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but the spanish foreign minister insists the country is safe to visit. he is talking to the uk about excluding the canary and balearic islands from quarantine. and the two time oscar winner, dame olivia de havilland, who starred in gone with the wind, has died at the age of 104. welcome to look ahead as to what the papers will bring us tomorrow, with us, joe twyman, and property and personal finance commentator and ashworth, thank you both forjoining us ashworth, thank you both forjoining us and lovely to see you as far away as you are. tomorrow's front pages then starts with the guardian which says that holiday—makers are being
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warned that the government could impose handbrake restrictions to stop the spread of coronavirus with travel is unlikely to be given much warning when you quarantine measures need to be enforced. . the daily express also says there are fears that other countries popular with uk tourists could be added to the quarantine list. the daily mirror reports that british people with brea ks reports that british people with breaks booked to sprains might have to cancel their trip. many uk travellers say they would not have gone to spain had they known about the requirement to self—isolate for 14 the requirement to self—isolate for 1a days which will prevent a number of them from working. the daily telegraph leads with a government push to tackle obesity, saying anne has been a wake—up call on everyone overweight should lose at least £5 to save the nhs £100 million, as well as countless lives. meanwhile, the financial times says the european banks are based —— braced
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for more loan losses as a result of the covid—19 crisis. according to the covid—19 crisis. according to the daily mail, harry and meghan markle will never resume official roles following the publication of a biography laying bare the rift with the royal family. let's start with this widely trailed campaign against obesity where we expect the government to finally tell us about the government —— about it tomorrow. the daily telegraph says lose £5 in weight and save the nhs £100 million and setting the example for us is the prime minister with his dog, dyla n, the prime minister with his dog, dylan, and we know that the prime minister was compelled to lose a little bit of weight after he suffered coronavirus. yes, he said he had lost over a stone and when asked how he had done it he said through more exercise and eating less. it's not really rocket science in that respect and that was the announcement that his previously
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libertarian approach to telling people what their diet and exercise andindeed people what their diet and exercise and indeed their general level of fitness should be has been replaced bya, fitness should be has been replaced by a, shall we say, more dictatorial position although he would not use those words himself. the suggestion is anyone with a bmi over 30, so not hugely obese people, but anyone who is medically defined as obese should think about losing at least £5 and this would save the nhs a lot of money and there are two areas where the savings could be made —— five lbs. most depressingly in terms of the current period, it's to do with the current period, it's to do with the coronavirus. borisjohnson has conceded his own weight problem might have added to the seriousness of his illness when he suffered coronavirus and there is a lot of evidence that anyone with a bmi over 30 is at greater risk of more serious complications with coronavirus, so it needs to be dealt with in the short term but in the longer term the health of the nation
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is important. 0ne statistics firm say that britain is the fourth fattest country in europe, only malta, latvia, lithuania are ahead of us and we are well ahead of those countries are the other end such as italy and cyprus. the implications of that longer term on the nhs on on the health service more generally are going to be enormous, so this provides an excellent opportunity to create chances for people to change their behaviour, as we know many have done because of the lockdown. the difficulty is that some people have exercised less. that's the problem comments gone either way, some people found lockdown and inspiring period of time and an opportunity to change their lifestyles, but others felt rather overwhelmed by it and did not do that. but in the past borisjohnson has talked about the nanny state and hasn't wanted to go down that road but we will see restrictions on advertising for the types of foods the government wants us to avoid.
