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hello, i'm babita sharma. welcome to outside source. tonight we start in the us, where president trump is not having a good day. the supreme court has ruled against him for the second time in a week. he's making a last—ditch effort to stop the publication of a damning new book by his former national security adviser. and facebook says it's taken down some of his ads for breaking its policies on hate speech — after they contained symbols associated with nazi—ism. as usual, we'll also bring you developments on the coronavirus pandemic from all over the globe.
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including bbc research that suggests at least 130 thousand more people have died during the pandemic than official figures show. and we'll take a deep dive into track and track systems — as the uk announces it's ditched its existing plan in exchange for one created by apple and google. welcome. thanks very much forjoining us. we're going to start in the us — where president trump's had a tricky 2a hours. first — the supreme court has ruled against his attempt to get rid of a programme that protects hundreds of thousands of immigrants, who entered the us illegally as children, from deportation. it's called daca — it stands for deferred action for childhood arrivals. it was created in 2012 by president obama — in 2017 the trump administration tried to rescind it. now the court has ruled five to four to uphold lower court rulings that found that move unlawful.
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chiefjusticejohn roberts described the administration's actions as "arbitrary and capricious". this is the second supreme court ruling against the trump administration in a week. president trump tweeted ‘do you get the impression the supreme court doesn't like me‘. it's worth pointing out that he appointed two of those justices — neil gorsuch and brett kavanaugh — and that ideologically it currently leans towards the republicans. these were the scenes outside the supreme court when the ruling was announced earlier today. let's hear from one of the "dreamers" — that's the name given to those undocumented youths brought to the us as children. i've had daca since i was 15—16 yea rs i've had daca since i was 15—16 years old. it's allowed me to go to college. it's allowed me to get a full—timejob. that college. it's allowed me to get a full—time job. that could college. it's allowed me to get a full—timejob. that could have college. it's allowed me to get a full—time job. that could have all been stripped away had the court decided differently today. anthony zurcherjoins us
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live from washington. let's start with the dreamers, about dave or donald trump i suppose, a bit ofan dave or donald trump i suppose, a bit of an understatement, isn't it? how significant is this? yes, considering that donald drabek in 2016 ran on the fact that he would be able to the featheryjudiciary syste m be able to the featheryjudiciary system and a conservative image, but conservative judges on these. to very high profile cases of the supreme court go against him has to be discouraging. they were close decisions, both involved some conservative judges breaking over and siding with the more liberal judges. in this particular case, this daca case, it was decided essentially in a technicality that the chiefjustice, john roberts, said that while the president does have the power to rescind this daca programme, the way he did it without crossing all the eyes, without having properjustification, that
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violated a 19110 aero law that says you have to explain your administrative actions and provide grounding for them before you can go and make them. stay with us anthony — i want to talk about another thing on the president's mind. the trump administration is making a last gap attempt to stop the publication of this book, the memoirs of former national security adviserjohn bolton. a judge will decide in the next 2a hours whether the publication can go ahead next week as planned. but plenty of excerpts have already been published in the press. and they are not flattering for the president. john bolton says donald trump approached china's president for help in getting re—elected. mr bolton writes, "he stressed the importance of farmers and increased chinese purchases of soybeans and wheat in the electoral outcome." here's john bolton being interviewed on american tv. you say that you were astonished by what you saw.
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"a president for whom getting reelected was the only thing that mattered", even if it meant endangering or weakening the nation? well, i think he was so focused on the reelection that longer—term considerations fell by the wayside. mr bolton has also accused mr trump of telling xi jinping that building internment camps for uighur muslims "was exactly the right thing to do". it's worth noting that the us state department says china subjects people in those camps to torture, physical abuse, and prolonged detention without trial because of their religion and ethnicity." here's some more of that interview. you describe the president as erratic, foolish, behaved irrationally, bizarrely coming can't leave him alone for a minute. he saw conspiracies behind rocks and was stunningly uninformed. he couldn't tell the difference between his personal interests and the countries interests. i don't think he is fit for office.
