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hi, good morning. it's tuesday, welcome to bbc news, i'm victoria derbyshire, here are the headlines. donald trump threatens to send thousands of soldiers onto the streets of the us to stop the violence, as he calls himself "the law and order president." isa is a city or state refuses to take the actions that are necessary to defend the life and property of their residents, then i will deploy their residents, then i will deploy the night it states military and quickly solve the problem for them. —— the united states military. the president did a photocall in front of a church that had been damaged in the protests after police used tear gas to clear
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demonstrators, before he emerged from the white house. george floyd's death has been declared a homicide in an official postmortem examination. his brother visits a memorial and calls for peace. if i'm not over here messing up my community, then what are y'all doing? what are y'all doing?! y'all doing? what are y'all doing?! y'all doing nothing! that's not going to bring my brother back at all. here, ministers look at ways to relax the government's 14—day travel quarantine for people coming into the uk, because of potential damage to the travel industry. more than £4,000 was wiped off the average house price in may — the biggest monthy fall in 11 years.
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our top story — the violent protests across the united states triggered by the death in police custody of the black man george floyd. in an address at the white house — as protestors nearby were dispersed with tear gas and rubber bullets — president trump said he was prepared to deploy thousands of heavily armed troops to end the rioting and looting. he said mayors and state governors must establish an overwhelming law enforcement presence on the streets, and if they didn't act, he would send in the us military. that is why i am taking immediate presidential action to stop the violence and restore security and safety in america. i am mobilising all available federal
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resources, civilian and military, to stop the rioting and looting, to end the destruction and arson and to protect the rights of law—abiding americans, including your second amendment rights. today i have strongly recommended to every governor to deploy the national guard in sufficient numbers that we dominate the streets. mayors and governors must establish an overwhelming law enforcement presence until the violence has been quelled. if a city or state refuses to take the actions that are necessary to defend the life and property
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of their residents, then will deploy the united states military and quickly solve the problem for them. thank you very much. and now i'm going to pay my respects to a very, very special place. thank you very much. reporter: mr president, your thoughts right now? sirens wail. president trump had told state governors earlier that most of them were weak, he said they should dominate the protestors or look like "a bunch ofjerks." and he said minnesota — where george floyd died after a white police officer knelt on his neck for nearly nine minutes — was a laughing stock. this was minnesota governor tim walz‘s response he was saying of the world was
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laughing at the states who were not taking action. i said no one's laughing here. we are in pain, we are crying. we saw a man lose his life in front of them, and our challenge is that this is about social trust, social contacts and re—establishing faith in the people who are there to serve them. and ijust mentioned that. and i also shared with the president that a posture of force on the ground is both unsustainable militarily, it's also unsustainable socially, because it's the antithesis of how we live, it's the antithesis of civilian control. so i expressed that on the call. the official postmortem examination of george floyd has declared his death a homicide as a result of compression to the neck while being restrained. the official report was published shortly after an post—morten commissioned by the floyd family concluded he died from asphyxiation. earlier, his brother, terence, visited the scene of george floyd's arrest — and death — where a makeshift memorial has been established. and he spoke to the crowds there.
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in every case of police brutality, the same thing has been happening. y'all protest, y'all destroy stuff and they don't move. you know why they don't move? because it's not their stuff, it's our stuff, so they want us to destroy our stuff. that's right. they are not going to move. so let's do this another way. that's right, come on, now. let's do this another way. crowd cheers. jared goyette is a freelance reporter, he was covering the protests in minneapolis when he was hit by a rubber bullet. tell our audience in britain what it was like? either set the scene of
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the third precinct, the police station closest to where the killing of george floyd occurred. i saw a protester that was seriously injured andi protester that was seriously injured and i tried to document what was happening to him, the efforts to help and treat him. people carried that protester off to the side, i thought it was safer but the front line, if you will, where the police we re line, if you will, where the police were shifting, just as they managed to get that protester in a car to a hospital, i was blindsided by a projectile, presumably a rubber bullet, all around me people were being hit by rubber bullets and several journalists that they were hit by rubber bullets and i had the unlucky... i was unlucky enough to catch it in the eye. people rushed to help me, that they had onlyjust help me up when we were tear gassed
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andi help me up when we were tear gassed and i had one fully closed eye and one tear gas to eye, but i my way to safety. we can see the redness and the damage underneath your eye. in terms of the relationship between the people who are protesting at the police, how would you describe that? i would describe it as thinly veiled hatred or anger. from which side to which side? both sides. based on my personal experience, the anger from the police extend to the media as well. i think it is important to understand that since 2015 we have had a year after year after year of protest over the police killing of unarmed civilians, usually black
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men, in one case an australian woman in her pyjamas, but year after get protests. it has defined our politics, there has been pent—up anger that things have not improved, you have pent up energy with the pandemic and people at home, that was part of the circumstances that produced what we saw and felt. can i ask you about the make—up of protesters ? ma ny ask you about the make—up of protesters? many people would like to be involved in peaceful demonstrations over the death of george floyd, we know president trump has suggested that antifa is involved and he wants to declare that a terrorist organisation, there is always toe also the question of white supremacists using it as an example to stir up hatred? both of those organisations are useful boogie men depending on who you are. antifa has no visible presence on the streets here. there have been reports of white supremacists making
