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this is bbc news with the latest headlines for viewers in the uk and around the world. the british government's policing minister says those who pulled down the statue of a slave trader in bristol were wrong to do so, and should be held accountable. we resolve these issues in this country not by people showing up with ropes and tools and committing criminal damage. we have to have a sense of order and democracy in the country. "subverted by thuggery" — boris johnson condemns those who clashed with police, saying they're betraying the black lives matters movement. when we have a lot of protests, you have skirmishes and we condemn that but let us not focus and yield to those who want to hijack the process. there are protests, people have a legitimate right to protest.
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in the us, a pledge to dismantle the minneapolis police department by the local council, as a response to the killing of george floyd. a legal challenge to new rules requiring people arriving in the uk to self—isolate for m days, which come into effect today. dentists can reopen from today in england, but they warn a shortage of ppe will lead to delays. new zealand lifts lockdown restrictions as it declares no active coronavirus cases for the first time since the outbreak began. a source close to prince andrew has declined to comment on media reports that us authorities have formally requested he answer questions over thejeffrey epstein affair.
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hello and welcome if you're watching in the uk or around the world — and stay with us for the latest news and analysis from here and across the globe. borisjohnson has said anti—racism protests in the uk this weekend were "subverted by thuggery" after some demonstrators clashed with the police. scotland yard said eight officers were injured yesterday after they were targeted with glass bottles and fireworks in london. 12 people were arrested. police in the city of bristol are continuing to investigate after a bronze statue of a 17th century slave trader was pulled down. sean dilly reports. chanting: take it down! a grand adornment to a slave trader stands no more, torn down by protesters in bristol, angry at all it symbolises. that statue represents years of oppression, it represents years of hurt and just a lot of emotion and hatred that has been built up inside of us, that we've internalised for years. and that coming down today, hopefully signifies change, hopefully we've sent a message not just to everyone in the uk
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or the usa, worldwide. edward colston was historically revered in bristol for his generosity to a city he called home. when he died in 1721, he left his fortune to good causes — a fortune he amassed by transporting and trading in slaves. now these protesters have forcibly removed his likeness, they hope in the process to consign his legacy to a watery grave. the actions have been condemned by the home secretary. that is utterly disgraceful and that speaks to the acts of disorder, public disorder that actually have now become a distraction from the cause in which people are actually protesting about. and it's right actually that police follow up on that and make sure that justice is taken, undertaken, with those individuals that are responsible for such disorderly and lawless behaviour.
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in the capital, this statue of wartime prime minister winston churchill was also targeted. as with the previous day's protests, the mood changed as the day drew to a close. police officers in less protective uniforms were replaced by public order specialists, wearing riot gear. this protester tried but failed to set this flag alight on the cenotaph, where the nation's war dead are honoured. by the end of the day, eight officers had been injured and 12 arrests had been made. the prime minister borisjohnson told his twitter followers that protests had been "subverted by thuggery" which betrayed their cause. chanting: being black is not a crime! the metropolitan police say the majority of protesters passed through the capital peacefully. elsewhere in the country, a similar peaceful atmosphere. we're doing the best we can today to make sure everyone is safe. really, it was important to me to make sure that while this was going ahead today that it was going to be as safe as it could be.
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in warwickshire, a busy stretch of the m6 motorway was closed off shortly after 6pm as protesters occupied the carriageway en route to coventry. the government says it will support peaceful protests so long as social distancing rules are observed, but with police investigations under way, they say the minority of those involved in violence and disorder should expect to account for their actions. sean dilley, bbc news. if you were at any of the protests across the uk, what was your experience? email victoria@bbc.co.cuk or message me on twitter. the policing minister, kit malthouse, has called for the prosecution of the demonstrators who brought down the statue of the 17th century slave trader in bristol. a crime was committed, criminal
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damage was committed, evidence should be gathered and prosecutions should be gathered and prosecutions should follow. there was an elected mayor of bristol, there was a council in bristol, and it is by those democratic means that we resolve these issues in this country, not by people showing up with ropes and tools and committing criminal damage. we have to have a sense of order and democracy in the country. and that's how we resolve our differences. that is how we sort these things out and that is what should have happened. raheem sterling has backed protests taking place across the uk. the england and manchester city forward said this to bbc two's newsnight. the only disease right now is the racism that we're fighting. i think right now, this is the most important thing, at this moment in time, because this is something that's been happening for years and years and just like the pandemic, we want to find something, a solution to stop it. and at the same time, this is what all these protesters are doing, they're trying to find a solution and a way to stop the injustice that they are seeing and they are fighting
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for their cause. let's turn to america now where there has been another weekend of protests following the death of the unarmed black man george floyd while he was being detained by police officers. the black lives matter demonstrations took place across the country and were mostly peaceful. a public memorial service will be held on monday afternoon for george floyd in houston, his home city. a private funeral will take place there on tuesday. the democratic presidential candidate joe biden will fly to houston for a private meeting with mr floyd's relatives. he's expected to send a video message to be played at the memorial. a little later, derek chauvin, the former minneapolis police officer who has been charged with second degree murder over mr floyd's death, is due to make his first appearance in court. and the city of minneapolis will start to work out how it will replace its police force after the city council voted to dismantle it in the wake of the george floyd killing. in an address to the protestors, minneapolis city council president lisa bender, emphasized the council's commitment
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to keep its community safe. our commitment is to do what is necessary to keep every single member of our community safe. it is to tell the truth, that the minneapolis police are not doing that. our commitment is to end our city's toxic relationship with the minneapolis police department, to end policing as we know it, and to recreate system is a public safety that actually keep us safe. let's speak now to pastor ingrid rasmussen, from the holy trinity lutheran church in south minneapolis. and also i'm joined byjesse ross, an outreach volunteer at sanctuary covenant church in north minneapolis. thank you for talking to us. i wonder what you think first of about
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this vote by the city council to dismantle the police force in your area? i think i couldn't have imagined this two weeks ago but i imagined this two weeks ago but i imagine that we are entering a time where as a city we realise that incremental changes to policing practices have failed. so it is time to plan something new. and in terms of what you have seen in minneapolis, the protests, tell us your experience. when the social u nrest your experience. when the social unrest began in south minneapolis, oui’ unrest began in south minneapolis, our church got a call asking if we would serve as a medic site for protesters who had been injured by tear and other things on the streets near the third precinct. for two nights we were in the middle of social unrest, uprising, buildings being burnt, and we were doing our best to serve the needs of those who we re best to serve the needs of those who were demanding change. jesse ross,
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what you think of the decision to dismantle the police force in your area? i agree, i don't thinkl dismantle the police force in your area? i agree, i don't think i would have believed it would have happened if you had asked me two weeks ago or two months ago, two years ago. but i think there should be some change. it has been a long time coming and i actually believe that there are certain communities particularly that community policing or community safety really means that where there are people from the community who are people from the community who are willing to step up and who may be best equipped, when you think about the history of police in our world, and where it kind of came from, it has been rooted in something that has been evil and used to oppress people for a long time. ithink used to oppress people for a long time. i think it is definitely time for a change. have you had looting
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and rioting in your neighbourhood? yes. but i want to make sure that the sound bite is not taken out of context. yes, that has happened. most of the fires that were created and businesses that were burned down we re and businesses that were burned down were not from people of colour, people from our neighbourhood and so what i have been trying to make sure people understand, even probably 15 minutes ago which is why i was almost late for this, there are groups of white supremacist that are riding around in neighbourhoods, specifically in north minneapolis but all over the city, who are trying to cause trouble and create stuff. there have been eyewitnesses who have seen white supremacists start buildings on fire and we believe most of those folks in north minneapolis who created those looting and rioting opportunities we re looting and rioting opportunities were not actually residents there. they were all white supremacists, we re they were all white supremacists, were they? i cannot confirm that, i just know that they were not all
