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hi, good morning, this is victoria derbyshire. welcome to bbc news with the latest headlines. back to school for pupils in england and wales, but a warning that some children are months behind in their learning. ministers say it's vital students return to the classroom. schools are open, they're ready for those young people, they've put in place all the measures that i've been talking about to keep people safe. but it is important for both their educational prospects and their mental health that young people are back in school over the course of this week. if you've got children going back to school this week, how are you feeling about it? @vicderbyshire or email victoria@bbc.co.uk. marcus rashford's new goal, the manchester united striker tells the bbc why he's heading up a task force to make sure children don't go hungry. i feel like at times people think like they're being looked down on if they ask somebody for help. and i think in this generation
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that we are in, that's one thing that should change. president trump defends one of his supporters who's charged with murdering two people during protests against the police shooting of a black man. changes to the government's furlough scheme come into effect with employers having to contribute to the cost from today. and coming up this hour. we'll look at the impact the pandemic has had on the nightlife economy and speak to some of those affected. the coronavirus pandemic has led to a growing divide between children from the most deprived schools and those from wealthier areas, according to a new survey. the study, by the national foundation for education research, concluded that children in england are three months behind
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in their learning, with boys and pupils from poorer areas worst affected. children in england and wales begin to return to school today, with many going in for the first time in six months. let's speak now to chris mason, our political correspondent. ministers have got this attainment gap to deal with and also a big decision on next year's exams? yes, the attainment gap is really quite striking. the government is emphasising what it said a couple of weeks back about the additional money it is putting into catch up programmes for pupils returning to schools this week, or next. i think there is an acute awareness at westminster of what a challenge that is why the government that has been keen to emphasise how important it is that pupils get back to school. and unlike before the summer holidays, there is confidence within
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government that it is going to happen on time as expected, with the vast majority of head teachers saying that schools are opening in full, and plenty of parents as confident as they can be that that is the right thing to do to get people back into schools. schools have had the summer to try and work out the practicalities of social distancing and bubbles in that kind of thing. a couple of things have emerged this morning that are worth touching on, nick gibb, the schools minister for touching on, nick gibb, the schools ministerfor england, touching on, nick gibb, the schools minister for england, has touching on, nick gibb, the schools ministerfor england, has been doing the round of interviews. i'm not sure it's entirely clear what will happen in the context of a school or a class if an individual pupil tests positive, will that entire bubble, a class or a school year, have to spend a fortnight doing school remotely, working from home? it's not entirely clear, i suppose the next couple of weeks could give us a test case where we will see what will happen. the other big question being asked on the first day of term
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for plenty in england is what happens at the end of the school year as far as exams are concerned, gcse, a.s. and a—levels. it's looking likely that those exams could be pushed back to try and deal with the attainment gap, the fact that pupils have missed a lot of schooling. the government is not being specific about the exact timings and when they will say whether or not the exams will be pushed back. here is nick gibb who was on the bbc earlier. we have been looking at this issue since mid june and we will come to a decision shortly so that schools know what the position will be. we have also changed the assessment process to make sure we can free up as much teaching time as possible so those young people can catch up. that's why it's so important that young people return to school. it is pretty likely that there will be a short delay to exams next summer, once the government can work out the practicalities of how you do that so
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you don't delay universities starting in the autumn, and the general practicalities of what is quite a weighty thing to do. if the government was not keen on doing it, they would have squashed it by now and it looks like they are examining the practicalities of making it happen. mps are back today, what is top of the in—tray? happen. mps are back today, what is top of the in-tray? yes, start of a new term in westminster, lots for the government to wrestle with. the cabinet will be meeting in the next hour or cabinet will be meeting in the next hourorso, cabinet will be meeting in the next hour or so, using the locarno suite in the foreign office, a sufficiently big room that they can all meet in person so no mile zoom doom —— no more. plenty of conservative mps privately and some publicly pretty cheesed off with the government over the summer and all of the about turns we saw about exams and school meals, frustrated they are invited onto the problems like these and defending a public
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policy to the hilt and then 45 minutes it would be scrapped. so the tory mps need to be reassured that the government knows what it is doing, but opinion polls say that voters don't mind u—turns if they perceive a u—turn as something which they believe to be sensible. i think westminster gets more excited about them than people beyond this postcard. a new senior civil servant this morning, a guy called simon case, the most senior civil servant in the country. it was first reported yesterday in the financial times. he used to be a private secretary to prince william, and he has been poached by borisjohnson. the most striking detail about simon case, he has worked all over the civil service in the last 15 years, the most striking detail is that it is not just the most striking detail is that it is notjust the police officers who looked young these days, so do the most civil servants in the country,
