tv Outside Source BBC News June 23, 2020 8:00pm-8:30pm BST
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hello, i'm ros atkins. welcome to outside source. hallelujah! some people are clearly very happy — the government's announced a timeline for pubs and restaurants reopening. but despite this and other relaxations, the chief scientific officer has urged caution. the disease is growing across the world, it's coming down in the uk, but it hasn't gone away. in the us, the funeral of rayshard brooks, who was shot
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dead as he fled police officers in atlanta, has just finished. what do you do to stay alive — comply like george floyd or run like rayshard brooks? i'm not asking for a friend, i'm asking for myself. also in the us, a top health official has contradicted president trump's claims on testing. let's begin with what is undoubtedly a big moment for those of you watching in england. a significant shift to the covid—19 restrictions. this was the prime minister earlier. mr speaker, i can tell the house that we will also reopen restaurants and pubs. hallelujah! the reopening of pubs and restaurants in england from 4july is part of a broader range of changes. on those, here'sjonathan blake. cinemas, hair salons and pubs will be able to reopen in england on 4july, providing safety measures are in place. and the current two metre social distancing requirement is being reduced to one metre,
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allowing venues to open. there are currently no plans for similar changes in scotland and wales, while in northern ireland, the distance has already been cut for schoolchildren. of course, the question here is whether the easing of restrictions risks a rise in the infection rate. here's the bbc‘s health correspondent, dominic hughes. for weeks now, we've been urged to maintain a distance of two metres. at the height of the pandemic, with the coronavirus circulating widely, it was argued that keeping two metres away from others reduced the risk of infection. so what happened to alter that advice? the science actually hasn't changed. what's changed is the absolute numbers of cases in the community. so two metres is still going to be safer than one metre but if there is no virus in your community, then the risk is zero.
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if there is no virus, you can't catch it. it's not that the science has changed, it's just that the balance of risk has changed. staying safe from the virus involves several different factors, most obviously distance. being one metre apart can be up to ten times riskier than being two metres apart, but timing is also important. spending more than 15 minutes close together will increase the chances of infection, as does being face—to—face, which can be as risky two metres apart as it is being back—to—back with someone at one metre. but the government — in england, at least — believes some of this risk can be mitigated, reduced by measures such as screens at tills or table service and pubs. but there are those who believe this is all happening far too soon. it sounds all right if you're out of doors and you do keep that one metre distance apart. but if you're indoors, you're at a much greater risk because you're sitting in proximity to other people, you're not wearing masks if you're in restaurants and pubs. and the level of viral infection
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in the air could well be quite high. let's bring in the bbc‘s political correspondent rob watson, live with us correspondent rob watson, live with us from oxford. good have you on outside source. bring me through the political ramifications the government is going through here.“ there was a government minister sitting here, if mrjohnson was sitting here, if mrjohnson was sitting here, if mrjohnson was sitting here, they would say, what we're doing is responding to the fa ct we're doing is responding to the fact the level of the virus in uk society, particularly in england, is low enough to take these measures, but have there been political pressures 7 but have there been political pressures? of course there have. there are no doubts that many conservative politicians from the governing conservative party really keen to have the economy opening up. on the specifics of the distancing, getting that down from two metres to one metre, i don't think there's been any doubt there's been a lot of lobbying from businesses,
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particularly in the hospitality industry, saying, look, it's lovely to be open again but we cannot do it staying apart two metres. it's about the various coming down but, you bet you, political pressure too. rob, don't go anywhere. the number of being dying from coronavirus is falling in the uk, but overall the total is one of the highest in the world. in the last 2a hours, 171 people died from covid—19 in the uk. the government also announced another 109 deaths that occured in april, may and june. that takes the total number of deaths across the uk to 10,927. well, today was the last of the daily press briefings from the uk government. that means a lot of things. we'll see a lot less of the chief medical adviser, chris whitty, as a result. here's some of his message today. we are going to be living with this virus for a very long time. if we have to wait until natural immunity finally gets on top of this, we are talking
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about a very long period. obviously, we all hope the vaccine will come earlier. so, what may change over time, it'll include the epidemiology — and what goes down can go up. winter, for example, may change that. it might mean that we actually have to increase some of the measures. equally, it may be that the epidemiology gets better over time and continues the current downward trend and we could go downwards. if we can bring you back in, rob, i wa nted if we can bring you back in, rob, i wanted to ask about the daily briefings. they've been criticised by some further format but they have an opportunity for journalists to ask questions of ministers, sometimes the prime minister, and the scientists. how will that level of scrutiny continue with the briefings gone? i mean, to be a bit frivolous for a second, i suspect certain media organisations and politicians will be rather relieved they don't have this daily fixture at 5pm uk time. i'm pretty sure scrutiny will go on in one form or another after all politicians —— and
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one from another. after all, politicians cannot hide from journalists. i don't know if it's good to be as easy to question the scientists. i know the scientists themselves find this kind of format, where they get fired at by people like you and me, not their normal side of things. we wait and see. on frivolous point, you plate a little bit of chris whitty there, one of the interesting things i think people like him are worried about, abandoning things like the daily briefing will sort of low people in the uk into a sort of false sense of security — pubs and restaurants are open, all sorts of things are opening, there isn't that daily news briefing any more, maybe we don't have to wash our hands so much. i think that is the concerns of the scientific community, if they will be rather relieved not to have to face the likes of you and me. don't go anywhere, again, rob.
