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tv   Breakfast  BBC News  May 28, 2020 6:00am-9:01am BST

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good morning. welcome to breakfast with naga munchetty and charlie stayt. our headlines today: tracing systems to find people who come into close contact with those infected with coronavirus start in england and scotland this morning. ministers hope it will allow the nationwide lockdown to be replaced with localised restrictions. but scientists say it's not a magic bullet. in the united states, more than 100,000 people have died from the virus in less than four months. the future for our biggest carfactory, nissan, is planning a big global reorganisation to cut costs.
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i'll look at how much the 7,000 workers here in the uk could be affected. good morning. a busy day on and off the training pitch, for premier league clubs. contact training including tackling, is allowed again, while meetings will be held today, to discuss a potential date to restart matches. it has been the driest may on record for some parts of the uk. increasing warmth is on its way. i'll have all of the details here on breakfast. good morning. it's thursday the 28th of may. our top story. new coronavirus test and trace systems will go live in england and scotland this morning. in an attempt to keep infection outbreaks contained, anyone who's been in close contact with someone who has tested positive will now be contacted and asked to self—isolate. the government says the system "will change people's lives", but scientists are warning it is not a "magic bullet". charlotte rose reports.
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we've all got used to the slogans and rules for tackling covid—i9, but from today there is a further change as parts of the uk moving to the test and trace phase stop the aim is to start to ease the nationwide lockdown and only bring it back in places where there is an outbreak. so, how will test and trace work in england? if you get symptoms, a high fever, persistent cough from loss of taste and smell, you must isolate and order a test. if you test positive, the contact and trace team will identify people you have been close enough to pass on the virus. those people will be categorised as either low or high risk. things will get in touch with people who might be in the high risk category. they will be encouraged to get a test if they develop symptoms themselves. the trial on the isle of wight‘s app
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is not yet ready so it won't be part today. if you are contacted by test and trace instructing you to isolate, you must. it is your civic duty. so you avoid unknowingly spreading the virus and you help to break the chain of transmission. but some remain cautious about how well the new system will cope stop we absolutely need rapid test turnaround. the international standard is you should get tests backin standard is you should get tests back in 2a—hours. there are far too many places in terms of our trust but also care homes who are saying they can't get results back any quicker than, for example, 3—5 days. later today, scotland's first minister nicola sturgeon is set to announce plans for using lockdown measures. the first minister has already announced plans for a
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scottish test and protect the system. northern ireland has already launched its system and wales is set to launch its system next week. it comes as a further 412 people died of coronavirus yesterday, taking the total to 37,460. 117,013 tests were done yesterday, with 2013 people testing positive. those people living in england will be the first to be contacted today is the new system launches. the government hopes these new measures will help to start the economic and social recovery from the virus. charlotte rose, bbc news. today also marks the next stage of the government's three—weekly review into lockdown measures in england, meaning ministers could announce a further easing of restrictions. that all depends on whether the latest advice from sage, the scientific advisory group for emergencies, supports it. 0ur political correspondent helen catt explains what it could mean for the next few months. the government has always said to
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move into a next phase and start to gradually relax lockdown restrictions in england they would have had to have met a certain number of conditions, by test they set themselves. this includes things that medical data, making sure there isa that medical data, making sure there is a sustained and consistent all in the daily death rate and also logistical stuff like making sure there is enough testing and personal protective equipment. so, what i would expect to hear from the government later today as some sort of assessment of if those tests have been met and therefore, can we from monday start moving into the next phase of the roadmap. and that includes things like reopening car showrooms on monday, for example. the partial reopening of schools two yea rs the partial reopening of schools two years one, six and reception, and also outdoor markets being able to open from monday and later in the month in mid—june, june 15, other non— essential retail shops to be able to reopen, too. so we expect to hear some sort of assessment to see if that can go ahead. the signs have been pretty good this week, so boris
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johnson earlier this week saying he believed the government would be in a position to move to phase two. yesterday, he told senior mps on a parliamentary committee that he hoped to be able to lower the covid—19 alert level, that colour—coded graft level alert from level four to level three. that means there is still an epidemic in general circulation, the virus is still there, but it is sufficiently contained that they are able to move to start to gradually relax some of those restrictions. so, that is what we are expecting to hear. a big thing people want to know, though, is when can we go and see people ain? is when can we go and see people again? when will we be able to increase social interaction? we understand that is something the government is looking out. that is something that would likely be outdoors but aside from that we don't really know how or when that might happen. scotland's first minister, nicola sturgeon, will announce changes to the lockdown rules in scotland later. it's expected that from
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tomorrow, people will be allowed to meet with one other household at a time, so long as they maintain social distancing. the welsh government's decision on what lockdown restrictions will be eased in wales will be revealed on friday, a minister has said. and in northern ireland, as many as six people from different households are now allowed to meet, as long as they are outdoors. large protests have broken out in america after the death of an unarmed black man in police custody. president trump says he's asked the fbi and the department ofjustice to investigate the incident. george floyd died in minneapolis — he'd been arrested and pinned down in the street, with an officer kneeling on his neck. four officers have been sacked. david willis reports. racialfault racial fault lines racialfault lines laid racial fault lines laid bare once again ina racial fault lines laid bare once again in a nation at the epicentre of the covid—19 pandemic. protesters clashed with police in the city of minneapolis and looting broke out as coles grew for justice following the
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death of another unarmed black man at the hands of white police officers. cellphone video of the arrest of george floyd shows him handcuffed and pleading for air. i cannot breathe! as an officer presses his knee on the back of mr floyd's next eventually, he loses consciousness and was then taken to hospital, where he was pronounced dead stop police originally said he was resisting arrest, but security camera footage provided no evidence of that. during a visit to nasa's kennedy space center, president trump gave his reaction to george floyd was ‘s death. trump gave his reaction to george floyd was 's death. very, very sad. add event. -- sad event. should they be prosecuted, sir? we're looking at it and we will get a report tomorrow when we get back. will get a report on that very sad day. 46-year-old george floyd was arrested on suspicion of trying to part of a
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counterfeit check, four of the police officers involved in his arrest have since been fired, but there are now growing calls for them to face criminal charges. i'm calling on anna benton county attorney mike freeman to charge the arresting officer in this case —— hennepin. los angeles also turned violent, police cars were attacked in one of the city's main freeways was blocked very time by protesters. in minneapolis, a city where the police force has long been criticised for tolerating racism, feelings are running high. george floyd's death has printed comparison with previous killings in other parts of the country involving black suspects and white police officers. the problem this country cannot seem to shake off. evan willis, bbc news, los angeles —— david willis. the us secretary of state, mike pompeo, has told congress that
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hong kong no longer qualifies for special trade status, because it has ceased to maintain autonomy from mainland china. he said it was clear that china was modelling hong kong after itself. if the territory loses its preferential status, it will face the same tariffs and export controls as the mainland. we can now speak to our china correspondent, robin brant. good morning to you, robin. just ta ke good morning to you, robin. just take us through what has been said and what are the implications? well, charlie, what this is about is about beating's la nsbury well, charlie, what this is about is about beating's lansbury national security law which it will impose, and that is the key word, impose, on hong kong after a year of street protests there. ageing said it wants tougher measures to deal with what it has cold threats to subversion, secession, foreign interference and terrorism as well. now, that law is due to be passed by delegates up at an annual meeting at china's parliament in beijing in the next couple of hours. that rubberstamp is a foregone conclusion. what we are not quite sure about is comes next. united states believes those changes
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mean an end to hong kong's much cherished autonomy, autonomy in its legal system, it has different money, different police, a different education system. and because of the outcome of the us has given it privileges in the past. it is cheaper to trade from hong kong with the united states was that there is an extradition law as well. but mike pompeo believe this move by beijing by the communist party leaders there means autonomy is over. so doesn't trump now needs to decide what he will do. will he and that special trading status for hong kong? that could have a huge impact on hong kong's existence as a key financial centre common not just kong's existence as a key financial centre common notjust in china, but also in asia. i have to say there is no sign that beijing is willing to i’ow no sign that beijing is willing to row back, its no sign that beijing is willing to row back, it's looking like it wants to go further and further to injury can bring hong kong into its fold under the control of the communist party leaders in beijing. robin, thanks very much. bad weather has delayed the launch of the first privately funded mission to the international
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space station. the spacex falcon 9 rocket, funded by tesla owner elon musk, was halted 17 minutes before take—off because of thunderstorms. the next available window for a new attempt is on saturday. ido like i do like seeing rocket launches. we will see on saturday. we will follow that for you. it is 6:12am. as we've been hearing, injust overfour months, the coronavirus pandemic has claimed more than 100,000 lives in america, more than anywhere else in the world. 0ur north america correspondent, aleem maqbool, has been speaking to some of the families who have lost loved ones. # happy birthday to you... friends and relatives of more than 100,000 people in america can nowjust cling to the memories of happier times before the coronavirus.
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my father was a really caring person. he just wanted to help people and he was really outgoing. he thought he was really funny. doug was one of the first confirmed deaths back on the first of march. as somebody who lost someone so close to them and was someone obviously very, very dear to you so early on, when you saw the way this was going in the country, how has it made you feel over the last couple months? it's scary. it's sad. i feel angry. we should have been listening to the doctors and the scientists. we should not have been listening to people talking about the stock market. it's natural that people are reaching for answers, for someone to be accountable after scenes like mass graves being dug in new york and refrigerated trucks lining up to receive the dead once the morgues were full. i'll see you saturday.
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we now know that african—americans, like rhoda hatch, are still dying in disproportionate numbers. i think 100,000 is an extraordinary number. it means that there's a lot of pain and grief. some of us in the black community are very concerned that as the narrative became that african—america ns were disproportionately impacted by the virus, that there was also a push to open up the country and made many of us think prematurely that suggested the devaluation of black lives. those calls to reopen go on, even as the number of dead continues to mount and as the nation mourns. well, flags have been lowered here after tragedies like mass shootings, and even then, it's been difficult to grapple with the scale of loss after sometimes dozens of people have been killed.
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but how then does america even began to count the emotional cost of such a staggering number of deaths that have happened in fewer than 90 devastating days? to really do justice to the stories of those lost would take many lifetimes. for people left behind, the question lingers, could more have been done so these americans and tens of thousands of others might still be around? aleem maqbool, bbc news, in washington. let's speak now to dr shannon bennett, a virologist from the california academy of sciences. thank you very much portal into us this morning. this 100,000 figure, without being crass about it, it's such a milestone in many ways and a figure that no—one wanted to reach. what the impact of this? it's very shocking because it happened so quickly, and we really we re happened so quickly, and we really were completely unprepared. we had
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warnings, we ignored those warnings, and we are paying the price now with so many deaths on our hands. i'm going to go straight to the heart of what you've just said — you said there were warnings, and not enough has been done. who's to blame with yellow well, i do think this is a very highly polarising conversation and the tendency is for leaders to blame other countries but we we re leaders to blame other countries but we were to blame, we were slow to act, we didn't have a consolidated reaction. if we rush to open too fast for we're prepared again, we will pay the price in the future. so we really have to give the blame away to somebody else to give up control. we have the control and we have to ta ke we have the control and we have to take the responsibility. i'm going to fill in the blanks for anyone watching, i assume you're referring to president trump attributing the source of the virus and the pandemic to china, and
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you're taking a look and the way facilities have been supported, ppe and lockdown as to whether or not facilities should open. he's been a supporter of getting business back up supporter of getting business back up and running. what i'll put to you is in the uk our government has faced very similar criticisms in terms of preparedness. this was new to everyone, wasn't it? yes, it was new but we saw what was happening in china and there was time to prepare. we could have done things to limit travel much and we could have put in the infrastructure we needed in the healthcare sector in terms of preparing for social distancing, supporting schools, school lunches and society in general. so there is plenty we could have done to prepare, and we can do now and in fa ct prepare, and we can do now and in fact many states and counties across the nation have set up certain bars 01’ the nation have set up certain bars or thresholds that we need to reach
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before we can reopen. and until we reached those thresholds we have no -it reached those thresholds we have no — it would be irresponsible to reopen. needed we are where we are now obviously not where anyone wants to be asa obviously not where anyone wants to be as a country. let's look at the science, you are a virologist, so much talk about a vaccine and international cooperation, whether it is or isn't happening and almost a race to get one out there. how is the us dealing with this? there's over 100 vaccine candidates. the united states has different methods and it wants to back several different kinds, and that makes sense because different vaccines will take different approaches, and most importantly they will require critical resources to scale the production of those vaccines and get them to people who need them. not all vaccines will be
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produced at the scale we need to produced at the scale we need to produce them. scaling that to treating the world and developing a synergistic response, because if the virus is flaring up deferentially in different countries, or even here in the united states, it can see new outbreaks in unvaccinated populations, so it really calls for a global response and the challenge is in scaling and distributing the different vaccines we may have available. all of us keeping fingers crossed we get there sooner rather than later. doctor shannon bennett, virologist and chief of science at the california academy of sciences. thank you forjoining us on brea kfast thank you forjoining us on breakfast this morning. let's take a look at today's papers. the daily express leads on the roll—out of the test—and—trace scheme in england, which the paper says is "key to our freedom". that is our main story this morning. it describes the scheme as "world—beating" and says
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it is being introduced to help tackle covid—19 and end the current restrictions. the times says the new plans could mean a "tighter lockdown" for hundreds of thousands of people and says there is a "personal responsibility" to self—isolate for 14 days if you've had contact with someone who has coronavirus. the paper also carries a picture of astronauts from the spacex launch which was postponed due to bad weather in florida. the guardian front page focuses on the fallout from the row surrounding dominic cummings. it reports that penny mordaunt, who is a senior minister, "broke ranks" to accuse mr cummings of inconsistencies around his decision to drive 260 miles from london to county durham. the picture is of newsnight presenter emily maitlis, who the bbc says breached impartiality guidelines during her introduction about dominic cummings on tuesday's programme. "ale meet again" is the headline on the sun, which suggests "thirsty brits could be back boozing in pubs next month". the paper says the prime minister "suggested" experts are close to finding a solution to halt
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the spread of coronavirus in drinking establishments. let's look at a few of the inside pages. a lot of question marks about how theatres, for example, will try to operate in any sense at all, even without audiences. the old vic in london restaged a play there a while ago starring matt foy and matt smith. it was called lungs. very well received. 0nly smith. it was called lungs. very well received. only two of them on stage, and you could say that's perfect for it. they will recreate this, do a live performance and buy a ticket from home to watch it. in the play, there's many times where they had clenches, they are a couple going through various traumas, so it will be redone so there always two metres apart. notjust in terms of
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the way it is filmed but in the way it is created. 0ne the way it is filmed but in the way it is created. one way of getting around some of the restrictions.” around some of the restrictionslj would definitely watch something like that, it is new art! a question for you, looking at the times, how sexy are your stamens, charlie? we're talking about the discussion around bouquets at the moment, did you know there's lots of rules about how to have your flowers in your house? do you have in your house? why not? why do they need to be rules ? why not? why do they need to be rules? the peeny is the star of the season but there's a rule of thumb, with a flower arrangement, it should be twice the size of the vase. d1 hi, high, one low rule, have you heard of this? you never want your flowers to look like a ball of roses, so asymmetrical arrangements
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are needed. the rules are always arranged in threes and fives. are needed. the rules are always arranged in threes and fivesm are needed. the rules are always arranged in threes and fives. it is starting to take the fun and the delight out of flowers when you have so many rules. if it looks nice, do it! have you had fun flower arranging? why not? i'm a thion of green foliage in amongst flower arrangements. —— i'm a fan of. green foliage in amongst flower arrangements. -- i'm a fan of. use forest foliage and incorporate massive foliage in arrangements. big branches of greenery, beech, birch, hazel, willow. who are these people? loads of celebrity flower arrangers. bashing the end of a stem. people think it will increase water absorption, don't do it. it does encourage water absorption but also bacteria growth, so stick to cutting. now we know! whether it's from our doorsteps
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or ourfront rooms, the nation has come together every thursday to applaud the front line workers tackling the coronavirus outbreak. tonight marks the 10th week of clap for carers, and some are asking if it could be the last. reporter tim muffet has been looking back at how a simple idea has impacted so many. applause the sounds of thursday nights at 8pm. neighbours... shoppers... hospital staff... 0n land... at sea... across the uk... and abroad. a simple idea that grew and grew. 0n the uk... and abroad. a simple idea that grew and grew. on this council estate in north london, the impact of the weekly clap for carers has been profound. it's brought the community together, even though i've lived here 17