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he's 41. what's your point, chris? he is doing quite well for himself! i don't seek to criticise, i'm only a year younger and he has achieved quite a lot. you are lucky, you're younger, i'm ten years older, how do younger, i'm ten years older, how do you think i feel! thank you, chris. let's speak now to dr angela donkin, chief social scientist at the national foundation for educational research. 90% of teachers in your survey say their pupils are three months behind in their learning. their pupils are three months behind in theirlearning. can their pupils are three months behind in their learning. can those children and teachers help make that 7 children and teachers help make that t's children and teachers help make that up? it's not quite that, 9896 of teachers think that children are behind. and on average, by three months. there is a bit of a range there, so some teachers, certainly in more deprived areas, think they are, they are twice as likely to say that those children will be four
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months behind. but in terms of catching up, it is possible to catch up catching up, it is possible to catch up with tutoring. i think the question needs to be whether or not the amount of money available and the amount of money available and the number of tutors available will be sufficient. it is £1 billion, the government to say, to primary and secondary schools. that's with specific focus on those kids from less wealthy backgrounds. obviously, that sounds like an awful lot of money, is that going to do it? well, in our survey, we asked how many children the teachers thought needed intensive catch up, that would be covered with tutoring, and 44% of people need that intensive catch up. so if you look at the kind of proportion and numbers of pupils, that's quite a lot of pupils. so a billion sounds a lot, but unless
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tutors are working at a lower rate that i am aware that they normally work out in terms of how much they get paid, i think the billion will be very stretched. so what are possible barriers to making up that lost time, do you think?|j possible barriers to making up that lost time, do you think? i think what we have found is that injuly, when teachers did go back as some pupils did go back, that three quarters of the teachers found that they were struggling to maintain the same level of quality in teaching that they would normally be able to do before the pandemic. so, for instance, with social distancing, they felt that they could not do small group work, they couldn't walk around the class. i think there's an assumption that we will get everyone back to school, which is absolutely the right thing, and that everybody
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will be able to continue at the same pace, may be, as before the pandemic. but i don't think that that's going to be the case at all, actually. i think it will take some adjusting to teach in these new times. thank you very much, let me know how you are feeling about your kids going back to school this week, if they are. plenty are back already, how's it going for you as well? let me know on twitter or instagram. england's marcus rashford has formed a task force with charities and supermarkets to try to end child food poverty in the uk. three months ago his campaign led to the government making a u—turn on providing free school meal vouchers in england during the lockdown. the manchester united striker has written a letter to the prime minister, outlining the extra help he says some families still need. he's been speaking exclusively to sally nugent. go on, get it.
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0h! for the footballer marcus rushford, this is a deeply personal project. i am a single parent. itjust helped him so much with getting food for himself. thank you. it's no problem. i thinkjust to see the smiles on their faces and to see how much it has helped them made me happy to see that actually with my own eyes. it's a stigma. they look at it as, well, who goes to these places, food bank? they look down on it, but with you speaking about it and saying you have been through it, it has given a family confidence. ok, he has gone through it. it is only a situation, we can pass it and ask for help. marcus spent the summer thinking about what he wants to do next. we pretty much knew straightaway that we had found a short—term solution, but that wasn't going to work in the long run
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so we had to think about how is the best way to do it so that these families can eat long term and not have any issues. hello, everyone. can everybody hear me? some of the biggest brands on the country are on this call. most have now signed up to rashford's task force. they are supporting these proposals from the national food strategy. expanding free school meals to every child from a household on universal credit or similar benefits. providing holiday food and activities for all children on free school meals. increasing healthy start food vouchers from £3.10 to £4.25 per week. henry dimbleby is leading the review and spoke at the start of the call. it is important because the alternative to a school lunch is packed lunch, and only 1% of packed lunches have the nutritional value of a school meal, and if you look at packed lunches
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as children get less affluent, those packed lunches have increasingly low nutritional balance. so this is a fantastic way to get children eating well at school. we're not specialists in the area. they actually are. so i am learning so much more, they are giving me figures that have sent me a bit... like, wow! now, the footballer has written to the prime minister, thanking him for the u—turn over free school meals in the summer holidays back in june. in a very personal letter drawing on his own experiences as a child, he outlines the extra help he feels some families still need now more than ever. his task force calls for it to be funded as soon as possible. marcus rashford is hoping that by extending the conversation about food poverty with a bigger team of experts around him, he might be able to help even more of today's children.