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i don't think he has the competence to carry out the job. there really isn't any guiding principle that i was able to discern other than what's good for donald trump's reelection. as is customary for the president, donald trump has fired back on twitter. he's called john bolton a "wacko", and says the book is "full of lies" and and "fake stories". he goes on, "a disgruntled boring fool who only wanted to go to war. "never had a clue, was ostracized and happily dumped. what a dope!" the president also did the rounds of american media talking up his own record. this was him on fox news. nobody has been tough on china and nobody has been tough on russia like i have. that's in the record books and it's not even close. the last administration did nothing on either and then in terms of bolton, he broke the law. he was a washed up guy, i gave them a chance, he couldn't get senate confirmed
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so i gave him a nine consented to confirmed position where i could just put them there, see how he worked. just to be clear, donald trump is claiming john bolton broke the law by publishing classified information, but no court has agreed with that assesment so far. this isn't the first time donald trump has turned on a former staffer. he's also had more opportunities than most to do so. this is a graph from the american think tank, brookings. the red bars show the total turnover of executive staff during a president's term. that's president trump's bar on the far right — there's been a turnover of staff in 88% of positions — that's the highest over the past a0 years. when former secretary of state rex tillerson said the president was "undisciplined" and "didn't read briefing reports", the president responded by calling him "as dumb as a rock, and lazy as hell". president trump called his former defence secretaryjim mattis "the world's most overrated general", and said former chief
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of staffjohn kelly was in "way over his head" and "couldn't keep his mouth shut". the former white house press secretary anthony scaramucci has become a fierce critic of donald trump. and the president is now a fierce critic of him "nobody ever heard "of this dope until he met me. "he only lasted 11 days". anthony scaramucci has been talking about what it's like to fall out with the president. here he is. its trump employment syndrome. you tried to like president trump. you end up working for him, you experience the blowback of the shrapnel, the litany of lies, and then you start various coping mechanisms. let's go back to anthony zurcher in washington. you know, there were gasps when i was reading that outcome 88% turnover of staff administration, he is trying his best to block this
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publication forjohn bolton's book, but already the juicy bits are out there, aren't they? yeah, it is. you know, that ship has sailed. they may be able to block the publication as a last ditch effort, but with all of these reports getting out in the media, it was damaging details the ofjohn bolton's media, it was damaging details the of john bolton's book media, it was damaging details the ofjohn bolton's book are going to be in the public. so there's not a whole lot they can do to stop that. in fact, maybe it is drawing more attention injohn in fact, maybe it is drawing more attention in john bolton's in fact, maybe it is drawing more attention injohn bolton's become i would be surprised if it tops the bestsellers charts, partially because of what the trump administration is trying to do in reaction to it. i want to get your reaction to it. i want to get your reaction to it. i want to get your reaction to another development. this has to do with facebook that they made this announcement that they made this announcement that they have taken down posts from the trump reelection campaign because they violated the social network's policy against organised eight. 0ne is reported to have complained of dangerous mobs of far left groups destroying our cities and rioting,
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including a red triangle upside down, the symbol for political prisoners in nazi concentration camps. antony, what is your reaction to that and have we heard anything from donald trump on this? we haven't heard anything specifically from donald trump, we have heard from donald trump, we have heard from his campaign. however, they said that the upside down red triangle is a symbol that nt for it self uses and that there is a right upside down triangle and moji on the facebook page. so if this were a controversial image then they certainly didn't know about it. but i think what the significance of this is his showing that facebook may be starting to move towards regulating the trump campaign's postings a little more. if you remember, when twitter took down several of donald trump's tweets just a few weeks ago, facebook and mark zuckerberg and said, well, we don't really get into policing the speech of politicians. so if this is perhaps a sign that facebook may be reversing course a sign that facebook may be reversing course of it. ok, anthony, thank you very much
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for talking us through a very busy day —— anthony. anthony is there. stay with us here an 0utside source. stay with us on 0ustide source, still to come: as the uk announces it's ditched its existing track and trace virus app in exchange for one created by apple and google — we've looked at how track and trace is working — or not — around the world. the singer dame vera lynn has died aged 103. known as the "forces‘ sweetheart", she entertained troops on the front line during world war two. she never retired; last month she became the oldest artist to reach the top a0 in the uk album charts. here's historian dr helen fry on her legacy. i think her biggest legacy is raising the morale not only of the armed forces right across, and that includes not only in europe, but of course in the far east, she was out in burma and travelled to india and perform to the troops,
