this is bbc news with the latest headlines teachers‘ unions in england will hold talks with the government's top scientific advisers today — demanding assurances that it will be safe to open primary schools to more children next month.

people in wales will get more details from the first minister — mark drakeford — this afternoon on how the country might come out of lockdown calls for nhs workers who've treated coronavirus patients to get the same mental health support as soldiers returning from war. it would be like having 15—20 patients who are really on the edge, who are going to die in the next few hours if you don't do anything, every 12 hours. that's how bad it is. doctors have accused some hospital managers of trying to silence them when they raise before that, football clubs for the concerns about personal protective equipment. lower leagues are meeting to see if cafes and restaurants have they can finish the season. mike begun reopening in many busheu parts of australia — they can finish the season. mike bushell is at league 1 rotherham but with limits on the number united. what are their main concerns of customers allowed in. for clu bs united. what are their main concerns for clubs in the lower league? it's and coming up in half an hour we'll be putting your questions on coronavirus to chris hopson — a very different story to that in the premier league. clubs do not get chief executive of nhs providers — and dr andrew preston — the premier league. clubs do not get the big chunk of tv money. 80% of from the university of bath

this clubs income comes from people coming through the turnstiles, fans are sitting in the seats. they've been doing well, sitting in legal, an average of 8900 people here for match days. how do you stage matches behind closed doors which is the plan for when football returns. how do you pay for it when you haven't good morning and got the money coming in, it's not welcome to bbc news. i'm annita mcveigh with the latest complicated maths, especially when developments on the coronavirus it could be complicated, you have to outbreak. unions representing teachers sanitise the stadium, players and officials tested, still staff and and school staff will meet officials tested, still staff and the government's top officials involved, mending lights scientific advisors today, behind me now. there are still as they demand reassurance over people to pay, players contracts the safety of opening schools which run out at the end ofjune. a in england next month. lot of clubs will argue to end the some teachers have expressed concern season now, points per game, that social distancing will be difficult to implement and have nullifying it, worst case scenario questioned whether staff should be given ppe. for a lot of clubs but its divided a road map setting out how wales opinions. in this meeting getting underway via video conference, clubs could lift lockdown measures will be published by the country's came together, six of them last first minister later. night, to say we have to finish the mark drakeford will explain how restrictions on day—to—day life, season, behind darren mick anthony, schools and businesses

could begin to be eased. the chief executive of peterborough united. fleetwood, oxford, some of nhs workers who've the clubs involved, including treated coronavirus patients should ipswich town, as well as receive the same long—term mental peterborough, one of the season to health support as soldiers be finished, the matches to be returning from conflict. that's the call from a leading played to complete the integrity of psychiatrist who says front line the season but those are clubs with medics are at high risk a vested interest because they have a vested interest because they have of developing post traumatic stress a chance of getting to the disorder. play—offs. so many divided opinions, it could be heated. we'll talk to a and in australia, restaurants, cafes and shops can now lifelong rotherham fan, to get a open in the country's most populous state of new south wales. feeling of the fans. mark chapman, bars and pubs are re—opening as well, but, landlords are only —— margaret chapman. what would you allowed to serve ten like to see an announcement that people at a time. says the season is over or would you ourfirst report agree with the likes of ipswich, this morning is from our portsmouth, whatever it takes, correspondent, charlotte rose. continued the season, pay for it?|j schools in england are counting down the days until some pupils would like to see the season continue, if we are going to go up, could return to the classroom on the first ofjune. go continue, if we are going to go up, 9° up but teaching unions say they want continue, if we are going to go up, go up fairand continue, if we are going to go up, go up fair and square. you accept that might not be viable? it might more reassurance about the risks not be viable but obviously, i agree of transmission of the virus between children and adults. with tony stewart, the chairman. we schools are already taking measures like increased cleaning,

reducing class sizes, should be awarded on merit, the staggering the start and end numberof should be awarded on merit, the of the school day for different number of points. it's the cost, groups of pupils, and creating one—way systems around their sites. isn't it, putting on a game? are you worried financially? we are very but teachers are asking why worried, we are in a much better the government is recommending position than a lot of clubs but people wear face masks on public yes, it's very worrying because a transport and at the supermarket, but not in schools. lot of money is going to be lost if we don't get the same support as the we've always said that we very much hope to see schools returning premiership, financially. but in the week of the first ofjune. because there are a lot of clubs who and we will continue to work are probably worse off than us with unions but also financially, my concern is will a lot of those clubs end up going the many other school bodies to make sure that schools return same way as bury went, that can be in a phased, considered, and controlled way. making sure that the safety of both devastating. i've been involved with children and those who work in schools are our top priority. some of the fans, dry to support the later today, welsh first minister community, it was absolutely mark drakeford is due to set out devastating. the laws that we've plans for the easing of the lockdown in wales but emphasising the need seen. you know what it's like when for continued caution. there's no support for the community, when sport is the heart and soul of the community like rotherham. and you find that with a

