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this is outside source on bbc news for viewers in the uk and around the world. we're covering all the latest coronavirus developments here in britain and globally. america's top disease expert warns senators the coronavirus will spread if the country opens up too soon. my concern is that we will start to see little spikes that might turn into outbreaks. the afghan president orders his security forces to resume offensive operations against militant groups after two major attacks kill dozens of people. the british government is extending its coronavirus job
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retention scheme until october, but businesses will be asked to pick up some of the costs. the world health organisation warns the americas are now driving the pandemic and that some countries failed to take its warnings about the disease seriously. the world pays tributes to the foot soldiers in scrubs battling covid—19 for international nurses day. welcome. let's start in the us, where the scientist leading the response to coronavirus has warned the senate of "serious consequences" if the country opens up too soon. dr anthony fauci said there could be new spikes of covid—19 and conceded the number of deaths is likely to be higher than the offical number. here's a little of what he had to say. some areas — cities, states or what have you — jump over those various checkpoints and prematurely open
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up without having the capability of being able to respond effectively and efficiently. my concern is that we will start to see little spikes that might turn into outbreaks, so therefore i have been very clear in my message to try to the best extent possible to go by the guidelines which have been very well thought out and very well delineated. since the outbreak began, dr fauci has become the most high—profile scientist in america, and not always popular with opponents of lockdown. rand paul is a republican senator from kentucky. we're opening up a lot of economies around the us, and i hope that people who are predicting doom and gloom and saying we can't do this, there will be a surge, will admit that there were wrong if there is not a surge if there is not a surge because i think that is what is going to happen. and i think the one—size—fits—all that we are going to have a national strategy and nobody is going to go
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to school is kind of ridiculous. we ought to be doing it school district by school district and the power need to be dispersed because people make wrong predictions. so i think we ought to have a little bit of humility in our belief that we know what's best for the economy and as much as i respect you, doctor fauci, i don't think you're the end all. i don't think you're the one person who gets to make a decision full so we can listen to your advice but the people on the other side saying it is not going to be a surge and we can safely open economy and the facts will bear this out. you used the word we should be humble but we don't know. and i think that falls under the fact that we don't know everything about this virus and we really better be very careful. the plan from the white house is called opening up america again. released last month, it set out some hurdles states should clear before they ease restrictions. they need to show a two—week downward trajectory in either documented cases or the proportion of positive tests before they open up. more than half of us states have now reopened or are about to, but fewer than half are meeting both
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of the standards set by the white house. and some aren't meeting either of them. analysis by the new york times has identified six states which are opening up their economies despite seeing cases of the virus growing and more of their tests coming back positive. in nebraska, the governor, pete ricketts, is a strong supporter of lifting the lockdown. since the state reopened last week, it's reported more than 2600 new cases of covid—i9. 100 people there have now died from the virus. katty kayjoins us from washington. good to see you. what was your reaction to the comments made by anthony fauci? as he previewed his remarks, he did say he thinks the death toll has been higher than the official 80,000 reported because i may have died and we did not know it was covid—i9. he also says he was warning against states opening up too early. and there are these some states are too early. and there are these some states a re not too early. and there are these some states are not meeting the white house guidelines. the key of which is they should have a 14 day period
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where the number of cases is declining and he is concerned that they are not meeting what are called those gateways. you mention nebraska there and there is nebraska, iowa and arkansas, all midwestern states people are particularly worried about where they are seeing on the dash an uptick in the number of infections. we covered their some of the states that are opening up and are eager to, is there still a public appetite to keep the lockdown going in other states and other parts of the country? it is interesting because the public seems to bea interesting because the public seems to be a little bit at odds with the politicians who are pushing to open up politicians who are pushing to open up on this one. opinion poll after poll showing a majority of americans still don't feel safe about going back to work on the evidence in a way is on the ground in states like georgia, texas, tennessee they have already sent it to open up and people are not flooding back into the shops that are open or the restau ra nts the shops that are open or the restaurants that are open. so there is quite a lot of caution amongst
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the public and they also suggested the public and they also suggested the public and they also suggested the public is trusting those public officials and people like doctor fauci more than they are trusting the politicians in a particular more than they trust the white house on this. an interesting disconnect. thank you. back with you in a moment. on monday, president trump clashed with a journalist during the white house briefing after he responded to her question by saying that she should "ask china". weijia jiang attempted to press the president on why he would make that comment to her specifically. why it this a global competition to you if every day americans are still losing their lives and we are still seeing more cases every day? well, they are losing their lives everywhere around the world and maybe that's a question you should ask china. don't ask me, ask china that question, ok? when you ask them that question you may get a very unusual answer. yes, behind you, please.