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but also the nation. you know, we struggled at a time when, particularly the early part of the work, you know, the nation's survival ——the early part of the war, you know, the nation's survival was on the line and she gave hope, she gave that resilience. she was always sort of, if i may, the spirit of churchill in a way. you know, that strength that saw her through some of our darkest moments of that war. this is 0utside source live from the bbc newsroom. the us supreme court rules against the trump administration's bid to deport hundreds of thousnds of immigrants who were bought to the us illegally as children. let's look at some of the day's other news. russia's ambassador in germany has rejected as groundless accusations
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by german federal prosecutors that moscow ordered the killing of a former chechen rebel commander last august. earlier, prosecutors charged a russian national with the murder of a georgian national of chechen origin. the victim was shot dead in a berlin park. this image has emerged showing a crude weapon purportedly used by chinese forces in the fatal clash along china's disputed border with india on monday. the fight in the galwan valley left at least 20 indian soldiers dead and raised tensions between the two powers. to date, over 450—thousand people around the world have died because of coronavirus. but the bbc has found the pandemic‘s real toll is far higher. analysis shows that another 130 thousand people have died than would normally be expected if 2020 was any other year.
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this is what's known as excess deaths. out of the 27 countries we looked at ecuador has seen twice as many deaths since the outbreak there began with a 108 % rise in the mortality rate compared to other years. in italy, there was a 40% rise in the number of deaths, and elsewhere in europe the figures in spain and belgium were also disturbing, and 55 % more people than usual died in indonesia's capitaljakarta. sofia bettiza has been there to find out more. a father buries his youngest son. a mother distraught. three—year—old rafa i did not have coronavirus, but his parents say he died because of it. he had leukaemia. when his condition got worse, his parents raced to hospital. translation: it was around midnight, the hospital said he would need to be tested for covid—19 before he could be admitted anywhere.
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another hospital told us there wasn't a children's doctor on duty and a quick covid test they had were only being used for pregnant women. rafa's parents drove him to to three more hospitals that night, with no success. the next day, they eventually found a hospital that would accept him but he died before doctors could see him. translation: i still believe that if my son was given prompt treatment he would still be alive. rough is one of tens of thousands of people whose deaths are not rafa is one of tens of thousands of people whose deaths are not officially counted as being caused by coronavirus but are still victims of this pandemic. since the outbreak of the virus, lots of countries are recording more deaths than usual. you can see a bump in the graph here. these are called excess deaths. now, many of these have officially been linked to coronavirus as you can see here in red.
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but that still leaves a huge number of lives lost, which are not accounted for in the covid statistics. sofia bettiza reporting there. one of the countries we haven't included in our analysis is india, because we don't have good enough data yet. even before the pandemic — only 70% of deaths in the country are formally recorded — and only one in five deaths are certified by a doctor. so far, india has recorded more than 12,000 coronavirus deaths since the start of the pandemic. but that is likely only a small part of the overall picture — before you count overall excess deaths in the period. here's one epidimiologist in india to explain some reasons why the number of deaths in india has been relatively low. so the deaths reported in india are actually increasing over the last ten days. it has increased
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from 69 to around 70%. ——it has increased from 69 to around 78%. so on that registration it's compulsory in the registration system which is mandatory for any passing of any inheritance. therefore, it is followed with most areas. ——therefore, it is followed in most urban areas. in rural areas, only 20 person pick it up, that is an improvement.. as an epidemioligist, trained epidemiologist in the industry of california los angeles and working in india for a long time, i can tell you with certainty that we are not dismissing the numbers. the major number of deaths related to coronavirus. however, there are reasons why we are having lower number of deaths. number one, younger population, number two, we are still in the ascending phase, the early phase of the coronavirus epidemic in india. as we move forward, we will get the numbers. currently, we are around nine per million deaths in india, which is much lesser compared
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to the entire world — which is having around 200 plus deaths. so we will have increased the availability of data in the future, but more importantly, and this is my hypothesis as of now, indians might have had cross infection with the other types of coronavirus earlier, therefore, most people would have had probably immunity for even the novel coronavirus. on the future examinations might reveal this. in russia a health watchdog has reported that nearly 500 medics have died after contracting covid—19. that's a big increase from just over 100 doctors, nurses and other health workers who were reported to have died last month. russian authorities say problems in supplying protective equipment were a contributing factor. sarah rainsford has more.
