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hello i'm ros atkins, welcome to outside source. let's start with a major u—turn by the uk government on huawei. by the time of the next election, we will have implemented in law, and irreversible path for the complete removal of a—way equipment from our 56 network. —— huawei equipment. us judges have scheduled the trial ofjeffrey epstein‘s former girlfriend ghislaine maxwell forjuly next year. she's charged with sex trafficking. more than 125 million people are going back into lockdown in india. and new figures show that the uk economy's growth was even lower than expected —
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and there's a warning it may take until 2024 to recover. welcome. the uk government has reversed its position on huawei — the chinese firm is now barred from any part of the uk's new 56 network, earlier in the year, the uk had said huawei would be barred from elements of the network deemed sensitive for security reasons — but it had been cleared to contribute to 35% of it. the risk was described as "manageable" not any more. today's announcement says all huawei equipment must be gone from the network by 2027. for its part, huawei says says it's a "disappointing decision" and "bad certainly bad news for huawei. the statement goes on to say this.. well the news was announced earlier by the uk culture minister oliver dowden.
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the facts have changed, so has our approach. that's why we've taken this decision that there can be no new huawei equipment from the end of this year and set out a clear timetable to exclude huawei com pletely timetable to exclude huawei completely by 2027 within your reversible path implemented by the time of the next election. here's the analysis of tom newton dunn from times radio. "the biggest takeaway of today's decision? hard to get away from the cold fact that britain has become a victim of a colossal us/china fight. we'll now get 56 two years later, at a cost of £2 billion more." he points out there could also be delays to full fibre broadband. and to tom's point, this decision will go down well in washington — it's been urging the uk to take this decision. the trump administration claims that huawei provides a gateway for china to spy on and potentially attack countries that use its equipment. and the us has imposed sanctions designed to disrupt huawei's ability to get its own chips manufactured. that in turn has led to uk security officials concluding they can no longer assure the security of huawei's products if the company
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is sourcing chips from third—parties for use in its equipment. here's oliver dowden again on that. the new us measures restrict huawei ability to import us products using us technology or software. given the uncertainty that this creates around huawei supply chain, the uk can no longer be confident it will be able to guarantee the security of future huawei 5g equipment affected by the change in us foreign direct product rules. to help us understand all of this, here's karishma vaswani — our asia business correspondent in singapore. it's precisely because of the access to technology from the united states that huawei, because of the sanctions that washington has imposed, would not be able to use, and that's what's concerning countries like the uk going forward. it's not just simply about the national security threat. although, you know, the pressure from washington has been a big
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reason why countries like the uk have been re—looking at huawei in its 56 network. it's also the tech access behind it. so this is a commercial decision, but with very real political undertones. politics is a big part of this story. here's the reaction from the us ambassador to the uk: "britain's to explain why the us is so worried about huawei, let's hear from jamieson greer — who is the former chief of staff to the united states global trade representative. what policymakers understand, at least from the public record that's available, and i think they're all very comfortable with what's on the public record is a long—standing, really relationship between huawei and chinese security services and the chinese government. you can look at this if you review just the personnel who lead huawei, their senior leadership,
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you can also look at the idea that huawei has been subsidized by the chinese government, they receive tax breaks and incentives, and all kinds of things that tie them closely to the chinese government's industrial policy. so, i think policymakers around the world, notjust in the united states, but obviously there in the uk and in other countries, i don't think they seriously consider that huawei somehow has independence from the chinese government or even the security apparatus. i think everybody is aware at this point that there are laws on the books in china that require companies to comply with requests for assistance from intelligence agencies there in china. so these are real concerns that policymakers have. again, remember, they may have nonpublic information as well that they are not in a position to share. this is a political issue in the uk too. certainly the security crackdown in hong kong plus china's treatment of the ethnic uighurs have led to a revolt of conservative
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backbenchers in the house of commons. this is tobias ellwood, who's one of them. we have wanted china to mature into this responsible global stakeholder but it's become a superpower without the responsibilities that a superpower should be showing. we are going through an enduring international emergency but there is no international leadership. and what we are seeing with china, it is discreetly pressing, it is taking advantage of our rickety world order to pursue its own agenda. let's bring in rob watson, oxford. would you categorise this as a victory for backbenchers? yes, it is. it's undoubtedly a victory for backbenchers. in many ways, one of the aspects as a fairly humiliating u—turn for the british government is that they hadn't really seen it coming. in terms of domestic british
