good morning. welcome to breakfast with naga munchetty and jon kay. our headlines today: people in some areas are having to travel more than 100 miles for coronavirus tests. the government says it's spending more to speed things up. a 14—day quarantine awaits passengers travelling from greece to scotland from this morning. .iamin . i am in liverpool where these passengers are off . i am in liverpool where these passengers are off to portugal and greece. will they have to isolate upon return? the boss of heathrow airport says passengers are playing quarantine roulette. i will have the

latest. russia faces international demands for an explanation, after germany said it had proof that one of president putin's leading critics, alexei navalny, has been poisoned with the nerve agent, novichok. newjoy for the parents of charlie gard — three years after their first son died during a legal battle over medical treatment. charlie definitely did have a massive part to play in making sure he was healthy and making us happy because after we lost charlie it felt like a part of a died with him. the talks have begun. barcelona say they won't let him go, but could lionel messi be on his way to the premier league? good morning. we have a band of cloud and rain sinking south across england and wales at the moment. is that moves into the south, behind it will have sunshine and showers but a blustery day. all the details in 30 minutes. it's thursday the third of september. our top story.

the rising demand for coronavirus tests in some areas has led to appointments being rationed, and some people are being sent more than 100 miles from home to get a swab. the government says areas with fewer cases have had their capacity reduced in order to cope with outbreaks elsewhere. we're joined now by our political correspondent, iain watson. morning, iain. what more can you tell us about this? where can people be tested and where will they be test —— struggling to get tested ? will they be test —— struggling to get tested? this is in the areas where perhaps there is not as much prevalence of the virus any longer where people are having trouble. these are for the drive—through tests, home testing kits are still available. for example we have seen people in london where the virus peaked early have been directed towards testing centres as far away as cardiff or the isle of wight. we see people in devon being directed towards testing centres in wales,

those in cumbria being told to head to scotland. the reason for that is that the department of hills says they are concentrating on the areas that the most and prioritising those risk of serious infection. they are also investing £500 million and trying to improve the rapidity of the test. the number of test is likely to rise in terms of capacity but in southhampton they are trailing quicker tests where the results can come in 20 minutes. the other thing they will be doing is in sa lfo rd , other thing they will be doing is in salford, where you are, they will be trying to test the population far more regularly, even if they have no symptoms. perhaps on a weekly basis. this is something that the former hills secretary and prime minister have been advocating for for some time. they say if you test before you have symptoms you get a better idea of the spread of the disease and you get on top of the disease, hopefully to stem off the prospect

ofa hopefully to stem off the prospect of a second wave. thank you very much for that. from today, people in scotland will have different travel quarantine rules from the rest of the uk. scottish holidaymakers returning from greece will now have to self—isolate for 14 days after new measures came in this morning. louisa pilbeam has more. this fun in the sun in greece now comes with 14 days quarantine if you area comes with 14 days quarantine if you are a scottish resident. from 4am this morning, all scottish people returning home from anywhere in greece must self isolate for two weeks, unlike holidaymakers from the rest of the uk. we have got to get to heathrow and then flight from heathrow to glasgow but we can walk about different airports and when we get to glasgow we are put into quarantine for two weeks. those risks led to the welsh government

introducing quarantine for those returning from a popular tourist island but england and northern ireland currently have no quarantine for greece. with cases rising in portugal, that is the next destination of concern. james williams is on holiday with this family in the algarve and they were meant to return on sunday. he spent nearly £400 on flights home tomorrow in case quarantine comes in. nearly £400 on flights home tomorrow in case quarantine comes inli nearly £400 on flights home tomorrow in case quarantine comes in. i would like to go home so that i can go back to work on monday and my daughter goes back to school on monday and while obviously she could quarantine, i don't want her to quarantine, i don't want her to mist quarantine, i don't want her to mist mist any quarantine, i don't want her to mist any more of her education. the government's benchmark for quarantine is when cases reach 20 and 100,000. portugal has exceeded that andy uk wide update is due out later today. —— and a uk wide update. russia has denied that the country's opposition leader, alexei navalny, was attacked with a nerve

