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tv   The Papers  BBC News  May 10, 2020 11:30pm-11:46pm BST

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minister outlines a 3—step plan to boost the economy, schools and social life. if there are problems, we will not hesitate to put on the brakes. we've been through the initial peak, but it's coming down the mountain that is often more dangerous. from june, schools in england could see a partial reopening starting at primary level but most secondary pupils won't return before september. and measures to make the workplace safe as the government urges people to return to work if they can't work from home. hello and welcome to our look—ahead to what the papers will be bringing us tomorrow. with me are tony grew, parliamentary journalist and caroline frost, journalist and broadcaster.
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tomorrow's front pages, starting with ‘the long road to freedom' reads the front page of the telegraph, after borisjohnson set out a roadmap for lifting the lockdown in england earlier this evening. according to the front of the daily mail, the prime minister is keeping ‘the handbrake on‘, making just small changes initially — encouraging some people to return to work, and allowing people to exercise as much as they like, and to sunbathe. the times describes the plan as the ‘first, tentative steps to reopening society', after the prime minister said the time has come to begin restarting the economy. the ft lays out in more detail how britain might begin to return to work, as the pm urges workers in fields like construction to return. ‘it‘s all greek to us, boris‘ reads the metro — which reports on what it calls ‘confusion‘ over the change of government slogan from ‘stay at home‘ to ‘stay alert‘. ‘ready, steady, slow‘ on the front of the sun — reporting on the pm‘s 3—step plan to ease restrictions. on the front page of the i, a suggestion that millions could return to work following the prime minister‘s
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announcements, as well as the potential for some pubs and restaurants to open as early as july. and the guardian describes the pm‘s statement as leaving the country ‘confused and divided‘ — as scotland, wales and northern ireland reject number 10‘s new messaging. lets begin. we begin with the metro. it is all greek to us, boris. which language did you read it in?” suppose it was english. obviously there has been bemused and forehead eyebrow since that‘s 7pm statement and much of that has been focused on nicola sturgeon ‘s reaction. she went first and she has made it clear that whatever the london—based government of the uk may do she has different ideas when it comes to scotland. she says she does not know what the phrase stay alert means so she is following her own scientist
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and instincts as far as scotland is concerned which means not changing much apart from more time allowed for physical exercise and going out for physical exercise and going out for that full she is aware of perhaps the mental health burden to deal with as well, trying to balance different things so that is what she is sticking with for now as our wales and northern ireland. tony, do you know what stay alert means? no. noido you know what stay alert means? no. no i do not. i have a sense that the government want to change the messaging that the uk government not the scottish welsh and northern ireland governments. part of that i think, the stay—at—home save lives and protect the nhs messaging has been more effective than the uk government fought it would be. part of the problem now is that the uk government will need to now encourage people in england back to work. there has been no material change in terms of the regulations that were passed through the house of commons before the crisis hit. people have always been able to go
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to work if they could not work from home and going to work as a reasonable excuse to be out on the street. so this is part of the process of trying to encourage people back to work but unless schools are open that will pose a significant challenge for many parents. looking now at the guardian. the pm‘s lockdown list leaves the country confused undivided. boris johnson says leaves the country confused undivided. borisjohnson says he is encouraging people to go to work. he said that in the next question is how can someone said that in the next question is how can someone go said that in the next question is how can someone go to work if they do not have a car, if they cannot walk to it and public transport is not yet safe? there are many caveats to the statement. he has left himself a lot of leeway. he said go to work if you can do not use public transport. if you have a car than that could mean you qualify for staying at home work which i don‘t know if that means you are now a key worker and if that has consequences for schooling challenges. there are many things to be ironed out and
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hopefully we will get more clarity tomorrow when he presents this dossier to parliament. the guardian have jumped on the confusion and vagueness. one of the things they highlighted was that you can go to parks and speak to one other person not from your household stop i don‘t know what the difference is between speaking and one and two people, how one keeps you healthy but the other does not. but they are opening the door to a mentality of this not being a permanent state of affairs. tony, earlier you talked about devolution and reminded people about the fact that the nations to control their own affairs and they have their own affairs and they have their own affairs and they have their own chief medical officers. what happens when there is a pandemic that affects the entire nation and yet four nations each have an individual health policy? in this context the uk government is the outlier. the scottish government, the welsh government and the northern irish government, a
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coalition of parties led by the dup and sinn fein, they all have their owi'i and sinn fein, they all have their own chief medical officers and have come to the conclusion that the stay home messages the one they will stick with for the time being. that could be because the rates of infection are different in different parts of the uk and they want to be more cautious than the british government. but the uk government is currently paying the wages of 6 million people in this country so the financial burden on the british taxpayer at this stage is considerably large and the prime minister has two balance the hawks who want to open the economy and the doves who urge caution because of concerns of a second wave. but there is no doubt that it is costing the country an insane amount of money for the prime minister today has come down on the side of the dobbs. the same picture of doris mail mid— speech again on the daily mail. he
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keeps the handbrake on, exercises ok soa keeps the handbrake on, exercises ok so a sunbathing. exercising twice a day is enough for me. i could hand my third portion to someone else. but the idea that primary schools could reopen in june, but the idea that primary schools could reopen injune, is that optimistic when you read about how that may work? it all depends on this fabled r number, the rate of transmission. we know that the office of statistics will publish new figures this week we will not know for certain what effect these new measures will have until later down the line. as tony said, boris johnson is notjustjuggling the needs of society, half of which are happy to follow instruction half of which have their own mind, the economists versus people increasingly the boris johnson economists versus people increasingly the borisjohnson is now aware of. and he is balancing