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people of colour. sure. what can a neighbourhood do to protect themselves from that? the neighbourhood i live in has taken upon itself that community policing mode that i have suggested. there are people from the community, white and black, young and old, who have said, hey, this is our city and our community and we will not let somebody come in and tear it down. people have rallied behind the businesses and the neighbourhoods and created neighbourhood watch groups put some are armed, some and created neighbourhood watch gfoups put some are armed, some are unarmed, groups put some are armed, some are unarmed, all of the armed groups are definitely licensed and legal. but they have said, we will take our own stand and the police have supported them, the national guard at some point supported them and i have been pa rt of point supported them and i have been part of a team of people who have been working to get them flashlights and fire extinguishers and food so they can continue to do what they do
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best which is make sure our city remains safe. pastor ingrid, is it your view that white supremacists are responsible for the violence? absolutely. i think fear factor in south minneapolis really rose when we saw a white supremacist coming into the city. their actions were unpredictable to us and so we, like many in north minneapolis, also set up many in north minneapolis, also set up community groups that sat on the street corners in the middle of the night to ensure that blocks remained safe. what are your concerns over the next weeks and months? my concerns are that we will focus on the physical destruction that has resulted from the uprising rather than looking at the root causes of the uprising itself. i think as a
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community, we need to continue to focus on the fact that what we have seen focus on the fact that what we have seen unfold over the last ten days are simply symptoms of generations and generations of racial inequality in america. and if we can keep our focus and attention on that, i think we have the possibility of realising a change both in minneapolis and in greater minnesota and across the nation. would you echo that, jesse ross? you are worried that perhaps in the coming weeks and months this particular focus on in the coming weeks and months this particularfocus on some in the coming weeks and months this particular focus on some of the violence detracts from your cause? particular focus on some of the violence detracts from your cause ?|j would agree. i think that right now there has to be a focus on the laws that were created to continue to oppress people and keep communities
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thriving as such a so—called progressive place like minnesota and minneapolis has been. i think also my concern is that there are people across the city who don't have food, don't have access to medicine because the grocery stores or pharmacies were burned down. my concern is really how we get the needs of our people all across the city, how do we get them met and continue to make sure those needs are met six months to a year from now. thank you both very much for talking to us, we really appreciate it. jesse ross, who is an outreach volunteer in minneapolis and pastor ingrid rasmussen from a church in minneapolis. thank you. there's been criticism of police for not intervening when some protesters pulled down a statue of a 17th
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century slave trade and dragged it into the docks. our correspondent is where the statute was standing until yesterday. the plinth is sitting empty, clean have done a lot of tidying up but look at this plaque on the site which says, "erected by citizens of bristol as a memorial at one of the most virtuous and white sons of their city in 1895." most virtuous and white sons of their city in 1895. " many most virtuous and white sons of their city in 1895." many people objected deeply to it and you can see some of the placards are back this money, some have been taken away but more have been put here by people who feel that this city should not be honouring edward co nsta nt. should not be honouring edward constant. he was deeply involved in the slave trade more than 300 years ago with the transportation of tens of thousands of africans to the americas to work there. the name co nsta nt americas to work there. the name constant isn't just americas to work there. the name constant isn'tjust on this statue that was taken down yesterday —— edward colston. there is the base of
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the statue. whilst this has gone, you can see on the tower above us the name colston on the top because he was a philanthropist that gave a lot of money to the city and had a lot of money to the city and had a lot of money to the city and had a lot of things named after him. but for many years there has been controversy about the name, whether the statute should be taken down, if other places should be renamed. serving men marvin rees is someone who believes we should be moving away from it. i can tell you my feelings. they will be shared by many print i'm a mixed—race child of eight welsh english white woman and a black jamaican father. eight welsh english white woman and a blackjamaican father. way back when, one of my ancestors would have been taken on a ship from africa to the caribbean. that statue is an affront to me. and there is a plaque that describes him as a wise and virtuous son which is a double insult. it's not something that as a bristolian i would have looked on
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with pride and it has been a point of debate in the city about how and when, whether it should be there at all. the statue of course is now about a kilometre from here deep in bristol harbour. no sense of whether it will be removed from there anytime soon. i think everybody is certain it will be back on this place, some of the placards have been taken to a museum, whether at the statue might end up there... question is what action police may ta ke question is what action police may take a punt that we had pressure from the home secretary yesterday. police kept back, they said in order to avoid any greater confrontation and they feel that hands off approach was ultimately successful. but they are saying that this was an act of criminal damage and they are looking at footage of it but as yet there have been no arrests or charges made. we can speak now to bristol based musician and poet, solomon 0b, who gave a speech at yesterday's demonstration in bristol, in support of black lives matter.
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good morning. good morning, how are you? good morning. good morning, how are o good morning. good morning, how are you? i'm all right. how was it for you? i'm all right. how was it for you yesterday? amazing, the solidarity and the sense of community that came from it all, i wa nt to community that came from it all, i want to make it all that it was a very peaceful protest. take big issue to borisjohnson‘s comments of thuggery. for so long we have seen blackness equated with criminality andi blackness equated with criminality and i don't want this positive moment to be put in that direction. what should he have said in your view? that's not really for me to say. it is his words. what you wa nted say. it is his words. what you wanted to say? i want him to support a positive movement happening here. if you are about the betterment of people, you should be supporting any movement that is about the betterment of people which is essentially what yesterday is about. but there was violence, some police officers were hurt and there were
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some arrests, a minority of people. does that detract from the cause? no not in my opinion. i don't think we can take, what was it, 10,000 people? i don't think we can take a few individuals that acted out of character to the rest of the crowd and make the whole movement about that. again, we cannot take something that is inherently positive and about progress and change and make it marginalised. 10,000 in bristol, more in london, chester and wolverhampton and leicester, e—mails from people who took part all over the country in the uk, edinburgh, and obviously around the world. did you support the people who pulled down the statue? and chucked it into the docks? to be honest, i was at the backin docks? to be honest, i was at the back in the process so when i got to where the statute was it was already down. i'm sorry, i missed that,
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could you say that again?|j down. i'm sorry, i missed that, could you say that again? i was further back in the protest so i did not see it come down and by the time i got there it was on the floor. do you support what the people did?|j you support what the people did?” support people exercising their voice, i support people showing some civil disobedience if the course wa rra nts civil disobedience if the course warrants it. and i think the act itself speaks volumes as to how the people of this city feel about that statue. you walk part it going to work taking kids to school, it's a reminder, a celebration of racism. and i can understand completely why people do not want to see that.” wonder if the decision to bring it down could have been taken democratically? with reasoned argument? i wonder as well, but i
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don't... i argument? i wonder as well, but i don't. .. i can't argument? i wonder as well, but i don't... i can't really speak on that, to be honest. it has been controversial for years, hasn't it? people have tried and it was still there. and you have classicists like mary beard saying that we cannot erase our history. i take issue with that statement as well because i think the idea of a racing history when we're bringing it to the modern ta ke when we're bringing it to the modern take on it is not erasing history. people come back to 2020, they see colston hall add its name change and the statue was taken down, they will know why and that becomes a teaching in that moment. that bristol, the uk, the world is waking up to the history of racism and were trying to do things to correct that. i think if we keep in the mind state that we