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sir, why are you saying that to me specifically? i'm not saying it specifically to anybody. i'm saying to anybody that asks a nasty question. that's not a nasty question. please go ahead. ok, anybody else? please, go ahead. it's ok. next, next please. you called on me. i did and you did not respond and now i'm calling on the young lady in the back, please. ladies and gentlemen, thank you very much, appreciate it. thank you very much. so there you have it. katty kay is here again. what has the reaction been to that? this was meant to all be about testing and testing capacity and it was that last one minute of the briefing where the president talked to one reporter about china and then refuse to answer the question of a reporter from refuse to answer the question of a reporterfrom cnn refuse to answer the question of a reporter from cnn and then said refuse to answer the question of a reporterfrom cnn and then said i'm walking off. and that is what has got all the attention and it is
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exactly that kind of incident which has made some of the president's ali suggest to him that these briefings are not doing him any favour and why we switched from those long freewheeling briefing to you and i reported on early on in this in the press briefing room to some of these more specific and effectively press events still but which are meant to be about one particular issue. where the president feels he can still talk to the american people but his allies and advisers say they can do it in allies and advisers say they can do itina allies and advisers say they can do it in a more controlled way except that the last minute of that one degenerated pretty fast and that is what is getting the attention here. thank you for that. one quick note before we leave the us, from reuters news agency telling us the us vice president mike pence has made the choice to keep his distance from donald trump for a few days. that coming from the white house. afghanistan's president has ordered the security forces to resume offensive operations against militant groups including the taliban after dozens of civilians died in two major attacks.
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in kabul, gunmen stormed a hospital, killing 16 people including newborn babies. ishmael sadaat sent this report from kabul. people in kabul take cover as violence erupts in the city. gunmen target a hospital in the afghan capital. the attack by several men began with a series of blasts followed by gunfire. the hospital's maternity ward is run by the international medical charity medicines on frontiers and employs some foreigners. local residents witnessed the violence. translation: a man wearing a police uniform arrived and started shooting at guards and some women in the hospital entrance. i saw around four or five people were wounded. translation: the attackers were shooting anyone in the hospital without any reason.
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it's a government hospital and a lot of people that come in for treatment are women and children. security forces rushed to the scene, eventually rescuing several people, including children. the taliban, who signed the withdrawal agreement with united states more than two months ago, have denied involvement. similar attacks on foreign and other civilians in this mostly shia area of the capital have been attributed to the islamic state militant group. and this was not the only violence in the country on tuesday. in an eastern province, a member of the provincial council was among those killed in the attack on the funeral procession of a local police commander. despite the continued hopes of peace, the violence continues to impact the people of this country. including in the heart of the capital itself. ishmael saddat, bbc news, kabul. here in the uk, another 627 people have died from coronavirus in the last 2a hours.
