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good morning. welcome to breakfast, with louise minchin and dan walker. our headlines today: cinemas, museums and pubs in england are likely to get the green light to reopen. a key decision on whether to cut the two—metre social distancing rule is also expected. good morning. campsites and holiday parks in england are worried they will be left out of plans to open in earlyjuly because will be left out of plans to open in early july because of will be left out of plans to open in earlyjuly because of shared facilities like this. it is all about that detail in the government announcement today. for places like this, it could be the difference between a profit and a loss. burnley say they're "ashamed and embarrassed" after a banner
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reading "white lives matter burnley" was flown over the etihad stadium during last night's match against manchester city. "true gentlemen" — the three men stabbed to death in a reading park are remembered by at a vigil. good morning. today the heat starts to build, notjust by day but also by night, especially across england and wales, briefly across scotland, and wales, briefly across scotland, and northern ireland, you may well miss out on this miniature heatwave. but i will have all the details at 6:27am. it's tuesday, 23rd june. our top story: trips to cinemas, restaurants and pubs could soon be possible again in england as part of the government's easing of the lockdown for the leisure industry. borisjohnson is expected to announce that the two—metre social distancing requirement will be reduced to allow venues to reopen next month. there are currently no plans for similar changes in scotland and wales, while in northern ireland the distance has already been cut for schoolchildren. our political correspondent iain watson reports.
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boris iain watson reports. johnson is set to announce that borisjohnson is set to announce that two will become one. the guidance to stay two metres apart where possible is likely to be halved. in england. borisjohnson will brief the cabinet on the results of a rapid review entity to meet metre guidance, and is expected to tell them it will change by the fourth ofjuly, to tell them it will change by the fourth of july, the to tell them it will change by the fourth ofjuly, the day that further restrictions will be eased. the prime minister has been under pressure from the hospitality industry and many of his own mps to change the social distancing rules amid fears that some businesses would otherwise be unviable. so from early next month, england will feel very different. pubs and restaurants reopening, along with cinemas, galleries and museums, and if you're planning a steak asian, well, hotels and bed and breakfasts will be able to put up our vacancy sign. —— staycation. but businesses and entertainment venues will only be allowed to open if they are covid
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secure. so as we see in supermarkets now, in some settings they could screens if you are likely to come close to staff. you will probably have to follow i—way systems, and some buildings will also have to improve ventilation. and we will have to learn from continental countries, which have already relaxed their rules. we may have to get more used to table service when we go out for a drink. hairdressers and barbers may also be allowed to open next month, but don't expect to close a shave. when borisjohnson addresses mps in the house of commons this afternoon, he will make it very clear that if businesses and the rest of us don't follow the new social distancing guidelines, then the easing of restrictions may be reversed. everything will not suddenly go back to normal injuly. but we may find out what the new normal feels like. large but we may find out what the new normalfeels like. large parts but we may find out what the new normal feels like. large parts of the economy will come to life. but not quite as we once knew it. the guidance for vulnerable people shielding in england will also be relaxed from next month. we're joined now by our political correspondent jonathan blake from westminster. jonathan, what's been
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the reaction to this? there is quite a lot which could change from today? absolutely. i think these changes, which we are expecting the prime minister to announce in the house of commons later on will be the biggest shift since the lockdown began, and as ian was outlining in his report there, things in england will start to feel if not quite back to normal, then something approaching that. big sectors of the economy, which have been shut down for three months or so now will be able and encouraged to open up, and if you look at the numbers, it is understandable to see why politicians think that they can ta ke why politicians think that they can take these decisions now, because the number of confirmed new cases on sunday was fewer than 1000 for the first time since lockdown began. a number of people in hospital with covid—19 is just under 5000 number of people in hospital with covid—19 isjust under 5000 now. and they were just 15 deaths sadly
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reported on sunday, which is the lowest since the middle of march. —— there were. but those numbers tell a story, partly as a result of people following the social distancing guidelines and the fact that so much of the country has been shut down for so long, as politicians take the steps to open up again, and the significant changes we are going to see in the next couple of weeks, so the risk rises but if people don't stick to the rules, all with this relaxation now coming in, the numbers could go up again. so scientists will be keeping a very close eye on that. and there is some nervousness that this is perhaps too much, too soon, from some scientist, who are saying that the test and trace programme that is so crucial to keeping the virus under control now is not quite ready and compared to other european countries the number of cases in the uk, still relatively high. thank you very much. and we will be discussing these changes with the northern ireland secretary, brandon lewis, around 7:30am.
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germany's rate of infection has nearly tripled in three days, triggering concerns about a possible second wave of coronavirus cases. an outbreak of covid—19 at a meat plant has helped to push up the r—number, the measure of how fast the virus is spreading, to 2.8. a number below 1.0 is seen as necessary to contain the spread of the disease. burnley football club says it will ban any fans found to be behind the flying of a banner saying "white lives matter burnley" during its match at manchester city last night. the message was towed by an aircraft moments after the players had knelt in support of the black lives matter movement. sally, what has the reaction been? it isa it is a lot of reaction, right across the sport to what happened last night? yeah, a huge amount of reaction over the last few hours. good morning, everyone. yes, anyone
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who has been inside a premier league stadium over the last few days when a much has been played has described the moment when the players take the knee as almost breathtaking, you know. you can hear a pin drop. it is a real moment before the game starts. and it was at that moment last night as the players were taking a knee, they became aware of a noise, they could hear a plane noise, and then they saw this plane flying the banner overhead. i know that several of the players spoke to the referee, but the match went ahead. the play did stop for a moment or two. the match went ahead, and burnley were beaten 5—0 by manchester city last night. well, shortly after the game, the burnley captain, ben mee, came and spoke to the press. he was asked a question about football, but he was livid about football, but he was livid about what had happened. here is what he said to radio 5 live. about what had happened. here is what he said to radio 5 livelj about what had happened. here is what he said to radio 5 live. i am sure it made a big impact on our players. we, as a group of players, condemn it. we are ashamed, we are embarrassed. completely misses the point of what we are trying to
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achieve as, you know, as a football community, as a group, the players. yeah. and as a group of players, we are really ashamed and, you know, it isa are really ashamed and, you know, it is a minority of our supporters, i know i speak for the main part of our supporters but absolutely, you know, distance ourselves from any sort of thing like that. it is a real shame to see on it and i reckon it definitely had an impact on us. really interesting to see ben mee admitted that actually, that impacted the players themselves during the game. i really strongly worded statement from burnley football clu b worded statement from burnley football club last night, saying they strongly condemned the actions. they say "we wish to make it clear that those responsible are not welcome at turf moor. we apologise unreservedly to the premier league, to manchester city and to all of those helping to promote black lives matter". so that you have that image of that plane flying over the 80 had last night, saying "white lives
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matter" and the word burnley. a really strong response from the club. sally, thank you. i know you will be speaking to a number of people about that issue this morning. and if you want to get in touch with us about that, please do. police in washington have used pepper spray against protestors trying to tear down a statue of the former president andrew jackson. a wave of nationwide demonstrations calling for racialjustice has swept the united states since the death of george floyd last month. 0ur correspondent peter bowes is in los angeles. peter, how have people been reacting to these latest protests? peter, thank you for spending a bit of time on a summer programme this morning. give us the very latest on these protests. what is happening? yeah, good morning. this is the latest protest, as you say, and the latest protest, as you say, and the latest attempt to destroy the statue ofa latest attempt to destroy the statue of a historicalfigure latest attempt to destroy the statue of a historical figure linked to america's racist past. this was sandra jackson, the seventh us president, he was in the white house from 1829 to 1837. —— andrew jackson. he was a populist
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president, he was a very divisive president, he was a very divisive president, and sometimes his style is likened to the style of president trump. he was a man who, during his lifetime, owned more than 500 slaves, and was much criticised by native american activists because he passed into law a measure that saw a lot of peace —— people forced off their land by the us government. we had a group of protesters in washington trying to bring down his bronze statue, mounted on a horse. they managed to get ropes around the statue but didn't manage to bring it down. the police moved in, they were firing pepper spray and eventually managed to move the crowd back stop and of course these scenes are very reminiscent of the kind of scenes we saw a few weeks ago, at the height of the protest, after the killing of george floyd. president trump has been tweeting about this in the last few hours. he referred to a number of people being arrested in washington, dc for what he described as the disgraceful vandalism of the magnificent statue of andrew jackson, and he said those
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responsible could face ten years in prison. peter, thank you very much. that was peter bowes, speaking to us from los angeles this morning. tributes have been paid to three men who were stabbed to death in a park in reading on saturday, as police continue to question a suspect. a vigil was held last night for friends james furlong, joe ritchie—bennett and david wails at a local pub. 25—year—old khairi saadallah was arrested under the terrorism act on saturday. john mcmanus is in reading now. it was a really emotional moment, this vigil last night? it was indeed. good morning from reading. we have been hearing more about the three that is of this attack, as you say. and those very warm tribute is being paid to them by their friends, family and the community here as well. the third victim to named, late yesterday, was david wells. a friend of his told the bbc he was somebody very chatty, somebody who enjoyed banter in the pub. —— david
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wails. he always had a smile on his face and he liked to make other people happy as well. the american victim of the attack, joe ritchie—bennett, had moved to the uk from philadelphia 15 years ago. he worked for a pharmaceutical company here in the town. his brother, who is still in the united states, described how they used to play on bikes together as a child, and said his family was absolutely heartbroken and that his brother did not deserve to go like this. the third victim, of course, 36—year—old james furlong, he was educated in liverpool but worked as a head of history at a school in wokingham, not far from history at a school in wokingham, not farfrom here. the history at a school in wokingham, not far from here. the school has said he was a kind gentleman, and the students called him deeply loved and valued. and as well as those tributes, regulars at the local pub yesterday not far from here came together to remember the three men with speeches and music. all of them drank there and it is pretty clear these killings have deeply affected all of the community. i have been walking through town myself, and
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everyone hasjust walking through town myself, and everyone has just not walking through town myself, and everyone hasjust not looked happy. which shows how hard it has set everyone. even if you don't know the victims, it is still hard to know that someone from your town has been killed. and it isjust grief for everyone , because we killed. and it isjust grief for everyone, because we are a tightknit community. well, the investigation here continues and the police have been given more time, until saturday, to question the suspect, hurry somebody —— khairi saadallah, and they are not looking for anybody else in connection with this attack, but they are keeping an open mind about the motive. john, thank you. an opera house in barcelona has put on its first concert since the coronavirus outbreak, but it wasn't your typical performance. the audience was made up of more than 2,000 pot plants, which were then given to frontline health workers. the concert took place a day after spain's state of emergency came to an end after
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more than three months. they look lovely, don't they, down? yes. they do look lovely. what an extraordinary thing!|j yes. they do look lovely. what an extraordinary thing! i mean, yeah... that is bizarre, isn't it? i'm trying to think of a plant —based pun. you will have to sell -- save it for later. send them in. i am sure you have got some good ones. it for later. send them in. i am sure you have got some good onesm is early for it. it is very early for a is early for it. it is very early fora pun at is early for it. it is very early for a pun at 6:15am. it's more than three months since the hospitality trade was asked to close its doors to prevent the spread of coronavirus. today, the prime minister is expected to announce that they can reopen early next month. but how will pubs be keeping their staff and customers safe? 0ur consumer affairs correspondent sarah corker has been finding out. coming out of hibernation takes a lot of planning and at the with the
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arms in malin, this man is trying to figure out how much stock you will need. he is planning to open on the fourth ofjuly need. he is planning to open on the fourth of july if need. he is planning to open on the fourth ofjuly if the two metre rule is halved. if it stays in place, it won't be profitable for us to open. we probably wouldn't even break even. 0pening we probably wouldn't even break even. opening up our capacity isn't that good in any sense was that the uk beerand pub that good in any sense was that the uk beer and pub industry is worth £23 billion, lee says his small chain of four pubs in lancashire is in some ways ahead of the curve. instead of going to the bar, customers have been encouraged to use apps to order their drinks. all you need is a phone, you tell it which table you are at, what you wa nt which table you are at, what you want and then you pay for it. and the order is then passed to the team. the government is likely to encourage more pubs to operate in this way. it not only avoids cues
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inside, its also helping businesses to trade safely. thank you. and one thing's to trade safely. thank you. and one things the shore, technology is likely to play a big role in kickstarting the hospitality sector. these apps would also have a public health role, a way to trace and alert pub —goers if they have been come into contact with coronavirus. ian designs apps for the food and drink industry and says demand has increased tenfold in the last month. the businesses that are enquiring have changed massively as well. we are talking to holiday websites where they have static bands for ordering and restaurants and hotels was that we are talking to butchers, it is to be restaurants, takeaway and pubs, but now every business can sort of embrace it and use it. the hospitality sector is calling out the detailed advice on what reopening will look like. will there
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bea limit reopening will look like. will there be a limit on the number of drinkers and even the time allowed inside a pub? we're looking forward to getting clarity from the government today and the guidance that will have follow. also, the date confirmed, but crucially a move from two metres down to one metre would make a significant difference for pubs. it's the difference between one third opening under two metres or two—thirds being able to open under one metre. the uk's 47,000 pubs are being forced to change. so, will they still appeal to customers? if there was a pub open now, we would go to it. if the measures were in place saying you have to use a app: in place saying you have to use a app, i would in place saying you have to use a app, iwould probably in place saying you have to use a app, i would probably go for it. the whole point of socialising is mingling, if you are constantly being told to stay way —— away from each other, and people are drunk, i think it would take away from some of that. i would like to see my
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mates and go for a pint. in a new era where crowds are the enemy, some are questioning whether it will take the fear of going out, or whether the fear of going out, or whether the paint will be hard to resist. sarah corker, bbc news. —— pint. it's notjust pubs and restaurants that will be affected by the lockdown changes being outlined today, it could make a big difference for our holidays too. i was just having a look at sean. don't go in for a dip just yet! i was just having a look at sean. don't go in for a dipjust yet! no, i won't, it's a natural pool and a bit chilly. the whole idea is you go ona bit chilly. the whole idea is you go on a hot tub and then take a cool dip. the caravan industry is pretty concerned when we get these announcements that are expected today, that some of this may be excluded from that. children's playgrounds, various things that help the customers here. they
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normally expect to have 600— 800 customers here in a busy day, for all of them to be able to use these amenities. there is a variety of trade associations, 1.7 million people, who run these businesses across the uk and they are worried they will not be included. now, what is the knock—on effect going to be for these businesses? 0n the other side of the beach i have the managing director at love to stay. mark, good morning to you! i'lljust get my microphone. this is a big place, not cheap to keep going? no, it's not. it costs a lot of money to keep it closed. we can see behind you you have static camper vans, motorhomes, tourers and glampers behind us. what are you taking from the government today? we need a definite date, so part of the problem we have is with planning,
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when are we going to go, when can we ta ke when are we going to go, when can we take bookings and welcome our guests are? would we like? we would like to meet is to drop to one. —— what would we like ? meet is to drop to one. —— what would we like? we would like to —— 2m to drop to 1m. so about those shared facilities, you have a fancy new toilet block for £1 million? and we are sure we can open it. if you have self—contained accommodation like glamping, that's fine, but with our network it is quite difficult. this year you have staff already furloughed? yes, we have 250 staff in total and 60 off at the moment. in terms of the park, we need people to have their restaurants, coffee shops, swimming pools, we can't bring them back yet. so with those of distancing being reduced to 1m,
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you could reopen those even though you could reopen those even though you wouldn't have as many tourists and campers on site? if we go down toim we can and campers on site? if we go down to 1m we can get restaurants and coffee shops open and seating, which will make a big difference in getting the guest back. and if we look around the beach we are on, if we look at the bull that is next to us, the one i was out down there, could you get that to work if it was reduced from 2m to 1m? we would have to limit numbers and it is about safety protocol. it's not particularly difficult to get the safety protocol. wash your hands and get the part. we just need some government guidance now about when we could do that to prepare the business. is it as drastic as depending on the announcement today, jobs to be on the line? yeah, absolutely. what other variables? what is the possibility question that if you could open a restaurant at two metres mio 30% —— you would have 30% of tables and covers open
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but you need 70% to break even and then make a profit. we are desperate for our people to come back to work, we need to be able to have those numbers to bring customers back properly. and have you brought people back recently? we had three people back recently? we had three people back recently? we had three people back yesterday to maintain the sewerage system. the reality of thatis the sewerage system. the reality of that is we need customers back in the first place. and if we have a look around here, we will go for a short walk? just having a look at the block you have got, having a look at the pool. hot tubs, how might they work when we are looking at those? that's a really difficult thing. ultimately you are sitting in a bleach water environment, in theory, it is very safe. but i think ultimately we should be able to open them with some form of limitation. and the wider area it says yep. how
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has it been? there is quite difficult because the playground can't open. normally we would have 600- 800 can't open. normally we would have 600— 800 people a day waking up at this time in the morning there would be buzz at the place but of —— at the moment all you can hear is the birdsong and you and i. mark, thank you very much. you can see it is make or break in many parts of businesses like these, which types of things can be opening in a few weeks time and which cannot, because they are relying on it to bring staff back. thank you, sean. we will be talking about this throughout the morning. sean will be with us all day today. let's take a look at today's papers. most of the papers are leading this morning on plans to further ease the lockdown in england. the guardian says museums, galleries and cinemas will be allowed to reopen from the 4th ofjuly, alongside pubs, restaurants and hairdressers.