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yea rs. even though i've lived here 17 years. i got to know people i never would have met. its basically brought love, which is the key thing to all of our lives. have there been neighbours you've seen because of the weekly clap that maybe you wouldn't have seen otherwise? definitely, windows open, curtains pulled back and people show themselves. you see an exuberance for being part of this big celebration. but after ten weeks, this estate is bringing its weekly nhs clap for carers to an end. tonight's will be the last. we'll be out again tonight, you know, cheering people tonight, you know, cheering people to the rafters but some people feel it's time to end on a high. the idea to end the weekly clap is shared by the person who started it. the reason why i will stop giving support to the weekly event is because i think it's good to end it while it still has such a positive impact. i hope that the legacy will be that it brought us together, and
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we'll always feel that gratitude and appreciation we have towards essential workers. some have said the weekly clap has also become too politicised. but not eve ryo ne also become too politicised. but not everyone wants it to end. some nhs staff say it still inspires them. really, really positive impact on us. it's made us feel really valued as well. i think a lot of people wa nt as well. i think a lot of people want it to carry on, i'd be happy to carry on for another period of time. it has to come to an end sometime, but let's hope it carries on — all the better. it's showing an appreciation for what we do here, it shows we've done a good job. exmouth town crier roger had just been released from hospital having survived covid—19 when he came to his doorstep for the first time. survived covid—19 when he came to his doorstep for the first timelj was feeling too weak to clap, but i could ring my town crier bell very
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loudly. i was in my little hospital in exeterfor 11 loudly. i was in my little hospital in exeter for 11 days, loudly. i was in my little hospital in exeterfor 11 days, i nearly died. it's only because of them that i'm alive. i wasjust died. it's only because of them that i'm alive. i was just saying thank you in my own way, and it has served its purpose, it's made a mark and its purpose, it's made a mark and its effect will be weaker if we carry on. tonight at 8pm, we'll gather again and clap for the 10th time, and for some, the last. tim muffett, bbc news. it is 6:27am. we will talk to matt and find out what's happening with the weather in a minute. although some restrictions may be lifting, hairdressers doors still remain firmly shut, and the prospect of no appointment for at least another month has driven many to take matters into their own hands. have you had a home haircut? send your pictures to us. have you been resorting to that? some home hairdressing has happened. this is a fact. you have actually
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cut that? i don't know why you find that so odd, it is an absolute necessity, but there is evidence you've done the same. necessity, but there is evidence you've done the samelj necessity, but there is evidence you've done the same. i couldn't ta ke you've done the same. i couldn't take it! i actually cut all of my hair. to many of my make up friends and hairdressing friends' consternation, they said, "what are you doing?" i'm not sure i like that, what you're doing. it isjust hair ina that, what you're doing. it isjust hair in a sink, charlie, that's all! but i think i did 0k! hair in a sink, charlie, that's all! but i thinkl did 0k! what hair in a sink, charlie, that's all! but i think i did 0k! what camera shall we look at? a close—up on five so people can judge for themselves. it is neat, there are no chunks out of it, i think! it is it is neat, there are no chunks out of it, ithink! it is actually it is neat, there are no chunks out of it, i think! it is actually not a bad job. matt, what do you say? matt, have i done all right? are you going to tell her about the big gap at the back that she can't see? we all agreed we would say nothing! there is no gap at the back at all!
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that is fine! you have done very well, well done! morning, matt! i was looking at the mail today looking at a reservoir in west yorkshire, saying the levels have fallen, parts are turning brown, the driest may since victorian times and lots of people are worried and they're desperate for some rain. any on the way? no rain on the way but it is dry out there, the driest on record for some parts of england in particular but the good news is because the winter was so wet, ground levels and many reservoirs are still high. we will look at that later but no rain in the forecast for the rest of this month. staying dry across most parts of the uk and turning warmer over the next few days as well, certainly warm in the sunshine across many southern and eastern areas. changes to the east today. we keep the cloud at bay largely to the north, producing rain in northern scotland but even that is starting to fade. low cloud down some of the eastern coastal
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districts and counties bursting. that brought in by a developing easterly breeze, keeping it cooler. —— first thing. cloud in northern scotla nd —— first thing. cloud in northern scotland through the day, where temperatures will be limited to around 11 to 14. ignore that one there! inland in scotland temperatures climbing, 22 or 23 possible. 24 to the west of northern ireland and blue skies from dawn to dusk for many. warmest in western england and wales. in east anglia, the south—east, cooler than yesterday thanks to the breeze from a rather chilly sea. 0nly yesterday thanks to the breeze from a rather chilly sea. only 11 or 12. this evening and overnight, mist and low cloud will return to some eastern counties of england in particular. misty and murky in the likes of shetland. for most, clear skies into tomorrow morning. the odd mist orfog skies into tomorrow morning. the odd mist or fog patches for the early risers, but that will quickly dissipate under what will be another day of blue skies all the way through. even low cloud in eastern counties will break up through the
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morning into the afternoon. a little bit of fairweather cloud here and there. still cloudy in shetland, though, most will have sunshine and a bit more breeze blowing through tomorrow from a south—easterly direction, so some southern and eastern coasts will have temperatures a bit lower again. across western areas, 26, 27 in western parts of england, wales and the west of scotland. into the weekend, some parts of northern scotla nd weekend, some parts of northern scotland could be around ten to 12 above where they should be for the time of year. naga and charlie, back to you. looking glorious and. matt, thanks very much and see you good morning, this is breakfast with naga munchetty and charlie stayt. test and trace systems go live in england and scotland this morning, in an attempt to keep coronavirus outbreak contained. anyone who's been in close contact with someone who's tested positive will now be asked to self—isolate. the government says the scheme "will change people's lives", but scientists are warning it is not a "magic bullet".
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northern ireland has already launched its own tracing system and it's due to start in wales on monday. more than 100,000 people have died from covid—19 in the united states. 0ne from covid—19 in the united states. one point silly and —— 1.6 million cases account for around 30% of the global total. based on population, the us still ranks ninth in its mortality rate behind the likes of belgium, the uk and france. large protests are underway in america after the death of an unarmed black man in police custody. president trump says he's asked the fbi and the department ofjustice to investigate the incident. george floyd died in minneapolis — he'd been arrested and pinned down in the street, with an officer kneeling on his neck. four officers have been sacked and george floyd's family have called for them to be charged with murder. it's now 6:32am. mike will have sport for us in six minutes.
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now it's time to answer some of your questions with our gp. today we're joined by doctor siema iqbal from manchester. very good morning to you. how are you? good morning. i'm very well, thank you. because were going at the moment? we have been through various stages with gps about them worrying about people coming forward, how you work in practice. what is the day—to—day routine at the moment?” think things have definitely changed this week. we are definitely seeing much more of patients who have chronic diseases, if you have tried to manage their illnesses at home for approximately now two months, struggling now and making contact. it has certainly got a lot more severe. the cases we are seeing, cases where we have had to refer patients on what we call a 2— week weight, which is an urgent referral for possibly quite serious conditions such as cancer. so the
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message hasn't changed. i think the m essa g es very message hasn't changed. i think the messages very much the same. but you are worried about them is, please contact someone so we can assess how soon those symptoms need to be seen. particularly we are doing telephone consultations but many of those concentrations now are being converted to face—to—face appointments —— those consultations, and those numbers should be significantly raising every day so patients are presenting more complex things that cannot necessarily be dealt with over the phone. and gp surgeries are open, so we will and we are able to see patients face—to—face. we are able to see patients face-to-face. that's a good point well made. i think people are now wising up to the fact that they can go back and see you and how a conversation again. i want to ask about test and trace, which comes in today this morning, the new means by which those people who have tested positive and you try and get to their contacts. how clear are you about how the system works, and what
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involvement, if any might gps like you have? my understanding is that you have? my understanding is that you know, as you were before, if you develop symptoms you need to isolate the seven days, your household members need to isolate for 14 days. but now the person who has symptoms can ring, i think 119 and talk to someone who will try and figure out who they have been in close contact with. my understanding of what is a close contact at the moment is one who they had been in face—to—face contact with more or less than two metres for 15 minutes or more. so, i think the guidance is there. how well this will work, i suppose, will depend on how many people ring the number, 119, and how many people give the information of who they have been in close contact with. it is all very new to me at the moment. the first we heard about it was the briefing yesterday. i'm sure when i go to work there will be numerous
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e—mails on the topic today. as the gp they will be some confusion as a lwa ys gp they will be some confusion as always from patients who are unclear whether they need to ring 119 or do they still continue to isolate? 0ur worry is perhaps people will think they don't need to take the lockdown as seriously. i know the lockdown has eased, but my biggest concern is people. doing the basic things that they need to do which are most effective at preventing infections __ my effective at preventing infections —— my biggest concern is people shall stop doing the basic things that they need to do which of the most effective at preventing infections like washing your hands. how many people will be contacted from this system still remains to be seen. it seems worth going back in a way. much of this will be reliant on people being honest, but also being self—aware about, for people being honest, but also being self—awa re about, for example, symptoms they have and whether the
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symptoms they have and whether the symptoms of the ones you need to worry about. going back to the basics of what people need to look out for in themselves and members of theirfamily stopped out for in themselves and members of their family stopped it does.” think it does. and initially when the pandemic broke we were told if you have a temperature of 37.8 or more, or if you have a cough you need to stop isolate, very recently, even though we have known for quite a while that the loss of sense of taste or smell is a symptom of covid—19, it is only until very recently that was brought into government guidance. i think if you are worried about any symptoms you should contact a healthcare provider. symptoms may present with diarrhoea or a rush or adults may present with other symptoms such as what we call myalgia, which is a exa m what we call myalgia, which is a exam pains, there are other symptoms that may mean you need to isolate or it would be best for you to isolate other than the three symptoms the government is on its website. so if
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you are concerned and you think you may have covid—19, please isolate and contact a healthcare provider. doctor iqbal, thank you. are you on duty today? yes, i am, i will be going on very shortly. thank you for joining us. and make it here with the sport, as i promised. we were talking about test and trace today, also, this is impacting sport and so many sports people want to know they will be in a safe environment if and when they resumed their professions. yeah, absolutely. and so far in the premier league at least the steps have been seen as positive and progress is encouraging. a significant step will be taken today, on the timeline towards the starting the premier league again but brings with it a heightened risk of transmission. from this morning, players will be allowed to start contact training, and this comes after
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four new positive tests for coronavirus at three different clubs. that's over 1000 tests carried out in the last couple of days. for the last week, training sessions have resembled this — something so different, with social distancing enforced. now tackling and somelthing like close contact of old will be permitted, although it'll be down to individual clubs to decide how best to implement it and keep players safe. the clubs, what they are trying to do, the maximum they can to help us. you know? to help us stay minimum, you know, maximum, yeah? maximum away from danger. so that's important for us. we feel safe. there are still plenty of details to be sorted before we'll see matches again though. more discussions will take place today, including the possibility of using neutral venues, what to do if the season cannot be finished and a potential start date,
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most likely in the second half ofjune. prince william has been speaking to professional football about their mental health battles as part of a new documentary featuring his heads up new documentary featuring his heads up initiative. he talks about the problem of suicide in men. a lot of people don't know about suicide because they haven't come across it or seen it. it is one of the biggest killers of young men under 45. as the biggest killers of young men under45. as pain the biggest killers of young men under 45. as pain and grief goes, andl under 45. as pain and grief goes, and i have heard this from sadly too many families who have been bereaved by suicide, it is one of the rawest forms of grief because you are left with so many unanswered questions. could i have done more? should i have done more? why did they do it? i hear both of you have had friends or loved ones who have taken their own life in the last couple of years, is that right? i had a friend who took his life he was very sociable, had lots of friends, and there was no letter, there was
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nothing. so, that's the biggest worry. you know, like, why? it was out of the blue. he was partying, he was life and soul, he was a big bloke out front, and i think we as footballers don't want to speak. i can't imagine what he was going through. suicide is, it's, it's scary and it's frightening and it's real. men seem to have a real issue of opening up and being able to talk about it. if we can have a major impact on lowering suicide rates, that's a success from this campaign. and in the programme the duke of cambridge also revealed the normal way he overcame his anxiety when public speaking. i had problems with anxiety, you got people looking at you ready for seven. seven days and certain speeches when i was growing up, you definitely get anxiety,‘
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this has got to go right! ' and you can see certain people. really, the thing that helped me was i didn't realise was i'm wearing contact lenses. my eyesight started to go a bit as they went older and i didn't use contacts. so when i gave speeches i couldn't see anyone because my face. what? and it helped because my face. what? and it helped because it wasjust because my face. what? and it helped because it was just a blur faces was that you can see anyone looking at you. i could read notes but i couldn't see the people. actually, that really helped my anxiety. you know, i was going, i that really helped my anxiety. you know, iwas going, i have that really helped my anxiety. you know, i was going, i have to get this right. i was nervous, you have to projecting get all the things right. i didn't realise it at the time, but! right. i didn't realise it at the time, but i realise is what helped. you know, you can't feel like the whole room is watching you can't see them. that full documentary on prince william and mental health is the note at 8:05pm. —— airs tonight. if you would like any support with the issues discussed
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in the documentary, you can head over to the bbc‘s action line for details of organisations who can offer help. that's bbc.co.uk/actionline. it's very important to stress there is help out there. do you is that you, mike? no, my site is the other way. i can see people's faces in the distance. when you do a thought, or public speaking —— a talk, or even being best man, you catch the eye of someone in the front row, you catch their eye, and you get that stab out. like you're doing.” their eye, and you get that stab out. like you're doing. i think it's about the material, not the eyesight. i tell you what, about the material, not the eyesight. itell you what, my, that's a first, isn't it? that when came between you and me, charlie took my side. wow, it's awful, isn't it? police have fired tear gas in the us city of minneapolis, where demonstrators are protesting over the death of an unarmed black
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man in police custody. a video of the incident shows the man, george floyd, pinned down by his neck. he can be heard repeatedly telling officers, "i can't breathe!" president trump has said he's asked the fbi to investigate. let's speak to local journalist, mark van cleave. thank you very much what talking to us this morning, mark van cleave. you are in minnesota, minneapolis. you've seen the impact of the death of this gentleman, what is happening around you now? there's a tremendous amount of anger in minneapolis right now. what started out today as relatively peaceful protest have descended into violence, looting and arson. what time is it there, so we can figure out what's going on? it's almost 1am in minnesota. so you've spent a lot of time there, tell me —
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how reactionary is minneapolis generally? this has outraged the whole country, but... i've lived in minnesota for almost 30 years, my entire life, and i've never seen a reaction quite like this to any kind of police killing. so what are people doing? we heard some car horns there, what is happening on the streets? there was a big confrontation outside a police precinct where this officer who was involved in the killing was based. that has sort of cleared up and now that's spread across all parts of the city, still looting shops, smashing windows and that's what you're hearing right now. how our police reacting to that? there's two levels — there the anger at this individual policeman, these offices, and the family of george floyd is calling for them to be charged with murder, but their colleagues going about their business and doing their
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jobs now have two calm this situation. the police have largely looked on from dealing with any of the protesters or anybody else inside the precinct. it is pretty much flawless across large parts of the city now. how long has this been going on? what is the prospect in terms of this actually being calmed down? i don't know what's going to calm this down. this is completely uncharted territory for this city. i've never seen anything like this before, and i think most people here have never experienced anything like this before. who is gathering? what parts of the community are gathering? is it widespread across all parts of the community in minneapolis? i think you're seeing a lot of outrage right now from all different parts of the community. i think that you're seeing a larger amount of people than you usually see coming together for a political cause on
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the streets right now, and... inaudible president donald trump has said he's asked the fbi to investigate. in terms of timing, what does that look like? i thank that's to be determined, i don't think anyone here has any clue what's going to happen with federal investigations at this point. i think most people are more concerned with the future of their city and what they're going to wake up tomorrow. the mayor, jacob frey, has said officers used unnecessary force. has that helped at all calm the anger in the community over george floyd's death? it's hard to how it has. it's been interesting talking to you, mark. mark van cleave, reporterfor the star tribune, thanks for keeping us up—to—date and stay safe. let's have a track with sean. we are concentrating for a moment on the
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car industry, and like so many industries, many question marks —— chat. let's focus on nissan, and in sunderland they have 7000 staff, but there's been messages coming from there's been messages coming from the bosses about changes. big changes on the way for nissan globally. the biggest carfactory is the one in this —— in sunderland that nissan have. the details released later today will be pretty crucial for those workers stop in most of the 7000 are furloughed at the moment, so they're not working ——. most of the 7000 are furloughed at the moment, so they're not working. the showrooms have been closed, so they haven't been able to sell new cars. and they want to get workers back into their plants around the uk as safely as possible.
