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hello good morning, welcome to bbc news. i'm vic derbyshire, and here are the headlines. plans to impose localised lockdowns in england will be unveiled later today, to try to contain future outbreaks of coronavirus. the government's to explain how its test, track and trace strategy will deal with regional flare—ups of covid—19. if there is a in one particular community,
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and that could be on quite a small scale like a particular workplace or school, then measures can be introduced, which hopefully the public will get behind, enable us to control the virus in that locality. the prime minister will be questioned by senior mps later amid continued calls for his top adviser dominic cummings to resign. elsewhere — a new spike of coronavirus infections is detected in south korea — on the day that many children return to school. president trump accuses twitter of stifling free speech after one of his tweets about postal voting was given a fact—check label. and nasa astronauts prepare to launch into space from the us for the first time in nearly a decade — we count down to the launch.
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good morning. future coronavirus outbreaks in england could be controlled by introducing "local lockdowns" according to the government. the health secretary matt hancock said some restrictions, including the temporary closure of shops and schools, could be reintroduced in specific areas if there is a spike in the number of cases. also today — borisjohnson will be questioned by senior mps this afternoon about the government's handling of the coronavirus pandemic. he's also likely to be asked about his chief adviser dominic cummings‘ controversial trip to county durham. south korea, which avoided a nationwide lockdown, has seen its biggest spike in new coronavirus cases in two months, just as many schools are reopening. and here, research suggests women are more likely than men to have lost theirjobs or to have been furloughed since the start of the lockdown. they're also more likely to be doing
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most of the housework and childcare. do let us know your experiences. new single dads have already been getting in touch on twitter. or via email, victoria@bbc.co.uk. more on that later but first this report from andy moore. a testing, tracking and tracing system is regarded as vital if the virus is to be kept in check while lockdown restrictions are eased. the fear is that, without it, there could be a second wave of infections. transmission rates are generally coming down across the country, but there are big regional variations. in somerset, the hospital in western—super—mare has been temporarily closed due to a high number of coronavirus cases. there's said to be an emerging picture of large numbers of staff testing positive, though they're showing no symptoms. the hospital says it hopes to reopen its a&e department and accept new patients as soon as possible. if there's a high level of infection
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in a particular area, the government has indicated that local schools, businesses or workplaces could be closed down. at the daily downing street press conference, matt hancock said the nhs test and trace programme would be incredibly important. it will give us the information to have local lockdowns and focus on areas where there may be flare—ups, and it is very important that people follow those rules and they should do it — don't — not do it for, um, the government, people need to do this for themselves, for their loved ones, for their communities. it's incredibly important and it will stop those local flare—ups from happening. a similar system will be launched in scotland tomorrow. it's called test and protect. anyone with symptoms will be urged to get a swab. if it comes back positive, 700 trackers will be ready to trace any contacts, with that number rising to 2,000 in due course. andy moore, bbc news.
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let's talk to our assistant political editor norman smith. i want to ask you first of all about where you think we are today on the dominic cummings story. where you think we are today on the dominic cummings storyi where you think we are today on the dominic cummings story. i think that the harsh truth is that boris johnson has decided to hunker down and weather the storm and he not going to budge, this despite the fa ct going to budge, this despite the fact we've got around a0 tory mps from different wings of the party all expressing their dismay at mr cummings apostrophe conduct. i think the view of no 10 is i hope we will all move on, that the media, mps, however angry, frustrated, i rate they may be, will in the end conclude that there are other very, very important issues looming ahead with covid—i9 which we have to focus on, whether it is tracking and tracing, whether it is getting 200,000 tests a day by the end of the month, whether it is getting schools back up and running, there is so much coming at us so quickly i think no 10's calculation is we will
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move on. added to which there hasn't really been a big beast who has come out and said cummings has to go. we had jeremy hunt who said, yes, he had jeremy hunt who said, yes, he had clearly broken the lockdown rules but he didn't pull the trigger and so he should resign. instead we have mps going off in the sixes and sevens firing off their views on twitter but there hasn't been any coordinated concerted move to oust dominic cummings so i think the likelihood is that he probably will stay in post and mrjohnson has decided to take the hit, although it could be a very, very damaging hit if people decide they are actually not going to bother with future government restrictions, they will doa cummings government restrictions, they will do a cummings and simply use their own instinct, or interpret the rules in the way they want, and that matters, of course, because as we have learned we may be moving to so—called localised lockdown work communities, individual housing estates, may face specific lockdown is going right back to square one
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with ia day self—isolations if there is an upsurge in the virus. have a listen to the communities secretary robertjenrick talking about this this morning. the trade—off is a small number of people self—isolating and the rest of us enjoy far more freedom than we are currently living under the lockdown. the main aim is to get back to normal life as far as possible. two other things we learned about robert jenrick this morning, —— from robert jenrick, there will not be lockdown fines imposed on people who chose to travel to other parts of the country for childcare reasons as dominic cummings did. you know matt hancock suggested that at the press conference yesterday when he was asked by the vicar. that is not happening, so no review. the second thing we learn is that if you are in
