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tv   The Week in Parliament  BBC News  May 10, 2020 2:30pm-3:01pm BST

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hello this is bbc news. i'm tim willcox. the headlines: borisjohnson says people should "stay at home as much as possible" ahead of outlining a road map towards easing lockdown restrictions in england. but the government is forced to defend its decision to update its core message for england — after accusations the slogan "stay alert" is confusing. airlines say they've had "no clarity" from the government on the future of the industry after holding talks earlier today. it follows reports a m day quarantine would be introduced for all passengers arriving into the uk. president trump's handling of the pandemic is called a "chaotic disaster" by his predecessor, barack obama. and south korea's president warns of a second wave of infection,
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as a new cluster of cases is confirmed. now on bbc news, we take a look back at the week in parliament. hello again, and welcome to the week in parliament, a week when the uk's pandemic death toll became the highest in europe. a returning prime minister admitted the scale of the crisis. there's an epidemic going on in care homes which is something i bitterly regret. a labour mp fresh from the hospital ward shared her own experience. front line workers, like me,
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have had to watch families break into pieces as we deliver the very worst of news to them. and how much will the pandemic cost professional sport? if you don't want to know the score, look away now. we are heading for a financial hole of about £200 million by the end of september — a cash hole. all that to come and more, but first, we may be past the peak of the coronavirus outbreak, but no country outside the united states has a higher death toll than the uk. as the overall figure continued to climb, the government continue to miss its own target of 100,000 tests a day. borisjohnson told mps he bitterly regretted the epidemic in care homes and found shortages of personal protective equipment "enraging". in his first appearance in the commons for six weeks, the prime minister also signalled plans to ease some of the lockdown measures in england from monday. since he last faced mps,
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borisjohnson has been seriously ill with coronavirus and become a father again. the speaker was pleased to see him. i would like to welcome the prime minister back to his rightful place in the chamber. the whole house and the whole country is delighted at his recovery and welcome him back to his elected house. i now call the prime minister to answer his engagement question. mr speaker, thank you for your kind words and it is good to be back even though i've been away for longer than i had intended. it was the first time borisjohnson also had faced sir keir starmer at question time. they were congratulations on the birth of his child, but the pleasantries were soon over. when the prime minister returned to work a week ago monday, he said that many people were looking at the apparent success of the government's approach. but yesterday we learned, tragically, that at least 29,427 people in the uk have now lost their lives to this dreadful virus.
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that's now the highest number in europe. it's the second highest in the world. that's not success or apparent success so can the prime minister tell us how on earth did it come to this? mr speaker, first of all, of course every death is a tragedy and he is right to draw attention to the appalling statistics not just in this country, but of course around the world. and i think i would echo really in answer to his question what we heard from professor david spiegelhouser and others that at this stage, at this stage, i don't think that international comparisons and the data is yet there to draw the conclusions that we want. mr speaker, the argument that the international comparisons
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can't really be made when the government has been using slides like this for weeks to do international comparisons really does not hold water. i'm afraid that many people are concluding that the answer to my question is the uk were slow into lockdown, slow on testing, slow on tracing and slow on the supply of protective equipment. i want to go to yesterday's figures that show whilst happily in hospitals it looks as though deaths are falling, deaths in care homes continue to go up. at the press covered last night, the deputy chief scientific advisor said what this shows us is that there is a real issue that we need to get to grips with in relation to what is happening in care homes. i couldn't agree more. but 12 weeks after the health secretary declared that we are in a health crisis, i have to ask the prime minister why hasn't the government not got to grips with this? actually, he is quite right of course to look at the crisis in care homes and he is right to say that there is an epidemic
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going on in care homes, which is something i bitterly regret and we've been working very hard for weeks to get it down. the prime minister said in the last few days there had been an improvement in care homes. mr speaker, on the 30th of april, the government claimed success in meeting its 100,000 test a day target. since then, as the prime minister knows, the number has fallen back. on monday, there were just 84,000 tests and that meant 24,000 available tests were not used. what does the prime minister think was so special about the 30th of april that meant that testing that day was so high? yes, he's right that capacity currently exceeds demand. we're working on that and running at about 100,000 a day. but the ambition clearly is to get up to 200,000 a day by the end of this month and then to go even higher.