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the times goes with the same story and there's a report on a health warning being issued as britain braces for the hottest day of the year so far. the paper also shows a woman wiping away tears during yesterday's minute's silence for the victims of the reading knife attack. the mail leads on reading and says police stopped the suspect the day before the attack. and the scotsman's main story online concerns the economy. it says it needs £6 billion covid—crisis kickstart which could see the government take ownership of struggling firms. you mentioned the weather, we will be going to carol in a moment. there are various pictures of people scantily clad. britain separate heatwave not seen since the 1970s. and the june heatwave not seen since the 1970s. and thejune record could go at 36.5 degrees, dating back to 1976. how do
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you judge a heatwave, louise? degrees, dating back to 1976. how do youjudge a heatwave, louise? do you know how? it has to be three consecutive days over 25 degrees. and lots of records could potentially be broken, saying that obviously, do take care in the heat. there is little warning here. bookies are predicting the 35.6 degreesjune bookies are predicting the 35.6 degrees june record bookies are predicting the 35.6 degreesjune record set simultaneously, once i'm in london in 1957 simultaneously, once i'm in london in1957 and simultaneously, once i'm in london in 1957 and equalled in southampton in 1976 could fall. and if there is none on the way, carol says there definitely is, that could lower coronavirus transmission rates. strong sun causes the virus to decay to almost nothing in 30 minutes. it basically means the heat means if someone was infected and coughed or sneezed onto an outdoor surface, the virus would be largely harmless in half—an—hour with just a tiny viral load remaining. so the effect of sunlight in this piece is
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significant here. going to parks, they will be open with social distancing or with your own support bubble, public gardens, a lot of them you have to take bookings for as most of them are already booked. zoos, not all of the attractions are available, aquariums are indoors and not open. there are lots of options for water sports. not open. there are lots of options forwatersports. swimming not open. there are lots of options for water sports. swimming in lakes, of course, take care. i always say that. don't do it by yourself. be safe. cold water shock. exactly. i have a quiz question for you, 0k? let you know i hate quizzes. 0k, sorry. three — well, i'll give you the answer to one of them. this is queen appearing on our new stamps. i think the headline is we will, we
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will post you. the five members of the band and some famous album cove rs as the band and some famous album covers as well will be on sale. it will cost 16 quid. for each stamp? what are you sending with this? it's more of a collectors' deal. brian may says we are a collectors institution. there are only two other bands that have appeared on royal mail stamps. i'm guessing the beatles. anyone? throw in your suggestions. and we're talking about things that might open, i mean, fingers crossed for everybody, the hairdressers. 0h! will be talking to a hairdresser later about what might change. magazines out, refreshments
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out, perhaps you will only be able to have a wet cut, not a dry cut, and chatting will perhaps be kept to and chatting will perhaps be kept to a minimum? no, where are you going on your holidays? nowhere, obviously. where are you going? nowhere. get on with it. well, if you like it hot, sunny and humid, that is what is coming our way. look at this lovely weather watchers picture taken in new wind, but it isn't like this everywhere. temperatures rising more widely, but it is also going to turn much more humid, and that is notjust by turn much more humid, and that is not just by day but by night. turn much more humid, and that is notjust by day but by night. so for the next few nights it will be uncomfortable for sleeping. it is happening today as we are dragging up happening today as we are dragging up this continental air across our shores, but look at the yellows across western scotland and other parts of northern ireland. you are
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going to have briefly some warmer weather but not so much northern ireland. as we had to that we can think such a change was that we have with a friend coming in from the west, we will see some thunderstorms, we will see some rain and it will start to cool down in comparison to what we're at now. so ido comparison to what we're at now. so i do not think we will break the all—time record. but what we have got for today's rain across northern ireland and parts of western scotland, moving northwards, taking its cloud with that over north wales and also northern england so, bright enough for you and there will be a logical warm sunshine. temperatures up logical warm sunshine. temperatures up to 27 degrees in london, 27 in hull, 19 in aberdeen. then, as we head into the evening and overnight we still have the weather front which is producing all of this cloud and rain still across northern ireland and scotland. clear skies across england and wales, it's not going to be a cold night, though. what you will find this temperatures are only going to fall between 12— 16 degrees, so it is going to feel quite depressive. as we move into
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tomorrow we still have this weather front, it's a cold front, as you can see. high pressure moving in towards scandinavia, it will really weaken this weather front. so although we may start off with a fair amount of cloud and also some rain across scotland and northern ireland, the rain will start to fizzle out. we might get the odd spot as we go through the course of the afternoon but most won't. there will be sunshine coming across the highlanders and a lot of sunshine, strong sunshine, high uv levels across england and wales. look at those temperatures! 22 in aberdeen and 31, possibly 32 in london. 20 in northern ireland, so northern ireland, you are not going to see the high temperature is that some of us are going to see over the next few days. in scotland, it will be brief. as we move through thursday, some thunderstorms, some showers moving across parts of northern scotland, one or two in northern ireland, but the most it will be another dry, sunny, hot day with just light breezes. this is when we could see the peak of the
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temperatures, we could well have 31, 30 due, possibly 33. 20 in aberdeen, 22 in glasgow. and looking at 27 in st helier. it changes as we head into the weekend, so on friday, things are moving faster than we thought yesterday. friday will have thunderstorms in the west, they will be drifting eastwards through the course of the day, some of them could be torrential. that will have an impact on the temperatures for some as you can see, going back down into the mid—205. we might hang onto the 305 in the far south and then by saturday the weather changes to have more of an atlantic influence, so those weather front5 come in, bring some rain to the west, that will 5lowly be pushing ea5tward5 and the temperatures are going to get back down closer to where they should be at this stage injune. down closer to where they should be at this stage in june. so the super hot weather will last for how long, we re hot weather will last for how long, were you saying? just a few days. by the weekend, as you can see here, it 5ta rt5 the weekend, as you can see here, it starts to return a lot closer to
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where we should be. it will be fresher. i wanted to ask you as well, we were just looking at the papers and some were saying records could possibly be broken this week. what do you reckon? no. that is what a love about carol. if we break any record5, my name is michael fi5h. i don't think we will. there is a flaming ointment. yesterday we thought friday would be the hottest day, but now we have got more thunderstorms coming in more quickly. they will spread in cloud and rain, both of these having an adverse impact, potentially, on the temperature. i could be wrong, of cour5e, temperature. i could be wrong, of course, but it is our thinking at the moment. do you know what, i preferred the second answer but i really liked the first one as well. thank you! why years a profusion of words when a single one will do. thank you! why years a profusion of words when a single one will dolj words when a single one will do.” totally agree. good on you. hello, this is breakfast with louise minchin and dan walker. it's 06:30. we'll bring you all the latest news and sport in a moment, but also on breakfast this morning. measures to protect people who are shielding in england will be relaxed in just a few weeks.
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we'll discuss what it means and how it affects the most vulnerable. after three months without restaurants, bars and hairdressers, we'll ask what plans for reopening in england will mean for businesses and their customers. # we'll meet again # we'll meet again # don't know where, don't know when... from forces' sweetheart to national treasure — we'll speak to dame vera lynn's daughter about calls to put up a statue on the white cliffs of dover in her memory. good morning. here's a summary of today's main stories from bbc news. cinemas, restaurants and pubs could soon be opening their doors again in england as part of the government's easing of the lockdown for the leisure industry. borisjohnson is expected to announce the two metres social distancing requirement will be reduced. there are currently no plans for similar changes in
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scotla nd plans for similar changes in scotland and wales, while in northern ireland, the distance has already been cut for schools. germany's rate of infection has nearly tripled in three days, triggering concerns about a possible second wave of ground—based cases. —— coronavirus cases. an outbreak of covid—19 at a meat plant has helped to push up the r—number, the measure of how fast the virus is spreading, to 2.8. a number below 1.0 is seen as necessary to contain the spread of the disease. tributes have been paid to three men who were stabbed to death in a park in reading on saturday. james furlong, joe ritchie—bennett and david wails have been described as "true gentlemen." they were remembered during a vigil at a local pub where they regularly met. local residents held silences and laid flowers around the town for the trio. we have got out early bbc breakfast appointment with a gp coming up shortly, but first we have an appointment with sally for the sport. more reaction to what, if you watch the football last night, you will have seen something going on
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before the match, which a lot of us are talking about this morning? that's right. we have been talking about, particularly in sport, the black lives matter movement, for weeks now. and the powerful reaction from sportspeople to that movement. well, last night something incredible happened. i've got to tell you, just before the match between burnley and man city, which burnley are now saying they are ashamed and embarrassed about after ashamed and embarrassed about after a and ashamed and embarrassed about after aanda ashamed and embarrassed about after a and a reading "white lives matter burnley" was flown over the eddie howe stadium during the game with manchester city last night. —— that he had stadium. —— etihad. the aircraft circled over the stadium beforehand, and before the match, but players and staff had taken a kneein but players and staff had taken a knee in support of black lives matter. burnley were quick to release a statement condemning those responsible, saying the banner in no way represents what the club stands for and that they will work fully with the authorities to identify those who were responsible and take appropriate action. these statements
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as those found to be involved will not be welcome at turf moor and the clu b not be welcome at turf moor and the club apologised unreservedly to the premier league, to man city, and all those helping promote black lives matter. there has also been plenty of reaction elsewhere. clarets fan and former advisor to tony blair alastair campbell praised the club's handling of the incident and gave his thoughts on the person responsible. manchester city's raheem sterling shared an image of the banner, stating simply #timeforchange. there was also praise for burnley‘s captain, ben mee, who said those responsible for the banner had no place in the club. piara powar, executive director of the europe—wide anti—discrimination network fare, applauded mee, saying "how to take responsibility." i'm joined now by iffy 0nuora, the pfa's equalities director and kick it out trustee, who was at the etihad stadium last night. could you just tell me what you saw,
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what was your experience of what you saw last night? yeah, good morning, sally. yeah, it was obviously interesting, you saw the plane fly over. . . interesting, you saw the plane fly over... inaudible. three orfour times. and obviously within the stadium, it is really sparsely attended at the moment, you are three orfour attended at the moment, you are three or four seats away from anybody. in fact, three or four seats away from anybody. infact, i three or four seats away from anybody. in fact, i was four seats away from michael richards, the ex— city player who is working for sky, andi city player who is working for sky, and i pointed it out to him, i don't think he had seen it. it circled three orfour times. you could think he had seen it. it circled three or four times. you could tell it was obviously a direct attack, they were obviously trying to make a statement of themselves. it was just a surreal experience, really, especially considering what had gone onjust especially considering what had gone on just before that with the black lives matter, the players taking a me for —— taking a knee. lives matter, the players taking a me for -- taking a knee. everybody, when i talk about that moment where
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the players take a knee, it is like you can hear a pin drop moment. it is solemn, it is respectful, i have heard people call it breathtaking, when you see in the silence of the stadium, that happening. what was your gut feeling, when moments after this, you then saw that banner.” think you are momentarily deflated. because like you said, it is a really powerful moment. i mean, if you thought about this only a month or two ago, you wouldn't believe it would happen. iwould or two ago, you wouldn't believe it would happen. i would echo what everybody said, ben mee was absolutely fantastic, lots of other players, marcus rashford and raheem sterling... inaudible. jordan henderson, seamus... inaudible. harry mcguire, who are being even more vocal than others, and wanted to make a stand about this. so you
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get that momentary deflation. but actually, when you see what has happened since, and the positive reaction of burnley making a statement, and ben mee speaking so eloquently, and actually, you know, you feel inspired again, because these moments, there is always a moment where you think, well, 0k, it is running out of steam, people get a bit of battle fatigue, but it has almost given it another kick in the arm, and having these conversations. and they are uncomfortable conversations, but in order to progress and move towards what we think is fairand progress and move towards what we think is fair and important, we have to have them, and maintain that line. and i amjust curious to have them, and maintain that line. and i am just curious to know, what would your message be? how would you explain to people this morning, who are watching this and maybe don't understand how that is an offensive message, say, the
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people who decided to fly about an hour, what would you say to those people? i mean, in itself, the words themselves are not offensive. it is just the context. it is actually a rejection, obviously, of the conversation we are having at the moment. that is what it represents. and i guess people have the right to do it. and people, for all the great things that have been said, people... inaudible. guilt or responsibility for the actions of other people or anything like that. to me it isjust proof again other people or anything like that. to me it is just proof again that these things can lead to positive things, because all that has been said in the 12 hours since the game has finished is, again, another ca ta lyst has finished is, again, another catalyst and another conversation. and i think the thing is, it is such a transformative and i think the thing is, it is such a tra nsformative point and i think the thing is, it is such a transformative point now in the year, in football, and what is going on, but thisjust year, in football, and what is going on, but this just expands it again, and hopefully will lead to some more
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conversations. and like i said, for everybody out there, these are uncomfortable conversations, and we have got to have them and there is nothing wrong with doing that. being uncomfortable. because, you know, this is deep, there is context to every racist moment, it is notjust the incident in itself, it has a context, and i think everyone in society is looking at the way we have done things, the way things have done things, the way things have happened in the past, the representation. and asking themselves some strong questions, and they are the things that need to happen, and we have got to have these moments, and so be it. iffy, lovely to talk to you this morning. that was iffy 0nuora from the professional footballers association. as for the game itself, city's 5—0 win means liverpool cannot now win the premier league title tomorrow. here's craig templeton with the story of the match. 0n the pitch, complete unity, as
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manchester city tried to delay the inevitable. liverpool are so many points ahead but city's timers is nearly up. if they fail to beat burnley, that could be as soon as wednesday. but one reason for celebration at eddie howe and is phil foden, the young englishman given a chance to start, and taking it. riyad mahrez has become a regular starter season, and here is why. step, turn, twist and finish, and a 2—0 lead. var meant a third would follow shortly. this time, mahrez was my job would follow shortly. this time, mahrez was myjob was much easier. city made it look too easy at times, as david silva and then phil foden put the results beyond all doubt. so there is no doubt that the title is heading to merseyside. but city ensured that it won't be tomorrow. sticking with a theme, we are going
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to talk to you now with a story from the united states, and bubba wallace's the united states, and bubba walla ce's fellow the united states, and bubba wallace's fellow nascar drivers pushed his car to the start of the race line in alabama, to show their support for him a day after a noose was found in his team garage. bubba wallace is the only full—time black driver in nascar. you can see how these pictures of drivers pushing his car in a show of solidarity. the incident involving the noose is being investigated by the fbi and the united statesjustice department. british tennis player dan evans says novak djokovic should "feel some responsibility" after three players tested positive for covid—19 after playing at his adria tour event. evans was speaking at the battle of the brits event which will see andy murray play his first match in seven months. the former wimbledon champion will take part in the behind closed doors event in roehampton.