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politics, of party management, yes, mrjohnson and his government have a very large majority of 80, but critics of the government will say they should have seen this, they should have seen the unhappiness on their backbenchers. is this really about backbench unhappiness about china's behaviour? are more about mr johnson's inability to fend off pressure from washington?” johnson's inability to fend off pressure from washington? i think it's undoubtedly a bit of both as you are quoting earlier, i think he's absolutely spot on, the first pa rt he's absolutely spot on, the first part of the problem the uk faced was that it was in the crossfire, if you like, ofa that it was in the crossfire, if you like, of a battle between two much bigger powers, the united states and china. there is no doubt that the second to it all, why the government had to u—turn was because of domestic political pressure inside its own governing conservative party, which had been building for some months, where it's pretty clear that the mood in the uk is certainly
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in some parts of the conservative party as soured against china over these last few months. rob, in terms of the practicalities, are we clear the uk's able to remove all of huawei's equipment from the multitude of areas where it's currently present or planned to be present in the coming years? well, certainly those conservative mps who are not very happy about huawei having any role are somewhat sceptical, and they are wanting to see that. of course, the mame telecoms company in this country said it won't be easy. i think it's really interesting, and anyways, the problem uk faces as both a practical one which is what do you do about upgrading its telecoms, how much delay is there going to be? , checks oi’ delay is there going to be? , checks or cost will there be? but there is also, if you like, diplomatic geopolitical challenge that's come up geopolitical challenge that's come upfor geopolitical challenge that's come up for the geopolitical challenge that's come upforthe uk geopolitical challenge that's come up for the uk government that may be even bigger. that's perhaps the
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first instance of some of the perils it faces in a post brexit world because it's now clear that the uk is going to have more difficult trading conditions with the european union. the vote leave campaign, many of them are now in place in downing street, talking about these opportunities of doing trade with other bits of the world, big markets like china. the whole huawei episode shows that that's always going to be straightforward and that you might find yourself caught between other big powers, the united states, china and perhaps at some point, the european union itself. 0k, rob, vicki very much indeed. let's shift from robin oxford to zhaoyin feng, bbc chinese in washington. from huawei's point if you commit may have been able to predict this decision, but is there anything it's can do to counter these american concerns about it as a company?” doubt there is anything else the company could have done. this is
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devastating for huawei, and certainly in the us, and my observations when they started to initially cast out on huawei, the company didn't think it was a big deal. it's us market share was relatively small. later, the us sanctions and export bands really harmed the company's supply chains and washington actively lobbying its airlines, and this campaign was really hurtful for the companies image and business around the globe. it'sjust the latest major crack image and business around the globe. it's just the latest major crack for huawei. china will now be deciding how to respond. what are the options available to beijing? well, no doubt that this move will not go down well in beijing. beijing has denied any direct ties with huawei, but at the same time, actively advocating for the company. earlier today, the chinese and bassett are has hinted
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that the uk's ban on huawei will lead to questions about whether the uk can provide open, fair and non—discriminatory business environment for companies from other countries, so beijing might consider direct chinese investment in the uk to other countries, at the same time, it even imposed restrictions or sanctions on uk businesses operating in china in order to discourage other countries to follow uk's discourage other countries to follow uk's lead. however, this move will i’ui'i uk's lead. however, this move will run the risk of beijing being seen as bullying in the world. so there is some trade—off on the beijing side, and based on the recent track records of beijing, china might likely go for the first option, to stand very strongly with huawei. thank you very much as ever from washington. and if you're listening to all of this wondering what it
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all means for you and the phone you use — let's go through a couple of the main questions: will this mean huawei phones stop working? no. this move affects the equipment at radio masts and inside telephone exchanges rather than consumer devices sold by the firm. possibly. vodafone, three and ee had all begun rolling out 5g services which are reliant on huawei's kit — they now face having to replace it with equipment from another vendor. that means 5g will remain patchy for longer than it would have done and some parts of the country will have to wait longer to get any access to 5g. ghislaine maxwell, the former girlfriend of the late american financier and convicted paedophile, jeffrey epstein, has pleaded not guilty to charges that she helped him to abuse underage girls. right now, a judge in new york is deciding whether to grant her bail. she's currently in prision awaiting her trial which will be almost exactly a year from now on i2thjuly 202i.