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themselves seen and visible, that has been documented. i am right now in the heart of north neapolis, one of the largest black communities, i have been patrolling not with police but with community patrol setup —— north minneapolis. mostly arms, residents trying to make sure their businesses are safe and their homes are safe businesses are safe and their homes a re safe not businesses are safe and their homes are safe not from protesters but from opportunity took advantage to attack businesses and set fires. their fear attack businesses and set fires. theirfear is attack businesses and set fires. their fear is that white supremacists will take control of this moment and attack them. thank you for talking to us, we appreciate your time. president trump's call for the police to ‘dominate' the streets was also met with strong criticism from at least one police chief — in houston, texas, art avecado said "let me just say this to the president of the united states, on behalf of the police chiefs of this country, please, if you don't have something
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constructive to say, keep your mouth shut." a number of officers across the us have been seen walking with protesters, some have taken a knee in protest at racial injustice, there have been handshakes and hugs. between demonstrators and security officers. eric ham is a political analyst in washington. he does not have any affiliation with any particular party. thank you very much for talking to us, what has it been like in washington overnight? tonight has been relatively calm in comparison to the last few nights we have seen where fires have been set and buildings have been burnt, windows smashed out of places and, of course, that historic church across the street from the white house has been defaced. this is a microcosm of the anger and frustration, the pain that so anger and frustration, the pain that so many americans anger and frustration, the pain that so many americans across anger and frustration, the pain that so many americans across the country are feeling. much of that anger at
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least in washington is directed at the white house, the epicentre of political power in this country. the president's comments tonight certainly did very little if anything actual to quell that anger and frustration and i think in fact it has made things much, much worse. i want to ask you why you believe president trump walk to that church, which had been damage the previous evening by demonstrators, and held up evening by demonstrators, and held up the bible in front of eight, after having to get law enforcement officers to disperse the crowds before he could do that? it is the irony of what the president did, which i think is so illustrative of what we had seen from this president throughout his tenure in the white house. this is a president who, prior to walking over to that church, gives a speech talking about
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the second amendment, talking about law and order, nothing about the anguish, nothing about the rapid inequality, nothing about the dehumanisation of people of colour who have been gunned down by police officers, and then to walk to a church which is symbolic of healing, the church is symbolic of forgiveness, symbolic of nonviolence, and his path to that very church was marked by the violence of the state on peaceful protesters and demonstrators, and then when the president gets to the church we do not see the president praying, we do not see the president reading scripture, we see the president that has a photo op. we heard from the bishop of the church that they were not aware the president was coming, it was not sanctioned by the church itself and again the president using the church asa again the president using the church as a prop. and in this case a political prop. we know the
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president's base is made up of evangelicals, and that goes may be a long way towards pacifying them. but again what we're seeing across the country is a nation desperately needing leadership, looking for healing, they simply did not get it the president. the family of george floyd had said they do not want violence in his name. wejust heard mr floyd's brother urging people not to get involved in the looting and the ransacking to get involved in the looting and the ra nsacking and to get involved in the looting and the ransacking and so on. what should the president do? he has talked about bringing in the military if governors can't sort out the violence, what do you think he should do? people are breaking the law. that's right, they are, and i think what the president should be doing is providing the resources that governors and mayors across the country will need in order to not only heal their communities and neighbourhoods but also bring about
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a level of stability and organisation. this is a president who had been pushing for weeks now to open the state up because of the pandemic that has been rocking the nation. and now we are seeing the perfect storm where you have covid—19 running up against the anarchy from the result of this brutal death of george floyd, and so the president needs to be providing resources that they need, not necessarily stroking flames and pitting groups against one another, andi pitting groups against one another, and i think that is what we are seeing this president do, once again using an opportunity of crisis to seek some sort of political gain, and right now the country need so much more than that. obviously what has happened to george floyd has touched people around the world. and the global reach of black lights matters and also blackout tuesday,
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which some viewers will be taking pa rt which some viewers will be taking part in, please explain what that is? lacko tuesday is a day when people of colour will typically spend it their own communities or with businesses run by people of colour. —— blackout tuesday. civil rights icon rosa parks was removed from a bus which began the bus boycott of montgomery anneka —— montgomery, alabama, where many people refuse to ride the bus and we saw the economic toll but took on the bus department at that time. so now we are seeing the bus department at that time. so now we are seeing that play out again, where people of colour, rather than spending money in mainstream operations and businesses, are spending their money with businesses run by people of colour. thank you very much for talking to us. eric ham, political