agent last month. it's after german authorities said there was "unequivocal proof" the politician had been poisoned by novichok. yesterday chancellor angela merkel said mr navalny was a victim of attempted murder and the world would look to russia for answers. we're joined now by our berlin correspondentjenny hill. what could we expect to see now? there were strong words from angela merkel yesterday and i suppose the question really is, what next? and thatis question really is, what next? and that is a difficult question to a nswer that is a difficult question to answer because this puts germany in answer because this puts germany in a bind. mist navalny came to berlin because an ngo taste here brought him here for treatment so this presence on german soil is somewhat accidental and the attack happened in russia to many as a country with strong trade and economic ties with russia and angela merkel has often been seen as the western link to vladimir putin who seems to have a grudging respect for her. she of

course famously grew up behind the iron curtain and speak some russian. she has not been shy of condemning vladimir putin's actions in the past, she is always at the forefront of keeping extended sanctions against russia over its actions in the crimea and ukraine. but she is usually able to keep channels of communication open and one of the things we are seeing this morning is her coming under pressure to perhaps put a project cold nord stream two on ice. this is a gas pipeline that would infect double the amount of russian gas coming into europe and it comes into europe via germany. it is already a controversial project because tensions with russia been ratcheting up over the few years for different reasons. that is one thing that germany could do alone and we will have to wait and see whether angela merkel will go ahead and try and put the project on ice. it would cost some european countries

including german —— companies including german —— companies including german —— companies including german ones economically. it is not at the top of the list of favourite things to do but it is an option. what we have seen so far is an attempt to raise a co—ordinated response from allies and partners within the eu and nato full yesterday, when she said that there are serious questions to answer and only the russian government can and must answer them, she went on to say that once those answers have come from russia, or perhaps in the absence, she would think that co—ordinated response. you know she is already talking to partner countries within both those organisations. it is probably worth pointing out in the meantime that we have had a condition of aid from the hospital where mist navalny is being treated and doctors say yesterday said he is still in intensive care and ona said he is still in intensive care and on a ventilator and this condition is still serious although it is not a life—threatening condition. they said he is continuing to make some progress but what they can't see at this stage is a bit? 0ver what they can't see at this stage is a bit? over this future hills because they do not expect him to

die, they say he is not in a life—threatening condition they can't say for sure whether or not he will suffer long—term ill effect from the poison. thank you for that update. president trump has come under fire for encouraging people to vote twice in the upcoming election — something that is illegal in the us. the president made the suggestion during a visit to north carolina — where thousands of people are expected to vote by postal ballot in november. mr trump has been a vocal critic of postal voting, claiming it can lead to ‘tremendous fraud'. dwayne ‘the rock‘ johnson — usually seen jumping out of burning buildings in one of his action films — has revealed on instagram that he and his family have been recovering from coronavirus. the actor said the positive test results were a ‘kick in the gut‘, but has offered his social media followers some of his tips on staying safe. this has been one of the most challenging and difficult things we

have ever had to endure as a family and for me personally as well. be disciplined, be disciplined when it comes to people coming over to your house, get them tested. you never know. be extra cautious. do not let your guard down. boost your immunity with antioxidants of vitamin c, things of that nature. eat your vegetables. five a day. if he tells you something has been a kick in the guts and it that him you know that it is serious, don't you? and if the rock tells you to do something, you do it. maybe. some of the uk's biggest aviation bosses, including the heads of tui and heathrow, have told the bbc they're frustrated with the government's handling of travel quarantines. they fear more industryjobs will be lost and say testing should have been brought in at airports to help save holidays and consumer confidence. 0ur transport correspondent tom burridge reports.

