end its operation at gatwick. the company‘s founder, sir richard branson, has warned the airline will collapse unless it receives government support. brian strutton, the general secretary of the pilots union, balpa, says the prospects for the industry are bleak unless the government steps in. well, there‘s lots of things that we can fight them with. but it‘s not a matter of us fighting. this is about the survival of aviation, the third largest aviation industry in the world, which is critical for the whole uk economy. as an economy, as a nation, we won‘t be able to come out of this crisis if we don‘t have a viable uk airline operation. and, at the end of this year, we‘ve got full brexit, and we are going to need this

industry working well. so, it‘s really up to government to sit down with the whole industry, and with us, and with all the other stakeholders, and work out a plan. how is aviation going to get out of this mess together? don‘tjust leave it up to the individual airlines who are struggling to make their own decisions, there‘s got to be a proper, cohesive plan. we‘ve just had this statement from gatwick airport saying "we are very saddened to hear the news today about virgin atlantic‘s plans. we have had a long, close and successful relationship with the airline since it made its maiden flight from gatwick back in 1984. virgin atlantic will always be welcome at gatwick and we will continue our efforts to explore ways to restart the airline‘s operations as soon as possible, in the knowledge that they intend to retain their slot portfolio at gatwick for when demand returns. this news will be devasting for its staff and the many local businesses that supply and support the airline at the airport and its hq in crawley, however we will continue to work

with virgin atlantic to get them flying again from gatwick." that statement just in. that statementjust in. we can actually speak now to the mp for crawley, henry smith, the conservative mp for crawley. thank you very much for being with us. what is your reaction and what impact on the area do you think it will have? well, this is devastating news from virgin atlantic. as the crawley and gatwick economy are so obviously heavily dependent on the aviation sector, this will have a knock on, ripple effect. it is something i have been calling for additional support in parliament on since january, when the coronavirus consequences were first becoming apparent. and it is something, obviously, i will continue to call for, specific support, notjust for the industry, which is vitalfor uk

trade, as an island trading nation, but also the local economy is like mine who are heavily reliant on the sector. we are hearing british airways might also pull out of gatwick? yes, last week british airways were reported as saying they we re airways were reported as saying they were considering pulling out of gatwick. virgin atlantic, i know, is wanting to come back to gatwick when travel hopefully returns to 2019 levels. it is good to hear gatwick airport welcoming virgin back, as and when they are ready to do so. i think the key point here is that we have otherwise very successful, viable companies, who, through no fault of their own, have seen an immediate impact on their business and a sector that will be somewhat slow to recover, as confidence gradually comes back. they need

particular support to get through this pandemic period, so that these otherwise viable, good british companies can come back. and that doesn‘t just companies can come back. and that doesn‘tjust mean companies can come back. and that doesn‘t just mean government bailouts. these are viable businesses in the long term, so any support from the state will need to be repaid in time by those companies when travel does return to normal levels. i mean, virgin have said this is the biggest crisis in their history. they have been through 9/11, other very difficult times, but this is worse than everything they have been through before. do you understand their decision, the job cuts they have announced? and pulling out of gatwick?” job cuts they have announced? and pulling out of gatwick? i think virgin atlantic have been put in a difficult position, as have many other airlines. this isn‘t the government‘s fault, this pandemic. it is not virgin atlantic or british airways, or any other company‘s fault. but we can do more, i think,

to mitigate its impact. as i say, otherwise viable part of the british economy need to be helped to get over this period so that they can play a key part in the recovery that surely must come afterwards. good to talk to you. thank you very much a deed for that reaction. henry smith the conservative mp for crawley. well, staying with the airline industry — irish airline aer lingus is to review how its services operate after pictures emerged of an almost full flight yesterday morning, with no apparent social distancing. the firm has said any changes will be brought in as a "matter of urgency". emma vardy reports. it was these pictures, taken by a worker travelling from belfast to london, which has led to concern over airlines running full flights despite the lockdown. there was no change today as there was two months ago or three months ago when we were getting the flight on a regular basis. no social distancing whatsoever, none whatsoever.

