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good morning — it'sjune 1st. i'm victoria derbyshire, welcome to bbc news. here are the headlines... primary school restarts for up to two million more children in england today — but not everyone thinks the time is right — what decision have you made about your child? if it doesn't feel right, we will halt it, we can reverse it, we can be dynamic about the way we bring children back. millions of vulnerable people in england and wales who were advised to stay indoors will be able to leave their homes for the first time in ten weeks — if that's you, are you venturing out today? new rules on social gatherings come into force across the uk — in england, six people from different households can meet up. fires near the white house — as protests against the killing of george floyd, an unarmed black man in police custody, continue across the us.
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and thousands of people in the uk took to the streets yesterday in solidarity with the us protests. we'll hear the thoughts of choreographer ashley banjo and sayne holmes lewis, a youth worker. good morning. more than two million primary school children in england will be able to return to lessons this morning — and there's also an easing of restrictions around businesses that can open and how we can meet up with friends and family. some scientists warn that lockdown measures are being lifted too fast. but the business secretary alok sharma said that the government was taking a very cautious approach.
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from today, all four uk nations will have guidelines in place allowing more than two people to meet outside. vulnerable people in england and wales, who have been advised to stay home since the lockdown began, will also be able to go outdoors again. shielding advice in northern ireland and scotland hasn't changed. the first phase in the reopening of schools has begun in england, with children in nurseries, reception, and years one and six allowed to return. and provided they meet safety guidelines, open air markets and car showrooms in england can also start to trade again. it comes as another 113 deaths were recorded in latest 2a hour period — which brings the total number who've died with coronavirus to 38,489. our first report is from danjohnson, who's been to meet some families preparing for their first day back at school in ten weeks.
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so you've got your uniform already, jack? yes. time to getjack back to school again. ready! how do you feel about going back to school, jack? very, very, very, very happy. i've never known my boy to be so excited. but he has always loved school. he misses his friends and he loves his teacher. so he's really excited to go back, yeah. i'm a bit excited... five—year—old khadija is almost as enthusiastic. i do like maths and i am quite excited about maths. i'm in two minds, but i think it's good for the children to interact more with their age group and also, they miss their teachers. they will find the playground's been fenced off to keep them apart. we'll start with three classes of five children in each and then slowly increase that. each of the year1 classrooms will have their own outdoor learning area. to create this sense of a bubble.
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it feels a bit like you're penning them in? ever so slightly, but i think it's more about keeping them safe. and the classrooms have been spaced in the hope of socially distant learning. their classrooms have changed quite a lot. we are going down from 30 children to five at first, then ten. a lot of children don't understand what a metre is, so telling them to be two metres apart is quite difficult. and it is normalfor them to come up and show you something in their book that they need help with. as social distancing will be difficult in that way. it'll be strange for them. that is why many parents don't share the confidence on show here. they wouldn't let us come back, surely, if it wasn't safe to do so, so i'm confident this is the right time for them to come back. if it wasn't safe, it wouldn't be happening, but i'm happy that the school will be doing things the best way they can. so, if they've put certain things in place, i'm happy for it to go ahead. but this is only happening in england and lots of schools won't go ahead. at least, not yet. we think it's currently unsafe. we don't think we should be going to this step. we want to see test, track,
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trace actually running, actually in place so we can see the number of cases are falling. we are also concerned that there isn't good enough advice about vulnerable parents, vulnerable grandparents or about vulnerable staff. but vulnerability can be defined by wealth as much as health. this is a poor part of london where many families have relied on school support during the lockdown. we're not talking about bringing 700 children back, we're taking it slow and steady and at any point with that plan, if it doesn't feel right, we will halt it, we can reverse it. we can be dynamic about the way we bring children back. and it isn't just a school rules changing. in england, you can now meet groups of up to six, the same as northern ireland. there is already eight in scotland, but i'm just two households. wales is expected to make this same move today. those who've been shielding across england and wales because of health conditions are now allowed out. social distancing is key,
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and what difference these changes make to the spread of the virus will be closely monitored. dan johnson, bbc news. let's look in more detail at how the rules vary across the uk: in england, groups of up to six people from different households can now meet outside. professional sport resumes today, with horseracing and snooker. people who had previously been asked to shield at home will also be able to go outdoors. in wales, people from two households are now allowed to meet outdoors. shielding advice has also changed, allowing more vulnerable people outdoors for exercise. in scotland, groups of up to eight people from two households have been able to meet outdoors since friday. advice for schools, shops and people shielding at home hasn't changed. and in northern ireland, there's no change to the rule that groups of six can meet outdoors. vulnerable people are being asked to keep following existing shielding advice. let's talk to our assistant political editor norman smith.