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cannot erase history and that's the reason to keep racist symbolism in our face, reason to keep racist symbolism in ourface, i reason to keep racist symbolism in our face, i can't reason to keep racist symbolism in ourface, i can't work reason to keep racist symbolism in our face, i can't work with that. fairenough, our face, i can't work with that. fair enough, but it doesn't change what colston did, does it? no, nothing can change history but all we can do now is do our utmost to change the present and the future. i don't think shying away from it does anything for progress. and some people say that what happened yesterday gives a free pass to anyone to bring down a statue that i don't agree with. i would say that is very context —dependent, with the amount of motion around the globe right now, taking that into context in bristol, i don't think you can then legitimise anybody doing what
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they want to do, we can't take the actions of others and try to associate that with this movement. i would urge people to do your own research there is a load of stuff online, come find me and i can send you in the right direction. there is loads of things to give you a sense of what happened yesterday. thank you for to self—isolate for 1h days as part of the government's plans to slow the spread of the coronavirus. there are some exemptions to the scheme, but most travellers solomon 0b. will have to provide their contact details, or risk being fined. transport correspondent tom burridge has the details. leaving the uk from an airport like manchester has of late already been a different kind of experience, but, from today, before your temperature is checked in departures, you will have to fill in a form online, stating where you will self—isolate for two weeks when you return. the two—week quarantine period will definitely have an impact on us. you know, my partner works. he wouldn't be able to get extra time off. i'm a school teacher so i am
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limited to the time off that i do actually have, so it would definitely have a big impact, the 1a days. ten days abroad and then two weeks quarantine will be no good. i do not think the facemasks and gloves too much on a flight would bother us, it would be more at the other end, kind of, what social distancing measures were in, forthe kids. you know, if they can't play with the other kids, yeah, it defeats the point of the holiday, really. i certainly wouldn't feel safe travelling right now. it is a terrible idea. i think that the restrictions were already lifted far too quickly and putting people at risk. so we should not be travelling right now. the quarantine applies to most people arriving in the uk. 0nly arrivals from the republic of ireland are exempt, as well as certain professions, like oil and gas workers, and lorry drivers. the enforcement rules depend on where you live. at the moment, a pretty small number of flights go in and out of airport
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each day but airlines are desperate to crank up scheduled in time for the summer and that is why the travel sector is demanding that deals are done with countries with lower infection rates. so travellers from their would be exempt. we think, as the airline community, that there's a decent number of countries, mainly across europe but further afield, where there is sufficient passenger demand. so we now need the government to, really with a degree of urgency, work with foreign governments to set up these air bridges as quickly as possible because otherwise we are not going to have a summer season here. now the parent company of british airways has launched legal proceedings. it claims the government has failed to identify a valid justification for a blanket quarantine. it has the support of easyjet and ryanair, and dozens of travel and hospitality companies. but the government says the new restriction will limit the risk of new cases being imported and it argues it will help stop a second wave of the virus. tom burridge, bbc news.
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0ur correspondence has spent the morning at amsterdam should pull airport. this is one of europe's busiest travel hubs although you would not necessarily guess it by looking at the scene today. i've had a quick scan of the departures board and nine flights are heading from this airport to the uk and the first one departs for heathrow in about a minute. you can see some of the extra measures in place, some footprints on the floor to give a guide for social distancing. you will see a lot of people are wearing face masks but they are not actually required in the airport, only at stages in the journey where it is impossible to maintain that social distancing. there are some
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exemptions for essential medical workers and road haulage workers. i spoke to someone who had been at sea for eight weeks and he had an exemption with multiple forms. a lot of people are travelling for various reasons but they are carrying so much paperwork and are aware of the fa ct much paperwork and are aware of the fact that if they go to the uk it will be 1a days of quarantine and a fine of up to 1000 euros if they fail to isolate in england. sorry, £1000 in the uk. if they return to benevolence, they would also be asked to quarantine here for another 14 asked to quarantine here for another 1a days because as far as the dutch
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government is concerned, sweden and uk are still areas of greater risk. regarding the statue of edward colston that was brought down yesterday in bristol, labour leader sir keir starmer has said this, "it should not have been done in that way. completely wrong to pull down a statue like that stepping back, the statute should have been taken down a long time ago. you cannot in 21st—ce ntu ry a long time ago. you cannot in 21st—century britain have a slave trader on a statue." he was talking to uk radio station lbc. robert says the reason that statue was removed is because it shouldn't have been there. it was promoting him as a great son of bristol when all he gave was the misery of slavery. the council should have removed it years ago. cecil rhodes will be next. robert says he is a white 70—year—old man. gordon says, no,
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the statue is a step too far ponder if you want it removed there are ways and means. we cannot tolerate this hooliganism. gwen says, as a mother of two micro black boys says that she was scared when they said they were attending the protest i was appalled by the hijacking of what was meant to be peaceful protest, says another. many police officers were injured. how does this help? if you went to one of the protest over the weekend, let me know. send us an e—mail. message me on twitter. what was your experience? new zealand is set to lift most of the remaining covert
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restrictions after the government announced there were no active cases in the country. it brought in some of the toughest restrictions of the world back in march. from sydney, here is phil mercer. life in new zealand will - to resemble what it was before the pandemic. under alert level one, physical distancing will still be encouraged but if there will be no restrictions on businesses or the number of people allowed at gatherings. its international borders will stay closed, however. reconnecting new zealand with the rest of the world remains a big challenge. it has had no new covid—19 infections for 17 days. the prime minister, jacinda ardren, says the country of 5 million people has come together to defeat the disease. new zealanders did something remarkable in our fight to beat covid—19. we united and
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unprecedented ways across the virus. we acknowledge those however that we have lost during the course of our battle against covid—19. but we have worked together as well as we could to look after as many new zealanders as possible. the government is desperate to revive the economy after weeks of some of the world's toughest lockdown measures. 0pposition politicians say the prime minister was too slow to remove most of the last remaining restrictions, but they concede it is a day of celebration. you may now kiss your beautiful... authorities are urging new zealanders to remain vigilant, stressing the global pandemic will linger, with a second wave is a co nsta nt linger, with a second wave is a constant reality. phil mercer, bbc news, sydney. hello, this is bbc news with victoria derbyshire.
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the headlines: the uk policing minister says those who pulled down a statue of a slave trader in bristol were wrong to do so and should be held accountable. we resolve these issues in this country not by people showing up with ropes and tools and committing criminal damage. we have to have a sense of order and democracy in the country. subverted by thuggery, borisjohnson condemns those who clashed with police, saying they are —— betraying the black lives matter movement. when you have a lot of protests you have skirmishes and we condemn that. but let us not focus and yield to those who want to hijack the process. there are protests p. people have legitimate right to protest. in the us, it pledged to dismantle the minneapolis police department by the minneapolis police department by the local council in response to the killing of george floyd. a legal challenge to new rules requiring people arriving in the uk
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to self—isolate for 1h days, which comes in today. dentists can reopen today in england but they warn a shortage of ppe will lead to delays. and as we have just been hearing from phil mercer, new zealand left its lockdown restrictions as it declares no active coronavirus cases for the first time since the outbreak began. a source close to prince andrew has declined to comment on media reports that american authorities have formally requested he answered questions over the jeffrey formally requested he answered questions over thejeffrey epstein affair. one of the uk's leading addiction charities says they're expecting an increase in demand for its addiction services when the lockdown ends. research from action on addiction and you gov has found that a significant number of people in recovery have relapsed during the pandemic. people with drug and alcohol addictions are amongst some of the most severely affected, as michael cowan reports.