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first of all, after this head of the watchdog, the health watchdog here made this statement and talked about 489 medical workers losing their lives in this covid pandemic, the watchdog itself then backtracked and said that these were not official statistics. it was in fact citing an unofficial tally that was kept by medical workers themselves. even so, it's very interesting that this watchdog, very official body, is keeping a very close eye on that unofficial tally. the official numbers for now our three weeks old. ——the official numbers for now are three weeks old. they took 101 medical records, having lost their lives so far. even so, during this, there is a conference on line about medical safety. the watchdog had talked about serious shortcomings that there had been, particularly at the very beginning of covid—19 here in russia, talking about the dire shortage of ppe and saying, was there more that we could've done medical workers dying? she said. the question and answer
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coming from this official was, yes, there was. there is a clear political context for this, just a week or so ago, russia basically declared victory over coronavirus. there seemed to be a stabilisation in terms of the number of cases being reported every day, and certainly the number of fatalities, specifically talking about here in moscow as the heart of the epidemic, but that seems to be because there is a whole raft of very important political dates coming up. first of all, the victory day parade on the 24th ofjune and then following that a key vote for president putin on constitutional reforms that allow him to stay in power for another two terms. it seems quite clear that the relaxation of restrictions that we've seen aimed at coronavirus terms over the past few days, much more people on the streets, much more things opening up, it's very clearly linked to the political agenda here. so, there's a lot of concern that this opening up, whilst it's very welcome, people were very frustrated with the lockdown here, could very well lead to another
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increase in cases very soon. the uk has announced a change of strategy in its efforts to track and trace covid—19. it's ditched its existing plan for a virus app in exchange for one created by apple and google. track and trace is of huge importance because it's seen as central to controlling the virus while lockdowns are eased — and the uk is far from the only country grappling with how to implement it effectively. ros atkins has more. around the world, lockdowns are using, and the new approach is taking centre stage. tracing and quarantining everyone. we met we will have a test track and trace operation that will be world beating. we need that tool so we can open up the economy. but can track and trace deliver? and can we trustedtime and again in march, we heard about flattening the curve. in most countries, it's happened. these are infection rates in the uk, italy
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and france. because of grounds like these, lockdowns are being used, but now attention is turned to controlling new outbreaks. the who is clear, when systematically applied, so what is contact tracing? well, this is about countries knowing who has the virus and who they've been in contact with. but it comes in many forms. some systems are digital, semiannual, some both, some are voluntary like in australia, germany and singapore. some such as china and south korea are definitely not. however you do this, there are major challenges. one of the reasons is personal data. phones were being used to monitor proximity to other people and location. the data is not a lwa ys people and location. the data is not always anonymized. china and south korea monitor the location of people who have the virus and their payment history, and they don't ask permission. both have largely
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tracked the virus effectively. and south korea at least, there is awareness that this approach is unusual. translation: scary is the word for many people, unacceptably scary, whatever the public health benefits. amnesty international has warned... now, norway has suspended its app and germany has been on mindful of these concerns. its app doesn't log your location, but there is attention here between protecting peoples privacy and how well the virus is tracked. then there is the challenge of getting people to sign—up, the more people, the more the system, but if you are a democracy getting most people to ta ke democracy getting most people to take part is hard. singapore wanted three quarters of people to have its app, it's got a third and not all of them are using it. one senior official says there is a trust issue. australia's target was a0%, so
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issue. australia's target was a0%, so far it's reached 25%. though its success containing covid—19 does mean it has less need for the out. the remaining challenges that you need an app that works. in moscow, quarantine tracking app has been finding people for being outside when they weren't. australia's app has struggled to get bluetooth connections with all contacts nearby, and then there is england. in may, the government said the government had a duty to download its app and it would launch after a trial. now though, we are told the. we are and the uk government has announced its grabbing its first plan in favour of a version which collects less data. its reasoning offers an insight into the issues around digital tracking. which leads us to manual track and trace, in other words, tracking done by people. we know from it bola,