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murray hasn't played since november. that is due to injury. so, a big day for tennis. 0f that is due to injury. so, a big day for tennis. of course, the tournament i am talking about here, imight be tournament i am talking about here, i might be djokovic tournament, is com pletely i might be djokovic tournament, is completely behind closed doors. —— unlike the djokovic tournament. thank you for that update on everything. millions of people in england who have been shielding have been told lockdown restrictions will ease for them in the coming weeks. they will also be an announcement today about the relaxing of the two metre distancing rule. we're joined today by dr farrah sheikh. good morning, and thank you very much for being with us this morning. good to talk to you, as ever. let's start with the reduction in the possible easing of restrictions. what do you make about? 0bviously possible easing of restrictions. what do you make about? obviously we are talking about england here, and this is centred around the reduction of two metres down one metre, which
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we expect an announcement about later. how does that make you feel? i think were all quiet excited to be able to hear some news that restrictions are going to be slightly lifted, dropping from 2m to 1m later today, so everybody should still be very mindful, knowing the virus is starting to increase within the general population. previously you had to be exposed to 400 people in order to come across a case of covid—19, now thankfully because of social distancing this is now reduced to one in 1700, but keeping at least one metre distance is going to because you'll in keeping everybody safe —— is going to be crucial. those sage advisers say the difference between 2m and 1m, at one
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metre it is ten times more likely you could spread the virus. so there isa you could spread the virus. so there is a difference between 2m and 1m, and it will be interesting to see how they explain that to the science. we can all remember those infographics which were shown on the news a few months ago when someone was sneezing, for example, and the droplets were spreading for quite a distance. so, for example, if restrictions are dropped to one metre, and someone sneezes close to you who potentially may have covid—19, then they could potentially be passing that on to somebody else. as long as we are trying to stick to strict hygiene, if you are sneezing, sneezing into your elbow, making sure we are thorough with hand washing, because we know hand washing is one of the most effective ways of getting rid of the virus. so don't be as strict as you possibly can. —— try and be as you possibly can. —— try and be as strict as you can. and for those people who had been shielding an awful lot of time, our concerns
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around that, and those who have been taking great care for the last three months or so, are those the sorts of concerns you are hearing from your patience at the moment, they will be more worried about people coming out? these people have been shielding for so long, yes, they will essentially be let out into the big, bad, wide world in early august. naturally they are going to bea august. naturally they are going to be a little bit apprehensive about this. it's a case of again, just making sure that they are very furrow with their hand hygiene —— very thorough, and limit their time outside if they can, because that is the best way to keep yourself protected. generally, avoid seeing people. but if you have been shielding for three months or so you would be quite excited to see members of your family and friends you have not seen for a long time. and i know we get contacted by people like this every day you have been listening very carefully to
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what the government has been telling them to do, stay at home and stay alert as those measure messages have been changing, and yet, now they are still incredibly worried about going out and returning to normal life and opening the front door. how do you speak to those sorts of people? well, it's a case ofjust trying to reassure them as much as possible using the government advice that has been given. i know that yesterday they were saying that there was potentially people who have been shielding and they could potentially go back to work, or go about their everyday lives as soon as next week. but, trying to make sure that everybody is ready psychologically and all of the services are available so at the beginning of august this will be the time they can try and return to some normality. naturally, these people are going to be very worried about it and it would be a case ofjust trying to be as careful as you possibly can. if you are feeling
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unwell, then definitely stay at home. if you are going to be seeing somebody you may be showing signs of coronavirus, then definitely don't go and see the manager stay indoors as much as possible still. what about life for you at work at the moment? for your about life for you at work at the moment? foryoursurgery? are about life for you at work at the moment? for your surgery? are things being used slowly or are you still being used slowly or are you still being stringent about the flow of patients around the surgery? —— eased slowly? we are trying to main —— maintain safety, and also how things will be reinstated in the surgery room. we are starting to plan our new campaign which we normally start in late september. but because of all of the restrictions we have had, it's about whether these restrictions will continue and how we're going to be to do continue and how we're going to be todoa continue and how we're going to be to do a massive flu clinic come september. so we are starting to plan what the future of general
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practice is going to be like. on the future of general practice, i was speaking to a gp on this programme a few weeks ago and they were saying it's going to be a big change with the number of online consultations and video goals. you see that being and video goals. you see that being a part of your future as well?” think it definitely is. we have had to make the transition quite quickly. we didn't expect going to video consultations so soon, but with covid we have had to make those changes and patients are enjoying it. they are finding they are able to access their gp in ways they have never been able to previously, and i think it is a change for the better. 0k, thank you very much. i am sure in three months' time there will be a piece on that and we will visit you about how that is going on. thank you for speaking to us this morning. it is 6:50am. as the pandemic spread around the world and many businesses have been forced to close their doors, the film sets of hollywood were no exception. but there is one part
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of the industry that can be carried out at a safe social distance — animation. but the outbreak still creates some challenges, as our west coast correspondent sophie long reports from los angeles. while businesses around the world have been forced to take an unwelcome rest, in the world of animation, production has been gathering pace. we were always set up to be able to be digital. what the pandemic has done is itjust accelerated the transformation into being able to really have a virtual network. there are of course challenges, like launching a feature film when cinemas are closed. that's very disconcerting. even more so perhaps for this one. jungle beach tells the story of a young alien who learns about the power of a hug, potentially a difficult sell while with social distancing. we kind of panicked a bit when we realised the message
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of our film was, you know, loving and hugging, and we were, like, oh, my goodness, in a time when the world has been told to stay away from each other, you know, stay home and don't go near anybody else, and so we just thought let's just spin it and, you know, promote hope and, like, we will hug again, you know! # we are together, together... the idea of promoting hope brought other creative minds together, and even the film's title track was made during the peak of the pandemic. it was a bit daunting, actually. we did vocal5, the final vocal5 the night before mix... till 4:00 in the morning. it'5 unheard of! we were just singing, like, you know, ‘cause it's lots of harmonies and stuff. so we were the choir our5elve5, 'cau5e at the last choru5, you'll hear a bit of a choir thing happening, and it's actually us doing the whole choir! # never alone... but while remote working has created global opportunities for a more diverse talent pool, virtual writers' rooms do have their limitations.
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you can have this very, really very intimate conversation, but as soon as you're trying to hear laughter, it can be hard to hear the laughter and talk over it, which you would normally be doing at a table read or stand—up environment. still want to scream at your mother and then laugh at her tears! but i don't want to scream at my mum. she's not your mum... but in terms of demand for animation, there could be a bit ofa... stampede! and a reminder perhaps as planet earth hopes to hug again, it takes darkness to see the stars. sophie long, bbc news, los angeles. there you go. she was the nation's sweetheart whose songs inspired the soldiers of the second world war. dame vera lynn died last week at the age of 103 — but her music and her charity work ensure that her legacy lives on. now there are calls for her to be remembered another way —
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with a statue on the white cliffs of dover. breakfast‘s john maguire reports. visit mark they'll —— # there will be bluebirds over the white cliffs of dover... reminding us why the white cliffs meant so much to those heading off for coming home from war. a song that spoke to millions. and one that dame vera continue to sing throughout her long career. —— continued. adrian brown remembers playing in her backing band in the 1980s playing in her backing band in the 19805 but connections go back even further. my uncle was a singer in the 20s and 30s and he used to take vera around with him because she was too young to perform in clubs and pubs. i grew up hearing about this
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vera lynn, then in the 80s i got a call to do some shows. it was great just a metre and have a good chat. he believes dover would be the perfect place for a statue in her memory. but why stop at bronze? for everything vera lynn's done for this country, they should be cold vera lynn's cliffs. a section of it for a wonderful woman and people like her, the countries united.” wonderful woman and people like her, the countries united. i actually think that would be an excellent idea, especially for dover. i think thi5 idea, especially for dover. i think this is the ideal place put her. thi5 this is the ideal place put her. this is getting to be sort of a rendezvous where hu5band5 this is getting to be sort of a rendezvous where husbands and wives torn apart by war can be brought together by music. it was her decision to entertain the troops fighting in the burma campaign that secured her place in their affections. george batts was there. and i remember so much, sitting in thejungle, whining and i remember so much, sitting in the jungle, whining and and i remember so much, sitting in thejungle, whining and listening, and we would all be sitting and
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listening around, just listening. and i'm not ashamed to say, if you tear is going down. it really did bring back home. there is a lot of controversy about memorials now, but hers is one that is deserved, can never be argued against, and will be there for the right purpose. the former head of the british army believes a statue would be a fitting tribute. there are a variety of ways to commemorate people but a statue isa to commemorate people but a statue is a very good way of reminding people to someone was, what they did, and! people to someone was, what they did, and i think an appropriate statue in an appropriate place, in this case no—one is going to agree that vera lynn should not have a statue made of her and putting it on or near the white cliffs of dover, how appropriate is that? fa ntastically how appropriate is that? fantastically appropriate. there are several online petitions calling for a statue, but opinions may differ on where it should be placed. what dame
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vera lynn and her music meant to so many people, the hope she provided, is beyond any doubt. john maguire, bbc news, dover. and we are talking to her daughter a little later. 0n the day that was filmed, it was particularly glorious. and we're in for a nice weather over the next few days, as carol can tell us? good morning! good morning to you, too. if you like it sunny, hot and humid, you are certainly in for a spell of weather like that. a bit more cloud as you can see from this lovely weather watchers picture in wales, but this cloud will lift and you will see somesuch and later on. temperatures today are on the up, and as well as that, so is the humidity. and it's notjust by day, it's also by note. so some uncomfortable nights for sleeping in the next couple of notes. you can see quite nicely we are dragging in this warmer continental air and it
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pushing further north briefly across scotla nd pushing further north briefly across scotland where we have yellow still across northern ireland and also western scotland. pictures will not be as high here, then as we head to the latter part of the weekend into the latter part of the weekend into the weekend, things start to change and eventually weather comes in from the atlantic —— temperatures will not be as high here, it will ultimately bit cooler than in the next few days —— it will alternately bit cooler. also the northern ireland and northern scotland we have some rain, of england and north wales' cloud should push through throughout the day and we are looking at some warm sunshine. highs in london of 27, 25 in cardiff, 19 in aberdeen. through this evening and overnight we still have the weather front producing all of this cloud and also ran across scotland and northern ireland. a lot of clear skies, not much for a breath of wind, it isn't going to be a cold night, in fact, wind, it isn't going to be a cold night, infact, the wind, it isn't going to be a cold night, in fact, the opposite is true. it's going to be quite a mild, warm night and a humid one. now, as we had on through tomorrow, we still have our weather front across
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northern scotland and ireland, and thatis northern scotland and ireland, and that is bumping into this area of high pressure moving toward scandinavia and weakening over time. so that we start off with a lot of cloud across northern scotland and ireland, and some rain that will fizzle throughout the day and it was such a brighten up on either side of it. still, for england and wales, a lot of sunshine. some hot sunshine as well, 31—32 quite possible wednesday, somewhere in the south, southeast towards midlands we will have a high uv levels. 22 in aberdeen. belfast, 20 degrees, as you are not really included so much in these high temperatures. 0n thursday, we will see some thunderstorms moving across parts of scotla nd thunderstorms moving across parts of scotland and northern ireland, heavy showers. for the rest of the uk, it will remain dry. it is still going to be hot and sunny but this could see the peak of the heat at 31, 32 or possibly 33. the headlines are coming up next.
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good morning. welcome to breakfast, with louise minchin and dan walker. 0ur headlines today: cinemas, museums and pubs in england are likely to get the green light to reopen. a key decision on whether to cut the two metre social distancing rule is also expected to help make it work. burnley say they're "ashamed and embarrassed" after a banner reading "white lives matter burnley" was flown over the etihad stadium during last night's match against manchester city. "true gentlemen" — the three men stabbed to death in a reading park are
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remembered at a vigil. it's tuesday, 23rd june. our top story: trips to cinemas, restaurants and pubs could soon be possible again in england as part of the government's easing of the lockdown for the leisure industry. borisjohnson is expected to announce that the two—metre social distancing requirement will be reduced to allow venues to reopen next month. there are currently no plans for similar changes in scotland and wales, while in northern ireland the distance has already been cut for schoolchildren. 0ur political correspondent iain watson reports. borisjohnson is set to announce that two will become one. the guidance to stay two metres apart where possible is likely to be halved — in england. borisjohnson will brief the cabinet on the results of a rapid review into the two metres guidance, and is expected to tell them it will change by the july the 4th, the day that further restrictions will be eased.
