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hello, this is bbc news. first the headlines. the government insists it will not bring in tough new national restrictions, after reports that options are being considered to contain a spike in coronavirus cases. the conservative party says an mp who was arrested on suspicion of rape will not be suspended while police investigate the allegations. the australian state of victoria declares a state of disaster and imposes new lockdown measures
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after a surge in coronavirus infections. there will be a night—time curfew for the next six weeks. visual confirmation for splash down. and the spacex dragon capsule, has splashed down off the coast of florida, after returning from the international space station. both astronauts are safely out and on the recovery boat. hello, and welcome to our look ahead to what the papers will be bringing us tomorrow. with me are the political writer and academic, maya goodfellow, and former conservative party
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adviser, mo hussein. let's bring you up—to—date with the newspapers this evening. the metro leads with this evening. the news the government is considering new rules if the number of new coronavirus cases continues to rise including ordering those over the age of 50 to stay at home. the ft says donald trump has vowed to ‘take action‘ against chinese software companies that he perceives to be a risk to security, after the president vowed to ban the video app tik tok. the telegraph says the government's chief whip has been accused of ‘failing to act‘ on complaints against a former minister who was arrested over a suspected rape at the weekend. according to sources, mark spencer was not aware of the ‘magnitude' of the allegations. the mail headlines two new tests which will be offered to millions of britons next week in what it calls a ‘major advance' in the war against coronavirus. and there's more on covid—19
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in the guardian, which says one of britain's leading scientists has criticised the government's handling of the crisis, and urged ministers to be more open about the reasons behind their policies. so let's begin. welcome to you both. lovely to see you and have your both with us again. iam you and have your both with us again. i am so sorry we are not in the studio together but i know you will be guiding us through the papers and plenty to talk about. maya, let's begin with the daily mail. a very striking headline, 90 minute tests to transform the war on coronavirus. yes, this is a story thatis coronavirus. yes, this is a story that is covered in a few of the papers about these new tests which mean hopefully that people will be able to get their results much quicker and we know from months now, way back in march when the world health organization was saying one of the key things in order to really address and deal with coronavirus
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and the best way possible is test, test, test, and it is something the uk in particular alongside a number of other countries has really struggled with in terms of getting test done, handsomely and quickly and it makes it very difficult to track the virus and know exactly how it is spreading throughout society, so it is spreading throughout society, so this story are seeing there will be tests more widely available that can be processed incredibly quickly so can be processed incredibly quickly so people will know if they have the virus and can act accordingly. i think we should all keep an eye on this in terms of how this develops because something that has happened, u nfortu nately has because something that has happened, unfortunately has not happened successfully is that uk testing capacity so even care homes recently still did not have testing capabilities so people cannot visit relatives and we also know care homes are the sites of some huge numbers of deaths when people have been sent back from hospital to care homes and then have spread coronavirus in those care homes and so coronavirus in those care homes and so what we really need and we have
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needed for months now is better testing capabilities and the whole of the population tested regularly and very quickly and so we need to keep and i on this as it develops. very much so. mo, i suppose what is encouraging about this is for all the talk of vaccines, that will be some way off and this is at least a way of knowing who is infected particularly with people who are east to matic you are cheerfully going around completely unaware that they are infected and therefore able to infect others. —— asymptomatic. it's a change in approach to can i catch it, can i spread it on while we wait for the vaccine which would be the dream, really, to deal with this, i think this is certainly a really positive development because at that scale, we are talking about entire cities that can be tested very quickly, then it is very easy to pinpoint where the outbreaks are happening and try to take action to contain them and then not have to
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move to a much broader national lockdown which i think is certainly of concern to people in government and also the impact that would have oi'i and also the impact that would have on the economy, so anything that can help identify where the flare—ups are and deal with them is certainly welcome and for now, even the standard at the moment is 24—hour turnaround some 90 minutes will be a lot quicker and a lot easier for people to then also be able to get oi'i people to then also be able to get on with their everyday lives if they are not positive. what do you make of the story on the telegraph front page, rapid tests mean entire cities could be tested? given the kind of anger there has been in some parts of the north west of england over the additional lockdown measures, very u nfortu nate the additional lockdown measures, very unfortunate that they happened to coincide with eid, a festival where people spend a lot of time in close contact, which i suppose is partly why the introduced it where
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they did, if you can do it on scale where there is a local eruption, you have a much better chance of containing it and identifying exactly where it is. i think that is right andl exactly where it is. i think that is right and i think this is the reality we will be living with for a very long time. you have to pinpoint where it is coming back up again. it is never going to go away entirely, but i do not think the answer can always be a lockdown again at national scale. we need to see where the flare—ups are, why they may be happening so if this technology can help to identify that and to test the city quickly and even look within a city to see which areas are affected, i think that is to be welcomed. maya, the telegraph also says, which may be less welcome for people my age, that they could conceivably ask people to shield based on age and notjust, as it has been over 70s, but now potentially over 50s. yes, this is another story
