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hello. this is bbc news. we'll be taking a look at tomorrow mornings papers in a moment lockdown will only be eased with "extreme caution" says the government — on the eve of a statement on the next phase by the prime minister. a cabinet minister urges patience. moving beyond covid will be a gradual process, not a single leap to freedom. so when we do emerge, the world will seem quite different. ministers pledge to put cycling and walking at the heart of plans in england to get people back to work. calls from worshippers of all faiths to be able to pray together after 7 weeks of lockdown — but senior clerics are wary and the pioneer of rock ‘n‘ roll, little richard dies aged 87.
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well, this is nice. hello and welcome to our look ahead to what the the papers will be bringing us tomorrow. with me are benedicte paviot — uk correspondent for france 2a, and joe twyman, director of polling at the polling organisaton deltapoll. how lovely to see you both. it's been ages, from my point of view. let's see how we drive this thing. the leaders of the four largest trade unions in the uk have written a letter published in tomorrow's observer warning the prime minister that they won't recommend their members return to work until there has been a radical overhaul of workplace health and safety. in the sunday mirror, medical professionals warn that that there could be fatal flaws in the uk's track and trace app because there's too much emphasis on a cough and fever — missing other symptoms.
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the daily mail reports on what they call a furious row between the prime minister and health secretary, matt hancock, over the handling of the coronavirus crisis. while the sunday telegraph lead on the government's new stay alert slogan — with a five—tier warning system used to indicate the virus threat — to be unveiled tomorrow. a warning against easing lockdown restrictions too soon in the sunday times — with a government adviser warning an early lifting could lead to 100 thousand deaths in the uk. lets start with the sunday telegraph. "stay alert", that is the new message from the pm to the nation. stay alert, control the virus, save lives. how clear is that to you? it's quite general. i mean, "stay alert", alert to what? i think everybody is staying alert, everybody is staying alert, everybody would like to stay alert, actually, to a clear message from
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the prime minister, borisjohnson. but we are all having to wait. ten days ago he told us he would give some details on the plan last week, in the last few days, and we are now waiting for the sunday, 7pm deadline to really discover concretely what this means. i think many people were marched up a hill, metaphorically speaking, because we thought, having carefully listened to pmqs, that we we re carefully listened to pmqs, that we were going to get a significant step forward , were going to get a significant step forward, a phase one of the easing of the lockdown on monday. it turns out we have now had warnings, so we are being alert, to the fact that we are being alert, to the fact that we are told it is very cautious. there seems to be some differences between the first minister of scotland, nicola sturgeon. concretely, the sunday telegraph enlightens us and tells us it is stay alert, control the virus and save lives. this will very much be about continuing to
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save lives, but also gradually unlocking the economy. of course, this is, as the bank and gave that dire warning about britain being on course for the worst and sharpest recession in its history, i think, very much. so, there will be a five tier warning system. five tiers is a lot, isn't it? likely terror threat level. joe, the thing about the slogan that we appear to be giving up slogan that we appear to be giving up stay at home, it might be very reductive, but it is very clear, at least? it is a binary thing, you stay at home or you don't stay at home. "stay alert" has many shades of grey. so from a public opinion point of view, it's very difficult. at the same time, the government was in the easiest bit of the situation previously. exiting is now far more difficult. their messaging needs to be more nuanced, it needs to be more complicated. but in being more nuanced and complicated, it becomes more difficult to implement. as was
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said, what does stay alert mean? does that mean you can go out and stay alert? 0r does that mean you can go out and stay alert? or does that mean you have to be at home and stay alert? yes, there is a five point system for determining just how much risk we may or may not be in, but, again, that assumes that people are paying ongoing attention to such things. and disseminating that kind of information may not be as straightforward as the government may help. but what else can they do? the sunday times, they are saying the prime minister has very limited room for manoeuvre. scientists are warning that there could be 100,000 dead if the uk eases too fast. all of these restrictions, if that were to be true, that we have gone through in the last few weeks, would have been... well, not a waste of time, but you wonder what it would have achieved? the difficulty that we have at the moment is that every outcome will cost lives. and, really, there is no getting away