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the prime minister has been under pressure from the hospitality industry and many of his own mps to change the social distancing rules amid fears that some businesses would otherwise be unviable. so from early next month, england will feel very different. pubs and restaurants reopening, along with cinemas, galleries and museums — and if you're planning a staycation, well, hotels and bed and breakfasts will be allowed to put up their vacancy sign. but businesses and entertainment venues will only be allowed to open if they're covid secure. so as we see in supermarkets now, in some settings there could be screens if you're likely to come close to staff. we'll probably have to follow 1—way systems, and some buildings will also have to improve ventilation. and we'll have to learn from continental countries, which have already relaxed their rules. we may have to get more used to table service when we go out for a drink. hairdressers and barbers may also be allowed to open next month, but don't expect too close a shave. when borisjohnson addresses mps in the house of commons this
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afternoon, he'll make it very clear that if businesses and the rest of us don't follow the new social distancing guidelines, then the easing of restrictions will be reversed. everything won't suddenly go back to normal injuly, but we may find out what the new normal feels like. large parts of the economy will come to life — but not quite as we once knew it. ian watson, bbc news. the guidance for vulnerable people shielding in england will also be relaxed from next month. we're joined now by our political correspondent jonathan blake from westminster. jonathan, what's been the reaction to this? we will be speaking to brandon lewis, the northern ireland secretary, about this and other issues, in about 25 minutes deposit time on the programme. but what has been the reaction to these latest easing is in england? good morning, dan. well, you mentioned the decision to relax the restrictions on those shareholdings, 2 million or
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so people who are judged to be on those shareholdings, 2 million or so people who arejudged to be most vulnerable to coronavirus and who have had in most cases, stay at home without going out at all for the majority of the lockdown, they have been told now that as of the end of july, they will be allowed out, and be allowed to follow the same rules as everybody else. so in england, that means meeting up in groups of up that means meeting up in groups of up to six people outdoors and being able to form a bubble, if they live on their own, with another household, meaning that they can stay overnight at someone else's house, possibly family members. so thatis house, possibly family members. so that is a big shift. although there are warnings from charities that the support isn't quite there for some of those people, who will see those food deliveries and other essential supplies which have been provided for them and as of the end ofjuly, and will not be eligible any longer for statutory sick pay unless they contract coronavirus. so the appeal is going out to employers from the government and charities who have
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been working with those most vulnerable to make sure they can return to work and are not penalised for any time that they have, but they may have to take off in addition. so that is a big change. then we are expected to hear from the prime minister in the house of commons earlier this afternoon about the big changes coming in england as ofjuly four, the two metre rule becomes a one metre rule, with some added guidance to go along with us, possibly the wearing a facemask more widely, and also other sectors of the economy, the hospitality industry, the tourism industry, being able to open up in a limited capacity with social distancing measures in place from july four. the biggest changes yet, since the lockdown was introduced. jonathan, thank you for that detail. just a reminder, if you havejust thank you for that detail. just a reminder, if you have just switched on or you are wondering what is happening through the rest of the morning, at 7:30am we will be speaking to the northern ireland secretary, brandon lewis, for details on that and lots of other issues as well this morning. germany's rate of infection has nearly tripled in three days,
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triggering concerns about a possible second wave of coronavirus cases. an outbreak of covid—19 at a meat plant has helped to push up the r—number, the measure of how fast the virus is spreading, to 2.8. a number below one is seen as necessary to contain the spread of the disease. australia's international borders will remain closed because of coronavirus for a "very significant" amount of time, according to the federal health minister greg hunt. all ports and airports were closed to overseas travellers in march. the country has mostly contained the virus, but its second—largest city melbourne is fighting a surge tributes have been paid to three men who were stabbed to death in a park in reading on saturday, as police continue to question a suspect. a vigil was held last night for friends james furlong, joe ritchie—bennett and david wails at a local pub. 25—year—old khairi saadallah was arrested under the terrorism act on saturday. john mcmanus is in reading now. it was clearly a really emotional night? it was, louise. we have had lots of very warm tribute out of those three men from their friends, family and from wider community as
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well. the last of those victims to be named yesterday was david wails. a friend of his told the bbc has friend or somebody who was very chatty, a very happy man who likes to make others smile, he liked nothing better than to be in the pub with some banter, with some friends, somebody was really going be missed. the american victim of the attack, joe ritchie—bennett, had moved from philadelphia to the uk 15 years ago. he had been in reading working for a pharmaceutical company. his brother, still in the us, described how they used to go out with each other, helping each other on their news rounds, with their bicycles, and said he didn't deserve to go like this. and james furlong, a 36—year—old teacher who was educated in liveable but was a teacher in wokingham, far from here. in liveable but was a teacher in wokingham, farfrom here. we have heard lots of tributes to him, not least from his school, which said he had a real sense of duty and his pupils, who delivered an open letter saying that he was "deeply loved and valued". all three men used to drink
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ata valued". all three men used to drink at a public very close to here, the blargrave arms, and yesterday outside the pub, members of the wider community came together with speeches and music to remember their friends. it is clear these killings have hits the community of reading very hard. i have been walking through town myself, and everybody ha5ju5t not look through town myself, and everybody has just not look happy. through town myself, and everybody ha5ju5t not look happy. which through town myself, and everybody has just not look happy. which 5how5 how hard it has hit everyone, even if you don't know the victims, it is 5till if you don't know the victims, it is still hard to know that somebody from your town has been killed, and it is from your town has been killed, and it i5ju5t a grief from your town has been killed, and it is just a grief for everyone, because we are a tightknit community. the investigation of course continues and police have been given more time, until saturday, to question the suspect, khairi saadallah. we do not know whatever motive he may have had for this. police are still trying to
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discern what that might have been. they say they are not looking for anybody else in connection with the attack. thank you. burnley football clu b attack. thank you. burnley football club are saying they will ban any fa ns club are saying they will ban any fans found to be behind the flame of a banner which said "what lives matter burnley", flown over the pitch at the match against manchester city last night. the message was towed by an aircraft minutes after the players had notes in support of the black lives matter movement. sally has got lots more detail on this this morning. good morning. good morning to you both, and good morning to everybody at home. yeah, in the last few hours, since this incident, there has been a huge reaction to it, that plane that flew over the etihad stadium last night, with the words, as you can see, "what lives matter burnley. to give you a bit of context, this happened around the same time that the players on the pitch took a knee to remember the black lives matter movement that has been happening before all of the premier league
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matches since the restart, and it really is a moment inside the stadium. anybody who has been inside a stadium will talk about how you can heara pin a stadium will talk about how you can hear a pin drop. a stadium will talk about how you can heara pin drop. the a stadium will talk about how you can hear a pin drop. the players became aware of a noise, they looked up became aware of a noise, they looked up and could see the plane without banner. in the moments after that game, the burnley captain, ben mee, was asked about the match. but before he spoke about in that she was so angry by what he saw that he wa nted was so angry by what he saw that he wanted directly address the incident. sure, it made a big impact on our players. we, as a group of players, condemn it. we are ashamed. it completely mi55e5 players, condemn it. we are ashamed. it completely misses the point of what we are trying to achieve a5, you know, as a football community, a5a you know, as a football community, a5 a group, and a5 a group of players, we are really ashamed, it i5a players, we are really ashamed, it is a minority of our supporters and i speak for the main part of our
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5upporter5, we absolutely distance our5elve5 5upporter5, we absolutely distance ourselves from any sort of thing like that stop it is a real shame to 5ee like that stop it is a real shame to see it and it definitely had a ma55ive impact on us to see that in the sky. ben mee receiving huge amounts of praise this morning for the leadership he showed after the match. i have to tell you, burnley football clu b match. i have to tell you, burnley football club released an official statement very quickly last night. they said "burnley football club strongly condemns the actions of those responsible for the aircraft. we wish to make it clear that those responsible are not welcome at turf moor. we apologise unreservedly to the premier league, to manchester city, and to all of those helping to promote black lives matter. so that is very strongly worded, very quick statement from burnley that came in late last night. sally, thank you very much. i know we'll be talking to various people through the programme about it as well. thank you. police in washington have used pepper spray against protesters trying to tear down a statue of the former president, andrew jackson. hundreds of people broke through a six—foot fence around the figure near the white house. a wave of nationwide demonstrations calling for racialjustice has swept
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the united states since the death of george floyd last month. australia's international borders will remain closed because of coronavirus for a "very significant" amount of time, according to the federal health minister greg hunt. all ports and airports were closed to overseas travellers in march. the country has mostly contained the virus, but its second—largest city melbourne is fighting a surge in infections, triggering fears of a second wave. 0ur sydney correspondent shaimaa khaliljoins us now. shaimaa, how concerned are people there? good morning to you, and good evening to you in australia. give us an idea about the level of concern about —— among australians about what is happening? good morning. yes, it is a very worrying trend in melbourne, in victoria. i would say, though, that victoria remains the exception, not the rule. 0ther states have continued to report either zero cases, or in the case of new south wales, where i am, only
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one new covid—19 case. but victoria and melbourne specifically is now the only state that has been experiencing a double—digit increase in covid—19 cases. in melbourne itself, six districts have now been identified as hot spots and travel from within those areas has been restricted. i think a couple of things really worried health officials. 0ne things really worried health officials. one is that most of these cases, and we have over 100, have been through community transmission, so not overseas travel, which means the disease is in the community and is highly infectious, of course. the other thing is that the origins of nearly a dozen of those cases, is unknown. which makes contact tracing really tricky so what they have been doing is going back on the easing of restrictions, reinforcing some of those restrictions, households are now only about five visitors, outdoor gatherings are only allowed ten people. and a large number of police and of health workers have been deployed to these areas to make
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sure that these rules are being followed. that also has an impact on state borders. where i am, in new south wales, people have been urged not to travel to melbourne and tourist operators, because of the school holidays that are coming, they have been told not to engage with people coming from melbourne. now, the prime minister said, look, this is to be expected, we are opening up the economy, more cases are going to pop up. it is part of living with covid—19. but it will surely worry leadership here in australia, because it has done so well in controlling the virus, and now it is being faced with a very real threat of another wave in its second most estate. shaimaa khalil, thank you very much. that is the latest live from sydney for you this morning. very interesting to hear that. "this sacrifice has been for a purpose, and i want to thank every single one of you." those were the words of the health secretary, matt hancock, as he announced major changes to the shielding policy in england. it applies to more than two million extremely vulnerable people who have been asked to isolate at home.
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let's take a look at those changes now. from the 6th ofjuly, shielders in england will be able to meet up to five other people outdoors. and those who live alone, including single parents, can create a support bubble with one other household of any size. then on august the 1st, shielding will be paused in england. that means people who are extremely clinically vulnerable can return to work, if it's safe and they can't work from home. statutory sick pay will be stopped, as will deliveries of food and medicine. however, support will remain available from nhs volunteers and local councils. shielding is also due to come to an end in northern ireland at the end ofjuly. in scotland, the advice there runs untiljuly 31st at the earliest. and in wales, the current guidance on shielding runs until at least august 16th. here's what england's deputy chief medical officer, drjenny harries, had to say about the decision at yesterday's daily briefing.
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now we are out of the peak of the epidemic in the uk and levels of community transition are back to those before it commenced. we may have some summer weather, but our advice to those shielding is to take steps now to start coming back to a more normal lifestyle. this has been a very difficult and sometimes frightening period for people who have been shielding, and therefore, to give people time to prepare, we are setting out the advice in a stepped approach. that speaks to one of those who will be preparing. —— let's speak. lindsay clements, who is shielding along with her 13—year—old daughter, and rebecca steinfield, who is head of policy at national voices, a coalition of health and care
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charities in england. lindsay, you have been shielding with your daughter as well. how it been for you? yeah it's been difficult, at times. my husband is at uni, so he has been off since right other start. it has been difficult, to say the least! how much difference with all of these changes made to you? they are going to make quite a big difference because my daughter has asd as well. since they have relaxed it anyway i have tried to get her to go out for walks, get her to go to the local shop, but she has sort of a moment and couldn't enter. so i think it would take longer than august one to get her back and ready to go back into places. let's go back to rebecca on this as well. there are concerns, but i imagine this could be quite an exciting time to make sure that balance of not seeing anybody for a long time along with
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trying to maintain your mental health at the same time and see some familiarfaces? health at the same time and see some familiar faces? yeah, i think does absolutely right. our health and social care charities, things like diabetes uk, and people like lindsay you have been shielding and sharing stories with us on a platform we have that up called 0ur covid have been very touching. this disease does been very touching. this disease d oes exa ctly been very touching. this disease does exactly very heavy toll. the vagueness of this new advice, the removal of practical support and the lack of employment protections have been highlighted. we do know statutory sick pay will come to an end. is that a real concern for people? yes. ithink end. is that a real concern for people? yes. i think the end of statutory sick pay is a real concern. the furlough scheme is not being standard for people who were shielding. there is vagueness from
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the announcement yesterday for what it means for a business to be covid —safe it means for a business to be covid—safe or covid—secu re. does that mean just a bottle of sanitiser in the office? what if bases can't be safe for somebody or travelling to the work cannot be because you are packed onto a tube train. i think the announcement yesterday, they were relying on the goodwill of employers and i think that was really wea k employers and i think that was really weak and really dangerous. i think we need to beef up employment protections and make them enforcea ble protections and make them enforceable so nobody loses their job because they are in an extremely vulnerable clinical category. on the issue of employment, lindsay, you area issue of employment, lindsay, you are a frontline worker, is that right? i'm no longer a frontline worker. i have lost myjob through this because my work, my employment, couldn't employ anyone else. they had no certainty for how long this
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would go on for and talking to them a few weeks ago, they couldn't guarantee my safety, obviously being a frontline worker, so i no longer have a job stop which has got to be devastating for you and the rest of the family as well. it really is. the qualifications i have, i will probably go for self—employment and having more control over that. and your daughter i5n't back at school yet, she will be going back in september. no, that's right. how are you feeling about that? i'm nervous for her but she goes to a special school with quite a lot of support. i think it is going to take a little bit longer than it normally would. and lindsay, just hearing about the surge of local cases in germany and situation in australia as well, does the thought of a second wave at some stage concern you as well? thinking about not only your daughter but what you mention about going back to
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work if that is possible at some stage? yeah, it does worry me. i love myjob, stage? yeah, it does worry me. i love my job, that's stage? yeah, it does worry me. i love myjob, that's why i do it and i would love to go back as soon as possible and get back to helping people, but like you say with germany, it has tripled in three days, so it is a big worry for my daughter's health and my own. rebecca, i'm watching you listening to what lindsay is staying there in the situation she is facing. nodding and shaking your head at various points. what do you think about this one case, what lindsay is going through with her family? lindsay, my heart goes out to you and your daughter. sadly, the experience you are telling everyone today is really 5imilarto are telling everyone today is really similar to what people have been telling us. i invite people to keep 5haring telling us. i invite people to keep sharing their concerns with us through this platform we have set up, 0urcovidvoice.co.uk, because there is a lot of fear about the removal of support, practical and intangible, going into 5hop5 i5n't what used to be people are very
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worried about the government no longer delivering parcel5 worried about the government no longer delivering parcels in medicine. well, rebecca, it's really good to hear your insight on that. that is rebecca steinfeld, director of policy at national voices and lindsay, with her family. of policy at national voices and lindsay, with herfamily. going back to school in september. those concerns. and will be putting those questions forward later. we did just lose rebecca at the end there. we can speak now to calum semple, who is a professor of 0utbreak medicine at the university of liverpool. he's also a member of the government's scientific advisory committee on covid—19, but is speaking to us in an independent capacity. the morning, good to speak to you, as ever. morning. eight so we talk about shielding? there are real changes people who have been shielding, to someone like lindsay, what would you say, she is anxious.
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thi5 what would you say, she is anxious. this is about balancing the risk of harm and we are starting to see measurable harm5 in adult and child wellbeing. the absolute risk of catching covid i5 wellbeing. the absolute risk of catching covid is a lot lower than it was three weeks ago and a lot lower than it was 6—7 weeks ago, so what we're trying to do now is mostly harm that covid i5 what we're trying to do now is mostly harm that covid is causing, especially the secondary virus against people's wellbeing and secondary education. they were talking about mental health as well? yeah. and we're getting a spiral now where the risk in catching the virus, it is lower in the community now, to put it into perspective, we are averaging 100— 110 cases being admitted to hospital every day across the whole of england, which isa across the whole of england, which is a very different situation to what we were in four weeks ago and eight weeks ago. so now it is a case
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of trying to look after the children. we have seen rises in children. we have seen rises in children are self harming, eating disorders, teenage suicide and problems adults are having. so now is the time to start easing down these restrictions. of the government is doing it in quite a careful way in that we are looking out at least 5.5 weeks before shielding is fully lifted. and should there be a sudden rise in cases, i am sure should there be a sudden rise in cases, i am sure we should there be a sudden rise in cases, i am sure we will see that situation being reviewed potentially ona situation being reviewed potentially on a regional basis. and just looking to germany, we thought a moment ago about the numbers rising there stop —— talk today moments ago —— talked a moment ago but the numbers rising there. are you concerned? these are isolated outbreaks occurring in particular circumstances. the meatpacking areas orfridge storage areas,
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circumstances. the meatpacking areas or fridge storage areas, that seems to suggest the virus prefers cooler areas. given we understand more about the virus than we did before, there is a degree of confidence we can there is a degree of confidence we ca n start there is a degree of confidence we can start to gradually ease off on shielding. can i talk to you about what we are expecting later from the prime minister? which is a big change, the change from perhaps 2m to1m, change, the change from perhaps 2m to 1m, what is the science on that? the science hasn't changed, what has changes is the absolute number of cases in the community. so two metres is still going to be safer than one metre, but if there is no virus in your community, then the risk is zero. if there is no virus, you can't catch it. so it is not that the science has changed, it's just the balance of risk has changed andi just the balance of risk has changed and i sometimes describe it as balancing the risk of harm, because we have no harm —— known harm
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against wellbeing, against the risk of covid—19. against wellbeing, against the risk of covid-19. can we talk about face masks? about them being worn on public transport, the recommendation is to wear them in all small, enclosed spaces. how much without me, do you think? it make some difference because face masks reduce the chance of people spreading it, but it doesn't prevent you from catching it. the biggest thing you can do there is wash your hands and not touch your face. most of this virus is picked up from surfaces, thatis virus is picked up from surfaces, that is touching seatbacks as you get onto trains or handle money, and then we all touch our faces. some people touch their faces 20—30 times an hour, and that is how you get the virus into your nose, eyes and mouth stop so it is back to the old—fashioned washing stop so it is back to the old —fashioned washing your stop so it is back to the old—fashioned washing your hands, not eating in public, because you
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should wash your hands before you snack, and respecting people's social space was that it's going to be very interesting how we identify how people choose to show how they wa nt how people choose to show how they want their personal space respected. you said some people might wear ribbons to show they are shielding. that some people may self identify as shielding? it seems like a good idea, some people have contacted me. many people like to wear badges to show association with black lives matter or prostate cancer. people feel more confident about wearing these adornments. i don't see any harm if people want to wear a badge ora harm if people want to wear a badge or a ribbon that identifies that they would like their social space respected. it seems like a good idea. but exactly not my idea, it came from the public.” idea. but exactly not my idea, it came from the public. i like the way you credit it to someone else. thank
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you. one day we will be able to have you. one day we will be able to have you back here in the studio as well. thank you. oh, the good old days. when you could just walk in here. at some stage, maybe, maybe in a few weeks' time or a few months' time. we have brandon lewis from the government coming in shortly but first of all, most importantly, we have carol he will tell us what will happen for the next few days was a good morning, carol. good morning to you, too. for many of us we are off toa you, too. for many of us we are off to a sunny start as you can see from our weather watchers picture here in leicestershire. but there is some cloud for the forecast over the next couple of days. the commons nominator is it is going to turn hot and humid for england and wales from today, scotland was it briefly over the course of tomorrow, less so on thursday with temperatures still up for northern ireland but you will really mist the highest of those temperatures. that may be a blessing for some. we are dragging in what
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area or warm for some. we are dragging in what area orwarm airfrom for some. we are dragging in what area or warm airfrom the for some. we are dragging in what area or warm air from the continent. look at these yellows, that means you are going to see such high temperatures. then, as we head towards the latter part of the week we have storms moving west — east and then some fronts coming in from the atlantic, bringing in some rain and pressure conditions. it isn't going to be cold, just not be as hot and oppressive as it will be in the next couple of days. a lot of cloud in northern ireland and scotland losing some rain, same cloud or northern england and north wales, the couple moved throughout the day so it will brighten up for you. the rest of england we are looking at a lot of hot sunshine, 27 in london, 17 in belfast, 16 in stornoway. through this evening and overnight we still have a weather front producing all of this cloud and rain across scotland and northern ireland, clear skies for the rest of us. doesn't mean it will be cold, it will still be humid. temperatures
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not falling below double figures, as you can see here, 12—16 across the board. so for wednesday itself, for tomorrow, we still do have a weather front, it is going to be a weak affair, though, because it is bumping into and high high pressure is bumping a little bit further northwards. it's squeezing the energy out of the cold front. so although we will start in northern ireland and scotland with a fair bit of cloud around, with some spots of rain throughout the day the rain will tend to fizzle and it will start to brighten up quite nicely. the rest of england and wales, we are also looking at a lot of sunshine and the pictures responding. 31—32 in london, 22 in aberdeen, but still 20 as we push over towards belfast. i'm quickly going to see you thursday, because we will have some thunderstorms moving across scotland and northern ireland, a lot of dry, hot and sunny weather. there is there could be the hottest day of the week with highs in the south getting up to 33, but not too dissimilar in birmingham, liverpool and glasgow. and it looks
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like it is going to come to an abrupt ending? yes, on friday thunderstorms will come in from the west, moving east. they will introduce more clout and also heavy, thundery showers. so that will have an impact on the temperature, and then with weather switches to the atla ntic then with weather switches to the atlantic as we go into the weekend, so things turn out a bit fresher. we will see rain in some places. carole, thank you. so if you like it hot and humid, it is only going to be around for a few days, as carol says. it has just gone 7:30am. you are watching access. ‘— gone 7:30am. you are watching access. —— breakfast. cinemas, restaurants and pubs could soon be opening their doors again in england as part of the government's easing of the lockdown for the leisure industry. borisjohnson is expected to announce that the two—metre social distancing requirement will be reduced to help the businesses reopen. there are currently no plans for similar changes in scotland and wales, while in northern ireland the distance has already been cut for children in schools.