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that has been doing the rounds today and it is this idea that people would receive tailored letters that identify whether they are individually at higher risk than maybe other people, particularly if there is an increase in their virus in the population and especially if we have the sort of testing that allows us to see this better. robert jenrette, i believe, has played this down and i think one of the things here to note is actually devi sridhar, a professor at edinburgh university, has talked about the fa ct university, has talked about the fact that this is not needed but what is needed and has been needed for months now is really proper testing, tracking and tracing. that is really only the way to identify where the virus is and really reduce its circulation in society and that is the real solution, that is what we have needed for months now. i think we need a real discussion
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about why we have not had those capabilities and moving forward, i hope that the stories we are seeing around testing are what is going to happen because not only is this provoking some understandable anger amongst people over the age of 50 but also people under the age of 50 being left to be at risk or not, maybe get a letter, there needs to be more communication about this and what the strategy will be. turning to the guardian, this is interesting, a poor nurse who could hardly be more distinguished, a nobel laureate, saying that what he perceives... and this is a criticism of whitehall, where you used to work, probably trying to open things up work, probably trying to open things up as you dealt with media relations often and trying to get the machine to move, but arguing that there has been too much secrecy over how the virus decision—making has been carried out. what do you make of that? i looked at this and i can
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understand the call for taking people with you in terms of the big demands that government has placed oi'i demands that government has placed on people in the big interventions that have been made, i support that, but i do not agree with what he is saying because i think actually there has been quite a lot of transparency in terms of data that has been shared by the scientists and the medics as well as ministers, in terms of the daily updates in the first part of the pandemics, the press conferences and questions from the public. having worked in government, i do think it is easy to call things out from the sidelines, but when you are faced with making very big decisions about people's lives and, sadly, life—and—death decisions, you do have to work with the information that you have and you have to move very quickly. we are still learning about this virus and you do not always have the leisure of complete transparency or a complete challenge, so there will
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be an inquiry into this, but i think people have to act quickly, especially if they are trying to stop the spread of this and some of these decisions do have to be taken by the right people and they may not be able to be discussed more widely for a very good reasons. and we are seeing quick decisions not least in victoria in australia where melbourne is having a night—time cu rfew melbourne is having a night—time curfew which will have just finished as we are speaking, but they have moved fast. maya, i know we will talk about about this in an hour's time, but let's move on now to the financial times. we had this very strange thing on friday when donald trump said he could ban tik tok as soon as trump said he could ban tik tok as soon as tomorrow, trump said he could ban tik tok as soon as tomorrow, but it seems to now be a broader attack. is itjust from what the ft is saying just pre—election stuff or is it more serious, do you think? there is an element of this being a pre—election ploy by donald trump to try to whip
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up ploy by donald trump to try to whip up support for his upcoming presidential campaign, but i think looking at this story, but this is really about is that there is a chinese tech company which has a minority stake in the us business tik tok and the us government rejected this involvement and says it isa rejected this involvement and says it is a risk in terms of personal data and now there has been there is talk of a deal between microsoft and this chinese technical company that microsoft would actually take over the sort of part of the tik tok operations in the us and now there is real dispute actually and debate around why donald trump has gone after this company and why whether this is actually about reducing the amount it would sell its shares for or its involvement or if this is really also about donald trump trying to play with his base and where their people will really want to be engaging with this kind of listening to what he is saying and whether this is broader beyond tik tok and whipping up this dislike of
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china and, particular companies in china. what do you make of it and what the ft has to say on this?” think as maya was saying, there is some electioneering going on here, but the wider point is interesting in terms of not just the us but the wider point is interesting in terms of notjust the us but but the wider point is interesting in terms of not just the us but the we st in terms of not just the us but the west itself and china. we started here in the uk with the government's decisions on huawei, so the idea of this chinese encroachment in terms of people's infrastructure and business practices is being looked ata business practices is being looked at a lot. but i think inverting it is also interesting. a lot of us tech companies, when i worked in the home office as a special adviser, we worked with them a lot in terms of taking down illegal content quicker. there's also issues around taxation. if other countries were to apply this notjust rhetoric but action against us tech companies, then i think is this signalling that tech
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is fairgame and think is this signalling that tech is fair game and then were just that ta ke is fair game and then were just that take us? it feels like it could be one to watch and a story that could implicate not just tik tok but many other internet giants as well. maya, nis other internet giants as well. maya, n is back on the guardian if we may with a very striking photograph of lewis hamilton. you are big fan of lewis hamilton. you are big fan of lewis hamilton? not really, but i felt before the graph was very powerful. this is him winning his seventh grand prix and it was on his final lap, a puncture in one of his tyres and he inched over the finish line just in tyres and he inched over the finish linejust in time, tyres and he inched over the finish line just in time, sol tyres and he inched over the finish line just in time, so i think the photo is really, really powerful. a bit of good news, i guess. what do you make of it, obviously a beautiful sunny days so you really get the trophy glinting in the sunlight and this powerful image with the fist raised from hamilton himself. yeah, i think it does tells about a very hard—won victory and i
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think lots of hearts were probably in mouths watching, especially the la st in mouths watching, especially the last lap and the tyre deflating a bit, so he has won many of these things, but i think today was slightly more meaningful. absolutely. thank you both very much. we will speak again in just over half an hour's time. for now, thank you very much for guiding us through tomorrow morning's front pages. we will be back with a paper review at 11:30pm. i will be back with news at the top of the hour. for now, we have click.