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smallpox, hiv, this can be highly effective, arguably the most effective, arguably the most effective measure. the most effective measure. the most effective countries in this, brazil and in england's case, remember boris johnson's promise? well, and in england's case, remember borisjohnson's promise? well, here is the new york times. england's world beating system to track the virus is anything but. we know in its first week, this system referred over 8000 people with covid—19, over 5000 of them handed over their contacts and around 30,000 of those contacts and around 30,000 of those contacts agreed to self—isolate. it's a start, but like in many countries with high case numbers, it's far from comprehensive. countries with high case numbers, it's farfrom comprehensive. contact tracing is the bridge between now and a vaccine for all the reasons discussed, we are still in the early stages of building it. ross atkins there. don't forget you can get in touch with me and some of the team on twitter — i'm @babitatv. stay with us. we will be back with
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plenty more with the headlines on the way. see you again soon. bye— bye. good evening. it's been a fine day for parts of scotland. plenty of sunshine. not too many showers through the day, at least in northern ireland. but for england and wales, it's been cool and cloudy and wet for many parts. and actually overnight into wednesday morning, over a months worth of rain fell in the south and east. now, that has started to ease away and we've had a few thunderstorms following, but the rain has persisted for much of the day across southwestern parts of england, parts of wales. it's moving through the evening and overnight into northern ireland, scotland and northern england. so with all that cloud around, it is going to be quite a warm night again and quite a misty and murky one, with sea fog around in the east and some hill fog around in the west. and it's still with us tomorrow morning. so quite a grey start, with some mist and some fog to clear away, and then outbreaks of rain will work their way northwards. so the devil's in the detail, really, for friday, but it looks as if it won't be so wet
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across the southern half of the uk. but we will not escape all of the showers. there will be some slow—moving downpours once again, but some warmth in the sunshine and still relatively light winds until later, when they start to freshen. it's more likely we'll see some heavier downpours across north wales, northern england, northern ireland and parts of scotland, so more rain that we've had during the day today and still that low cloud for some eastern coastal areas of scotland. and those showers continue to meander northwards as we go through friday night into saturday. still quite a warm and muggy night despite not having as much rain by that stage. it's still quite humid air, so misty and foggy in a few spots again saturday morning. but it's all change for the weekend. we've got low pressure, so still some rain to come — much—needed rain for the gardens. but as it's coming in off the atlantic, it feels fresher with some tightly packed isobars. yes, we could have some gales in the north and west. so, much windier and less humid, with some rain. so let's put some detail on for the weekend. we still have that rain up in the far north of scotland,
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the northern isles. for many, a ridge of high pressure will limit the shower activity more on saturday, so more places staying dry and warm, except the rain comes into northern ireland later in the day and it'll still feel quite warm. we are still in that humid air, but we're picking up that freshening wind. i think we'll really notice that as we go through to sunday. this rain, as you can see, has marched eastwards overnight to most areas, clearing through sunday morning to allow showers close to that low pressure in the north. and those brisker winds as well, so feeling fresher, but still some sunshine on offer. as ever, there's more on the website.
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this is bbc world news,
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the headlines. the us supreme court has overturned a decision by president trump to cancel an obama—era programme that protects from deportation people who entered the united states illegally as children. more than half—a—million migrants will be able to obtain renewable work permits the uk government says its smartphone coronavirus tracing app is being put on hold because it isn't up to the job. it was supposed to be up and running in the middle of may — but now there's no date for when it could be ready. british and french air force jets have flown over london to commemorate 80 years since the french resistance leader made a famous wartime broadcast. general charles de gaulle used bbc studios in london in 19110 bbc to call on his compatriots to fight the nazi germans who'd occupied his country.

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