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germany's rate of infection has nearly tripled in three days, triggering concerns about a possible second wave of coronavirus cases. we can speak now to northern ireland secretary brandon lewis who joins us from great yarmouth. can we start with that issue of social distancing? we have just can we start with that issue of social distancing? we havejust been speaking to that professor who does advise backstage on occasions. give us an idea about the science behind it, because some of those sage advisers are saying the infection increases by as much as ten times at one metre, compared to two metres. is this all about balancing risk? well, it is about understanding and taking a few about what is appropriate based on the advice given. final decisions have not been made on this yet. we're meeting is a cabinet ina made on this yet. we're meeting is a cabinet in a couple of hours. i also be talking with the chancellor of the duchy of lanchester with the devolved authorities, scotland, wales and northern ireland, this morning, so we have a uk wide approach and understanding the decisions that we will make in cabinet today. the prime minister will make that announcement later
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today. it is also about understanding that different experts have different views, and there are also differences around how this virus spreads. in the open air it is very different, very difficult for the virus to spread and open hour, so that is why we say that an enclosed space is like public transport people should wear face masks and things like that. we'll be looking at the chief medical advice and the scientific advice in cabinet today and once those decisions are made, the pm will make an announcement later today. but it is expected that distance will come down from two metres to one metre. i think you would probably accept that. i am sure that you have seen pictures from parks and various social gatherings over the last few days. is there a concern that, if there is to be this change, and it feels but for many people it is an end to quite a few of the restrictions they have been facing for many weeks, how do you then convince people to follow those rules and to stop the virus from coming back to stop the spread? there is a couple of things end up.
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first of all, the reason we are in this place where we can make these kinds of decisions, i stress that we have not made these decisions yet, we will be doing that later this morning. but the reason we are in this position is because so many people, the vast majority of people, have followed the guidelines throughout this virus and we have seen the spread of this virus also much over the last few weeks that we can much over the last few weeks that we ca n start much over the last few weeks that we can start getting to the point where we can make these decisions. i will also add to the point that was made some time ago by david navarro at the world health organization, when he outlined, on the bbc, that we are all, as we go forward, with this virus, globally, going to have to think differently ourselves, with our own self responsibility, and maybe keep this virus down is that we will practice good, healthy practices, and one of the key ones is always remembering to wash our hands regularly, think about the services we touch, things like facemasks, and any open hour there is obviously a difference, because the virus does not spread in the
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same way, it is just being aware of what we do and what that new normal lives. talk about that new normal. we have been speaking to a lot of business owners on this programme, and particularly those in the bar and particularly those in the bar and restaurant industry, concerned about social distancing changes, concerned about reopening. in terms of enforcing those rules, what will happen for pub landlords, you know, the imposition of penalties for making sure customers don't get too close to each other? particularly, as many have been mentioning over the last 48 hours, what happens when pubs do reopen and people start drinking and when they start imbibing, they obvious to get a bit closer to each other, how does that get policed? closer to each other, how does that get policed ? how closer to each other, how does that get policed? how do you maintain social distancing in that sort of example? well, look, i appreciate some people may have a few about the ability of people while drinking to continue to remember good social distancing guidelines. we all have to remember to it, it comes back to
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social awareness. i represent a tourism and hospitality constituency in northern ireland, it is huge, and one thing that i do know about pubs and restaurant across the uk, something they are very, very alert to and very focused on, is the safety of their customers. we are going to be giving guidelines, so if you do make decisions later today, guidelines will come through for resonances, how they can work and how they can function, and what is expected of them to provide a safe and healthy environment for all the customers, and also for all of their staff stop there is a question here from the landlord specifically saying, could he face a penalty of customers do not maintain that distance? well, look, i don't want to get to have any decisions...” know you so you don't want to get to a head, but that is really important concern for lots of people who are trying to find out how they reopen and restart their business after being closed for such a long time, and that is a fundamental concern for him, and i'm sure many others in that situation? absolutely. and i
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accept that and understand that. but we haven't made the final decisions yet, and will be having that discussion on this morning. the prime minister will make an announcement later today, and if there are any changes, they will be guidelines coming through from the government in advance of when businesses can open, if we make those decisions, so they will have clear guidance and clear outlines exactly how this process can work and what they do as a business, to reopen, should we make that decision, and to do so in a way that is safe for both customers and their staff. i feel we might is safe for both customers and their staff. i feelwe might get is safe for both customers and their staff. i feel we might get the same a nswer to staff. i feel we might get the same answer to this one as well, but will also be speaking to a campsite under this morning, and his concern is about the reopening, which they were not to be able to do for the customers and also to try to generate some business as well, but about shared facilities. —— which they would love to be able to do. he says at the moment they can reopen, but they will be operating at a loss. how will they get guidance about how they can try to function again asa about how they can try to function again as a business, but maintain those guidelines so that they aren't crossing the boundaries? yeah, look,
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i understand that. that is why the government has been working with the industry, and why i myself have spoken to the owners of a couple of companies that are the larger companies that are the larger companies across the uk, owning a range of plants across the uk, including visiting one of my own constituency where they showed me what they think they can do to function and continue to work, because of course if they are carried out sites they have to be five metres apart anyway, what they can change and how they might function in terms of how to use those internal facilities. function in terms of how to use those internalfacilities. these are all things that have been in discussion between the industry and between the department of communities and local government, as well as the department that looks after hospitality, dcms, 0liver doubted the secretary of state, have been having those just —— discussions. if we do decide to ease the guidelines will be able to given advance notice with clear guidelines so they can function in an advanced way. another thing that is a big topic of discussion today for many of our viewers is all about those who are shielding, which is over 2
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million people in the uk. you are reiterating how seriously pandemic is. i think we're getting that a lot at the moment, understandably. the importance of staying at home has been place for many months for this particular group of people, especially those with serious health conditions. so what has changed? what is the thinking around this? because there are many, we have spoken to some this morning, young lady called lindsay, who has been at home, she lost herjob and has been looking after her daughter, was also shielding. she wants to know about what sort of reassurances she can get from yourself or from the government about how she can return to normal life, having been told yesterday at home for the last three months? yes, i think a number of us will know, i personally know people who are shielding because they are ina who are shielding because they are in a vulnerable position. it has been a really difficult experience of people, both in terms of mental health as well as the physical factor of staying at home. what we're saying to those people that from july sixth they will be able to, and they can start doing what many of us were doing in the early days of lockdown, which is when we
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we re days of lockdown, which is when we were staying at home but able to get out and do that bit of shopping, get that exercise, in the open hour, following good social distancing. so we are very clear that they should continue to follow social distancing. fullshielding continue to follow social distancing. full shielding itself does not end until the end ofjuly and we will be issuing further guidelines for people. but this is about looking at how those levels, we saw the levels go from level four to level three, we saw that averted the spread of the virus dramatically out in the community. so it does become safer and easier for people to get out and about, as long as they are following particle guidelines like social distancing, wearing face masks in enclosed spaces, and things like that. i'm sorry to interrupt you, but some of their key concerns are around some of those important support measures which they have been able to use, things like food packages, which are coming to an end. the question about statutory sick pay as well. the feeling is that for many people in that situation, they are going to be forced to choose between our financial security and their health. which is a really difficult position, and an uncomfortable place to find themselves in. you say to those people this morning? obviously
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there is a range of packages that we have put in place for the economy, including fellow schemes and support packages for employers and employees, which will stay in place for some time, the chancellor has already announced they will stay in place until at least 0ctober. —— furlough scheme. but there are aspects of the shielding support package that will remain in place. so the priority around being able to make food bookings, food supplies from supermarkets, those kinds of things will stay in place as well. but we have got to look at what we do and how we can ensure that we start to give people an opportunity to get back to some form, it is a new form of normality, and ability to get out, good for your mental health, and the pathway to get back to work. mr lewis, we are about to go and speak to sally, who is going to be looking at what happened in the manchester city game against burnley last night. forgive my ignorance, iam not burnley last night. forgive my ignorance, i am not sure if you are a football fan or not, but you don't
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need to be to comment on what happened at that game last night, i am sure you saw the banner flying over the match which said "white light matter burnley". what is your response to this morning? well actually, i have not seen that, but that sounds like a somewhat inappropriate and insensitive thing to be flying around. at any time, actually, let alone at the moment. i have to say, i haven't seen it, but it doesn't seem like a sensible thing for anybody to have done, seems a pretty poor taste and judgement to me. brandon lewis, northern ireland secretary, thank you forjoining us on the programme this morning. brandon lewis, obviously, sally, not having seen what happened last night, but the club, burnley, they have roundly condemned what happened. they are still trying to investigate who paid for that and how it came about. so i expect we'll hear a bit more about what we saw last night and watch the reaction to it has been? yes, a strong reaction from the club, from their fans, yes, a strong reaction from the club, from theirfans, and also from their captain. they have issued an apology, they did that last night.
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they say they are ashamed and embarrassed after that banner displaying the message "white lives matter burnley" was flown over the etihad stadium during that match against manchester city last night. the aircraft circled over the stadium just after kick—off, before which players and staff from both sides had taken a knee in support of the black lives matter movement. burnley say they'll ban anyone found to have been involved. i don't know what the club will think about how they can continue to send the message out. we certainly do as much as we can and we work ha rd do as much as we can and we work hard in the community. i know that the powers that be will look at ways that we can at least play our part in support the good work. the independent‘s chief football writer miguel delaneyjoins us now from his home in south—west london. good morning to you. thank you very much indeed for speaking to us this morning. you have written a really strong piece today, talking about why this is such an important moment. why does it matter so much?
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well, i mean, if youjust moment. why does it matter so much? well, i mean, if you just stand back, the very fact of what has become a far right statement being flown over a football stadium, premier league football stadium, is remarkable. it is stunning, really. it illustrates the importance of the black lives matter movement, and how important it is going forward, and how this must be confronted. what do you make of the club's response to this so far? i think they were impressively quick in the way it came up after halftime, and we have seen the situation similarly across europe were clubs have initially tried to distance themselves, there has been a bit of scuffling which has been a bit of scuffling which has compensated the problem. that was not the case with burnley. they apologise straightaway. we honestly do not know the full details yet, how it came about, the plane being flown under the banner at the scene. there is lots of speculation on social media but is still unverified. but the club themselves
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made that position unequivocal. as with many issues at the moment in sport and in politics, we are seeing a real divide in opinions, and that is certainly something we have seen on the programme this morning. can you explain to the people who perhaps don't find this a questionable act, can you explain to those people who are saying to us this morning, white lives do matter, we should be free to do what we want and slightest banner, what would you say to them? well, the fundamental issue here is black lives matter is a statement that has come out in response to an issue in america about these dis— —— as systemic institutional racism that resulted in the death of george floyd. it is ultimately about striving for equality, not separation. 0ver striving for equality, not separation. over a statement like wave lives matters —— white lives
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matter used in a way it hasn't been used before is provocative and ultimately a rejection of the message of equality. we saw the riots, i'm not going to say protests, in london and given the number of football supporters that we re number of football supporters that were mentioned at being involved in that, that was a huge issue for the game to confront. and yeah, we saw with the timing of the plane, it's a specific reaction to the statement and the way the game has very admirably embraced the blm movement. so again, it is something that has to be confronted, yes. mcgill, great to be confronted, yes. mcgill, great to talk to you. mcgill delaney from the independent, who has written a powerful piece for them. i'm joined now byjulian
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jordan, who is a burnley season ticket holder. good morning to you, julian, thank you for talking to us. tell me, first of all, what is it like to be a burnley fan and see that banner? i'm disgusted. it feels like we have been globally humiliated by far—right morons, to be honest. been globally humiliated by far-right morons, to be honest. why do you think it is important for you to come on here and explain your position as a burnley fan? well, i think it's important that there are people who say that doesn't represent me, i don't think it represents the town. i think it's a humiliation and we are much better represented by the words spoken by the club captain at the end of the game yesterday. and how important is the leadership of players like bentley? i know he was asked for his reaction regarding the result, a 5—0
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loss, he didn't want to talk about that, he said he was ashamed and embarrassed. how important is it that players of every race and colour are open about this?” that players of every race and colour are open about this? i think it's massively important. we need to challenge these ideas. it shouldn't be normalised. i think someone who has a prominent platform like that tea m has a prominent platform like that team leader spoke responsibly and in a way that should be supported by footballers everywhere. thank you, julian. as for the game itself at the etihad, manchester city won 5—0 to ensure liverpool's wait for the title goes on a little longer. the victory for city means liverpool cannot now win the premier league title against crystal palace at anfield tomorrow. phil foden scored twice for city, as did riyadh mahrez in a comfortable win. although, that five nil and the implications of it are hugely
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overshadowed by the banner and words on it last night. thank you, sally. the coronavirus has brought challenges to many people, but some are struggling to make ends meet. some are turning to charities to get by. our correspondent has found one charity delivering food parcels with a difference. a special food delivery in west doll, london, where community members are running around to help those in need. we are waiting for 300— 400 meals. to help those in need. we are waiting for 300- 400 meals. the start of the pandemic, every week, these volunteers have been distributing food parcels to around 1500 local residents, many of them children. many from families not used to receiving handouts.” children. many from families not used to receiving handouts. i would not put it as pride, but a lot of
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people are anxious about being recipients of something free. they have worked hard all their lives, and believe in hard work paying off. now they had to face a reality where they are without jobs. the boxes are still not just with food, but educational items, too. we wanted them to have something to look forward to. you know, a new pack of books, you know, instead of giving them a handout we are giving them a hand out. these children's parents both lost their jobs.
