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good morning, welcome to bbc news. i'm victoria derbyshire — here are the latest headlines this wednesday morning. the coronavirus slump begins — the uk economy has shrunk at its fastest pace since the financial crisis of 2008. it is not a surprise, in common with pretty much every other economy around the world, we're facing severe impact from the coronavirus, you're seeing that in the numbers. it's back to work for some people in england, but not in the rest of the uk. workers are told to avoid public transport, but if that's not possible, to use face coverings and keep their distance from others. the housing market in england comes out of lockdown. buyers and renters can visit estate agents and view properties.
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france eases lockdown restrictions, despite its death toll from the virus rising above that spain. good morning. seven weeks after the prime minister announced the lockdown, some restrictions are being eased in england. from today, if you work in construction, food production, manufacturing — anyjob you can't do from home — you're being encouraged to go back to work. you can also from today meet a friend or someone from another household, but it must be one—on—one and outside. and you must keep two metres distance from each other. you're allowed to play sports that are physically distanced — like golf or tennis —
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and do as much exercise as you like outside. from today garden centres can reopen. they're already open in wales. estate agents can also reopen in england and viewings in properties can go ahead. all of that only applies to england. in scotland, wales and northern ireland the message is still to stay at home. do let me know if you are going back to work today in england. maybe you're already there. what was the bus, metro, tram, tube, train like? did you choose to wear a face covering? do let me know so we can get a picture across england — on twitter it's @vicderbyshire, or email victoria@bbc. the measures are all aimed at getting the economy restarted. we've had new official figures out today that show the uk economy shrank by 2% from january to march. that's the largest contraction since the 2008 financial crisis and only takes into account the beginning of the lockdown. the chancellor, rishi sunak, has been giving his reaction to those figures this morning.
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well, in some sense, they're not a surprise, in common with pretty much every other economy around the world, we're facing severe impact from the coronavirus, you're seeing that in the numbers, and that's why we've taken the unprecedented action that we have, to support people's jobs and livelihoods at this time and support businesses so we can get through this period of severe disruption and emerge stronger on the other side. let's speak to our business correspondent, ben thompson. shall we talk first of all about these economic figures that are out this morning? obviously, the slump has begun? yeah, morning to you, victoria. no surprise that the economy is struggling, but what is interesting, when you look at these figures, is both the speed and the scale of the collapse in economic growth at the start of this year. if we look at the first three months of
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the year, the economy shrunk by 2%. but of course that lockdown of the uk only came into force on the 23rd of march. and so, if you start to look at that month on its own, you start to get a sense of quite how damaging this could be for the wider economy. march, economic growth shrinking by 5.8%. remember, that's just one week of that lockdown. to put that into context, the financial crisis, back in 2008, the economy shrank by 6.9%, but it did so over 13 months. what we've seen in the march figures is the economy effectively collapsing by 5.8% in just one week of lockdown. and so, whilst we don't have the real impact yet, the months of april, may and june, but nonetheless, the economy really struggling. no great
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surprise, because we couldn't get to work, businesses cannot operate as normal. and that's why today, a significant day, with more of us able to get back to work, as long as it is safe to do so, i think the government will be looking at this very closely to make sure that the economy doesn't suffer for any longer than is absolutely necessary, even though they keep reiterating of course that health issues are the primary concern. and it will be really interesting to see how many people actually do go back to work today? yes. you touch on some of those sectors and industries that might be expecting their workers to go back, but it's only a couple of days since we had a pretty comprehensive list of advice for all sorts of different workplaces. remember, it's going to be very difficult for employers to make sure that they've got all of the necessary steps in place to protect their workers. this is unprecedented, so they're having to source unprecedented, so they're having to source things like screens to
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protect staff from customers, for example. in factories, protect staff from customers, for example. infactories, it protect staff from customers, for example. in factories, it might be about separating people a little further, encouraging them to work side by side rather than face—to—face. and you also touched on the issue of how we might actually get there, because public transport is not running at full capacity, even when all of those services are resumed as normal, it's going to be very difficult to carry as many passengers as they did before. and so not only is the workplace needing to be changed to be safe, but all sorts of different measures put in place to make sure we can actually get there. you touched on some of those industries that will be able to slowly start resuming work again, things like factories and warehouses, agriculture, building sites, all of thejobs agriculture, building sites, all of the jobs that you can't do from home. an interesting one today, estate agents, finally able to reopen, viewings and bookings on property transactions might finally get the go—ahead. i've been looking at some of the numbers. 373,000 transactions have been held up over
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the past few weeks because they cannot get pushed through. that means about £82 billion worth of property transactions just in a holding pattern. and so from today, if you're an estate agent, if you're carrying out viewings, may be removers, surveyors, people who might need to visit a property, they can begin again from today, providing that those social distancing rules are in place. but of course it begs the question about who would want to have people traipsing around their house looking ata traipsing around their house looking at a property given the concern about people coming into your home. and also it's worth bearing in mind, people's financial position may be very different at the end of this so they may be trying to renegotiate, and also, given the number of us now being able to work from home more flexibly, i think many people might be looking for an extra spare room for a home office or looking at the quality of the broadband. so, the