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it is hard with lockdown. just because of the boredom, the isolation. you got extra time to think. when i'm in lockdown left to myself. my head gets really loud and i'm not comfortable in my own skin. i relapse. when i first gave up drinkingi i relapse. when i first gave up drinking i was in a terrible state. ido drinking i was in a terrible state. i do not want to go through that again. i have been soberfor three yea rs again. i have been soberfor three years and since lockdown this is the first time my sobriety has been severely tested. research given to the bbc by action on addiction taken from a small sample of respondents suggests almost 40% of those in recovery prior to lockdown have relapsed or seen a recurrence in addictive behaviour. a quarter of adults with an addiction but not in recovery prior to coronavirus say they've increased the amount of alcohol they are drinking since lockdown began, while 24% of those surveyed said they will need treatment or support
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to resolve their issues when the lockdown ends. lockdown can be difficult for many of us, both physically and mentally, but for some with active addictions or in recovery, this time can be particularly challenging. sophie is 25 years old. she's been in recovery from an alcohol addiction since october last year, but lockdown has tested her resolve to its limits. i've had one slip—up since lockdown, just because of the boredom, the isolation. you've got extra time to think. what impact has social media had on your drinking? always seeing people on snapchat, instagram, facebook, drinking. is there a support network you can reach out to? so my drug and alcohol worker and family and friends, tell them that you are craving a drink, tell them that you feel like you want to drink.
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then they can talk it through to you. 0ne place that has managed to stay open throughout this crisis is clouds house, a treatment centre in wiltshire. anya sparks is their treatment manager. there are staff members and clients coming to the building. we ask them to come into our waiting room and check their temperature. this needs to be done daily. there are sanitisers and hand washing equipment. we have ensured that all the seating in this area is at least two metres apart. have you seen many referrals as a direct result of lockdown? we may see almost the opposite of that in that coronavirus has ina opposite of that in that coronavirus has in a way stop to people from reaching out. they are feeling as if they are not sure if they want to come in somewhere where there are lots of other people. i think it's important to continue to reach out ina important to continue to reach out in a general way. don't be afraid to
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let people know when you are finding it difficult. the government pledged £335,000 to support specialist addiction charities through the pandemic, but with many people expected to need help post lockdown, it's unclear in the long—term how that demand will be managed and if the government's autumn spending review can provide further funding. michael cowan, bbc news. i'm joined now by graham beech, chief executive of action on addiction. good morning to you. good morning. how big an issue is this going to be in terms of demand for the kind of things you do as we come out of lockdown? the survey that yougov have developed for us shows a number of concerns about people who are drinking more and some of them are saying that they will need help in order to deal with problems associated with that behaviour going forward , associated with that behaviour going forward, but also, as your package has shown, we are seeing lots of
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difficulties for people who are in recovery and are either struggling with relapse or worrying about struggling with relapse. what that means is that our enquiries are going up in relation to lockdown, but also we're expecting a spike in demand when lockdown ends. some of the problems associated with relapse and some of the problems associated with problem drinking and other forms of predicted —— addictive behaviour, is that it will put pressure on front line services and services that deal with relationships, family and other problems being reported in the poll. why would this kind of crisis lead to this —— to people relapsing? why would this kind of crisis lead to this -- to people relapsing? what we know about addiction is that addiction thrives on isolation. there is no better condition for addiction to grow and to ferment than when people are isolated. if you add to that of the pressures
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that people face during covert. then one thing leads to another. there is a pressure to default to previous behaviour. what we are hearing are some fantastic stories of how community groups and community recovery support groups are going online. so it is possible to get that help and support. but for people who are in recovery, particularly in the early stages of recovery, very intensive and extensive support in the community is not so available because of lockdown. and so they are going to be wanting to reach out. the department of health say they recognise how challenging the pandemic has been for many people. drug and alcohol treatment centres have been working hard to adapt to maintain vital support. we have
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additional support, maintain vital support. we have additionalsupport, including maintain vital support. we have additional support, including to meet the specific public health needs of local populations, and have also allocated £335,000 to specialist addiction and recovery services. they will be able to increase provision. what do you say to that and is it enough? we need to look beyond the coronavirus response. we know that funding for addiction —related services has reduced by 27% over the last three yea rs. we reduced by 27% over the last three years. we also know from our server that we are notjust years. we also know from our server that we are not just talking years. we also know from our server that we are notjust talking about alcohol and drug addiction here. the problems of addiction are growing in volume and complexity. and we are now dealing with a number of behaviours related to gambling, to gaming, to sex addiction and other forms of addiction which are not in step with the policy environment at the moment. and so what we are also
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hearing are particular problems about families and young people, and there is a paucity of support for children and young people who are affected by addiction and also showing signs of early onset addictive behaviour. and so what we need is a large scale rethink of how we respond to addiction, so that there are more early intervention is an early supporters for young people, more family focused interventions, more investment in addiction wide services, and promotion of the community recovery kind of supports that are happening day in, day out around us, online at the moment and in person when lockdown eases. can i ask you finally about people who may not feel they are addicted to alcohol, for example, but have found during the crisis they are in isolation or they are followed, for example, they
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are perhaps having a drink slightly earlier in the day, perhaps drinking more days than they would normally. is that something to worry about? the majority of people may well not be following an addiction. where it will become a matter of concern is that they exhibit symptoms which may affect their physical or emotional side. if they are starting to show signs of forming an all—consuming relationship with that behaviour and all that substance. some of the people that we deal with at action 0n addiction, they do have a relationship with alcohol or other substances, or other behaviours that they find, or are beginning to find, more important than their family, that their work, that their friends.
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and it becomes all consuming, often to mask other kinds of problems that may be deep rooted. at the work we do is to work on relationships, not only with the behaviour, relationships with people around them, but also relationship with the person themselves. thank you very much. thanks for coming on. and if you want to get help with any issues to do with alcohol or drugs or addiction issues, please go to our website. hundreds of anti—government protesters in brazil have staged a demonstration against racism and against their president after his handling of the coronavirus pandemic. last week brazil's death toll overtook italy blood —— italy's. it is expected to become the second highest in the uk after the second highest in the uk after the uk in the next couple of days. he was on has been accused of trying
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to hide the true numbers. —— the brazilian government. black lives matter in brazil too. but here the president's handling of coronavirus is enraging protesters. a leader they say who is threatening the country's democracy. in the past week alone 150,000 people have caught covid—19 and 7000 have died. but that is information the government does not want people to now. it is white those figures from its website because it says they are manipulated. behind those numbers are real people. try to control a virus that is still spreading. "it's like a snowball," helio says. "the cases keep rising, people get infected. "this never ends." karine is also on the front line, receiving death registers in sao paulo. half of the names in this book, she says, were covid—19 related deaths. and far more people than usual have died from respiratory problems, too.