lot of clubs, we are a family, we unlike the westminster government, stick together. the prospect of next he won't be setting out a timetable for lifting restrictions on schools and businesses. but like england, it's expected to use a traffic light system based season, all of the season, part of on the rate of infection. although that rate is slowing the season are notable. it's across the four nations of the uk, yesterday's figures showed a28 people had died from covid—19 absolutely frightening but what can in the past 2a hours, we do. we have to hope at some point taking the total to 33,614. the swab goes right we do. we have to hope at some point to the back of the throat... we get food bowel bag. as a fan, would you like clarity, time is of the results of a swab test survey on 11,000 people in england showed the essence, talking about training that around one in 400 people coming back a week on monday, things are agreed, the season not starting are currently infected. until midjune. are agreed, the season not starting until mid june. —— football coming around 0.27% of the population. back. we need clarity and clarity new figures released by nhs england also revealed that more than a quarter of those who died moving forward. margaret, thank you. from the virus had diabetes. we don't know whether that is no definite confirmation there will type one or type two. bea no definite confirmation there will be a decision today, it could roll last night, thousands of people came into next week, and a lot of vfl out once again to clap for carers. clubs looking to see what the premier league does because they need to see if they're going to get money handed down from of the horns toot. it was the eighth week that premier league decides but it will people took to the streets bea premier league decides but it will be a heated video conference, to mark their appreciation for workers on the frontline. underway right now, between the

lower league clubs and the afl. mike, thank you. i wonder how long it will be before we hear the roar across the uk, and from up high, and below deck, people from the terraces again. on bbc showed their support for those news, it's time for your questions still battling against the virus. answered. charlotte rose, bbc news. 0ur political you've been sending in lots of questions about the situations you're in during the coronavirus pandemic and here to try and answer correspondent iain watson them is chris hopson, joins us from westminster. the government taking a different approach to reopening schools, more chief executive of nhs providers. and i'm also pupils compared to scotland, wales, joined by dr andrew preston from the department of biology and biochemistry and northern ireland. is this more at the university of bath. thank you both for being with us. about policy, do you think or is it about policy, do you think or is it about a different interpretation of the scientific data? well, were supposed to see the same scientific data but i think at the moment, it's just before we get into questions from the viewers, i want to ask you a situation where the devolved about a story we are carrying today, administrations are doing two different things, one is they are doctors have accused some hospital saying the infection rates there may managers of trying to silence them be higher, may be behind the peak, when they raise concerns about which we have seen in the south—east

of england. but in addition to that, personal protective equipment. bbc newsnight finding the doctor's association in the uk warning that they are also, i think, taking a stopping doctors speaking about more cautious approach when it comes to negotiating with some of the risks, it risks a culture of fear trade unions. the welsh first minister mark drake ford said he and self—censorship which could wa nted minister mark drake ford said he wanted to be absolutely confident ultimately threaten patient safety. that not just the wanted to be absolutely confident that notjust the unions but also what's your reaction to the story?|j pa rents that notjust the unions but also parents will be able to send kids back to school and in england, what think what's your reaction to the story?” think there are always two sides to a story and i thought it was slightly unfortunate to be frank, gavin williamson and the education secretary is stressing is that newsnight, bbc news online story, disadvantaged pupils in particular that's been covering this today, may suffer at the longer schools haven't got the other side of the story. the other side of the story remain closed, he says he agrees with the former labour education is obviously, nhs trust managers secretary david blunkett on that that we represent want to hear point so he wants to try to get the phased reintroduction of schooling concerns and as far as i'm 01’ phased reintroduction of schooling or primary school children and for concerned, there is no attempt to stop people speaking out but i can that reason, he is dry to convince the unions that it save enough to go see why people might interpret some back, hence the meeting with the things that leaders say in trusts as chief medical officer and the chief nursing officer of england and the potentially being muscling. so to trade unions later today so they can give you a couple of examples, the say, perhaps there's an element of first is we know in a crisis it's risk but this is how risk can be managed. 0ne risk but this is how risk can be really important, it's the law that managed. one of the issues is how can you ensure social distancing in

communications are carefully schools, it seems to me the guidance controlled. and what happens is nhs from the department for education england are very specific about who admitted it is impossible to have is able to talk on behalf of the nhs social distancing as we understand it, two metres apart for young and effectively that means trust leaders need to ensure that in terms children, children reception year, perhaps just four years old, the of public utterances on behalf of emphasis was on effectively having the nhs, they go through the appropriate channels. are you smaller class sizes, greater hygiene, keeping children in small groups but the northern ireland absolutely clear if doctors are raising concerns which they think secretary brandon lewis suggested you could have social distancing in schools and schools will be a great affect either the health and safety of them and their colleagues or place for children to learn about social distancing. patients, they should not be in any in terms of how this disease circumstances, threatened with losing theirjobs? of course they and this virus spreads, social distancing is important. shouldn't be and there is very, very we can do that within schools and as they recognise, we can actually continue clear guidance and actually a to help children understand what process that's set up inside the nhs good hygiene means and what that involves, washing hands etc. called freedom to speak up guardians so i think that side which enables people to raise of it is right, it is also right in schools we can concerns but let me give you an have a safe working environment, example of an incident covered quite it's one of the things i know extensively in the media about two schools across the country are looking or three weeks ago. a member of at, the department of education are keen to ensure, we've agency staff felt they were not got a good safe environment both given the personal protection equipment they needed but when we for the children and for the staff. spoke to the trust concerned, what they said was that individual member