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keir starmer welcomed the new target but said it was no replacement for a strategy. he turned to shortages of personal productive equipment, or ppe. we're clearly going to need a very robust national plan for protective equipment. can the prime minister reassure the public that they won't be asked to return to work until that plan is in place? yes, mr speaker, i certainly can. and i share his frustration about ppe and the frustration that i think people have felt across the house and across the country. it has been enraging to see the difficulties that we have had in supplying ppe to those who need it. earlier in the week, the speaker sir lindsay hoyle had rebuked the prime minister for planning to announce changes to the lockdown on sunday. not to mps, but to the tv cameras. borisjohnson explained why. we want, if we possibly can, to get going with some of these measures on monday,
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and i think it will be a good thing, mr speaker, if people had an idea what is coming the following day and that's why i think sunday at the weekend is the best time to do it. and the speaker said hopefully in the future he comes to mps first. the snp's westminster leader from his home on skye also fired a warning shot. we understand the prime minister will be making a televised address on sunday concerning the easing of lockdown. this cannot be undertaken without the full input and cooperation of all our evolved governments. we must end this period of mixed messaging from the uk government. will the prime minister commit today that the substance of his address will be fully agreed to with the devolved nations so that all of our governments continue with this vitally important work of saving lives? borisjohnson told him he would do his level best to ensure the outlines of the plan would attract the widest possible consensus. but there was little consensus across the chamber earlier in the week, when labour's
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new shadow health minister, who's a doctor, swapped the a&e ward for the front bench. front line workers like me have had to watch families break into pieces as we deliver the very worst of news to them. that the ones they love most in this world have died. the testing strategy has been nonexistent. community testing was scrapped, mass testing was slow to roll out and testing figures are now being manipulated. does the secretary of state commit to a minimum of 100,000 tests each day going forward? and does secretary of state acknowledge that many front line workers feel that the government's lack of testing has cost lives and is responsible for many families being unnecessarily torn apart in grief? no, mr speaker, idon't.
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i welcome the honourable lady to her post as part of the shadow health team. i think she might do well to take a leaf out of the shadow secretary of state's book in terms of tone. i'm afraid what she said is not true. there has been a rapid acceleration in testing across, over the last few months in this country, including getting to 100,000 tests a day. we've been entirely transparent on the way that that has been measured throughout. and i have confidence that the rate will continue to rise. currently, capacity is 108,000 a day and we are working to build that higher. matt hancock. the greatest pressure on borisjohnson to ease the lockdown has come from his own mps. several used a debate on the regulations to warn ministers about the economic impact of the "stay home, protect the nhs, "save lives" message. the eerily silent streets
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of our major cities may be a key part of keeping us all safe. but at what cost to our long—term financial health and our sense of well—being ? ministers say the lockdown measures have been proportionate and appropriate. but one senior conservative said the public may have been a little too willing to comply with what he said were arbitrary rules and limitations on freedom. we have today the healthiest, most active elderly generation of all time and it would be tragic if government threatens this by trying to extend a so—called lockdown for those judged to be most at risk based on age. why don't we just give them the best information and advice and let them limit their risk for themselves? we need to have a frank, open and honest debate about the ethics of trading lives tomorrow to save lives today. the chief medical officer has made it perfectly clear
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that there are people who are going to die of cancer who otherwise wouldn't have died of cancer because of this lockdown. now, it may well be after that debate we do decide that this is a terrible trade we want to make. but we need to have that discussion, both as a parliament and a country. steve baker. another tory believed that the rules were absurd, dystopian, and tyrannical. there have been very severe, absurd problems arising because the police have sought to enforce rules which are not actually law. for example, the law in england does not specify that people may not drive to exercise. and there are people i know who've stayed at home because they need to drive a short distance from a place where they can't exercise to one where they can. people have been accused, for example, of not sweating adequately when cycling. they've been accused of when performing yoga of not exercising, these things are absurd and wrong and worrying
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to law—abiding people. steve baker — last of a trio of english conservative mps there. but, of course, scotland, wales, and northern ireland have their own policies although up to now, there has been a four nations approach to the crisis. now, a little bit of history has been made in cardiff bay. we are meeting for the first time as members of the senedd cymru in the welsh parliament, a name now reflecting our role as our nation's democratic parliament. but whilst our name may have formally changed today, our priority remains the same as it has done all over the past weeks — responding to the coronavirus crisis. now more than ever, our citizens expect a strong national parliament working in the interests of the people of wales. after 21 years of devolution, the national assembly of wales is now known as senedd cymru — or the welsh parliament. assembly members now members
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of the senedd — or ms‘. but as in other parliaments, the pandemic dominates question time. it is clear that the virus is having the greatest impact on those with the fewest resources. it will deepen the inequalities already entrenched by a decade of austerity. and this impact may be more intense in wales, due to the age profile of our population and the higher level of deprivation in some of our communities. the first minister was questioned over plans to extend testing in care homes. last week you told us there was no clinical value in extending the tests further and yet clearly that clinical value has now been found. you know that i've raised this issue with the chief medical officer but the people of wales deserve to know what new clinical evidence the welsh government has actually received? plaid cymru want to test for residents of smaller care homes too. isn't the reason why you are not applying that policy to smaller care homes is because you don't have the available testing