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sally with that story. a couple of m essa 9 es sally with that story. a couple of messages from you. claire has children going back to school, she says, i'm really nervous that my 13—year—old will bring the virus back to me or my dad, we have underlying conditions. the bubble has children with different siblings in different bubbles, and the public transport has no social distancing although they will will masks. we are sending her back, but we're not going to put her on the bus, we will drive her. and fiona says, we don't know if a second wave is coming and i don't want my children to be at greater exposure unnecessarily although their school is accident and i'm sure they will be as prepared as they can be. —— their school is excellent. but i do wonder if it is all too quick. plenty of pa rents a re if it is all too quick. plenty of parents are very over the moon and
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cannot wait their kids to go back andi cannot wait their kids to go back and i might even be one of those pa rents. president trump and his presidential rival, joe biden, have made bitter attacks on each other over the issue of law and order. mr trump has also defended the teenage gunman who's been charged with killing two people and injuring another during protests against the police shooting of a black man, jacob blake, in wisconsin. our north america correspondent, peter bowes reports. nine weeks to polling day and americans are facing a stark choice. with violence and civil unrest on the streets of several cities, including outside the white house, law and order is emerging as the issue that could decide this bitterly fought election. portland has been the epicentre of black lives matter process ever since the police killing of george floyd. at the weekend, supporters of president trump headed into the city in a huge convoy of vehicles. sporadic fighting broke out between the two groups and a white man was shot and killed. he was a supporter of a right—wing group. president trump blamed
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the democrats for what he called left—wing political violence. the wave of violence and destruction that we've seen in recent weeks and months has occurred in cities exclusively controlled and dominated by the biden, joe biden party. it is a familiar theme from the president, now focused more than ever on framing joe biden as the leader of a party that would bring anarchy to the streets. in america we will never surrender to mob rule because if the mob rules democracy is indeed dead. the reason we are continuing to see violence in left—wing cities today is that liberal politicians, mayors, prosecutors, and judges are refusing to enforce the law and put the rioters in jail. earlier, the former vice president said the policies of donald trump were to blame. he can't stop the violence, because for years he has fomented it. you know, he may believe that mouthing the words "law
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and order" makes him strong, but his failure to call on his own supporters to stop acting as an armed militia in this country shows how weak he is. does anyone believe there'll be less violence in america if donald trump is re—elected? mr biden also lashed out at the way he says mr trump spread lies about him and he spelt out his own view of law and order. i want to make it absolutely clear, so i'm going to be very clear about all of this, rioting is not protesting, looting is not protesting, setting fires is not protesting. none of this is protesting. it's lawlessness, plain and simple. a week after violent protests followed the police shooting ofjacob blake in wisconsin, president trump is travelling to the city of kenosha to see himself the damage caused to property and meet law enforcement personnel. he'll not speak into the family of mr blake because they asked for a lawyer to be involved
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and mrtrump said that was inappropriate. the white house said it will be a unifying visit. peter bowes, bbc news, los angeles. the head of british airways' parent company, willie walsh, has warned of "chaos and hardship" for travellers if portugal is put back on the uk's quarantine list. the country was removed from the list only ten days ago, prompting a surge in bookings for flights and holidays. since then, the rate of infection in the country has increased. let's return to schools as students across england prepare to return to the classroom. our education correspondent elaine dunkley is at one school in birmingham to see how they're preparing. how are they getting on? hello, welcome to birmingham and it is back to school but mainly for teachers in england and wales, as they are busy preparing for all the year groups to come back. as you wander around the school, you see signs reminding stu d e nts to school, you see signs reminding students to stay two metres apart. on thursday, more than 500 children
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will be coming back to school, eve ryo ne will be coming back to school, everyone will have their temperature checked before walking in. this head teacher has been doing a huge amount of preparation, how are you feeling about having the children back? we are absolutely thrilled, absolutely delighted. this is what we're here for. thursday will be a special day. it will be different from what we are used to, it certainly will be, with students arriving at staggered times, and entrances, and also having to sanitise and wash their hands and put ppe away. but in our trial runs with year ten and year seven, it has been flawless, the students have been very respectful and they know what is right and wrong. what is the big things has been convincing parents that it is safe for them to come back into the classroom, i have been speaking to some families. we went from the biggest people into the school to the littlest. i have been fairly nervous, knowing that i'm going to go to high school. it's a bit
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strange knowing not have to wear a face mask to school but it will be safer. i'm kind of scared on catching up because i forgot a lot of things from primary and i need to catch up a lot. everyone else will be in the same position. yeah. what have you been doing, mr williams, to reassure parents that it is time for the children to come back? the biggest thing that we have done that has been helpful is being in constant munication. we had our own app and website and alert have been going out all the time. it has been going out all the time. it has been updating them and they have been updating them and they have been able to contribute. we have had open questionnaires where parents have said what some of their fears are, so have said what some of their fears are, so we are have said what some of their fears are, so we are able to respond to their needs, what their concerned about and do something about it. for example, in terms of cross contamination, all students will be in bubbles, class and the group bubbles, and that will range from eight students up to 25. breaks and lunches will be staggered and
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students will go into designated areas and they will not mix between the year groups. a lot of work has gone on, but it's been successful and we think it's going to work. there are going to be a lot of children back in a school for the first time since march. how concerned are you about the contingency plans if one of those children becomes unwell? we have very strict plans for either a suspected case or a confirmed case. we will be involving public health england at every stage of the process. our contingency plans are very robust, we have a full package of virtual learning meaning live lessons by teachers, we have other resources that have been sent home to them. it would be saddening, but it would not be a disaster. we have lots in the artillery to cope with that. we are so used to having corridors full of children, children interacting, moving around the school, learning and playing