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just asking people, parents, if they are sending their kids back today, if they've got toddlers, reception, year one, year six, some real agonising over non—. i've had nearly 2000 responses from mums and dads really having to think very carefully about the decision they make. i think the truth is we are going to see a really patchy and mixed response. some parents obviously deeply uneasy but i think what ministers are hoping is if you look at what happened in other countries when they opened schools, the first few days, a lot of parents did keep their children back but gradually, as children went about their daily school life and there wasn't an upsurge in infections and they seemed to be thriving, that tended to sort of build confidence and slowly, slowly, more parents send their children back and you sort of got a snowball effect, gradually the numbers in schools increased. that was the experience
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certainly in denmark, i know. i mean, allied to that has to be, i would think, a desire to try and make sure that test and trace is fully bedded in because they've been all sorts of stories about a rather scratchy start, we haven't got the app up scratchy start, we haven't got the app up and running yet. also, the speed at which testing is done, obviously if you're going to have an effective test and trace system you've got to get the test results back quickly. we are trying to move toa back quickly. we are trying to move to a 24—hour getting results back in 24 to a 24—hour getting results back in 2a hours but we are not there yet so there's still a way to go. but i think the hope is that gradually, pa rents think the hope is that gradually, parents will get, you know, more confident and that will lead to more schools being able to open and certainly, listening to alok sharma, the business secretary this morning, he was saying it was very, very sensitive moment and they had to be cautious. at this was his response when he was asked if they were moving too quickly, too soon?
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what i would say is that this is not a dash. these are very cautious steps that we are taking, they are phased and as you said yourself, this morning, we've got primary school children in certain settings going back. we are reopening in a very cautious way outdoor markets. we are reopening car showrooms and we've also set out in terms of other retail outlets which have been required to be closed, they will not be opened until the 15th of june. so it's right and proper that we do this in a cautious way. in terms of scientific advice, i mean, this is an issue that's come up over the last few days and we've heard professor chief medical officers in the nhs, who has made the point that of course, scientific advice does differ but i think the key point is that what is the overall view from sage, the overall view from sage which of course is a scientific advisory group on emergencies which advises the government which advises the government on which some
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of the individuals you are referring to sit, the overall view is that we must do this cautiously, that is precisely what we are doing. and what they've also said is that if people comply with the rules and the test and trace system is up and running which it has been since thursday, then there is a good likelihood that we will not reach the r value factor above one. the other interesting thing is the language we are hearing from ministers, there is no attempt to hector a strong arm teachers or pa rents hector a strong arm teachers or parents into going back to school. instead, the argument, the weight ministers are pitching this is about the welfare of the children come in other words, the damage done to children who have already been out of school for nine weeks or so, and particularly children from more disadvantaged backgrounds, where anecdotally, the evidence is they have not received the same sort of punctuation and support that perhaps children of more middle—class families have and are therefore, all the progress that has been made in recent yea rs the progress that has been made in recent years in trying to close the attainment gap between better off
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and less well off children, risks reopening again. so they are trying to make this an argument more about what's in the best interests of children, rather than any in any sense trying to crank up the pressure on parents or teachers. thank you very much, norman. thank you for all your many messages, let me know what decision you have made regarding your own child if you are in england. 0ne viewer says 23 of the 30 in my daughter's class going back. another says neither of my children are going back, none of the year one parents in our school have opted to send their kids back today. i have so many of these. i will read some more throughout the morning. we will feed your thoughts into the conversation but let me know what decision you have made. police cars have been set on fire and shops have been looted in a sixth night of unrest across the united states. cu rfews are in force in nearly a0 cities, including the capital washington, as protests continue over the death of a black man in police custody. 0ur north america correspondent, david willis reports.
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shouting. this country is walking a fine and dangerous line. as a large and angry crowd gathered outside the white house, it emerged at one point at the height of the protests here on friday, president trump was ushered into an underground bunker by members of the secret service in the interests of his own safety. don't shoot, don't shoot! on several occasions in the last few days, demonstrators here have attempted to scale the walls. move back! and many were reluctant to conform with a newly imposed overnight curfew. as the president hunkered down, his presumptive democratic presidential opponent tweeted
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a picture of himself at the scene of one of last night's protests. joe biden promised to listen to the demonstrators and help shape the movement for reform. many protests have been peaceful and in minneapolis, where all this began a week ago, there was a moment when protesters and a national guard officer came together. shaking the hand. thank you. coronavirus elbow! nonetheless, george floyd's arrest on a minneapolis street corner and his frantic pleas for help have given rise to one of the most turbulent periods in recent american history. the white police officer pictured holding his knee to mr floyd's neck is due to appear in court later today. derek chauvin is facing charges of murder and manslaughter, but three other officers involved in mr floyd's arrest are still at large and there are growing
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calls for them to be brought to justice as well. donald trump has described these riots as domestic terrorism and blamed them on far—left anarchist groups, but there are those who believe at a potentially pivotal moment in the struggle for racial justice here that without violence, their voices will not be heard. the president has called on state officials to deploy the national guard in cities where the violence has grown increasingly out of hand, but such is the extent of the crisis, he is facing growing calls to address the nation from the oval office. 0ur correspondent aleem maqbool is in washington for us right now tell us more about what's been going on. it's now about a quarter past fourin on. it's now about a quarter past four in the morning, isn't it? yes, i've just four in the morning, isn't it? yes, i'vejust got back four in the morning, isn't it? yes, i've just got back from an extremely chaotic night on the streets in the american capital, six days of protests in minneapolis, george
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floyd died there. we've seen the horrific video. here in washington it's the third night, certainly, the most chaotic of all. there have been pitched battles between security forces and protesters all night and after hours, it is finally starting to dissipate. nowjustice, no peace. these were protests against the killing of george floyd. but given the location, it was also a message to one person in particular. he needs to grow up, be a man, stop with the childish acts, the childish tweets, he needs to be a man. as night fell, the mood got angrier. i am here outside the white house, for the most part a peaceful protest but fires had been lit now. and the police keep firing gas into the crowds.