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in all, more than 32,000 people have died on tuesday. the uk chancellor, rishi sunak, announced the government's furlough scheme, designed to avoid mass unemployment during the outbreak, will now be extended till the end of october. he said the scheme, which currently pays 80% of an employee's salary is now supporting 7.5 million jobs. the chancellor has been speaking to our political editor laura kuenssberg. you will be asking businesses to start contributing. how much? we think it's fair to ask businesses at that stage once everything is up and we are recovering to make a contribution along with the government in paying people's wages and that will also help us ensure that the scheme can be extended for this period of time. there are going to be thousands of businesses whose doors are still closed, whether that's a pub or theatre or holiday venue. where are they going
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to find the money? the plan the prime minister's set out has some days in it that we are all now working towards. the prime minister's made very clear that this plan, clear that this plan, it might not work. so how can you be sure that people will have in business will be asked we are dealing with them and we have not seen before at the scale so there's a degree of uncertainty about everything that were doing and i totally accept that. i'm joined now by rain newton smith, chief economist at the confederation of british industry. we heard from the chancellor there and let's take that apart a little. let's start with the sentiment that he cannot save everyjob. whatjobs and industries and areas you think are especially vulnerable now?|j think are especially vulnerable now?” think what is most important is that the chancellor has announced that he will extend the scheme. we know already it is supported around 7.5 millionjobs and already it is supported around 7.5 million jobs and we know it will continue in its current form until the end ofjuly. that means businesses across sectors from pubs
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to hotels to manufacturers will be breathing a sigh of relief. i think what is also being really welcome about what he announced today is he said they will also be a second phase of the scheme that will continue running until the end of october. so that also gives a lot of businesses and of course people who are being supported through the scheme and lot of reassurance. are being supported through the scheme and lot of reassurancem does give reassurance to a stent because businesses will be asked to give in —— depth and in those later months. and pay the salaries rather than the government. what we know his government will pay a significant proportion of those salaries and then businesses will be asked to top up. think what is important is important is that the employees will still be getting 80% support and of course businesses can top that up to 100% if they choose to. i think the other thing that is really important is in that second
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phase when certainly i think by then we are hoping we will see much more of the economy open for business is there will be able to partially furlough staff and that is something that businesses have been saying is usually important. as you look to reopen in manufacturing and looking to reopen shops and so many other businesses often what you want to do is to bring some of your staff back into the workplace for two days at a time while you wait for demand to pick up in the wider economy. so having that flexibility will help to support so many businesses and as we look to reopen the economy i think that flexibility is important. look to reopen the economy i think that flexibility is importantm avoids the cliff edge but that will not be enough to save everyone and there will be people who are for a lot of the moment and simply will not have jobs to go back to.” lot of the moment and simply will not have jobs to go back to. i think the reality is we know we are facing a hugely challenging time for the country and for the nation and for
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oui’ country and for the nation and for our health and for our economy and i think it is impossible for us to protect every singlejob think it is impossible for us to protect every single job forever. so i think we will need and see some adjustment in the economy and we know if you look at other countries you know the rise on the plummet has been so much higher. i think what is important is the job retention scheme has saved jobs in real time but i think the other thing to think about is as we look to the autumn they will be a people coming onto they will be a people coming onto thejob they will be a people coming onto the job market who will be and will not have any connection with this existing employer and i think we also will need to think about how we support them. so i think it is important that they support the government is setting out starts to evolve as the economy starts to reopen. i think we do need to think about some of the other people who may need support over the medium—term. may need support over the medium-term. thank you so much for lending us your expertise on that news. stay with us on outside source. still to come, we'll update you on brazil, where the president is reopening gyms and hair salons despite deaths
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surging in the country. scotland's first minister, nicola sturgeon, has urged companies not to call staff back to work early while the coronavirus lockdown remains in place. she says her government is working with employers and trade unions on how staff can return to work safely. have a listen. we must be cautious, we must not prematurely lift these restrictions and risk the virus running out of control before too long, it won'tjust be questions about should we or should we not have gone into lockdown more quickly, it will be why did you lift lock down early? so i make no apologies for being cautious about this and i will say to employers of all shapes and sizes in all sectors that you should be following in scotland scottish government advice. we are not yet encouraging any