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together. how different all things feel for those starting in the autumn? it will be different but they understand, they have just had six months of a very stressful and challenging times. and they appreciate their own health and the health of others. i think they will understand the things we are doing and the reason they are doing it. if you explain things to young people and they understand and rationalise it themselves, they cope much better. it will be different but it will be necessary and it will be a nexus si will be necessary and it will be a nexus s! of the big things children say to me is, i have really missed my friends. they have missed a lot of school as well. some children are three months behind in their learning, suggests a survey today, are you confident that you can catch the children up? we are, i have the right team full of energy and commitment to do that. we are buying into learning platforms, but also, we hold extended to school between
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3pm and for pm, classes on saturday and during the holiday so we are absolutely 100% determined that we will close those gaps. you have a very big and busy day today, i know you have just been very big and busy day today, i know you havejust been briefing very big and busy day today, i know you have just been briefing teachers downstairs, and it will be unfamiliarfor students downstairs, and it will be unfamiliar for students coming back, but this is the first time they will be coming back and lie. to feel a little bit more normal like it did before lockdown. thank you. employers who are making use of the government's coronavirus furlough scheme will have to contribute to the cost from today. since march, the government has paid 80% of workers' wages. that's now going down to 70%. business groups say it makes redundancies more likely. our business correspondent katy austin reports. the music festivals this business normally provide sound systems for haven't happened this year, so 170 staff have been furloughed. but the looming end of the job retention scheme has meant tough decisions. the fact that our costs would be ramping up in relation to the furlough scheme as of september the 1st,
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that was when we decided we needed to go through our initial round of redundancies. so we entered a consultation period injuly, we spoke to everybody in the company. we wanted to make sure that we were preparing ourselves for the worst. more than 9.5 million jobs have been furloughed under the government scheme. from today, the state will pay 70% of affected employees' wages, while the employer must pay 10% plus national insurance and pension contributions. in october, the final month, it will be 60% from government and 20% paid by firms. one business group said that would be a struggle for some industries in particular. i9% of small employers say they are likely to reduce headcount in the next three months, and that is connected to the fact that people are now thinking about the future. are these jobs there fore people to come to return to?
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so we expect there will inevitably be an increase in unemployment, looking at sectors like wholesale and retail, manufacturing and construction and arts and entertainment. a £1000 bonus is being offered where firms keep on staff who had been furloughed until the end of january, but the british chambers of commerce warns financial pressures on businesses meant unemployment was likely to surge unless the cost of employing people was cut. a treasury spokesperson said supporting so many people's incomes can't be sustained indefinitely, but that the government would continue to support and create jobs. katy austin, bbc news. let's talk to jane pendlebury from the hospitality professionals association. good morning. how is this change in furlough cost going to affect the hospitality industry? it'sjust another bump in the road of recovery. there is no money in the bank accounts of many hospitality businesses, they have had so little income, and the income they have had
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recently has had to go straight out to the suppliers of the stuff they have needed it to continue to run. so it's a really tough, tough time for anybody in the hospitality industry. and just paying that little bit extra could be enough to send a lot of them over the edge. so what would you be calling for? an extension to furlough would be absolutely fantastic... 8096 of wages paid by the government until when?” think until we know that we can continue without any social distancing, until we are on the road properly to recovery. that could be a year or longer. it could be but we wa nt a year or longer. it could be but we want our hospitality industry in the uk, we need it, we need the international business it attracts, we need to grow the economy, hospitality business is needed for that to happen. the industry provides a lot ofjobs and employs a lot of people, and sets a lot of young people up in their careers for
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the first time. it's something we cannot allow to disappear.m doesn't sound like the government are going to do that. from today, it reduces to 70%, from october, 60%, and it ends at the end of october. so what will happen to the hospitality sector if furlough isn't extended, in your view? hospitality sector if furlough isn't extended, in your view?” hospitality sector if furlough isn't extended, in your view? i think the government have a very good appreciation of how important hospitality is and how hard it has been hit. but without any further support, there will be masses of redundancies, there will be businesses closing. there are already lots of businesses which have already closed, they won't even to carry —— they weren't able to carry on even with the furlough support and the other schemes. it will mean the closure of restau ra nts, will mean the closure of restaurants, bars, clubs, hotels, the industry will not sustain further social distancing, further restrictions and no support from the
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government. the counter argument is, the government cannot sustain those wages when, for example, the uk government deficit this year, it's overdraft, if you like, could top 300 billion at some point. overdraft, if you like, could top 300 billion at some pointlj overdraft, if you like, could top 300 billion at some point. i do understand that and the hospitality industry understands that, but those people are not necessarily going to be able to get otherjobs. maybe it is just be able to get otherjobs. maybe it isjust a be able to get otherjobs. maybe it is just a funding from one not to pay another. keeping the industry alive will keep the uk economy alive as well. thank you for talking to us. carol kirkwood has the weather. hello again. many of us enjoyed some sunshine first thing this morning but under those clear skies, it was a cold start. through today, rather like yesterday, the cloud will continue to build and spread out, but nonetheless there will still be some sunny skies. we will also have a weather front coming from the west is drifting eastwards, clearing northern ireland, so a sunny
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afternoon for you. as it bumps into the high pressure dominating our weather, it will weaken so the rain across scotland will increasingly turn a light and patchy. this evening a few showers in the west, some clear skies but a lot of cloud, not as cold night is the one just gone. then the next system coming in from the atlantic. that will be moving west to east through tomorrow, bright colours indicating heavy bursts. the far north—east of scotla nd heavy bursts. the far north—east of scotland will not see it until after dark. a noticeable breeze tomorrow, gusty winds in the north west. 15 in the north to 20 in the south.
