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more than a thousand virus—related deaths have now been recorded in brazil, making it the worst hit country in south america. more than 270,000 infections have also been recorded, placing it behind only the united states and russia. the global pharmaceutical giant johnson &johnson is to stop selling talcum—based baby powder in north america. the company has denied allegations that the powder it uses contains cancer—causing asbestos, but has been taken to court thousands of times over the allegations global carbon emissions fell by more than a sixth at the height of the coronavirus lockdown, according to a new study. the reduction was partly due to fewer cars on the road, with daily emissions down by as much as 17%. but scientists warn the reduction may be temporary.
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you are up—to—date on the headlines. now it's time for a look back at the day in parliament. hello there and welcome to tuesday in parliament, where the chancellor offers a bleak assessment of the cost of the covid—19 shutdown. there will be more hardship to come. this lockdown is having a very significant impact on our economy. we are likely to face a severe recession, the likes of which we haven't seen. there's more criticism of the government over the number of deaths in care homes. ministers have been too slow to tackle the problem in care homes, social care has not had the same priority as the nhs. and how about this as an idea to boost the uk's tourism industry after coronavirus? we could possibly have a bank holiday in october because the industry has sort of lost
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the benefit of the two may bank holidays. the number of people claiming unemployment benefit in the uk jumped to just over two million in april, the first full month of the coronavirus lockdown. the figures come from the office for national statistics. before the lockdown began, employment had hit a record high. well, by coincidence, the chancellor, rishi sunak, was in front of peers on the lords economic affairs committee. and its chair got straight to the point. what do you anticipate the level of unemployment will be in the fourth quarter of this year? i don't have a precise estimate. there are a range that are out there from the bank of england and the 0br. most of them point to around a double—digit percentage unemployment rate. obviously, the numbers you would have seen today showjust under a million new claims in the last month, over 800,000, taking the total number
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of claims up to 2 million. i think the 0br estimate had that tapping out at about 3 million. obviously, the impact will be severe. there were 8 million people who are currently furloughed, and that demonstrates the degree of stress in the labour market and in corporate health. and obviously over time, we hope as many of those people can return to the jobs that they have, and that's very much our ambition and what we put the scheme in place. there will be more hardship to come. this lockdown is having a very significant impact on our economy. we are likely to face a severe recession, the likes of which we haven't seen, and of course that will have an impact on employment. do you accept that the length and depth of that recession you refer to will be very much related to the length of the lockdown? yeah, that's self—evident and indeed is what the obr specifically has said, and indeed the bank of england. i think there's also two things to distinguish. one is the immediacy of the economic impact, the depth of the recession.
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the question that occupies my mind and indeed long—term is probably more relevant is, what degree of long—term scarring is there on the economy as a result of this recession? what is the depth, what is the loss in productive capacity? ultimately, once we recover from this crisis... by nature, i believe it will be temporary, of course. we will suppress the virus, we will progressively now lift the restrictions. the question is, what do we return to? and the question there, the jury is out. the longer the recession, it is likely the degree of that scarring will be greater. so have you done any analysis as to at what point the lockdown measures cause more harm than good? obviously longer term, the economic impact of the lockdown have an impact on her health as well, our ability to finance the nhs, the impact that unemployed will have on people's chronic health conditions.
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there's very good work from the ifs, which have talked about i think around a 2% fall in employment leading to about a million more chronic health issues, for example. so your attitude, really, is you're continuing to do what it takes and we'll have to do with the cost in due course? what i have been trying to do with the interventions is, as we talked about, preserve as much of our productive capacity as we can, keep as many companies in a viable state, keep as many people attached to those companies, so that when the restrictions are released, when the economy can function as normal, we haven't lost a considerable numbers of those jobs and those businesses. because that's what because of the permanent damage or the medium—term damage, and that's what has a significant impact on our public finances. rishi sunak. the coronavirus crisis has overshadowed what used to be
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the main topic of debate at westminster, brexit and the uk's future relationship with the european union. the government says it won't extend the transition period, which means both sides need to agree a deal before the end of this year. michael gove told mps a third round of talks took place last week. negotiators from the uk and the eu held full and constructive discussions last week via video conference. the talks covered trading goods and services, fisheries, law enforcement and criminal justice and other issues, with both sides discussing full legal texts. the discussion underlined that a standard, comprehensive free—trade agreement, alongside other key agreements — on law enforcement, civil, nuclear and aviation — all in line with the political declaration, could be agreed without major difficulties in the time available. there remain, however, some areas where we have significant difference of principle, notably on fisheries, governance arrangements and the so—called level playing field. the eu essentially wants us to obey the rules of their club even though we're no longer members and they want the same access
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to our fishing grounds as they currently enjoy while restricting our access to their markets. the government remains committed to a deal with a free—trade agreement at its core and we look forward to the fourth round of negotiations beginning on the 1st ofjune. but success depends on the eu recognising that the uk is a sovereign equal. he'd been summoned by his opposite number, rachel reeves, who'd asked an urgent question about the brexit talks. peace in northern ireland was hard—won. we must notjeopardise it. injanuary, the prime minister guaranteed unfettered access to the goods moving between britain and northern ireland. last week, it was revealed that the government would implement checks on some products crossing the irish sea and that there would be new infrastructure at ports coming from mainland britain to northern ireland. so can the minister confirm whether these additional checks are being planned for, when the road map for implementing the protocol will be published?