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a similar situation to dominic cummings and feel that you cannot provide adequate childcare, then according to mrjenn —— robert jenrick you can travel to another pa rt jenrick you can travel to another part of the country to secure adequate childcare. if there are no other options and you don't have ready access to childcare, then you can do as dominic cummings chose to do. even if you are in a household with symptoms of coronavirus? the guidelines say that you must do your best mud but they appreciate that family life poses particular challenges, and in order to protect children you are able to exercise a degree of personal judgment. children you are able to exercise a degree of personaljudgment. i think that's a reasonable way forward. norman, you mentioned, could what has happened around mr cummings affect people's willingness to follow public health guidance? not scientifically in any way, but most of the messages on getting up from people saying i will continue to
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follow the guidance because i feel like i'm sensible and i don't want to put family members, friends, relatives at risk. why is boris johnson sticking by dominic cummings? why has he expended so much political capital on him? what is the deal between the two of them? i don't know this but i surmise he believes he cannot deliver on brexit. maybe he cannot get us through covid without dominic cummings, franklyi through covid without dominic cummings, frankly i think he sees him as indispensable. say another minister, such as mrjenrick had done what dominic cummings had done, whether boris johnson done what dominic cummings had done, whether borisjohnson would have thrown him a lifeline, i don't know. i think dominic cummings is crucial to boris johnson's premiership i think dominic cummings is crucial to borisjohnson‘s premiership and it is hard to explain it any other weight because he has expended so much political capital on defending him, quite apart from the arguments
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over whether or not he breached the rules by seeking child care, which in the end of because he didn't require. there is the trip to barnard castle. it is very hard to see how that comes within any rules. so given that and given the potential damage to public support for any further restrictions, i can only conclude that mrjohnson thinks that the success or failure of his approach to coronavirus, and i suspect to brexit, is intimately linked with dominic cummings continuing to work with him in no 10. thank you very much, norman. norman smith at westminster. boris johnson being questioned by senior mps late on this afternoon and you will be able to watch that questioning on bbc news. i think it is about to be, 2:30pm, like that. donald trump has accused twitter of interfering in the 2020 us election after it labelled two posts by the president as potentially misleading.
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mr trump had claimed that the use of postal votes would lead to widespread voter fraud. twitter responded by directing readers to a page with news articles and information from fact checkers debunking the claim. 0ur north america correspondent peter bowes reports. a twitter war about twitter. it started when mr trump, who has more than 18 million followers on the social media platform, tweeted that postal ballot papers would result in a rigged election. mailboxes will be robbed, ballots will be forged and even illegally printed out and fraudulently signed. mr trump also claimed that the governor of california will be sending ballots to millions of people, anyone living in the state, no matter who they are oi’ in the state, no matter who they are or how they got there, we'll get one. twitter responded with a blue! underneath the tweets, suggesting readers get the facts about mail in ballots through stories contradicting mr trump. the president later repeated his claims ata president later repeated his claims at a white house news conference.
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people that aren't citizens, illegals, anyone that walks in california is going to get a ballot. we are not going to destroy this country by allowing things like that to happen. we are not destroying our country. this has more to do with fairness and honesty, and really our country itself. twitter introduced a policy earlier this month to combat misleading information. but this is the first time the platform has applied a fact checking label to tweets by the president who was quick to respond with another tweet. twitter is now interfering in the 2020 presidential election. twitter is completely stifling free speech, and i, as president, will not allow it to happen! thank you. a potentially rocky road ahead for the president and his social media platform of choice. peter bowes, bbc news, los angeles. tensions have flared again in hong kong, over that new security law. riot police fired pepper
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pellets to disperse demonstrators and trouble broke out between hundreds of protesters and security forces. dozens of people were arrested. hong kong's legislators are debating a bill that would criminalise insulting china's national anthem. south korea has recorded its biggest increase in new coronavirus cases in two months, with a0 new cases reported in the last 2a hours. it comes as nearly 2.5 million pupils go back to school today. students have to fill in an app and have their temperature taken, to prove they have no symptoms of covid—i9, before they are allowed back into the classroom. that's a good idea. 0ur correspondent laura bicker sent this update. well, this is pe class, as you can probably tell behind me. 2.5 million students are going back. this is part of a phased return. so a series of students go back every week. but teachers are on edge because there are clusters of infection popping up across the country.
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this is all related to an outbreak in nightclubs in seoul's party disctrict a couple of weeks ago. health officials have traced 86,000 people. and tested them for the virus. but still these little pockets of infection keep cropping up. and that is why every single student must wear a mask. at the gates they are having their temperature checked. that's the first temperature check of the day. there are many temperature checks throughout the day. each of the classes have dividers in them to keep students apart. daily, teachers are telling their students to keep that social distance, but it is extremely difficult. as you can imagine, this is the first time that they've seen each other in months. this is the start of the school term which was supposed to happen in march so they are very, very excited. i saw one studentjump up and down desperate to hug herfriend but she was told no, no, no, no by a teacher.