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property market before this crisis and after could look very different indeed. and a quick word about a treasury report which has been lea ked treasury report which has been leaked to the daily telegraph which suggests that to pay for all of this, our taxes may have to go up, public—sector pay may have to be frozen and there may be to public spending? yes, and in some respects, you might think that isn't hugely surprising, given that the day of reckoning for this might come at some point. just yesterday the chancellor was saying that he will extend the furlough payment scheme officially until the end ofjuly, and beyond that, august, september and beyond that, august, september and october, if employers are able to pay a contribution of that furlough payment. but of course that is costing money, putting pressure on the public finances, while we are not working, there is more and more money being spent on trying to keep us money being spent on trying to keep us in employment rather than our employer having to make us redundant and then putting pressure on the employment unemployment system and
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universal credit. but yes, the telegraph says it has seen a document prepared by the treasury which says that even within a matter of weeks, they might have to make this case clear to international investors. what the treasury has to do is make sure that around the world come of the uk economy is seen as robust and safe, that is protecting our reputation internationally. to do that it has to look like it is acting responsibly, and so to pay for all of this public spending, we might find that taxes for all of us have to go up to pay for it. public—sector workers may face a two—year pay freeze, and ultimately, the gusts will come down to all of us, because frankly, there may also have to be cuts in public speck two is well to try to balance the books. but at this stage it is very unclear how much all of this will cost, because there are so many ifs and buts and maybes about getting the uk back to work. but quite clearly, given what we've seen with the economic growth figures this
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morning, we're only getting a backward —looking view, the real pain, we expect, will be felt in the second quarter, so, april, may and june. that could officially tip the uk into recession, and then the price we all pay welcome, perhaps through higher taxes, a cut in public spending and that freeze on public spending and that freeze on public sector pay. garden centres are reopen in england. i don't know about you, but i'm already building up to a big trip to my local notcutts this afternoon. our correspondentjohn maguire is at a garden centre in sherborne. how busy is it? it's a very busy, in fa ct how busy is it? it's a very busy, in fact we're holding the queue up at the moment, we are at castle gardens of in sherborne. they've developed a system which they have been working on for a couple of weeks, handing out maps. they've actually reversed
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the flow, to maintain social distancing. ian is one of the first in the queue here this morning. good morning to you. glad to be back? 0h, gosh, relieved, glad, delighted, yes! what has it been like for the eight weeks not being able to come and get what you need for your garden? i've been very frustrated but i'm used to being alone and living alone anyway, an old man, a widower, life has not been the same anyway. but you're glad to be back today, what are you after? i'm after a tree, particularly, because it is the time of the year, it needs to get in. and over the past four or five years, i've put in 159 conkers and acorns, and they are all growing up and acorns, and they are all growing up now, to make my little woodland, do my bit for the planet, and i thought i would give them a big parent, ifi thought i would give them a big parent, if i can. thank you very much for that. as ian was saying, a crucial time of yearfor much for that. as ian was saying, a crucial time of year for gardens and gardeners. hand sanitiser on the way
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in. lots of members of staff to help guide people through. signs everywhere and as you can see, signs on the ground as well. the same type of deal as you might well have seen in your local supermarket, the idea, to try and keep people to metres apart. if you go to your local garden centre, you will be used to see in clothing, homewares, that type of thing. at the moment, that kind of thing is all taped off. 2500 garden centres across the uk, and one of the things about them is that they've got a lot of outdoor space. it's a much better situation when you consider what we know about coronavirus so far. taking you up to see the outside of the garden centre, the staff have also been doing specialist training, going through role—play, pretending to be
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customers and clients, so they get an idea of exactly helping people to find out where things are. the map that i showed you earlier gives un idea, and as you can see, people keeping a distance, also encouraged to use a trolley which helps people keep two metres apart. we'lljust let this lady go through there. and say good morning, mike, once again. what has the last eight weeks been like for you in this business? well, i hadn't realised how emotional it would be in seeing customers back in the centre. sol would be in seeing customers back in the centre. so i think itjust shows how much of an issue it has been for us. how much of an issue it has been for us. struggling through it, we've been working on telephone orders, but seeing the number of people in the queue today, we couldn't possibly answer that many calls in one day, so, to see everyone back in the centre now isjust extraordinary. and you have
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maintained telephone and international over that time, but what sort of impact has it had on your business? well, we've been running over the last eight weeks at about a fifth of our normal business, so that's fairly devastating, it's not sustainable. we've done it because we think it's important to keep people at home gardening, gardening is a solution to this lockdown that we are under. and if we keep people in good mental health, gardening will help enormously. so, we would have been better off closing down completely and following everyone but we felt it was our duty keep going and i'm glad we have, i think the team has done a wonderful thing in doing that. but it's wonderful to see the people here today. isn't itjust. some sense of normality. thank you very much indeed, really good to see you today. what they've also done, you today. what they've also done, you can see all of these yellow footprints around as we approach the tills now, all two metres apart. we've just taken a bit of a shortcut, actually, because i want
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to ta ke shortcut, actually, because i want to take you down to show you the tills. all of the stock looks absolutely wonderful. and what this business has done with not being open for the last eight weeks, apart from the online stuff, is that they've donated some plants to the local nhs, to care homes and also to primary schools as well. we will bring you around this way, try and keep away from folks. good morning, everyone. staff safely ensconced behind perspex. again, that's going to be the new normal. as you can see, lots of members of staff helping people pick up their compost on the way through. wales have had their garden centres open since monday, and it has been
