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tv   The Papers  BBC News  May 17, 2020 11:30pm-11:46pm BST

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hello and welcome to our look ahead to what the papers will be bringing us tomorrow. with me are broadcaster and psychotherapist, and john rentoul chief political commentator at the independent. tomorrow's front pages, starting with the daily mail runs with the government's suggestion that 30 million brits could get a vaccine by september. the i leads on workers unions claiming the ‘prime minister's safety inspections at work don't exist‘. ‘getting back on tracks‘ is the metro‘s headline — as 70% of rail services are restored tomorrow. the times says that tough quarantine plans for holidaymakers could scupper summer travel plans.
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the telegraph‘s headline is ‘risk of virus spreading in schools is very low‘. whereas the mirror ask ‘are our kids safe or not, mr gove?‘ — as the debate over schools reopening continue. the independent says that hospitals have been refusing reuqests for ceasarian —— caesarean births, despite nhs england advcie that they should continue. and‘ministers under fire amid chasos over contact rtracing‘ is the headline in the guardian. starting with the daily mail with 30 million vic for —— britons getting jabs if a vaccine is found. indeed. it isa jabs if a vaccine is found. indeed. it is a headline that could have been written some time ago, some weeks ago that we have heard about
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this vaccine being developed at 0xford, which could theoretically be available as early as september. an ambitious timetable. but what is important about it today and the reason the daily mail has put it on the front page is that the government has done a deal with the pharmaceutical company to produce 30 million doses of the vaccine which means half the country would be able to be inoculated which, if that happens, in big letters, if, then that would be a significant step forward. you have used if and could. lucy, your turn. i could try to think of something different to say but the headline is so conditional. how successful does this vaccination have to be ? how successful does this vaccination have to be? if you have it you want
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to know that it renders you immune from acquiring the virus. but we mustn't make the mistake of thinking this will eliminate the virus because i don't think, apart from smallpox, we have never eradicated a virus completely and we have all had vaccinations to go on overseas trips to protect ourselves from getting something but it does not mean that that yellow fever or typhoid has been eliminated around the world. so i would like to think that the threshold for success and to whether they could roll this out in some timbre which is not that long away, is to make sure that it works and keeps you protected but let's not think that it is to have a grand ambition. the headline may be did not need to be as conditional as it is. an interesting point. the next
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newspaper looks at the transmission of the virus. headline is about the risk of the virus spreading in schools, based on an australian study. a new study which i had not heard of before of actual schools and tracing what has happened to some cases of coronavirus in schools. saying that not many people, it was not transmitted to many other people in those specific settings which is good news because thatis settings which is good news because that is a huge debate in this country about what will happen in two weeks time when some schools are supposed to go back to limited reopening. that is encouraging. all the others seem to be that the children do get it although they don‘t suffer from it and they are not particularly super spreaders.
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and that is the key point, obviously. science shows they may not suffer but whether or not they transmitted is a key point is the government looks to reopen. michael govein government looks to reopen. michael gove in this studio said that the evidence for children spreading was low and the who chief scientist suggest there is no evidence at the moment that children are super spreaders so that is why the telegraph leads with that. spreaders so that is why the telegraph leads with thatm spreaders so that is why the telegraph leads with that. it is an important study because previous studies, the one in iceland for example, actually talks and explores about children transmitting to their parents. teachers were arguing that there was not enough evidence as to what was happening in schools. we have that information now and nobody will be able to completely eliminate all risk but what one hopes is that the teachers unions can go from
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being obstructive and it won't do to being obstructive and it won't do to being a bit more can do about this and in lockstep with the government to ensure that our children, the future generations of this nation are actually getting the education that they deserve and not just the education but also the socialisation skills, the boost to their mental health that hanging out with their peergroup health that hanging out with their peer group brings them and for vulnerable children, those who may be do not get fed at home and are surviving on one school meal a day or people in an environment of domestic violence, all these children is currently at risk and it really shocks me that the teaching unions too, i understand our pretraining —— are trying to protect their members, but it is almost as if they are putting them ahead of
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the children they care for and a study in norway showed that for every week a child misses out on education, their chances of going to university or having a better income later in life are severely diminished so we have to get the schools open by june diminished so we have to get the schools open byjune one. diminished so we have to get the schools open by june one. in your a nswer schools open by june one. in your answer that you called the teachers unions obstructive and john, over the recent days in the newspapers, particularly in the tabloids we see similar descriptions. is that there are teachers unions? i don't know about fair but it is interesting that a number of former education secretaries, mostly labour ones have been extremely rude about the teachers unions and they are just trying to defend interest of their members. but most teachers are not in the risk category and you would have thought that their primary