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you can see the knock—on effect of that has impacted the industry as a whole, and when you look at nissan's figures as well. in april, nissan announced that global car sales plunged just over 40% in march from a year ago, reflective of the wider industry and its expected that later this morning it will announce that the company has made a loss for the first time in 11 years. something we have heard from many car companies over recent weeks. before this crisis, the company was already planning big jobs cuts. lastjuly, it said 12,500 roles would go globally nearly 10 per cent of its 140,000 people workforce. there were already plans from car companies like nissan about cuts. it hasn't been an easy time for them anyway. how they view what they want
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to be making at the plant in sunderland is pretty crucial. nissan has invested more than £4 billion in sunderland, the qashqai, thejuke and the electric leaf are built there. it has already said they want to work more closely with their rivals so they can co—operate more on car production and save money there, which is why there's some people speculating there may be some of renault‘s models, for example, brought to be built at the plant with nissan. whatever happens today will be crucial for those on 7000 people who do actually work at that plant. there's a number of different scenarios that might come out of this. one is the fall on barcelona and some production of renault models is shifted to sunderland. that would be great news for the uk. another scenario is sunderland isn't backed in terms of new models, which
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is raising big questions about the future of the plant, especially in the context of the brexit uncertainty. remember, the french government is a major shareholder and it's in the process of supporting the industry in a big way with a loan backed guarantee to renault. it's a big shareholder to renault. it's a big shareholder to renault and it's looking to re— localise production in france. after 9a m localise production in france. after 9am we will get more details from nissan on their plans. feels like one way or another, pretty big day for workers at that factory in sunderland. certainly years, sean. thanks very much and see you later on. —— certainly is, sean. the launch of the first private craft to take humans into space has been delayed because of poor weather. two nasa astronauts were scheduled to blast off in a rocket built and operated by spacex, which is owned by tesla boss elon musk. jane 0'brien sent this report from florida. the launch was always going to depend on the weather, and all day the signs were ominous. black clouds swelled, thunderstorms circled and
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there was even a tornado warning. even then, spacex and nasa remained optimistic that the tiny window needed for takeoff would materialise. the astronauts continued according to plan. they boarded the dragon capsule and the hatch was closed. the rocket was fuelled and the escape systems were armed. then, for three hours, they waited. but the final weather briefing warning of electric fields, and build clouds and lightning ended all hope. dragons spacex, u nfortu nately we a re all hope. dragons spacex, unfortunately we are not going to launch today. you are go for five dock 100 launch scrub. the astronauts appear to take the news in their stride, even though the anticlimax among spectators was palpable. president trump had flown in on air force one to witness history, delighted by the made in america tag for this launch. the first american rocket to take off from american
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soil carrying american astronauts, but it was not to be. that clock says it all — the very moment of disappointment, when the mission was scrubbed because of weather app 16 minutes and 54 seconds to launch. but it will start on saturday and weather permitting, through dragon will take off. jane 0'brien, bbc news, at the kennedy space centre. three hours they were waiting, poised, and then it was off. anticipation! most children across the uk haven't stepped foot in school for more than two months. for some of them, it's been a welcome break, but for others the pandemic has affected their confidence and their mental wellbeing. with some pupils in england due to return to the classroom as early as next week, the children's commissioner is now calling for a mental health counsellor in every school. sima kotecha reports. sunshine and cricket — the lockdown
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hasn't always been like this for ten—year—old armun, the youngest of three brothers, its lead to anxiety and distress. 0n three brothers, its lead to anxiety and distress. on one occasion he had what felt like a panic attack. and distress. on one occasion he had what felt like a panic attackm was very tense inside, it was very ha rd was very tense inside, it was very hard because i was thinking about what was going to happen next, whether anything was going to happen between the family. i couldn't do it anymore, so i wanted to go out and let it all out, but i couldn't. his mum's worried about the impact it will have on his long—term mental health. trying to support him now, and in the future, we don't know how this is going to impact him — the consta nt this is going to impact him — the constant question of when will it end, what if it comes back? what if one of us gets it, what if we die? it's quite a lot for a ten—year—old. a survey by one charity suggests 67% of pa rents a survey by one charity suggests 67% of parents and carers are also
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concerned about the mental—health impact the coronavirus outbreak will have on their children, with many noticing an increase in depression and anxiety. the children's commissionerfor and anxiety. the children's commissioner for england wants schools to be at the forefront of providing mental health support. so, what i'm calling for is a mental health counsellor in every school to help children recover from the covid emergency and help them gain the confidence and resilience they need to move forward and make most of their education, and their childhood, which has been on hold for so many weeks. but, at a time when the country's facing a recession and there is likely to be tighter budgets, there's doubt over whether this idea is financially viable. the government says it recognises the importance of mental health during this time. in a statement, it says:
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coronavirus has affected the lives of all of us. its impact on the minds of the youngest in society might only be properly understood in yea rs might only be properly understood in years to come. sima kotecha, bbc news. all of this while everyone is waiting to if they are, for certain year groups, going back on monday and we'll get more on that later in the programme. here's matt with a look at this morning's weather. it is dry? very dry. these are the fields just outside my village in south bucks, cracked and dry ground, and unsurprising considering some parts of england have now had their driest may on record. body who spent any length of time
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outside a supermarket in a queue during lockdown knows that dry spell has gone even longer, north—east england has had its driest spring on record, a record stretch of three months and aberdeen, anglesey and crosby in merseyside also seeing record dry weather. add onto that the fact it's been dry across the south and driest of all was benson in 0xfordshire, where there's been no real rainfall recorded through this month. just a few drops here and there and plenty of sunshine has gone with it. a record—breaking spring in morcombe and wittering just outside peterborough with sunshine levels. that's had its impact, so the drier ground there, but the rivers in parts of north—west england struggling at the moment, these rivers at levels we've not seen since the droughts in 2011 and 1984. if i show you these last couple of charts. remember, we had all that wet weather to end the winter. the green colours show where
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we started march with the ground particularly wet. where it's gone brown, we are now especially dry with the ground much drier than what it should be for the time of year but some good news, because we saw the wet weather at the end of winter, reservoirs are still full and groundwater levels are still where they should be for the time of year. i have to say, there is no more rain in the forecast for the rest of this month for the vast majority either and if anything, for some, the ground will dry out a bit more because it's going to get warmer. warm day today with plenty of sunshine, a bit of light rain in the far north of at the moment from this cloud don mcleod, toppling around the area of high pressure. breaking up the area of high pressure. breaking up through scotland today. low cloud in eastern counties of england, that will break up, for most it will be long spells of sunshine from the start of the day to the end. where the cloud sits in place in 0rkney, shetland, far northern scotland, 11 to 14 but warming up in the rest of
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scotland. c temperatures only nine to 14 or 15, so wherever you have a sea feeling cooler. especially in east anglia as the seabreeze picks up, so western areas that were missed with 25 or 26 in the west of wales. the sunshine particularly strong, so take note of that. into this evening and overnight, low cloud stays for shetland and a return to eastern counties of england into tomorrow morning. single figures for a few but most will be double figures into friday. a very similar day today for the vast majority. low cloud where we've got it in eastern counties will break up, fairweather cloud here and there. a bit gloomy in shetland but some sunny moments expected. much of the country, again, sunshine from the country, again, sunshine from the start to the end stop ea bit more breeze, coming from an easterly direction so we'll see temperatures along the east coast struggling a touch. away from that, temperatures
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26 or 27 towards the west. climbing in western and northern scotland too, tend to 13 degrees higher than it should be for the time of year. the sunshine and the warmth continues for many this weekend stop your up—to—date with the latest weather. all the breakfast headlines coming up next. good morning. welcome to breakfast with naga munchetty and charlie stayt. 0ur headlines today: tracing systems to find people who come into close contact with those infected with coronavirus start in england and scotland this morning. ministers hope it will allow the nationwide lockdown to be replaced with localised restrictions. but scientists say it's not a magic bullet. this in the us, more than 100,000 people have died from the virus in less than four months. still waiting for a refund — the worst airlines are named and shamed as thousands of customers
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have still not had their money back for flights cancelled up to two months ago. i'll have a look at why not. a busy day on and off the training pitch for premier league clubs as contact training including tackling is allowed again, while meetings will be held today to discuss a potential date to restart matches. good morning. it's thursday the 28th of may. our top story: new coronavirus test and trace systems will go live in england and scotland this morning. in an attempt to keep infection outbreaks contained, anyone who's been in close contact with someone who has tested positive will now be contacted and asked to self—isolate. the government says the system "will change people's lives", scientists think it could prevent between 5% and 15% of cases. charlotte rose reports. we've all got used to the slogans and rules for tackling covid—19, but from today there's a further change as parts of the uk move into the 'test and trace' phase.
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the aim is to start to ease the nationwide lockdown and only bring it back in places where there's an outbreak. so, how will test and trace work in england? if you get symptoms, a high fever, persistent cough or loss of taste and smell, you must self—isolate and order a test. if you show coronavirus symptoms, you should isolate immediately and contact the tree steam over the phone. —— trace team. if you test positive, the contact and trace team will identify people you have been close enough to pass on the virus to. those contacts will be categorised as either low or high—risk. contact tracers will get in touch with people who might be at risk. they will be ask to isolate for 14 days or get tested if they develop symptoms themselves.