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a nalyst talking to us. eric ham, political analyst from washington. if you are taking part in blackout tuesday, you will probably know that radio 1 and radio1 extra are will probably know that radio 1 and radio 1 extra are taking will probably know that radio 1 and radio1 extra are taking part will probably know that radio 1 and radio 1 extra are taking part today. if it means something to you, tell us if it means something to you, tell us what it means, message me on twitter or send me an e—mail. i will bring you a report from associated press to do with what has been happening in las vegas, there had been demonstrations there, as there has been across many cities in there has been across many cities in the united states. associated press is reporting that a police officer in las vegas has been shot. we do not know the condition of the officer and we have one source at the moment, associated press, reporting that a las vegas police officer has been shot. we do not know the circumstances or the officer puts my condition, as soon as we have more information we will bring it to you this morning —— or
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the officer's condition. let's get more from minneapolis and cbs news correspondent michael george is there. i wonder if you have any more information on the reports of this shooting of an officer in vegas? we are waiting for more information on that as well, it is just coming in. here in minneapolis, a very different scene, despite the fact we have seen so much violence overnight across the us. it is about 3am local time, we are at the site where george floyd died and protesters are still here, even at 3am, peacefully protesting. it has been peaceful all night, we have not seen any police officers, police have let people come here and congregate and protest and chant and share their thoughts, we had seen a very different tone in minneapolis than in so many other cities, especially in dc and new york, now we are hearing about las vegas where things have been very
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violent at times. in minneapolis we are seeing a violent at times. in minneapolis we are seeing a very violent at times. in minneapolis we are seeing a very large police presence outside of this area, the national guard has been mobilised and if they see crowds violating the cu rfew and if they see crowds violating the curfew they have been arresting them. a few nights ago we were seeing the buildings and vandalism, we have not seen that for the last two nights in minneapolis, the message has been one of peace and justice for the floyd family. is that partly because mr floyd puts my brother, we played a clip of him to oui’ brother, we played a clip of him to our audience in britain, has said they do not want violence in his name and they have urged people to simply vote in the presidential election in november. that took place right here, the floyd family, he came right here and gave that message and certainly from my conversations with protesters here they do not want violence to take away from their message. there are murals here, people bringing flowers, there is a very sombre mood
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at this location. they consider the sacred ground, there has definitely been an intentional effort to try to avoid violence and keep language out of the chants, here. it is very, very moving to see that memorial behind you, and the people lighting candles. what kinds of things are they saying to you today? there is a national trauma taking place here. it is very difficult for all others to see americans beaten, americans tear gassed, arrested. it cuts to the core of all of us. there is so much pain here. there is so much anger here. and so people really wa nt anger here. and so people really want a space to express that and thatis want a space to express that and that is what this place has become, it has been that way. dates. we are grateful for your contribution to
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oui’ grateful for your contribution to our audience, thank you, michael. really appreciate it. measures to relax a 1k day quarantine for arrivals to the uk are being considered by government ministers. the proposed move comes amid signs of a rebellion among mps concerned about the impact of the quarantine on the aviation and tourism industries. andy moore reports. the beaches of spain, like here at malaga, are beginning to open up, but will we be able to get to them? spain's tourism minister says the uk's coronavirus figures will have to improve before british tourists can be welcomed back. and as well as problems at our intended destination, we'll also have to deal with two weeks' isolation when we return. that scheme has alarmed many in the tourism industry and on the back benches of the conservative party. we'll get more detail today, but the plan which starts next week will be reviewed every three weeks. one possibility to ease the quarantine is to create so—called air bridges
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or travel corridors to places with similar levels of infection. that might not come in the first review, but could come towards the end ofjuly, just at the start of the school holiday in england. the uk's test, track and trace programme is one of the keys to reducing levels of infection. it was launched last thursday, but we haven't heard much about it apart from reports of some staff having little to do. but mr hancock told the downing street press conference the vast majority of newly infected people and their contacts had been traced. we've hired, as you know, 25,000 people to work as contact tracers, and the level of incidence of disease has come down, and so, actually, we have more capacity than we need. this is a good thing. there were 111 deaths reported yesterday in all settings
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and an additional a45 deaths previously not reported where coronavirus tests were carried out in private labs. but the death rate is generally trending downwards and britain is beginning to open up again for business. a clear sign of that could be seen outside the 19 ikea stores that opened up for trade yesterday. at some places, up to 1,000 people were said to be queueing patiently and socially distanced lines. andy moore, bbc news. let's speak to stephen hammond, one conservative mp — and former health minister — who thinks quarantine is a bad idea. he is also a former parliamentary undersecretary for transport. you would like the government to change its mind? i would like to consider a targeted approach rather than the blanket approach is taken, i think there are plenty of ways we can introduce a targeting system which would reassure people and mitigate
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the health risks that allow people to travel around and also show that britain is open for business. give us some britain is open for business. give us some suggestions of what a targeted approach would mean to you? travel corridors, call it what you like, between countries of relatively low transmission, where the r rate is relatively low. you could look at pre—travel trusting, temperature tests at airports, ensuring that people are wearing ppe all through airports and on planes —— you could look at pre—travel testing. you could keep quarantine restrictions for high—risk areas. what is wrong with the plan as you see it at the moment? it is a binding approach, everybody must quarantine. what is wrong with the medical evidence is equivocal, symmetrical people say it will help, others say it will not. there are so many exemptions being posed that