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hello, this is bbc news with victoria derbyshire. the headlines... back to school for pupils in england and wales — but a warning that some children are months behind in their learning. ministers say it's vital students return to the classroom. schools are open, they are ready for those young people, they have put in place all the measures that i've been talking about to keep people safe, but it is important for both their educational prospects and their mental health that young people are back in school over the course of this week. manchester united footballer marcus rashford campaigns to try to end child food poverty in the uk. president trump defends one of his supporters who's charged with murdering two people during protests against the police shooting of a black man. changes to the government's furlough scheme come into effect, with employers having to contribute to the cost from today. and coming up this hour: as mps return to westminster, we hear from two members of parliament about the challenges ahead.
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despite many lockdown restrictions on the hospitality sector being relaxed, nightclubs remain closed. some believe that's led to a rise in illegal raves. shamaan freeman—powell has this — her report contains flashing images. it has been a familiar scene across the country over the long weekend. despite fines of £10,000 for organisers and fines of £1,000 for those attending, many are prepared to take the risk. —— and £100 for those attending. rob starr now owns a chain of pubs but he says that the rave culture is more than just dancing. we need to meet people, dance, touch each other, hug and i think the festivals, clubs, they epitomise all of those behaviours.
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it is a very social environment. when you take that away, yeah, i can see that really impacting on people's mental health, especially if they do not have something to replace that. according to the mental health charity, mind, 18—24 year—olds were most affected by the pandemic. with three quarters saying it got worse during lockdown. while 9% of adults said boredom had an impact on their welfare, this figure jumps to 83% for those under 25. lottie says she missed going out over lockdown. to start with, it was really lonely, because we were in lockdown and we could not leave the house at all, and i was stuck in here. but as things are gradually opening, i'm starting to feel a little better, as i can start going to places again but i do worry about how many people are going to be there and if it is actually safe to be around all those people at once.
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these concerns are also shared by the police. they were out in manchester this weekend, reminding licensed venues of their responsibilities. these established venues are easy to regulate. it is the private gatherings that are harder to police. we have had a few, unfortunate incidents in relation to some airbnb properties, where they've been rented out by individuals, and essentially held parties, big house parties. they are really resource—intensive to deal with and quite difficult, and actually really dangerous in terms of the health and safety point of view, for the individuals but also for the officers going in, obviously a lot of people in a small space, with coronavirus, isn't the best. in response to a surge of illegal gatherings, airbnb banned house parties worldwide, limiting guest numbers to 16. before lockdown, thousands of people would have packed out of this room but social distancing rules make traditional club
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nights here impossible. that gap in the market is being filled by private and unlicensed events which, unlike nightclubs, do not always prioritise the safety and security of their customers. many of the public, the youth of today who are socially starved, who have not had the ability to go out and socialise, we are going to see a massive growth in unlicensed events. and comparative to a regulated, safe professional space, which is delivered by our industry, the events sectors festivals, nightclubs and live music, so the government needs to look at trying to balance this by considering the safer option to reopen so that people can still engage in social experience but they can do it safely. another rave, we believe, took place over the weekend, this time in north london. across the country,
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in the areas seeing the highest rises in cases, people in their 20s are now the most affected, but as some young people continue to risk their physical health to maintain their mental well—being, those in the trade say the government must act now to avoid the rise of the illegal raves and, in turn, the collapse of the industry. shamaan freeman—powell, bbc news. let's talk now to nightclub owner peter marks, and music promoter kodi starr. hello, both, thank you for talking to us. peter marks, do you think nig htclu bs to us. peter marks, do you think nightclubs could reopen safely now? i think that, having worked with some scientists, we have a way we can come back with a number of protocols to try to reduce risk. as you know, we're now in the managing risk situation with covid—19 and our view is that it is crazy that pubs can open we can't, there are not that many differences. there are slight differences, they are busy on
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the dance floor and social distancing is different, we are not talking about relaxing social distancing rules, but back injuly the prime minister said that by november there will be no social distancing. we all seem to have forgotten he said that, but i have not. my belief is that we have a way back, it will be limited and perhaps capacity and people's normal movements, but we should be able to do something and it will certainly be safer than illegal rates and house parties. kodi starr, do you think they can reopen safely orgy you have to wait until social distancing is a thing of the past? —— or do you have to wait?|j completely agree. there is a certain way you can party, you can be social distanced, we have both seating, vip areas which are different from the dance floor. you want everybody on the dance floor that you can still