interestingly, brandon lewis northern ireland secretary, the of agency staff was demanding a schools are not reopen, but speaking higher level of protection than the on behalf of the uk government but i guidance and every other member of think this emphasises just how easy staff was actually being provided it is to impose a lockdown and how with. they had sought to have a difficult it is to gradually ease off, to gradually lifted because it dialogue with a member of staff and move them to alternative duties but isa off, to gradually lifted because it is a bit ofa off, to gradually lifted because it is a bit of a messy business, partly they refused to do so and it was the because there are concerns in schools about the safety of staff trust responsibility in that case to and pupils but also there's ensure the guidelines were being negotiations the nitty—gritty, is a observed. i coded that as an example, the fact that there usually small class size of 15 children, is are two sides to the story but the it ten that some of the teaching union suggest, and a whole range of bit that's important, every trust leaders knows it's theirjob to other things including getting people back to work, back on public listen carefully to concerns of transport, the government is finding their front line staff and ensure it is quite a rocky road out of appropriate mechanisms are there to lockdown. thank you. be raised. let's get on to the viewers questions. thank you for answering those questions are not important story. the first question for you andrew from a viewer, from carol. she asks why can we not allow a group of teacher saying it's not family and friends in our house but safe to go back to school yet.

are allowed to lead and complete strangers for a house viewing? this comes down to the types of interactions involved with those scenarios. presumably if its we'll talk now to geoff barton, com plete scenarios. presumably if its complete strangers you'd be unlikely to greet them with a hug as she who's the general secretary of the association of school might do with your family and and college leaders, friends so i think the idea is most first to steve chalke — he's the founder of oasis community learning — people, when their house is being which is planning to re—open all 35 viewed, they are out of the of its primary academies next month premises, not interacting with the and why do you think it's safe to strangers and i think estate agents reopen on the 1st ofjune? have been given guidance about and why do you think it's safe to reopen on the 1st ofjune? firstly, cani reopen on the 1st ofjune? firstly, can i say have the greatest respect minimising contamination of the for all those who have concerns house when viewing, not touching around safety, i share those, but things and when people come back in, the second thing, however, although disinfect potential surfaces and for some children they have access door handles for example. i think the situation is presumably you and they are safe and sound and they wouldn't treat your family and are being well fed through the friends when they come round in lockdown, that's not true for many exactly the same way as someone viewing your house. it's all about of the children in our schools, 45% minimising risky interactions and i think the situation is would give of the children in our schools, 45% of our children should have free rise to very, very different school meals but the system to interactions. that's a good way to think about it, we've seen questions deliver them has failed completely. of this nature since the westminster

many of them don't have gardens, government announced this revised guidance, haven't we? as people try they are shut up inside in small, to get their heads around shifting damp, overcrowded conditions and very gradually from this complete this is an incredible strain on them lockdown to something slightly different. absolutely, ithink and their parents and their mental health and we are being asked by lockdown to something slightly different. absolutely, i think most pa rents to people's questions are based on the health and we are being asked by parents to reopen schools, in fact, we have kept some of them open throughout. social distancing idea that perhaps now that we are easing restrictions, has the risk but how will it look then? how will gone away and of course it hasn't. all of these easing of restrictions the classes, when the schools reopened, look, will you have are still based on minimising the smaller class sizes? yes. we have 35 numbers of interactions, people maintaining physical distancing and it's important to keep that message primary schools, every building is clear. absolutely. chris, question different so what we've done is a from paul. who asks what is unique risk assessment of each building. some have wide corridors, unacceptable death rate for the government to lockdown completely? some do not, some have some oversized classrooms, some do not, that's a very stark phrase, some have one or a cce pta ble that's a very stark phrase, acceptable death rate, but ultimately, governments around the oversized classrooms, some do not, some have one 01’ two oversized classrooms, some do not, some have one or two entrances, some have multiple entrances, we can world a re ultimately, governments around the world are asking that question, split the day and cut down the day, looking at the balance between this is for children and parents who wa nt to this is for children and parents who easing restrictions and how many want to come under not worried and we are not insisting that any staff people are dying from this virus.