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but still they are allowing students to go back to school. some schools have decided to say no today but this one has. laura bicker reporting. 9:15am. good morning. the headlines on bbc news. plans to impose localised lockdowns in england will be unveiled later today, to try to contain future outbreaks of coronavirus. the government will explain how its test, track and trace strategy will deal with regional flare—ups of covid—i9. the prime minister will be questioned by senior mps later amid continued calls for his top adviser dominic cummings to resign. around a0 mps have now called for the pm's chief adviser to resign or be sacked after that 260—mile journey from london to durham. conservative mps i should say. mr cummings says he didn't breach lockdown rules. in a moment, we'll talk to a conservative mp
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who would like to see mrcummings resign. but first, could the controversy around mr cummings behaviour mean that people will be reluctant to pay fines imposed by police? health secretary matt hancock said yesterday he'd now speak to the treasury about whether fines on families travelling for childcare during lockdown should be ‘looked at‘ or reviewed but today the housing secretary today said that wldnt happen — as it was a matterfor the police. let's speak to kirsty brimelow qc — she's a member of the labour party obviosly she's talking ot us today for her legap expertise. we had the housing secretary say the government would not review these fines. what do you think of that decision? i think the whole situation is a mess because the fixed penalty notices, there have been about ia,000 of them and those figures are up to the 11th of may. now, they are issued if there is a reasonable, basically if there are reasonable, basically if there are reasonable grounds for suspicion that somebody has actually broken
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the law and it is a way of diverting away from the criminaljustice system, of having a criminal prosecution. we, myself and other barristers, and ngos, had already written to martin hewitt, who is the chair of the national police chiefs' council, asking him to review all of these fixed penalty notices come on these fixed penalty notices come on the basis that the cps has reviewed its prosecutions under this emergency legislation and it found that 28% of those prosecutions have been wrong and there have been unlawful convictions. it is highly likely in any event for there to be a huge number of on the spot fines, putting it colloquially, which would have been wrongly issued. we have then got the cummings situation, and
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then got the cummings situation, and the difficulty there is that many people potentially will have been issued fpns, fixed penalty notices, on the basis that it is not a reasonable excuse for them to have driven, for example, to be near family, because that's what they wa nt to family, because that's what they want to do in case of emergency. 0r they might have been given fpns for being outside and not exercising, perhaps sitting by a river bank, as dominic cummings did. when people have heard the justification by not only the prime minister but also by matt hancock who is the minister whose power is brought in this legislation, people understandably will consider, well, why have i acted in breach but he hasn't? so is
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there not a mechanism for people who have been fined and who may retrospectively think, actually, you know what, i think it wasn't fair now. is there not a mechanism for them to appeal against those fixed penalty notices? yes. i am no fan of the legislation. the legislation was very badly drafted. can they appeal oi’ very badly drafted. can they appeal or not? they can't appeal. within the legislation there is no appeal. so what you do, if you get an f p n and don't agree with it you have to ta ke and don't agree with it you have to take your chances and you could then be prosecuted for actually the criminal offence and take your chancesin criminal offence and take your chances in the magistrates' court. and most people won't want to do that because it's a big risk. financially, you could get a higher financial penalty but also end up with a criminal conviction. understood. what should people do? give us some free legal advice, ki rsty give us some free legal advice, kirsty brimelow, if they feel they have been issued one unfairly. what
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we are urging and what people should do is first of all contact myself, but also write to your police force to dispute the fine, write to your mp, write to matt hancock to say why is this unlawful if what you are saying is lawful in relation to dominic cummings? 0k, thank you very much for your time, dominic cummings? 0k, thank you very much foryourtime, kirsty dominic cummings? 0k, thank you very much for your time, kirsty brimelow qc. i'd be really interested in hearing from you if you have already been fined in this lock in period and got in touch with your local police station or police force to say you are not sure it is fair in the light of mr cummings' journey from london to durham and barnard castle and so on. we are going to talk to a conservative mp now who is one of about a0 who have called on mrcummings to resign, one of about a0 who have called on mr cummings to resign, orfour boris johnson to sack him. he is craig whittaker, the mp for calder valley in yorkshire. mr whitaker, whittaker, the mp for calder valley
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in yorkshire. mrwhitaker, good morning. good morning, victoria. the housing secretary has confirmed today there will not be a review of these fines. what do you think of that? i think it's fair enough. i think what should be happening is, like your previous person just said, is perhaps we should investigate whether dominic cummings has broken the law and he should be fined too, that would be the simplest solution to all of this. would you like to see a police investigation into mr cummings' movements? well, i think if people are saying he has broken the law, then some form of action needs to be looked into to find out whether he actually did, and if he did he needs to pay the consequences and pay that fine. all right. he is not resigning and borisjohnson doesn't look like he's going to sack him. it's time you moved on, isn't it? it is time we move on but the