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our correspondent laura trevelyan is in new york. laura, just bring us up to date please on what's been happening today. so, this was the bail hearing for miss maxwell, and there is a lot of reporting for people inside the report remind twitter that the judge has denied her application for bail. the prosecution essentially argued that she was a flight risk because of her wealth, because of her multiple passports, she has french, british, american passports, and also because of the way she behaved when prosecutors and investigators arrested her onjuly when prosecutors and investigators arrested her on july the when prosecutors and investigators arrested her onjuly the 2nd in new hampshire, that she seemed to try to get away from them, that her mobile phone was wrapped in tinfoil and attempt to evade law enforcement, said prosecutors can and she gave a false alias when she bought that house, but the real estate agent recognised her from the house, but the real estate agent recognised herfrom the newspaper. so for all these reasons, prosecutors said she shouldn't get
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bail, also very emotional, some of her alleged victims gave evidence in court, one via via the net via video link the other‘s written statements, saying that she was the person who made every thing possible for jeffrey epstein, that she recruited and groomed them as victims that she was a predator who showed no remorse and therefore shouldn't be allowed out on bail. so, pretty powerful arguments are there in courts. did we hear from either arguments are there in courts. did we hearfrom either her or her representatives? she appeared in court looking tired. she appeared in court looking tired. she entered a plea of not guilty, but we heard more from her lawyers who said, essentially, she should be allowed bail because she's not jeffrey epstein. the whole argument of her lawyers is that because epstein killed himself injail almost a year ago, that there is unfair scrutiny and that it's something akin to a witchhunt that's going on with her because of his victims not getting their day in court. so her lawyers said that she would pose $5 million of bail
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underwritten by various properties, owned by friends that she would consent to live here in the southern district of new york, that she would submit to electronic tagging, that she shouldn't be in jail because of all the restrictions related to covid—i9 and her age, she's 58, how can she prepare her defence, all about, but it doesn't seem as though thejudge was very about, but it doesn't seem as though the judge was very impressed. laura in new york. thank you very much indeed. if you'd like more information on her, but outside service team has been used to video looking at her and how she fits into the jeffrey epstein story. you can find that on the bbc news website, and on the bbc news youtube channel. the uk economy showed signs of a modest recovery connected to the easing of the lockdown — but it was smaller than economists expected. the economy grew by 1.8% percent from april. dharshini david reports. flourishing, but not quite back in full bloom. like other garden centres, this one reopened in may, but it's yet to make up the money
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lost during lockdown. normally, we would have a start—up in march, steady progress in march, a big april and a big may. that didn't happen in april, it was really difficult. may has been phenomenal, the second half of it, and june has also been quite phenomenal. not just here, but for the whole garden industry. we've made up quite a bit, of course, thankfully, but we are still behind for the year. all of this is about sowing the seeds of a recovery. in the weeks after lockdown, the economy lost about a quarter of its output, wiping out 18 years of gains. as other sectors also reopened, manufacturing and construction, only a tiny bit of that was recovered in may, disappointing hopes of a full and rapid bounce back. it is not enough to open the doors again. customers have to have the confidence and the money to return. and then there's businesses who have
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yet to reopen, like this maker of exhibition stands. their takings have dwindled from £4 million last year to almost nothing since march. they're desperate to know when the conferences they serve can restart. we're looking towards a very bleak autumn if we don't hear very soon, and, sadly, we've already made people redundant, and if we have no information from the government and no help from the government in the very near future, we will have to look at making more people redundant, which is not what we want to do. how are you? i'm 0k, mate, you? very nice to see you. to rally us out through this crisis, the chancellor's doling out almost £200 billion, but some businesses have already failed, and his officialforecasters still think unemployment could hit 4 million. more help might be needed. inevitably, some people coming off furloughing are going to go into unemployment rather than returning to their previousjobs.