member or any child comes back, yes, clearly, i'm nota there is no pressure whatsoever. but representative of the government so we do however note that many of our i cannot fully explain their thinking but as you say, they are kids have stopped learning and do not have the opportunity to do that trying to balance a number of different factors, as we look at and we are equally worried about the six months they might spend out of easing lockdown. the first is clearly we want to minimise the school. we are responding to pa rental school. we are responding to number of deaths, we want to protect parental voices. we are going to the nhs but equally, at the same come back to that detail, steve, i time, we know it's a health point, promise you but i want to letjeff burton come in, and good morning to there are economic, social and you. steve has been quoted as saying health consequences of staying in lockdown. what we are trying to do, this morning that what the unions but the government is trying to do are saying is lopsided and fails to is work out how to ease lockdown in a way that meets all of those objectives. there is a picture to recognise the harm being caused to disadvantaged children from missing have in your mind, that of a faulty school, how do you respond? well, i tap, what i'm saying about easing think we've all been saying that, lockdown is what you would ideally wa nt lockdown is what you would ideally want is a tab you could open and art starting point is when it is then you could see what the amount safe for children and when we've got the trust appearance and when we of virus spread is and then you'd wa nt to know we can do the logistical of virus spread is and then you'd want to be able to close it quickly planning. of course children need to if you thought it was going to great be in school and the disadvantaged but it's not a perfect tap and what and vulnerable, as steve says, will be suffering under it being at home you can do is open it up, you don't really know what's going to happen

and not at school but the only thing and the problem is if you open it up i would say, as a head teacher for 15 years, the decisions i had to too quickly, when you try and turn it off there's probably a lag make did not risk people's lives. if between turning it off and the i chose to close the school because number of cases of virus spread of snow i got a pummelling in the occurring. we just need to recognise press but this requires a knowledge if that is the situation, the thing which i do not have and that's why the meeting today with the to do is probably twist the tap a scientific specialists ought to give tiny bit each time, see what happens us scientific specialists ought to give us the scientific specialists ought to give us the reassurance scientific specialists ought to give us the reassurance about what the and then when you are confident you social distancing will look like in can turn the tap bit faster, you can school, what are transmission rates from children to adults and other do so but what you mustn't do is things legitimately from parents and turnit do so but what you mustn't do is turn it too quickly because she won't be able to turn it off again the teaching profession are quite and be confident what the results rightly asking. you have said in the are. that is a useful image but i unions have said there must be think in terms of the question, no clear, robust guidance, what about government anywhere is going to say as overtly as that, to quote the the current guidance, is it not clear and robust to you and the question, an acceptable death rate second part of the question what level at which the government might would you need to hear from the scientific advisers today to ease lockdown completely. andrew, convince you that there could be a elaine asks, my husband is 77 and i return, a broader return to school injune? return, a broader return to school in june? i think the first thing to say is lots of schools are am 72, both healthy. the information we are being given is very continuing to be working at the moment, we need to acknowledge that confusing. are we allowed to have for those priority people's, it is a increased exercise now? again,

kind of business as usual, and a tribute to all of those teachers but perhaps, let's distinguish between exercise and perhaps what they mean the questions we are asking are hindered by your second question. if is going out. it's possible to exercise within your home, if you we are talking about social distancing and if that's important have a garden, you should be able to in schools, what does that mean in five of the government choose to safely exercise and in terms of bring reception and year one, the going out, both would still count in very youngest children back for us the vulnerable category, we know what we said, we understand all of there is a very strong age that, why don't you start with year determinate to the severity with five, they are old enough to understand social distancing, which people can suffer from covid they've got a lot of their 19 disease. the other thing to curriculum to continue with and your six, yearten, year12, it's not consider is even if you think you like anyone is putting up barriers can go out of the house in a very that these are legitimate questions as to what teachers should wear, safe fashion, you can be absolutely sure you're not going to interact or like in france, they were two face need to interact with people if masks a day, one in the morning and something happens. the otherfactor another in the afternoon, should we do that here and if not can you now is as restrictions are starting explain what's different here than to be eased, i suspect more people in france? all of them seem to be will be out and about, the chances bitterly reasonable and if we come out of those meetings and are of coming across other people are assured all of those questions are going to increase over the next few answered, that will be a great day as we start gradually to bring young weeks. fortunately, the safest people back to school. steve, how advice is if you are still in the many of your staff support a return vulnerable category, the advice on the 1st ofjune, can you give me hasn't changed which is to continue a ballpark figure in terms of