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only way we are going to move on and deal with all the things that need dealing with, i don't need to tell anybody how dire some of the things are with the pandemic and what we need to do to get on, but, he needs to resign, or the boss needs to sack him because that, ifear, is the only way this is going to move on. that's not going to happen. only way this is going to move on. that's not going to happenm only way this is going to move on. that's not going to happen. it is above my pay grade but all i can do asa above my pay grade but all i can do as a backbench mp is give my view, lobby the government, highlight to the government the real hardship and paina lot the government the real hardship and pain a lot of my constituents have been through, and i'm not talking about the ha rd—core been through, and i'm not talking about the hard—core momentum e—mails we have been getting in, or even the hard—core brexit e—mails we have been getting income i'm talking about the real majority of my constituents, people that have sat ona constituents, people that have sat on a lounge suite with the husband oi’ on a lounge suite with the husband or the wife one day and seen them carted off to hospital the next and never seen carted off to hospital the next and never seen them again, not even being allowed to go to the
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crematorium locally to pay their last respects. people that have been in realdire last respects. people that have been in real dire need of help with childcare and all those things that have done the right thing to protect not only themselves but the family and their extended family. i'm really interested that the prime minister's word isn't good enough for you. one of his backbench conservative mps. why isn't it? well, there is an element of the prime minister being loyal to his staff member, which, you know, i absolutely get that, i would die in absolutely get that, i would die in a ditch for everybody that works in my office too, but the reality is there is an awful lot of anger out there. this is the man that is the adviser to the prime minister of our country who has advised the nation with scientific advice to lockdown for everybody, we all know the slogan, stay at home, protect the nhs and save lives. you then, in his position... listen, if the guy wants
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to make that decision to do what he did, that's fine by me as well. it's not even my place to judge. but what the guy has to do is he has to take responsibility for his actions. and a man in his position, the only responsible course of action is to resign, or if he is not going to resign, or if he is not going to resign the prime minister needs to sack him. but the prime minister's word isn't good enough for you. the prime minister told us he spent four hours talking to him on sunday afternoon, presumably going into every little detail. and then the prime minister came out at the downing street daily press conference and said, "i can't mark him for being a good dad," effectively. why isn't the prime minister's word good enough for you? that's absolutely true and i saw the press c0 nfe re nce that's absolutely true and i saw the press conference that happened. i've never met dominic cummings, i've never met dominic cummings, i've never worked with him, i don't know the guy, and so i took, like the prime minister probably has, took his word at face value. there is nothing in their... and in fact, if
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i was nothing in their... and in fact, if iwas in nothing in their... and in fact, if i was in the same position i would probably consider doing the same thing. but the difference is, of course, if you are a man of his position, let alone a backbench mp, i know that if i go against what i am advising my constituents to do, that it am advising my constituents to do, thatitis am advising my constituents to do, that it is also my responsibility to ta ke that it is also my responsibility to take responsibility for that action, and that action in my view is to resign, or indeed the prime minister sack him. you mentioned loyalty from mrjohnson to mr cummings. why else might mrjohnson not be sacking him, do you think? i would hope the prime minister might show as much loyalty to all of his cabinet members, and indeed his backbenchers, had they found themselves in the same position. that is a good employer. do you think he would? well... i will leave that one up to you and your viewers to determine whether he would put his neck on the line for me to the same extent. your reaction would suggest you don't think he
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would suggest you don't think he would do that. well, i don't know, i've never been in that situation. but, you know, they do need to wake up but, you know, they do need to wake up and smell the coffee. they need to understand the real genuine anger from people out there. people in the calder valley that have lost loved ones, not being able to grieve, not being able to say goodbye to parents that have died in other places, and you know, people have made some real severe sacrifices during this lockdown. and they know that and he's still there. absolutely. so it is time, well, it was time last week, but it is time for either him to resign all the prime minister to sack him. and if neither of those things happens, what will you do?|j will things happens, what will you do?” will keep banging the drum. i think we do need to draw a line under this. there are many, many more important things for the government to get on and deliver. and sadly, until he resigns or gets sacked, then this story is going to rumble
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on, unfortunately. one final question, did you vote remain, mr whittaker? i did vote remain, but that has nothing to do, as i said earlier, i've had the hard—core brexiteer vile e—mails in already saying that's the only reason i'm doing this. that's not the case at all. i'm doing this because actually it is the right thing for him to do and that is to resign. thank you for talking to us. we appreciate it. craig whittaker, the conservative mp for calder valley. your views welcome as always, you can message me on twitter, also tell me what the split is in household chores in your household because a research study shows women are taking on the bulk of the childcare and domestic duties and also being disproportionately affected with job losses. nicky clark is a woman and she says i'm not doing most of it and we have been together for 27 years, i'm a feminist and that starts at home,
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doesn't it? case. don't mums do the most when not in lockdown too, u nless most when not in lockdown too, unless you are a single dad? i've had lots of messages from single dads. there is just had lots of messages from single dads. there isjust me, my neighbour is also a single parent, again a dad with three command speaking for both of us when we were in relationships there is no way we would have been allowed not to hold up our end. eddie says i'm a single dad and my teenage children have stepped up during the lockdown. that's a really good point, actually. have your kids stepped up during lockdown? let me know. it is warm in quite a lot of the country. here is carol with the weather. hello again. yesterday temperatures in parts of the southeast reached 27 degrees. we could see very similar values today. so a lot of dry weather, a lot of sunshine, but we do have some low cloud, particularly the latter part of the afternoon, very close to the north sea coastline. we have also got some weather fronts bringing thicker cloud across northern ireland and western scotland.