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working very well there. scotland and northern ireland, not open yet. thank you for your messages as well. victoria says... my boss has been empty for the last few weeks but a load of people just got on and didn't bother with social distancing. this one says... traffic was already building up at 5am this morning, huge, noticeable difference over the last three days, this is on the a—roads in hampshire. this one says... the 53 bus is one person per double seat. the driver skips bus stops if it exceeds this. this one says... when will it be possible to see our partners that we don't live in the same house with? well, if you're in england, chris, it's today. get on with it, i'm excited for you! this one says... my good, old—fashioned british common sense says that if i can have a cleaner in
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my house from today in england, then ican my house from today in england, then i can have my mum round. that's not according to the rules. so be it on your own head. and this one says... iam not your own head. and this one says... i am not likely to get too close to other people when i'm out but if i went round to see my family, i know we'd all be tempted to get too close to each other, i will be patient a bit longer. and one more... i work ina bit longer. and one more... i work in a small supermarket in the dales. we are going to be inundated with tourists from today, with the allowing of unlimited travel to open places. this puts me and my collea g u es places. this puts me and my colleagues and the old and vulnerable living here at risk. let's talk to an estate agent now. they can start showing buyers around properties again today. we are joined by a director of an estate agent in norfolk. was this a surprise to you? yes, very much so, a welcome surprise albeit we have got to take some precautions and make sure we keeping safe. and so what does it mean in practical terms from today? in practicalterms, the
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legislation is saying we can start viewings on properties again. more importantly, it is probably to progress the sales which are already going through, so we can get the market stimulated again. viewings and valuations are very important but we need to make sure we keeping customers and staff safe. to reignite the property market would bea reignite the property market would be a great thing. people have pressed pores on the situation so we haven't lost many sales, which is positive for the country, because we are very positive for the country, because we are very property led in the uk. positive for the country, because we are very property led in the ukw is only 20 past nine in the morning but have you had people getting in touch with you? funnily enough, we did last night. we put the announcement on social media last night about half past seven and within an hour, i think we had already booked a valuation. so, people are raring to go. we've just got to make sure we use some common sense and some guidance. we have a web chat this morning with someone
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from our legislative body. so we have had interest already, which is very promising. but we've got to keep safe. that's a really good point, of course, because your staff are going to be able to show people around rental properties and properties that are up for sale, strangers, people from other households, so how are you going to keep people safe? well, i think there will be some clarification on that today, but very much it looks like we can only show one person round at a time without other people in the property. obviously, to meet a distancing, ppe is going to be a strong part of this, which luckily we had already got some stock over the last week or so. so there is going to be guidance which we will send to prospective tenants and purchasers before the viewing takes place so they understand what we're expecting beforehand. and we're not going to force anybody or try and encourage people to let us in their
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homes who are not comfortable with it. we need to make sure that all parties are in agreement and happy with the risks. just had this message from one viewer... you can't visit your elderly parents, but if their houses for sale, you can go round for a house from today. yes, i can understand why there is a lot of confusion and concern. i'm pleased i'm not the guy who writes the rules, that's for sure. some staff have voiced that, it's very peculiar that this is the case. we're not going to ask anybody to do anything they're not comfortable with. but i can understand there is some frustration across the uk, because it is one rule for one, one rule for the other, but i suppose they're trying to get the economy moving and trying to get the economy moving and trying to get back to some sword of state of normal. having listened to the health secretary, matt hancock, yesterday and grant shapps, the transport secretary, today, it would seem transport secretary, today, it would seem that it is a judgment call they have made, those were the words of matt hancock yesterday, and
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potentially, if you see a family member in your back garden, if you've got a back garden, as opposed to somewhere out and about, you might be tempted to have more family members around, you just don't know. this message is well... it says... i am scared to be told that as of today, we can go into people's houses to conduct viewings for sales and lettings. so, there will be one or two and just people? yeah, absolutely. and that is the key, if you are not comfortable, you shouldn't partake in these activities. i think it is up to us as an estate agent and responsible people to make sure we put guidelines in place. but again it is not making people do anything, people should use common sense, they should listen to the government's advice and if we feel we can do this ina advice and if we feel we can do this in a safe way work, we will continue to do so. the main part of all of this is making sure people are safe and we are protecting our staff and customers and following the government guidelines and so there isn't a second spike. thank you very
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much for talking to us. the government has encouraged people to return to work if they can, but are urging to only use public transport as a last resort. borisjohnson has asked people to walk, cycle or drive to work where possible with many bus and train companies running a reduced service. these pictures show a steady stream of cars travelling into central london this morning with many of the capital's main roads filling up during the morning commute. the transport secretary, grant shapps, said it was important to not overcrowd buses and tubes. it is essential, it doesn't matter what happens on the underground or on the wider rail network in terms of a full number of trains and buses