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and they fired other projectiles as well. and they were clearly on edge. it did little to dispel the impression police use unnecessary levels of force. at one point, charging our own cameraman. here we go. we got every right to burn it down. this is pain, right to burn it down. this is pain, right here, this is pain, this is the only way we can get it to them. they are not hearing us. it'sjust words to them. they don't feel anything. and so for the president giving very little to those protesters to make them feel he is listening to them. his own supporters want him to come down harder on the protesters, that appears to be the sentiment that is winning the day at the moment. because there was no sense that the security forces on the streets today
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we re security forces on the streets today were trying to de—escalate the situation. it was extremely confrontational approach. and given what this was all sparked by, and excessive use of force, that killed a man in minneapolis, a lot of people wondering how wise it is that the police keep on behaving this way towards the media and towards protesters across the country. thank you very much. thousands of people gathered in manchester, cardiff and london in solidarity with demonstrators in the united states. protestors walked to the american embassy in london — and crowded together despite social distancing restrictions. they chanted "black lives matter" in reference to the civil rights campaign group. five people were arrested. and just after half past nine this morning we'll be looking at how black people in britain have responded to the death of george floyd, and to the outrage and protests which have erupted across the united states.
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the headlines on bbc news... lessons start again for some primary school children in england as the government begins to ease lockdown restrictions millions of vulnerable people in england and wales who were advised to stay indoors will be able to leave their homes for the first time in ten weeks there have been fires near the white house as protests against the killing of an unarmed black man in police custody, continue across the us. the big question then for parents in england — are you sending your toddlers, reception, year i and year 6 children back to nursery and school today? mums and dads have clearly thought very hard about this,
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and there has been a fair amount of agonising for some. thank you for your many messages over the last 2a hours. 0ne viewer says he i'm sending them back, i have to work i'm a single parent and i have no choice. another reviewer says hello, my six—year—old daughter andi says hello, my six—year—old daughter and i have sickle cell trait so we are classed as vulnerable. i'm just thankful i have my my daughter and one—year—old son can play in it. another bureau says i'm endlessly arguing with my husband about whether or not to send out your six—pack in, he thinks we should, i think we shouldn't. let me know what decision you did make. —— six—year—old. 0ne viewer says i was apprehensive about sending my daughter back, she was anxious to see her friends. we daughter back, she was anxious to see herfriends. we had an e—mail saying the school did not have room
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for year six pupils, thankfully. and another bureau says my son is returning, year six, three hours a day, he's been on about returning and i'm starting to feel anxious about it, i'm also returning to work ina about it, i'm also returning to work in a school but i know the schools will keep them safe, as safe as they can. it is however are of the unknown. thank you for those. reflecting some of your thoughts, there was so many of them. let's talk again to the headteacher of kempsey primary school in worcester who the last time we spoke, when the government first announced schools would be opening up to more pupils from june ist, told us she was ‘panic stricken'. also mum of five, lucille whiting in suffolk who's not sending her six—year—old daughter freya back today. and dad of two ben anderson who is sending his five—year—old son arlo back today. hello, good morning to all of you. thank you so much for talking to us. are you reopening to reception, year one and year six children today? we
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are reopening on wednesday. we have two days of getting staff back in, some staff haven't been in for eight or nine weeks. going through the new procedures. looking at what we are doing for a start and end times of the day, generally just familiarising everyone with the new world that is primary school now. familiarising everyone with the new world that is primary school nowm was really struck the last time we spoke when you said you were a little panic stricken about the things you would have to put in place before these kids can come back. how are you feeling now? cameron, i will say i haven't had much sleep lately. —— much calmer. but i feel we have undertaken an extensive risk assessment that's taken days extensive risk assessment that's ta ken days and extensive risk assessment that's taken days and days and days and looked at every aspect of what we can do. i feel bad when the children
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are in school we will do the very best that we can for them. but it is still such an unknown. —— ifeel that when the children. the whole process of social distancing in a primary school is still quite a novel concept. will your children be safe ? novel concept. will your children be safe? yes, they will. yes. we will do everything within our power to make sure that the children who come into school are safe. let me bring in lucille. good morning. why aren't you sending your child back today? we already have had coronavirus, we came down with it, we started feeling unwell on the 24th of april. and we've all actually been very u nwell and we've all actually been very unwell with it for about six weeks now. when i say all of you, that's you, your husband underfive children, you've all had 19 symptoms? yes. i ended up in hospital. i was sick so much i got