boarding the plane, the queues were down the steps and onto the tarmac as they were before all this happened — no change whatsoever. i would say there was about 95% of the seats taken. it did look like the majority of the people on the flight were workers, travelling back and forth. since restrictions were imposed, the number of daily flights has fallen by around 80%. some 60 flights a day now arrive at london heathrow, compared to 600 before the pandemic. but there is no government policy capping numbers on board. aer lingus has said there was unexpectedly high demand on the day those pictures were taken and that it is now urgently reviewing its procedures on board. but others in the industry have warned that on a plane social distancing is basically impossible. we don‘t believe social distancing on aircraft actually works. there are two reasons for that. one of which is the obvious economic one. the second of which is around the air conditioning systems on aeroplanes,

which rely in part on recycling air within the cabin. that simply defeats the purpose of social distancing. the bbc has also heard from one member of british airways cabin crew, who wished to remain anonymous, who told us that ba are still operating some short—haul flights at capacity. the government said the aviation industry is important to the uk economy but that getting it back on its feet must be done responsibly. these are some of the big real challenges that we have got to grapple with safely in order to be able to get... to get things restarted. but the safety of people has got to come first. there‘s predictions passenger numbers may not return to previous levels for several years and currently no standard approach for how to operate on board. emma vardy, bbc news, belfast. nicola sturgeon has warned that

fully reopening primary schools in scotland would "most likely" see the nhs overwhelmed by coronavirus within two months. the scottish government has published some options for starting to lift the virus lockdown. they include some year groups returning ahead of others, pupils attending school part—time, and a combination of in—school and home learning. the first minister also said any return to school "might not be possible at all ahead of the summer holidays". john swinney is the education minister for scotland. hejoins me now. thank you so much for being with us. given what nicola sturgeon has been saying, what is your best guess as to when the schools are going to reopen? we face a very challenging situation, and as the first minister set out to do, the level at which coronavirus infection is still present in scottish society doesn‘t really give us very much room for

manoeuvre, to consider easing the lockdown. that obviously has a significant effect on our education system, where young people, apart from vulnerable children and those who are the children of essential workers, are being supported and educated at home just now. now, i think that will go on for the foreseeable future, and i don‘t think we can give any guarantees at this stage that pupils will be back in schools before the summer break, which comes at the end ofjune. but we are working closely with all of our education stakeholders to make sure we come to good, sensible, rational and safe conclusions about how to reopen our schools. and nicola sturgeon was saying that the transmission rate, the r number, the best estimate is that it is between zero. seven and one, but we cannot be sure it is not closer to one, thatis be sure it is not closer to one, that is quite worrying, isn‘t it? that is the reason for the caution that the first minister has expressed. because we have had to

work as a society and every member of the public has made their contribution to this, so hard to reduce the r number, and it has come down significantly in scottish and uk society over the last few weeks of the lockdown. but it still isn‘t low enough to give us the comfort that we can open up different aspects of our society other that is business or schools or other aspects of our society, without endangering the r number. if the r number goes over one number we quickly overwhelm our national health service, and thatis our national health service, and that is what everyone has been working so hard to avoid in recent weeks, and we must take a very careful approach to the analysis of that number and also to the decisions that we take to make sure that we don‘t take any decisions far too early, which then endanger the strength and capacity of the national health service. now, i gather you‘re studying data from denmark, schools in denmark, in

fa ct, denmark, schools in denmark, in fact, we werejust denmark, schools in denmark, in fact, we were just talking to a headmistress from denmark who was saying they reopened their primary school three weeks ago, it has been quite successful so far, they‘ve been able to maintain social distancing between the children — is that a model you could follow?” think there‘s some very interesting experience that comes from the danish example. the work on social distancing, the reconfiguration of schools, the interaction with children and young people has been put in place is very much worth watching. but we‘ve also got to look at some of the data that indicates what can be the impact of decisions of this nature on the r number. and when we are in the situation that could hear injust when we are in the situation that could hear in just now, where the r number is far too close to one, we can take too early a decision. features such as social distancing, changes to the school day and to the arrangements for schooling to which we have been accustomed for many