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many people put that down to underreporting the real coronavirus figures. i'm feeling like a soldier in a war. i need to receive the information. i need to have good eyes and a smile, to make my public service, while i'm feeling that everybody‘s very, very worried about the disease. brazil only tests around 5% of what most of europe does. the country has struggled on many fronts — part of the problem's legistic, the labs are in the south and safely transporting tests from areas such as the amazon is not always successful. many tests have been ruined. but the government has also made bad choices. in february, march, for example, there was a huge flood of chinese tests arriving in brazil. and nine of the 11
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were completely garbage. the governmentjust did not do anything. theyjust bought the kits and distributed that. they thinking, well, it is better to do that with these kits instead of doing nothing, but that is not true. in this affluent part of sao paulo, the local government's trying something different. it wants to get a third of the population tested. about 600 cars are coming through every day. people are getting their details checked. only those who work or live in the city can get the test done, and that takes place over here. now, the idea is that the local government wants to get an idea of how far along the curve it is, how big a problem it is in this part of the city. but doctors here are feeling deflated. with a president who's failing to lead this country through a worsening crisis, they feel undervalued. translation: i think this is still the country of football. i've nothing against football, far from it, but education and health, which need to be prioritised,
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are not. 0n the ground, health care workers keep going to battle against coronavirus. but the battle against censorship has only just begun. katy watson, bbc news, in sao paulo. the sun newspaper reports this morning that the us has demanded that britain hand over prince andrew to be questioned about his links to a convicted paedophilejeffrey epstein. the paper says he could be forced to appear in a british court within weeks. i have been speaking to our royal correspondent. we are waiting for confirmation from either the department ofjustice in the us, which is not giving any comment or from the home office. but the sun newspaper is reporting the department ofjustice has put in a request for what is called mutual legal assistance. and this would effectively force prince andrew either to give a voluntary written
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statement or an oral statement, or if he refused to do that, forced him to turn up at a magistrates' court and answer questions about what he knows about jeffrey epstein, and answer questions about what he knows aboutjeffrey epstein, the disgraced financier who was also a convicted paedophile, with whom prince andrew was friends for quite a few years, and around whom allegations have swirled ever since, both the conviction and the friendship with prince andrew. prince andrew has said, since he stepped down from royal duties last year, that he would help with the appropriate legal authorities, or cooperate with the appropriate legal authorities, but there has been some very public anions from lawyers in new york, from public prosecutors in new york, from public prosecutors in new york. one said there had been zero cooperation from prince andrew. and if this is confirmed to be true, and other elements are saying the home office is giving confirmation
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off the record, if it is confirmed to be true, this is another step towards drawing prince andrew into having to give some kind of statement as to what he knew about jeffrey epstein and all the allegations that surround him. jonny dymond. the chinese company huawei has urged the british government to use and evidence and fa ct government to use and evidence and fact —based approach before deciding whether to exclude it from the uk's sg whether to exclude it from the uk's 5g network. the company has launched an advertising campaign in a bid to underline its commitment to britain. fearing an upcoming security review could result on number 10 backtracking on the network. dentists in england are able to reopen today, although not all are going to be able to do that. some are welcoming patients back, but other practices blame a lack of ppe for staying shut. dan johnson other practices blame a lack of ppe for staying shut. danjohnson has been to one practice in essex that is opening its doors. the lucky patients of this practice at least have the possibility
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of seeing a dentist which will not be an option for everybody but there is still work to do to get it ready. they have been trying to put measures in place before seeing some patients this afternoon. you can see the temperature scanner that will be used for every patient that comes in. the waiting room actually will stay empty because the reality is that patients will be brought in one at a time, you will have to wait outside and will not be even allowed to go to the toilet and the dentist will have to use loads of extra protective equipment to keep people safe. that has been the hurdle that has kept some practices closed. emma is one of the hygienists here. how has it been for the last few weeks not being able to see patients? it has been really difficult, we have a lot of patients e—mailing and calling us and asking for their routine hygiene appointments but due to the amount of aerosol we produce we're doing the polishing, it's something we cannot physically do at the moment. we have to wait an hour between appointments where we are usually back to back. the amount of patients we can see has been cut down to about a third
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and in combination with a cost of the ppe, it means that the hygiene appointments are not financially viable at the moment and it has been a very difficult hurdle to get over. it isjust emergencies at the moment? you won't be seeing anybody for the routine care? no, not for a routine care. we will try to help patients in pain and discomfort but because we cannot produce the aerosols, it means a lot of what we would normally do to help a patient, we physically cannot do. and you think what you do might not even be possible under the new model, you won't be able to make model? with the current guidelines, it is proving really difficult. the scaling and polishing and the ultrasonic scaler we normally use to get as much build—up off as possible is something we have been limited on using, and they are saying you need to just hand scale and that's actually really difficult, to see a large volume of patients by doing that. it put a toll on the hygienists as well.
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thank you for now. they would normally see about 160 patients in a day here because there are eight dentists but to give you an idea of why they can only see about ten, if we look in here, this is a ppe preparation station now with one of the dentists, pola. took us through the sort of equipment you will have to wear. there's a lot of kit. we have the gowns and hair nets and masks, aprons. it is quite intense and there is a lot to wear and it can get quite uncomfortable and hot. with a cool day today, it's not too bad but with summer coming, it will be even more uncomfortable permit we cannot use the air conditioning unit so it will get even hotter. it's all about stopping the spread of the virus and keeping patients safe? it is to keep us safe and the patients safe also to treat them as much as we can in this difficult time. what will it be like? the waiting lists won't go down? they are probably going up.
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it is getting even more busy and the phones have started already calling so much but we will see what we can do and do our best with the patients. thank you for your time and letting us be had to get an insight into what the reality of dentistry will actually be. this is one of about a third of practices across england that is even able to open with two thirds saying they don't have the right numbers are protective equipment and some of the costs of that equipment, dentists are saying it has gone up 6000%. a spokesperson at the department of health said, "we're working round the clock to make sure front line health care staff have the protective equipment they need and we have made further supplies are available to the dental sector by wholesalers last week." it has not come in time for every practice to reopen today and the warning is that even if your dentist is starting to see patients, it will only be possible this week at least the most urgent cases.
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danjohnson. dan johnson. small weddings and civil partnerships are allowed to ta ke civil partnerships are allowed to take place outside in northern ireland from today. large retailers, including car showrooms and electrical stores, will also be opening for business. vulnerable people are advised to shield will also be allowed outdoors. the prince of wales has praised teachers in schools for going above and beyond for their pupils during this crisis. in a video he paid tribute to parents as well, saying he couldn't imagine how difficult the lockdown has been for young families. pa rents families. parents have done an astonishing job in such trying circumstances, and to see teachers and school going above and beyond for their pupils in response to this pandemic has been in many instances quite remarkable. from finding creative ways to teach lessons remotely, and even making
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sure the most vulnerable children do not go without meals, we all of them a huge debt of gratitude. the prince of wales. you are watching bbc news. it is time for the weather. here is carol. hello again. if you are looking for some more rain in the forecast, there is some more this week. if you don't get any, the chances you will see some showers. some showers to be had today. a fairly cloudy day with some bright spells here and there. a little bit of sunshine. you can see on the satellite how much cloud there is across the uk. that will continue right the way through the course of the afternoon. still some showers
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coming out of that cloud. some will be sharp and thundery across south wales and south west england. we could see some across northern ireland, north of scotland, clipping the north—east coastline. it will be fairly breezy and a chilly breeze at that. but inland, with temperatures getting up to around 17 or 18 at best. as we head through this evening and overnight we are looking atafair evening and overnight we are looking at a fair bit of cloud. showers eventually fading. some clear skies. towards the end of the night of the cloud will be thick enough across northern ireland and western scotland, heralding the arrival of our next weather front. temperatures falling to about six in aberdeen and nine in cardiff. not quite as cold a night as the one that has just gone. tomorrow we pick up this band of rain. it will be accompanied by a brisk wind. and it will be moving west to east across scotland. at times it will also clip northern ireland, where you will have a fairly cloudy day. fairly cloudy
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across england and wales, with some sunny intervals. showers in northern england, north wales and central and southern england as well. as we move from tuesday into wednesday, the first half of the weather front continues to drift east across scotland, the second half syncs south across england and wales and low pressure develops across england and wales. on wednesday morning, the cloud and rain moving across scotland. here it is moving south across england and wales. some of it could be heavy. i had of it we will see some showers. they could be sharp and potentially thundery. temperatures 11 to 17 degrees north to south. by the time we get to thursday, that low pressure will have deepened, bringing some persistent rain across the south—western corner of the uk. we will also have another band of rain following behind, a brisk wind, but drier in scotland and northern ireland. wherever you are, it will feel cool.