percentage? i cannot give you your shielding period. it's about continuing caution and keeping that figures but i know that our staff, many of our staff, asjeff says, distance. matthew asks, can you many of our staff, asjeff says, many of our schools have not closed travel from england to scotland or a nyway many of our schools have not closed anyway so it's many of our schools have not closed anyway so its business as usual and an immediate family members funeral there is a huge enthusiasm on behalf during lockdown? i think the advice on the part of our staff to serve the kids. i take on board everything to give is people need to look at thatjeff says, i agree with at all, the detailed guidance and the of course i do, we don't want to put complicating factor here is you need to look at two sets of guidance anyonepos macro life at risk in any way and is one of your which is england and scotland. i've done that and the conclusions i've correspondence said earlier it's going to be a rocky road back to being fully open. we'll start be drawn because the problem is you cannot specify every single wearing ppe? i'm sorry? will individual personal circumstance in the guidance but i've looked at the guidance and what it says is in teachers and other start be wearing protective equipment? we are scotland, in terms of the funeral involved in all of those discussions, it's the middle of may, guidance, you are allowed to attend we have half a month still to read funerals but you need to observe the fine detail of getting ready for this but what i can assure you is no social distancing. you need to think very carefully about attending, for one ‘s health will be put at risk example, you are part of a high risk whether that's a child or a staff group so! example, you are part of a high risk group so i don't know this member or a parent. because parents particular question, i don't know his age but you need to think about will be at the school gates as well carefully attending a funeral, if so that's another thing to think

about. i agree with everything that your household —— member of your jeff said and we respect everything house of symptomatic, you should not the unions are doing but we also attend. the scottish first minister has been very clear as far as the know that we have to put the safety scottish government is concerned you of our children and offer them some can travel across the border for hope, some education and some nutritious food. what will happen, essential activities, if you were south of the border and the nearest supermarket is over in scotland, 0k, nutritious food. what will happen, ok, you are going to have smaller class sizes. but what will happen if loss of sound. what you can't do is concerns are raised about a case of travel across the border to a beauty coronavirus in one of the families, spot, doesn't say whether a funeral is an essential activity, my for example? what mechanisms which assumption is it would be but i you then have in place to respond to suggest the questioner read both sets of guidance, my conclusion is a situation like that quickly? well, yes you are but i think you should ta ke yes you are but i think you should take responsibility for drawing your we've been working with all of our own conclusions. i want to try and families, i shouldn't say, all of squeeze in a few more questions if i them, we've been working with the vast majority of our families can. if we can keep the answer is a throughout the entire period of lockdown, we are ringing them, we little bit shorter for these next are talking to them. there is a few. we can't get through some more. homework online, that's why we know so many are not picking that up andrew, for you, from tom, before the lockdown was implemented, because they don't have digital access in that way. so we are temporarily moved into a family home ina uk delivering meals. we are a daily temporarily moved into a family home in a uk region to be with my parents

come under the current rules am i allowed to return to my original talking about children so we now and home? if you don't need to then i guess the recommendation is still our staff will have daily no, we are trying to minimise unnecessary travel and unnecessary safeguarding and risk assessment conferences, individually, for each interactions. so on that basis, the school, as we have done to get us to a nswer interactions. so on that basis, the this point. we are not doing answer would be no. chris, from anything blanket, the way of therese, what is stopping the operating in each and every one of government nhs england etc from using the nightingale hospital as our schools will be different. depending on its context, its isolation hospitals are covid 19 buildings, its staff, the number of only allowing our permanent hospitals to get back to dealing children, a number of entrances. so what i can assure you of is that we safely and separately with cancer treatment, other treatment and have a large organisation of operations people are waiting for.l good question. it is a very good committed, dedicated professionals with the expertise needed and note question and the answer is clearly these were created in a very short life will be put at risk at all. space of time, temporary facilities, jeff, i'm interested to get your not permanently built hospitals. response to what stebe saying, given that many of the teachers that you these are literally in the process and other unions represent saying it's not yet safe to return. we just of working for the nhs, what we use those hospitals for. for the duration of the next few months, we need to remind ourselves that you will be using them appropriately. have got 22,000 schools in england. finally, andrew, very good question

and some of them have got the kind from a viewer who says is there any of resources that steve is, some of news on visiting family them haven't, they will all have their own context and i think what will be difficult for parents and other people, if it looks like school a on the side of town is not at the moment, we know there is opening but school b is not, that's still a major problem in terms of disease within care homes. why i think we have to work collaboratively. we have to work restricting the interactions in and towards bringing young people in but out of those is still absolutely on behalf of every teacher and every critical to protecting those within them, so, no change in guidance at other memberof on behalf of every teacher and every other member of staff, whether they them, so, no change in guidance at are in the smallest primary school are in the smallest primary school the moment. doctor andrew preston are the biggest academy trust, we have to make sure we have the and chris hopson, thank you both reassuring answers to the questions very much indeed for answering those that are not part of our gift and i questions today and thank you to you for sending them in. don't think we will be ever able to say there are no risks attached to this so ultimately we will be making a judgement about the level of risk, pa rt of a judgement about the level of risk, part of which is what steve says, the risk of children not coming back doctors speaking out to school. there are no simple in public about ppe shortages solutions but with wales, northern are being silenced by hospital ireland, scotland doing something managers and in some cases else, parents are already wondering threatened with theirjobs, an investigation by bbc why we should resend our parents newsnight has found. back our children back. will parents