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peace in northern ireland, she's absolutely right, is critical. and we will shortly be publishing a framework document on how we intend to implement the protocol in order to ensure that we have unfettered access for goods from northern ireland to great britain and we preserve the gains of the peace process. i believe that the minister, like me, believes that the customs compliance obligations under the protocol can be implemented without new physical inspections or infrastructure at northern ireland ports, so in that case, will he intervene hmrc to stop them making preparations for new physical inspections and infrastructure in northern ireland ports? my right honourable friend makes a very important point. we are one customs territory — the protocol makes that clear. and we will shortly be publishing further details about how we can ensure that northern ireland can benefit from that. the snp accused the government of pursuing a hard brexit. is it the case this government is doing nothing than playing political games with the futures of millions of people by pursuing
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this anti—eu agenda at all costs? as the rest of the would will get around to putting in place their various recoveries, this government will still be blaming barney as the good ship brittania hits that brexit iceberg. given even that dogs in the street know this government is making a pig's ear of these negotiations, with its petulant demands and its rewriting of agreements, yet it's still all the eu's fault? for goodness' sake, for the good of all of our constituents, will he just stop, seek that extension and engage in these negotiations like a grown—up? i'm grateful for that intervention from the honourable gentleman. he read it beautifully. it could almost have been set to music. now, the government has faced renewed criticism from senior figures in the care sector of its handling of coronavirus. it follows a report from mps accusing ministers of failing to increase testing "early or boldly enough".
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giving evidence to the health and social care committee, the head of the organisation representing care homes said elderly people should have been prioritised from the beginning of the crisis. even now, we are still in a position where people are not getting enough ppe. so, first of all, we need to have the commodities of ppe. secondly, we need to have much clearer guidance delivered by public health england and others. the third thing we need to do is have a national strategy on this. the government commitment on the 28th of april, which is obviously several weeks ago now, was that testing will be available to all staff and residents in care homes. what are your members telling you now about the availability of testing as of today? people are often finding that their tests aren't arriving on time or indeed being taken away on time. there have also been significant time delays. we are looking at sometimes eight to ten days before
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people get results. and one of the things about testing as well is it is not a one—time occupation. we need to have regular testing. it's got to be done two to three times a week, if possible. the health secretary has said he does want to move to routine testing of front—line care staff and nhs staff, but have you any indication or sense this is going to start anytime soon? i mean, we have had the announcements. but often with the announcements, there's a time delay before delivery. the intention is there, but also i want to say that it would be very helpful to have both testing and track and trace in place, because i think that will be a game changer as well in this. i think the short answer, chair, is we have the announcement. but we haven't had is the delivery. and we are not really clear when that is going to arrive. also giving evidence was the head of the association of directors of social services. we do lack in infrastructure, i think, for social care that would have really benefited us to implement things like testing or to implement a distribution of ppe, for example, and i really think if we had had a national position on ppe that would even make it free, with local government sourcing it, or had it paid for and local
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governments sourcing it, we would've been far ahead of where we are. and some of our problems around transmission, no doubt, are relating to ppe and we've had, very sadly, some of the deaths too. the whole approach to combatting the virus needed to change. what we saw at the start was a focus on the nhs, and that meant the care homes often had their medical support from the nhs withdrawn. we also had the destruction of our supply chains on ppe. so what we did was, we... another thing i think is really interesting about the statistics, what we did not see is anybody who might have required a hospital intervention going to hospital.