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members of their household won't have two quarantine as they develop symptoms. you might remember an app that was being trialled on the isle of wight. that's not yet ready to be launched across england, so it's not part of government plans. the new system will be dependent on people following the rules around self—isolation. if you are contacted by nhs test and trace, instructing you to isolate, you must. it is your civic duty. so you avoid unknowingly spreading the virus and you help to break the chain of transmission. but some remain cautious about how well the new system will cope. we absolutely need rapid test turnaround. the international standard is you should get test results back within 24—hours. there are far too many places in terms of our trusts but also care homes who are saying they can't get results back any quicker than, for example, an average of 3—5 days. later today, scotland's first
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minister nicola sturgeon is set to announce plans for an easing in lockdown measures. the first minister's already announced plans for a scottish 'test and protect‘ system. northern ireland has already launched its tracing system and wales is set to follow next week. it comes as a further 412 people died with coronavirus yesterday, taking the total number of deaths to 37,460. 117,013 tests were done yesterday, with 2,013 people testing positive. those people living in england will be the first to be contacted today as the new system launches. the government hopes these new measures will help to start the economic and social recovery from the virus. charlotte rose, bbc news. we can talk to our assistant political editor, norman smith, who is in westminster this morning. lovely to see you, lots to talk
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about. the government is very keen to talk about test and trace, but this is being presented as a thing that could really help with monitoring the virus in helping us tackle it. and this is huge. if it works, it could be our key to unlock the lockdown. but it is going to depend on all of us going along with it. for some of the us —— for some of us, it will be a huge ask. if we come into contact with covid—19, we may feel fine but be isolated for 14 days. do your civic duty, that will ra nkle days. do your civic duty, that will rankle in the dominic cummings saga. so far we have been remarkably willing to go with the lockdown restrictions at the start of this. people in government were a little bit uneasy, there was sort of an
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assumption we were a nation a bit sceptical of the government and the nanny state. we have gone along with it. yes, it is civic duty but there isafairamount it. yes, it is civic duty but there is a fair amount of self interest. the people you come into contact with the most often are frankly your nearest and dearest, yourfriends and family. therefore, you will want them to self—isolate, you will want them to self—isolate, you will want them to self—isolate, you will want them to be safe. i think there is a hope yes, the government is asking people to do their duty, but also people made for their own reasons then, actually, yes, i do want my nearest and dearest to self—isolate, evenif nearest and dearest to self—isolate, even if they are feeling absolutely fine. it is going to be interesting to see how that turns out. today we may be hearing about a change, a change in lifestyle under the new measures. we are going to move to the next stage of gradually, slowly, slowly easing the lockdown. boris johnson has flagged some of this up already. we know reception, year1 and year6 of
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already. we know reception, year1 and year 6 of primary schools are hopefully going back on monday, also going to open up markets makar sales rooms and then in the middle ofjune to open up some secondary school classes —— markets and car showrooms. but maybe hospitality. the hospitality sector, so bars and restau ra nts, the hospitality sector, so bars and restaurants, good open earlier than we thought because he is going to carry out a review of the two metre rule. maybe that could come down to one metre, so tables et cetera would only have to be one metre apart. ba rs only have to be one metre apart. bars and only have to be one metre apart. ba rs a nd restau ra nts only have to be one metre apart. bars and restaurants to say we can operate like that, that makes it much more viable for us, two metres it's difficult. there is the prospect, it is been asked to review distancing but if it comes down to one metre, then perhaps we can start going in bars and restaurants much sooner than we might have thought. norman, this one metre thing is really interesting. so sage is looking at that now. when will the
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government have the results of that enquiry? today? no, not today. boris johnson has that he wants sage to look at the distancing. i think we're the only country in europe which has two metres, others have 1.5 and metre, borisjohnson has asked sage, the top scientists to see if we could reduce distancing. that would make it a lot easier for the hospitality industry. sorry, so we go back to one metre, i had to labour it but this is important. will that change test and trace? because that was about being within two metres for 15 minutes or more. if you come in contact with anyone within one metre at the moment, then you have to ask them to self—isolate, even if you have only been close to them for a short time the people you come into close contact with, they will have to be contacted and self isolated, but
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more generally if you are in contact with someone for more than 15 minutes and they are two metres away, then they will have to self—isolate. so there are two brackets if you like, of people. if you have coronavirus and come into contact with them, they will also be expected to self—isolate for 14 days. norman, great to talk you. thank you for explaining all that. we are going to be talking to matt hancock at 7:30am. yes, you may have questions along a number of lines. it was interesting, norman was talking but a few of them there. it's about those questions about whether you are required to self—isolate, whether that is an instruction or a request. it is not yet going to be mandatory, that's what they made clearly in the press conference. not yet if there is no need. and about the questions and what they will become of the system we understand is getting under way at 9am this morning. in england, in england, but also scotland as well. more than 100,000 people have now died from covid—19 in the united states.
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it has seen more fatalities than any other country and its 1,6 million confirmed cases account for about 30% of the worldwide total. 0ur north america correspondent aleem maqbool has been speaking to some of the families who have lost loved ones. # happy birthday to you... friends and relatives of more than 100,000 people in america can nowjust cling to the memories of happier times before the coronavirus. my father was a really caring person. he just wanted to help people and he was really outgoing. he thought he was really funny. doug was one of the first confirmed deaths back on the first of march. as somebody who lost someone so close to them and was someone obviously very, very dear to you so early on, when you saw the way this was going in the country, how has it made you feel over the last couple months? it's scary.
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it's sad. i feel angry. we should have been listening to the doctors and the scientists. we should not have been listening to people talking about the stock market. it's natural that people are reaching for answers, for someone to be accountable after scenes like mass graves being dug in new york and refrigerated trucks lining up to receive the dead once the morgues were full. i'll see you saturday. we now know that african—americans, like rhoda hatch, are still dying in disproportionate numbers. i think 100,000 is an extraordinary number. it means that there's a lot of pain and grief. some of us in the black community are very concerned that as the narrative became that african—america ns were disproportionately impacted by the virus, that there was also a push to open up the country and made many of us think prematurely that suggested the devaluation of black lives.
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those calls to reopen go on, even as the number of dead continues to mount and as the nation mourns. well, flags have been lowered here after tragedies like mass shootings, and even then, it's been difficult to grapple with the scale of loss after sometimes dozens of people have been killed. but how then does america even began to count the emotional cost of such a staggering number of deaths? to really do justice to the stories of those lost would take many lifetimes. for people left behind, the question lingers, could more have been done so these americans and tens of thousands of others might still be around? aleem maqbool, bbc news, in washington. large protests are under way in america after the death of an unarmed black man in police custody. president trump says he's asked
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the fbi and the department ofjustice to investigate the incident. george floyd died in minneapolis. he'd been arrested and pinned down in the street, with an officer kneeling on his neck. four officers have been sacked, and george floyd's family have called for them to be charged with murder. hong kong is no longer autonomous from china — that's the conclusion of the united states with its secretary of state, mike pompeo, telling congress that it no longer merits special treatment under us law. there were more protests there overnight, all related to a controversial security law beijing is planning to impose on the territory. the comments from secretary pompeo could have major implications for multinational companies and foreign investors. bad weather has delayed the launch of the first privately funded mission to the international space station. the spacex falcon 9 rocket funded by tesla owner elon musk was halted
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17 minutes before take—off because of thunderstorms. the next available window for a new attempt is on saturday. something to look forward to on saturday. we will see how the weather window reopens. they sat for three hours waiting for a potential launch. then were told 17 minutes before, it wasn't going to happen. it is 7:14am. it's an event that's become part of our weekly routine — clapping every thursday night to show our appreciation for frontline workers. tonight marks the 10th week of clap for carers, and it could be the last after the organiser annemarie plas said she believes it's had its moment. she joins us now from her home in london. good morning to you, annemarie, many people are going to be surprised, you know, the person help get this going saying enough is enough. what is your thinking? i want to say that everybody who wants to continue to
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definitely continue. but for me personally, it is good to keep supporting and bring that movement into the next phase, which could be any old day. then next week we can still come out to see how everyone is doing, just to check in with one another, because that is what it has been really good for and i hope it's something we can continue. you make there, annemarie, you're saying if people want to carry on, they will do that if they feel right. what's your thinking about saying maybe the time has come where you won't feel quite right doing that now? what's your own personal thinking? quite right doing that now? what's your own personalthinking? of quite right doing that now? what's your own personal thinking? of the finishing right now? yes. because it's been quite overwhelming in the way that the nation has taken it on, and it has become in the public eye,
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and it has become in the public eye, and with that comes a lot of opinions and people ask for my opinions and people ask for my opinion in some ways on some issues as well. yes, the idea was to start something to show appreciation, which i still think is really important because we're still in crisis, but there's other ways can do that. also the way it brought us together, i hope that's something we can hold on and for me personally, to check in with my community at least once a week. are you worried that it has, over the weeks, become too little in some form? yeah, people ask for my opinion on some political matters, and this is not in anyway a political movement. i wa nt to in anyway a political movement. i want to save pure to what the intentions were of starting it. so, yeah, if that means we might have to adjust some things, then we have to do that. i imagine along the way, annemarie, you must have
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personally... we've spoken to many, many people, you know, carers, nurses, people in medicine and all those different areas who have said what it means to them to have seen as the weeks have grown everyone stepping out and taking a moment — a visible sign of a thank you. i dare say along the line you've had a few of those messages yourself, people you've come across who told you it's a great idea. yeah, yeah, and i hope that they know that we will stay supportive of them and that we're really proud to be part of a nation where we have such a thing as and be proud of the essential workers, because they are still out there and ican because they are still out there and i can still safely stay in, so i'm really thankful for them. annemarie, good to talk to you this morning, thanks very much. annemarie plas. so many will be saying this morning that i'm so glad annemarie said it in the first place. whatever
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the decision is now, it happened and it will be cherished. whether you continue it or not, those who did ta ke continue it or not, those who did take part would have felt something they probably hadn't felt in society and the community for quite a while, so it contributed in that way regardless. a fijian veteran who served in the british army has thanked the uk public for helping to pay £30,000 for emergency surgery to remove a brain tumour. taitusi ratu caucau was ineligible for free nhs treatment due to his immigration status. he's one of a number of com monwealth vetera ns who are now taking legal action against the government over their rights to remain in the uk, as our defence correspondent, jonathan beale, reports. growing up in fiji, taitusi ratu caucau had a dream to play rugby and tojoin the british caucau had a dream to play rugby and to join the british army. he fulfilled both, but now passing a by fulfilled both, but now passing a rugby ball is part of his therapy after major surgery to remove a
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brain tumour. medical treatment that's left him with a bill of nearly £30,000, which he can't afford. taitusi served in the british army for more than a decade with tours of iraq and afghanistan. when he left in 2011, he thought he'd be looked after by the country he served, and which his family's made home. but in hospital, he found out he wouldn't be treated like any other veteran and would have to pay the nhs as an overseas patient. right now, i feel betrayed because overseas patient. right now, ifeel betrayed because i gave my life to fight for this country, and this is what happened and return to me. i didn't expect to be like this. if i know the first time it's going to be like this, i would have never come here. with the kindness of friends and strangers, his hospital bill is now being paid. but he and other fijian veterans
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still face these charges to legally remain in the uk. for taitusi and his family, that would cost nearly £10,000. campaigners say the policy needs to change. if somebody can sacrifice their lives to serve for queen and country, i'm absolutely certain they deserve to be here. there's no doubt about that. commonwealth countries like fiji have long been a fertile recruiting ground for the forces, but lawyers now representing a group of fijians, including taitusi, argue many were not given clear guidance on their immigration status. they have no status, they can't access the nhs, they can't work, they have no settled status here at all. that feeds a real sense not only of uncertainty but injustice. 0fficials here at the ministry of defence and at the home office say they cannot comment on individual cases, but as to the immigration
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status of commonwealth recruits, a government spokesman insisted they and their families are all made aware of how they can settle in the uk and the costs involved in. taitusi's faith in britain has been partly restored by the generosity of the public, who helped pay his hospital bill. he now hopes the government will show the same generosity by waving the visa fees so he can legally remain in the country he served. jonathan beale, bbc news. good morning. we will hear about contact tracing schemes, which will be launched in england and scotland. the whole idea is it minimises infection rates. we're joined now by the shadow health secretary, jonathan ashworth. thank you for your time. test and trace, it being launched this morning in england and because of
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devolution, in various places in the uk at other times. what do you make of the outlines of the principles of what the government is wanting people to do? this is really important, and we've been saying for weeks we need a test, trace and isolate regime because that's the key to breaking the chains of transmission of this virus. those companies, countries that have been most successful with lower death rates, germany, south korea, invested early in this type of testing regime. we were doing it until mid—march and then we finished. we should have probably continued. anyway, this is an important moment today. and for it to work, we need to react with speed because we know the virus spreads with speed so i'm pushing the government to go further, let's make sure the tests are turned around within 24 hours because if someone has... if someone's tested and you need to get in touch with everyone they've been in contact with, you
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need to move really quickly so let's go those tests done in 24 hours. if you're asked to isolate, you need to have access to decent sick pay. some people will be in lower paid, insecure work and they need that reassurance. but everyone needs to co—operate, because it's in all our interests that this works and i've got to say it, and this is why matt hancock's support of dominic cummings is irresponsible because my worry is people should question why they should stay at home for two weeks on their own when they feel fine, but this guy, borisjohnson's big power in downing street, can get away with travelling across the country. i'm a bit worried that matt hancock in supporting that slightly undermined the messaging, because we all need to co—operate with the system because it's in the interests of all of us. let's talk more about the practicalities. you were talking about the speed of the testing procedure, which we all understand is absolutely crucial — the quicker you get to those who might be infected, the better — that's
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absolutely crucial. everyone wants them to be quicker, the government has said their goal is 24 hours for every test, do you understand why that's not happening and do you have any information about the problem? we've not up the capacity yet is what i suspect is the issue. for example, we are meant to be testing eve ryo ne example, we are meant to be testing everyone in ca re example, we are meant to be testing everyone in care homes, we are supposed to be but we're still not doing it so there there's clearly issues in the system. we need those ironed out and i think matt hancock is on the show soon, perhaps he could explain why we are not testing as many as we should be. the government have even as a target of 200,000 tests by the end of the month —— have set themselves. earlier it was 250,000. whatever the number, we need to scale up the testing because we need tests turned around in 24 hours. on a technicality, you mentioned there's a moment ago, and it's a very important point, if someone is asked to self—isolate because there's been a co nta ct
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to self—isolate because there's been a contact and they are self—employed person or indeed someone who has a job, what next? the financial realities are that someone might be relu cta nt to realities are that someone might be reluctant to step away from work to self—isolate because of a practical reality, what are you seeking in terms of financial assistance for anyone who does what's being called now civic duty? you hit the nail on the head, because those people asked to isolate, for self—employment, as you say, insecure work, zero hours contract, they need access to decent sick pay. there may be some as well because of certain circumstances that can't isolate at home. other countries like korea and tie one offered people hotel rooms, because we know lots of hotels are empty —— taiwan —— people. let's be clear, are you saying you need a special new scheme specific to test and trace? the government should come up with, on top of this, a new scheme specific to those
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people caught in this process? not necessarily a new scheme but we should look at the sick pay rules and whether sick pay needs to be enhanced. there's a weird anomaly in the system at the moment whereby the statutory sick pay, as i understand it, in the system, only gets triggered if someone tests positive, but you could be waiting days and days and days for your tester to come through and you're not at work, so we need to ironed out out and that's also why i said initially we need these tests in 24 hours. 0ne need these tests in 24 hours. one of the key elements of this, which is, if you like, a non— nonpolitical issue, is the need for people to be honest and to co—operate and to be part of this process. many will be asking the question that if you're one of those people that gets a phone call, e—mail or text saying you've been in contact with someone who's tested positive, your decision, given its not mandatory, becomes an issue of
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honesty — are you going to be honest about who you've been in contact with? are you going to be honest about whether you think you should stay in isolation? honesty becomes key in this, whether your tested in the first—place, and what information you hand over, or if you're one of those who's contacted in the second stage, because you could say, "i don't think i was in contact with anyone, thank you very much", and you carry on as you were. you're absolutely right, and this is why the whole cure over dominic cummings is potentially so damaging, and it's dangerously irresponsible of ministers like matt hancock to endorse him, because we need everybody to co—operate with this system and to isolate themselves for 14 days if asked to do so, even if they've got no symptoms! that's what you have to remember, people might not be ill but asked to stay home for two weeks and it's not like jury service, not like you do it and
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you're done, you do it for two weeks, come out for a couple of days and you could be asked to go back in for another two weeks. should it be mandatory? government is asking people to do it through a civic duty. do you think it should be mandatory? i think the government are right to try and encourage people to do it voluntarily, but if it doesn't work we might have to look at making it mandatory but with the dominic cummings thing, it's constantly undermining the government messaging on this and that's why they shouldn't stand by him, they should make an example of him. 0ne make an example of him. one last question, because this ends up one last question, because this ends up being personal, and it's not about recriminations or repercussions, this is about honesty. when you get the phone call and you asked, "who do you think you have been in contact with for a period of time? " it will require people to dig pretty deep and in lots of people's lives, it will be ha rd to lots of people's lives, it will be hard to work out if they have stuck all the time exactly and completely to the rules. it's quite a big
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personal question, isn't it? yellow it is but testing and tracing is the only way can safely ease out of this lockdown and we need to come out because we can't be in it forever until a vaccine is found. it has huge implications for society stop we are suppressing the virus but we are building up other health problems. people are going to be having to rack their brains to find out who they've been in touch with. we need to do this in order to escape the lockdown in the end. i hope people co—operate and it's why government should not be undermining their messages by standing by someone who has so flagrantly breached the rules and has not even said sorry! it is one rule for them and another for the rest of us! jonathan ashworth, thank you very
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much, the shadow health secretary. we are waiting to talk to matt hancock, the health secretary, in a few minutes but important stuff with the weather. it's been glorious, matt, hasn't it? some are hoping for a bit of rain but we are enjoying the sunshine. more to come stop the a calm and sunny start in northern ireland this morning. staying dry for the vast majority and more sunshine to come in the rest of the month. in the north of scotland, this area of cloud, bringing rain, clearskies further south and that cloud is moving north, so brightening up after a grey start in parts of northern scotland but staying grey in 0rchard and shetland throughout. low cloud in eastern counties of england will thin and break —— 0rkney and shetland throughout. for most, sunshine from dawn to dusk and warming up. 22 or 23 in mainland scotland. cool around the seas if
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you're dipping your toes in, and where you have the breeze off the sea, feeling cooler so western parts of northern ireland, western england and wales, warmer, 24 to 26. eastern areas, a bit cooler, that's because we've got a developing easterly breeze which tonight will start to bring in more in the way of mist and cloud to eastern counties. murky in shetland. most will be clear skies through the night with single figures for some, but around ten or 11 for the vast majority. as for tomorrow, doing it all again really. mist and low cloud through eastern counties and further north through tomorrow. brighter in shetland, but still with some cloud at times but for most, another sunny day but warmerfor northern for most, another sunny day but warmer for northern scotland, around 26 degrees. naga and charlie, back to you. good morning, this is breakfast with naga munchetty and charlie stayt.