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while lots of things are changing, one thing that isn't — the majority of children in england will not being going to school until september at the earliest. pippa crerarfrom the mirror puts it this way. she says it's. .. meanwhile, scotland's announced that pupils will be able to return to schools in august if the virus continues to be suppressed. here's scotland's education secretary, john swinney. there are now only 2,000 infectious people in scotland — a reduction of around 90% since may. there has been a sustained downward trend in covid—19 deaths. intensive care cases now stand at a fraction of what they were. if we stay on this trajectory, which cannot be taken for granted, by august, the position will be even better. that is good news. that means we are now able to update our planning assumptions. if we stay on track, if we all continue to do what is right and if we can further
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suppress this terrible virus, the government believes children will be able to return to school full—time in august. one last question for you about the uk government. it's been facing two huge disruptions — one of its choosing, brexit, another not of his choosing, brexit, another not of his choosing, covid—i9. how do those two disruptors affect its ability to get things done in the next six months oi’ things done in the next six months orso? things done in the next six months or so? if you had to pick a government in the european union, in europe, that was facing summary chop challenges —— pretty tough challenges, it would be the uk. the economy we have, we brits, we like to go out and eat, drink, shop, have a good time, so the cover 19 challenge as billy harmed the essence, if you like, of the uk
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economy “— essence, if you like, of the uk economy —— covid—i9 challenge has really harmed. although we left the eu in january, really harmed. although we left the eu injanuary, we are still in a transition, we are still in the customs union. it's got a huge amount on its plate. something as it is facing, the approval rating some dropped for the government since it's out of the crisis. i think it was a 52% and is now down to 32% stop the government is going to be hoping that one thing definitely happens, that is that business bounces back, and a second thing doesn't happen. that's the rate of infections and covid going up again. rob, thanks very much indeed. there is more on the website. going to the us now.
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the funeral of rayshard brooks is just wrapping up in atlanta, georgia. in a car park earlier this month — he was black, the now former officer who shot him is white and is now being charged with murder. we can show you live pictures now coming in as the service reaches its conclusion. this shooting generated more coverage than it normally would because it happened not long after george floyd was killed in custody in minneapolis — which, as i know you know, led to wave of anti—racism protests. and in fact, and infact, in and in fact, in many other countries too. this had been a private funeral. as i mentioned, he... the eulogy was read by the reverend raphael warnock. here's some of what he said. george floyd complied, rayshard brooks ran — yes, that's true.
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but they're both dead. and there is the problem. black parents do not really know what to tell their children in order to keep them alive — and that's a problem! that's notjust a black problem, although it's happening to black people. that's an american problem! nada tawfik has been watching the funeral from new york. tell us more about who we heard from and what they said during the service. we heard a lot there from reverent warnock in the eulogy, basically that the country is become too accustomed to black people dying. he says rayshard brooks is the latest high—profile casualty in the latest high—profile casualty in the battle, for the justice, the latest high—profile casualty in the battle, for thejustice, soul in america, and he really urge people to go out and vote on november three. he said is notjust enough to march in the streets, you have to march in the streets, you have to march to the voting booth, but this
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was a very symbolic location, the ebenezer baptist church. this is where the civil rights leader martin luther king junior preached until he was assassinated. he was a copastor there. his daughter, his youngest dr bernice king, also spoke, urging people to protest, keep protesting, do it until all black lives matter in the country. she reached out to the children, rayshard brooks's children. she said she remembered being five years old and the attention nationally on the death of her father, speaking about how this isa her father, speaking about how this is a moment for the nation to really finally try to heal, to use this momentum to address a long—standing problem of racial tensions in this country. she said, this great tragedy in the nation must sees, that humanity as democracy are on
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trial, justice and equity have eluded an entire race of people, so a very strong ceremony here, filled with a video tribute to rayshard brooks, family members speaking on his behalf, speaking about him as a person, how he would walk around in cowboy boots, how he would pretend that he was a good dancer. a lot of emotional attributes for him and his family, but a larger message here about the need to combat police brutality and racial tensions in this country. nada, thank you very much indeed for bringing us up to date. that's after two in new york. —— that's nadain nada in new york. inafew in a few minutes, we will go back to the united states. a top health official has contradicted president trump's claims on testing. back to the uk now. in northern ireland, more changes have come
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into force today as well. here's emma va rdy. there's been a significant change for people's social lives here in northern ireland, as now up to six people from different households can meet up indoors — northern ireland being the first part of the uk to permit this. but you might need a rather large living room, though, because the two metre social distancing rule will still apply. the stormont executive has also strongly advised people to wear masks if they are meeting up indoors. and in these circumstances, there's still no overnight stays permitted, and still a very cautious approach advice for people who are shielding. this latest change of six people meeting indoors doesn't apply to people shielding, but there is a planned pause in shielding further down the line, expected on july 31. and as to whether the two metres social distancing rule will reduce to one metre, as england has done, northern ireland still yet to decide this.