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what do you do to ensure that people's spells in unemployment are no longer than they need to be necessarily? because the longer they're out, the more likely they are to be detached from the labour market, to lose skills, and that's bad for the individuals concerned and also bad for the economy. more reopenings injune will have given the economy a boost, but history tells us it takes years, not months, to fully recoup what is lost in a crisis. there is no quick fix. to prevent the recovery wilting, it may require more tlc. dharshini david, bbc news. stay with us on outside source, still to come: the queen's role in a key moment in australia's history — revealed for the first aus a usjudge in manhattan has denied her bail, she will remain in custody pending trial, and that trial date has been set for the 12th ofjuly 2021. thejudge has ruled that she isa 2021. thejudge has ruled that she is a flight risk and no bail conditions would guarantee her appearance in court for trial. she
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cited the seriousness of the charges against her, the strength of the prosecution's case and maxwell's foreign ties and financial resources and making her ruling. we heard from laura that her lawyers try to argue that she would stay in new york and meet all the criteria that any bail may bring, but the judges meet all the criteria that any bail may bring, but thejudges ruled meet all the criteria that any bail may bring, but the judges ruled that out saying she's a flight risk and will remain in custody all the way through to that trial date of the 12th ofjuly through to that trial date of the 12th of july 2021. through to that trial date of the 12th ofjuly 2021. in a few minutes on outside source, we are going to go back to the 70s and look at the queens role in a key moment in australia's history — revealed for the first time in the release of secret letters. wearing face coverings in shops in england will be compulsory from the end of next week. police have warned about the challenges of enforcing the new rule when it comes in onjuly 24th. john apter, is chair of the police federation in england and wales. if a shopkeeper calls the police
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because someone is failing to wear a face covering or at the same time the police resources are dealing with assaults in progress or domestic violence or whatever, there is simply not enough police officers to go around. we will always do our best. but to rely solely on policing, which i've heard some others say that they should, is unreasonable, and it is unworkable. so, we all have to work together on this. this is a public health crisis. this is about looking after your fellow citizen, but keeping them safe and secure. it's not always just about relying on the police. we are policing a pandemic we would never have expected to police in the way we are being expected to police. this is outside source live from the bbc newsroom. the british government has decided it will stop using equipment
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from the chinese tech giant, huawei, in its 5g telecoms networks. latest on the pandemic. india has the third highest number of confirmed cases in the world with more than 900,000. you can see the increase over the last four weeks. the northern state of bihar has with a population of 125 million people — it's going into a 15—day lockdown. and the city of bengalooroo — also known as bangalore — is also going back into lockdown. here's imran qureshi from bbc hindi. it's clear now, this lockdown is going to be a little more stringent than what was implemented some time ago. there was a national lockdown. this includes commodities, shops. grocery stores will be open between 5am and 12 noon, unlike last time when they were open until about 5pm. california has reimposed restrictions on businesses and public spaces because of a 20% rise in confirmed cases in the last two weeks.