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from that. scientists have reported in the sunday times that getting this wrong, walking this delicate type rope and falling, if you like, in political terms, would mean 100,000 people, potentially, dying. of course, recessions and great economic slumps cost lives as well. and so, the government really has to balance those two considerations and try to find a path between the two. and it is extraordinary difficult today. you want to minimise the loss of life through both, as far as you can. but, in doing so, you run the risk that you may inadvertently ensure that lives are lost, surging in one direction or the other. staying with the sunday times, the queen to leave public stage for months. clearly she is staying at home, it looks like it will be windsor castle. having to follow that advice, if for no other reason than her age? indeed. so, normally,
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service would be resumed on her majesty would come back to westminster, come back to her london official home, buckingham palace. that will not be the case. she will continue to stay in windsor castle. she has been there since early march. indeed, there are no events in herdiary at march. indeed, there are no events in her diary at all. even in the autumn, there are just two state visits a year and there was supposed to be one, a south africa visit taking place, a state visit. that is on hold. certainly the public, but also once the queen goes for her summer holiday, to balmoral, gets to see the world over, if and when we get tourists, there will be no opening of buckingham palace this summer. so, it is clear that covid—19 is having a huge effect. and the sunday times talks about what a blow it is for her majesty, because one of her things is that
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she says that she needs to be seen to be believed. now, i think that her addresses to the nation, that are few and far between, have been extremely well crafted and delivered, succinct, focused, and they never give up, she is clearly not so blue that gives up easily. will we see more addresses to the nation, as she seeks to be present in that sense? but it is clear that william and kate are being present, asa william and kate are being present, as a few other members of the royal family are, through video conference. i was expecting that we might see more of the queen in that way. let's go back to the sunday telegraph, joe. a couple of stories here to do with how britain is handling the tests and also the protective equipment. laboratory issues force the government to send virus tests to the united states,
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a p pa re ntly virus tests to the united states, apparently 50,000 test samples have had to be sent to the us, and goggles have been recalled after a 16 million of them failed safety tests, after those gowns from turkey we re tests, after those gowns from turkey were deemed not fit for purpose. all of which adds pressure on matt hancock, the health secretary? the polling has been very clear on this, the public believe we are not testing enough people and we are not providing off ppe for health care professionals. that data has been very clear and consistent. it is stories like this that simply reinforce the view is that the public have, that the government are, in this respect, not performing on the way that people expect, and the way the people would hope. the story of these tiger eyes goggles that were ordered in 2019, 16 million of that were ordered in 2019,16 million of them don't pass british standards. so, they cannot be used because they may put health care professionals at risk. so, they will have to be replaced, at a time, of
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course, when nhs trusts up and down the country are desperate for ppe equipment, in so many cases. and then when we have the issue of testing, there are reports that some 50,000 tests were flown by charter flight 50,000 tests were flown by charter flight out of stansted airport to the united states for testing. now, the united states for testing. now, the united states has its own very interesting problems with testing. but they appear to be testing at least 50,000 of hours. the suggestion is that this is something to do with problems with testing in northern ireland. given that the government has very publicly set this target of 100,000 tests a day, having to send 50,000 to the united states just having to send 50,000 to the united statesjust on one occasion, that highlights the difficulty they are in. and all of these things, testing, health care professionals health, and ppe are going to be hugely important as part of the slow and gradual process away from full