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running, even when we get to that point and they are being cranked up again, only one in ten people will have space to remain properly socially distanced, so we are asking people to look again at their travel plans and make sure they are distanced. i am pushing the mayor as well to make sure that more services are run and as quickly as possible. we've been speaking to a number of people about their morning commute into london this morning. yeah, well, i was off work for two months, so basically that was due to the situation with coronavirus. i am a bit concerned, but as the government announced that the key workers are allowed to go back to work, so i feel pretty much confident to going back. when i have had to use it it definitely is still quite busy and i think a lot of people... some people are really conscious about keeping their distance, two metres, and other people just aren't really. so i am just conscious of using it as little as possible. yeah, yeah, there are more
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workers going out today. from yesterday i discovered that there is a lot of work that has commenced, actually. after seven weeks in lockdown, some businesses will this week begin the difficult process of reopening. it comes after the government announced the easing of restrictions with more people encouraged to start returning to work. in his address on sunday, boris johnson highlighted construction and manufacturing as the sorts of industries where employees would now be explicitly encouraged to return, but for many, concerns remain about the risk of contracting the coronavirus once back in the workplace or on public transport when commuting. let's hear from some of those looking at returning to work now. andrew huxley is managing director of besblock, one of the uk's biggest concrete manufacturers. dr elisabetta groppelli is also with me. she is a virologist and lecturer in global health
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at st george's university, london. and i'm alsojoined by kate tynan, who runs a wedding cake business in stockport and says she isn't in a position to reopen anytime soon. andrew, you have 63 staff, how many are coming back today? we've got another seven coming back today, victoria. and have you given them the choice? yes, we have, we've asked them all individually weather they would like to come. and the rest are still going to be furloughed? that's right. over half are still furloughed. how are you making the ones who are back feel secure? i think it'sjust making sure that we've got the ppe correct for them for eachjob that sure that we've got the ppe correct for them for each job that they're doing, making sure we got hand washes available, making sure we got hand sanitiser and making sure we're co nsta ntly hand sanitiser and making sure we're constantly keeping them at a two metre distance as a minimum. and what kind of work will they be doing which means they need to wear ppe? general cleaning of the factory, at the end of the day, the end of the
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shift, means they have to wear some ppe anyway, which is masks and goggles, so, those things will continue as normal. are you clear, then, that your workplace is a covid secure, to use the terminology? yeah, it is as a covid secure as i can get it. let me bring in kate tynan. hello. i know you can't go back to work yet, until your children go back to school, plus, obviously, there are no weddings, are there? you have got two young children but you need the year for children but you need the year for child to go back as well? well, i wa nt child to go back as well? well, i want to be able to do any work until both my children go back to school. i don't have anyone else to look after them, my husband i don't have anyone else to look afterthem, my husband is i don't have anyone else to look after them, my husband is still working full—time, as you said at the moment, i don't have any work to go back to because there are no weddings happening, but obviously, i could potentially pivot my wedding ca ke could potentially pivot my wedding cake business to do something else, but whilst i've got my children at home, that's very difficult. i work
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on my own, i don't have any staff, so on my own, i don't have any staff, so everything falls on me. on my own, i don't have any staff, so everything falls on melj on my own, i don't have any staff, so everything falls on me. i know you've been building up this business for seven years — is it going to survive? i think i will survive. i'm one of the lucky ones, really, in that my husband's work hasn't been affected, so, luckily, he's been able to support us. but obviously i know a lot of wedding suppliers are not as lucky as me, and lots of businesses won't survive this. i really don't know when weddings will be back to normal. it's really sad for all of my couples and older people in the wedding industry. ifeel that couples and older people in the wedding industry. i feel that we are being left in limbo at the moment, not knowing when we will be able to go back to work and when weddings will happen again. it might not even be this year. that's true. you haven't qualified for the small business grants from the government — what about the self—employed income support scheme, the scheme designed to match whatever is being given to furloughed employees, which
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you could start applying for from today? yeah, it's a bit complicated but because i started my business when my children were young, i still had a small part—time salary while i was building the business up, until it was financially viable to go full—time with that business, which it was in 2019, that's the first yearl it was in 2019, that's the first year i made a decent profit from my company. but because of the way the chancellor is working out the way theyrpm the grants, it is an average of three years, so unfortunately, my self—employed profit is less than 50% of my overall earnings, even though my earnings were really tiny, it was, like, my employed earnings we re it was, like, my employed earnings were less than £10,000 a year, so, £30,000 over three years, it is not a huge amount of money. but sadly, this year was probably set to be my best year get, i have become quite 64, i have won a lot of awards, people want me to make their wedding cakes. so, unfortunately, the 19—20
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tax return hasn't been taken into account, and i think that would have shown by much better picture of where people who are self—employed are at the moment. so unfortunately for me i have fallen through the net andl for me i have fallen through the net and i am not able to access that 80% so and i am not able to access that 80% solam and i am not able to access that 80% so i am basically getting nothing from the government at all at the moment. and there's a few like you, the schemes that are out there, they seem the schemes that are out there, they seem absolutely brilliant but it is just there have been one or two people who have full and through the net. i am going to bring in dr elisabetta groppelli — is it safe for people to go back to work?|j think for people to go back to work?” think the most important thing is now that it is safer. the virus, we acce pt now that it is safer. the virus, we accept that it is going to be part of our community, because of the way the virus is, so, we cannot get rid of it, so we need to learn how to live with it. and right now the situation in the uk is safer,