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which means you don't have the capacity for testing every home? adam price in the parliament formally known as the welsh assembly. in edinburgh, the first minister warned that the progress in reducing deaths was still too fragile to lift the lockdown in any significant way. for the moment, the message remains clear, please stay at home except for essential purposes, say more than two metres from other people when you are out, don't meet up with people from other households, wear a face covering if you are in a shop or on public transport, and isolate completely if you or someone else in your household has symptoms. if we all stick with it for a bit longer, we will i am sure see more progress and we will bring forward the moment when some of these restrictions can start to be eased. the conservatives questioned plans to reduce the rate of infection. yesterday's scottish government paper was clear that getting the r
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number down was the priority and that relies as we go forward on testing and tracing. however, testing numbers are still falling short of last week's target. so, we are understandably at least a little bit sceptical about the government's promise to recruit 2000 contact tracers in the next four weeks. more than half the latest scottish coronavirus deaths were in care homes. in just the last week, the covid—19 outbreak at the home farm care home on the isle of skye has tragically demonstrated how rapidly and widely this virus can spread in care homes. it has also brought home the importance of testing all care home residents and all care home staff. not just those who are symptomatic. richard leonard. at stormont, northern ireland's economy minister told mlas that she had warned uk government ministers that mass redundancies could happen if there job retention scheme was ended suddenly. under the scheme, which is due
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to finish at the end ofjune, the state pays 80% of the wages of workers who've been furloughed or temporarily laid off. we cannot and should not expect government to continue to intervene in the way that it currently is but neither can we have the cliff edge and therefore mass redundancies that that might bring if the job retention scheme is suddenly cut at a particular point. i am comforted, i think is the word, by some of the words from the chancellor. i think they recognise the particular issue. but certainly from the conversations i have had with local companies, i think it would be very difficult to have a very stark cut off date for that scheme. a former northern ireland secretary has called for elections to the stormont assembly be postponed for a year because of the coronavirus crisis. power—sharing was only restored injanuary after a deal was reached
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to end three years of deadlock. elections are due in may 2022. julian smith, who was sacked during a cabinet reshuffle in february, was appearing before the northern ireland committee. i do think as a result of the covid crisis, there is an argument that should be carefully considered to extending the mandate of this assembly by a year. the elections currently are due in less than a couple of years and i do think it is in everybody‘s interest that we get all the parties, all the parties who that took part in this deal, to work together for a good three years and deliver for the people of northern ireland and then to lay out their stall at the next election. i'm just wondering how you would say apart from allowing politicians in the assembly and leaderships
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to try and bond a little bit more and try to get more accustomed to each other's nuances and apart from that, what would you see an extra year as offering? in terms of people wanting to see delivery through stormont? the thing that gave me confidence during this period was listening to both what people were saying and what you and other politicians were hearing in december before the election that people wanted services to work and northern ireland to be working better. and i genuinely think that now we have had this crisis, we do need to provide time to get those things improved, the overarching improvements in health care, they needed to start delivering on the city deals and infrastructure projects. the need to look at education and the education inequality that still remains. the housing deficit and many more areas.
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i think if voters can feel at the end of a decent length of this assembly that these issues are now on track, that allows a more meaningful election. what is your assessment/fear of the impact on the long—term viability of stormont in a no—deal brexit delivery? i probably have blotted my copy books sufficiently about making the point last year that no deal is not in the interests of northern ireland — i don't think it's in the interest of the united kingdom or of the eu. that comes from having had national security responsibility for northern ireland and seeing how, even though there's been huge improvements in security, there are still major challenges around the border, but it also comes
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from a strong belief in my mind that the relationship with ireland for the uk has held and the relationship with the eu that has to evolve as a result of a practical approach to concluding brexit and that is in the best interests of everybody. julian smith. the jaw—dropping cost of the pandemic to professional sport in the uk was revealed to mps. it's almost two months since football was suspended and for clubs in the english football league outside the premier league, the bill could be £200 million. mps on digital culture media and sport committee discover that the cost of cricket could be almost twice that with rugby also facing losses of more than £100 million. they heard first from the boss of the efl. worst case scenario, after say 12 months as we come out
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of this covid—19 situation, how many football clubs in the efl could we lose as a result, worst case scenario? it's a difficult question to answer. our objective is to try to make sure we lose none. we want to emerge stronger, leaner, more efficient to have a proper reset post—covid. we are heading for a financial hole of about £200 million by the end of september — a cash hole which we will need to fill. and clubs are stacking up creditors. we have a great deal of uncertainty around next season, of course, the great undetermined matter being when we will be playing in front of crowds which for the efl is absolutely critical. we are much more dependent on revenue and indeed we are much more dependent on the atmosphere generated by crowds potentially than the premier league.