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here too you could see some spots of rain. temperatures 12 in the north to 25 in the south. through this evening and overnight rain crosses northern scotland. it will be heavy at times. for the rest of the uk we have variable amounts of cloud and also some clear skies. and some of this low cloud coming in from the north sea will progress inland. but it's not going to be a cold night. so tomorrow we say goodbye to that rain. we could see some spots across south—east scotland and north—east england before it eventually clears. that's going to leave us with another dry day, another sunny one and another warm one with highs of 22 in edinburgh to 26 in cardiff. hello this is bbc news with victoria derbyshire. plans to impose localised lockdowns in england will be unveiled later today, to try to contain future outbreaks of coronavirus.
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the government will explain how its test, track and trace strategy will deal with regional flare—ups of covid i9. if there is a flare up in one particular workplace or a school, measures can be introduced which hopefully the public will get behind, enable us to control the virus in that locality. the prime minister will be questioned by senior mps later amid continued calls for his top adviser dominic cummings to resign. elsewhere — a new spike of coronavirus infections children return to school. president trump accuses twitter of stifling free speech after one of his tweets about postal voting was given a fact—check label. riot police in hong kong have fired pepper pellets to break up protests — after a backlash at beijing's proposed national security law. and nasa astronauts prepare to launch into space from the us for the first time in nearly a decade — we count down to the launch.
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police officers in the us city of minneapolis have fired tear gas at demonstrators protesting the death of an unarmed black man in police custody. just after george floyd died on monday, a video emerged showing a white policeman kneeling on his neck forfive minutes — despite the man complaining that he couldn't breathe. protestors filled the city's streets on tuesday evening, as you can see, houi’s after it was said that four police officers had been sacked. and a warning, this report starts with images of the man being detained. a disturbing scene caught on camera by witnesses incensed over the police's actions. bro? the ten—minute video shows george floyd pleading with officers who have him restrained on the ground.
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one of them using his knee to pin the man down by his neck. clearly in distress, he tells the white officer he can't breathe and is in pain. the crowd tries to help, and grows increasingly concerned and frustrated. when george floyd appears motionless, bystanders question why he isn't being given urgent medical attention. seven minutes into the video, an ambulance arrives. he's put on a stretcher, still handcuffed, and taken to hospital. at a press conference, the minneapolis police department offered their version of events. they said they were responding to a crime and that the man appeared to be under the influence. he physically resisted officers. officers were able to get the suspect into handcuffs and officers noticed that the male was going into medical distress. 0fficers called for an ambulance. he was transported to hennepin county medical center, where he died a short time later. mayorjacob frey said that four
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of the officers involved have now been fired, after initially being put on paid leave. the fbi is also investigating the incident. being black in america should not be a death sentence. for five minutes, we watched as a white officer pressed his knee into the neck of a black man. for five minutes. when you hear someone calling for help, you are supposed to help. this officer failed in the most basic human sense. the viral video quickly sparked outrage. yesterday, what we saw was a black man who was lynched. right? they didn't use rope,
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he used his knee. and that black man, mr floyd, said, "i cannot breathe." minnesota prides itself on being progressive and being the north. but this is the jim crow north, and we demand justice. police officer: put your hands behind your back! george floyd: i can't breathe! for many, this is a case of history repeating itself. millions protested in 201a after eric garner, an unarmed black man in new york, died after being restrained by police. his repeated plea of "i can't breathe", also captured in cellphone footage, became a rallying cry at demonstrations against police brutality against african—america ns. there are sometimes investigations, but many feel there is rarely any accountability. nada tawfik, bbc news. we're going to talk about dramatic rise in contacts tot rise in contacts to
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refuge's website — refuge run the national domestic abyuse helpline and they have seen rise in traffic ot their website of 957%. we'll talk to a survivor of domestic abuse too. that was before 10am. now, the organisers of one of the most high profile music festivals of the summer afro nation have told us here on bbc news they have received death threats and racial abuse online, after the festival refused to offer ticket holders refunds. afro nation portugal was postponed until 2021 because of the covid—i9 outbreak, leaving thousands of ticket holders demanding their money back. shamaan freeman—powell has this report and just to let you know, it has two images of racially abusive messages received by people we spoke to. it was meant to be one of the highlights of the summer.
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after selling out on its debut last year, fans of the afro nation portugal festival had big plans for summer 2020. so well organised, so nicely put together. it was such a vibe. i bought a vip ticket this year because i thought, yeah, let me just go bigger and better. but those plans were scuppered by the covid—i9 outbreak and while other festivals offered refunds, afro nation only offered a ticket to next year's event, causing outrage amongst some customers. at the moment, a lot of people are financially stressed and people are losing jobs or working less. and then on top of it, i found that i can't get a refund. so it was just a lot to take in. many ticket holders were even more shocked to see one of the men behind the festival, adesegun adeosun, better known as smade, posted a controversial message on twitter, threatening to block people who complained. if you try to ask a question, or could you please reply me, i have messaged you in the dms,
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they would block you. afro nation say, like all festivals, they remove abusive, anti—social or bullying comments from social media feeds and haven't blocked anyone since announcing the event was postponed. as for smade, he says he reacted after receiving threatening and racially abusive messages online. some suggested that he should go and live in a zoo, whilst others wished terminal cancer on his mum. i regret tweeting what i tweeted, but i don't think anyone deserves any of those... um, messages. but on may the 11th, organisers announced that they will be using a new portuguese law, which was passed in march. the law was introduced to protect the tourism industry in portugal and it allows events to be rescheduled within a year with the same line—up. because the main promoter of afro nation is based in portugal, this law applies and means customers get a ticket to next year's event but no refund. ijust want my refund back, that's really it.