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because there is less transmission going on. this is exemplified and summarised by the r number. so, does that mean, because some of the restrictions are being eased, there is more movement of people, certainly in england from today, is an uptick in cases inevitable?m certainly in england from today, is an uptick in cases inevitable? it is certainly a risk, it is certainly a possibility, and this is what has been seen in countries all over the world that have started easing restrictions. the most important thing is that we manage those new infections and we monitor the situation. so, the virus is still the same and the vast majority of us are still susceptible to it. there is not much, not as much, virus going on, and we can still get it, so going on, and we can still get it, so it is important that we put in place those measures, going back to hand washing and social distancing, ina new hand washing and social distancing, in a new form now, in a way that allows us to carry out some tasks,
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including working and possibly seeing our relatives. do you have any concerns about your employees potentially catching the virus at work and you being liable as their boss? it would be a tragedy, that would be terrible. i do think that is possible, but i also think it is possible that they catch it outside and i do not think we would know where they caught it at all. as long as we do everything we can to stop them getting it at work, or minimise the chance of getting it, that is what we are trying to do. finally, mps have mostly been working from home or in their constituencies for the last few weeks. conservative mp and leader of the house of commons jacob rees mogg says mps should go back to work in may to set an example to the rest of the country. do you agree? we have got to have a government thatis we have got to have a government that is responsible for what it is
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doing. if they are back at work, they can be held to account by the opposition. that is crucial, yes. what about you, kate, do you need them to set an example?” what about you, kate, do you need them to set an example? i think if they are expecting the rest of the country to go back to work and put themselves in danger, then they should also follow suit, really.” suppose they might say, we have been working, but working from home. thank you, kate, i wish you all the very best. andrew, thank you, and elizabeth. now it is time for a look at the weather. it was a chilly start to the day, and most of us remaining cool for this time of the year. there will be a few showers, particularly in the north—east. some of those showers in the north east of scotland and in the north east of scotland and in the north east of scotland and in the north east of england over high ground could be wintry. elsewhere, a bit of cloud here and there and
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temperatures only 11—14, but colder along the east coast with a brisk wind. gusts of about 40 mph. there wind. gusts of about 40 mph. there wind slowly ease a bit and the cloud melts away overnight. under those skies we are expecting another cold night. there could be a touch of frost first thing tomorrow morning, and another chilly day. scotland and northern ireland will cloud over from the north—west. largely dry across england and wales with sunny spells. not as chilly as today, temperatures 11—15. hello, this is bbc news with me, victoria derbyshire. the headlines... the coronavirus slump begins — the uk economy has shrunk at its fastest pace since the financial crisis of 2008. it is not a surprise, in common with pretty much every other economy around the world, we're facing severe impact
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from the coronavirus, you're seeing that in the numbers. it's back to work for some people in england, but not in the rest of the uk. workers are told to avoid public transport, but if that's not possible to use face coverings and keep their distance from others. the housing market in england comes out of lockdown. buyers and renters can visit estate agents and view properties. let me read you a couple more messages. ricky says, if we enter two deep recession, more people will die from an economic struggle than they will of coronavirus. we have to make baby steps to go back to normality. david buckley says, iam going back for the first time in six weeks to a steel fabrication, general engineering, workshop. they are doing all they can to make it safe, but i will find out today. and
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he says, i am still on furlough and my partner has a shielding letter andi my partner has a shielding letter and i do not know when i will return to work. will says, unfortunately we will not be back to work this week andi will not be back to work this week and i am missing the business. kevin says, i have been at work all through this because i work for a food manufacturer. we have implemented social distancing and changed the way we work on the run, but to date there have been no issues on site. the media are spreading panic to stop people working. susie says, we have worked all the way through, they take temperatures on arrival and have rearranged workstations to make social distancing possible, they wear face masks and social distancing possible, they wearface masks and have social distancing possible, they wear face masks and have loads of hand sanitising stations around. no problems at all. thank you for those and thank you for getting in touch. if you are going back to work today, let me know how it was on your commute. with many apprenticeships and junior positions being cut and a lack of savings to fall back on, many young adults are under
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considerable financial strain at the moment. radio 1 newsbeat reporter kirsty grant has been talking to some of those worried about their future prospects. gemma is 16. she was a year into her hairdressing apprenticeship when she was let go just before the lockdown. i was quite far into it. i was starting to cut hair, learn about colour theory and then i was shampooing a client and got called upstairs. i was told i had to leave. it sounds so dramatic. i felt truly heartbroken because it was also perfect for me. i struggled at school, i left school and had this apprenticeship and was like, this is amazing, i'm finally getting to learn. gemma has got the support of the family but is getting worried about finding a new salon to complete her apprenticeship. according to the association of employment and learning providers, 60% of employers have stopped recruiting apprentices entirely. i don't know what to do anymore, it's all very unexpected. you are going to be so lost with nothing to find after,
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it's just so difficult. amelia was made redundant from her marketing firm just before the lockdown. she is 23. it was a bit of a shock. i was sat outside and i was sat i didn't really know how to react. she is isolating with her boyfriend who is helping support them both. she says she wasn't offered furlough because the company told her they didn't want to use the government scheme. i've been told i'm ok but i managed to stretch my last pay cheque, or pay cheque and a half. obviously, that is, it will dwindle eventually. 26—year—old jared is a self—employed tree surgeon. like about 650,000 other people, he's not been eligible for the government's support scheme for the self—employed because he only started his business last summer. i'm very fortunate to have the support of family so my grandmother has sent me some money. my mother sends me £100 per month.