the doctors association uk have warned that stopping doctors speaking out risks a "culture of fear and self—censorship" and have the confidence to actually send could threaten patient safety. their children in? do you think if jenny vaughan is policy lead at doctor's association uk, shejoins me now. unions get the answers to those questions you outlined from the government scientific advisers today that we could see more schools reopening in june and thank you very much for coming along that we could see more schools reopening injune and currently we to talk about this today. what are are hearing about? i do. i think your concerns and what is the thatis evidence that you have which has led are hearing about? i do. i think that is the response the department has given us in response to us to you making this statement? welcome as you no, we're in the saying we need to have some biggest public health crisis for 100 scientific expertise, they are yea rs, biggest public health crisis for 100 years, with a highly infectious lining up the scientific experts for us lining up the scientific experts for us to meet today so that is an disease, and ppe, otherwise known as excellent response. we've put the personal protective equipment, is questions there, we will be able to especially important for frontline staff. it is also important for ask the questions and get the patients, it is patient safety at answers on behalf of the profession. matter, you don't want infections that ought to mean, i hope, we can going to patience, you don't want start to move to a phased reopening, patients infecting staff. and it's i think everyone needs to understand vital that staff can't speak out so what that won't mean it is all of that actually you know where the those reception, year one, year six gaps are. you have to keep people will automatically come straight safe. and what our questionnaire away come back in because there will showed is that there are worrying of be staff in schools who are themselves vulnerable to the

disease, they might be diabetic harassment and bullying, and living in vulnerable households. so frankly, this is something that it will be a phased return but i we're frankly, this is something that we' re frankly, this is something that we're very, very concerned about. hope that return can start from the 1st ofjune hope that return can start from the 1st of june and hope that return can start from the 1st ofjune and we can reassure parents it's safe to drop off their has anything that you have heard from the nhs, from trusts, child. steve, you said earlier, there is concern about schools reopening early in june overnight, has anything reassured you that people who want to blow the there is concern about schools reopening early injune is largely a middle—class concern, is it really whistle, who have concerns, will not about class? surely parents who be silenced, and will not lose their would not describe themselves as jobs? no, we need to give them a middle class are equally as concerned, yes of course they are chance, and it is quite clear that concerned, yes of course they are concerned about their children ‘s some trusts are engaging in best education but surely first and practice, and other trusts need to foremost, they are concerned about be brought up. ijust want to give their children ‘s well—being? you a statement from one of them that gives you the flavour. the absolutely and any little sound bite study itself was not biased, lifted out of context can do an although it was small in numbers, injustice to the speaker. which is just over 150, what was interesting why i'm giving you the opportunity is that just over 50% to talk about it. yes, of course and just over 150, what was interesting is thatjust over 50% of the people who replied to it had not had any i appreciate that. i think the fact concerns. clearly some trusts are doing it right but some are not and is to state something i said again, we also surveyed nurses and people 45% of our children are eligible for in the community. ijust want we also surveyed nurses and people in the community. i just want to give you some of the things people free school meals, the average said. one in six were challenged and

figure is 15.7%, in other words, we possibly disciplined and of the 50% who said that they had experienced work only in poor and disadvantaged pressure not to go public, a third communities. i'm sat at the moment of those felt bullied. and here is in my little study, i'm looking out what one of them said... i felt at our tiny garden in central london, i've got access digitally bullied by my senior colleagues who we re bullied by my senior colleagues who were insistent i carried out certain which i'm demonstrating to you right procedures without the right ppe. i now, i've got various devices, more than i can use at any one time! many felt threatened at the time, i have of our children don't enjoy any of never been made to feel like this in such a way out work before. 0n those things, if you are living on floor ten of a tower block without a never been made to feel like this in such a way out work before. on a day—to—day basis, i don't feel that balcony, you are not going out, we are being protected. four to five there's not a park nearby, if you no nurses all wearing facemasks on our ward in the same week have since digital access to the mental health issues for you and your parents are tested positive. these people are putting their lives on the line, it considerable. that's what i mean is very important that they can about, i'm in a privileged position speak up, it only takes us ignoring and can take a more relaxed view of one or two people to get a health this. covid 19 has attacked those scandal. we have had lots of those that are most vulnerable, it's recently and we must learn that you have to protect these people, you caused mental health issues for have to protect these people, you those who are most crammed in, it's have to protect these people, you have to listen to them. this is not the approach to deal with a caused nutrition issues for those pandemic. you need clarity, you need who don't have access to food and transparency, you do not need it's some of those injustices that we obviously are set up to address, bullying and obfuscation. so, we are