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this is outside source live from the bbc newsroom. our lead story... there'll be a significant relaxation of the coronavirus lockdown in england from next month — pubs, hotels, hairdressers and cinemas can all reopen. now let's talk about dr anthony fauci — you'll know him, the trump administration's top coronavirus adviser. well, he's directly contradicted president trump on the issue of testing. he's also said some parts of the country are seeing a "disturbing surge" in infections. let me take you through the figures first. covid—i9 has killed 120,000 people and there are more than 2.3 million cases. in more half the states, the number of new cases is still rising. the rate of infection has been rising sharply in the south and west, particularly in states which loosened their restrictions on business early on. texas, for example, recorded its biggest number of new cases on saturday. and the number of people in hospital with the virus has risen
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for 11 consecutive days. california's infection rate has been surging in the last week — the number of people in hospital has surpassed the peak in april. florida is also seeing cases rising sharply — it's now the seventh state to reach 100,000 cases. bear all that in mind as we turn to this issue of testing. first of all, here's dr fauci. a couple of days ago, there were 30,000 new infections. that's very troublesome for me. the way you address that — and i've said this over and over again — is you have to have the manpower, the system, the testing to identify, isolate, and contact trace in an effective way so that when you see those increases, you can understand where they're coming from and you can do something about them. there's dr fauci, advocating contact tracing, track and trace, as it's
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called. compare that with this. here's the president tweeting... of course, the main driver of america's numbers is not the testing — it's that lots of people have the virus. and that tweet followed this on saturday. when you do testing to that extent, you're going to find more people, you're going to find more cases! so i said to my people, "slow the testing down, please!" now, that raised a few million eyebrows. the president's press secretary said that was a joke in that speech, but then the president said this today. i don't kid. let me just tell you, let me make it clear. we have got the greatest testing programme anywhere in the world. testing is a double—edged sword. in one way, it tells you you have cases. in another way, you find out where the cases are — and you do a good job. we are doing a greatjob. we have never been credited for it. all of which led to dr fauci being asked about the idea of slowing up testing.
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i know for sure that, to my knowledge, none of us have ever been told to slow down on testing. thatjust is a fact. in fact, we will be doing more testing. finally, the president has since tweeted. .. he went on to describe dr anthony fauci as "with us in all ways". they have history, though. president trump called advice offered in may "unacceptable". injune, when dr fauci said that resuming american football games may be impossible, the president tweeted... let's bring in barbara plett usher live for us in washington, dc. easy to get confused when waiting for all of this, but none of this send a consistent message from the united
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states on how they deal with this virus. note, and that's the point dr fauciand virus. note, and that's the point dr fauci and various officials made in the hearing as well. the level of coronavirus infections is different in different parts, and so you have on the one hand some bright spots like new york, where the number of cases has gone down, but then you have those other areas that dr fauci said were troubling, disturbing, with surges. he mentioned texas and florida and arizona, but there are also other states. the rotavirus cases are increasing about half of america states right now and that is, for various reasons, one of them is, for various reasons, one of them is the way those states have reopened is also sort of uneven. there have been guidelines from the centre for disease control about how the state should reopen, but they're not mandatory, indifferent governors taken different approaches. in some cases, they have opened before they met those guidelines and now it seems we are seeing met those guidelines and now it seems we are seeing the results of that. dr fauci said on the reason
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for the increase in coronavirus cases was not necessarily because of the after testing but because of community transmission —— one of the reasons for the increase. he said the next couple of weeks will be critical to determining that kind of surge. a mixed bag, dr fauci coated i don't mean to be flippant, but on what amount do present from's words amount do present from's words amount toa amount do present from's words amount to a mixed bag? —— president trump's words. i think what the president does is the most important thing, and the bottom line is that he is not model the guidelines that the centre for disease control has put out. he is not wearing a mask, he's consistently refusing to wear a mask so far, and also he has definitely pivoted from the pandemic to the reelection, so he plays down the threat of the pandemic and he
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plays up what he says is a success of the reopening, and those people who want to hear that message feel empowered to act on it and those people who don't want to follow the guidelines that strictly or who feel, in their own experience, that they don't feel it's not much of a threat to not feel pressured to take action. i think his actions speak the loudest. thank you very much indeed, barbara. just as i saw that coming in, novak djokovic says he's extremely sorry. here is that story. novak djokovic has tested positive for covid—19. the world's number one tennis player, he's apologising for playing at a tournament he organised in serbia and croatia — to help players get back to match
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fitness after several weeks without competition because of the pandemic. the tournament was scrapped yesterday after three other players tested positive. you'll have seen these images from the event. no social distancing among the players and the stands were also packed with spectators. these pictures also emerged on social media of djokovic partying with other tennis players
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