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technicallyjared can go back to work now the government has eased its restrictions this week but they say people are not seeking his services at the moment so he will have to claim universal credit. we would not be able to survive if we couldn't claim that. rent is paid for, we've got enough money. jared, gemma and amelia are dealing with the immediate impact of the crisis but the big challenge for them may be the longer—term prospects. and at half past two this afternoon, we will be answering your questions on how the pandemic has had an impact on young people's finances. send us your questions to hashtag bbcyourquestions, or email yourquestions at bbc.co.uk. we had a positive reaction from you
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yesterday to the teacher in denmark who described social distancing measures that they have put in place in their primary schools in order to keep little kids apart. lots of you said you admired their positive, can—do attitude. some primary school children in england could be back in their classrooms in less than three weeks. our europe correspondent jean mackenzie has been talking to staff and pupils at one of them. it's been hard to not hug each other. it says, you can't hug each other, you have to hug yourself. keeping kids apart requires some imagination. we're not worried about the virus at all. when they came back, we had lots of activities to try and make them not worry, but they did worry, so we had to give up on that. it wasn't needed? not at all. the school's been cleverly redrawn so each child only comes into contact with a very small number of children. normally they sit two and two.
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you have the class of 20 that's been cut down to two groups of 10, that's why you have the plastic. because those two groups aren't allowed to move? exactly. when they are going outside on the breaks, we have to divide those groups into even smaller groups. so the kids just have four other children they are allowed to play with and they are only given one part of the playground that they're are allowed to be in. my name's skye, i'm seven years old. we keep our distance when we play. you can't play catch. what do you play instead? hula—hoop. they're finding it a little bit boring but they are also good at telling each other, "remember, you're no supposed to go there." and there is a lot of this. how many times do you wash your hands today? lots. denmark reopened primary schools very early on. it was feared the infection rate
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would rise and initially did, but it's back down again and with so many parents and work here, this was a targeted risk. if we have to get the economy moving again, then we have to get the kids back into not only schools but also daycare to try to enhance productivity for those forced still to work at home. it was a challenge to do yourjob while having him home. it is much more easy for me to concentrate. i have a row of hours where i canjust work. a lot of parents wrote to me that they had some kind of concerns, and a few parents that are so concerned that they wouldn't let the child come in the first week. after two weeks, it's been no problem. actually, it was the kids at home who said, "why can't i go?" this, they said, was impossible — children's social distancing. now it might not be school as they know it but they are making it work.
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very beautiful danish song. the direct translation is, "when the light returns." the light is back. jean mackenzie, bbc news. that is how they are doing it. chris says, it was rammed on the tube this morning. another one, iwork says, it was rammed on the tube this morning. another one, i work in property maintenance and a new system of work has been introduced, minimum risk and i feel system of work has been introduced, minimum risk and ifeel safe. materials delivered to site on nonworking hours, rather than people picking up from stores depot. one says, this is being motivated by money, the economy will not benefit if you are visiting your family. another, my mum works as a cleaner ata another, my mum works as a cleaner at a petrol station and was required to continue to work and she does it for us and! to continue to work and she does it for us and i love her so much. john says, i personally think a great number of people will do their own thing now, no one can stop them. no one can stop them.
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with the health secretary saying holidays abroad are "unlikely" this summer, many people will be wondering whether they'll be able to take a break in this country. but when could campsites open? how do you make a hotel "covid safe"? and are residents in tourist hotspots worried about an influx of visitors? i had ihada i had a message from one person today who says they work in the dales and they are expecting an influx of tourists today and they are worried about it. glennjones ru ns are worried about it. glennjones runs a selection of holiday sites. glennjones runs a selection of holiday sites. let's talk now to brian griffiths, a caravan site owner in tenbury wells, and glennjones, who owns holiday home parks in herefordshire. how did you you react when matt hancock says lavish holidays are of? it was a big nuance, i was not entirely pleased with it. what i would like to happen is that for
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privately owned caravans, effectively second home owners who come to the countryside basically to self—isolate from the cities, if that could be freed up, that would bea that could be freed up, that would be a real step forward for us. what do you mean freed up? well, at the moment our business is closed. we have three lines of income and one is holiday hire, where people come for a week or a short break. one is with buying and selling caravans to private owners to station on the park. the third income follows from that, which is pitches. when we got to the last week in march all our holiday hire people have now been cancelled up until the end ofjune and caravan sales has hit the same sort of buffer as the motor trade, and our rental follows on from sales, so next year's rental will be
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compromised. secondly, we are already under enormous pressure to refinance and collect rent at the beginning of the year. people have not been able to access their caravans. two different types of ca rava n caravans. two different types of caravan user and one is the private owner who lives birmingham and they come to the countryside to stay on park and they enjoy the peace and quiet of the rural surroundings. whereas, the holiday—makers come from all over the country and i can understand that anyone who wants to lock down on the spread of the virus will want to stop that because those people will typically want to travel all over and use restaurants, pubs, whereas private owners may very well wa nt to whereas private owners may very well want to come to just enjoy the peace and quiet, walking and fishing.”