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test and trace systems go live in england and scotland this morning, in an attempt to keep coronavirus outbreak contained. anyone who's been in close contact with someone who's tested positive will now be asked to self—isolate. let's have a look at how that might work in practice. if you so symptoms, you should book a test right away online on the phone. if you test positive, and nhs test and trace official will call, text or e—mail you to discuss who you have beenin e—mail you to discuss who you have been in contact with. this could include anyone you have been in contact with for two metres of for 15 minutes or anyone you have been closer than one metre to face—to—face. this could be collea g u es face—to—face. this could be colleagues or people you live with. the team will call these people and ask them to self—isolate for 14 days, even if they don't have symptoms. members of their own household do not have to quarantine
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u nless household do not have to quarantine unless they also develop symptoms. so, that is how it works. health secretary, matt hancock, joins us now from central london. thank you very much for your time, matt hancock, this morning. pleasure, thank you for having me on. thank you for such a clear explanation of the new policy. i'm glad you approve, because i thought if we deduct, then we can get into the nitty—gritty and any kind of polls you could fill in —— if we did that, we could fill in any holes. so, how many people are going to get on the phone and how many people will they be contacting? we have 25,000 contact razors —— tracers in the system who are ready to go, they have been trained over the last few weeks. 7500 of them are qualified clinicians than they are ready to go. the first thing that will happen this morning is the 2000 or so people who tested positive
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yesterday, will receive contact. they are the ones who we know have got the disease, so they are self—isolating at home stop they will then have that discussion with an nhs clinician about who they might have been in close contact with. exactly as you have described. let's pick up there. how does that conversation go? i'm calling you, you tested positive yesterday. hello, mr hanckel, i understand you've tested positive, we understand anyone you have been in association with within two metres by 15 minutes or more one metre face—to—face, we would like you to tell us who you have been in contact with. will you tell us? yes. and what if you say no? i think the vast majority of people will say yes because it is so important for all of us, because if we participate in the system when asked, then we will be able to more safely lift the lockdown measures and lift the
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aggregate national lockdown by having this targeted approach. there is going to be an element of trust, isn't there? and if we are honest, mr hancock we have seen it over the past few weeks with the good weather and measures easing, some measures may have been bent, shall we say? you are asking people to admit perhaps they have been some of these rules and that they haven't abided by this. and you are saying you think everyone will do that? yes, and of course that conversation, as with other conversations with nhs clinicians, you should be absolutely upfront. and where this works best is when the clinician and the person who has tested positive essentially work together to work out who you might have been in contact with. and because one of the very nasty features of this disease is that it transmits before you have symptoms, that conversation will be about what has happened over the past few days,
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including the before you became symptomatic. and the evidence from where we have trailed this, both public health england, who do this asa public health england, who do this as a matter of course for infectious disease outbreaks and did this at the start of this crisis, and then also on the isle of wight where we have been trailing this process over the last one for so —— last month or so, the overwhelming majority of people get stuck into that and realised if you have tested positive it is so important to let other people know who might have caught it for their sakes as well as for the sake of trying to break the transmission of the virus. so we are confident the vast majority of people will participate. some scientists have said this will prevent or reduce 5— 15% worth of infections. is that enough? i saw that paper. that paper is predicated on relatively slow turnaround times of tests, and this is an important
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other part of the system. of course we need to get that test result back as fast as possible. i want to clear something up stop that was depending on finding contacts within three days. that's right. and our goal is we have the turnaround of the test in 24 hours. we have now managed to get the system so 84% of test taking out a drive—through centre are turned around in 24 hours and the prime minister yesterday status the goal of having every test turned around within 24 hours. when you say turnaround, i will be picky, because i think we want to be absolutely clear, don't we, this morning since it is being launched. when you say turnaround, does that mean from the moment i call up on 119 and then in 24 hours i will have the test result, or when the test arrived on my doorstep and i go to the gp. of
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course the time that really matters is the time from the moment you have symptoms and call up, and this is another important issue, that everybody who has symptoms applies veritas to straightaway. and so from that moment, into the moment that we can get that positive result back, if that is what it is and get going on the contact tracing. —— that everybody who has symptoms calls up straightaway. so the time is measured from the swab until the test result, but of course we need to measure that an end process. —— end—to—end process, so i'm confident we can get the process completed faster than that academic study on the disease. but all of this is about doing the very best we can, not only my team and the people who are working in nhs test and trace,
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but all of us who are participating, those who test positive and those who are contacts and so get the communication from nhs test and trace that they need to self—isolate. if everybody does our best, then we will get that rate of transmission down and we will break the chain of transmission from the virus more often. so, you know, shortening the test time is an important part of it, so do is participating in the conversation we started off talking about, and so do is the isolation and people who are contacts. without isolation, some people may not be clear who they have been in contact with or not remember. what if i have been in contact remember. what if i have been in co nta ct for remember. what if i have been in contact for someone for only 12 minutes or something? is it always be overcautious or be a bit more relaxed? what be overcautious or be a bit more relaxed ? what is be overcautious or be a bit more relaxed? what is the tone of this?
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the tone will be very much like a conversation with your doctor. so, people who will do that interview to find the contact our clinicians —— contacts find the contact our clinicians —— co nta cts a re find the contact our clinicians —— contacts are clinicians, and they are trained to find the most likely thing ina are trained to find the most likely thing in a world of uncertainty. that is what doctors deal with all the time. uncertain symptoms, people not sure about the onset, when symptoms came on, there may say i'm not sure if i was in contact for ten minutes or 15 minutes that is the world in which doctors operate all of the time. essentially there will bea of the time. essentially there will be a clinicaljudgement with the best aim to find the people who you have been in contact with or 15 minutes at two minutes or ten minutes at two minutes or ten minutes closer than that. what if somebody i was in contact with tested positive and i said i haven't
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noticed anything, what happens then? we're doing this on a voluntary basis. we think the majority of people when instructed to self—isolate by the images will do so. ‘— self—isolate by the images will do so. —— by the nhs. we have the legal powers to make this mandatory if we need to, i would just rather not do that. what would you need to do that? what evidence would you need to see? obviously we're going to track very carefully the of people who do what they are instructed to do by the nhs. we are pretty clear from the research and test we have done that the majority of people will co—operate. done that the majority of people will co-operate. angela says, "i'm not comfortable passing on my contact details, if i have them, or anyone passing on mine." what would you say to that? i have a couple of others as well. in the same way you
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are contacted by the nhs now and ask about another symptom or disease, you would talk to them about it. there are very strict confidentiality rules that are in place under gdpr and the medical system has its own system of confidentiality as well. and in practice we have found only a tiny proportion of people have that sort of reaction. i don't think many people really want their phone number is handed out. all i can tell you is the lived experience in the pilots and in the past when this has been done by public of england, that isa been done by public of england, that is a very, very small proportion of people who react like that —— public health england. so if someone is named as a contact, do they have to isolate for 14 days? yes, they do, i have tested positive for antibodies since having it and i would still
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have two self—isolate, yes. the reason is we don't yet know someone who has had transmitted to others. claire asked, "how do we know who's going to pay our wages if we have to isolate every time we get a notification of being near an infected person. because effectively you could be told when we take two weeks off of isolation from work, lose money, be put on statutory sick pay, and two days later you can be told it again." so the onus is on employers and in the same way when you are instructed by the nhs, that is equivalent to being filled. we did put in place support much earlier in the crisis to deal with this challenge, it is a very significant problem. and the problem of people repeatedly getting called,
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one of the things that will come through with this nhs called system is the effect it will have on the workplace was that it will reduce the amount of contacts people have at work. if an employee test positive and they haven't been doing social distancing in the workplace, then suddenly a large proportion of then suddenly a large proportion of the workforce might have to go home and self—isolate. the solution to thatis and self—isolate. the solution to that is to follow the social distancing in the workplace guidelines that have been set out. this could happen to a worker travelling on the tube, it is in the employer or the employee's fault. then they have to live on £95 a week. we do have recourse there in the employment law, and we extended that earlier in the crisis. let me
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ask one more question. so that is in place, but yes i'm afraid that people may, if the repeatedly are in close contact with positive cases, then they repeatedly have two self—isolate. and there is a reason for that stop this whole being is about trying to break the chain of transmission in a way that is much more targeted at where the positive cases are. at the moment we estimate there are around 7— 9000 positive cases in the country we know who to thousands of those are —— 2000 people. you say hunt them down and this is urgent and you've used the phrase civic duty, you're asking the british public to follow these measures to the letter, that's been clear in this interview, do you understand how this sticks in the throat for so many who have seen a member of your team, a close member,
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choose to interpret the measures for his personal advantage? i'm talking about dominic cummings and the government insistence to stand by him, yet you're asking all of us to stick to the rules by the letter. iam andi letter. i am and i think the vast majority of people well, and the reason is it is so obvious, naga, about how important this is for getting through the virus. it's not doing this... people aren't doing this for the government, me, you or anybody else, they're doing it for their loved ones, for their community, for the people they are close to the ca rs the people they are close to the cars passing on this illness is not just about transmitting the virus. it's a very serious disease, as we've seen. the more people abide by these rules, the more they follow these rules, the more they follow the instructions from the nhs, the safer we will all be and the easier we will be able to live the broader lockdown measures and i'm thinking
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that sage motivation for people to do the right thing and i think the vast majority will. matt hancock, we've gone over time, but thank you very much, matt hancock, the health secretary. thank you for the various messages this morning, a lot of questions about what is a new system that's come into place this morning and mike has the sport right now. good morning, mike. good morning. an important step will be taken today on the timeline towards the starting the premier league again but brings with it a greater risk of transmission. from this morning players will be allowed to start contact training and this comes after four new positive tests for coronavirus at three different clubs. two two two 2 2 for the last week, training sessions have resembled this — something so different with social distancing enforced. now tackling and close contact will be permitted, although it'll be
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down to individual clubs to decide how best to implement it and keep players safe. the clubs, like, what they are trying to do, the maximum they can to help us. you know? to help us stay minimum, you know, maximum, yeah? maximum away from danger. so that's important for us. we feel safe. one of gomes's teammates at watford, troy deeney, has been one of the most vocal players in questioning the potential return of training and matches, saying he feared for his family's health. he's not been present at watford's training ground, with three people at the club having tested positive for the virus. however, it's understood he's likely to return to training next week. meanwhile, there are still plenty of details to be sorted, that's before we'll see matches again. more discussions will take place today including the possibility of using neutral venues, also what to do if the season cannot be finished and
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a potential start date too, most likely in the second half ofjune. professional tennis will return to the uk injuly with a series of tournaments staged behind closed doors for the top 16 players in britain. that means andy murray can play in them, but it's more likely he'll return before that in an exhibition tournament injune organised by his brother, jamie. we're expecting confirmation of that event in the next couple of days. now, many children might be struggling to have a normal routine during lockdown, those in football academies are no different. but rather than working on their keepie—uppies or cruyff turns, manchester united have sent a letter to their scholars encouraging them to take it easy and have a few sweets. marcus rashford tweeted his approval yesterday for the instructions that told the academy youngsters to enjoy the half—term by sleeping until lunch, have a games console marathon and spend time with the family as a reward for dealing with the lockdown.
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i'm all for rewards, and we all need our rewards, don't we? a few parents puss puss yes will be twitching and reaching for the volume before their little ones here that message —— a few pa re nts' little ones here that message —— a few parents' is. i always say the inappropriate thing when it comes to children. always! a friend of the children. always! a friend of the children sometimes. i don't mind! we can go straight to sean, news from easyjet and this is about cuts. what have they said? another airline this morning saying they are going to need to lay off a large number of staff so they can survive this crisis. easyjet saying of its 50,000 staff globally, about 30% will need to go —— 15,000 staff globally, about 30% will need to go ——15,000 staff. that's about 4500 jobs. they employ around 9000 in the uk but they haven't detailed
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how many roles in the uk may be affected. that consultation process with staff will start in the next few days. we've had reaction from the pilots union today saying staff at easyjet will be shocked at the scale of the announcement with news, good news a couple of days ago, a message from their boss saying no job losses. airlines and the airline industry are saying it will take until 2023 to get back to levels of passenger travel that we saw in 2019. easyjet say that's one of the reasons they need to make these cuts, to make sure they come out of the virus crisis more streamlined, but the unions say that's a temporary problem and there's no need for a knee—jerk reaction, as they're calling it. we expect to hear more from easyjet through the day as they answer these questions. we don't know the uk number yet but
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4500 jobs, 15,000 globally, expected to go at easyjet. on the other side of the equation — customers — and there's an ongoing argument about customers getting their money back? it plays into the same issue, doesn't it? customers who booked a flight doesn't it? customers who booked a flight and that flight was cancelled expecting to get their money back, and for many, that's not been the case. this time it's some research from the consumer group which? it heard from over 1,500 people who had accepted or applied for a refund after having a flight cancelled between mid—march and early may. look at those statistics. when you look at the percentage of customers who have managed to get their cash back at ryanair, it is a mere 5% so
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far. we have spoken to michael 0'leary a few times over the past few months, and i spoke to him a few weeks ago and asked him about this point of customers getting their money back and this is what he said at the time. every customer will get at the time. every customer will get a cash refund if they want but they will have to wait, it will take many weeks and months to process this backlog of refunds and there's no other way of doing it. within two or three months, get your cash back? certainly we will have... the march refunds will be done in a month or two, the april ones within two or three months, the may refunds may ta ke three months, the may refunds may take three to six months. we simply have a gigantic problem. it isa have a gigantic problem. it is a gigantic problem and that's why we're hearing easyjet talking aboutjob cuts, why we're hearing easyjet talking about job cuts, customers why we're hearing easyjet talking aboutjob cuts, customers wanting their money back and we'll have more for you in their money back and we'll have more foryou in an their money back and we'll have more for you in an hour.