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hand out. these children's parents both lost theirjobs. we were both working long hours, so it is embarrassing when you go down the road and just wait for the food. the box might help, but the pain and shame from having to use food banks is all too clear. we can't even afford food for the kids. while the pandemic fuels hunger, volunteers say they will continue delivering supplies in boxes to reduce the stigma for those forced to rely on charity. sucking on mood, bbc news. —— mahmoud, bbc news. tributes have been paid to three men who were stabbed to death in a park
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in reading on saturday. james furlong, joe ritchie—bennett and david wails have been described as true gentlemen. last night they were remembered during a vigil at a local pub where they regularly met. one man who attended that vigil is michael main, who is a friend of james, joe and david. hejoins us now from reading. thank you so much forjoining us. tell us about the atmosphere that night? the atmosphere? there was an aura of sadness, which shows how many people with this killing has affected. and you are friends with them all, how did you meet them?” met them six years ago, it was my first time renting and david had come up to me and introduced himself to me and invited me into his group. it showed what kind of person david was. yeah. and i wanted to talk
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about them of. tell us about david, he said he was very kind? yes, the thing i remember the most about david was his dry sense of humour, the fact he could show a genuine interest in how you actually felt and he would do anything for anyone that he could. and let's talk about james as well. we know he was a teacher and was working hard, so many of his students have been paying tribute to him. yes, he was passionate about being a teacher, he was very political, he was obsessed with history and he was doing during several groups. he was down to earth. i know a student of his, they said how inspirational he was as a teacher. i was made aware there was a petition around the school to change the humanities block in his
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name. to cull the james furlong building or some version of that. that would be a great tribute. and what about joe? joe? where do i start with joe? he was what about joe? joe? where do i start withjoe? he was the life and soul of the one—man joe start withjoe? he was the life and soul of the one—manjoe party, if you understand what i meant was that he would be the centre of attention if he was alone in a room or with 100 people. he was a happy—go—lucky, true and unique individual. you will never find anybody like joe. and you all had a connection with reading pride? we all went. i was lucky enough to be on the committee last year and enough to be on the committee last yearandi enough to be on the committee last yearand i had enough to be on the committee last year and i had always seen them at
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most prides. i was helping out as a volunteer or committee member. and you used to spend a lot of time in the pub with them? it's going to be really ha rd, the pub with them? it's going to be really hard, isn't it? it is. it is going to be quite difficult not to walk in and not have either of them walk in and not have either of them walk in. it's quite sad. i'm proud to call them my friends and i am proud to actually have been able to spend it is past six years with them —— these past six years. spend it is past six years with them -- these past six years. and you are going to meet them as well?“ -- these past six years. and you are going to meet them as well? if i hadn't been called to work, because i was told in on an alarm court, i was going to message them and tried meet up with them, yeah. and how
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would you best remember them, do you think? they are just amazing, caring and beautiful man. they couldn't hurt a fly. they were so kind. —— men. i appreciate your time. thank you very much for your time, michael, a prissy eight it is difficult. —— i appreciate it is difficult. there's all sorts of talk on social media and in the papers about the weather and potentially records being broken. carol can tell us what is going to happen for the next few days. good morning, carol. good morning to you. to break thejune record we would have to stop 35.6dc, it's unlikely we think that is going to happen in the next couple of when temperatures rise. what we have this morning is a lot of blue skies
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across many areas, this is the weather watchers picture sent in from london. and as we go through the next few days, it's notjust the temperature is rising, it is also the humidity. are not also by day, also by night, so some uncomfortable notes was sleeping in in the next couple. what is happening is we're dragging in all of this warm or hot continental air across our shores, look at the others across western scotla nd look at the others across western scotland and northern ireland. you, temperatures won't be as high. and then as we head on into the weekend we have a line of thunderstorms adding west— east, and atlantic fronts come in on the weekend bringing rain and fresher conditions, not colder, just fresher, we will have highs of 33 degrees, more likely 26. for today because northern ireland and scotla nd because northern ireland and scotland there is a lot of cloud and some rain for england and wales. cloudy in north wales and northern england this morning, this will push northwards allowing such changes come through. averages in belfast,
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17 degrees, 27 in a whole, 27 —— 27 in hulland 17 degrees, 27 in a whole, 27 —— 27 in hull and london. 17 degrees, 27 in a whole, 27 —— 27 in hulland london. clear 17 degrees, 27 in a whole, 27 —— 27 in hull and london. clear skies across england and wales. but that doesn't mean temperatures are going to fall away, we will be in double figures and it is going to feel humid, so the first of uncomfortable notes in this speller. 0n humid, so the first of uncomfortable notes in this speller. on wednesday, the weather front still very much with us. high pressure drifts further north towards scandinavia and exerts its influence on this weather front, so it and exerts its influence on this weatherfront, so it is and exerts its influence on this weather front, so it is going to fizzle and we can. we started wednesday with all this cloud in some rain but the rain will fizzle throughout the course of the day. it will brighten up, we will see some sunshine and sunshine once again across england and wales, 25 in liverpool, but still 20 in belfast. and for thursday this could well be the day the temperature is peak, heavy showers in northern ireland
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and scotland, some of those will be heavy. for much of the uk we are looking at a lot of dry weather, a lot of sunshine and hot sunshine at that. now, we could hit 33 degrees in london on thursday, 31 in birmingham, 21 in aberdeen, 23 in belfast, so you can see the difference in those temperatures. but then during the course of friday, a line of thunderstorms coming in from the west will be pushing eastwards. that will have an impact on the temperature, we think, and then on saturday as atlantic fronts come our way we are looking ata fronts come our way we are looking at a change in the weather. so there will be some rain coming in and you can see the difference in temperatures as they slip a bit. that's it from me. headlines are coming up.
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good morning, welcome to breakfast with louise minchin and dan walker. 0ur headlines today: cinemas, museums and pubs in england are likely to get the green light to reopen. a key decision on whether to cut the two metre social distancing rule is also expected to help make it work. campsites and holiday parks in england are worried they will be left out of plans to reopen in early july because of shared facilities like hot tubs and pools. the detail in the government announcement could make the difference between profit and loss for businesses like these. burnley say they're ashamed and embarrassed after a banner reading white lives matter burnley was flown over the etihad stadium
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during last night's match against manchester city. "true gentlemen" — the three men stabbed to death in a reading park are remembered at a vigil. # we'll meet again. # we'll meet again. # don't know why, don't know when. there are growing calls for a statue to dame vera lynn — we'll speak to her daughter about how best to honour her contriburion to the nation. —— to honour her contribution. it's tuesday 23rd july. our top story: a relaxation of lockdown rules is expected to be announced by the prime minister later today, as the leisure industry prepares to reopen after three months. here's what we know. cinemas, hair salons and pubs are set to reopen in england on the 4th ofjuly — providing safety measures are in place. and the current two metre social distancing requirement could be cut down to one metre to allow venues to reopen. there are currently no plans
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for similar changes in scotland and wales, while in northern ireland the distance has already been cut for schoolchildren. meanwhile, the guidance for vulnerable people shielding in england will also be relaxed from next month. let's get more on all this with our political correspondent jonathan blake from westminster. jonathan, there are possibly real changes ahead? jonathan, there are possibly real changes ahead ? what jonathan, there are possibly real changes ahead? what can you tell us? the biggest changes since the lockdown was introduced in england, for sure. the prime minister is expected to announce in the house of commons this lunchtime that the two metre rule will be reduced, people will only need to keep a distance of one metre apart when out and about. that may come with added guidance, for example on the wearing of facemasks in most settings. and then most sectors of the economy which have been shut down for three months also will be allowed or encouraged to open up from july the 4th —— more
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sectors of the economy. pubs, restau ra nts, sectors of the economy. pubs, restaurants, bars, cafes, museums, galleries, cinemas and mobil be able to open their doors, with social distancing measures in place, from a week on saturday. this marks a big shift, not only do ministers feel that given that the viruses largely under control and there are now relatively few cases in the uk and the number of people dying from the disease has been greatly reduced, they feel it is safe to do this, but also the huge amounts of money spent asa also the huge amounts of money spent as a result of the government trying to keep people in work and avoid mass unemployment and support for industries and various parts of the economy can't continue, there comes a point where they had to try to get things back to something like normal, that is what we are now approaching. but it does not come without risk, there is a warning from the government that if people
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do not follow the guidelines closely then these latest measures which have been relaxed will be the first to be reversed. that would have course be very difficult to do. northern ireland secretary brandon lewis, who you had been speaking to in the last hour also, was as particularly in pubs how people can be expected to follow the social distancing rules that will be in place even after a few drinks.” appreciate some people might have a view about the ability as people drink for them to continue to member good social guidance, it comes back to self—awareness, we will all have to self—awareness, we will all have to do that. i represent a tourism and hospitality constituency, and i used to be the pubs minister. pubs and restaurants across the uk are very alert to, very aware of and focused on the safety of their customers. we will be giving some guidelines, so if we make these decisions later today guidelines
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will come through for businesses to know how they can work and function and what is expected of them. while this will be welcome news for the prime minister to announce later and for many businesses in the hospitality sector to hear, it will come without warning. although the viruses under control, it has not gone away and the big risk and fear for those in government is that doing this could lead to a second wave of cases, something ministers will want to avoid at all costs. so many people will be listening closely to hear the exact details. thank you, jonathan. burnley football club says it will ban any fans found to be behind the flying of a banner saying white lives matter burnley during its match at manchester city last night. you might have seen that during the match yesterday if you were watching. the message was towed by an aircraft moments after the players had knelt in support
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of the black lives matter movement. sally has been speaking to people throughout the programme. a quick reaction from burnley, a quick reaction from the players, and as you said, we have heard from the pfa talking about why it is important that this does not happen, why the message flow and that banner across the etihad is so damaging just at this point that we feel the black lives matter movement is having such huge support from football in particular and transport in general, really interesting last night. burnley captain ben mee was asked immediately after the 5—0 defeat about the match itself and he said he did not want to talk about that, he wanted to get something out —— off his chest about what had happened at this banner.m —— off his chest about what had happened at this banner. it made a big impact on our players. a5 happened at this banner. it made a big impact on our players. as a group of players, we contaminate, we
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are ashamed, we are embarrassed, it completely misses the point of what we are trying to achieve as a foot ball we are trying to achieve as a football community, as a group of players. it is a minority of our supporters. the main part of our supporters. the main part of our supporters distance ourselves from anything like that, it was a real shame to see and it made a massive impact to see that in the sky. isn't that an interesting point, that it impacted the players themselves. they were beaten 5—0 and he mentioned more than once that what they had seen certainly bothered them and affected their performance on the pitch. this is what burnley said last night. we want to make it clear that those responsible for theirs are not welcome at turf moor, we apologise unreservedly to the premier league, to manchester city, to all of those helping to promote
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black lives matter. that statement came at very quickly last night and they are definite in their condemnation of that banner being flown across the etihad. thank you, sally. i know the reaction to that story will continue through the day. we have had a number of interviews and that this morning. police in washington have used pepper spray against protestors trying to tear down a statue of the former president, andrew jackson. hundreds of people broke through a six—foot fence around the figure near the white house. a wave of nationwide demonstrations calling for racialjustice has swept the united states since the death of george floyd last month. tributes have been paid to three men who were stabbed to death in a park in reading on saturday, as police continue to question a suspect. a vigil was held last night for friends james furlong, joe ritchie—bennett and david wails at a local pub. 25—year—old khairi saadallah was arrested under the terrorism act on saturday. john mcmanus is in reading now.
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good to talk to you, john. we just heard from somebody who knew all three of those men and spoke with great honesty about the virtual last night, what it meant to many others who were there. as you have explained to the rescue days, reading is trying to come to terms with what happened over the weekend? n as with what happened over the weekend? —— as you have explained over the last few days. in terms of the tributes we are hearing how much warmth and regard those three men we re warmth and regard those three men were held in by theirfriends, family and the communities they were pa rt family and the communities they were part of in reading, it is giving us a sense of the lives they were leading. david wails, the final victim to be named yesterday, had a friend who spoke to the bbc and described him as loving banter, he liked to go to the pub, talk to his friends, make them smile and was a lwa ys friends, make them smile and was always laughing, somebody he will be very sorely missed. joe ritchie—bennett was the american who came from philadelphia to the uk 15 yea rs came from philadelphia to the uk 15 years ago, making a careerfor
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himself in the pharmaceutical industry in reading, but his brother talked about how they messed around on bikes as children, helping each other with their paper rents. he said the family, quite naturally, we re said the family, quite naturally, were heartbroken and he said he did not think it was right its brother had gone that way. and there was also james furlong, 36—year—old teacher from liverpool who also james furlong, 36—year—old teacherfrom liverpool who had been working in nearby wokingham. his school held a very heartfelt tribute unit yesterday and his peoples penned an open letter, saying he was deeply loved and valued. all three men drank at a pub not far from here, the regulars of that pub gathered yesterday with speeches and songs to remember their friends. people here very death —— very deeply affected. in terms of the investigation, that continues, police have been given more time to question the suspect in the case, khairi saadallah, they furlong, 36—year—old teacher from liverpool who had been working in nearby wokingham. his school held a very heartfelt tribute unit yesterday and
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his peoples penned an open letter, saying he was deeply loved and valued. all three men drank at a pub not far from valued. all three men drank at a pub not farfrom here, the regulars of that pub gathered yesterday with speeches john mcmanus, that pub gathered yesterday with speechesjohn mcmanus, live that pub gathered yesterday with speeches john mcmanus, live from reading, thank you. now a concert with a difference. an opera house in barcelona has put on its first concert since the coronavirus outbreak — but it wasn't your typical performance. the audience was made up of more than 2000 pot plants, which were then given to frontline health workers. the concert took place a day after spain's state of emergency came to an end after more than three months. a while ago, dan asked for puns, did you get any? are they worth reading? the vast majority were pretty poor, but it was early in the morning. here are the best two, chris has gone full the title for this being 0rchestral manoeuvres in the park. and allen says the problem with that is it was not a real audience, they we re is it was not a real audience, they were a plant. now, that is good!
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lets move on! it's more than three months since the hospitality trade was asked to close its doors to prevent the spread of coronavirus. today the prime minister is expected to announce that the two metre rule will be relaxed, and businesses can reopen early next month. so how will pubs and restaurants be keeping their staff and customers safe? coming out of hibernation takes a lot of planning and at the withy arms in leyland, landlord lee is working out how much stock he'll need. he hopes to reopen on the 4th ofjuly, but only if the two—metre rule is halved. if the two—metre rule stays in place, it won't be profitable for us to open, open the business. it probably won't even break even. the pub would be running at half capacity, which isn't good in any sense. the uk beer and pub industry is worth £23 billion, lee says his small chain of four pubs in lancashire is in some ways
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ahead of the curve. instead of going to the bar, customers are being encouraged to use apps to order their drinks. all you need is a phone, you tell it which table you're at, what you want, and then you pay for it. and the order is then passed to the team. the government is likely to encourage more pubs to operate in this way. it not only avoids queues inside, it's also helping businesses to trade safely. thank you. and one things for sure, technology is likely to play a big role in kickstarting the hospitality sector. these apps would also have a public health role, a way to trace and alert pubgoers if they have been come into contact with a coronavirus case. ian designs apps for the food and drink industry and says demand has increased tenfold
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in the last month. the businesses that are enquiring has changed massively as well. so we are talking to holiday sites where they have static vans. they might be using it for ordering to the vans or for restaurants and hotels and stuff that's on—site. we're talking to butchers, it used to be restaurants, takeaway and pubs, but now every business can sort of embrace it and use it. the hospitality sector is calling out for detailed advice on what reopening will look like. will there be a limit on the number of drinkers and even the time allowed inside a pub? we're looking forward to getting clarity from the government today and the guidance that will have follow. also, the date confirmed, but crucially a move from two metres down to one metre would make a significant difference for pubs. it's the difference between one third opening under two, or two—thirds being able to open under one metre.