looking for a very clear response from the covenant on this so that we that's what we do all the time and can keep our staff safe. we have it's what we want to do now but i lost over 150. and our patients think absolutely, i take on board safe. it is purely a safety matter, every word of whatjeff says and it is not a political matter. we don't want to emerge from it at all. wait to hear that response. we have to do this well, we have to a department of health spokesperson do it gradually and i think it's responded to the story important to build the confidence of saying "whistleblowers perform a vital and courageous service children, staff and parents across in ensuring safe care and no one these coming months. we will leave should ever be prevented from speaking up, or discriminated it there. thank you both very much against if they do". the first estimates of the effect of the coronovirus pandemic on germany's economy — for your thoughts, great to hear europe's biggest — have been released this morning their perspective from the school side of things and from the unions. and suggest it shrank by more thank you again. the first minister of wales, mark drakeford, will today set out than 2% in the first a plan for how wales quarter of this year. it's a smaller drop could exit its coronavirus lockdown. than france or italy — wales, along with scotland but germany's shutdown only started and northern ireland, in late march. has kept its ‘stay home' it is pretty much in line with restrictions in place while england has started to ease the lockdown. expectation, in the first quarter, mr drakeford is not expected german gdp shrank by 2.2%, which is to give any firm dates, but will warn that people will have what was expected. the big problem

to learn to live with will be in the next quarter. this covid—19 in society. this morning he told us wales first quarter only included a couple will be taking a cautious approach of weeks of lockdown. 0f and monitoring the rate first quarter only included a couple of weeks of lockdown. of course, the of infection closely. lockdown came mostly in the second quarter, so that is going to be the we are using a traffic light system. really big one. 0verall, over the we are saying to people here, we are in lockdown at the moment. coming year, until 2020, there are the first thing we will do fears that the german economy could is to move into the shrink by more than 6%, and that red zone. would be more than it shrank in the it won't look very different financial crisis, mainly because it to what we are doing now, it will be is problematic for germany to carry the careful, cautious, first steps that we can take together. on with exports, with border we will monitor that really carefully, provided the virus doesn't start restrictions, and people here are circulating again we'll be able to very nervous about their own income and so consumers are spending less, move into the amber zone. the amber zone, there but overall, when you compare will be more things that people can do, meeting friends and families, germany with other european schools beginning to reopen. countries, it is not doing as badly. going shopping, all that is partly because germany has those normal things. again, monitor it really carefully. been hit less badly by the government itself, but also because of government spending, the and if we are successful government hasn't spent a lot. we and the virus remains must leave it there, damien under control, we are into the green mcguinness, let's check out the weather now. zone, the green zone will look quite weather mcguinness, let's check out the weather now. the second half of the

like life before coronavirus spring season has been especially started, but not identical to it. dry, little change to that four southern areas over the next five because until we have a vaccine or really effective treatment, coronavirus is with us days, but this chart shows rainfall for a long time to come. amounts over the next five days, notice how the wetter weather returns over the north. and we could let's go to cardiff and talk to our correspondent tomos morgan — have up to two inches of rain, and just remind us what the current most of that will fall in these restrictions are like at the moment areas on sunday. a few more showers and how it differs from other parts of the uk will continue. the vast majority at the moment, the changes came into force on monday, mark and redford will continue. the vast majority will be dry. after a sunny start to and the welsh government said recycling centres could reopen, the afternoon, there will be a bit garden centres could reopen and more cloud about. temperatures close people could go out to exercise more to where they should be for the time of the year. colder weather remains than once a day. but differently to across shetland. that will continue england, boris johnson said than once a day. but differently to england, borisjohnson said people can go in their cars, go further afield to exercise, the welsh government said that is not the case as we go into tonight. further in wales, we are being more south, most places will be dry with stringent with restrictions, people partly clear skies, but the big have to exercise locally and people difference with recent nights, it is cannot stay away from their own home not going to be as cold. the frost overnight. this has caused some confusion amongst the public because is gone, at least for the when borisjohnson confusion amongst the public because foreseeable, temperatures well above when boris johnson made confusion amongst the public because when borisjohnson made his announcement on sunday, there was freezing in most parts of the uk.

frustration by the welsh government that boris johnson did notjust freezing in most parts of the uk. not just cold freezing in most parts of the uk. frustration by the welsh government that borisjohnson did not make it notjust cold tomorrow morning, still a bit of a chill in the air. a clear that his changes were lot of dry weather around. the referring to just england alone. it's the welsh government that made showers continue in the north and the changes, that make the decisions west of scotland. temperatures very for what happens here in wales and they have said anyone crossing the border into wales will be turned back and will be fined if they are deemed to be travelling similarto west of scotland. temperatures very similar to today. staying cold in unnecessarily in wales. today, as shetland. 0n you mentioned, we won't be hearing a similar to today. staying cold in shetland. on sunday, we should see the high pressure which has kept timetable on the easing of things largely drive pushing a bit restrictions from the first theresa may redford but what we will hear —— further southwards, allowing milder atla ntic further southwards, allowing milder atlantic air to come in, but also these weather fronts, which will first minister mark drake forward. but people here what comes into the bring rain across the highlands and islands of scotland on sunday. a different categories as each level comes into force, the traffic light little bit of rain elsewhere across system. we spoke to the first eastern scotland at times. and northern ireland will see rain, and minister over a week—and—a—half ago, theissue minister over a week—and—a—half ago, the issue of second homes and people go. further south, the dry story travelling overnight was an issue, burning topic in wales, a number continues, increasing sunshine, and temperatures back above 20 degrees. along the west coast in north wales, moving into next week, as the high he didn't see that anything like pressure starts to build back in once again, the rain in scotland that will be coming in the red zone of the easing restrictions and maybe eases, high pressure becomes not even the amber, you can see the established, and around it we start