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0ne the government wants us to avoid. one can stand back in admiration of this campaign but i do actually question exactly how it's going to work. because in being able to lose that much weight depends on really developing good eating habits, and we know that a lot of people's diets are very poor. it is obviously that the prime minister has had a conversion to healthy eating and used to admit to a huge fondness for lots of cheese and spanish spicy sausage lots of cheese and spanish spicy sausage and he has been frightened into losing weight and i wonder what the compulsion will be for people to do this and how they will achieve it, because everybody knows that if you eat less and move about more, you eat less and move about more, you will lose weight, yet we become yearly more obese. it is difficult to do and sustain it for a lot of
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people and it's also the idea that you have to do it forever, notjust for now, and actually five lbs is ha rd to lose for now, and actually five lbs is hard to lose but it's not enough for some people. that's right. a lot of people will be expected to make serious changes to their lifestyle, and without any kind of incentive or methods in place for people to do that, it's extremely difficult. are the government, for instance, going to increase the amount of spending given to local authorities for leisure centres and swimming pools, particularly at the moment, as a report of the weekend said 10% of those could be at risk by the end of the year because of the financial problems around coronavirus. we are seeing potentially a massive reduction in the opportunities for people to get out there and exercise. not an increase. whereas that would be needed, and if we don't have healthy eating processes, what are people expected to do? as quite rightly said, it's not suddenly people will say if it turns out i eat less and exercise more, i
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will lose weight. no one at home is sitting and coming finally to the revelation, it's about behavioural change on the opportunities available to people to allow them to do that. lets move on but stay with the telegraph. france and germany could join spain on the quarantine list, which will really depress quite a lot of people if they booked holidays or need to travel to those countries in the next few weeks. they will be wondering whether they dare. this week will end -- this weekend we've seen a sudden change around. this time last week, we thought it would be ok to go on a foreign holiday and now it is quite clear that the government is going to apply what it calls a handbrake on trips. france, where cases are increasing, and also germany could start to be excluded and one does hear of people thinking, well, who cares? i'm going to go and buy a
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holiday anyway, but if the foreign and colonial office says you cannot travel, your insurance is not validated. there's quite a lot of resentment at the suddenness of these announcements and also at the impact on the travel trade which was starting to edge back into life, and we know just how starting to edge back into life, and we knowjust how many people are employed in that business. as anne says, if the foreign office says you can't go, so your insurance is valid so can't go, so your insurance is valid so you would be daft to try, but a lot will be have to be in a situation when you get the money back on the airlines will be worrying about not having enough passengers and we are back to where we we re passengers and we are back to where we were a few weeks ago. a lot of the stories in the last couple of weeks have either implicitly or explicitly given the impression we are at the end of this crisis, or perhaps at the beginning of the end and in actual fact, perhaps at the beginning of the end and in actualfact, this is only the end of the beginning and what we are seeing now with spain and what we might see in france and germany is
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that the situation can change very quickly on the ground, and the implications of that situation could be enormous and it's all very well saying, you can't tell people this quickly, give them warning, but we had a situation before lockdown of a warning that perhaps in a week there might bea warning that perhaps in a week there might be a situation where people couldn't travel and then you still get the uncertainty. there is no easy way out of this situation and realistically i would say anyone who has booked a holiday abroad or even potentially a holiday in this country for august and maybe even for september is taking a risk. now obviously, in some areas the risk is greater than others, but it could be that it's lockdown is for particular countries or areas of this country which could have huge applications for peoples holidays, so nothing can be guaranteed at this stage in this story simply reinforces that. channelling a bit of donald rumsfeld
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with the end of the beginning and beginning of the end, he reminded me of the unknowns on the known unknowns. talking about the pain in spain, we had so many people thinking we could have holiday after all and here they are in limbo after all and here they are in limbo after all and here they are in limbo after all and some people got off the plane and two or three minutes later discovered they were going to have to self—isolate for 1h days when they got back. the impact of this is just huge. about 18 million britons go just huge. about 18 million britons go to spain every year in a normal year and it go to spain every year in a normal yearand it is go to spain every year in a normal year and it is the place that we like to escape, it's associated in our minds with gorgeous beaches and sunshine, and indeed the spanish wa nt sunshine, and indeed the spanish want to welcome us back and would like to have exceptions made for the balearic and canary islands. nevertheless, the ban is on and it does have implications for people coming back. they have quarantine and if they're going to miss work they have no guarantee of being