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thank you very much, sean. see you later on. many of us will recognise the story of the jamaican bobsleigh team that defied all the odds from disney film cool runnings. but how does the real team train while in lockdown? well, two of them have discovered that a blue mini is the perfect replacement for the bobsleigh. we can speak to two of the jamaican bobsleigh team members now, good morning to you. how are you? good morning to you. how are you? good morning. we are very well, thank you. let me put it out there! how ought are you or do you mind being compared to the team in that fabulous film, cool runnings? we love being compared to cool runnings, it's a great film, a great story and it teaches a lot of people, no matter where you're from, keep working towards your goals and you can achieve them. taking the theme, you have chosen a mini to help you guys out. how on earth did
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this come about? normally in the gym we would have things we used to push to do resistance work —— use. when we we re to do resistance work —— use. when we were close with lockdown, we had to replicate the training in certain ways. my car is a bit too big for this, but my fiance's mini was the perfect size and so we went out pushing it. i have to do say, nimroy, where showing some of the images now and it looks a little bit comical —— we are. but this is training, you are using whatever you possibly can? definitely. regardless we have to stay on top of our game. when the season starts in october, we are early. too, can you do and explain other people? we are seeing you together now, but you are in lockdown together —— shanwayne. how
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did that come about? we had a contest in austria at the europa cup injanuary and contest in austria at the europa cup in january and after that the plan was to come back and train in the summer, so we were was to come back and train in the summer, so we were going to come back together and obviously the country went into lockdown. unfortunately he's not had the opportunity to go out and see england yet, but hopefully in the coming weeks when the country starts to get back to normal, we can get out to a bit of exploring. look at you smiling! i hope you do too. it's the winter olympics, 2022, once the aim? what are your chances looking like? that's our main goal but our milestone prior to that will be the world championships in lake placid in february, 2021. that's our main priority at the moment. 0ur in february, 2021. that's our main priority at the moment. our main, main goal is to get to beijing in 2022. we're just looking at some footage of you both, who goes in front of the bobsleigh and who goes
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behind? what are the biggest niggles when it doesn't go right? i'm the driver and when it doesn't go right? i'm the driverand nimroy is when it doesn't go right? i'm the driver and nimroy is the drive man. the biggest niggles are when we crash, and that's normally down to me! never good when you crash a bobsleigh, even i know that! we like the niggles in lockdown households, who has got a bad habit and what's become apparent over the last ten weeks or so? nimroy likes to sleep. why would that bother you? that's probably a good thing? because i am training! sleep is important, trust me! lovely to two smiling faces. keep going with the training and the
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mini pushing. thank you! people are adapting in different circumstances. a nice pairof adapting in different circumstances. a nice pair of blokes. their house must be so much fun. that's what it looks like — sleeping, eating and pushing a car! what more do you want? a bit of sunshine? matt, bringing sunshine before the sunshine arrives? thank you very much. probably more sunshine than in jamaica thank you very much. probably more sunshine than injamaica over the next few days and temperatures not too far behind, blue skies in the isle of wight, high uv levels in the south today and if you're after rain with the blue sky around, and it will be for the rest of may in many parts, not much wet weather at all and things are set to get, as i've hinted at, that bit warmer. some rain in the last 24 hours. the final ofand, rain in the last 24 hours. the final of and, from this cloud, the rain easing away, patchy rain and drizzle —— fine north of scotland. breaking up —— fine north of scotland. breaking up in northern scotland. rain in
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eastern england will break up and sunshine will follow. blue skies for many from dawn to dusk. where it isn't in the north of scotland, 11 to 14. cool around the coast any breeze of the sea will limit temperatures but 22 or 23 in the and west of scotland, and sheltered from an easterly breeze, 24 to 26 in western england and wales. because of the easterly breeze, east anglia and the south—east will be cooler today, high teens or low 20s, but the sunshine every bit as strong as yesterday. through the evening and overnight, more cloud in the fine north of scotland in 0rkney and shetland and we will see low cloud returning to eastern counties of england. temperatures dipping down to single figures for one or two, so a fresh night for some sleep and that's ahead of a warmer day for some on friday. low cloud in eastern counties of england to begin with and that will break up into fairweather cloud in northern england through the day. a lot of cloud in shetland but brighter
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moments possible and lot of sunshine in central and western areas. more breeze in the south and west. that will limit temperatures in east anglia and the south—east again but in sheltered western areas, 26, 27, maybe 26 in the fine north of scotland. ten to 12 degrees higher than we should be for this time of year. with high pressure still there into the weekend, it is these weather fronts at bay. for saturday, another day of blue skies and sunshine and another day of warmth with temperatures into the mid—20s in the west. that's how it's looking. the headlines are next. good morning. welcome to breakfast with naga munchetty and charlie stayt. 0ur headlines today: tracing systems to find people who come into close contact with those infected with coronavirus start in england and scotland this morning. ministers hope it will allow the nationwide lockdown to be replaced with localised restrictions. but scientists say it's
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not a magic bullet. if not a magic bullet. everybody does our best, then will if everybody does our best, then we will get that rate of transmission down and we will break the chain of transmission from the virus more often. in the us, more than 100,000 people have died from the virus in less than four months. easyjet to cut staff numbers by nearly a third. around 4500 jobs will go at the british airline, which employs the majority of its 15,000 staff here in the uk. a busy day on an off the training pitch, for premier league clubs. contact training, including tackling, is allowed again, whilst meetings will be held today, to discuss a potential date to restart matches. good morning. it's thursday the 28th of may. our top story. new coronavirus test and trace
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systems will go live in england in systems will go live in england one hour and later! scotland. in an attempt to keep infection outbreaks contained, anyone who's been in close contact with someone who has tested positive will now be contacted and asked to self—isolate. just in the last few minutes, the health secretary, matt hancock, told breakfast that the system will help to break down the chain of the virus. 0ur assistant political editor, norman smith, joins us. a significant day and a significant launch in other things coming apparent straightaway is the government is once again calling on the public to do something different from what they normally would have done and they are calling it a civic duty. it's a huge, huge ask because the government is notjust asking people who test positive with covid to self—isolate, it is asking people who may feel absolutely fine, ticket
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to boo, no problems but who have come into contact with someone who has coronavirus to self—isolate and to self—isolate for 14 days. so this really is an enormous ask but the hope is we will go along with it because we want to get out of this lockdown and this is viewed as the way we can begin to really lift the lockdown. it's interesting, it's a sort of light touch scheme to start with. we're not going to be false to do this, there won't be bobby is banging on the door, checking up on us and whether we have self isolated, we won't be fined, it will be softly softly. interestingly, it will be fronted by the nhs. i think thatis will be fronted by the nhs. i think that is crucial because the government is trying to pitch this almost as if it's your friendly family doctor asking if some health advice, rather than the big bad bureaucrat from the government telling you you have to stay at home. but at the end of the day, it is going to rely on all of us
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individually to comply with these new rules, which is why matt hancock was pretty open on breakfast this morning, it is going to be voluntary and up to each of us to do our civic duty. all of this is about doing the very best that we can, not only my team, the people who are working in nhs test and trace that all of us who are participating, those who test positive and those who are contacts and so get the communication from nhs test and trace that they need to self—isolate. if everybody does our best, then we will get that rate of transmission down and we will break the chain of transmission from the virus more often. so, as you said before, we are all on a learning curve here about what these measures will mean in practice. so, one of the questions people are asking is if they are one of the people who is contacted and they have already had
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coronavirus, been tested positive, will they be required to quarantine? i suspect they will because the science yet has not been able to establish whether you can get coronavirus again. we simply don't have that definitive scientific advice. so, you know, we're still getting the nuts and bolts of the details of the scheme but my impression is that the government will lean to more cautious end of the restrictions. a lot of this is still really having to be worked out on the move. so, you know, we now learn that that the app which other countries have relied on and has been essential because it enables you to track strangers. you may know who your work colleagues are, who yourfamily but who your work colleagues are, who your family but you probably don't know the person sitting across from you on the train as you are travelling into work. the only way you can trace them is with the app. that app now won't be rolled out until the middle of the month.
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interestingly, mr hancock told us it wasn't a tactical programme. the app is fine but they are not sure people are ready to go along with their because of concerns about privacy and data retention. we also learned that it and data retention. we also learned thatitis and data retention. we also learned that it is employers who will be picking up the tab here for people who have two self—isolate. maybe some of whom are absolutely fine, don't have coronavirus. nevertheless, it will be employers who have to pay them stuck pay and we also learned that you could repeatedly have to self—isolate. so you go into work on the train, you are sitting opposite someone who is infected, you are then contacted and have two self—isolate. you spend 14 daysin have two self—isolate. you spend 14 days in self—isolation, you go back into work. 0h, days in self—isolation, you go back into work. oh, no, you are on the train again and summon up you has covid do have to isolate again. so these are really big demands that mr hancock was pretty clear about that. the onus is on employers and when you are instructed to go home by the
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nhs that is equivalent to being off ill. we did put in place support much earlier in the crisis to deal with this challenge. it is a very significant problem. the one thing which i think ministers are hoping will kick in is that by and large, throughout this whole epidemic, we have been, actually, pretty well behaved and compliant and gone along with all the restrictions, even though at the start of this whole saga a lot of folk and government were thinking, this is never going to work because we are a nation that actually is a bit sceptical about big government and the nanny state. people won't wear it. actually, we have people have been much more cautious than ministers ever expected. norman, thank you very much. more than 100,000 people have now died from covid—19 in the united states.
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and its 1.6 million confirmed cases account for about 30 per cent of the worldwide total. 0ur north america correspondent aleem maqbool has been speaking to some of the families who have lost loved ones. # happy birthday to you...#. friends and relatives of more than 100,000 people in america can nowjust cling to the memories of happier times — before the coronavirus. my father was a really caring person and he just wanted to help people and he was really outgoing. he thought he was really funny. doug lambrecht was one of the first confirmed deaths, back on the 1st march. as somebody who lost someone so close, and who was obviously very, very dear to you, so early on, when you saw the way this was going in the country, how has it made you feel over the last couple of months? it's scary, it's sad. i feel angry. we should have been listening to the doctors and the scientists.
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we should not have been listening to people talking about the stock market. it's natural that people are reaching for answers, for someone to be accountable, after scenes like mass graves being dug in new york and refrigerated trucks lining up to receive the dead once the morgues were full. if the lord say so, i'll see you saturday. we now know that african—americans, like rhoda hatch, are still dying in disproportionate numbers. i think 100,000 is an extraordinary number. it means that there's a lot of pain and grief. but some of us in the black community are very concerned that as the narrative became that african—americans were disproportionately impacted by the virus, that there was also then a push to open up the country, that many of us think prematurely, that, again, suggested the evaluation of black lives.
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those calls to reopen go on, even as the number of dead continues to mount and as the nation mourns. well, flags have most recently been lowered here after tragedies like mass shootings, and even then, it's been difficult to grapple with the scale of loss after sometimes dozens of people have been killed. but how, then, does america even begin to count the emotional cost of such a staggering number of deaths? to really do justice to the stories of those lost would take many lifetimes. for people left behind, the question lingers — could more have been done so these americans and tens of thousands of others might still be around? aleem maqbool, bbc news, in washington. large protests are underway in america after the death of an unarmed black man in police custody. president trump says he's asked the fbi and the department ofjustice to investigate the incident. george floyd died in minneapolis —
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he'd been arrested and pinned down in the street, with an officer kneeling on his neck. four officers have been sacked, and george floyd's family have called for them to be charged with murder. hong kong is no longer autonomous from china — that is the conclusion of the united states with its secretary of state, mike pompeo, telling congress that it no longer merits special treatment under us law. there were more protests there overnight — all related to a controversial security law beijing is planning to impose on the territory. the comments from secretary pompeo could have major implications for multinational companies and foreign investors. bad weather has delayed the first launch to the space station. funded by tesla and owner elon musk was halted 17 minutes before take off because of thunderstorms there.
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until the next available window on saturday. i have some insight into the weather news, charlie. matt has been checking the charts or give us more detail about it but how long were they waiting, the astronauts? three hours sitting there in the position ready to go. that was my illustration of what it's like... you have a whole sofa to demonstrate the position. and 17 minutes before, they were told. we are hoping for saturday. you and i would love that, we are working saturday, we would love to see that! it may not happen, there may be more thunderstorms. matt will tell us more later on. it is now 8:12. let's go back to our main story this morning. a lot of interested in a story. we've been hearing, from today, anyone in england who's been in close contact with someone who tests positive for coronavirus will be told to self—isolate under the government's test and trace system. but how will it work in practice? if you show coronavirus symptoms,
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you should self—isolate straight away and book yourself a test either online or on the phone. if you test positive, an nhs test and trace official will call, text or email you to discuss who you've recently been in recent contact with. this will include anyone you've been within two metres of for more than 15 minutes or anyone you've been closer than 1 metre to, face—to—face. so, this could be people you live with, colleagues in the office, or friends you may have seen. the tracers will then call these people and ask them to self isolate for 14 days, even if they do not have symptoms. members of their own household do not have to quarantine, unless they also develop symptoms. similar measures come into force today in scotland, under their test and protect scheme. northern ireland already has its own version up and running and wales' system is due to start on monday. let's hear more on why this strategy is so important now, from professor devi shridhar
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from the university of edinburgh. a very good morning to you. it is an important day today in england and across the devolved nations at different points. the principles of this test and trace people will understand. in practice, what are the key issues to making sure it has an effect? the three key things they have to get done quickly as first the system needs to get up and running so test results get back to people within a day and other countries are getting this down to ours. the second, we need to have it being reliable and identifying who people have been in contact with, 60—80% of their contacts. and that that is we need widespread compliance, people putting aside their self—interest for the collective good and isolate. that is a very cystic and active analysis of those three key elements. you say some people are
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testing and giving results within hours. boris johnson's testing and giving results within hours. borisjohnson's aim is within 24 hours. what is the difference in terms of effectiveness between 24 hours a maybe three days, to get that test back? well, analysis has shown is a test result comes back longer than 48 hours, it's pretty much useless for what we need to do it which is break chains of transmission and make sure the person who is positive is not continuing exposing themselves to others and their contacts are not continuing to pass it onto others. this is the tricky thing with this virus, it's so infectious. com pletely virus, it's so infectious. completely unchecked it looks like one person transmits it to three others. you're trying to catch it early enough, which means ideally within 4—6 hours, maximum. within 24 hours before they pass it on to others. so that space of time is absolutely key as to whether it makes any difference. can i talk to you a bit about the compliance issue? the phrase that has been used by the government now is civic duty.