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hey, welcome to click. hope you are doing ok. this week, we have something special for you. you see, every so often we start investigating a subject, thinking it will make a nice, interesting five—minute film, but then we tug on a particular thread and it turns out there is something way bigger and way weirder going on than we thought. talking of way weirder, here's omar mehtab. hey, mate. hey, how's it going? good, thanks. so do you want to start off by telling us what you were originally sent out to look at? we wanted to find out how online influencers, the big personalities you see on social media, have been impacted during the pandemic. it seemed pretty straightforward. yeah, and then things got really interesting, right? yeah, it did. we started doing a little bit of digging and a pattern emerged of influencers abusing the trust of their millions of followers for their own financial gain.
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our story started here, with some of the biggest social media influencers in the world. a group called faze clan, famous for esports and entertainment. put your hands together for faze clan! they have 230 million followers, and were recently valued at $250 million. more people are watching, more people have time to watch more, and they want more even when they're done, because they're still on their phones, looking for content to consume. here is the thing. the majority of influencers don't have hundreds of millions of followers and a slick ceo. there are millions of influencers who are sole traders, and they're actually able to make
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a living with only tens of thousands of followers. the people who are famous to you on instagram may not be the same people who are famous to me on instagram, because there are millions of them, who have varying levels of followers and influence. but those millions of mini influencers depend on smaller brands, smaller deals, and a lot less of them, and we found out that many of them have struggled during the pandemic. zara mcdermott is one influencer who sits in the middle ground. she has gotjust under 1.5 million followers, and she works with a lot of mid—level brands. i've seen influencers taking on jobs that i wouldn't necessarily see them taking on before the pandemic, just because i think there's a little bit of an air of, like, let's take as manyjobs as we possibly can. but this was the moment it became so much more. right at the end of the interview, zara said something which took our investigation in an unexpected new direction.
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so, since the pandemic began, we found that we've received a really large quantity of e—mails from brands selling what i think is counterfeit goods, and basically trying to get influencers to market these on their channels. and ijust believe that a lot of these brands are trying to exploit influencers during this time, by offering them excessive amounts of money for very small deliverables. and not all of these influencers had turned these offers down. as you can see, i have my new wireless earphones in. i literally use my airpods every single day... and they're all wireless. the sound quality is banging, really good, and they connect to any bluetooth device. now, off—camera of zara's interview, her manager, charli paton, told us that her e—mail inbox was flooded by companies offering thousands to get them
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to advertise knockoff products. so we went to find out more. some of the slightly more suspicious brands that reach out to us are often willing to pay, and i know that they do actually pay, a lot more money than the going rate in the industry, sometimes even up to three times the price that we'd usually charge for certain promotions. i think that they prey on the fact that influencers and management companies don't always do this due diligence. so charli was fed up of getting all these scam e—mails asking them to promote knockoff products and put their business at risk. so she wanted to find out — who was behind it all? and there was just one product that kept on coming up again and again and again — knockoff apple airpods. and then we found out that even the biggest influencers in the world
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were being paid to promote these knockoff airpods. each airpod comes with a charging case and a charging cable. swipr up to check them out right now. their whole site is 70% off, and use code kylie for free shipping. kylie and kendalljenner have a combined following of 337 million followers on instagram, and there they were promoting a company called nova play, whose earphones seem to be an exact copy of apple's airpods. apple did provide a statement for us and said that last year alone, they start the removal of cluster i million listings for counterfeit and knock—off products from online marketplaces. it was about this time that we started talking to some e—commerce experts to find out who was behind this wave of knockoff product and influencer promotions. and there was one word that kept coming up — drop shipping.