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dehydrated and had to go in for fluids. and then i ended up taking anti—sickness medication for about three weeks, still taking it on and off when i have bad days. two of the children were very, very ill. and i think at the moment school is wonderful, absolutely wonderful, teachers, i think the of them. but we've had a terrible fright, we are still experiencing postviral symptoms and i think it's more important at the moment to be together, particularly if i'm still going to be home—schooling three children. and i can only send one back in. you're not ready yet. when will you be ready, do you think?|j think will you be ready, do you think?” think we're going to monitor situation very carefully over the next fortnight, the next month. because of next fortnight, the next month. because of course next fortnight, the next month. because of course i want the children to go back in, it would be lovely for them to see their friends and obviously, the teachers are
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sending home lots of work, we are doing it every day, the home—schooling aspect has been really, really good but we can home—school them here and i work from home. sol home—school them here and i work from home. so i can work around them. we are just going to monitor them. we are just going to monitor the situation over at the next month, see if the r rate goes up and make a decision at the end ofjune. that's really interesting, you will know gavin williamson, the education secretary says throughout the pandemic art decisions have been based on the best scientific and medical advice with the welfare of children and staff at the heart of considerations. the prime minister ‘s announced the five tests have been met and based on all the evidence we will move forward with her plan for a phased and cautious return of a limited number of pupils to primary schools. does that reassure you? not particularly. i think you've got to wait to see what happens when the world reopens. to
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see, there might be a seasonal element to this, it might be like the cold and flu, it might start dying out over the summer months. but at the moment my children are still experiencing symptoms, i'm still experiencing symptoms, i'm still experiencing symptoms, i'm still experiencing symptoms. i wouldn't potentially want to send my child in thinking we might still be infected, we might give that to other children, their grown—ups. and at the moment, it feels a lot safer for her to be at home. understood. let me bring ben in, good morning. why are you sending your five—year—old son back today? why are you sending your five-year-old son back today? we felt really comfortable with all the information we were given from the school, we felt the school has gone above and beyond throughout this whole period of lockdown and putting steps in place to be able to make sure the return was a safe and comfortable as it is. it's very reassuring to hear parents like
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lucille saying if they've got symptoms they are keeping their children away because that was obviously a big concern for us. is everybody going to be fit and healthy that's going on? we just thought from what we know of the virus and everything we've heard about it, people who were asymptomatic would be staying away and those who were feeling fine and ready to get back into normal society will be doing that. we were just massively reassured by the school throughout the whole of last week, being sent pictures and updates of the areas they are putting in place, social distancing measures that will be there. we just felt very comfortable about sending our son felt very comfortable about sending ourson in. felt very comfortable about sending our son in. and how did he feel? he was very excited about going on, we we re was very excited about going on, we were concerned about that, for him it's the excitement, the social side of things, that was really important side of things for him. did you drop him off? yes. what was it like at
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the gates was everybody managing to social distance? they were. the school had a phased return, the three year groups going back in today, there were 15 minute increments between the groups. yes, the drop off points were very clearly marked. you were able to do that and it made, notoriously, you know what school gates are like, there's parents huddling around, having a chat after the kids have been dropped off, there was none of that this morning. very warm welcome from the teachers. lots of kids carrying lots of stuff, back after a few weeks but yes, the social distancing measures were in place. but the thing we were very cautious about and we spoke to the teacher very openly about this, arlo is five, in into your group with five and six—year—olds. you know, we know what those children are like, we we re what those children are like, we were concerned that maybe anyone
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getting a little bit too close, with the teachers pounce on them and tell them they cannot do that in the teachers reassured us, they would monitor that situation. they are not going to have everyone climbing over each other but given their age, they would just work within those boundaries. i can see the head teacher nodding as you were describing that. 0bviously you've talked about that with your staff and you will over the next 48 hours before reopening on wednesday. what will you do if a couple of five—year—olds start hugging or a five—year—olds start hugging or a five—year—old falls over and needs a hug? the second scenario is one i've been asked by parents and i've said very clearly, if a child falls over and needs a hug, they will have one. at the end of the day, we are here to reassure children, to look after them and to love them. i'm not going to step back and say to a child who is crying in the playground, i cannot pick you up. realistically,
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five and four—year—olds will hug and hold hands and do things like that, we cannot change that. but what we can say is explain to them and if we see them rushing to hug each other, we can gently say, or maybe divert their attention, we are also looking at lots of hand washing and doing things like that. but the reality is ina primary things like that. but the reality is in a primary school, particularly with the little ones, they don't understand social distancing and i've been very clear with my parents about that. i mean, judging from the groups of young teenagers, i should say at the weekend, young teenagers older teenagers and some adults don't understand social distancing either! thank you all so much for coming in the programme and good luck to you all, we really appreciate talking to you this morning. good luck and thank you. thank you for all your many messages. really appreciate those.