yea rs, we have been accustomed for many years, strike me as being inevitable as we try to find our way out of these challenging circumstances and get into a position whereby we can reopen our schools. but we will only do that when it is safe for us to do that, falstaff and for pupils of. in terms of other measures, you‘ve also outlined possible relaxations, for example, allowing meeting up with small, defined groups of people, a kind of bob love people, give us an idea how that might work? we recognise that the lockdown is putting a great deal of pressure on individuals, and what our paper is designed to do today is to follow up the material that we set out a week last thursday, to engage the public ina last thursday, to engage the public in a discussion and a conversation about what steps we might take to relax the lockdown, when we are in a more comfortable position to do so. and we don‘t think that is going to be in the course of this week, when we have to undertake a review. so,

the idea of expanding the social circle of individuals is to give people an opportunity to interact just that little bit more openly with family, to try to provide some more of that contact that people are clearly missing in our society. but to do that in a safe and careful fashion. but i stress, we‘re not in a position to take decisions of that nature today, and we recognise the importance of being very —— paying very particular attention to the r number so that we take those decisions at the right time. grateful to you for your time, john swinney, deputy first minister of scotland. this morning, the uk‘s chief scientific adviser, sir patrick vallance, and the deputy chief medical officer for england, drjenny harries, were both quizzed by mps on the health select committee. and as we heard earlier, sir patrick admitted that it would have been beneficial to have ramped up covid—19 testing more quickly, and dr harries said "things would have been done differently"

if test capacity had not been limited at the time. conservative mp greg clark is the chair of the commons select committee for science and technology. we can speak to him now. thanks for being with us. do you agree with those criticisms, that testing just wasn‘t good enough, especially in those early days? yes, my committee has been taking evidence from not just sir patrick and chris whitty, but from people from right across the world, and i think it is now established very conclusively that the more and the earlier and the more extensively you can test, the better. and sir patrick today, i joined that health committee, he has also given evidence to my committee, which has said that it would have been ideal, it would have been preferable, if we have been testing more, earlier. thati preferable, if we have been testing more, earlier. that i think is now a very important lesson that‘s been

learnt. and i say that because it needs to be applied to further decisions when it comes to deploying testing for antibodies, for example, when it comes, hopefully, to be deploying vaccines. we need to get ahead of demand rather than trail the demand. what sort of level of testing would you like there to be? we know matt hancock set that target of 100,000, he achieved we know matt hancock set that target of100,000, he achieved it, we know matt hancock set that target of 100,000, he achieved it, then it dropped below that slightly, but what kind of figure do you have in mind? i don't have an assessment of that, and it is for the scientific experts to say what is needed. but i do think it‘s important to make that assessment, because one of the things that i think has emerged from taking evidence by select committees is that strategy seems to have followed capacity, rather than

driving capacity. that‘s to say that the advice of what we needed to do took as a given the level of testing capacity that we had, reported by public health england, whereas i think the lesson that we need to learn is that we should set out and drive forward some clear recommendations for what testing capacity is needed, and that will be the same for vaccines as well. in other words, i don‘t want to put words into your mouth, but we‘ve kind of been making it up as we go along. there will almost certainly be an inquiry at some stage into the decisions, but do you feel we were generally unprepared, even though we had that pandemic exercise in 2016? i don‘t think the way you put it is right, i think it is harsh, but there is an important decision that was made which a lot of this pivots

on. public health england took a decision early on to have a centralised and therefore quite limited approach to testing, relying on their own labs and then increasing over time, ramping up, on their own labs and then increasing overtime, ramping up, if you want to call it, the capacity for testing, during successive weeks. what we know from south korea, for example, is that they threw everything at it from the very beginning. they had 79 different testing sites across the country, it was surged, and they did that because they‘d learned from their previous experience, of the sars epidemic, the outbreak that was controlled quite quickly. so, they had that in place. and what happened in this country is, a decision was taken to reject the south korean approach in favour of a much more limited one. my committee have asked