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you have a civic duty to comply, to give up the information and respond as you are told to come to self—isolate. what is the evidence from how this has been used elsewhere as to how people respond? i think what we've seen is two types of systems. there is one which is mandatory. south korea attempted a volu nta ry mandatory. south korea attempted a voluntary system that's quite quickly that all it took was one or two people to break go to a church gathering on a night club and then this would spiral out of control. they have now moved to a mandatory system. so there are fines if you break it and now even jail time. system. so there are fines if you break it and now evenjail time. on the other hand, germany has used a volu nta ry the other hand, germany has used a voluntary system but quite effectively because they have a strong social contract. what this means is there is a very high level of trust in the government. they think the government is fair, transparent, honest, it has their interests in mind so people are willing to buy into the social contract and has been working effectively there. in a very
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practical sense, one of the key elements is as and when people are contacted, they are forthright and honest about the level to which they have complied. clearly, if they have complied absolutely with everything they have been told to do, in theory it is just the people in their household. that is the easy bit. the difficult bit is them saying, do you know what, i was in the park and the next—door neighbours were there and the kids were there. it gets a little bit blurry around the edges there. so is the evidence from other places that they are on the side of caution, so if there is any doubt, you co nta ct caution, so if there is any doubt, you contact everyone? yes, definitely. ithink you contact everyone? yes, definitely. i think this also comes back to diagnostic capacity. ideally what you would immediately do is get all those contacts also tested and you get third order contacts tested. you basically create a large net and try to catch any —— catch anyone through this net and then you only require those to isolate who are carrying the virus. it's a very tricky system. the advice has been to self—isolate if
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you are symptomatic. this has been in place since march and we have seen compliance has been very difficult to adhere to and to try and rely just difficult to adhere to and to try and relyjust on fines or mandatory mechanisms, it's not like people are going to comply. they will comply if they think it's for the collective good. that is professor devi shridharfrom good. that is professor devi shridhar from edinburgh university. thank you for your insight. nhs providers, who represent hospitals and nhs trusts in england, say they welcome the introduction of the system, but think it still has a long way to go. let's talk now to the organisation's deputy ceo, saffron cordery. thank you very much for your time. what more needs to be done, a long way to go? yes, i think we do have a long way to go. 0bviously test and traces a welcome development but we have got some measures that we need to be putting in place to make sure things are really effective. your previous speaker touched on some of them. so, test turnaround time is
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absolutely critical. 0ur trusted leaders tell us that often when they are testing staff or patients, it can take between 3—5 days for those test results to come back, on average, rather than the 24 hours which is the kind of international gold standard. so we really need speedy turnaround, in terms of staff and patient testing and testing for the public. we also need to make sure that these local plans that are being put in place get up and running as quickly as possible. we think they are going to ta ke as possible. we think they are going to take some time. local government was only asked five days ago to put these measures in place and to prepare for it. so it's going to be a gradual development of that. it needs to happen as quickly as possible. they've been given some financial support for it but it is going to be a real challenge. i think that demonstrates that we are quite a long way behind other countries, in terms of how we have developed our testing capacity. the
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final thing we need to be able to do is to be able to test all staff in the nhs and in the care system as regularly as possible and all patients who come in for treatment. that is the only way that we can deliver a safe service and get the nhs back to something close to business as usual. so there's quite a lot still to do. this is a really welcomed development, test and trace but there is a lot to do. just picking up on the testing of all care workers and staff. we are still getting reports of care homes, for example, where staff haven't been tested. have you been given any indication of date or a timeline for when that will be rectified? we don't have that information yet. i think that is really, really difficult. we know that to test all staff across the nhs, that's not ca re staff across the nhs, that's not care home staff, that'sjust staff across the nhs, that's not care home staff, that's just across the nhs, we do need to be doing
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142,000 tests a day. so there is a huge number, when you think that the whole testing programme at the moment is kind of wobbling around the 100,000 a day point and that is including the community members of the general public. so, we are a long way off getting that testing capacity up. we don't know when it is going to be fully on so we can rely and use it effectively. and testing is as safe route out of lockdown. i think that is why we need to focus so heavily on it. there have been concerns about security of data, data protection, trust issues. how have you addressed that? well, worth remembering that this isn't the nhs's testing programme, this is a national testing programme. i think that what we've got here is a bit of the social contract that was talked about, in terms of how germany operates, which is there is a great deal of trust
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between the state and the public, in terms of doing things in the public interest. do you think that trust is there at the moment? i think properly seemed that trust a little shaken over the past few days, we think about... we've had the lockdown rules that everyone has been asked to follow and, you know, the credibility of those lockdown rules is absolutely critical for the nhs. i would say that the last few days has probably shaken that credibility a little bit. so, you know, i think there's probably a big conversation to be had with the public around the importance of this. they testing and tracing is about understanding who has got the virus. it's about where it is going, so that we can contain it, but it's also about understanding how this virus operates. that's why we have been saying all along, really comprehensive testing strategy is absolutely critical. and it's a good
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step in the right direction to have launched test and trace today but we have a really long way to go, because we are a long way behind other countries who are doing this well. saffron cordery, deputy ceo of nhs providers, thank you for your time. we are hearing a lot about the theory of test entries. it's all about the practicalities, though. we are talking about who makes the phone calls, how will people react, well they cooperate, give up the information? in sheffield there's been a trial scheme working independently for the last month. 0ne independently for the last month. one of those who has been taking pa rt one of those who has been taking part is doctorjones. very good morning to you, doctor. you had an independent trial. this is something you just launched yourselves. what did you find out when you picked up the phone and tried to ask people the phone and tried to ask people the questions that will now be asked as part of this scheme? thank you very much. the essence is about a month ago a group of us were
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dumbfounded that this really basic date of public health medicine wasn't being done and hadn't been done since the 12th of march. so we just thought, well, surely it would be helpful if we had a go. so in a week or so we had set up some protocols, we recruited half a dozen volunteers. amazing people who are not medical in any way. and these half—dozen volunteers, in three weeks, had identified nearly 60 contacts from around ten people who we re contacts from around ten people who were ill with covid—19. so, the very key issue here which you have an insight into, which is about people's nature, as to whether or not they will volunteer information about their contacts and their movements. what did you find when speaking to people? 0k, when speaking to people? ok, so the first thing we've found is that volunteers who are local,
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well motivated, have time and interest, can offer a really good service. firstly, in contact tracing and secondly, in supporting people. because by the people who are ill with the disease and their contacts are being given a difficult message. so they need support. volunteers do that fantastically well. but we found that of our 60 or so contacts, about a third it went really well. so we managed to follow these people up so we managed to follow these people upfor so we managed to follow these people up for the full 14 days. we found one person who was becoming ill and we managed to isolate that person and find their contacts. so this whole system does work. that leaves us with the two thirds, doctor. those two thirds who didn't cooperate, what happened to there? well, they did cooperate. these are real people... you have to get this clearly into your head. most people
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have their hearts in the right place. so almost everybody did cooperate, not everybody but the majority of people did. but these two thirds generally had problems with work. and around three quarters of the people who we didn't complete the 14 day follow up with work to neither the nhs or in care homes or in—home care, where you have people moving from one, usually elderly‘s person is home to another. these are the unwitting vectors of this disease. their hearts are in the place. we love them very much but they are, by definition, carrying they are, by definition, carrying the virus around. why wouldn't they tell you the information? they generally did, they generally tried but they generally had to discuss it with their employer. usually, they came back saying i discussed it at work and i have been advised not to
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ta ke work and i have been advised not to take part in this scheme. there are three things here: the first thing is at present, it will change from today, but for the last month, there has been no system of contact tracing, either in the nhs or in the ca re tracing, either in the nhs or in the care setting. the second thing is that there is no culture of social distancing within health care. so in a hospital canteen, for instance, i'm sure it varies, but there are many places where everybody mingles ina way many places where everybody mingles in a way that is not allowed outside of the hospital. the third thing is that particularly in social care, the starving and the money is tight and it's very, very difficult for people, both the manager and the individual, to self—isolate properly when they are not ill. so this requires government help. doctor jones, very interesting hearing what you learned in that independent trial carried out by volunteers.
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thank you very much. so, we have spoken to lots of people who have had varying views about track and trace. we can talk to our health editor hugh pym now. i think if you have heard much of what we we re if you have heard much of what we were talking about then, one of the issues very clearly that comes through is trust and relying on people in the uk to agree to take pa rt people in the uk to agree to take part in the scheme, to commit to ta ke part in the scheme, to commit to take part in the skin with honesty and trusting that everyone is going to be doing this. well, that's right. matt hancock, the health secretary, unveiling this yesterday, said it was everyone's civic duty. the point being made was there would be a minority of people who will be asked to do a lot, to self—isolate for two weeks for the greater good of everybody else, i suppose you could say, in terms of making it easier to ease restrictions. it is asking a lot. i think you could argue everyone broadly has gone along with lockdown restrictions in the last month or so
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ina way restrictions in the last month or so in a way that probably exceeded the government's expectations. but from nine o'clock today, people will be getting calls in england and scotla nd getting calls in england and scotland and they are going to be told or texted or e—mailed, you have beenin told or texted or e—mailed, you have been in contact with somebody, we can't tell you who, who is infected, you will need to self—isolate for two weeks. so that is quite a big change from where we have been before. it is indeed. one of the other issues, we were talking to a professor from global health at edinburgh university, this issue of how quickly the tests come back is absolutely crucial because if they don't come back fast, and that means definitely within 24 hours, the damage is done because that person is out in the community. yes, health officials in england have been saying that they have now got the response rate, the result coming back from the lab after someone has gone through a drive—through test centre, for
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example, coming back within 48 hours or so 84%. we are still hearing from people, i suppose it is the other 16%, who have been waiting in some cases up to a week. if you have had to wait that long, it really invalidates the whole process. there is still a bit of frustration out there and there are some questions over the home test kits which are sent out, how many are actually coming back. so a lot of the credibility of this will depend on delivering that the rapid testing and the rapid result, so they can feed into the system and as a result of that, the contact tracing can start and then all the information thatis start and then all the information that is in the system can help detect local outbreaks. this is the other key thing to see if there are local spikes and infections in different communities and if they see those, to move vigorously in there, boost the contract tracing and if necessary impose more local restrictions. it goes back to what i was mentioning earlier, trust. there are people who are self—employed, there are people who earn very much money, who won't be supported with a back
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up, a nest egg so to speak, if they have to isolate for 14 days. and there is a risk that you can be told to isolate for 14 days because you have come into contact with someone, go back to work for two days, trolled to isolate again for 14 days and you have statutory sick pay. —— told to isolate again to stop the public is being asked a lot, to do a lot and to sacrifice quite a fair bit potentially? yes, and in the workplace scenario, as you say, it could be that you've picked up the infection from somebody in your workplace and their new self—isolate for two weeks, you come back and it happens again. it is being stressed this needs to be 15 minutes or more with somebody at two metres or less or face—to—face meeting, with somebody at two metres or less orface—to—face meeting, notjust walking past somebody or bumping into somebody. but yes, it is asking a lot. the argument is everyone has done a lot up until now but it is
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just going to have to happen if this works. financial penalties have not been completely ruled out if people don't comply, though it's been made very clear that is a last resort. the hope is that people will go along with this and those who are asked to do it will do it because this test and trace and track system is very much the main thrust of trying to move further out of lockdown restrictions and deal with suppressing the virus until a vaccine and drugs or therapy comes along. hugh pym, always good to talk to you, thank you. always good to talk to you. matt, ta ke always good to talk to you. matt, take us away and talk about the weather. and you are thinking about a certain mission that may or may not happen on saturday, i am thinking. it all failed yesterday because of the weather, thunderstorms and the
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risk of lightening because the mission to be aborted on the next chances on saturday and it will be a close call and this is florida and after the sunny start you can see the shower is building up and there could be thunderstorms among that but the saving grace with yesterday where the winds were westerly, taking the shower clouds to cape canaveral, we have more of an easterly wind blowing so it might keep away and that is one to watch as we go into the weekend and we could certainly do with some of those downpours. it's been a record—breaking dry spring across some parts of the uk and another dry, sunny start in north yorkshire and for many it will stay dry through much of may with things warming up even further. we have had some rain in the last 24 hours particularly in the far north of scotla nd particularly in the far north of scotland and patchy rain and drizzle remains across the north and mainland but the cloud for much in the mainland is starting to break up and some low cloud across eastern counties of england which is breaking up as well, so we will see
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increasing sunshine and for many it is sunshine from dawn to dusk. still clouding the likes of 0rkney and shetland and temperatures around 11 degrees, mainland scotland 22 or 23 is to hide. these are the sea temperatures around the coast so the breeze of the sea will feel cool, to the west, northern ireland, 24, 25, 26 to the west of england and wales but south—east england and east anglia will see temperatures a bit lower than recent days but the sun every bit as strong and very high uv levels across the south. into the night, mr low cloud across the eastern counties and it's a bit murky in shetland, so fresh enough to throw the windows open tomorrow but things will warm up further away from eastern counties of england where we start misty and murky and then in shetland and still be onshore breeze limiting temperatures across east anglia and the south but in the west where you are sheltered from the wind we will see temperatures climb to around 26 up
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to 28 degrees and parts of northern scotla nd to 28 degrees and parts of northern scotland will be about ten or 12 degrees higher than it should be for the time of year and the sunshine continues into the weekend as well. back to you both. whether it's from our doorsteps or our front rooms, the nation has come together every thursday to applaud the front line workers tackling the coronavirus outbreak. tonight marks the tenth week of 'clap for carers' — and the woman who started it has suggested it should be the last. 0ur reporter tim muffet has been looking back at how a simple idea has impacted so many. applause the sounds of thursday nights at 8pm. neighbours... ..shoppers. .. ..hospital staff. 0n land... ..at sea... ..across the uk... ..and abroad. a simple idea that grew and grew.