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0ne viewer, rachel, says i wonder if you're discussing the return of children to school where their children to school where their children with special educational needs could be included as of my son is in yearten, needs could be included as of my son is in year ten, attending a special educational needs school and he travels to and from school in a taxi with a driver with three piers for anything up to two hours depending on traffic. no one seems to have considered this kind of scenario. and another viewer reckons you are four times more likely to be hit by lightning than get this virus if you are under 14. only three out of 55 scientists are saying it's too risky but it's ok for you to wander around supermarkets with your toddlers where they will be exposed to more people than being at school. another viewer, key worker says my daughter could have been at school during lockdown but i kept at home, she will be going back until i feel she is safe. and julie says to be fair i ama is safe. and julie says to be fair i am a key worker, the kids have had loads of fun at covid i9 am a key worker, the kids have had loads of fun at covid 19 school,
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lots more sports activities and yoga aren't just lots more sports activities and yoga aren'tjust doing artwork or whatever. they are all on separate ta bles whatever. they are all on separate tables and because of small class sizes they get more individual attention than usual. thank you for all of those. keep them coming in. wright commits 9:30am, let's have a look at the weather, lovely and warm across the uk. here is carol. the grass pollen levels are very high today across northern ireland, most of england and wales. a lot of dry weather and sunshine, the outside chance of a shower in scotla nd outside chance of a shower in scotland and northern ireland. temperatures ranging from 22 in belfast to 25 of 26 in wales, the midlands and the south east. through this evening and overnight, clear skies, still a lot of dry weather. a front coming in across the north west will introduce more cloud to north west scotland and eventually by the end of the night some splashes of rain. it will not be a cold night, these temperatures represent towns and cities,
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temperatures will be slightly lower in rural areas. a lot of dry and sunny weather again tomorrow. a weather front slipping in across northern ireland and scotland, bringing more cloud and spots of rain. the chair across the north of england. top temperatures are likely to be 27 or 28. hello, this is bbc news with victoria derbyshire. the headlines: lessons start again for some primary school children in england as the government begins to ease lockdown restrictions. millions of vulnerable people in england and wales who were advised to stay indoors will be able to leave their homes for the first time in ten weeks. new rules on social gatherings come into force across the uk — in england, six people from different households can meet up.
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there have been fires near the white house as protests against the killing of an unarmed black man in police custody continue across the us. well, the white x police officer seen kneeling on the neck of george floyd will appear in court in the united states today charged with third—degree murder. violence has erupted in cities across the us on the sixth night of protests sparked by mr floyd's death. curfews have been imposed in nearly 40 cities, but have been mostly ignored. and these were some of the scenes in london yesterday, where thousands of people joined a peaceful march and rally, as reaction to the death of mr floyd spread across the world — demonstrations also took place in some other uk cities and in berlin and toronto. 0ur reporter shamann freeman—powell is here.
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and the reaction, the anger, is growing across the globe — definitely. i think people are exhausted. thousands of people marched in the us embassy over the weekend and hundreds more took to the streets of cardiff and manchester also. in response to what happened to george floyd. but this is not the first time we've seen images of black people dying after coming into contact with law enforcement. many are drawing similarities with another video that went viral around six years ago a man called eric garner who died after being put in a chokehold by an nypd officer. so black people in the uk and across the world are wanting to show solidarity with the us but also want to highlight the institutional racism that they see in the uk too because i think to many george floyd's death represents yea rs of many george floyd's death represents years of frustration over socioeconomic issues in all aspects of society not just socioeconomic issues in all aspects of society notjust in the us but in
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the uk too and this is reflected when i scroll through my timeline, i know many people feel the same but my timeline is flooded with images of young black people in the uk being stopped and searched or tasered and beaten. although the people i speak to see the videos are necessary but they are difficult to watch. lets have a listen. i feel like if someone had personally attacked me. the image of a white male police officer kneeling ona a white male police officer kneeling on a black man's neck... there is an internal fire within on a black man's neck... there is an internalfire within me on a black man's neck... there is an internal fire within me that starts to burn like a furnace. and i get angry, i get mad and i want to do something about it.” angry, i get mad and i want to do something about it. i was disgusted. i still haven't been able to watch the full nine minutes. i think it is traumatic. the first thing i think is, what if that was my brother, my