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actually it's likely undermines the whole point. if your philosophy for doing this is it is designed to keep transmissions low, if you have that many exceptions i think a lot of people will be slightly surprised that that will work and now a targeted approach is much more likely to have greater public agreement and probably likely to keep safer. on the subject of exemptions, the guardian said this morning they had seen draft plans on this 14 day travel quarantine which have yet to be published or late before people like yourself, they say the draft plan suggest that tens of thousands of people coming into the uk will still be able to go food shopping, change accommodation and get on trains, planes and other elements of public transport during their 14 day quarantine? that slightly makes my point for me, if you're going to allow those widespread exemptions, why have the system in place anyway? as mr
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hancock quite rightly said yesterday, traits, tracking and testing is getting better, we have seen testing is getting better, we have seen the government's measures work intensive transmission rates coming lower, the medical evidence about whether this will really help is equivocal. if you will allow others exemptions, if you really think you wa nt to exemptions, if you really think you want to make the transmission rate below you either do it without those exemptions or you debate in a way i am suggesting, dare i say, a more targeted way. provides why are they doing it in a more targeted way right now? —— doing it in a more targeted way right now? -- why aren't they doing it any more targeted way right now? i know the government is considering that either before it brings the measures in week or at the first review in june 29, measures in week or at the first review injune 29, i would strongly urge them to think about getting targeted measures in place. briefly you just said test, tracking and tracing is getting better. how do you know? i listened very carefully
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to what the health secretary said last night and i heard the question from one of your colleagues that not enough people let not enough of the traces seem to be occupied, but matt hancock made the point that that means that more people are doing what they have been asked to do, there are other ways of tracking them. i listened carefully to the health secretary, he said it is getting better and i am certainly prepared to give the health secretary his credence for that. thank you very much, stephen hammond, conservative mp and former health minister. mps return to westminster today, almost two months since the introduction of virtual voting and a limit of 50 mps in the house of commons at any one time. many of them return. a vote on whether to reverse these measures has faced criticism from some mps, who argue that the most vulnerable, will be unable to have their say.
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but the leader of the house of commons says democracy will "once again flourish." let's speak now to conservative mp robert halfon, who has been shielding at home during the coronavirus pandemic. hello to you, thank you for talking to us. would you be able to tell our audience why you cannot go back to westminster yourself?” audience why you cannot go back to westminster yourself? i want parliament to go back, i think it is incredibly important we set an example to the nation, but what is democratically unjust and entirely wrong is to say to those mps who genuinely cannot go back if they are shielding, self isolating or unwell, that they will be denied their fundamental parliamentary duty which is to vote. in essence that is making us all parliamentary eunuchs. there is absolutely no reason why you can't have a hybrid system where mps who can't commit and vote online
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01’ even mps who can't commit and vote online or even by proxy. in fact, those mps, rightly, on the territory, for example, could vote by proxy but those affected by covid are not. parliamentary eunuchs, that is quite a striking phrase. whenjacob rees—mogg, leader of the house, says democracy will flourish once more, what do you to him? there was a famed historian mcauley who described my party, and ina pro conservative, but he described my party as stern and unbending. —— and ina proud conservative. jacob rees—mogg is being stern and impending and failing to light as mps, who are not able to come in, i would be in tomorrow, i love parliament, i believe it is the greatest in the world, it is a privilege to be an mp, my gp last night said do not go in, i was really tempted to go in because i wa nted really tempted to go in because i wanted to vote today and this stern
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and unbending attitude of the powers that be is unfortunately why many people sometimes have problems with the conservative party, this is a classic example of that. there is no logic, no reason, nojustification for not allowing mps who genuinely cannot go into had some kind of vote, whether by proxy or online. it doesn't make sense, so what is going on? there are arch traditionalists in the house of commons, by the way, i am a traditionalist, i love parliament and the way it works but they seem to sort of take the attitude of the presence “— to sort of take the attitude of the presence —— the president of brazil, also narrow, who described coronavirus is the sniffles, if you cannot be there, tough luck. although i am able to participate in some parliamentary proceedings, i chair the education committee and bang goodness i am able to do that,
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but i am not allowed to do, the most fundamental duty of any mp is to vote and i am disenfranchising not just myself, the other mps, but each of us who are not allowed to vote, oui’ of us who are not allowed to vote, our constituents are being disenfranchised as well so they will have no voice, no proper voice in parliament, goodness knows how long and for no logical reason, except stubbornness is what the historian said, stern and unbending attitude by the powers that be. thank you very much. stay safe, stable, thank you for talking to us. we are going to talk about both of these issues, quarantine and that return to parliament with norman smith, at westminster. some really strong criticism from robert, there. yes, the reality is that jacob rees—mogg may well have to back off, the opposition parties clearly want some sort of hybrid, virtual parliament to continue. i think around seven tory chairman of select committees