for the evidence behind that decision, if a decision was made, it must have been on the basis of analysis past it seems that it was the wrong call, that actually, it would have been better to have that available from the outset and to throw everything at it. so, we‘re very keen to understand that, partly to see what was behind it, but also, as i‘ve just been saying, it‘s really important that throughout this, not every decision is going to be correctly made, whether its by government ministers, officials or even by scientists, that we are working in a fast developing, uncertain nature of this pandemic, so, you need to squeeze out all of the lessons that you can on the way and not be too proud to say, actually, well, we did something wrong, something that wasn‘t the

right decision, and we will make sure that we learn the lesson from that. well, one of those lessons is from south korea, and it is the app, the test, track and trace procedure thatis the test, track and trace procedure that is being trialled out in the isle of wight, how confident are you that that is really going to make a difference, that it will work and thenit difference, that it will work and then it could then be rolled out around the country? well, it depends on the tests. clearly i think it is the right thing that it is being developed and that it is being put into the field at the moment. we do know, not just from into the field at the moment. we do know, notjust from south korea but from other countries across asia, actually, that the reinforcing is it we re actually, that the reinforcing is it were the human track and trace, having people looking into contacts and who people have been in contact with, supplementing that with technology, has been very important. and so it‘s good that that is being developed. again, if we had had it available earlier and had the testing capacity to accompany it, then we would have been following

then we would have been following the approach that has been taken in places like south korea. but there is another important feature of the south korean approach, and indeed other countries‘ approaches, that we have learned, which is it‘s notjust testing and contact tracing, it is the isolation and sometimes the quarantining of individuals. a lot of effort is placed on, when you identify someone, making sure that they are isolated, whether at home or sometimes providing facilities, often using hotels, in which they can stay safely while they get through the illness. so, that is a very important lesson, it seems to me, that we should be looking around the world and applying, we can benefit from the experience of others. greg clark, thank you for your time. we‘ve got the downing

street press briefing coming up very shortly. 0ur political correspondent iain watson is at westminster. just ahead of the briefing, we are going to hear from the ahead of the briefing, we are going to hearfrom the foreign ahead of the briefing, we are going to hear from the foreign secretary, dominic raab, as well. every day the government says it is following scientific advice, and much of that scientific advice, and much of that scientific advice, and much of that scientific advice comes from sage, this group of scientists, but a bit of around over the transparency or lack of transparency surrounding the advice that the government gets? that‘s right. some of the documents still haven‘t been produced, there seems to be a bit of a time lag. the government did produce some documents from sage today, but some of that was redacted, we could not see what was in it. what the government is saying is, we have to keep contact details confidential, but apart from that, where there is excellent advice to ministers, where ministers are being followed by the science but have not yet made a decision, that section is redacted, because they don‘t want to send a confusing message to the public, the

public not be able to take it all in! so what they are saying is, they wa nt in! so what they are saying is, they want the clarity of message at a difficult time, and that message may be in some ways die looted if they we re be in some ways die looted if they were to give people advice on which ministers had not yet acted. there is some other interesting stuff from these documents, i think we are probably going to hear from these documents, i think we are probably going to hearfrom dominic raab about this as well, because the government is under pressure over their handling of the crisis and i think they want to point to some relative successes against a grim backdrop, so i think it will be interesting that the scientific advisers, sage, were saying in march that they thought capacity in critical bad care beds would be breached, and that has not happened, andi breached, and that has not happened, and i think the government will be stressing that that has been one of the successes of their approach, and the successes of their approach, and the lockdown that we are still under. something else that was interesting, there was a suggestion that some of there was a suggestion that some of the areas with low transmission rates could see restrictions eased

sooner. so far, the