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boyfriend, my husband, my dad? there is like a list of black people that had been killed. when we see things like this all the time, i think sometimes even as black people, even though we are shocked, we are also desensitised to it. in 2015 there was a period where there was just people die in literally every week and it was, i can't breathe, don't shoot, i got my hands up. the person i started to become at the end of that wasjust i started to become at the end of that was just angry. i started to become at the end of that wasjust angry. i think that is what is so corrosive and danger del we re what is so corrosive and danger del were dangerous but institutional racism, you can feel emotionally and physically hurt even though it happens to someone across the other side of the world. it is a system of oppression, something that is happens over time. it is scary, really. the idea of... grey—mac stop
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and search in the uk seems to be specifically targeting black people. those that live in glass houses shouldn't throw stones.” those that live in glass houses shouldn't throw stones. i think it's important for them to know that they are not alone. every single black person, no matter where you are from, i think we do all deal with similar struggles. black people are never afforded the position to feel co mforta ble. never afforded the position to feel comfortable. so nothing will change. let's speak to ashley banjo — choreographer, founder of diversity, who says watching the footage of george floyd's death has prompted him to speak out about what happened in the us and what happens in the uk. and sayce holmes—lewis, who runs mentivity, which mentors young black men. he says he was stopped by the police only yesterday. good morning, both of you. ashley,
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tell us why you want to speak out. thank you, victoria. i think it's obvious why i want to speak out. i saw that footage for the first time a few days ago, and i felt sick to my stomach. i was upset, i was angry and if i'm honest, i looked at george floyd and i saw my dad, really. it felt like all of these expenses, you know, being pulled over, being wrongly detained, questioned, listening to my mum and dad speak about who was best to go infora dad speak about who was best to go in for a business meeting because my dad was black and my mum was white, and all of these emotions got stirred up in me and i thought to myself, enough is enough, this is so blatant, so wrong and so inhumane, i couldn't sit and say nothing. so you ta ke couldn't sit and say nothing. so you take it personally, the death of george floyd? absolutely. i feel
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like there is definitely a personal element to it. i have been there and i have felt racism my whole life. i also know so many people, so many good and decent people and i'm lucky to be an industry is hugely accepting, you feel it nowhere near as much as other industries and other lines of work. but from being a kid, i've grown up, i've had to think about the colour of my skin, it's just part of growing up black. when i saw what happened to george floyd, i thought to myself, you know, this is not acceptable. it's not right. let me bring in sayce. you mentor young black men. i want to ask you how you felt when you we re to ask you how you felt when you were strolling to your social media and you end up watching the footage ofa and you end up watching the footage of a black man gasping for breath as a white police officer kneels on his neck. i mean, to be honest, i
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avoided it for the first day or so, because these incidents are too, now and it's important to protect your mental health in that respect and i have had situations... i don't see videos of white people being killed by police circulating to the same degree and the fact this is circulating in this manner it is like it is designed to impact us and obviously the injustice around it, not getting the justice we deserve, it is disheartening and it makes me very angry. it makes me very angry because we don't get the justice we deserve. how can you be chosen third degree murder and second—degree manslaughter when you kill in full
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blood? what has happened to you yesterday and looked down?” blood? what has happened to you yesterday and looked down? i was delivering food to people, friends who have lost loved ones from covid—19. i was taking food to people who had lost family members. i was stopped by the police after being out for literally 30 seconds. they racially profiled me and said i was a drug dealer and they wanted to search me and said i would be detained. they searched me and then searched my vehicle. but i decided to film the altercation just raise awareness around it. you cannot stop people without reasonable cause. i am an upstanding black man in the community who mentor is young people in the community. ashley, you have
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never spoken publicly before about your own dad's experiences of contact with white police officers in this country. have you been stopped by the police because of the colour of your skin, do you feel was yellow it's hard, because in my heart, absolutely. i have been profiled, i've seen it happened to my dad, i have been in the car with my dad, i have been in the car with my mum and dad, and going up if we we re my mum and dad, and going up if we were driving home late at night coming to work in the studio, every so blue lights, i knew instantly that the colour of our skin had something to do with it, but at the same time, i know so many police officers, so i don't want this to be just a message of hate, i don't want this to be a message of anger at all police officers. i think there are loads of good police, but at the same time, we need to recognise the
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issues, we need to recognise that racism is real and there are people in positions of power that abuse that power and they use it in the wrong way, and i think george floyd is the absolute pinnacle of that at the moment. i want to ask both of you, i'll start with you, ashley, do you, i'll start with you, ashley, do you think it is not only the responsibility of black people the combat and fight racism?” responsibility of black people the combat and fight racism? i think it is the responsibility of everybody as humans, whether we are white, black, yellow, brown, whether we are british or american, it is everybody‘s responsibility to turn this around, but i think power itself to really change things doesn't actually lie with black people and that's why i think it's so important, you need to stand up and you need to be part of this. sayce ?