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this is bbc news with the latest headlines for viewers in the uk and around the world. the british government's policing minister says those who pulled down the statue of a slave trader in bristol were wrong to do so, and should be held accountable. we resolve these issues in this country not by people showing up with ropes and tools and committing criminal damage. we have to have a sense of order and democracy in the country. "subverted by thuggery" — boris johnson condemns those who clashed with police, saying they're betraying the black lives matters movement. when we have a lot of protests, you have skirmishes and we condemn that but let us not focus and yield to those who want to hijack the process. there are protests, people have a legitimate right to protest.
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in the us, a pledge to dismantle the minneapolis police department by the local council, as a response to the killing of george floyd. a legal challenge to new rules requiring people arriving in the uk to self—isolate for 1h days, which come into effect today. dentists can reopen from today in england, but they warn a shortage of ppe will lead to delays. new zealand lifts lockdown restrictions as it declares no active coronavirus cases for the first time since the outbreak began. a source close to prince andrew has declined to comment on media reports that us authorities have formally requested he answer questions over thejeffrey epstein affair.
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hello and welcome if you're watching in the uk or around the world — and stay with us for the latest news and analysis from here and across the globe. borisjohnson has said anti—racism protests in the uk this weekend were "subverted by thuggery" after some demonstrators clashed with the police. scotland yard said eight officers were injured yesterday after they were targeted with glass bottles and fireworks in london. 12 people were arrested. police in the city of bristol are continuing to investigate after a bronze statue of a 17th century slave trader was pulled down. sean dilly reports. we report on the protests in the us inafew we report on the protests in the us in a few minutes, but first, this report on the demonstrations in the uk. chanting: take it down! a grand adornment to a slave trader stands no more, torn down by protesters in bristol, angry at all it symbolises. that statue represents years of oppression,
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it represents years of hurt and just a lot of emotion and hatred that has been built up inside of us, that we've internalised for years. and that coming down today, hopefully signifies change, hopefully we've sent a message not just to everyone in the uk or the usa, worldwide. edward colston was historically revered in bristol for his generosity to a city he called home. when he died in 1721, he left his fortune to good causes — a fortune he amassed by transporting and trading in slaves. now these protesters have forcibly removed his likeness, they hope in the process to consign his legacy to a watery grave. the actions have been condemned by the home secretary. that is utterly disgraceful and that speaks to the acts of disorder, public disorder that actually have now become a distraction from the cause in which people are actually protesting about. and it's right actually that police follow up on that and make sure that justice is taken,
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undertaken, with those individuals that are responsible for such disorderly and lawless behaviour. in the capital, this statue of wartime prime minister winston churchill was also targeted. as with the previous day's protests, the mood changed as the day drew to a close. police officers in less protective uniforms were replaced by public order specialists, wearing riot gear. this protester tried but failed to set this flag alight on the cenotaph, where the nation's war dead are honoured. by the end of the day, eight officers had been injured and 12 arrests had been made. the prime minister borisjohnson told his twitter followers that protests had been "subverted by thuggery" which betrayed their cause. chanting: being black is not a crime! the metropolitan police say the majority of protesters passed through the capital peacefully. elsewhere in the country, a similar peaceful atmosphere. we're doing the best we can today to make sure everyone is safe.
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really, it was important to me to make sure that while this was going ahead today that it was going to be as safe as it could be. in warwickshire, a busy stretch of the m6 motorway was closed off shortly after 6pm as protesters occupied the carriageway en route to coventry. the government says it will support peaceful protests so long as social distancing rules are observed, but with police investigations under way, they say the minority of those involved in violence and disorder should expect to account for their actions. sean dilley, bbc news. raheem sterling has backed protests taking place across the uk. the england and manchester city forward said this to bbc two's newsnight. the only, you know, disease right now is the racism we are fighting. i think this, right now, is the most important thing at this moment in time. because this is something that
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has been happening for years and yea rs, has been happening for years and years, and, you know, just like the pandemic, we want to find something, a solution to stop it. and at the same time, this is what all these protesters are doing. they are trying to find a solution and a way to stop the injustice that they are seeing, and they are fighting for their cause. let's turn to america now, there has been another weekend of protests following the death of the unarmed black man george floyd while he was being detained by a police officer. the black lives matter demonstrations took place across the country and were mostly peaceful. a public memorial service will be held on monday afternoon for george floyd in houston, his home city. a private funeral will take place there on tuesday. the democratic presidential candidate joe biden will fly tuesday. the democratic presidential candidatejoe biden will fly to histon for a private meeting with george floyd's relatives. —— to houston. he is expected to record a message to be played at his memorial to stop the minneapolis police
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officer who has been charged with second—degree murder, over mr fli's death, derek chauvin, is expected to make an appearance in court. —— over mr floyd's death. the city of minneapolis has voted to dismantle its police force in the wake of the killing of george floyd. the city council president lisa bender emphasised the council's commitment to keeping its community say. our commitment to do what's necessary to keep every single member of our community safe and to tell the truth that the minneapolis police are not doing that. cheering and applause arrow commitment is to end city's toxic relationship with the minneapolis police department, to end policing as we know it, and to recreate systems of public safety that actually keep us safe. —— our commitment. most people arriving in the uk will
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now have to self—isolate for 1h days as part of the government's plans to slow the spread of coronavirus. there are some exemptions to the scheme, 42, in fact. there are some exemptions to the scheme, 42, infact. but there are some exemptions to the scheme, 42, in fact. but most travellers will have to provide their contact details or risk being fined. our transport correspondent has the details. leaving the uk from an airport like manchester has of late already been a different experience, but from today, before your temperature is checked in departures, you will have to fill in a form online stating where you will be self isolating for two weeks when you return. the two week quarantine period will definitely have an impact on us. my partner works, he would be able to get extra time off, i'm a schoolteacher, so i'm limited to the time offi schoolteacher, so i'm limited to the time off i do actually have, so it would be a big impact will stop —— he would not be able to get extra time. two weeks quarantine... i
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don't think the facemasks on the site would bother us, it would be more on the other end, what social distancing measures were in for the kids, if they can't play with the other kids, then, yeah, it defeats the point of the holiday, really.” certainly would not feel safe travelling right now. it's a terrible idea. ithink travelling right now. it's a terrible idea. i think the restrictions are already lifted far too quickly in putting people at risk, so we should not be travelling right now. the quarantine applies to most people arriving in the uk. in the arrivals from the republic of ireland are exempt, as well as certain professions like oil and gas workers and lorry drivers. at the moment, it's pretty small number of flights go in and out of our airports each day, but airlines are desperate to crank up their schedules in time for the summer, that's why the travel sector is demanding that deals are done with countries with lower infection rates. some travellers from their are exempt, too. we think that there
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isa are exempt, too. we think that there is a decent number of countries, mainly across europe but also further afield, where there is sufficient passenger demand, so we now need the government to really, with a degree of urgency, work with other governments as quickly as possible, because otherwise we are not going to have a summer season here. now the parent company of british airways has launched legal proceedings. it claims the government has failed to identify a valid justification for a blanket quarantine. it has the support of easyj et quarantine. it has the support of easyjet and rya nair and quarantine. it has the support of easyjet and ryanair and dozens of travel and hospitality companies. but the government says the new restriction will limit the risk of new cases being imported and it argues that it will help stop a second wave of the virus.