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the issue of drop shipping is a relatively new phenomenon. it's a very, very fast—moving business model that's constantly changing. we're constantly seeing new entrants into the market, new platforms that provide the service, so as regulators and enforcers, to a certain extent, we're always trying play catch—up. we started searching and we found hundreds of people saying they were making a fortune drop shipping. but what is it? here's a little rundown. the drop shipper goes to an online chinese marketplace, often aliexpress. they find a low—priced product, set up a website, and add a huge markup. influencers are paid to promote the product and send you straight to the website. when you buy the product, it's shipped directly to you from china. the seller could be on a different continent and never even see the product.
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drop shippers don't hold any inventory, so there's no financial risk. and it's important to be really clear — drop shipping isn't illegal. for example, here's kevin david, who just moved into his pretty sweet new apartment in miami, and he gave us a very honest insight about the insane amount of money that drop shippers are actually making. you can have a massive business without ever going to china. right? like, i've personally sent millions of dollars to china, i've, you know, gotten millions and millions of dollars‘ worth of products. i‘ve never been to china. those airpods i‘ve actually seen. some of my friends have stores doing hundreds of thousands of dollars a month selling those, right? someone will spend hundreds of millions, however much money it costs to create it, and then china will essentially reverse engineer it. some sharp drop shippers take advantage of that and they create massive, massive incomes
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by leveraging those trends. so we contacted loads of drop shippers, and even chatted to quite a few of them. and there was one thing that really stood out amongst them all. they‘re just like you and me. some of them even work out of their bedroom. but the difference is, they‘re making huge sums of money. i grabbed one of the products that took me to, it was a super bowl ring. i made $55,000 in that month, quit myjob, and then fast forward, i made over $20 million in the last five years. drop shipping dramatically changed my life. all we needed to do was look on youtube at these guys bragging about how much money they‘re making, and sharing tips on how to get in on it. and, when we were going through all these videos, we found something incredible. one guy was even showing other drop shippers a template letter to copy and send influencers. it was that easy. and the template that
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i give my students, that you can just copy and paste and use for yourself. it‘s right here. instagram influencer reach out script. and i‘m going to say "hey", and the name of that person "my name is", and you‘re going to put your name. that youtube explainer was stunning, and revealed so much. the professional looking e—mails charli showed us, sent from the mysterious companies, were actually just from bedrooms around the world. and the shadowy drop shippers were just entrepreneurs trying their luck. like many things, you‘ve got your good guys and you‘ve got your bad guys. but the problem is, it‘s really easy to be a bad guy when you‘re an anonymous person sitting behind a laptop. and gabriel told us how some drop shippers can easily scam people. i see stores that come and goes, they literally steal money from people. one of the stores were selling iron man hat, which was like a real hat that goes up and down, and they were selling it for $29. when you go to alibaba
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and aliexpress, the selling price is what is real, and those stores make millions of dollars within a month and they theyjust wipe the entire store and they collect the money, they disappear and they don‘t ship any products. and those stores are literally, like, everywhere. so, from zara telling us about the suspicious e—mails she‘d been receiving, we delved into a world made possible only by the modern internet. now, a teenager in kansas can persuade an influencer in london to promote a product, then that leads to someone in stockholm buying something from a factory in china which copies the design of a company in california. it‘s a truly global story. and i‘m afraid that is where we have to stop for the short cut of this week‘s click, but do check omar‘s full investigation.
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it is on bbc iplayer right now. omar also did more investigations on the trending podcast. that‘s available on bbc sounds. don‘t forget that we live in social media, on youtube, facebook, instagram, and twitter, and you can trust us. we are @bbcclick. thanks for watching, and we will see you soon. hello there. under the starry skies overnight as the showers have been fading away, temperatures are dipping away. so it‘ll be a chilly start to our monday morning. but there will be plenty of sunshine and, again, a few showers around. a bit more cloud around at times pushing into northern ireland
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and scotland with showers here, but hopefully fewer than we‘ve seen recently. a few showers will be scattered across england and wales, but they could turn heavy into the afternoon, particularly in eastern england where thunder can‘t be ruled out. but away from the showers and the sunshine, and with the light wind away from the northwest, it should feel pleasant enough. then as we go through the night, we‘ve got rain arriving — so a complete change in the weather as we go through monday night into tuesday. that will stop the temperatures falling so low. and when this arrives, it‘ll give quite a lot of rain and stronger winds, particularly for scotland and northern ireland during the course of tuesday, pushing its way further southwards then on wednesday. but it will fizzle out, and then, the heat and the sunshine returns later in the week.
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this is bbc news with the latest headlines for viewers in the uk and around the world. nasa astronauts splashdown to earth in the first crewed us water landing in 45 years. the doctor overseeing the white house response to the coronavirus has warned that the united states has entered a new phase of the pandemic. after introducing local lockdown measures, british ministers say there are no plans for a one—size—fits—all approach. what we're concentrating on is a targeted rather than a blanket approach. if the rate of infection rises to a concerning level, we will take decisive action. the australian state of victoria
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