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and you need to be part of this. sayce? the issue is that police are supposed to stand for integrity and a lot of them or not. what they are doing with racial profiling and stereotyping people based on a minority, i think that me personally, this has to change, in dialogue with the police with rigorous training programme —— might with regards. you are working with them, sayce? yes, people talk about unconscious bias. this is conscious, this is based on your worldview and the stereotypes you've seen. i do think we have an issue in our community, hence we are doing the work we are doing. however, we have to get into dialogue with white people, we have to have honest conversations about racism. we are told that doesn't exist, the issue we are facing is that we are looking
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to different facets of society to solve the problem of racism rather than the structural inequality. ashley, eric garner has been mentioned, there is also michael brown, no george floyd, is his killing the tipping point? does this feel different? this feels different to me. i can't think in my lifetime when so many people have stood together or stood up and been so kind of passionately united in one front. there are millions and millions of signatures on the petition for the george floyd murder, and i think... iwould petition for the george floyd murder, and i think... i would like to think this will be the tipping point, i really want to believe deep down that this will cause change. but i also know that the arrest of one officer, you know, the sort of
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sharing of a few hashtags will not be enough, we need to keep the momentum, need to keep standing for what's right and we need to change things because it's clearly broken. i think this incident has lifted the lid off and allowed people that probably wouldn't normally get involved in this argument to become activated and involved and that's what's important, you need to keep that. i can see sayce nodding in agreement. i really appreciated, thank you both. keep up the good work. let's speak now to psychologist dr bernard hosford. he wants to talk about the kind of collective trauma, if you like, when it comes to strolling through social media and seeing the kind of horror we saw with the killing of george floyd. hello to you stop good morning. tell us your reaction. the effect on people are witnessing the footage and what it might trigger in them. well, it can be no doubt
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whatsoever that witnessing these types of events causes trauma, causes psychological trauma. interestingly, there has been a statement put out by the american psychiatric association to that effect, the american psychological association bass president has said this a racism pandemic. but there has been ongoing and systematic research which is found time and time again that witnessing these incidents of racial violence causes psychological trauma, causes post—traumatic stress disorder, it causes depression, causes anxiety. so what should people do if they are triggered, if they have those kind of feelings? i think there is two parts. 0ne of feelings? i think there is two parts. one part which is about what the individual can do and certainly, the individual can do and certainly, the individual can do and certainly, the individual should go and seek
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professional help, ideally from a psychologist or from a therapist who has a deep understanding of the types of experiences that black and minority ethnic communities face. 0ften minority ethnic communities face. often that might be black psychologist. there is the type of support they can get from within the community. if the person has witnessed trauma from somebody who is near and close to them, then there is certainly an argument that they should also seek legal advice, because it may well be that they have a personal injury claim if they have a personal injury claim if they have suffered a psychological condition as a result of seeing somebody who is close to them brutalised or victimised by the police. and we have to remember that in the uk, black people make up about 12% of individuals who have the force used against them by the police, but only 3% of the population. so this is an ongoing
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problem. it's not just population. so this is an ongoing problem. it's notjust the situation of george floyd, we have seen similar problems here in the uk, lots of times officers have been exonerated, cases like mark duggan etc. so i think it is something the community overall is very anxious about, not just the community overall is very anxious about, notjust the black community, i think it is the white community as well. the other part of the equation, is not what the individuals do, it is what society does. i would almost say that the police officers that have been found to do this type of crime, they should be brought tojustice swiftly, they should have the most severe penalties meted out against them so that the communities, so that everybody can see thatjustice has been done. 0ften that everybody can see thatjustice has been done. often in my practice, i see people on a lot less evidence than this tried and brought to justice for murder and other charges
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stop at thank you very much for talking to us, we appreciated. -- we appreciate it. car dealerships can reopen from today in england, after closing in march in line with government coronavirus advice. would—be buyers will now be able to talk with sales staff while following strict social distancing protocols, and potentially able to test cars alone, so long as trade plates and the relevant insurance are in place. retailers will then follow strict guidelines when handing over cars, including ensuring that the vehicles, keys and anything else you may touch are disinfected. ben thompson is atjaguar land rover lancaster, in reading. hello, ben. good morning. welcome to reading, and this, one of the first non—essential retailers that are getting to open. car insurance, outdoor markets some of the first. the rest of the retailer is set to open within two weeks. this place
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has all sorts of measures in place to make sure it is safe. when i arrived this morning i had my temperature taken, hand sanitiser and reminders about social distancing, keeping two metres away and all this sort of stuff, constant reminders about how people need to keep a distance by trying to get business back up and running. when it comes to negotiating that sale, you will do it through these plastic screens, also some things in place to make sure it is safe. good morning, neil. lots of things in place to get you to this point, talk me through the last sort of ten weeks. you haven't been able to open, can you sell cars at a distance? it's all about trying isn't it? we can't we have gone to great digital presence but i think you need a personal touch. great digital presence but i think you need a personaltouch. we have touched on some of the things you had to do to make the front of the shop safe but a load of stuff that's been going on behind the scenes? just keeping our team and our
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customers are safe. we have been really busy writing detailed risk assessments for every single site, this one included. once you have got out of the car it will be fully sanitised. we have our teams in groups. so if your car in one group you can't mix with the other. the biggest difference has been in the workshop, we have an empty bay, then a bay with someone working, then an empty bay, so we get great social distancing from our team of the workshop. if you want to try out a car, toa workshop. if you want to try out a car, to a test drive, normally you would have one of you guys in the car with you. what guarantee is that you get the oarabag car with you. what guarantee is that you get the qarabag if it comes back half an hour late, that's fine. —— get the car back? you can really absorb yourself in the car, is it right for me, do i want to talk to the sales guy about it? talking about positives, loads of businesses i've spoken to have had to clearly make changes to the way they