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have signed a motion calling for the hybrid parliament to continue and the problem is basically this. although jacob rees—mogg the problem is basically this. althouthacob rees—mogg once parliament to return as normal, there's been no answer found to how oui’ there's been no answer found to how ourmps are going there's been no answer found to how our mps are going to vote, if you vote going through the lobbies you are rammed in, crushed in, know where you can socially distance so the only way so far devised to do it is by an extraordinary long queueing system which the speaker is proposing for the votes today, whereby mps would vote from the dispatch box by the speaker ‘s chair, all the way through the commons chamber, through the members lobby, through central lobby, turn right through since stephen's chapel, back into westminster hall, round that a couple of times, you would have acute more than a kilometre long because there are 650 mps, two metres apart, do the maths, it's an extraordinarily long queue. in other words, it would take, i guess, maybe an hour or more to do
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the votes so i think are faced with the votes so i think are faced with the resistance of many mps to abandoning virtual voting anyway, and the practicalities of the options, it seems to me quite possible that mps will say no thank you, we're going to stick with the hybrid parliament. on quarantine, will the government change its mind on that because of pressure from backbenchers or others?” on that because of pressure from backbenchers or others? i think it's extremely likely that the restrictions are going to have to be eased and the government is actually talking about trying to set up these air bridges to other countries. the difficulty is this. it's notjust a question of whether people coming from other countries would bring infections into the uk. we have to ta ke infections into the uk. we have to take account the views of the other countries. would people in spain or greece, for example, want brits going there when we still have, the ons going there when we still have, the 0ns estimates, around 8000 infections a day, much higher death rate than other countries. so the problem is not just rate than other countries. so the problem is notjust us saying we
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would like an air corridor, they have to want it as well. that has to be negotiated. so we can'tjust sort of turn on the switch and get these air corridors up and running, we have to strike deals with all these countries. and that, i think it may ta ke countries. and that, i think it may take some time so i think the restrictions will be eased but maybe not untiljuly. norman, thank you very much. drug gangs attempting to operate during the lockdown have been on a recruitment drive targeting vulnerable children increasingly girls. that's the conclusion of a new report to the government. let's get more on this from our home affairs correspondent tom symonds good morning to you. crime, broadley has gone down, there have been some exceptions. fight the concerns about this? there's a few things happening at once, crime has grown, gone down, gangs finding it hard to move drugs around, less people on the streets, less traffic on the road, they tend
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to blend in but equally, they are realising there is an opportunity, a lot of children who are vulnerable, difficult backgrounds, stuck at home, perhaps falling out with pa rents, home, perhaps falling out with parents, they don't have the possibility of going to school or going out to anywhere else and they are going out to anywhere else and they a re really going out to anywhere else and they are really going on the streets and being approached by, we are told, youth workers, sorry, by drug gangs and youth workers say this is a real concern because and youth workers say this is a real concern because they are losing track of children that they had an idea of where they were, who they we re idea of where they were, who they were talking to. until the lockdown started. and the real worried is about girls, it seems drug gangs, according to this report by the national youth agency, realising that girls are less likely to be spotted by the police, picked up, stopped, talked to, that sort of thing and they are being targeted and that's something a number of youth agencies are saying is happening now. ok. and so what do the youth workers say it needs to happen to help those who are being
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targeted by the drug gangs? we spent the whole of yesterday with various youth workers in bristol, there is a particular issue there. the thing they said most of all they needed was youth centre is to reopen. the biggest problem is this is where children go for their safe space, away from the kind of approach as they might get on the street, away from the troubles at home, perhaps. at its most importantly for youth workers gather intelligence about who these kids are seeing, what they are doing, what they are talking about and they say those centres have been shot. there are some one—to—one work going on which is helping, perhaps the most difficult cases are being dealt with but they are losing track and actually, the children's commissioner franklin said something quite striking, she thinks thousands of children who are vulnerable have gone off the radar and just vulnerable have gone off the radar andjust in vulnerable have gone off the radar and just in this period, when lockdown has been in place, we went toa lockdown has been in place, we went to a youth centre yesterday in bristol, totally close, get shot, nobody there for weeks and weeks and weeks. be concerned. —— gates shut.
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tom, thank you. twenty police forces across england, scotland and wales caught motorists driving at more than a hundred miles per hour during the early stages of the lockdown, according police data obtained by the rac. the highest speed was clocked at 151 miles—per—hour on the m62 motorway in west yorkshire. the rac described the speeds as "truly shocking" and warned that motorists travelling this fast have "virtually no time to react should anything unexpected happen". social distancing in the playground, just 15 pupils in a class and hand sanitiser on the desks — are just some of the measures being used to keep primary school children safe. pupils in reception, year one and year six in england, were able to return to the classroom yesterday, but some head teachers say parents are choosing to keep their children at home. john maguire has been to visit a school in northampton, to see how the first day back went. good morning, how are we? a virtual hug from the head teacher welcomes children back to roade primary
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school near northampton. a parent has turned up and given us a lovely donation. i'm trying to gently open it because i'm pretty sure that, yes, as soon as they get out into the staff, they are going to go down very well. even the head is wearing sports kit that can be easily laundered instead of a suit — just one difference. 2—metre stripes keep families distanced, and there is a one—way system for dropping children off, all done to keep those returning to school as safe as possible. she's really excited to be coming back. i think they've put a lot of effort into making it as safe as they can. i'm more than happy. i think it's an individual preference to every family. for beau, she's onlyjust turned five and started at school so i think she needs it for the social aspects, needs to get back into a routine. what are you most looking forward to about school? i most looking forward to see some of my friends and go back to school.