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see, understood. let me bring in the land. how is business and what do you think about the prospects for the summer? good morning. it has been bad news and let's hope potentially some good news. it has been grim and very difficult, and like lots of businesses we furloughed the majority of our team. the park has never enjoyed better weather and get the tumbleweed has been blowing through, there has been nobody here. it has been difficult, we are losing money. however, there is the light at the end of the tunnel, here is the potential good news. we hope very soon to be able to open our fishing and golfing facilities. like brian, ithink ca rava n facilities. like brian, ithink caravan holiday home owners i think can come and enjoy all this space. we have got 100 acres of beautiful herefordshire countryside and around 200 owners, about half an acre each. if that is not social distancing, what is? fair enough, but who will
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clea n what is? fair enough, but who will clean their homes? they will have to have deep cleaning to reassure people, won't they? no, the privately owned ones is the point brian was making. people have their own. it is where life feels safe. you are saying the customers who own their own holiday homes or caravans, please, can we let them come back? at the moment that is against the rules. absolutely. it is the safer form of holidaying. it would be good form of holidaying. it would be good for the team. talking about the local community, our owners are very respectful and they can have their groceries delivered online, they do not have to integrate, the pubs are not have to integrate, the pubs are not open. there is a minimal impact on the local community. we work very closely with them and i am sure they would like to see a few guests slowly coming back. i want to introduce you to a gentleman in denmark.
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i'm also joined by allan agerholm who runs a number of hotels in denmark, where the lockdown has been lifted. i gather some of the hotels are now open? that is correct. we remained two out of three hotels opened through the crisis so far. how? how did you do it? well, basically, we followed the guidelines of the danish authorities, social distancing as you are talking about, very rigid cleaning regime and making sure that all touch points we re making sure that all touch points were disinfected once every hour, and just keeping a very high cleanliness. but of course at a very low occu pa ncy cleanliness. but of course at a very low occupancy to be honest. how many customers did you have? we have had 50 or 60 rooms out of 1600 occupied throughout. but it was motivating for the team to just throughout. but it was motivating for the team tojust keep doing something rather than doing nothing at all. when are you expecting to be
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back up to full occupancy in reality? well, nobody really knows. our forecast here in denmark is bleak, as i think you can imagine. we think the danish will start travelling around denmark in the coming months and then perhaps the internal eu borders will open over the summer. but back to where we were, at the end of 21, 22.” wonder, glenn and brian, let me go back to you, brian, first, do you think it will take that long for you to get properly back on your feet? for the business i can see the way forward for the rest of this year, given we have had the benefit of the furlough for the star. we have had the hospitality industry grant, we have been forgiven our business rates, although we have forgiven our customers the payment of rates on the caravans. we have more or less
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stopped all our capital investment in the business and i can see the way forward to the end of this year. my way forward to the end of this year. my big worry is, particularly with the units we rent out for weekly hire, is how on earth we overcome consumer confidence that the place is clean and the last people in it last week have not left some dreadful virus after them and how we protect our cleaning staff. i think thatis protect our cleaning staff. i think that is a really big mountain to climb once we get under way, even if it takes the rest of this year to get over the present infection.” it takes the rest of this year to get over the present infection. i am bringing in rory boland. also on the line is rory boland, travel editor for consumer watchdog which?. are you expecting the legs, the beaches of devon and cornwall, norfolk, begin to be busy from today? i would hope not. i think the government guidelines are quite
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clear on this. an numberof an number of local authorities have pleaded with people not to come unto over we ll pleaded with people not to come unto over well the infrastructure they have there. i think we can be hopeful that in the near future uk holidays will come back. the government is saying the 4th ofjuly for hospitality and leisure to reopen. importantly for the for hospitality and leisure to reopen. importantly forthe uk... potentially if the r factor stays under one, there are a number of conditions, that is not a fixed date, is it? no, that is the earliest date they are offering us and it is dependent on those five tests. but we can be hopeful that at some point this summer we will be
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able to enjoy some domestic tourism. as you say, that date may be revised. for now the advice remains not to book. i know that is really difficult for those caravan park owners and b8b owners to hear because they have been some of the first people hit by this disruption and are likely to be the longest hit by the financial disruption it is causing as well. but we really do need to wait before we put any uk holidays until it becomes clear that we can take them. we know that lots of people who had previous bookings that had to be cancelled have found it difficult to get their money back. going back briefly to the rules. from today in england you can travel to national parks or beaches. yes, you can go to national parks and beaches. you should not be travelling to wales or scotland, because their rules are different, andindeed because their rules are different, and indeed northern ireland. but those local authorities have said to people, and there are many of them
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who do not want you to drive long distances, they do not want you to drive 100 miles up to the lake district, and the reasons for that are spreading the virus around, and those areas do not have the infrastructure, particularly health—wise, to deal with large—scale outbreaks. we know in cumbria that they have one of the largest infection rates in the uk already, so while it may not be definitive in the government's guidance, i think a little bit of common sense, yes, you can go to national parks and beaches, but please try to go to the ones nearest to you, do not drive long distances. 0k. to you, do not drive long distances. ok. thank you very much. i wish you all the best. the department for culture is a people with holiday homes are still not permitted to travel to their second homes or stay overnight. leaving the place you live to stay in another home is not allowed.