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we also saw people being discharged from hospital and we hadn't had a testing regime up and running. so despite what has been said, there were cases i think of people who either didn't have a covid—i9 status or were symptomatic who were discharged into care homes. now, given that the care homes are full of people with underlying health conditions, i think we should have looked at focusing on where the people at most risk rather than thinking about particular organisations. well, just a few minutes after that committee session ended, the health secretary was at the despatch box in the commons to answer an urgent question on the care sector. he began with some good news. today's figures released by international statistics show that the number of deaths and care homes has fallen significantly down by a third and just the last week from 2423, to 1666. taking place in care homes, it compares to the european average of around half. but he faced some tough criticism. over 23,000 more people have died
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in care homes in the first four months of this year compared to last. this virus is the biggest health challenge of our lives and ministries have been too slow to tackle the problem and care homes, social care has not had the same priority as the nhs and the services have not been treated as inextricably linked. we have detail that from nine care workers are being paid less than the living wage. and finally giving front—line workers a real living wage.
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where you are yes, mrspeaker, iam a massive supporter of the living wage and the increase of the living wage that we have seen since its introduction in 2016 is a very positive impact on the low—speed people in our country right across the board, including many in care homes. several mps detailed specific problems they'd come across in care homes in their constituencies. six people in the home have died recently and they requested test kits and were told that there was a very limited supply. they may get them on wednesday this week, if they are lucky, if not, they will have to reregister for them. a resident contacted me whose mum is classified as extremely
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vulnerable and living in a care home. the care homes have interpreted the government guidance to believe that their mum must be kept in confinement for three months for her own protection. in 2011, the un said that was cruel and inhumane punishment. his mum is deteriorating and having the quality of life. please, can the secretary of state urgently give clear and unequivocal advice on exactly how care homes can treat residents listed as meeting shielding. a proportionate approach that is guided by the individual clinical circumstances of that person. matt hancock. you're watching tuesday in parliament, with me, alicia mccarthy. local authorities in northern ireland are to get access tojust over £20 million in emergency covid—19 funding from the executive.
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councils are still carrying out essential work but have lost income from sectors like leisure and tourism. the new funding will help cover costs between now and the end ofjune. northern ireland's communities minister said the executive had agreed to an "immediate intervention" to avoid a cash crisis. the losses sustained are at such a magnitude that councils will soon be unable to meet their financial liabilities and therefore delighted they have received executive approval to make an immediate intervention deal to avoid a financial crisis developing with the local government and yesterday, the executive agreed in making funding available of £20.3 million to my department for a local council to alleviate these financial pressures. this intervention will provide relief to our local councils to protect the delivery of front—line services during this crisis and ensure that councils are ready to play the role and oppose pandemic recovery plans.
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the sdlp's matthew 0?toole raised concerns about what covid—19 could mean for younger people. covid—19 is clearly a health crisis that is disproportionately affecting older people. however, the employment and economic crisis disproportionately affects younger people from the resolution foundation and look into a third of the uk level of the people either made redundant or just losing theirjobs and we face a real possible long—term crisis and i understand but this is an important question. is her department doing serious work on a generation that could be lost to this crisis. you're entering the benefit system now and we need her partner to be joined with the economy.
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we need to have a bold vision in n terms of what our society looks like going forward, i am going to be with the departments and obviously i have met the economy ministry before this pandemic and there are clear links and we need to look at an economy that works for the people. and notjust for a few. finally, what are you going to do when lockdown is finally over? top of many people's list, no doubt, is a holiday. the covid—19 shutdown has had a massive impact on the tourism industry. despite the sunny spring weather, beaches have been deserted. popular beauty spots have been for the most part empty. hotels up and down the uk are shut, along with campsites, b&bs and holiday homes. all of which has left businesses locked up and facing a shaky financial future. the digital, culture, media and sport committee heard from a wide range of tourism organisations about the effects on them. in your written submission to the committee, you said that you thought the cost impact of covid—19 on your sector could be
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wrenched from a billion to 22 billion. that is quite a range. does the fact that we are under quarantine, we have a high rate, would be at the top end of that expectation is the cost of covid—19 impacts the sector? every time we do the modelling, the figures just gets worse. i think the worrying thing we've seen is the lack of confidence in the british public about travelling so that 74% of people who have a holiday booked forjuly and september think that holiday won't take place. she had a suggestion that could help the industry. we could possibly have a bank holiday in october, the industry has lost the benefit of the two holidays if they think that is an idea that is being considered to have a bank holiday around half—term because what we're going to need to do is notjust