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lockdown that we are in. contact tracing testing, these are hugely, hugely important if the country is to move on. if the country is to move on, indeed. the observer, no return to work until you feel safe, unions telljohnson. a lot of of these unions, the gmb, unison, unite, they have lost some essential workers because they kept going to workers because they kept going to work during the crisis? this is a letter that has been sent to the 0bserver by these leaders of unison, unite, the gmb, together with the tuc, to mentionjust a unite, the gmb, together with the tuc, to mention just a few. unite, the gmb, together with the tuc, to mentionjust a few. they wa nt to tuc, to mentionjust a few. they want to play, and need to play, they're part of the easing of the lockdown, and eventually the ending, dare we say it, of the lockdown. in this letter, they won the prime minister, borisjohnson, this letter, they won the prime minister, boris johnson, that this letter, they won the prime minister, borisjohnson, that they will not recommend a return to work
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for their 3 million members. —— they warn the prime minister. until the government and employers agree a nationwide health and safety revolution, no less, as a result of this pandemic. 0ne revolution, no less, as a result of this pandemic. one can understand and see why they would be very, very concerned for a premature return. so, they need to sit down and hammer a nationwide agreement. interestingly, if i just a nationwide agreement. interestingly, if ijust compare my other country, france, the lockdown is due to start on monday. i don't know if that is the way the british government eventually will choose to go down, but there are red zones where the lockdown will continue, green zones where the lockdown will continue, green zones where where the lockdown will continue, green zones where the lockdown will be eased, all very cautiously, as we gather will be the case here in the united kingdom, whatever the prime minister announces tomorrow night. and, of course, when you also look at germany and the article in the sunday telegraph, there may be local spikes, and it would be very interesting and important on how
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ministers and the government decides here in the uk to have either differing zones or certainly being able to address very quickly spikes. right now, the unions are extremely exercised and do not believe that they can recommend the plans as they stand. hello? have we lost the connection? can you hear me? i can hear you. can you hear me, joe?|j couldn't hear you. for a brief moment, we were muted. you can now, i assume? no, i am using the force. read my lips. roads near schools to be closed at peak times. we are being encouraged to walk and cycle more, and not use our cars. but if the schools reopen, you have to get your children there somehow, and
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pa rents a re your children there somehow, and parents are already harried by weeks of home—schooling? parents are already harried by weeks of home-schooling? when you are trying to enforce social distancing, telling people they could not drive to the school gates, might hamper that for some people. in the longer term, it probably is a good idea to get kids, to a lesser extent parents, and walking. what you may haveis parents, and walking. what you may have is that you just get people driving to the edge of the zone and then walking the last little bit. you're just moving the problem? then walking the last little bit. you're just moving the problem7m they are able to do that two metres apart, that is another matter. lots of questions, whatever they announce tomorrow. don't go too far. well, you can't, i know. we will see you again at 11.30. thank you very much. that's it for the papers this hour. benedicte and joe will be back at 11.30 for another look at the papers. coming up next it's click.
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shall i, shan't i, shall i, shan't i? maybe not just now. gotta happen soon, though, hasn't it? welcome, hope you're well. laura is online too. how are you, mate? i'm good, thanks! i tried to edit out my roots before posting a picture on social media yesterday. laughter. didn't work — had to give up! your hair is going to get crazy soon, isn't it? listen, i've got something to cover up that hair if you're interested. take a look at this. 0h goodness, that looks a bit dramatic! yeah, it is a thermal imaging helmet. now the idea is it can quickly screen people to check for fever. it's already being used in china, but the company now says they are talking to governments and police forces across the uk,
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europe, and the middle east. it looks quite menacing — but impressive if it does the job. yes, and around the world, companies and governments are looking at testing people's temperatures to try and spot those who might have covid—19. vodafone is another company that is rolling out thermal imaging with a camera which can scan up to eight people at a time. they say it is accurate to within 0.3 celsius. but the question is — how useful is reading people's temperatures in stopping the spread of the coronavirus? people have variable core body temperatures. so the range is between 36.5—37.5 celsius. but there is some variability here, so that data itself might not be that useful. second, there is an increasing amount of evidence showing that a larger number of people are asymptomatic. so even if you do not develop a fever, then you can still go on to infect others.