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operate. but a lot of those things have been quite good for them, things they will continue to do long after long dinner is over. what has been like for you? we were always going digital here online as a future for our business and it's really accelerated here. today you can buy a car from start to finish, all you have to do is come and get it, we will even bring it to your house. we wouldn't have got there that quickly without this. we've been really busy on those projects for the last ten weeks and we'll keep doing that. yes, the showroom is really important but the pre—process can all be done online. quite clearly you have a lot of pent—up demand, lots of people coming back after having not been able to come for ten weeks but are you worried about demand in future? who knows with mike we are optimistic, we have great cars, especially at jaguar land rover. i think we have a lot of demand and this whole moved to private transport now, not public transport, we have already seen the impact of
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that, people who are saying they wa nt that, people who are saying they want to buy a car, that has been doubling. it won't take long to get back to what you might call normal levels. so there you have it, one of the first nonessential retailers to open, customers already hear this money but i will talk to some of them in the next hour. find out what they make of the measures that have been put in pleas to keep them safe. more from me a little later. it's a big day for sports fans, with competitive action allowed to return in england from today. one of the first major events to take place is horse racing — but things will be a little different to what we're used to. our sports correspondent katie gornall is at newcastle racecourse to tell us more. it is going to look and feel very different. it has been three months on hold but horse racing will be back today in newcastle. they are limiting numbers, a whole raft of social distancing and hygiene measures in place. you can probably see behind me a big fence, and the
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road into the course is closed, effectively a ring of steel around the racecourse. very few people are allowed in. those people who are going and have had to have the temperature is checked, had to com plete temperature is checked, had to complete an online course as well. earlier in the week, i came down here to newcastle to see behind the scenes some of the things they've been doing. a strict one—way system in place inside the course, the jockeys have had a whole new changing room built as well with different parts so that they can socially distance. jockeys will be wearing masks this afternoon. the only time they will not be able to socially distance is during the leg up socially distance is during the leg up onto the horse. then when they come out, it is going to be quite an eerie atmosphere, no spectators in the stands, no bookies on the track, but not even the owners have been allowed in some numbers have been very strictly limited. i think there is just very strictly limited. i think there isjust a very strictly limited. i think there is just a relief that racing has been allowed to come back. they only got the go—ahead on saturday, there has been weeks of preparation, because the lockdown has been a big hit to their finances, a £15 million
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hole in their finances as a result of the lockdown and that's something i was speaking to martin cruddas about earlier. —— £50 million. i was speaking to martin cruddas about earlier. -- £50 million. it is about earlier. -- £50 million. it is a massive relief and it is not a relief notjust for a massive relief and it is not a relief not just for racecourses but there is about 20,000 jobs that are dependent upon the ecosystem of the industry and it's really important for the protection of those jobs that we are back up and running. it's really important the owners have the confidence that there will be opportunities for their horses to race to keep them in training. and we face a massive challenge, because during the summer months, we are an attendance income led business and we face a massive challenge in dealing with that but i'm sure we will. so, a huge amount of interest as you can imagine on this opening race here at newcastle. it's a ten race here at newcastle. it's a ten race car, 12 runners in each and somebody owners out there have got horses ready to run. course you cannot furlough horses or trainers, they still need to look after the
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horses, the horses need to be exercised and fed so there was a vast amount of horses out there all desperate to race. this was so oversubscribed, they were told they had 369 entries, they had to whittle it down. a little disappointed owners but also a lot of excitement as well. i think within the racing industry they know financially they need to get back on track, is a huge industry directly employing around 20,000 people but indirectly supporting around 70,000 so they feel it is vital to get back on track and get racing again full to buy think also there is a sense of responsibility but also of opportunity for the sport. they know the spotlight is on them now in a way it hasn't been for a number of yea rs way it hasn't been for a number of years and they are desperate to show that they can put on the racing safely here today. it all starts at one o'clock and we've got perfect conditions! we will have the weather ina minute. conditions! we will have the weather in a minute. thanks, katie.
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one person acting says, yes, having seen the plans in place at the school i feel comfortable. llama manor says, no, i school i feel comfortable. llama manorsays, no, iwouldn't school i feel comfortable. llama manor says, no, i wouldn't allow it anyway, i think the government is rushing things through. here is the weather. if you have an allergy to grass pollen, the levels are high or very high today. a lot of dry weather and sunshine, the outside chance of a show in scotla nd the outside chance of a show in scotland and northern ireland, temperatures ranging from 13 in lerwick, 24 in glasgow, 22 in belfast, 25 or 26 in wales, the midlands and the south—east. through this evening and overnight, some clear skies, still a lot of dry weather but a front coming in across the north west will introduce workload across north—west scotland and eventually by the end of the night, some splashes of rain. it will not be a cold night, temperatures representing towns and cities, it will be slightly lower in rural areas. a lot of dry and sunny
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this is bbc news with the latest headlines for viewers in the uk and around the world. huge protests continue across dozens of american cities, as anger grows over the killing of an unarmed black man in police custody. there were violent clashes outside the white house. police fired tear gas at protesters and properties nearby were set on fire. talk about taking the gloves off, man. shaking a hand. despite some moments of solidarity, it's though to be the most widespread civil unrest america has seen since the assassination of martin luther king. lessons start again for some primary school children in england as the government begins to ease
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