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have people in booth seats, gathered in theirown have people in booth seats, gathered in their own little groups of people, it is way safer than having an illegal rave. we feel like we are being neglected, the post—lockdown rules were not clear enough to stop any of these mass gatherings, they we re any of these mass gatherings, they were not clear enough to stop the gatherings on the beaches, in the parks, i feel like that is what gave rise to the illegal rates. when they're at the parks, with a friend, they're at the parks, with a friend, they play music, other people come along and it becomes a so—called illegal rave. the rules were not clear enough illegal rave. the rules were not clearenough in illegal rave. the rules were not clear enough in the first place and it is better to have somebody who can manage the situation in the nightclubs than have people out there just doing whatever they feel like. how would it work on a dance floor, peter? it is happening in europe, although italy have recently close nig htclu bs europe, although italy have recently close nightclubs i think that has been based on no evidence. there is
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no evidence this is spread in pubs or clubs, it is just about protecting tourism. make sure you only have one entrance to the dance floor, you have a dolmen near that entrance he would only allow so many people on, you just keep an eye, we are used to dealing with crowds, security would have to key people apart as best you can. nightclubs in many countries in europe are open and coping, as long as we have a lot of space above the dance floor it is u nsafe of space above the dance floor it is unsafe is pretty much anywhere indoors. we all accept that indoors is not as safe as outdoors, of course. kodi, can people working in your sector see any light at the end of the channel at the moment?‘ your sector see any light at the end of the channel at the moment? a lot of the channel at the moment? a lot of them can't, because when you look at it in terms of work and jobs, it is not young people that are
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working, young people are partying, great, but it is not young people that are working, that other djs or the club owners. when it comes to work, lots of people have lost their jobs, i have had owners of clubs that i know personally come out of lockdown, see the new rules and they have reconstructed the whole venue to accommodate for this, only to end up to accommodate for this, only to end up knowing that we will not open, we still have to keep closed and get rid of some more staff, it is looking really bad. when it comes to artists, there are no bookings, djs, there are not a lot of bookings. the economy of our scene is going down. i don't think there is much lighter at the end of the channel 4 people on my side of the fence. peter, why do we need nightclubs? why is it an important part of our lives?
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cancelled started in a roundabout 1920, people have been going to dance as part of the cultural enjoyment for over 100 years. we are just a modern version of that. we often say that the nightclubs as anchor tenants of the night—time economy, which is hugely important to the economy, it is worth £66 billion each year, that is anything open from 6pm until 6am. that is important. in some of the smaller towns of the uk, whether clubs have closed, the pubs have, then the closed, the pubs have, then the closed shops do not open because people are not going out as often, the nail bars, the hairdressers —— that the clothing shops do not open. people choose to live places with that spread of things to do. it is a key thing. when you get to 30 you probably don't want to go clubbing
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like you used to, but young people love it, they can let their hair down, it is like a festival that indoors. kodi, the government says of course we will open nightclubs when it is safe to do so. what is your message to them? it is not only the younger socialise. human beings are social beings, we will try to socialise regardless — — are social beings, we will try to socialise regardless —— it is not only the young that socialise. you had to find a way to work with the pandemic and get everybody else. this is the reason why we have had a right at mental health issues during lockdown, everyone was locked in their homes, could not go anywhere, as soon as the gates were open, there was nowhere to go. no university, no college, we were not on lockdown so everybody started giving their own thing. the government has to also look into the social side, there are people working, people whose livelihoods
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have just gone and you are looking at it asjust have just gone and you are looking at it as just young people socialising, it is notjust young people, older people are working in the industry and living off it. look at the paperwork and the numbers, you need somewhere for people to socialise safely. thank you both very much, kodi starr and peter marks. mps return to parliament today after the summer recess. let's talk to two of them. conservative mp for sleaford and north hykeham, carolinejohnson. she'as also a vice chair of the conservative party and a member of the education select committee. also debbie abrahams, labour mp for oldham east and saddleworth. as you know, oldham council council say infection rates of coronavirus remain high. caroline, i don't know if you caught much of our last couple of interviews the people in the nightclub sector are really struggling in terms ofjobs, mental
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health, not particularly getting government support because they can outside the furlough scheme. what would you say to them? lots of people have sent this pandemic very difficult, but the government has had to focus initially on saving lives and protecting the nhs and then on reopening the economy in a way that allows our most crucial services to open first, getting schools opened this week, for example, and in a way that protects. the government has put in an unprecedented package. what is the difference between pubs and nightclubs? we take the scientists' advice on what venues are more or less likely to transmit coronavirus. i would suggest that in pubs people are being required to set up chairs rather than standard bulbs, people are being constrained in small group
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settings, keeping close only to those people who they had come to socialise with small groups —— people had come to sit at chairs. up to six people from different households. at nightclubs people will be mingling much more freely and dancing. we have to be guided by the science while protecting businesses as best we can with an unprecedented package of support for businesses of all different types. charles walker has said the government's u—turns are unsustainable, have created a climate of uncertainty and it is increasingly difficult for tory mps to decide government policy. he is a conservative. is he right? i don't think so. i think throughout the coronavirus pandemic we had seen an evolving pandemic and evolving knowledge of what is a completely new virus and completely new conditions. we have learnt a lot about what the coronavirus, in terms