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our correspondent has spent the morning at amsterdam schiphol airport. this is one of europe's busiest travel hubs that you would not necessarily get it looking at the scene here today. i've had a look at the departures were, nine flights heading from this airport to the uk today, and the first one departs for heathrow in about a minute's time. you can see some of the extra measures in place here, some footprints on the floor to give a guide for social distancing, in fa ct, guide for social distancing, in fact, you will see a lot of people are wearing face masks but there are not actually required in the airport, only at points during the journey where it's impossible to maintain that level of social distancing. and, of course, there are some exemptions for essential medical workers, and i wasjust speaking to one young chap he had been at sea for eight weeks and he said that he had an exemption, he showed me multiple forms, and there area
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showed me multiple forms, and there are a lot of people travelling today for various reasons but they are carrying so much paperwork, aware of the fact that if they travel to the uk, it will be 1a days of quarantine, a fine of up to 1000 euros if they fail to isolate, self—isolate in england, in the uk, if they do return to the netherlands, in fact, they will also be asked to quarantine again here for another 1a days because as far as the dutch government is concerned, sweden and the uk are still areas of greater risk. let's get some reaction from tony smith, the former head of the uk border force. thank you forjoining us. today the union representing uk bf staff have said the rules are complex and are somewhat available to those on the front line. our staff going to be ready for this?”
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think the border force can manage this provided that the volume stay relatively low, as your report shows, there are very few people travelling at the moment, the border force are capable of recording addresses from people, we've done that for a long time. so i think from a spot check basis, it's possible. i don't think, though, it will be durable in the long term. when you consider we were getting 130 million odd arrivals in uk ports before the virus, it simply would not be workable if we were to return to those levels. so i do think this isa to those levels. so i do think this is a short—term fix to protect the public, but there will have to be a long—term plan put into place. public, but there will have to be a long-term plan put into place. one aspect also raised but earlier by the immigration services union is that there is no system properly for checking the information given to the border force staff. checking the addresses, the names, unless someone
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puts something that is really blindingly obviously a joke, they can't properly verify it. is that true? well, we don't routinely check addresses now when people give us an addresses now when people give us an address on their visa form to see if they living there or not. i think they living there or not. i think the point about the address is you're also going to be providing your seat and flight number, and we need to be able to contact you in case somebody who was on your flight has contracted the virus afterwards, you would probably want to know. so this is a public health measure. it's not necessarily all about enforcement, it's about trying to give people information when travelling, if you have been in contact with somebody on the same flight contact with somebody on the same flight as you coming from amsterdam, you would want to know that. if you don't give us the right address we will not be able to tell you. that goes some way to answering the next point i was going to put you, which is that the boss of ryanair says he thinks this is a joke because people are going to be giving mobile phone numbers and they could be anywhere when they are actually contacted. well, of course they could, but that happens now that the uk border and
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in my experience, i've worked there for a0 years, 99% of the time the ta blet for a0 years, 99% of the time the tablet public are —— travelling public are compliant, what we need to do is enable them to comply and give us the correct information and then move onto this to the next long—term plan, and there i do agree with airlines, we need a broader conversation about how we can manage health potential in future is the airline system and the international reservation systems to help inform the border force rather than a manual process like this. i think it's a first stage but i want to see the border force rather than a manual process like this. i think it's a first stage but i want to see the borders opened as well as everybody does. we all want to go on holiday. but it is a public that the government has introduced and it's important we remember that. do you understand why it's been done now and not previously? i think the reasoning is that we, you know, there is a belief that we are now starting to get the virus under control. we can look back in hindsight and say perhaps we should have done this earlier but many
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countries were not able to shut their bodies quickly enough before this virus is spread. we were not alone in that. some countries did well, some more remote countries like new zealand, singapore, that don't get the same volumes, we can look back with hindsight but i think we need a new dawn here. there will bea we need a new dawn here. there will be a new dawn here for travel, it's really important that we work with industry and hunt a new solution which will involve some kind of health parcel i think, or a health credential —— have passport or credential —— have passport or credential that you would submit with your passport and visa credential, is the way future borders are going. there's work to be done but i think there's light at the end of the tunnel. does it undermine the system when there are so many exemptions? a2 exemptions and of course there is no reason why people in those categories might not be carrying the virus, the same as anyone else. i think there are issues about the exemption, because asi issues about the exemption, because as i understand it, even those exempt still have to fill out forms
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and many of our own officers go across daily, they don't have to self—isolate but still have to fill out the form, and some of the rail in venice are saying they have drivers going across seven or eight times a day. —— some of the real companies are saying. all the more reason, i think, companies are saying. all the more reason, ithink, to companies are saying. all the more reason, i think, to say we do need to work with industry to find a solution. and we may find that the exemptions will be extended to specific routes, specific orders on specific routes, specific orders on specific sites. thank you. the policing minister kit malthouse has condemned protesters in bristol who toppled a statue of a 17th century slave trader yesterday. he said it was an act of criminal damage and those involved should be investigated and prosecuted. well, crime was committed, criminal damage was committed. there should be evidence gathered and prosecution should follow. there was an elected
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mayor of bristol, a council bristol, and it's by these democratic means we resolve issues in this country, not by people showing up with ropes and tools and committing criminal damage. we have to have a sense of order and democracy in the country, and that's how we resolve our differences, that's how we sort things out, and that's what should have happened. the director of britain's leading black newspaper said the violence was regretful but did not harm the protest. i would not say distracts from the cause, looking at what happened in bristol, until yesterday, many people did not know who edward colston was. they did not know that he was involved in the slave trade. they didn't know that his ships transported 80,000 africans to the americas for slavery. and although he gave to bristol, it was really blood money. and when you look at the statue, and the inscription on it, it was to a
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virtuous and a wise man. what virtuous and a wise man. what virtuous and a wise man. what virtuous and wise man would be involved in the slavery? and important is the fact that the people of bristol have been calling for its removal. joining me now from bristol is the leader of the conservative group on the council. thank you forjoining us. what's your reaction to the bringing down of that stature?” think, to be honest, i'm disappointed in the way it happened. it was a largely peaceful protest, there was a minority of people, it was obviously premeditated, and they pulled it down. and i think the wider message of the protest has been lost in that spectacle. because this is featured on almost all media outlets, toppling of the statue, and i think it's criminal damage. if we live in a democracy, you cannot have a situation where public debate is done by grappling hook. this is not how it works. so i am deeply disappointed. i'm afraid i agree
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with kit malthouse on this one, entirely. and actually, keir starmer a little earlier, as well stop the police should prosecute and investigate and people should be held to account. there has been controversy around the statue for use. why hasn't anything been done ina real use. why hasn't anything been done in a real practical sense until now to address this? ijust in a real practical sense until now to address this? i just want to read you, actually, i quote from the city's poet laureate, he says, some people don't get that black people still feel the full impact of slavery today, and that's what's been bubbling under, effectively. there's been a long—time debate about the statue for a while and there are several schools of thought on it. from my point of view is, the slave trade is a dark part of bristol's pass, it is also in every regard, i don't think anyone will try and defend it. —— dark part of bristol's past. at the statue itself engendered conversations. when i walk past it with my daughter, she