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businesses that are not open right now or any workers who are not working right now to be back in operation. of course that will change in the weeks ahead and we want to get back to as close to normal operation for businesses as quickly as quickly as possible, but that has to be done safely and it has to be done in the right order. this is outside source live from the bbc newsroom. america's top disease expert anthony fauci has warned senators the coronavirus will spread if the country opens up too soon. france has overtaken spain in the number of coronavirus deaths it has recorded, making it the world's fourth worst—affected country behind the us, russia and the uk. the news comes as schools reopened today with strict social distancing measures in place. the latest daily toll of 348 deaths took the total to nearly 27,000. let's move to russia, which now has the second—highest
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number cases of coronavirus in the world after the us. latest figures show more than 230,000 people have tested positive and more than 2000 have died. however, some analysts say hundreds of excess deaths remain unexplained. among those infected is this man, dmitry peskov, president putin's spokesman. the bbc‘s sarah rainsford is in moscow with the latest. well, dmitry peskov has confirmed he does have coronavirus and is being treated in hospital, as is his wife. she has given a little more detail. she says that mr peskov got sick first, her husband got ill first and she suggested that it was him who brought the illness back from work, as she put it. as i said, they both are being treated in hospital.
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she said that they are both ok. she says she's coming out of it, but that he is also ok. now he has also clarified it has been some weeks since he has been personally in direct contact with president putin. so, the chances of him passing it on to mr putin are nonexistent as far as we understand. but certainly it's interesting as of course vladimir putin has been out of public contact for some weeks now, working from his residence outside moscow. holding video contest his ministers and regional governors, very much away from contact and possible infection. dmitriy peskov appears to have come into contact with someone with someone somehow, but we don't know what exactly happened or how he got infected. let's turn to brazil. president bolsanaro has consistently been out of synch with most world leaders on covid—i9. and he's not changing course, despite widespread criticism and the fact brazil is approaching the same number of infections as italy, he's now said gyms and hairdressers can reopen. ros atkins has more on this. hi, ros.
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hello, good to see you. the world health organisation says the americas are now driving the coronavirus pandemic. at the centre of that is the us, with the most cases of any nation, and brazil, with the most in south america. the who adds... both brazil and america have presidents who dismissed the threat of the virus initially. and whose arguments have often sounded similar. for his part, president bolsanaro has said things like this.
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then there was this now infamous exchange last month, when president bolsonaro was asked about a record number of coronavirus deaths in brazil. translation: so what? i mourn the deaths. what do you want me to do? i can't perform miracles. all of that and more led the british medicaljournal the lancet to publish an editorial arguing that the biggest obstacle to brazil combating covid—i9 was president bolsonaro. it wrote... so, what has brazilian society done? katy watson is our correspondent there. i think the lack of unity is a big problem. people here are confused. yes, there is a lot of anger and frustration with how bolsonaro
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has handled the crisis, but at the end of the day he is still president and a lot of people still look to him for direction. the state governors have been enforcing lockdowns and quarantines depending on the severity of the problem within the state. and those who could lockdown locked down early, but many people, especially in poor neighbourhoods, are unable to do so. and because of this confusion as well there seems to be a bit of people running out of patience. the social isolation is certainly decreasing more and more people are going back to work and leaving their homes. this could not come at a worse time for the country. now, the president's argument for his move to allow gyms and hairdressers to open is that this will make people healthier. he says... on that, most scientists would argue that while there are certainly merits to keeping healthy, busy gyms may make containing the virus harder and so at the moment, many countries are only
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allowing outdoor exercise. the president goes on... nail hygiene hasn't been high on the who's priorities, but of course the president is seeking to make a broader point, and it's as much about the economy as it is about health. and that is a political calculation. here's katy watson again. jair bolsonaro came to power promising a better economy, but it does not look like his legacy will be economic success. so, he is really going hard on the economic issues effectively because he knows he can blame the state governors when the crisis, economic crisis hits and say this was not my doing it was because of their drastic measures that closed closed down the economy. but it's a risky strategy because of course that's banking on brazil coming out of this
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relatively unscathed with a low death toll and handling the crisis well, but with the death toll climbing here in brazil, he certainly is not looking very good. well, while the president is holding on to many supporters, others have turned away. sao paolo's governor used to be an ally. it's amazing when you have two viruses to combat. the coronavirus and bolsonaro virus. and with that kind of criticism and a climbing death toll, you'd be right to wonder if the president is showing any signs of shifting his position. here's katy once more. well, he stopped calling it the sniffles. that's a positive, but he is still not uniting with other politicians, especially political adversaries in trying to come up with one unified plan to try and tackle the crisis. last week, when the numbers of people who died started to drop, he said the worst was over and then the numbers soared again.