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of how to treat edge, who it affects most severely and how it spreads since easter. we have gradually evolved the advice and i think that is what you would expect the government to do. around four in ten schools in england and wales go back today, you are remember of the education select committee, should a—levels and gcses be pushed back a month next year —— you are a member of? we need to look carefully at gcses and a—levels. the department for education is doing the same. the government is committed to making sure no student is left behind, they have pledged 1 billion p, 630 million of that will go to general catch—up for all students, because we recognise that to some extent they will not happen as much work if they will not happen as much work if they had been in school, then there are 350 million for students who
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have particular needs, disadvantaged stu d e nts have particular needs, disadvantaged students or other groups which had teachers feel are in particular need extra help, they will be getting free tuition from this, one—to—one tuition to ensure that every single child gets the chance to reach their full potential in time for the exams, whether they are innate, june orjuly next year. exams, whether they are innate, june orjuly next year. what is your view on pushing them back?|j orjuly next year. what is your view on pushing them back? i would push them back as far as they reasonably could, bearing in mind they need to be marked in time for students to get to university. i will bring in our labourmp soon, get to university. i will bring in our labour mp soon, but i want to ask about the conservative mp accused of rape, it is reported he will not return to the commons but will not return to the commons but will continue to work from home. he has not been suspended by the conservative party. what do you think of that? this is a matter for to investigate, not for me all the
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media. but what you think about the fa ct media. but what you think about the fact he has not been suspended by the tory party? he has not been charged with any crime at this moment, so the decision has been made he should not be suspended, because theresa spence it would identify him at a point where he has not been charged with any crime —— because to suspend him with identify him. the alleged victim is calling on mps to name the man using parliamentary privilege for the safety of his constituents. will you name him? no, iwon't. if this gentleman is working from home, i don't see his constituents as being at risk. for details of the case and the allegation will be known by the police and the chief whip and those making this decision, but not by me. ifa making this decision, but not by me. if a gentleman is working from home, he is not posing a risk to members
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of the public and i am sure any risk will have been carefully managed both by the police and the chief whip when he has made those decisions. but the eating constituents have a right to know if theirmp is constituents have a right to know if their mp is being investigated by their mp is being investigated by the police over rape allegations —— but do you think constituents have a right to know? in my other work, i work as a consultant to nutrition, a tragic case occurred within our region and the individual was suspended, but until charged, people we re suspended, but until charged, people were not aware why. and i asking you, do you think constituents have a right to know if their mp is being investigated by police in rape allegations? if their mp is charged, yes. at the point at which an accusation has been made by one individual and the chiefs police are investigating, at that stage it is
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perfectly reasonable, providing there are measures to protect the public, to keep a private until such time as an individual is charged. each instance requires a different level of proof. debbie abrahams, on this particular issue, using constituents have a right to know if theirmp is constituents have a right to know if their mp is being investigated by their mp is being investigated by the police over rape claims?” their mp is being investigated by the police over rape claims? i think this is very difficult, victoria. we have a judicial system which you are innocent until proven guilty. i would just urge the police to make sure that if they are going to charge this man, that he is charged as quickly as possible for everybody's point of these. are you co mforta ble everybody's point of these. are you comfortable with this mp meeting constituents in the meantime? no. this is essential tenant of our
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criminal justice this is essential tenant of our criminaljustice system, this is essential tenant of our criminal justice system, you this is essential tenant of our criminaljustice system, you are innocent until proven guilty. it needs to be resolved, unfortunately many of these cases can go on for months and this is the real difficulty, before any charges made, andl difficulty, before any charges made, and i would just urge the police and cps to do as much as they can, as quickly as they can, to decide whether they will charge him. will you use parliamentary privilege to name him in parliament?” you use parliamentary privilege to name him in parliament? i don't know who it is so i am not in that position. if you didn't know, would you? i stand by what ijust said, victoria. so you would not name him. in your constituency, oldham, you have a high level of coronavirus infection. what should be being done, which is not, to bring those infections down? i am really concerned, i know caroline has been
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saying how well the government has done, i think we have saying how well the government has done, ithink we have made saying how well the government has done, i think we have made so many mistakes, including lifting the lockdown too soon, we were too late in the initial lockdown and we listed it too soon before we had a fully operational test and isolate syste m fully operational test and isolate system under way. it is still not perfect by any means, we are getting more data and i heard your earlier piece is still confusion amongst mixed messages and that is what is happening. we are going door to jewel to make sure people are aware of the local messaging. there is a really worrying stuff going around on social media which, again, is cantering some of the legitimate messages we are trying to get across. one horrific thing was saying that children that tested positive could be taken away from their parents. this is the sort of