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generate people in july and august, but really extend the season. but what about increasing spend on marketing to attract back visitors from overseas? my stunning fact on that is that, australia spends more than china internationally. so wwe are hugely outspent. you mentioned the republic of ireland. the republic of ireland, the responses to covid has been to be doubling the budget for already well—funded organisations. so yes, we are hugely outspent in international markets. what was the impact of the shutdown on britain's visitor attractions? the vast majority of them are wholly dependent on ticket revenue. they haven't had any money coming in and when to lock down and very few of them have significant reserves, so there are some of the most important visitor attractions,
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not only in the uk but in the world, which have a question mark over their financial sustainability. can you remind us of the sorts of of attractions do you have you have any examples? the largest visitor attractions in english trust and english heritage through the palaces, historic world palaces, buckingham palace, theme parks, historic houses, stately homes. titanic belfast, the scottish historic environment, through ti harry potter. more visits went to the science museum and the national history museum combined then went to venice. in a few years ago, more people went to the british museum than the whole of belgium. so what could attractions do to prepare to reopen? through to chester zoo have very, very detailed reopening operational plans and progress. and that includes everything
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from supermarket style one—way routes, to adding contacts to operations, just having a card not paying cash, just having a card and i was talking to all my scottish members yesterday through a conference call and they are looking at reopening slightly later than england, but looking at online bookings. even though they are free, online bookings or time slots. coastal tourism has also been hit hard. 7% of businesses closed in many of them permanently. what we're hearing from businesses is that they will reduce capacity over the summer months. 32% of all visits occur injuly and this happened at the worst possible time, just as they were reopening for that easter period. the key for us really is that we believe that the coast
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will take a 3—year recovery period before it is back to pre—covid—19 levels and what we would like to see is a collaborative approach across all stakeholders to build back better. on the coast. over 20% of businesses are looking at how they extend their opening this year slick so they can claw back lost revenue. the national trust told the committee it had closed all its buildings, gardens and car parks and had stopped all non—essential projects. that means all of that lovely conservation work, you would exect us to do, certainly all the nature conservation work all stopped and we will need to review our human resource. we have a lot ofjobs that people simply will not be doing for the next nine months, so we are in the process of reviewing that of the month. we are not anticipating another three month closure but if there is a second wave medical is completely, that would be deeply, deeply concerning and what we are watching very carefully, as you would expect,
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is the decline in membership. we were losing certainly in the first month, losing members at a rate of four times the normal rate and of course, we cannot replenish our members because the properties are not open. so it's that membership that we are watching really closely ‘cause once that declines, it's incredibly hard to build it up again. there's been a lot of messaging that gone on with the councillors and members of parliament and they've asked us to stay away. understandably so, because those lockdown rules etc, but as we move out from that, is there any chance poach that messaging to be potentially more long—term effect, could make people nervous and perhaps feel as if they are not welcome? we have holiday parks of nhs workers because we did not accommodate when we could. who are these people, what are they doing here?
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people are reporting them to the council and for these people that negative feelings going to be an issue. at the same time, there was something very similar after, people did not want to tour the countryside to protect the farmers. and if you do not get a second wave, things settled down, we can start thinking about having her to respect. if they don't have them back, they were not of the shop in the garage, butcher, the baker, the candlestick maker. because it's the tourists who are sustaining local businesses and we have businesses unable to do so. we have been and we see that it is a really ros pritchard — and those hopes for sunny holidays is where we end for today, but dojoin me at the same time tomorrow for another round up of the day at westminster, including the highlights from prime minister's questions. but for now from me, alicia mccarthy, goodbye.
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hello there. a day of warm spring sunshine for many of us today. yes, some early morning mist and low cloud around the coast but that will melt readily away and we could see some showers lingering in the northern isles, with a light southerly breeze, clear skies and lots of sunshine, temperatures are going to respond, perhaps the low 20s through central and southern scotla nd 20s through central and southern scotland and as high as 27 degrees in the south—east, 81 fahrenheit. we will see a subtle change as we move through thursday, when the front will bring more cloud and outbreaks of showery rain through northern ireland, western scotland, maybe north—west england. it stays pretty warm and humid through the south—east and that could trigger offa south—east and that could trigger off a few hundred downpours possibly by the end of the day. here, temperatures will still peak at 26 or 27 degrees, a good bit cooler and fresher further north and west. so to summarise the end of this week, widespread warmth for a few days, the chance of a few thundery
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downpours, fresher, though, by the weekend.
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