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he is much more extreme in his politics than donald trump. and backing down does not look likely for now. and sojust as in the us, we are seeing splits between the president and regional leaders, we're seeing rhetoric that appals and resonates depending on the audience, and we're seeing a virus that's oblivious to all of it. brazil's death toll is past 11,000, america's is past 80,000. and, as i said at the start, the americas are now driving this pandemic. back to you. thank you. finally, we want to pay tribute to the superheroes in scrubs for international nurse's day. people around the world today have been reflecting on their huge contribution in the fight against covid—19. tributes are also being paid to nurses who've died during the pandemic. the uk royal college of nursing received a very don't forget you can get in touch with me and some of the team on twitter. i'm @lvaughanjones.
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thank you for watching, bye—bye. hello. high pressure will govern the weather across the uk for the rest of this week, into the weekend and into next week. that doesn't, though, mean there will be no changes. a lot of fine weather, yes, but temperatures are going to change quite significantly by the weekend. at the moment, we are sitting to the east of the high. arctic air, pretty chilly. the high re—orientating itself. it starts to pick up mild air from out in the atlantic, feed over the top of the high and into the uk, warming up all of us. it looks like it could be the case into next week as well. tonight, though, a chilly story for scotland, northern ireland and northern england.
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the weather front slides south, some rain, some snow possible for the pennines, showers following. temperatures as low as —3 in rural spots. further south, more cloud, and that will be a milder night. we will see lows of around six or seven degrees. quite a bit of cloud. i think it will tend to brighten here as the day pans out. the breeze a little bit stronger for the south east and along the south coast on wednesday. coming off the north sea, a cold wind that will feed in the odd heavier shower. seven, eight, nine here, perhaps 1a toward the south west. for thursday, best of the sunshine i think first thing. cloud tending to build again across the uk as the hours go by. the south west perhaps staying clearest, a high here of 15 degrees, but notice just a change in wind direction allows things to become
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milder for northern scotland and parts of the north east of england. friday, another fine day, the high still with us, but some showers do try to sneak in. day by day, we manage to increase about a degree or so. come the weekend, we'll probably notice the most significant increases in our temperatures. some areas to the south perhaps by a factor of around ten degrees. a lot of settled weather will take us through the week ahead.
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the leading us infectious diseases expert, anthony fauci, is about to give evidence before a senate committee. he's expected to warn against lifting the restrictions against the spread of the coronavirus too quickly and too soon. in kabul, fourteen people, including two children, have been killed, after a militant attack on a hospital. soldiers rushed to help rescue mothers and their babies. the attack by several men began with a series of blasts, followed by gunfire. some train services have resumed in india after nearly two months as lockdown eases. before the pandemic the rail network carried over 20 million people each day. tesla's chief executive elon musk has reopened an electric car plant in california, despite lockdown orders in place against manufacturing. president trump has tweeted his support, saying the plant can be open "safely and fast". you are watching bbc news. today's downing street news conference on the government's
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