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and if i want to go next year, because i don't know the plan for next year, then i'll go on my own terms. some of the people that i have spoken to have said that they've lost some faith in the festival. what would you say to them about that? i would say to them to continue to believe in afro nation. a lot of people are disappointed. a lot of people are sad, at the moment. you know, 202! is going to be a bigger opportunity. the festival organisers say cancelling the event would have damaged local businesses and the portuguese economy. and say they've done everything possible to ensure 2021 is better than before, adding extra names to the line—up. this leaves ticket holders with only two options — try and resell their tickets using the platform provided by afro nation or hope that the pandemic is over by 2021. shamaan freeman—powell, bbc news. lisa minot is the travel editor of the sun
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and shejoins me now. good morning. good morning. how can people get their money back if the organisers are refusing refunds? u nfortu nately, organisers are refusing refunds? unfortunately, it's going to be very difficult to get your money back. because the festival is based in portugal and they have that law in portugal, it comes under that law. all you could try to do perhaps is that if you paid by credit card, call your credit card provider to see if you can get your money back under the section 75 law. 0r see if you can get your money back under the section 75 law. or if it isa under the section 75 law. or if it is a debit card, perhaps a chargeback. banks are not instantly giving money back, this will be a battle and a fight. possibly, if you took out travel insurance before the pandemic, you might possibly be able to claim back something from that, because the festival is cancelled. your tickets, flights and accommodation, you won't be able to use that. right now, we are still in lockdown and we are not allowed to go anywhere in the world. what about
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festivals in the uk that had been cancelled? festivals in the uk that had been cancelled ? what laws apply festivals in the uk that had been cancelled? what laws apply in this country? we have different laws here, we haven't got that law. you have a right to a refund here. that will affect about 8 million people who have bought tickets for festivals that have been cancelled so festivals that have been cancelled so far this year. you should be able to get your money back. again, it will be a bit of a battle. the organisers of these festivals are not making it easy. we have seen the same with holidays as well. people are being encouraged to wait and rebook for next year or have the ticket bounce over to next year. for a lot of people, that will be fine. but it is difficult times for a lot of people right now, they might have lost theirjobs or earning a lot less money and they might not want to think about having that money sitting there for another year until they are actually able to use it again. thank you, lisa, thank you for talking to us. the charity which runs the national
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domestic abuse helpline has had a ten—fold increase in visits to its website in the past two weeks. refuge said numbers have "spiked again significantly" since it started recording rises during lockdown. yet, figures revealed to the bbc after a freedom of information request show that more uk police forces recorded a fall in calls about domestic violence at the start of lockdown, than recorded a rise. why the disparity? abby newbery reports. for some, lockdown has meant feeling trapped in an abusive situation at home. itjust got me down more and more. i thought i can't go on like this. this is one woman's experience, recreated and voiced by actors, to protect her identity. he got more and more aggressive, saying he'd like me to go now. he got a stick and he came back with it and he stood there with the stick in his hand and he said, "i want you out now or i'm going to hurt you and you know i can kill you," waving this stick at me. and he really, really did frighten me.
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this woman has now escaped her situation. but that's not the case for many. the bbc asked all a5 of the uk's police forces how many domestic abuse calls they'd had. ai responded. more than half had fewer calls at the start of lockdown than at the same time last year. but that's not the case for refuge, a domestic abuse charity that has seen 66% more calls and almost i,000% increase to its website in lockdown. as director of communications, lisa king explains. refuge is concerned to see such demand on its services and what we really want all women to know is that they are not alone. that domestic abuse is a crime and that refuge is here to support them every hour of every day. it shows that domestic abuse is perhaps a bigger issue than we have even anticipated in this country. but why is there not a similar recorded increase in police calls? there needs to be an understanding
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of what domestic abuse is. claire walker is a domestic abuse consultant and she thinks more training is needed to spot the signs. 100% of victims will experience coercive control. not so much what he does, it's about what he... ..disables her from being able to do. their systems and their policies and practices need to change. i am tired of police officers not understanding what coercive control is. the country's leading domestic abuse police officer, louisa rolfe, says that all front line officers across the uk receive training to spot the signs of coercive or controlling behaviour. she adds they are working with domestic abuse charities to understand the nature of their demand. let's talk to natasha saunders. she was verbally, physically and psychologically abused by her ex—partner. in 2018, he was found guilty of three counts of rape and one
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count of sexual assault and sentenced to 12 years. and then three years on licence. she has waived her right to anonymity to talk to you today and obviosuly he nature of our converstion means you may not want young children to be around. and i can also speak to clare walker. who you saw in the film. natasha, can you help our audience to understand what it might feel to be living at home during lockdown with a violent partner? i lived eight yea rs a violent partner? i lived eight years in lockdown and when i first heard about the lockdown situation, my immediate thought was that they are going to be so many people that are, you know, in close confines with people that wish them harm, whether it is psychological or physical. there's no escaping it. it is quite easy to say why don't you just leave? but as was said in the