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a couple of months ago, any parent of a sick or injured child wouldn't have thought twice about taking them to hospital, if it was necessary. now, fear of coronavirus is causing them to stay away, with addenbrooke's hospital in cambridge seeing less than a third of their usual number of young patients. our science correspondent richard westcott reports. there are plenty of staff on shift and all the safety measures are in place but at this hospital, like many others, staff say fear of the virus is stopping parents bringing their children in. it's a lot quieter. we've got empty beds for the first time in paediatrics. we've not had empty beds for a long time. i mean, you're a nurse but you're also a parent. can you understand why people would be worried, reluctant? totally, totally understand it and we've discussed it with our colleagues and said, "what would we do if our children were sick?" and we've all gone, "oh, no," but we all know the right answer is to seek medical hope when medical help is needed and we would bring our children in.
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keep your eyes still, keep your head still right now, look at my fingers wiggling, that's brilliant, fantastic. they would normally see 80—90 children a day at this time of year. they‘ re currently seeing around 20—30. i didn't want it! including abigail, whose mum was nervous about bringing her in. watching the news, very scared about the number of people dying and all that but then we had to come in. and you're glad you did it? i am very pleased i did, i brought my daughter in and she is getting much better. if you had seen her nine weeks ago, you would understand that she is much better now. because i know she is in good hands and in a better place. initially we were expecting a tsunami of coronavirus cases and what we've seen is a different problem. we've seen children presenting later and sicker, some to our intensive care unit because we think parents are worried about presenting to hospital in the middle of the pandemic. there's another problem too. covid—19 doesn't tend to make children very sick but sepsis,
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appendicitis and pneumonia do, and the symptoms can look the same as the virus. if a child is seriously ill with a cough or a fever or other non—specific symptoms such as abdominal pain, it probably isn't coronavirus and the key is that we want those children to come to hospital as soon as possible. that's what caught natasha out. her sonjack has a rare genetic condition so they are used to hospitals. he's recovered now, but a few weeks ago, he became very ill with what even the doctors initially thought was coronavirus. we went the whole week, you know, thinking, "tthis is covid—19, "we will ride out another day, we will ride out another day," and that kind of suppressed any of my usual gut instincts. but hospital tests showed he didn't have the virus, he had severe pneumonia. i know the covid is in the news, it's what everyone is focusing
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on but if you feel something isn't right, then act on it because i ignored it, i thought i was doing the right thing, it wasn't the right thing. addenbrooke's, like all hospitals, is zoned off — covid patients and the staff treating them are kept well away from these wards. parents like peter, who was in with sonjj, said they felt well protected. he needs his treatment, he'll get it and he gets brilliant treatment here. how has the experience been, actually being in hospital, have you felt safe? yeah, we've been in three different hospitals and every time, as houses. so it's business as usual on these wards. their advice is, if your child is obviously very ill and you're not sure what to do, seek medical help. richard wescott, bbc news, addenbrooke's hospital in cambridge.
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we are switching from bbc one to be right now, so dojoin us. let's bring you the weather as well. it was a chilly start to the day, and remaining cool for the rest of the day. there will be a few showers in the forecast, particularly in the north—east. some of those showers over higher ground could be a bit wintry. elsewhere, a lot of sunshine, cloud here and there, and temperatures only 11—14, but colder along the east coast with brisk wind. cost of about 40 mph. the winds slowly ease a bit and the cloud melts away overnight. under those clear skies we are expecting another cold night with temperatures down to freezing or even lower in rural spots. a touch of frost first thing tomorrow morning, but a lot of sunshine. scotland and northern ireland will cloud over with a few
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showers, largely dry in england and wales. highs of 11—15. goodbye.
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this is bbc news with the latest headlines for viewers in the uk and around the world. a 2% slump in the uk economy because of the coronavirus crisis. it is suffering the sharpest downturn since the financial crisis of 2008. in some sense, they're not a surprise, in common with pretty much every other economy around the world, we're facing severe impact from the coronavirus, you're seeing that in the numbers. up to 8,000 jobs could go at the world's largest tour operator, tui. the anglo—german travel company is cutting costs by 30%. it's back to work for some people in england, but not in the rest of the uk. workers are told to avoid public transport, but if that's not possible to use face coverings and keep their distance from others.

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