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stuff going around, so people are very anxious about things and we need to get clear, decisive messaging. other particular groups behind those messages? are they, broadly speaking, anti—vaxxers, or what? we had a member of dido harding's team mothers as were knocking on doors, but they had not seen it either. this is a very worrying thing that social media, you are asking some of the issues we would like to raise, social media and the rumours and misinformation being spread is something i would like to see the does to a lot more about. —— see the government do a lot more about. what do you mean by a lot more? we had the lettuce and
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inquiry, the government implemented that and they failed to implement the second part, which was to bring social media in line with mainstream media —— we had the leveson inquiry. they have had ample time to get their house in order and have failed miserably. this stuff is so divisive, so that would be one of my priorities. can i ask caroline johnson about that, as a member of the governing party, in terms of the message that debbie abrahams has seen on social media, that is really alarming and completely untrue. but intent about being allowed to proliferate on social media, where is the government with bringing the social media companies more into line? it is clearly an horrific rumour, manifestly untrue, the mainstream media will notably making
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sure everyone is aware that that rumour is completely untrue. i have not seen myself such a rumour on social media or anywhere else, it is the first i have heard of it. but can any more be done in terms of legislation on social media companies? i think the government has looked at whether or not... whether people should be considered publishers online in the same way as if they are publishing a book or a magazine or a newspaper. there are challenges to that, there are so many different people putting so much volume up at any one time, how can you possibly look at it all? the social media companies are working with the government to try to see how these things can be achieved. debbie abrahams? it is not quick enough, we had a commitment in the
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second part of leveson to do that. victoria, i don't want you to move on before i have had the opportunity to say our other priority in the budget must be to address the real issue around endemic inequalities existing in society. we have had the report today about showing children in the most deprived areas are falling further behind, 46% worse in terms of estimated attainment, this cannot be allowed to carry on. we know about these inequalities for many years. you know the government are specifically putting £1 billion for primaries and secondaries to help kids catch up. but they are not putting anything into address child poverty. if you are looking at key attainment drivers you need to
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really address that. kids go to school hungry, that is a real issue. there is so much evidence showing how child poverty affects their life chances and educational attainment, we are talking about everybody fulfilling their opportunities to address the root causes which this pandemic has laid back, the real structural inequalities across the country that have meant that more people in poverty are likely to die become infected with covid, this cannot be allowed to happen.” become infected with covid, this cannot be allowed to happen. i am being told i had to go to the weather, obviously i would have come back to you for your right of reply otherwise, caroline. iapologise, but thank you for your time, debbie abrahams from labour and caroline johnson of the conservative party. carol kirkwood has the weather. hello again. under clear skies, it's been a chilly start to the day,
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but temperatures responding quite nicely, and for many of us it will be a little bit milder than it was yesterday. now, high—pressure's still in charge of our weather but we do have a weather front which has been progressing in from the west very slowly, moving eastwards, and as it bumps into that high—pressure it's continuing to weaken. so after a lot of sunshine first thing, we'll see the cloud build like it did yesterday and then spread out. so there'll be more cloud around this afternoon compared to this morning, but nonetheless there'll still be some brighter skies. brightening up in northern ireland behind the weather front. here is the front here, with the rain increasingly turning light and patchy. through this evening and overnight, there will still be areas of cloud, there will be some clear skies as well and there will still be a few showers dotted around western areas. then we see the arrival of the next clutch of fronts coming our way from the west. it's not going to be as cold a start to the day tomorrow as it was this morning. so here's the clutch of fronts connected to this area of low pressure. you've got all the isobars squeezed together, that's telling you it's going to be a windier day tomorrow,
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particularly so with exposure in the north west where we have gusts 40 to 45 mph. we can also see the progress the rain is making. now, when you see greens and yellows in the charts, that's telling that's telling you there'll be some heavy bursts. not quite making it into the far north—east of scotland or the south—eastern corner of england until later on in the evening. so as we move from wednesday into thursday, that first weather front bringing that rain moves through, and then we've got this second cold front sinking southwards, the isobars again telling you we've got some brisk winds on the way during the course of thursday. so there's the first front, here's the second one, sinking south, taking its cloud and patchy rain with it. behind it, sunshine and showers, the white circles indicate sustained wind speeds, so the gusts will be higher than this, particularly once again in the north west and particularly with exposure. but temperatures up, we've got 22s and 23s on the charts. that's not going to last. on friday our weather front will be in the south, looks like it might bring some rain,
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