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piece you have just played, it is about disabling that behaviour. and they disable the feeling that you have any strength or access to any services that may make you leave. and for women, they are living in hell right now. i'm struck by the fa ct hell right now. i'm struck by the fact that you said you lived in lockdown, effectively, for eight yea rs. lockdown, effectively, for eight years. yeah. can i ask what that meant to you for your daily life?” wasn't allowed out, unless my perpetrator was with me. i could do the school run and things, but i would be quizzed on who i spoke to. i wasn't allowed to talk to anybody when i was with him. i couldn't make eye co nta ct. when i was with him. i couldn't make eye contact. if i made eye contact with a man who had held a door open for us ina with a man who had held a door open for us in a shop, if i made eye contact, i would for us in a shop, if i made eye contact, iwould be for us in a shop, if i made eye contact, i would be called names. for us in a shop, if i made eye contact, iwould be called names. i would be verbally insulted with the most disgusting words you could
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think of. you know, it's... he raped me, he went to prison for the rape. we have this idea of rape as this jack the ripper —type figure who hides down an alleyway. for me, my rapist sat across the breakfast table from me every morning and said what have you got a face on today for? why have you got an attitude? that is what normalises that behaviour. a lot of people don't understand that when you live for it, especially for years, you get to a point where it seems normal. the first part of what you described is what we now know as coercive control. you know, the... effect on who your friends are, saying you can't look at certain people in a certain way or dress a certain way. that is what coercive control is. that is what coercive control is. that was brought into law in this country in 2015. do you think enough police forces still recognise what it is? absolutely not. i left in
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early 2015 and unfortunately, i experienced an awful lot... failing isa experienced an awful lot... failing is a strong word but i was let down quite a bit of times by the coercive control my ex—husband was perpetrating after i left. he was getting in contact with friends and family, he was e—mailing people who worked me. you know, there was a very big sort of spectrum of, as soon very big sort of spectrum of, as soon as very big sort of spectrum of, as soon as he knew i was doing something, he would go on the attack. although he was on bailfor no direct or indirect contact, say through a solicitor, every time i went to a police office and said, "he has contacted my mum, he has contacted one of my best friends, he has contacted... " i would get, "just ignore him." it is not acceptable, they need to understand the mental pressure it puts you under, knowing that control is still there. natasha, i will come under, knowing that control is still there. natasha, iwill come back under, knowing that control is still there. natasha, i will come back to you ina
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there. natasha, i will come back to you in a moment, iwill there. natasha, i will come back to you in a moment, i will bring there. natasha, i will come back to you in a moment, iwill bring in clare walker who is an expert in domestic abuse. i want to ask you about these figures from refuge. 0ver about these figures from refuge. over the past three consecutive weeks, they had a 66% increase in calls to their health line. in the past two weeks, eight 957% increase in web traffic. why do you think thatis in web traffic. why do you think that is —— a 957%. in web traffic. why do you think that is -- a 957%. firstly, those figures are telling us that domestic abuse is a constant pandemic that is around us inside of covid—19 and outside of it as well. when it comes to reaching out and identifying that lama to reaching out and identifying that i am a victim, like wasjust being explained, it is a difficult position to be in to say, "oh k, i think i am a victim." the intensification of abuse experienced in lockdown means that people will start reaching out. there are less services and opportunities for them to be able to reach any other
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services or reach people and communicate with people. being in lockdown if they are furloughed or working from home, they have no sanctuary to escape from him and his toxicity that is that all of the time. it doesn't surprise me that there is an increase. this is representing the reality that we know is there for all of the time. it is much easier for me to pick up the phone and ask for some support and intervention for me as a victim foran and intervention for me as a victim for an agency to help me with what i'm dealing with, to pick up the phone and call the police is asking the police to intervene with my perpetrator. that might feel a bit too risky. in normal times, they fail victims, we know that from the amount of murders that happen on an annual basis. they don't always fail victims, we should always say that, they have made absolutely unbelievable strides and progress
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over the years in terms of helping those experiencing domestic abuse and that includes men as well as women. this disparity between the figures that refuge had put out today, this big rise, compared to the fact that most uk police forces, according to these foia requests from the bbc have seen a drop in calls about domestic violence. —— freedom of information requests. is that because it is too scary to ring 999 if you're perpetrator is about? 0r 999 if you're perpetrator is about? or is it that police are not recognising the call they are receiving from an individual is a domestic abuse caught? 0r receiving from an individual is a domestic abuse caught? or is it both? it is both and we are seeing that all the time —— a domestic abuse call. in conversations i have had, it has already been identified where the floors and gaps are in terms of police intervention and a victim's lived experience —— where the flaws are. if they are
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criticising what i am wearing and criticising what i am wearing and criticising dinner, he raped me last night, like we were just hearing then, that it isn't necessarily that then, that it isn't necessarily that the police are going to log that as domestic abuse. i see too many logs... domestic abuse. i see too many logs. . . what domestic abuse. i see too many logs... what else would it be logged as? i have seen logs where they are reporting that had there has been name—calling or there has been shouting and arguments. there are no arguments in domestic abuse, there are staged events that look like an argument that feel exceptionally different. that is interesting about what you say about how things are logged. what should that be logged as in that example? domestic abuse. wright, as simple as that. absolutely. how would you describe, everybody can understand what sexual assault means and what rape means. —— right, simple as that. how do you describe coercive control because thatis