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along with the children of key workers, just over half the pupils eligible to return — that's reception, year 1 and year 6 — are back, all now separated into bubbles. have a nice day, won't you? preparing for this many children has been a major challenge. so far, so good. i mean, the biggest pleasure really was seeing the children come in and the big smiles and they're obviously very happy to be back. the staff have been amazing, absolutely brilliant, welcomed them. the bubbles are working, children have gone off to their rooms quite happily. it is a bit of a false dawn, though, because we've got such small numbers in each room, but it's doable, as it is at the moment. they are fortunate here to have a good deal of outdoor space and even the willow classroom. the virus is far less likely to spread in the fresh air. all i want to do know as a teacher is that i myself am not going to be a reason why another
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family gets ill or my own family gets ill. i know that young children are in the least concerned group. i'm happy to come back because of the preparation that we have here. many of the children are seeing friends again for the first time in 10 weeks. i'm actually getting to see people, because i don't have any brothers or sisters. been a bit bored, while i'm doing my school work at home. i was quite nervous about coming in because i didn't quite know what it was going to be like but now that i've got here, i know what it's like and i quite like the feeling of it because you've got your own desk, you have everything that you need and you canjust sit and get on with your work without any distractions. the children eat, learn and play, all in their bubbles. maximum size, 15. each and every part of the school day has been rethought and redesigned to provide reassurance. john maguire, bbc news, northamptonshire.
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more than £4,000 was wiped off the average house price in may, marking the biggest monthly fall in property values in 11 years, according to an index. the report from nationwide building society said that across the uk, property values fell by 1.7% month—on—month in may. we can talk to mark hayward who is the chief executive of the national association of estate agents. how do you react to these figures? i don't think we are surprised. the market was in lockdown for at least ten weeks. the house sales process has only just been ten weeks. the house sales process has onlyjust been reopened. so there is very, very little activity, i think, for its statistics to reflect but i think there is a re—evaluation from homeowners at the moment as to where they want to live, in what sort of property they wa nt to live, in what sort of property they want to live. but i think it's not something that people should fear, it's a pause, it is not a permanent
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end. 4000 knocked off the average house price in may, is it a lot, not a lot, how do you read it? you think the average house price in the uk, in england, the uk, around £260,000. it's not a huge amount but certainly it's not something to be ignored. i think the plethora of support measures the government is giving will encourage house moving, interest rates remain incredibly low. and if you look at the sort of economic supply and demand, we are still experiencing very, very low supply of houses currently to be bought. ok. so, is it a buyer 's market or a seller ‘s market? bought. ok. so, is it a buyer 's market or a seller 's market? we have more buyers than sellers, currently. i think people are being slightly cautious still, particularly if there is a second wave, there is obviously caution
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regarding employment. but the need to move remains, people have not been able to move for a considerable amount of time so those that have to move are now getting on with it. the chancellor of course i said we will have a recession like we have never seen have a recession like we have never seen before, quote on quote, i wonder what that will mean for your industry in the coming months?” think we will have to see. it depends on employment, it depends how effective the chancellor ‘s measures are. but people have to live somewhere, they have to move, interest rates are low and certainly, from the release of lockdown, the pent—up demand has been huge. thank you, thank you for talking to us. got some more figures for you. the governmentjust releasing statistics from coronavirus business loan schemes showing £21 billion in bounce back loa ns was showing £21 billion in bounce back loans was offered to 873,000 firms that applied. quite a bit more than was expected. new figures are for
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how the other schemes like the coronavirus business interruption loa n coronavirus business interruption loan scheme and the coronavirus large business loan interruption scheme is working. 0ur economics correspondent andy verity joins us. fill us in on these figures. bounce back loans were only brought in relatively late in the day, they weren't the original scheme and they we re weren't the original scheme and they were brought in partly because it became apparent the original scheme wasn't working very well to reach the hundreds of thousands of firms out there who are desperate for cash to try and stay in business. the fa ct to try and stay in business. the fact that £21 billion has been lent out to more than 870,000 firms, shows what demand there was for cash that was being frustrated by the original schemes. so if you look at the original scheme, the the coronavirus business interruption scheme, billed as part of a £300 billion package in the market march budget, you remember them? this was
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supposed to rescue corporate britain but the problem was the government was not renting 100% of any losses the banks were lending money might rack up. and therefore they were doing all the normal underwriting, the normal things, the checks they make in order to make sure they are co mforta ble make in order to make sure they are comfortable that their customer can't repay and of course, a lot of these customers couldn't demonstrate they had a business plan or the money they were going to make in the next few months because they did not know, no one knows, no one knows when the shutdown is going to let so the normal underwriting process wasn't really applicable here. and yet the banks are trying to apply it to customers who are saying, i'm desperate, it's not my fault, give me some money. the government turned around and did the bounce back loan scheme and clearly in the last month, £21 billion is a lot of money to lend more than twice as much as was lent under the original loan schemes. the business interruption loa n schemes. the business interruption loan scheme so it shows the desperation there is out there in corporate britain, in spite of all the government support there is, to