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cricket is also facing a shortfall of £380 million, with no matches scheduled before july at the earliest. if i tell you that a fast bowler will need 6—7 weeks from now having been in lockdown at home for a period of time, it's six or seven weeks before that bowler is fit and ready to take the field in an international match. that's just the training elements. obviously, you have got all the other which is what elements including bringing overseas teams over and providing the same level of preparation for overseas teams. it is a very complex scenario but with a following wind, we hope to play a significant number of test matches this summer which will help us mitigate those financial losses that we are facing at the moment. and it could take rugby yea rs to recover.
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we will have a reduction in revenue to 15 million for the end of our financial year in june and we're looking at three scenarios to the end of every year in 2021. if the autumn internationals go ahead in november, which are key revenue generators for us, but we're assuming certain declines in spectator attendance, but if the autumn internationals go ahead, we will still lose something like 32 million in revenue through to the end of the next year. if the internationals go ahead but behind closed doors, that would be a negative impact of 85 million. if the gains are cancelled entirely, it will be a 107 million on top of the 15 million we have already lost. it's a big loss in revenue. and the mps are told that uk sport is also asking the government for money to help with the cost of the postponed 0lympic and paralympic games. now, should members of the house of lords be forced to retire when they reach the age of 65? the sunday times reported that the government was considering the idea.
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the house of lords currently has 811 members, with an average age of 70. the paper's report led to an urgent question from a conservative peer who coincidentally turned 65 at the end of last year. what has been done by the government to rebut the sunday times report that ministers are examining whether they could retire every member of this house over the age of 65 and that we are all so old that there is no prospect of us doing ourjob? and will the government name the whitehall source responsible for this false and malicious briefing? and, if not known, invite the cabinet secretary investigate and if identified by him, ensure that they are summarily dismissed? there is no substance in this story. and i repeat that to the house. it's not the intent of government to introduce such a policy. a firm rebuttal from lord true, who happens to be 68. now as we saw there, the advent of the virtual parliament
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has given voters a chance to look through the keyhole of the homes of mps and peers. who would live in a house like this? probably sir desmond swayne. the right honourable gentleman, with probably the most spectacular backdrop to any question in this session... and sirjohn hayes has not only his own bat, but a large collection of cricket books. pete wishart can boast a platinum disc or two from his musical career. many mps chose book shelves as their backdrop, but michael gove did prompt some book shaming on social media for owning a book by a controversial historian. some politicians have even been accused of opting for the book shelfie just to show off. not something we would ever do on the week in parliament. thank you for watching. i'll be back on bbc parliament on monday night at 11pm with the latest from the commons and the lords. until then, bye for now.
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hello, there. 0ur big weather cooldown is well under way. yesterday, we had temperatures as high as 25 celsius, with summer—like heat across the south. today, it's been winter—like cold that we have had across northern areas. the snow coming down in showers across the north of scotland, in moray, and further north, in shetland, the snow has been settling on some of the grassy hills, would you believe it. hard to believe it's may, isn't it? but this colder air continues to stream southwards overnight, with a continued risk of a few showers. wintry at times across northern scotland. it's going to be a cold night, cold enough for some patches of frost, particularly in scotland, potentially in some rural areas elsewhere, where the winds manage to fall light. tomorrow, there will be some sunshine around.
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but, again, showers across northern scotland and a few coming down the north sea to affect some of our eastern coastal areas of england too. some spells of sunshine, but a cool day everywhere. not quite as cold, though, across the far north of scotland. that's your latest weather.
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this is bbc news with the latest headlines for viewers in the uk and around the world. borisjohnson says people should "stay alert" as he prepares to lay out his roadmap for lifting restrictions in england, but his government faces criticism the message is confusing. so "stay alert" will mean stay alert by staying home as much as possible but stay alert when you do go out by maintaining social distancing, washing your hands, respecting others in the workplace and the other settings that you'll go to. and this is the scene in edinburgh where nicola sturgeon will give an update on scotland's response to coronavirus shortly —

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