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describe coercive control because that is still an area that people don't get. what i refer to as the carbon monoxide in an abusive relationship. if he is punching me in the face, i understand what that is. i might rationalise it differently but i understand what that is. if he is doing the name—calling and reducing my self—esteem, i don't understand what that is. i find it harder to identify, as does society on the hull. there is no way to reinforce to me, yeah, that is what it is —— society on the whole. coercive control is a context of a pattern of behaviours. we need to start looking at less of what it is and trying to get some analysis on that, and looking more at what he is preventing her from doing. what is changing about her? we were just hearing about needing to check in on the school run, checking in when we are going to the shops and being available to our perpetrator all the time. but to society and ourselves, toa time. but to society and ourselves, to a degree, we know that we are
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just functioning normally, we are doing the school run and going to work, etc. natasha, you contacted the domestic abuse helpline when you are going through the violence you are going through the violence you are experiencing. was it a big step to do that or not? it was immense. as claire has just so rightly said, it's very difficult to address coercive control. even rape, you know, i was at the point of... if i was a better wife, maybe if i wanted to sleep with him multiple times a day, maybe if i did hoover the house five times a day like he wanted me to, maybe he would be happy. maybe it's a fault with me? for me to get to the point... i mean, i originally knew i needed to leave back when i was about eight weeks pregnant with my daughter, who is now 11. and it took me almost six years past that point to actually walk out the door and never return. that was thanks to
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refuge's helpline. it is hard to identify yourself as a victim and even harder to admit you are a victim. to go to somebody... i didn't know what to expect when i phoned the helpline. as claire said, phoning the police is that intervention that mightjust be that little bit further than you are hoping to step. and you have that element of not knowing. the lady on the end of the phone validated me. she said, what you are experiencing is illegal. it's not fair. it's not right. you know, you are right in your concerns that he is controlling your concerns that he is controlling you and that he is psychologically abusing you, the control is there. she said these are the things you can do about it. she didn't say, ok, you have to leave. and, yeah, it was a very sort of profound moment for me. it saved my life, without a
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doubt. when you say it like that, it really... it really does strike home, doesn't it? i want to thank you both very much for coming on the programme today, talking to us on airthis programme today, talking to us on air this morning. he no doubt he would have helped a number of people. we have some numbers to give out, as well. thank you, claire. natasha, thank you so much for being so natasha, thank you so much for being so open. you are welcome. thank you. if you need support then you can call the free 2a—hour national domestic abuse helpline, run by refuge, on 0808 2000 2a7 or go to nationaldahelpline. org.uk. i always get messages from people who say that's not the number for scotland. i want to give you that because it is a different number. 0800 027123a.
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when we switch to bbc two, which we will do injust a minute, we will talk about the split when it comes to childcare and domestic chores in your home wherever you are in the world through lockdown. there is some research out today from an organisation called the institute for fiscal studies which says, on the whole, women are doing more of everything and they are also disproportionately losing theirjobs compared to men as well. what is the split in your house? let me know. send me an e—mail. you can message me on twitter. now it's time for a look at the weather with carol. a full weather forecast. it will be lovely across the uk. hello again. if you're looking for rain, there really isn't much in the forecast for the next few days. and that that we do have isn't going to be particularly heavy where it falls. most of us are going to remain dry, sunny and warm and for some by the weekend very warm.
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what we have today is high pressure still in charge of our weather, it has been with us this week and it will see us through this week as well. but across the north of the country, we have a couple of fronts which are introducing thicker cloud and also some rain. as we go through the afternoon, there will be a lot of dry weather, a lot of sunshine, some low cloud just lapping on shore across parts of eastern england. and the front‘s coming in from the west producing some rain but it's not going to be heavy at this stage. we might see the odd drop across northern ireland and western scotland. temperatures ranging from 12 in the north to 25 in the south. now, if we pick up this rain through the evening and overnight as it crosses northernmost scotland, it will turn that bit heavier. move away from there, we are looking at a lot of dry weather, some clear skies, with some of this low cloud lapping a bit further inland. as a result of all of this, it's not going to be a cold night for most of the uk. so tomorrow, we say goodbye to that rain. you could even see a few spots across south—east scotland and north—east england before it
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eventually moves away. and once again it's going to be a dry day, variable amounts of cloud and a fair bit of sunshine. temperatures responding, 22 in edinburgh, 25 in liverpool, 26 in cardiff. by the time we get to friday, we still are looking at a lot of dry weather, the high pressure through thursday and into friday drifts in towards scandinavia. we start to pull in some breezier conditions, but also some warmer air from the near continent. so a largely dry day for us all during the course of friday, a lot of sunshine, a little bit of fair weather cloud here and there. not really that much of a breeze on friday, but temperatures, well, they are going to get up into the low to mid 20s quite widely and 27 in cardiff is likely to be the highest temperature and with high pressure in charge it is effectively keeping these weather fronts at bay. we don't think they are going to make any progress. if they do, then we are likely to see the odd spot of rain in northern ireland, possibly in western scotland but they are more likely to stay in the atlantic.
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