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it is very possible to have false positives and to miss people coming through. however, we think we will catch or identify enough people that it is still a valuable tool to add to our toolkit for creating a safe working environment while we wait for a vaccine for covid—19. so instead ofjust taking a one—off temperature measurement, you could look at taking continuous ones — and even add data from other vital signs too. in fact, that's just what this trial is doing. lichtenstein, a principality with a population of only 38,000, is piloting a programme to fit its citizens with biometric bracelets in a drive to track potential cases of covid—19 in real time. we tried to find, like,
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kind of a signature of this disease by measuring parameters of the human body that could give us an early indication if there is a second wave coming. the bracelet measures the heartbeat, the skin temperature, and some other parameters that can be easily measured on the wrist. but these bracelets are not a new product, and actually have a surprising origin. it's really a solution for couples who are trying to get pregnant. so through the device, you are measuring different physiological parameters, and based on those physiological parameters, we can detect the fertile window. then when covid started to arrive, we realised that the combination of the parameters that you are measuring could be — basically they were uniquely suited to look at covid and basically monitoring the infection. and we have a couple of other countries and larger projects that
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are also interested, so we might make this study part of a larger study in the end, and it would roll out europe—wide. however, the roll—out of biometric bracelets across europe may not be straightforward. health data is particularly sensitive data. so it has a higher level of protection. you can only process it on a member state basis if you have a strong legal basis provided by law to do that. so it might even be possible that some eu laws would need to adopt a new law allowing for the processing of the data. and in belgium, there is a very different type of wristband being introduced at the port of antwerp. when corona started, we had this idea where we said, "hey, wait a minute. we already do measuring between a device and a machine.
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couldn't we just measure distance between two devices?" now we can also provide social distancing capabilities using the same technology, where the wearer gets a vibration when he or she comes to close — they need to step back to get out of the "dangerous zone". the bracelet could also be activated for contact tracing — but privacy is an objection. prior to covid—19, everybody thought, "my privacy is the starting point of everything" in every debate. well, that's not really the case any more if you have to make sure that everybody stays healthy, right? however, the introduction of this technology has worried trade unions. you have to understand how unions work and think. and if they do not fully understand what this is as a piece of technology and what it provides, and where the benefits are fortheir members, they object by definition, right?
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and i think that is a mistake some of the companies make, saying, "you cannot implement this technology without taking the time to explain what this is for and what the benefits are." across the world, companies are recognising that their products can be repurposed in the battle against covid—19. however, as governments increasingly look to technology as a solution, ethical and legal boundaries are starting to be tested. now a lot of us are, of course, working from home at the moment, and as well as trying to perfect your background for video calls, a lot of us are having to put up with things like this... dog barks. or this... alarm rings. yeah, i'm often trying to compete with the washing machine's fast spin cycle, i have to say! well chris fox has been trying to find ways to be heard
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above the background noise. today, i'm on a mission to make as much noise as possible to see whether machine—learning can clean up ouraudio. you might have seen online, a lot of gamers are really excited that nvidia, the graphics card maker, is testing some noise cancelling technology. it's called rtx voice, and to try it out, i have a professional microphone here and a high—end gaming laptop with an nvidia rtx graphics card. and on this side, i have an ordinary laptop running some software called crisp, which says it can do the same thing without the expensive graphics card. the first test is a noisy city apartment. i've left the doors open so we can hear the trains going past. the washing machine is on and, for good measure, this speaker is blasting out the sound of a dog barking. ok, i can heara train going past now. so let's turn on the noise cancellation... and what nvidia says it's doing
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here is using al on the graphics card on a bit of spare capacity you may not be using while gaming to do the noise cancellation. 0k, we have a train going past. so, same experiment again — let's turn on the noise cancellation — there's the dog. and how does the laptop fare without the graphics card? this is just a software ai running on an ordinary laptop. next, we will test in a coffee shop. and since i can't go to a real one, i'm playing crowd noise from this speaker, we are using the coffee machine and playing some music from the speaker — all while i read the blurb on claire from steps' autobiography. "claire richards has been an extraordinary roller coaster journey since shejoined steps at 19. after the highs of chart—topping success and the fame that brought, her life hit rock bottom when she left the band. but she fought her way back to create a whole new career in television, finding her inner strength along the way.