to drag in more of a southerly flow difference between wales and ofair, and england, quite starkly. the other in to drag in more of a southerly flow of air, and that will bring ever—increasing temperatures. by stark contrast is of course when it wednesday, temperatures could be comes to schools, the welsh widely into the 20s. government saying categorically schools will not be opening on the 1st ofjune. you had a little bit of a head this morning saying some children may come back before the summer holidays but in reality, it's looking increasingly more likely that certainly in wales, just like probably will be the case in some of the other devolved nations, most children won't be returning to school before the summer holidays. thank you very much come up with that look ahead to what the welsh first minister will be saying later on today. about easing the lockdown. people in the australian state of new south wales are able to go out for a meal or a drink for the first time in weeks as it begins to ease coronavirus restrictions. bars, cafes, restaurants and shops have been allowed to reopen as long as they apply strict hygiene and social distancing rules. people can now have up to five visitors at their homes and families can take their children

to playgrounds again. 0ur correspondent, shaimaa khalil has been to a bar in sydney which reopened earlier. you can't sit at the bar and have a drink but what you can do is sit in this is bbc news with the latest the dining area and have a meal and headlines for viewers in the uk a drink which many people have been and around the world. doing at this local pub in central syd ney doing at this local pub in central sydney neighbourhood. we can't quite show you the dining area because it's actually at a maximum of ten teachers' unions in england will hold talks with the government's top scientific people just now. people it's actually at a maximum of ten peoplejust now. people have been given slots of 1—2 hours and they've advisers today — demanding assurances that it will be safe been fully booked here, they've been to open primary schools to more children next month. turning people away who showed up, but one academy founder calls that's how excited people are to be out and about. all through the opposition "rather middle class" morning we've seen people as you say for some children, excitedly going to sit down and have they have digital access a coffee and eat in a cafe as well. and they are safe and they are sound at the ten people rule applies and they are being well fed through the lockdown, that is not really to all public spaces. cathy s true for many of the kids and children in our school. people in wales will restau ra nts, really to all public spaces. cathy s get more details from restaurants, shops, places of the first minister, worship, big day for families mark drakeford, this afternoon because playgrounds are open, its on how the country might come out of lockdown

back to the swings for the children. it's all quite business as usual but europe's biggest economy, germany, has shrunk by more than 2% it's a sigh of relief are many people here. —— it's not quite business as usual. many people working towards easing the rules and reopening the economy. nhs staff on the frontline of the pandemic should receive the same mental health support as soldiers returning from a war zone. that's the view of a leading psychiatrist who says workers are at risk of developing post traumatic stress disorder if they don't get long—term care. 0ur health correspondent anna collinson reports. hello? don't mind me. treating coronavirus has been a challenge like no other, with staff risking their own lives to save others. pressures on hospitals may be starting to ease, but it's been relentless. it would be like having a terrorist attack, you know, at the door of the hospital every day, twice a day, for months. that's the magnitude of it.

it would be like having 15, 20 patients who are really on the edge, who are going to die in the next few hours if you don't do anything every 12 hours. that's how bad it is. there is no real down time for me or the other staff. we don't reflect or process things. i think this may have long—term consequences on our physical and mental health. sometimes the constant pressure gets too much. we're alljust doing what we can to save people's loved ones. some don't like the use of war language to talk about the coronavirus, but we've been told the mental health problems that nurses and doctors could experience may be similar to that of troops returning from a war zone. it's argued that the critical moment for treatment will be when the pressure subsides and life returns to a new normal.

inspired by his military back ground, a mental health advisor to the nhs says a robust long—term plan is needed to prevent staff developing conditions like post—traumatic stress disorder. it's what happens after the trauma that is most predictive of what people will be like in terms of their mental health. if it's not done well, if we muck it up, then actually that's going to really make the trauma they've already had much more difficult to deal with. professor greenberg says when covid pressures subside, workers should receive an official acknowledgement for their work, they should take leave followed by a slow introduction into their new role, and they should undergo regular mental health screenings for at least a year. but an nhs mental health service wants a more varied long—term support plan so it can suit different needs, from care workers to call handlers. every single member of the nhs

should have access to a confidential psychological health service that is fast access for them because if they're having to wait in a queue behind everyone else then i think is putting them at more risk. and is it ready them now? so there is a lot already in train. i think more needs to come. all four health services in the uk are currently providing workers with mental health support via phone and online. formal long—term plans are varied, with northern ireland offering the most detail. there's currently overwhelming support for our carers, but it's claimed a better way to thank them will be the availability of professional help for years to come — after the clapping has stopped. 00:31:42,504 --> 4294966103:13:29,430 anna collinson, bbc news.