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a re are a lot of different reasons there are a lot of different reasons for this but i also think it is to do with the death rate and it is to do with the death rate and it is to do with the death rate and it is to do with women move into lockdown and i would say that it makes a quite surprised that the front pages there are reports that unfortunately today, we reached a number of 40,000 deaths in the uk at least according to the government figures in the uk and suggesting that there may be more. this is incredibly concerning because that means that we are the second country in the world to reach over that figure and we are talking in numbers that can be incredibly cold and dehumanizing but that is 40,000 people, that's more than the combined death rate of the whole of europe. it makes sense that it's happening slowly differently but it's happening it at
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quite a fast pace given the rate of debt that we still have an advocate poses some serious questions about what is happened in the uk in terms of the government responses to coronavirus like test, track and trace and widespread testing and it really seems like something that something has gone wrong to their questions to ask about that. 40,000 of that been on the papers not all of that been on the papers not all of them and on the daily telegraph it is there an small red type, not every paper puts all of those numbers every day but there it is in the telegraph. it also talks about what you were talking about in terms of the r rate rising in the daily mail, this idea of localised lockdowns, one particular town or city might have a higher r rate that will force her to go into lockdown and not the whole country. that, in theory. we are told of the important thing that the r rate, we get
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figures about where the r rate is in countries and suggesting that is higher in the northwest and the southwest and so matt hancock at the press conference was asked how are you going to deal with this? does this mean that you are going to finally stop bringing local lockdowns and he suggested that the problem in the northwest is actually a challenge and that is something that could be quite possible there. but in the question is how do you do you do the whole region? and how do people respond to that? realm and into the lockdown together as a country. if you say to people in one area that you cannot do something while the rest of the country is starting to open up again, it will be interesting to see whether people stick to that or not? if you look at the entire island, there have already been three different ways of doing this, wales, england and northern ireland. but would it be practicalfor northern ireland. but would it be practical for liverpool to be cut off? with the people he signed a cordon around the cities in the
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northwest saying to people that they can't go there? do you know how the government would make that work?m terms of, i think we would all continue to be discouraged from travelling. my parents say i have no plans and unfortunately to go to newcastle anytime soon because i do not think it is a sensible thing to do. if you look at other countries, different structures of government, germany's medical structure and knowing germany, and speaking to my friend in berlin that these decisions are devolved and we have a different structures of government and looking at his localised lockdowns, i would stress that we have an incredibly high death rates still and compared to most of europe and compared to a lot of places around the world, if you look at denmark, it is used when we are looking at things like schools and reopening schools, but there've only been 586 deaths in denmark and that's still 586 people in the
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debate in comparison to the uk numbers. it is a much smaller. it is big question to ask this big country why, i do think going forward that looking at localised lockdowns will be necessary and it wasn't the consistent message coming out of this is we need to figure out how we did should be behaving in the path we ta ke did should be behaving in the path we take is necessary for that to be effective. your friend will be the next guest on the papers. he looked on the daily telegraph where we look at how we live in britain. the story here, green light for no fault quickly divorces. john stevens, it seems like the government is wanting to make divorcing slightly easier given the fact that potentially some people in lockdown might have found that it was not as easy to be what their partners as they once thought. yes, this is something governments been talking about for a while. making it easier to get divorced and
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it will change it so if it is a divorce they can get that sewn up within a few months but the backlash to this from some tory backbenchers, are concerned about the timing of this. they will vote on it on monday and it could come into force injuly but tory backbenchers are saying that marriages are under a lot of pressure thanks to coronavirus and the crisis that we have been going through and it is actually the best time to bring this into their concern is that we lead to a spate of people getting divorced who may regret it later on and rather than reducing it down to six months, i think people are suggesting that a period of nine months. interesting. is it better for people to have the freedom to divorce quickly after three months they spend in lockdown is like 30 years? was better to invest that time in the counselling services which may make them think they do not have to live the rest of their lives lockdown. and. they do not have to live the rest of their lives lockdown. andi they do not have to live the rest of their lives lockdown. and. i think
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this is a good question, i cannot speakfrom this is a good question, i cannot speak from experience this is a good question, i cannot speakfrom experience but i do not deny long—term processes is incredibly painful for the people involved and i think it is in the telegraph article that although there was some resistance from conservative benches that we can expect this to pass his liver support as well and pig makes sense that people were involved in the marriage and maybe they want to exercise precaution and get rural living in lockdown, i think people wa nt to living in lockdown, i think people want to get divorced and if they do, let them. will go to part two of the habits and we go to the times on saturday and plans to open up shop all day on sunday, we might remember that david cameron tried to do this and it failed. at the idea would be sunday trading and also accompanied by cafes and pups able to open up on the streets. getting rid of the
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restrictions and there will be open for six hours on a sunday and as maia says, if all stuff does go through on the labour backbenchers and even with some tory rebels, getting it through, there is a lot of feeling on the 20 backbenchers if they want this to happen, they will also have some people in the labour backbenchers, trade unions may be concerned about, is it right that people should be made to work on a sunday? you know, ithink one people should be made to work on a sunday? you know, i think one of the things that people have taken out this crisis is that some people have managed to get better work balance and to be simply what to expect people to start having to work more oi'i people to start having to work more on the sunday and i'm not sure that we do. the question is will they be able to get it through david cameron and 2016 but then suffered a massive defeat on this, sol and 2016 but then suffered a massive defeat on this, so i know someone who are on the cabinet may want to do this but it may be trickier to get practice. doesn't make sense
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instead of going to shop for six hours on sundays, to open shops or longer, which is safer in terms of physical social distancing? longer, which is safer in terms of physical social distancing ?|i longer, which is safer in terms of physical social distancing? i think of the one hand, john is right about will this actually pass and we need to wait and see and i think that there will be some real concern from there will be some real concern from the labour benches on the trade unions on what people, but the sentiment pay is and i remember, the government of the dates were used to be much higher on a sunday and that is not alljobs now, but i also think we should be thinking about the economy and as i mentioned earlier, we need to be thinking about the economy in a different way, centring people pay and their conditions and notjust going back to the same kind of bored insecure economy that we entered this into, which was bad for so many people. but i think we should be thinking about this, so peculiar to me to be splashing on this is a big way and although it is important, we are not
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leaving lockdown in their stomachs are concerned about the infection rate across the country and i don't wa nt to rate across the country and i don't want to be a broken record, but really treating this with caution andi really treating this with caution and i think it's really, really necessary as opposed to we'll obviously want to go back to some kind of normal, i think a new normal which would be betterfor kind of normal, i think a new normal which would be better for most people in this country in terms of inequality, but that cannot be done until we have until we - have i??? that the virus is being dealt with in and-guardians would
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