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obligation should be to the children that they teach but obviously you wa nt to that they teach but obviously you want to make sure that the teaching environment is as safe as possible. moving now to the guardian, ministers underfire moving now to the guardian, ministers under fire over the chaos of co nta ct ministers under fire over the chaos of contact tracing. the guardian says that people are applying to be contact traces and have been told their applications are on hold why their applications are on hold why the government considers an alternative app but a department of health spokesperson told the guardian that the e—mail was wrong and could cause confusion. some confusion. john, i left you hanging, i‘m sorry. lucy. confusion. john, i left you hanging, i'm sorry. lucy. this is a really damning story and quite rightly on the front page of a newspaper. when there is, eventually, an assessment
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of what did go right and did go wrong, i think probably the biggest thing that went wrong was this narrowing of options by the government in terms of how we would deal with the pandemic in the sense of track and trace and testing. and there is a damning report in the british medicaljournal over the weekend looking at public health england and we don't want to unnecessarily lay all the blame for this at their door but there have been some major, on their watch there have been major failings in terms of recruiting people to do the track and test and tracing but also bringing private companies, universities who could have been scaling up the capacity to create these tests and to have people out there in the field conducting these tests and the government just did not think that there was the
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capacity, partly because they did not speak to universities or private companies and therefore they said that will not be an option. it will be locked down or herd immunity. it is as if they did not have the creative thinking to think that there was a third way. john, this is not just about the numbers of people, this is about the exact app that contract tracing will use and nhs have a decentralised app from google. this seems to be some confusion in the government‘s mind as to what app they will use but i don‘t think you should lose sight of the fact that tracking and tracing will not just be the fact that tracking and tracing will notjust be done via an app. most of it will be done by simply asking people who they have been spending time with in the last few days so that you can identify the people they are most likely to have
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infected so that they can be tested and isolated as well. there are bound to be problems in getting large—scale testing up and running and lucy is right to say that the government has probably been too slow on this. and there is chaos, these things are difficult. the independent. 0bama tax from‘s virus response. lucy, you told me that a former head boy should not criticise the next intake. it felt as if 0bama had bizarrely sunk to donald trump 's had bizarrely sunk to donald trump '5 level which, as you pointed out, when michelle 0bama was speaking, three or four years ago, when they go low, we go high. that is very
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inspiring mantra which i assume they lived by as a couple. but maybe this speaks to barack 0bama's exasperation as to what is happening to his own country. you don't necessarily want to sit on your hands and see things going from bad to worse. my one concern was that he did not mention trump by name and one can imagine manyjob supporters trying to pretend that maybe 0bama wasn't even talking about their man. but it is a damning indictment to really say it does not look as if anyone is in charge. john, he has been out of power forjust over three years. would that have made your front three years. would that have made yourfront page? three years. would that have made your front page? the contrast between barack your front page? the contrast between ba rack 0bama your front page? the contrast between barack 0bama and donald trump is so striking and it is so
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striking, not just to trump is so striking and it is so striking, notjust to america but the whole world. it must be very strange being one of those people who has been compared to another because barack who has been compared to another because ba rack 0bama who has been compared to another because barack 0bama and donald trump are like chalk and cheese. a professorial cool and aloof president who all we european liberals loved who is replaced by this at a monster of reality television who americans are divided about. let's go to our final paper now. the times. tough quarantine plans covering holiday hopes. lucy, a lorry driver looks like being 0k to come and go but anyone else has a potential 14 day quarantine in your honour. stressful fourth those of us who are thinking of heading overseas at some point this year. to go on
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holiday and the quarantine may come into effect and it is still not certain, slightly conditional, but the idea is that you would have to do, if you were returning to the country, you would have to wait for 14 days but two—thirds of people coming back in who may be exempt would be lorry drivers and hauliers and people bringing in goods that we wa nt and people bringing in goods that we want to buy, particularly food. but my worry is that if we do that, what other countries around the world going to do? will they look at us and think we're too strict or too lax? i don't know. quo situation in place for their own quarantine measures? —— will they have a quid pi’o measures? —— will they have a quid pro quo situation? that does not make sense to me. if you let
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two—thirds of people through then putting the rest in 14 days of quarantine seems extreme and it will not make a substantial difference to the risk of infection. back to the daily telegraph for an amusing picture. a couple taking no chances, wrapping a plastic windbreaker around their heart. as you said earlier, that is what almost every english and british person has to do if they have a holiday in the country. that was my childhood, taking your windbreaker and wrapping it around you, with a howling gale. we will enjoy this as we eat our ham sandwiches. that couple, the plastic is around the sides, but viruses can kind of pop over the top. it is not exactly a foolproof method. it looks very blue
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peter, actually. are you planning a holiday, in one

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