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on this council estate in north london, the impact of the weekly clap for carers has been profound. it's brought the community together, even though i've lived here 17 years. i got to know people i never would have met. its basically brought love, which is the key thing to all of our lives. have there been neighbours you've seen because of the weekly clap that maybe you wouldn't have seen otherwise? definitely, windows open, curtains pulled back and people show themselves. you see an exuberance for being part of this big celebration. but after ten weeks, this estate is bringing its weekly nhs clap for carers to an end. tonight's will be the last. we'll be out again tonight, you know, cheering these people to the rafters but some people feel it's time to end on a high. the idea to end the weekly clap is shared by the person who started it. the reason why i will stop giving
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support to the weekly event is because i think it's good to end it while it still has such a positive impact. i hope that the legacy will be that it brought us together, and we'll always feel that gratitude and appreciation we have towards essential workers. some have said the weekly clap has also become too politicised. but not everyone wants it to end. some nhs staff say it still inspires them. really, really positive impact on us. it's made us feel really valued as well. i think a lot of people want it to carry on, i'd be happy to carry on for another period of time. it has to come to an end sometime, but let's hope it carries on — all the better. it's showing an appreciation for what we do here, it shows we've done a good job. exmouth town crier roger bourgein had just been released from hospital
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having survived covid—19 when he came to his doorstep for the first time. i was feeling too weak to clap, but i could ring my town crier bell very loudly. i was in my little hospital in exeterfor 11 days, i nearly died. it's only because of them that i'm alive. i was just saying thank you in my own way. and it has served its purpose, it's made a mark and its effect will be weaker if we carry on. tonight at 8pm, we'll gather again and clap for the tenth time, and for some, the last. tim muffett, bbc news. and it means so much, obviously for those that we clap for but it's made a difference in life in terms of coming together and a sense of community and feeling that sense of community. we're joined by nurses mark and amanda webb
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from their home in luton. good morning. my first question is, are you both well? yes. yes, good morning we are both well.” are you both well? yes. yes, good morning we are both well. i will say thank you first of all for what you are doing and thanks forjoining us on breakfast this morning. how does it feel when you have seen the clapping over the past nine thursdays with today being the tenth? it's been very, very emotional, especially at the very beginning. it has set in, sorry, sunkin beginning. it has set in, sorry, sunk in now and we are extremely grateful for the appreciation. but like you say, it's coming to a conclusion now and i think ten weeks is long enough, what do you think?” think so, yes. why do you think ten weeks is long enough? we hear of the great work that is being done by front line workers, so why is ten weeks enough? i think if it goes on
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for too long will lose its impact like people have said, and for us, we don't want it to lose its impact. we are appreciative of the effect of it but we don't want it to be going on so it but we don't want it to be going on so long that people start to get tired of it. i love the fact that you turn to amanda and said, what do you turn to amanda and said, what do you think? i'd like to know as well. are you very much of the same mind? i know you are both nurses, but you could have a different thought process , could have a different thought process, but have you come to the conclusion at the same time? yes, i think so. ijust conclusion at the same time? yes, i think so. i just think it's conclusion at the same time? yes, i think so. ijust think it's time conclusion at the same time? yes, i think so. i just think it's time for it to come to an actual end, end it ona high it to come to an actual end, end it on a high and move it onto doing something different. 0ur on a high and move it onto doing something different. our local community has talked about having barbecues and we're looking forward to doing that. socially distant. do you think, amanda, and at the end of the day people will do what they
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want, if they want to carry on, they will, but do you think there will be a kind of legacy from this that will carry on for a much longer period of time? yes, i think so. everyone together, its brought everyone together, its brought everyone together as a community and i think that will be the legacy, that it has made people not afraid to talk to their neighbours, people that they haven't talked to before. i think, you know, it has opened up the community to all sorts of things. it's interesting to say to do other things, so it's not that you want people to stop saying thank you or showing your appreciation, do you think people aren't going to gather as much so it will kind of dwindle out and lose impact? i think so. i think people will do what they want to do and some people may want to carry on and some won't and i don't
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think anything of either situation, ijust think for us, think anything of either situation, i just think for us, for our community, why not begin to plan to do other things now that lockdown is being eased a little bit. can i ask, mark, i don't quite know what your circumstances are, if you're in a house or flat or what been like week or week —— week on week? i guess you have had shiftwork. have you gone out every time and have people clapped to you directly? i've seen that, we have seen it ourselves, where you might have someone in your street who is a medical care of some kind and you may be look at them and you are literally telling them while you are literally telling them while you are literally telling them while you are clapping that that is important. is that how it has been where you are? yes, completely. there's only been one week when i was on a night shift and i wasn't able to go along and the rest of the time i've been out and after the first week where the bbc came it was only then that most of our community and the people in the street knew we
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we re nurses and the people in the street knew we were nurses and as a result of that every week they look at us and shouted at us, in a nice way and they thank us. which, to be honest, whilst it's almost a bit uncomfortable and embarrassing because at the end of the day we are doing ourjob and we chose to do this and we love doing it and that's the bottom line. we are just doing what we loved doing in the first place and to be appreciated in this way is slightly awkward and a bit uncomfortable because working for the nhs, we are not used to that.” really embrace your honesty in saying those things. you are allowed to say that, obviously, because it is you and your lives, but thank you. and now i feel a bit churlish in saying for thank you for all the work you do because you told me it's embarrassing, but there you go, we have done it and thank you for
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talking to us this morning and we will see how people respond and as mark and amanda said, it's a personal decision. no one is in charge of telling you what you can or cannot do. carry on or do something else instead. you can see, can't you, when they think they haven't done anything special. let's talk to mike, nearly quarter to nine. the theme of the day has been testing trace from england and scotla nd testing trace from england and scotland starting today on the whole idea is that people get an idea of where they are at and this is what it is so important with sport at the moment, knowing how safe they are and whether they can continue in any shape orform. and whether they can continue in any shape or form. absolutely. so far it seems the consensus is that players have felt more reassured by the testing of going on, twice a week it happens and over 1000 tests each
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time and so far there have been 12 positive tests around the various clu bs, positive tests around the various clubs, whether it be staff, backroom staff as well and the next test result should be on friday but until today the interesting thing is there has not been any tackling. the important step taken on the timeline towards starting the premier league again, but with a greater risk of transmission, is that from today players will be allowed to start tackling, contact training and this comes tackling, contact training and this co m es after tackling, contact training and this comes after the latest figures for new positive test for coronavirus at three different clubs but the last week training sessions have resemble something so different with social distancing enforced and now it will be more like the training of old with tackling and close contact permitted but it will be down to individual clubs to decide how best to implement it and keep the players safe. the clubs are trying to do the maximum that they can to help us, you know, to help us to stay maximum
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away from dangerous areas, so that's important for us so we feel safe. talking on this topic one of his team—mates, troy deeney has been one of the most vocal players in questioning the potential return of training, saying he feared for the health of his family so he hasn't been present so far at the training ground with three people having tested positive, however now it is understood that troy deeney says he is likely to return to training next week, he will go back next week. meanwhile, there are still plenty of details to be sorted, before we'll see matches again. more discussions will take place today including the possibility, of using neutral venues...also what to do, if the season cannot be finished, and a potential start date too, most likely in the second half ofjune.
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professional tennis will return to the uk injuly, with a series of tournaments staged behind closed doors for the top 16 players in britain. that means andy murray can play in them, but it's more likely he'll return, before that, in an, exhibition tournament injune — organised by his brotherjamie. we're expecting confirmation of that event, in the next couple of days. prince william, has been speaking to professional footballers, about their mental health battles, as part of a new documentary, following his work with the "heads up" initiative. in the programme he talks to players, about suicide in men. a lot of people don't know about suicide because they haven't come across it, they haven't seen it. it is one of the biggest killers of young men under 45. as pain and grief goes, and i have heard this from sadly too many families who have been bereaved by suicide, it is one of the rawest forms of grief because you're left with so many unanswered questions. could i have done more? should i have done more? why did they do it? i've heard — i'm very sad to hear
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both of you have had friends or loved ones who have taken their own life in the last couple of years, is that right? yep. my friend who took his life, like, he was very sociable, had lots of friends, and there was no letter, there was nothing. so, that's the biggest worry. you know, like, why? you know? it was kind of, like, out of the blue. he was coming around to family barbecues, parties, he was like life and soul, but was that a big bubble out front? like, we as footballers, where you don't want to speak. that must have been what forced him, what he was going through. suicide is, it's...it's scary and it's frightening and it's real. men seem to have a real issue of opening up and being able to talk about it. if we can have a major impact on lowering suicide rates, that's a success from this campaign. also in the programme the duke of cambridge reveals another way he
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ove rca m e cambridge reveals another way he overcame his anxiety with public speaking. i wondered if you suffered with anxiety because you have got people looking at you 20 47. certain days, especially with speeches, when i was growing up, you got anxiety about this having to go right and people are watching and you can see certain people, weirdly the thing that helped me and i didn't realise at the time was my mother had contact lenses in my eyesight was tailing off as i got older and i didn't wear contacts when i was working so when i gave speeches, i couldn't see anybody's face and it helped because it isjust a blur, the faces and because you cannot see anybody looking at you, and i can see the paper but not anyone in the room and it really helped with my anxiety. i've got to get this right, and you've got to project and get it all right and i didn't realise at the time but looking back, that is what helped because i couldn't see everybody's eyes and you didn't feel the weight of the room is watching you. an interesting tip. and that documentary,
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football, prince william, and our mental health, airs tonight, at 805pm, on bbc one. if you would like any support with the issues discussed in the documentary, you can head over to the bbc‘s action line for details of organisations who can offer help, there are lots of organisations that will offer help for you right now if you need it, so do visit that website. thank you, mike. easyjet is the latest big travel company to make big job cuts during the coronavirus crisis. you have taken a look at this and the airlines have made it clear that this is an industry that has been hit so hard by this pandemic. not a surprise, is it, when you see airlines like easyjet grounding their fleet in recent months and only now steadily saying when they wa nt to only now steadily saying when they want to be ramping up flights again and what easyjet is saying today is that it wants to cut nearly a third of its staff, up to 30% which would
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work out at about 4500 staff globally out of 15,000 in the workforce. here in the uk, it seems they employ around 9000 people but they employ around 9000 people but they have not given specifics on how manyjobs in the uk will be affected and they will start a consultation with staff over the coming days where they will learn more about that situation. the boss of easyjet emphasising today something we've heard from the airline industry a lot in recent weeks that he doesn't think they will get back to normal flying levels until three years time, so you take the last few months of 2019 they expect to fly a third of those flights this time round in this year, that's how much the industry is being hit, so big changes and the bosses at the top think now is the time to cut costs drastically. thank you, sean. although some restrictions may be
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lifting, hairdressers doors still remain firmly shut, and the prospect of no appointment for at least another month has driven many to take matters into their own hands. idid it i did it myself. what do you think, charlie? i thought it was a brave thing. actually, it was pure frustration of. the first thing i thought it was like somebody else's hand coming in. i hadjust thought it was like somebody else's hand coming in. i had just started on the sides because i was getting frustrated with the curly bits and then i went mad and i couldn't cope with it any more. what i will say is i haven't done a bad job so when the rules change, i'm happy to have a go at yours. mike has had his hair cut. what about that, mike? i am impressed because emily, my wife and i. impressed because emily, my wife and i, watch this online video and ordered this kit and they said, whatever you do, don't do it yourself and get someone to help you do it if you can. so tentative steps we re do it if you can. so tentative steps were taken in the garden because the earmuffs were getting bad above the
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earmuffs were getting bad above the ear because my hair tends to grow out rather than down and there was the distraction of a young dog jumping about but emily managed, i think, to pull it off. it's a good job. in real time, think, to pull it off. it's a good job. in realtime, how long did it take? i'd say about 15 or 20 minutes and we were very careful about the technique. we studied the video a couple of times and it showed with though, not pliers, the electrical clippers. we might as well have used the pliers. clippers, that's it. the technique is to do the sides and the back and flick out. blend in with the scissors at the top. the thing is, what this comes down to his trust. you had to trust emily to do that, to have a go at your hair and i trusted myself to do mine, so there is trust there, so if you have not yet had your hair cut, there is honestly some trust issues around. you and i bit the bullet. you have
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to weigh up the lesser of two evils, let their hair continue to grow or ta ke let their hair continue to grow or take the plunge and in my case it can't be as bad as it was getting. it was literally pushing out.” think it looks great. you look lovely. we were surprised. i think emily was surprised. a couple of weeks, and we'll be doing it again. 854 is the time now. as well as the latest updates on the pandemic, we've also tried to bring you the stories of those who have recovered from the virus. here is one of those stories. after eight weeks in hospital, 95—year—old violet sismey has been able to return home, but not before a royal send—off. for the first time staff at thejohnson community hospital in spalding decided to applaud, as violet was discharged. let's take a look. applause
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take care, violet. thank you so much. we can speak to violet now, along with jennie gittins from johnson community hospital, where violet was treated. talking to you on the phone this morning. good morning. how are you? iam morning. good morning. how are you? i am progressing slowly. but i'm glad to say that i'm getting a little stronger every day. how long have you been home and how is the recovery beam ? have you been home and how is the recovery beam? i've been home, i came home last thursday, which would bea came home last thursday, which would be a week a week today. so, violet, just a moment ago we showed you the
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n we just a moment ago we showed you the —— we showed people the image of you coming out of hospital and all of the staff applauding as you left. can you remember the conversation when they said, good news, violet, you are going home, and those moments as you left the hospital? what was that like? it was very, very nice after two months in hospital, i thought i'd never get back to my little bungalow. but i did. violet, two months in hospital. that sounds horrible. what was it like for you? the staff were very, very good. they were kindness itself to me and i cannot thank them enough for all they have done for me. because if it had not been for the staff cheering me up, i think i would have given up. you strike me, violet, although we haven't met, you strike me as a kind of person who
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doesn't really give up. am i right? well, i don't really. everybody says what a strong person i am for my age and,i what a strong person i am for my age and, i mean, i didn't want to give up and, i mean, i didn't want to give upfor my and, i mean, i didn't want to give up for my family. as i say, i cannot thank the hospital and the staff enough. every one of those staff we re enough. every one of those staff were very, enough. every one of those staff were very, very good and very, very kind. someone who will be pleased to hear you say that is jenny kind. someone who will be pleased to hear you say that isjenny gittins, the ward manager. hello, jenny. violet saying hello. violet pointed it out herself, at her age, 95, to recover from this, she it out herself, at her age, 95, to recoverfrom this, she is it out herself, at her age, 95, to recover from this, she is a woman that didn't give up. i saw you nodding when she said it. definitely. use of that generation of people who have been through troubled times before and we can do it again. she was a dream to look after. i was not directly doing her
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care, but talking to the staff who did look after her, comments like, positive, determined, amazing, lovely lady and just pleased she could get home where she wanted to be. is there anything you would like to say to violet directly, because she is listening and is on the phone, anything you are the staff would like to pass on? we just like to thank violet for her nice messages she has been giving us and everybody from the hostess is, the housekeepers, the trained nurses and health carers and also the therapy staff, they are really proud to have looked after you and get you home, so thank you so much. violet, how does it make use of ale? well, thank you so much. —— how does it make you feel? i just want to say thank you to all of the staff and they were also very kind, so thank you so much. it's been a joy speaking to
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you and your spirit shines through. i will get very tired. you have a rest, and we know you are still recovering and violet, lovely to talk to you this morning, and jenny, thank you. violet, 95 years old, a 95—year—old covid—19 survivor. we will be back with you tomorrow from 6am. have a good day. goodbye.
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