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paid, and we just see this as a situation that is going to be unfolding throughout the summer. we had this sort of feeling that everything is returning to normal. we are nowhere near normal, and everything that is happening in the travel industry isjust everything that is happening in the travel industry is just a symbol of that. it's a symbol that we are in the middle of that and other parts of the rest of the world, which are also on the quarantine list like canada, america, latin america, parts of central america as well, are parts of central america as well, a re really parts of central america as well, are really still in the thick of this, aren't they? 0ur government was criticised by some for not acting soon enough in the past and now they have acted quickly, they are criticised for that as well. there are no easy answers in this situation. there are countries, canada, the us, a lot of latin america, which are really suffering and are very much on the upward
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trend, but even those countries that have been improving, including britain, there is no guarantee there won't be local or national spikes and how you deal with that is extraordinarily difficult and anne mentioned the ca nary extraordinarily difficult and anne mentioned the canary and balearic islands, and the canary islands are a long way from mainland spain and asi a long way from mainland spain and as i understand it, have had relatively few problems with coronavirus throughout the pandemic. and so, you could quite reasonably be argued that there would be fair a perfect location for people to visit, but of course, the rules are very broadbrush and at the moment, apply to all of spain. and how you deal with that on a country by country basis is very difficult but i'm almost certain this is the first of what could be potentially many different countries and many different countries and many different areas for whom this is a problem. i hope this isn't an issue of poor geography on the part of ministers as we have her in the past when a certain minister didn't
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realise how important the dover crossing was to france. the daily mirror is where we will finish with this story, holiday hell for millions of british people and the argument is that the government knew on friday what the day was but they waited until saturday to issue the restrictions. i wonder whether some more data is coming out in spain about the severity of cases. there we re about the severity of cases. there were some stories in the big spanish newspapers about the numbers of deaths in spain having been underreported, and may be the background to this is the idea that the severity of what seems to be happening is actually quite large, and it's not just happening is actually quite large, and it's notjust a few happening is actually quite large, and it's not just a few cases and the spanish might be saying that most of the people are not going to transmit it to anybody, but i think the data is so vague that the government has erred very much on the side of caution, and indeed, i don't think we can possibly blame
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them for that. if you willjust —— we re them for that. if you willjust —— were just about planned to go on holiday next week, it's really, really tough. it is. the guardian, plan for over a0 is to pay more tax for social care and we have seen how the care sector is really struggling in this pandemic. yes, this pandemic has raised one of the many big questions that any government across the developed world now faces over the developed world now faces over the next ten or 20 or 30 years, questions about climate change, globalisation, autonomy, art of volition intelligence and robots and there are major, major questions to be asked about how we as a planet deal with our ageing population. no country has done a perfectjob yet of dealing with that but germany and japan both have schemes that have been widely lauded and there are suggestions that britain will adopt something along those lines. the
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difficulty is that this is an enormous political hot potato, particularly for the conservative party who don't want to be seen as the party that gets people to sell their houses in order to pay for their houses in order to pay for their care, particularly when so many of their voters are older, certainly more than the other main parties. but anne, we need to stop being infantilised parties. but anne, we need to stop being infa ntilised by parties. but anne, we need to stop being infantilised by politicians and face up to the fact that these things cost. if not now, when? we all have to get used to the fact that taxes are going to have to go up that taxes are going to have to go up to pay for every single one of the consequences of the pandemic, the consequences of the pandemic, the health, the social care, and also the huge amounts of government subsidy that are being given to key people in work through the furlough and other schemes. and i think it's really good that they are beginning to make people think about paying
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for social care and start early paying for it as they do in other countries, and anybody who imagines who is in a reasonably affluent position imagining that they won't be paying more tax next year is in an extraordinary state of delusion. this is the point where the government can raise taxes and it definitely needs to do so on homes, on the sale of shares, everything is probably going to be more heavily taxed. tell us about the daily mail story with no way back for harry and meghan markle, a biography called a bombshell. this is the book which apparently the duke and duchess of sussex have had nothing to do with which is all about how they decided to leave the royal family. this has been running in the times and sunday times and has been followed by all the papers and it seems as if the revelations in that book, or