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the uk's 47,000 pubs are being forced to change. so, will they still appeal to customers? if there was a pub open now, we would go to it. if the measures in place determine that you've got to use an app, then yeah, i'd probably go for it as well. the whole point of socialising is mingling, and if you're constantly being told to stay away from each other or something like that, or people are looking at you because you're getting close, people are drunk or things like that, then i think it will take away from some of that, yeah. i would like it — i'd love to see my mates and go for a pint, definitely. in a world where crowds are the new enemy, some question whether the restrictions will take the fun out of going to the pub, or if the pull of the pint in the sunshine will hard to resist. sarah corker, bbc news, in leyland. it is details we want. sarah is outside a restaurant for us in liverpool and will show us around.
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morning! good morning from merseyside, pubs and restaurants here have been busy scenario planning for how and when they can reopen, and that date is just 11 days away. this restaurant is one of 13 chains across the uk, if i show you inside they will be having a one—way system, there will be disposable menus, customers will be asked to play, —— to pay on co nta ctless asked to play, —— to pay on contactless but the big thing here is if there was a reduction in the two metre realty one metre, it would make a massive difference. this side of the restaurant is set up a one metre, that would mean operating at 80% of normal capacity. this is at one metre, and the owner who we will be chatting with shortly, says it would not be worth opening if you have this two metre gap. that is the big challenge, you are waiting for that clarity from the government on the guidelines about how you can
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reopen? absolutely, we need clarity and that rejection. it is hope for hospitality and retail. this is two metres, we are at 30 or 40% capacity, one metre, you are at 80%. for hospitality, it is 60% revenue before you can even look after yourself, clean your own face, so that increased revenue means we can operate, we do not have to lose a single job. i have 500 employees, operate, we do not have to lose a singlejob. i have 500 employees, i have not had to lose anyone yet. if it remains two metres, it is 140 people be would have to look at, which would be a tragedy. if we have that increase revenue we can start to build again, we can build four restaurants a, each create 80 jobs and the building industry resurrects. you see this cascade down to the economy and a real resurrection, re—emergence. so much hangs on that two metres diminishing. whether it is two
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metres or one metre, how the un force that if people are enjoying themselves, having a bit of wine, perhaps forgetting the rules, how as a business to you politely remind them? that is what we do for a living, we are consummate professionals at marshaling people together in social settings. what has been a real revelation is what have we missed the most during lockdown? it has been gathering together with friends and family over a meal and together with friends and family overa mealand a together with friends and family over a meal and a drink. people are doing that on the hillsides, on the beachesin doing that on the hillsides, on the beaches in a completely... in a crazy way that has been making the headlines. bring that body of people to us and we can shepherd them through this in a covid secure way, and it is those guidelines we need to work collaboratively with government to avoid a second peak, that whether the end of the hospitality industry. what issues do you need clarity on from government? we expect more detail on how
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restau ra nts ca n we expect more detail on how restaurants can be covid secure, we should get that today, what are the issues you need clarity on? the very practicality from when they walk in the dough. we had guessed at that and urge on the side of caution, the one—way systems, can we have cutlery one—way systems, can we have cutlery on the tables? they question for restaurateurs, we opened our booking lines and thankfully we have been inundated with family groups who wa nt inundated with family groups who want to come in, using restaurants in the way they would use their living rooms, which is hope, but what is the maximum size of booking? i hope there will be a bit more guidance on how large the groups can be that will get together, the practicalities of who we wear masks or not, is that required or not? —— do we wear masks? lots of restaurants had guessed at guidelines, airing on the side of the extreme, but that involves us haemorrhaging cash and we need to stop doing that, stop paying for
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things we don't need, start paying for the right things to make these restaurants secure. lots of work for restau ra nts restaurants secure. lots of work for restaurants to do. the big unknown is how quickly customers come back. will they want to splash the cash and will socially distanced dining be enjoyable? businesses hope by putting these safety measures in place they can reassure customers and get them back out and about spending money. really interesting to see inside a restaurant, thank you, sarah. it's notjust bars and restaurants that are preparing for reopening. this is the great news. hopefully hairdressing salons will reopen too. richard ward owns a hairdressing salon in chelsea, and hejoins us now. thank you forjoining us, we can't see you terribly well but i think you can give us an idea of what two metres, one metre might look like in your salon? morning, louise. we are here in our colour zone, we have 18
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colourists working at any one time. we are desperate for this to be one metre, because if the two metre restriction stay in place, we will have to skip out every other chair, which means instead of dealing 18 customers having colour, we can only have nine. that is hugely financially detrimental to our business. richard, how hard has it been for you and i sure many others in the industry since things were close ? in the industry since things were close? 0bviously in the industry since things were close? obviously you have been abiding by the rules but i imagine you are desperate to open your doors ain? you are desperate to open your doors again? hairdressersjust love to cut her, we are a people industry and we love our clients coming back and rebooting, it is all about the people. i have a team of 110 that work with me in the salon and i haven't seen them, we have had a group company whatsapp we have been communicating on but we are alljust desperate, itching to get back and
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see our clients, see each other and cuts in hair, it has been very frustrating, to be honest.” cuts in hair, it has been very frustrating, to be honest. i am sure your feelings are echoed by people who need their hair perch. what would you change? there are rumours that magazines are right, chatting is out? the thing is, we have not had any definitive guidelines, just like the leisure industry. we haven't had any definitive guidelines yet and are desperate for them to come out tomorrow. i was here the other day clearing everything out, we have taken out the magazine racks, we assume that will be the case, which will be one cost saving i will have, no magazines, but we have not been open for three months and financially that has been a nightmare because a lot of the overheads have kept on ticking. this to metre restriction is huge for all businesses —— two metre. we desperately needed to be one metre to have any hope of moving
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forward. what your hairdresser chat like? louise is mentioning the possibility of not being able to talk to clients. do you go beyond where have you been on holiday? holiday conversation is out, isn't it? i don't think hairdressers u nfortu nately it? i don't think hairdressers unfortunately themselves will be going on holiday. listen, a good hairdresser has plenty of banter in their locker, i am sure we will find something else to talk about. how about covid ? something else to talk about. how about covid? that will keep you going for a while. and the most fantastic thing is all these home haircuts, i had done a future tory else online. i think the men have had a wonderful time with this just doing their own hair and it has been a bit of fun. i have found i have obviously had lots of texts from clients asking me to cut their hair, cani clients asking me to cut their hair, can i get them in, but we are going to need longer with all these appointments because people's hair is longer, but i tell you one thing,
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lots of people are saying they quite like their hair long. i have never worn my hair so long and i have quite enjoyed being a bit feral.” appreciate your honesty, thank you, richard! i have never been to a hairdresser with a colour zone. i see a local sam hilljust trims it! let's find out whether people will be able to go on holiday in the uk. hotels and b&bs might be able to reopen, sean? i am at a camping site in shropshire this morning and it could be after this announcement today that the only thing this site might be able to open its self—contained clamping lodges for posh campers, all the shared facilities are not needed. you can look at these aerial photos starting off where we are now, looking out over the whole site, you can see the ca rava n
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over the whole site, you can see the caravan dealership, the caravans that will be in use, the shared facilities of the pool, the toilet blocks, the hot tubs, all of those could come into question if the social distancing rules are changed but shared facilities are still maybe not allowed. we have ros with us this morning, you have been part of these trade bodies which have written letters to the governor, your1 million written letters to the governor, your 1 million members, written letters to the governor, your1 million members, concerned about what might happen. what do you need from the government for your members to be sustainable? we need clarity, and for our campers, people are touring caravans and motorhomes, they need to use shared facilities. we know they are safe, i have been working with government on guidance andl working with government on guidance and i got it to the industry more thana and i got it to the industry more than a fortnight ago, we have done covid security procedures, we are ready, we need the government to give us the green light. i am sure this government will not leave campus behind. but you have written a letter and you have concerns, what
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do you think it's preventing places with shared facilities being on the opening list from july the 4th? with shared facilities being on the opening list from july the 4th7m broke the press worried about shared facilities, but driving up the motorway we used shared facilities because we had to stop on the way. we can do it safely. some touring and camping parks have been open throughout lockdown with key workers using shared facilities. we understand the government is concerned but they cannot leave the most affordable form of policy— making behind as most affordable form of policy—making behind as they up tourism. have you seen other businesses go under canopy on the brink on it been a break in the coming weeks? we have businesses on the brink, we are worried about small ones, they have had no money since lockdown and cost ongoing, we have lost half a season already, we need to get the summer back. joe -- ros, thank you. we will see the guidance later. mark has been
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hosting us, he owns and runs the whole holiday park. a customer quality up today and says what will be the difference here, i know you have glamping lodges but you have pools, playgrounds and hot tubs? a blog we are pretty sure we can get all the accommodation open between our really worried about the facilities, the pool, hot tubs, the wash block, we just facilities, the pool, hot tubs, the wash block, wejust do not facilities, the pool, hot tubs, the wash block, we just do not know. facilities, the pool, hot tubs, the wash block, wejust do not know. in terms of the business almost behind—the—scenes, co—workers, the investment you have put in, what is on the line for you? ultimately jobs, we need to get back open. on the line for you? ultimately jobs, we need to get back openm terms of the facilities available here now, do you think that with one metre social distancing, if that concern today, you could be fully up and running and within guidelines? —— michael that a. and running and within guidelines? -- michael that a. we're and running and within guidelines? -- michaelthat a. we're pretty and running and within guidelines? -- michael that a. we're pretty sure we can do it at one metre, but we are guaranteed fresh air and thieves. the government have a job
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to do, we will work with them to do what we can in the best way we can. how has it been for you? like a roller—coaster. you have staff asking what you will do, they are worried aboutjobs, asking what you will do, they are worried about jobs, it asking what you will do, they are worried aboutjobs, it is really difficult, you can just worried aboutjobs, it is really difficult, you canjust do your best everyday and get on and get through it. good look with the announcement, mark, it feels like we will be wishing lots of people but, they detail is make or break. there is sunshine on the way, but we will have to weight. carroll, it will be glorious politics people? it will be sunny and humid for parts. -- it will be glorious for a lot of people. for the next few days, temperatures and
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humidity are both rising, there will be lots of dry weather and lots of sunshine but not everybody will see. the highest temperatures will be across england and wales, scotland will see briefly some higher temperatures, northern ireland, you are more likely to have temperatures closer to where they should be at this time of year. pollen levels high across england and wales, lower in northern ireland, low to moderate in scotland, uv levels high over the next few days. today we have a weather front which has been with sensible a couple of days, it is still producing cloud and rain across northern ireland and scotland but lots of clear skies as we push further south. although some others are starting off with cloud, that should sing and break and some will push northwards and you will see sunshine coming through. across aberdeen, 17, stornoway 15, sunshine coming through. across aberdeen, 17, stornoway15, here is the rain across argyll and bute, brightening up in the south. cloudy and wet, the rain on and off all day
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across northern ireland but brightening up across northern england. the sun is coming out and we had sunshine across east anglia and seven counties already, we will hang onto it. height of 27 in london. the weather front is still with us overnight, producing cloud and rain, clear skies further south, that does not mean it will be a cool night, look at those overnight temperatures, that will feel quite humid, difficult for sleeping in the next couple of nights. tomorrow we have a weather front but if anything it will start to lose its energy, it will start with a fair bit of cloud and some light rain, that will fizzle through the day and it will brighten up with more sunshine coming through, and sunshine across england, wales, northern ireland and scotland. temperatures could reach 31, possibly 32 in the south—east tomorrow, 22 in aberdeen, 19 in belfast. some showers on thursday, especially because northern ireland and scotland, some will be heavy,
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potentially thundery, lots of dry weather, lots of sunshine, this could see the peak of the temperatures, 31, 32, maybe 33. after that, things change. thank you very much for that. plenty of people asking what's happening with the weather. louise has just p°pped with the weather. louise has just popped outside. going to do an interview on the piazza. louise will be outside shortly. also to let you know, it's just gone 8:30am. be outside shortly. also to let you know, it'sjust gone 8:30am. let be outside shortly. also to let you know, it's just gone 8:30am. let me bring you up—to—date with one or two stories. cinemas, restaurants and pubs could soon be opening their doors again in england as part of the government's easing of the lockdown for the leisure industry. borisjohnson is expected to announce that the two—metre social distancing requirement will be reduced to help the businesses reopen. there are currently no plans for similar changes in scotland and wales, while in northern ireland the distance has already been cut for children in schools.
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let's find out what's happening in sport this morning. another big premier league game last night. sally, it's what happened before that in the sky above the eddy ad stadium which everyone is talking about. that's right, the result com pletely about. that's right, the result completely overshadowed by a plane flying above the adhered stadium, manchester city against burnley, burnley saying they are ashamed and embarrassed. burnley say they're "ashamed and embarrassed" after a banner reading "white lives matter burnley" was flown over the etihad stadium during their game with manchester city last night. the aircraft circled over the stadium just before kick—off, before which players and staff from both sides had taken a knee in support of the black lives matter movement. burnley, who lost the game 5—0, say they'll ban those responsible, and have issued an unreserved apology. i mean, in itself, the words themselves aren't offensive, it's just the context, it's a rejection actually of the conversations we're having at the moment,
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that's what it represents and i guess people have the right to do it. and for all the great things that have been said, to me... it's just proof again that these things can lead to positive things. all that's been said, 12 hours since the game has finished, it is a catalyst for the conversations that we'll have. we're just at such a transformative point now in the year, football, what's going on, this just expands it again and hopefully leads to more conversations. like i said, for everyone out there, these are uncomfortable conversations. and we've got to have them. and there's nothing wrong with doing that. comfortable being uncomfortable.