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now she's finally ready to bare it all." round three is total chaos. i'm using a hair dryer and a vacuum cleaner, and there's an alarm going off — all while i read the introduction to the bbc‘s royal charter. "royal charter — for the continuance of the british broadcasting corporation. elizabeth ii, by the grace of god of the united kingdom of great britain and northern ireland..." "royal charter — the continuance of the british broadcasting corporation. elizabeth ii, by the grace of god of the united kingdom of great britain and northern ireland..." well, let's talk to davit baghdasaryan from crisp. my first question is, are you using your noise—cancelling tech? because we will be listening for every bit of background noise. yeah, absolutely, it is always turned on on my laptop. but let me clap and demonstrate. you won't hear anything. now we have thrown a lot at the software today,
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and it did a really good job — although with some of the louder noises, it did make the voice sound a bit processed. is that something you're working on? we have a number of technologies we are working on right now. and at some point, it's going to start adapting to your voice. and it'll be, like, way more amazing than this demo, actually. now both crisp and rtx voice work really well on a laptop with pretty much any video calling app you could want. but you are much more limited on android and i0s smartphones. so are you hoping to partner with individual apps? we are doing those very strategically. we are very careful who we are partnering with. we did partner with discord, for example, and now crisp is powering 200 million users when they do, like, voice communication. so we think that was a great partnership and we are very proud of that. i've really thrown a lot at both of these systems today, using deliberate background noise. but both of them have done a pretty good job of cleaning it up,
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even under extreme circumstances. now nvidia is keen to point out that its system is just a test at the moment. but for gamers who already have those high—end rtx graphics cards, it is a nice extra feature to have and should stop annoying background noise getting into your voice chat when gaming online. and for everybody else, software like crisp can help clean up our voice calls and video calls if you can't convince your housemates to be quiet. chris fox, coming through loud and clear! and that's it for the short cut of click for this week. please do try to check out the full length version, there's so much more great stuff in there — and you will find that on iplayer. you'll find us on social media throughout the week, youtube, facebook, instagram, and twitter at @bbcclick. thanks for watching, and we will see you soon.
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hello. it's hard to overstate just how different our weather will be by the end of sunday, certainly in the feel of things out there as it turns much colder across the uk. the cold accentuated by a strengthening wind as well. more cloud around, too, the chance of seeing a bit of rain. sunday begins with the cold air already in place in scotland, and then it surges south across the uk. cold arctic air coming our way, so very different from what we've had. now, these are the temperatures to start the day. already frosty across northern scotland, even a bit of snow lying to relatively low levels in some spots. icy in places, too. and yarly ran towards southern scotland and northern ireland will gradually clear away, and over scotland and northern ireland into the afternoon, it's sunny spells, a few wintry showers peppering northern scotland. cloud and some patchy spreads south across england and wales. a chance, too, of seeing a bit of rain just brushing the far
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south east, sussex and kent in particular, maybe the odd heavy shower for the channel islands and the far south west. now, the winds are picking up all the while as the cold air moves south, gusting 30—110 mph, even a bit stronger towards north sea coasts and through the english channel later in the day. and temperatures to end the day in the range mainly of 6—10 degrees celsius, feeling colder in the wind. and even towards the south, where you end the day still with temperatures towards the high teens, the cold air does move in during sunday evening. and it's largely clear overnight and into monday morning bringing one or two wintry showers towards some north sea coasts. and temperature stepping away to give on monday morning a widespread frostjust away from some windier spots across parts of eastern and southern england. and on monday, there will be some sunny spells around, but still the brisk and cold wind, still a chance of seeing a few showers that could be wintry in nature towards northern and eastern scotland along some north sea coasts. temperatures look as if they've come up a little bit on monday, but particularly in that wind,
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it will still feel cold, and especially compared with what it's been like out there. high pressure close by throughout the week ahead, but the air still coming in from a chilly direction. frosty nights at least to start the week, so gardeners and growers take note. the cold wind will gradually ease. temperatures edge up a little bit, but still getting nowhere near where they've been.
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this is bbc news, with the latest headlines for viewers in the uk and around the world. lockdown will only be eased with "extreme caution" says the uk government — but with the bank holiday sunshine prompting busy scenes in the nation's parks, a cabinet minister urges patience. moving beyond covid—19 will be a gradual process and not a single lea p to gradual process and not a single leap to freedom so when we do and marriage, the world will seem quite different. it comes as british airlines call for clarity — after plans are announced for a 14—day quarantine for passengers arriving to the uk. "an absolute chaotic disaster" — president donald trump's handling of the coronavirus pandemic is slammed by his predecessor ba rack 0bama

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