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something else, mean that harry and meghan will not be able to use the opportunity that they were given by the queen to come back into public life. now, there has to be a question over this. but it is quite interesting, their version of events, whether or not they gave their permission for the book. they say they did not collaborate in it, but it seems as though there will be consequences for this and that harry will never resume the life he used to have with all his military connections. it's really rather a shame. everybody is very interested in family rows, but this is a family row that has very, very big implications. just briefly, it does seem that they were may be regarding this as a trial period but it might have to become permanent, if the article is correct. the suggestion is the plans have now been torpedoed
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by this book. harry and meghan claim they have not been involved with the writing of this book but diana princess of wales claimed she was not involved with the writing of the andrew morton book in the early 19905. andrew morton book in the early 1990s. were they involved? i really don't know. and when i say no, i also mean care. thank you for your candour? the daily telegraph is where we will go back to. profits for women on board increased tenfold ? for women on board increased tenfold? apparently if you board is more representative of the workers and the world generally, you can be more profitable. that shouldn't really co m e more profitable. that shouldn't really come as a massive surprise but it does highlight the huge inequalities we have across many, many different companies, notjust the largest companies in this country but also small to medium sized businesses where the boards are stuffed full of men, generally white men, generally white men from middle—class backgrounds and
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expanding that, and i say it as a business owner, i say expanding that to include people from all different backgrounds, not just focusing to include people from all different backgrounds, notjust focusing on gender but background, and really increasing the representativeness of those boards can only be a good thing, notjust for those boards can only be a good thing, not just for financial reasons but for social reasons as well. but it's perhaps the fact the bottom line looks better that will encourage more companies to invite women onto their boards. encourage more companies to invite women onto their boardslj encourage more companies to invite women onto their boards. i can only thoroughly applaud what joe has just said. rememberthat thoroughly applaud what joe has just said. remember that what we need thoroughly applaud what joe has just said. rememberthat what we need in our businesses is cognitive diversity, different ways of looking at issues, and it seems as if women bring to a board a kind of new vision of events or how the business should be run that does improve it. these things are really well known, that you're more likely to see ce05 called peter in the biggest companies than there are women,
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which is an extraordinary statistic. but i think we are going to have to re i nve nt but i think we are going to have to reinvent so much of our lives. let's hope that britain's boardrooms follow. have you been approached, anne, about sitting on boards? don't tell us which ones, we don't want any advertising. i would think sitting on a board would be really very interesting but people need to be ready forjust how much work there is, and just indeed how much responsibility. i wonder whether, it's an interesting point, whether women are more overwhelmed by the responsibilities in stepping back from taking those roles when men would seize them without perhaps thinking so much about all of the duties towards employees that there are. it is a huge responsibility. let's look at the independent. 0livia de havilland, 1916—2020,
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pictured in 1938 when she was in gone with the wind. an extraordinary career and so many accolades as well. yes, two academy awards and most famous for her role in gone with the wind as melanie but my favourite role as maid marian in robin hood with errol flynn and to give you an idea of the longevity, errol flynn died in 1959, so she really is perhaps the last attachment we have two old hollywood, to the studio system, to the hayes production code. an incredible period of creativity but a very, very different time. and her passing means really the end of anyone living who still existed during that time, but a fascinating actress with an incredible body of
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work. and also a very gutsy person in taking on the studios and breaking the system, because they had such a stranglehold over so many actors and actresses and she managed to stop that. sorry, anne, i do forget i have to tell you who i am talking to. it is an extraordinary life, one of extraordinary courage within the studio system, but also it was only a few weeks ago that we saw the lady out on her tricycle. to the end, she was living life to the fold. and this is the moment when i really can't wait to read the obituaries tomorrow. i like quite —— i quite like reading obituaries of just exactly her role within the star syste m just exactly her role within the star system in one of the greatest films ever made, gone with the wind, and also her interesting relationship with her sister, joan fontaine, which wasn't always the warmest. so much to read and such a
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compelling lie. yes, and from a family of absolute oval achievers. the havilland is a name we associate with the comet, the mosquito, the aeroplanes which our cousins were involved in developing. as anne says rightly, she had an incredible life. and part of a family that touched so many different areas of life, not just in america but of the world, and she really was one of the first world stars in a way that people had been until that point, and as a result of the growth and internationalisation of cinema and film more generally, so quite alive, quite an innings, and i'm sure many people will say she is deeply missed. a super quick comment from both of you. we are looking at the yorkshire post and we don't do that often enough. and the story is, and you have properly seen the pictures, the st bernard dog rescued from a mountain ona
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