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saying very clearly there, it's an uncomfortable situation, and we've got to keep having these conversations and short time ago we heard this. we've also been hearing the thoughts of burnley season ticket holderjulian jordan. i was absolutely disgusted, it feels like we've been globally humiliated by far right morons and we got to challenge these ideas. they should not be allowed to be normalised, someone who has a public platform like the burnley captain, conducting himself responsibly, speaking passionately, speaking on behalf of myself and football supporters everywhere. the burnley captain speaking at last night immediately after the game, did not want to talk immediately about the game, but wanting to address the plane, saying he was ashamed and embarrassed by what happened. burnley making it clear that those responsible are no
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longer welcome at the club, and i think we will hear more about this story throughout the day. back to you. we will keep an eye on this, sally, thank you. last month we were warned by the chancellor to prepare for a "severe recession, the likes of which we have not seen". with more than two million people out of work, and national debt skyrocketing, there are more tough economic times to come. so what can be done to boost our chances of recovery? let's speak now to former chancellor, sajid javid, who hasjust published his plan. good to talk to you and thank you for coming on the programme. some of those figures are quite scary. uk debt bigger than the economy the first time since the 19605. gdp down 2596 first time since the 19605. gdp down 25% since the beginning of the lockdown. how, in your mind, do we rescue the situation, do we try and prevent us from going further into debt, while also protecting the lives of thousands and thousands of
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people who have been ruined by what's happened over the last three months? i think the chances are of course was right in warning us that this kind of thing would happen. we all know why the government made the right decision to put public health first and right decision to put public health firstand in right decision to put public health first and in doing so, when you stop consumers from consuming, producers from producing you are going to have a crisis and the chancellor has also been right to provide the support he has done so far. but we all recognise as we slowly start relaxing and that's good to see, it's being done at a steady pace, that will help the economy but we need to do much more and that's what this report is about. it's a report i've worked on with the centre for policy studies, 60 plus ideas on it today about how we can really turbo—charge growth and really focus on the thing and i think what will matter the most is job creation. on the thing and i think what will matter the most isjob creation.” suppose it's hard to generalise everything, there's lots of points in their budget proposed tax cuts,
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corporation tax cuts, my question is about the welfare of all those people who are at risk of losing theirjobs at the moment. listening to this, thinking what about us, how do you resurrect the position we find ourselves in at the moment? that's right and we've already seen for example, the claimant count up by1.6 for example, the claimant count up by 1.6 million for example, the claimant count up by1.6 million and for example, the claimant count up by 1.6 million and all those people who had been furloughed, almost 10 million, sadly, not all of them will get back to the jobs they once had and that supply this kind of action is important. some of the things we talked about, first of all stimulate the economy, tax cuts, temporary tax cut in vat but also very importantly, temporary tax cut in national insurance, employers national insurance, employers national insurance, employers national insurance, payroll tax, making it cheaper to employ people. another thing is a really big focus on infrastructure. that was already there by the government. rightly so. because of the fall in the economy we should not use that as a reason to cut back on investment, in fact, we should increase it and we should
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also focus very much on the delivery of that. as a country, successive governments in the past, we haven't a lwa ys governments in the past, we haven't always been great at infrastructure delivery, that needs a big overhaul and we suggest how that could work. i don't i don't want to run out of time with you. i suppose the overriding question is how you pay for the things that need to be done if there is going to be tax cuts?” address that in the report and we've said, we called the fiscal rules, which is to make sure we do set out a strategy about how we eventually bring the government 's finances back into balance but now is not the right time, with record low interest rates, real interest rates are negative. it's right to use that capacity that the markets have effectively given the government to invest in infrastructure but in terms of day—to—day spending, extra spending on health and social, so many other things, we should not try
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to bring that into balance until we get back to the precrisis gdp levels because i think to do so would push our recovery, put it out already and at the moment, the wrong time. we don't want to see that but having a signal about how you eventually bring finances back under control is going to be important.” bring finances back under control is going to be important. i got to ask it as well we've not seen you in front line politics for a while since you stepped down as chancellor, there is talk about you potentially being a candidate for the london mayoral post, do you see yourself in that role going forward? no! i read that a couple of weeks ago, that was a surprise to me! not least because we have a fantastic candidate already, the only campaign i will be in is his campaign. sajid javid, good to talk to you this morning, loads more detail on the bbc website. thank you for coming in the programme. —— thank you for
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coming onto the programme. many of us have taken up a new exercise regime during lockdown, but one man has been more ambitious than most. brendan rendall has decided to run more than a thousand miles to raise money for chester zoo, and if that wasn't hard enough he's doing it in fancy dress too. louise has gone outside to meet him as he takes on today's run. it's lovely to be outside and there is brendan. raising money to save chester zoo, extraordinary, what he's done, you keep going for a second. let me show people the costu me second. let me show people the costume she had been running in, so far he's done it many miles, this morning is already done i think half marathon? brendan! very good morning to you, first time i am holding one of these booms so bear with me, i don't want to scare you. tell me, how many miles have you done today? i've just how many miles have you done today? i'vejust gone over a how many miles have you done today? i've just gone over a half marathon now, i changed costumes, i do three orfour miles on now, i changed costumes, i do three or four miles on this, getting used
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to it as i go into the marathon next week. this is quite an undertaking, this many miles, so why?” week. this is quite an undertaking, this many miles, so why? i was enjoying lockdown, thinking i want to do another challenge and i saw the appealfor to do another challenge and i saw the appeal for chester zoo and i thought, you know what, that's inspired me so i thought i will run half marathon every day injune, philip marathon in july, half marathon every day injune, philip marathon injuly, i work with children with special educational needs, doing that for 12 years, been to chester zoo many times, they love it. i work at a school and art topics have been animals and i thought let's do it for the kids we all need a laugh and some fun, that's why i wanted to do it. you weren't always a runner?” that's why i wanted to do it. you weren't always a runner? i started running at 27. about ten years, my life was a cycle of self—destructive behaviour, i struggled with weight. it was a bit to do a half marathon, i had never run before, three months in the dark, hoodie, i did my first half marathon in one hour and 24.
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that's very good. and then i fell into it, the marathon, big challenges over the last three years and here i am. let me speak to someone from the sue, i do that in just a moment but first of all, the manager is quite something, in the costu mes manager is quite something, in the costumes what kind of problems are you having? it's really hot, i am struggling with my feet, for of my toes are strapped, they are chafing, iam toes are strapped, they are chafing, i am trying to go out early in the morning to get a big chunk of it done, i do smaller sessions depending on how hard it is, i might do an evening session but the response has been amazing, trans beeping, trucks beeping, incredible feeling. honestly, itake my beeping, trucks beeping, incredible feeling. honestly, i take my hat off to you, the bad news is the weather is going to get really nice! i heard! will you carry on your running now while i speak to my next guest, on you go. let me speak to jamie, chief operating officerfrom chester zoo. you had a massive campaign about the sue, you are able to open now, what a relief that must
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be? we opened just over a week ago. we've raised nearly £3 million from ourjust giving we've raised nearly £3 million from our just giving campaign. we've raised nearly £3 million from ourjust giving campaign. we've got 1200 active fundraisers like brendan out there at the moment doing weird and wonderful things for us but we are not out of the woods. there is a long way to go, we lost £5 million over the first half of the year, we can only open on reduced capacity at the moment so we need people like brendan, such a star, to come and help us every day. we are a charity, 9796 help us every day. we are a charity, 97% of our income comes from people coming through the gates and they are slowly trickling back into now but it will take us a while. what is it like at the zoo at the moment, must be a huge relief to have people back but what is the atmosphere lie? it's great, people loving coming back, to get outside, get fresh air, well—being, to spend some time with theirfamily, kids, well—being, to spend some time with their family, kids, we've well—being, to spend some time with theirfamily, kids, we've got lots of open green space available at the present time, making sure people are socially distancing, it's a safe
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environment for people to be in. visitors and staff are loving it. brendan well on his way to £10,000, also pointing out i look a bit like also pointing out i look a bit like a giraffe today which i think as a compliment, brendan, thank you so much and very good luck to you. i am making my way back to the studio, but lovely to see guests, and be out and about in the lovely sunshine. with a rhinoceros behind you! everybody, thank you so much. it's 8:44am. it's the latest must—see bbc sunday night drama — the luminaries is set in 19th century new zealand and brings intrigue and mystery to the story of the country's gold rush. it's based on an award winning novel and stars himesh patel, who's a long way from where he started out as a resident on albert square. let's see him in action. mr emery staines. miss anna wetherell. was this your first sea voyage? yes.
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mine too. it wasn't at all what i expected. i always imagined once we were out at sea that the horizon would form a circle around the ship but it wasn't that at all. it was a square. yes, it was a square. it had corners. astonishing. we should introduce ourselves. we just did. well, yes. but we hardly know anything about each other. i know you can recognise an albatross. i know you're bound for new zealand. probably to dig for gold. same as me. we can speak to himesh patel now. good morning, great to speak to you! we saw a slice of it there, tell us about the programme and your character. my character, as you just
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saw, meets anna on the boat as they arrive in new zealand. there are paths then split and they try to find their way back to each other through various machinations, they cannot quite do it. it's kind of about that desire for love but also the desire for gold, etc during the gold rush in new zealand. it's about all these different characters who intersect with each other at different points. it's a really compelling story. it's based on a very popular book, the author speaking about how excited she is seeing the character she has written coming to life stop you involved a little bit how that was portrayed. eleanor was there for the whole of the production having adapted her own book, it was great to have the originator of the book there, the whole process, we could discuss how
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our characters relate to each other so it's quite intricate, the way it's plotted. to have the person there, the brains behind it all, was really great. at a time when nobody is able to travel anywhere it must be quite nice to watch this programme, reminding you of a wonderful location, filming in new zealand? absolutely, such an amazing country, so beautiful. as people will see when they watch the show, we got to shoot in some really beautiful locations. quite a while ago now we filmed it, it's quite a nice thing to be reliving it at the moment. everyone watching you this morning has had their lives interrupted over the last few months and years was a particularly strange interruption, is this right? you we re interruption, is this right? you were filming a show about a pandemic and how the world would react to that when the lights were turned off? yes, i'djust started that when the lights were turned off? yes, i'd just started shooting and adaptation of a novel called station 11 which some people may have read during the pandemic! it's
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an airy similar plotline, we just started work on that over in the united states and then i had to come home. fiction became reality for you quite quickly, i imagine? yes. you're also in this christopher nolan film which is coming out next month. i suppose this is the benefit of having had quite a bit of work to do over the last 12 months or so and we are seeing that now on our screens. tell us about that. a new film from chris nolan, it'sjust as epic, if not more epic than all the movies before that he's done. it was a really great thrill to be a part of it, i've been a fan of his movies for such a long time, to get to be pa rt for such a long time, to get to be part of that ride was brilliant. i'm looking forward to seeing it whenever we can. what have you been told about, everyone is asking when will be returned to normal? we are hearing in england about relaxing of measures which will be announced later today and potentially that
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reduction of two metres down to one metre in terms of social distancing. what about your industry, getting back to, i don't know whether you are going to go straight back into filming that show, the pandemic? i'm waiting to hear, personally, for me, i think it'sjust waiting to hear, personally, for me, i think it's just about making sure that it's safe, guarantees, as best we can, safety for the crew, the cast and once we can start to get at all in place hopefully we will start working again but i guess, ultimately, nothing is more important than the safety of everyone. you are in the same boat as the rest of us, thank you so much for talking to us. and louise is back, by the way! the luminaries continues on bbc one on sunday at 9pm and all episodes are available now on the bbc iplayer. are you all right after the rhinoceros? it's really nice to be outside, ijust rhinoceros? it's really nice to be outside, i just realised rhinoceros? it's really nice to be outside, ijust realised i haven't managed to change my shoes yet! very
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good luck to brendan. he was fantastic, wasn't he? very good, good spirit lifter. that's what we all need. she was the nation's sweetheart whose songs inspired the soldiers of the second world war. dame vera lynn died last week at the age of 103 — but her music and her charity work ensure that her legacy lives on. now there are calls for her to be remembered another way — with a statue on the white cliffs of dover. breakfast‘s john maguire reports. # there'll be bluebirds over the white cliffs of dover... the bluebird's—eye—view reminds us of why the white cliffs meant so much to those heading off or coming home from war. a song that spoke to millions that dame vera continued to sing throughout her long career. # and peace ever after, tomorrow. adrian brown remembers playing in her backing band in the 19805 but his family's connections with
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the singer go back even further. my uncle len was a singer in the east end in the 20s and 30s, and he used to take vera around with him because she was too young to actually perform in clubs and pubs. i obviously grew up hearing about this vera lynn, and then eventually in the 80s i got a call to do some shows. and it was greatjust to meet her and have a good chat and everything. he believes dover would be the perfect place for a statue in her memory. but why stop at bronze? for everything vera lynn's done for this country, there should be something on these cliffs called vera lynn's cliffs. a section of it for a wonderful woman, for people like her — the country is united. i actually think that would be an excellent idea, especially for dover. and i think this is the ideal place to put her.
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this letter of mine is getting to be sort of a rendezvous where husbands and wives torn apart by war can be brought together by music. it was her decision to entertain the troops fighting in the burma campaign that secured her place in their affections. george batts was there. and i remember so much, sitting in the jungle, winding the thing up and listening, and we would all be sitting around, just listening. and i'm not ashamed to say, a few tears going down. and it really did bring you back home. there's a lot of controversy about memorials now. but hers is one that is deserved, can never be argued against, and would be there for the right purpose. a former head of the british army believes a statue would be a fitting tribute. well, there's a variety of ways to commemorate people but a statue, i think, is a very good way of reminding people who someone was,
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what they did, and i think an appropriate statue in an appropriate place, in this case no—one is going to agree that vera lynn should not have a statue made of her and putting it on or near the white cliffs of dover, how appropriate is that? fantastically appropriate. it has my vote. there are several online petitions calling for a statue. 0pinions may differ on where it should be placed. what dame vera lynn and her music meant to so many people, the hope she provided, is beyond any doubt. john maguire, bbc news, dover. we can speak now to dame vera lynn's daughter, virginia lewis—jones. shejoins us by phone from her home in east susex. good morning to you and thank you so much forjoining us this morning. what do you make of these plans to have a statue? hello, good morning everyone. it's amazing, really, absolutely superb. she really deserves it. she did, as you said, so much and has continued to do so much for people, children, the
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charities. i think it's an amazing idea, absolutely fantastic! but as i said, you know, it's up to people to decide whether they want one and it seems to be, to me, it's been and it's dawning on me that people do. many people are backing this campaign, do you have an idea which way we should be looking, have you got that deep into it? no, not really. a friend of mine asked me yesterday and i said, obviously, the white cliffs of dover would be an extremely good place but again, it's not for me to decide. it's amazing that people think she should have won. i mean, i do, that people think she should have won. i mean, ido, but that people think she should have won. i mean, i do, but that's on a personal level of course! and she certainly deserves it but where is not for me to decide. but one of the
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places it would be extremely appropriate are the white cliffs of dover but maybe somebody has some other thoughts. what would she have made of it? oh, she would have been hysterical, she would have said, good heavens above, really? who's going to do it, what is it going to look like, basically, that is what she would have said! it's amazing, the appeal across the generations. i was talking to my children who were singing we'll meet again a few months ago for the celebrations and i remember my grandparents talking about what dame vera meant to them many years ago. that span across so many years ago. that span across so many edges is quite incredible, isn't it? it is, mummy and i used to go to school, they would hold concerts and we would have tea and it was brilliant. and the sentiment then, as we have always said, it's just as important now as it was then, particularly under present circumstances. and i think people
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appreciate that. what do you think your mum 's legacy will be over all of this? so many people with so many fond memories of listening to her, speaking to her over the years.” think it will be a conglomeration of things, not only for what she did during the war but a lot of the things that she did after the war, for charity. as you know, she's associated with our lovely children's charity and also military charities. both of which are extremely, and are extremely important to her and i think that legacy should live on and i'm sure it will do. the other thing, so many tributes were paid to her over the last few days. what's it been like for you as a family reading all of those and being given things? well, i can't keep up, basically! i turned my mobile off at one point because i
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was beginning to get a bit, god, i cannot cope with all of this but it's been absolutely amazing and i'm so thrilled stop we will be sending out a statement, a thank you statement, anybody who is listening, thank you so much for all your kind words, messages, flowers, presence, a little girl made us a lovely knitted wreath which is in our porch, little knitted flowers on it, absolutely beautiful, really beautiful. little posies left at the gate, great big bouquets of flowers from lovely people. really, really amazing, we are overwhelmed, really, it's fantastic. you told us you weren't entirely sure about where the statue should go, should it be arms open in song, as many people would remember her, do you think? gosh, i haven't even got that far yet! i don't know. i suppose so, i suppose it depends, forgive me, on the expertise of the sculptor and what he is capable, he or she is
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capable of. probably, i mean, iam thinking of the morecambe and wise memorial up in morecambe, that is great fun, it has to be something associated with her, in whatever way. maybe with a little child or something atrophied, i don't know. because as you know, we look after the dame vera lynn children's charity. —— a little child or something at her feet. giving them a start in life. maybe something like that. i really haven't had time to digest it and think about it! listen, it's so wonderful to speak to you, so muchjoy in your voice. virginia, thank you so much for talking to us. thank you so much, thank you. pleasure to have you on the programme. thanks for watching this morning. we will be back
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tomorrow from 6am. have a lovely day. goodbye!
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good morning, welcome to bbc news. i'm victoria derbyshire with you this tuesday morning. here are the headlines. borisjohnson is expected to announce that cinemas, museums, galleries and hairdressers will be able to reopen in england from 4th july. a relaxation of the two metre social distancing rule in england could also allow bars, restau ra nts a nd hotels to leave lockdown. we are going to be giving some guidelines, so if we do make these decisions later on today, guidelines will come through for businesses to know how they can work, how they can function and what is expected of them. in the next hour we'll talk to businesses preparing to open onjuly 4th in england. and let me know how you feel about the prospect of further freedoms. 0n twitter, i'm @vicderbyshire, and the email address is victoria@bbc.co.uk

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