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find any way they can through this crisis. cheers, andy. let's get more on this now — and i'm joined by two small business owners. sarah ali choudhury is a chef who runs a catering business and took the bounce back loan scheme. she's in bournemouth. and also i'm joined by philippa lurcock, who runs phormular limited, an exhibition design and installation business. tell us what your job tell us what yourjob wasn't how it was affected by the pandemic.” tell us what yourjob wasn't how it was affected by the pandemic. i went round and did cookery demonstrations, at food festivals, somehow macrory cookery classes, that kind of thing, at the moment we cannot do anything like that so i've changed my business slightly, banks to covid 19. and decided changed my business slightly, banks to covid19. and decided to do a sort of coaching and mentoring for people who are going into a food business themselves, who are starting a business, so i can give them advice and help, so everything ican them advice and help, so everything i can offer will be digitally accessible. how much did you borrow from the government?”
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accessible. how much did you borrow from the government? i could have borrowed a lot more but i went for a smaller amount, £4000. how has it helped you? it's helped me a lot in terms of being able to get immediate access to equipment for setting up a new youtube channel, new website, and some things that are kind of readily available but all digitally accessible. i could have applied for more and i could have got more but what i was thinking was how would i pay it back? so that was my bigger concern. how long have you got to pay it back and forth the interest rate? the interest rate is 2.596 after 12 months of no interest. so then you've got six years to pay the whole amount back and if you pay anything, if you decide to pay it all off before the time, there are no fees. if you hadn't had that
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long, what would have happened to your business? well, i cannot do the cookery demonstrations, i cannot rent to houses, do cookery classes directly with people to be honest, the money is great to have, i don't know in terms of economic value, because nobody knows what's going to happen in the future, including rishi sunak, he doesn't know what's going to happen either! in terms of moving forward to the future i think this is a great way for me to quickly change my business but in terms of a more longer term, i think the structure that i'm setting up will provide me with strength to continue in a business rather than ifi continue in a business rather than if i carried on going back to what i was doing, and if we have another case of covid 19, it would mean what happens then? so for myself, this, i think, is a really good move. good to hear. philippa, hello. you run an exhibition and installation business. i want to check with you,
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do you see the possibility of earning any income at all this year? through your business? well, we were effectively closed at the start of march. the nec, the excel centre in london. at the start of march the entire book for 2020 was wiped out. as andy said in his report, we are desperate. we couldn't apply for the original loan scheme, we had no idea what that business landscape was going to look like but in answer to the original question, we are desperately trying to find ways to change our business. at the moment we are struggling. the only income we are struggling. the only income we have had is from a project we took to design and install customs stations for the coronavirus vaccine
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testing task force. that was a very small project, compared to my usual income, we are down about £100,000 on turnover at the minute. let me ask you, if i may, how much you borrow? we took a smaller amount. £50,000. in terms of our business, we are a small company, we employ four people including myself and my husband, and freelancers, we are relatively small but we have relatively small but we have relatively high overheads, we have large projects, designing and installing large exhibition stands so installing large exhibition stands so these are large projects. £50,000 isa so these are large projects. £50,000 is a bit ofa so these are large projects. £50,000 is a bit of a spin in terms of our overheads, a business unit, we weren't eligible for rate relief, business grant from government because we were £500 over the rateable value so we weren't eligible for that, we were outside the remit of measurements, we didn't
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get the £25,000 grant, we weren't eligible for any support at all. sorry, just briefly, it is important andi sorry, just briefly, it is important and i think there are lots of people in the same position. are you counted as self—employed ? in the same position. are you counted as self—employed? why couldn't you furlough yourself, you area couldn't you furlough yourself, you are a limited company, i know that, do you come under that group of workers who have missed out essentially, big time, with free money from the government? absolutely, free money. yes. because we run a limited business, we are not considered self—employed by hmrc, even though the department for work and pensions considers to be self—employed, but that's story. we don't qualify for the support scheme, if we did my husband and i wouldn't be eligible for £28,000 in grants, that is effectively free money, we would not have to pay back. we have missed out in total on
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£53,000. we are running out of time, i must read the statement. we've provided and a president package of support for businesses including over 40 billions in loans and guarantees, tax drills, cash grants, paying the wages of 8.4 million furloughed workers. we are doing everything we can to make sure companies feel the benefit on offer. i want to ask you briefly, how long is this 50,000 going to last four, when are you going to run out of money and how are you going to pay it back? we will run out pretty soon because it's already come up most of it has been used to pay overheads up until now. and then it will pay the rates, the rent, all the business overheads for a few months. then, who knows? it's not going to support my family or who knows? it's not going to support pay who knows? it's not going to support my family or pay my mortgage, keep my family or pay my mortgage, keep my children fed. we don't know how we are going to pay it back, we are taking it because we believe in ourselves, our innovation, you know, we will get through it somehow. thank you all for talking to is, i
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wish you all the best stop philippa and sarah. those figures out today, really interesting, £21 billion loaned out by the government. to 870,000 businesses. gyms and bars will be allowed to reopen in several german towns and cities from today, as the country continues to relax restrictions. germany gained international recognition for the way it brought the coronavirus outbreak under control, but there are now fears it may be moving too quickly. 0ur berlin correspondent jenny hill sent this report. it's going to be a painful recovery.