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asked who it was, and i explained the slave trade. and i think taking it down sort of hides a bit of that past crime, and it makes a lot of us feel uncomfortable, but considering bristol's passed in the slave trade, maybe we deserve to feel a little uncomfortable about that. because the city benefited from his money but it was blood money to boot, i personally think the statue should have stayed, or at least we should have stayed, or at least we should have had a democratic debate about what happened to it. i don't think you can do that when it has been yanked down and dragged and dumped in the harbour. i mean, we are all talking about it now, though, in a way when we haven't before, as you say, it's been a debate on going in bristol but it has given rise a wider conversation those issues. the plaque on the statue says it's a memorial of one of the most virtuous and wise sons of the city. is that something that should be there? well, that was obviously put up at
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the time and i think there can be two plaques and the other pack could give the entirely different viewpoint about how he was a trafficker of about 80,000 slaves, so it was to try to have that discussion about how we acknowledge bristol's attitudes have changed over the centuries. so that debate should have happened peacefully and democratically and i did not happen yesterday. sorry to interrupt you, how long does a debate have to take? that secondary plaque you talk about was actually agreed in principle in 2018 and it still hadn't happened. now, i think is have to ask the mayor on that one, he's actually in charge. he could have shown leadership and put that plaque up. there has been a lot of conversation around whether this country as a racist country, matt hancock says he thinks the protests here are all based on response to events in
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america rather than here. what's happened in bristol obviously with that statue has focused it very much here. how do you see that question in this country? it's always a hard one. i think in britain, if we're honest with ourselves, are pockets of racism. i certainly like to believe the country isn't in and of itself inherently racist, but there will be people that take a different view. i think having a frank and honest discussion about it is a good thing. but... ithink honest discussion about it is a good thing. but... i think if we are honest with ourselves, there are going to be people that hold what we regard as unpleasant views. and i think we should pull them out into the light and debate them. i hope andi the light and debate them. i hope and i think we are probably not inherently racist, and certainly not irredeemably so. the name edward colston is everywhere in bristol, the money that came down from edward
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colston is something that perhaps should make people feel uncomfortable, but how much is contemplated once a body goes to a school with that name, when somebody walks down colston avenue, colston hole, which has been renamed, is it time to proactively change these names? —— colston hall. is it time to make sure people are aware of that money has come from?” to make sure people are aware of that money has come from? i am not one forjust that money has come from? i am not one for just changing that money has come from? i am not one forjust changing names, i realise that is not going to be popular, certainly in some quarters. but it's a part of our history and i don't like trying to rewrite history or trying to sanitise it. it was a dark part. and i think retaining that creates that link so we understand it better. so i personally would keep the names. briefly, should the statue go back? whither they can retrieve it or not, what happens? they're obviously going to have to fish it out, i
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would certainly suggest, it looked to be chronically damaged, i would question whether it will be even in a state to go back up. at this stage i would say that probably it would need to be lit at, fished out, and possibly put in one of the museums, as we saw on saturday it's a focal point and if it's not protected it will be yanked out again, that's where i fear this is going. so you are not wanted put back?” where i fear this is going. so you are not wanted put back? i think it needs to go into a museum. thank you very much. more now from our assistant political editor, who is in westminster. i mention matt hancock saying that his view was that these protests were reflecting what's been happening in america, but it has taken a different turn this weekend. it has, and so far, the response from ministers has been pretty robust. we have from borisjohnson overnight condemning what he saw as a cts overnight condemning what he saw as acts of thuggery, referring i think
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more to some of the scenes we saw at the end of the demonstration in westminster, where some police were attacked. priti patel described the pulling down of the statue as an act of vandalism which undermined the case which the protesters were trying to make. as you said earlier, kit malthouse, calling for the prosecution of those responsible. in contrast, sir keir starmer, i thought trotter rather more nuanced line this morning, yes criticising the forcible pulling down of the statue, but also suggesting the statue, but also suggesting the statue should never still have been there, that it should have been taken down a long, long time ago by democratic means and put in a museum. now, that sounds fine, but actually, the mayor of bristol, who comes, his parents, ithink, came from the caribbean, he was cautious about that, i think his view was that it would expend an awful lot of political capital if he tried to do that, where is his priority was more
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in tackling issues around housing, poverty, austerity and so on, than if he had spent a lot of focus on trying to campaign for the removal of the statue, that would have meant he got completely distracted from his other agenda. but sir keir starmer, i think i did try to slightly different line this morning, suggesting that, actually, it was completely inappropriate to have that sort of statue honouring a slave trader still up in a prominent place in the 21st century britain. this is what he said. shouldn't have been done in that way, completely wrong to put statue down like that, but stepping back, that statue should have been brought down, a long time ago. you can't come in 21st century britain, have a slave owner statue. the statue is there to honour people and you can't have that in 21st century britain. that statue should have been brought down properly with consent, and fit, i would say, in a museum. this was a
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man who was responsible for 100,000 people being moved from africa to the caribbean as slaves, including women and children, who were branded on their chests with the name of the company that he ran. 0f on their chests with the name of the company that he ran. of the 100,000, 20,000 died en route and were checked in the sea. he should not be ina checked in the sea. he should not be in a statue in bristol or anywhere else. you should be in a museum, because we need to understand this. imean, because we need to understand this. i mean, that should have been taken down a long time ago. a couple of other interesting things i think we learned from him this morning. one is that he thinks it is ok for police officers to take the knee, it's up to individual officers, he says, but he thinks that's absolutely fine. also interesting that he rebuked his former shadow cabinet colleague barry gardiner, who attended one of those demonstrations thereby flouting social distancing rules. he said quite clearly that he should not have attended that demonstration. thank you. now, let's see how the weather is looking.
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we are looking at a fairly cloudy day today and tomorrow, some showers dotted around, some of seeing some rain, and you can see a lot of cloud across the uk this afternoon. some showers in northern ireland, north—east scotland, clipping the north sea coast, there's been a noticeable breeze making it feel cool noticeable breeze making it feel cool, and some sharp showers in south wales and south—west england, some of those could also have some thunder and lightning embedded in them. they will ease away as we go through the course of the evening and overnight, and we're left with clear skies, still a fair bit of cloud but clouds thickening in northern ireland and western scotla nd northern ireland and western scotland ahead of a weather front coming in, which will introduce some rain. not quite as cold a night is the one just rain. not quite as cold a night is the onejust gone. rain. not quite as cold a night is the one just gone. this weather front tomorrow moves west to east, taking rain with it. there will also bea taking rain with it. there will also be a noticeable south—westerly wind. for northern ireland, northern england, parts of wales, central and southern england we could see a few showers but most of england and wales dry and cloudy with sunny spells and highs of 19.
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