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those ideals and ideologies as much as just the pound signs. those ideals and ideologies as much asjust the pound signs. i think there is a bit of history of lack of transparency in the government which means we perhaps do not trust them when we could because i don‘t know if he knows anymore than the of us at the moment full of he says he follows the signs and i hope it leads him in the right direction. tony, we introduced you as a parliamentary journalist, tony, we introduced you as a parliamentaryjournalist, he tony, we introduced you as a parliamentary journalist, he is going to parliament on monday. can you describe the kind of confrontations or arguments that may go on within that parliament westerner the house of commons are strange at the moment because of social distancing measurements. there are only ten or 15 mps in the chamberand we there are only ten or 15 mps in the chamber and we saw that at pmq last week when boris johnson chamber and we saw that at pmq last week when borisjohnson did not have an audience to play to and he found that difficult against forensic questioning from the labour leader. this announcement should be made to the house of commons and the reason
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is because when the prime minister makes a statement, he faces questions and scrutiny, notjust from the opposition but his own party that would have been a better way to go about doing this. he could have made this announcement at seven o'clock tomorrow after it had went through that process of speaking to parliament, releasing nation at the same time and allowing mps to do their job same time and allowing mps to do theirjob in scrutinising the government. caroline, two nights ago we watched the queen deliver a speech, her second, and boris gave three orfour speech, her second, and boris gave three or four set speech, her second, and boris gave three orfour set pieces. speech, her second, and boris gave three or four set pieces. when you look at the speeches given by boris johnson and the queen, are their similarities? how would you compare them in the way the messages come across? they have completely different roles. the queen is the chairman of the board and boris johnson is, in theory, the ceo and he has done that on the shop floor directing operations. the queen is remarkable and we are lucky to have her. she was the right person for ve
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day, direct personal connection and she has that gift of scarcity. she seldom comes out and when she does it is powerful. she does not have to talk about figures, pandemics or statistics. she captured the feeling in the centreman. our streets full of love, that statement will resound through the weeks. borisjohnson is a forensically accountable figure and should be held to a slightly different level. whenever we do these, i always try to think of the images that people use. and instead ofa war images that people use. and instead of a war —related metaphor now it is a road. the daily telegraph. the long road to freedom and then the comments article he gave us a roadmap but with only a few vague directions. i was surprised by the turn of the daily telegraph which is notoriously supportive of boris
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johnson and at times it reads more like a fan magazine. but there is criticism and the criticism is about the vague nation in which he announced this. boris johnson wants to bea announced this. boris johnson wants to be a unifier and he has unified the trade unions and business owners and business leaders this evening, both of them saying there is not enough detail about how employers are expected to protect people at work and how people at work are expected to react if they feel their bosses are not doing enough to protect them. hopefully some of this will be sorted out tomorrow 500 page document. the daily telegraph is usually his biggest supporter, as tony just usually his biggest supporter, as tonyjust said. when he picks this up tonyjust said. when he picks this up will he be disappointed? he may feel that with friends like this he does not need enemies. there is one slightly generous caveat in that business will be happy to read what he has in mind because it is going in the right direction. a contrast to the handbrake we heard about in the daily mail. but there is a
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window of change. the telegraph do not want to be a complete outsider in this, that would look like head in sand optimism if they were to carry on about it being a successful weekend. tony, your understanding of business, is it up to them whether or not they can reopen now? in a senseit or not they can reopen now? in a sense it has always been up to them. the government ordered closures of pubs and clubs and restaurants but there are many businesses who potentially could open as long as they have social distancing measures in place and we see some fast food restaurants who are slowly edging towards reopening for delivery only. i think this is about encouraging people. the message that the government sent out, stay home, has been too successful and i think many people are genuinely scared. many people are genuinely scared. many people are genuinely scared. many people are genuinely scared of
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leaving the house and are scared of even coming within two metres of other people. the reassurance part of this message will take two or three weeks to get going and hopefully a few weeks from now we can see a limited reopening of the economy. every bar, club, restaurant and nearly every shop in this country has been closed for weeks. the amount of vat the government must be losing is insane. there are practical considerations as to how the country will function if this continues for months and months rather than weeks and weeks full picking up on that point, was stay—at—home too picking up on that point, was stay—at— home too successful picking up on that point, was stay—at—home too successful and will stay—at—home too successful and will stay alert too successful? it is a wonderful problem to help. communications team have hit the nail on the head. the challenge we have as a nation as we can throw tomatoes that the government and borisjohnson but on some personal level we have to do is decide that we need to wait to hear to the letter exactly what we are required
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to do, or can we assume some sort of self—determination and responsibility? we instinctively know. we might come and pour over what this means but we do look after ourselves and we have a collective risk -- ourselves and we have a collective risk —— social responsibility. i know that phrase seems alien but perhaps this is a time when we learn that lesson of looking after not just ourselves but people further afield. the financialtimes just ourselves but people further afield. the financial times has a slightly different story. permanent reserve force of medics to bolster the nhs. there is an army reserve now, doctors reserve? a doctors reserve made up of retired as who have already done 30 or a0 years service. it is absurd. by 2024, the nhs will be short 200,000 embers of power. the government would be better off trying to focus on recruitment, dropping the nursing bursary, there are many things they could do to staff the nhs rather
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than work on a reserve force. we recruit the retired? we saw it happening aureus or movies and dad‘s army films but i‘m not sure. happening aureus or movies and dad‘s army films but i'm not sure. to try and plaster over the huge wounds left by various cuts made by government, the lesson we have learned is that we have never needed our nhs workers to be on point, trained, motivated and not have a huge turnover that we have recently seen. huge turnover that we have recently seen. and that is the last word. thank you to both of our guests. it‘s the film review next. hello and welcome to the film review with me, mark kermode,

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