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dusseldorf‘s gyms open again as germany relaxes most of its corona restrictions. "i'm torn," brita tells us. "i enjoy the new freedoms, but at the same time, i'm a bit scared. maybe it was too early." germany's cautious approach relaxing now. angela merkel continues to warn repeatedly that this country is still in the early stages of the pandemic. on a day like this, it's hard to believe it. germany has brought its outbreak under control, but there is now an intense public debate about what happens next. this country can still boast low infection rates, but it's early days. yes, i think it is too soon just now, we're easing up too fast, we're easing up too much, so we risk a second wave, and i don't really understand why this is done so quickly, because, still, more than 80% of the population stand behind the federal agreements,
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which we had some time ago. small but voluble, a minority demanded angela merkel lift restrictions. so, more significantly, did germany's regional leaders, like armin laschet, who's a leading candidate to replace her when she steps down next year. translation: we have the health problem of the pandemic, but there's another damage — children from disadvantaged backgrounds who couldn't go to school, sick people who didn't get treatment because the hospitals were reserved for covid, people in care homes got lonely. this is damage too and it's claimed lives. nothing then to do with raising his political profile? translation: the measures we had to decide are so important, a matter of life and death. you couldn't act on a tactical basis. katarina's not impressed, though the relaxation's meant she's seen her family for first time in weeks. "i'm very sceptical, very sceptical," she says. "it's like tipping over a sack of potatoes."
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this country, praised worldwide for its initial success, feels rather fragile now. jenny hill, bbc news. thank you to mike who has e—mailed on those business loans. he said he applied for £8,000 on the day it went live, my provider, a high street bank has still not provided me with cash, despite saying my application has been approved. even they describe themselves as inundated, the cash never materialises. thank you. let's bring you the weather, with carol. hello. if you were hoping for rain in the forecast in the next few days, there is somebody it falls and how much there is, is going to be fairly hit and miss. it's going to drink much
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cooler than it has been. pulling in more of a northerly wind, sometimes that wind will be quite costly. high pressure in charge of the weather today, keeping things across england and wales fairly settled. but for scotla nd and wales fairly settled. but for scotland and northern ireland, the far north of england, we have a weather front and are slowly sinking southwards, taking this cloud and showery outbreaks of rain with it. some of the showers could be quite heavy and possibly thundery in north—east scotland, northern ireland, later in northern england. behind that weather front it's turning much cooler than it has been, yesterday in the north highlands it was 26 degrees, tie only 12 degrees but as we come further south we hang on to the very warm conditions, locally in the south—east today, temperatures could reach 28. this evening and overnight this weather front continues descending, moving south—east. some of the rain across southern scotland, northern england, wales will be heavy. won't quite reach the south—east and it will clear western scotla nd south—east and it will clear western scotland and northern ireland. not going to be a cold night, most of us
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in double figures. tomorrow the rain continues to push south, the heaviest likely to be in wales, gloucestershire, the midlands, not much if any getting into the fat south—east and as we move further north, writer tomorrow, with some showers but tomorrow there will be a noticeable gusty northerly wind. temperature lower, adding on the wind, feeling much cooler than it has done. from wednesday into thursday various fronts, watch how the wind appears, this northerly component, still going to feel pretty cool. in fact, on thursday itself going to be cloudy for ever you are. and we are also looking at the risk of showers, almost anywhere. still breezy, temperatures, you can see on the chance, between nine and 16 degrees. below average for this time of year. we have got way above average, then going below. by the time we get to friday, still a fair bit of cloud around, these weather fronts
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this is bbc news with the latest headlines for viewers in the uk and around the world. donald trump threatens to send thousands of soldiers onto the streets of the us to stop the violence, as he calls himself "the law and order president." if a city or state refuses to take the actions that are necessary to defend the life and property of their residents, then i will deploy the united states military and quickly solve the problem for them. reports a police officer in las vegas is shot during protests — his condition is unknown. here, ministers look at ways to relax the government's14—day travel quarantine for people coming into the uk because of potential damage to the travel industry.
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