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it's overall total is passed 330,000. in the worst—affected counties, churches, gyms and hairdressers will also close. bear in mind strict lockdown was eased in may and further again injune — so this is a reverse. here's cbs reporter tina patel. a lot of frustration that we felt like we were under so many restrictions for so long and we thought that we had finally started to gain a new sense of normalcy. so there is a lot of frustration taking a step backwards, especially for business owners who were just trying to make things better. i think there's also not a lot of surprise. i think that when you are going out in the community, you saw a lot of people that were may be acting a little bit lax, not wearing masks, not doing as much social distancing. so there are some people that say they kind of saw this coming, and are hoping that maybe this is the wake—up call that everybody needs to take it seriously, so this is the last time we have to deal with these
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kinds of restrictions. florida though is the centre of america's outbreak. it reached 100,000 cases on 22 june. .. two weeks later later, that number had doubled. there are now more than 280,000 cases in florida. that's the third highest number in the us, after new york and california. let's get a sense of what it's like in florida's hospitals. dr andrew past—esski is the icu medical director not often we talk about australian politics in the 1970s. stay with me there's a good reason this time. back in 1975 — the then prime minister gough whitlam was sacked and replaced by the opposition. it was a huge controversy because the decision was taken by the british governor—general. the governor general being queen elizabeth's representative in australia. he argued he had the authority to do this under implied powers in the constitution. the reason i'm telling you about this now is that these newly released letters from the national archives of australia show the queen was not informed in advance. there are hundreds of them between the governor—general, sirjohn kerr, and buckingham palace. john kerr wrote to the queen's private secretary on the day he dismissed the prime minister
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that he "was of the opinion "it was better for her majesty not to know in advance" but that "of course" his duty was to tell her immediately. the palace replied he had acted "not only with constitutional propriety, not all australian's were so glowing. the justification for the sacking was that gough whitlam had failed to get parliamentary approval for his spending plans, and was refusing to call an election. whitlam famously said this at the time of his dismissal. here we say god save the queen. of course, nothing will save the governor general. historians have long questioned what the palace knew about the removal of mr whitlam — they know all awful lot more now. here's shaimaa khalil in sydney on a pivotal moment in australia's history. this answers the big question of buckingham palace's involvement in that dismissal, with the queen knew.
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involvement in that dismissal, what the queen knew. now we know that she did not know if that decision before it happened and that sirjohn had made the final decision on his own. in these letters, he says that he has not informed the queen, he hadn't actually warned the premise or that he he hadn't actually warned the prime minister that he was going to sack him because he was worried that the prime minister himself was calling for his removal. so, while there isn't a really big bombshell of palace involvement in the dismissal, i think it's a really, really intriguing insight, if you will come into those correspondence at a time of high tension, but also, if you will, a tug—of—war at the top of australian politics at the time. this had shocked notjust the australian political scene, but people in general at the time because it was at the heart of the country's constitutional independence. buckingham palace has issued this statement today saying that "throughout her reign, her majesty has consistently demonstrated . support for australia, the primacy of the australian constitution and the independence
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of the australian people". thanks for watching. bye—bye. hello. it's all looking a bit dull for the next few days. cloud piling into the uk, tempering beautiful scenes like these with a flat old layer of grey. the reason for the cloud? a warm weather front advancing from the atlantic. plenty of cloud to go around, there was some brightness across eastern scotland in the northeast of england through tuesday, but i think during the next 2a hours, that front will basically spread cloud to all areas of the uk. and with the moisture coming in, it'll get pretty misty and murky around the coast, especially in the west and across the hills. overnight some rain for scotland, northern england and wales, and the southeast of england with showers for northern ireland. overnight lows 10—13 celsius. perhaps early brightness
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across eastern counties of england, but as the front continues to advance eastwards, the cloud moves in here during the day. some further rain across the northern half of the uk, there may be the audit sharp shower across into the midlands wednesday afternoon. but donning the scene will be all that cloud, grey skies, temperatures down a few degrees on average for the time of year. thursday we have some better prospects of seeing some sunshine break in through across england and wales, and eastern scotland really favoured with a fern effect here. we could see temperatures in some spots up to 23—24 celsius. to the west it's much grayer, wetter, and cooler. why is that? we have a cold weather front approaching. thursday night into friday, that will start to move
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