it has been unbelievably challenging, demanding beyond your wildest dreams. today, a message from some of the biggest names in uk aviation. if the government doesn't open up travel abroad significantly soon, the economic fallout will be even worse. i fear that if we don't act now, morejobs will be lost. 500,000 people in the uk rely on travel and tourism, so action and leadership by the uk government and industry which has always been at the forefront is essential. we will lose more destinations. with the travel quarantine tightening again, the man running glasgow, aberdeen and southampton airports says the sector faces ruin. quite frankly, i think at this moment in time, the uk government is overseeing the demise of the aviation industry in the uk. we are seeing more job losses than we did in the demise of the coal industry in the ‘80s. that surely cannot be an accolade

that any government would like to have. it is really quiet at heathrow right now, but aviation bosses say the government could change that by bringing in testing for covid at airports. but the facility already built at heathrow isn't being used because it doesn't have the government's backing. a passenger arriving into the uk will have booked a test online, they would then provide a saliva swab test to a trained nurse. they should get the results of that test within 24 hours and they would be given a kit so they could do a second test at home in several days. two negative results would cut your quarantine period short. for months, ministers have been considering the idea. the industry wants action now. it is something that is working for over 30 other countries around the world. this is the way the international standards are going. the uk government needs to get behind testing as an alternative to quarantine to save millions ofjobs

in this country. this german—owned travel company has received massive loans from the german government to get it through the winter. its uk boss says support for the aviation sector here hasn't been on the same scale. uk isn't taking the long—term view of the economic value that the aviation industry and the leisure industry in its wider sense brings to the economy, so therefore, i think they are betting on the fact that large operators will survive. however weakened they may become. the government says it has provided unprecedented support to the aviation industry, paying the wages of staff in the sector for four months and providing loans to the likes of easyjet. it says the quarantine is under constant review. these aviation bosses are frustrated that there hasn't been more action from the government to ensure that foreign travel does pick up soon. it's another week of

quarantine questions for both businesses and travellers. nina is at liverpool airport this morning, as holidaymakers head to greece not knowing if they will have to self—isolate when they return to england. but it is a different story in other parts of the uk. nina, what are people saying as they head off to the sun? good morning. you may not believe it now but it was easy in the queue a little earlier. you ask what people are saying, they are really excited about their holiday believe it or not, that early morning getting on a plane buzz about them. but with the caveat that they may have to come home and isolate. flights this morning are largely —— largely going to the greek islands and parts of portugal. there are four leaving this morning to those destinations but people don't know what will happen when they come home. as a reminder of how

this unfolded, in june they come home. as a reminder of how this unfolded, injune we were told that if you travel anywhere for any reason other than those which are essential you would have to isolate for 14 days when you come home. remember in july those for 14 days when you come home. remember injuly those exemptions, the travel corridors were introduced which meant you could travel fully insured with foreign commonwealth office allowance but then that has gradually been changing, hasn't it? greece, if you are travelling back to scotland from there you will have to scotland from there you will have to self isolate. not the same for england confusing for passengers who are pacing that make facing the prospect of lying on a sound low to dashmac‘s allowed by the pool and then finding out you can't go to work on monday. i work from home anyway. so if it does change and should be ok to work. not really worried, to be honest. we are italian. it doesn't really matter to us. feel sorry for the people who can't. hopefully we will make it if they do bring the quarantine out. it would be horrendous. i would quarantine out. it would be

horrendous. iwould need quarantine out. it would be horrendous. i would need to get back home quick enough though. they start a newjob wednesday. that'll home quick enough though. they start a new job wednesday. that'll be different if you have to quarantine on the other side. they hope it won't happen. if you have to quarantine when you go back to england? what will be will be. that family behind me just england? what will be will be. that family behind mejust going through the yearly hell of trying to get your buggy on the train —— plane. with one double in the queue earlier and they said they were worried about going, but the factors they don't travel they don't have insurance, get a refund. the advice is you can travel at the time —— if you can travel at the time you get on the plane then you get a refund. so people feel compelled to lie even if they have to quarantine on return. have a look over here. this could be a cure for a flight set to go to spain, where the advice is not to travel. staff tell us about one third of those booked on our travelling to spain at the moment and that is because the advice is

not to travel but some flights are going ahead anyway. if you are booked on that flight and the advice has changed, then you have to change that flights to another date with the cost that incurs all lose the money entirely. we spoke to some lads who are hopping on to go earlier and we asked about insurance, and they asked what's that? so some people are willing to ta ke that? so some people are willing to take a chance at the moment, regardless of whether the advice on travel corridors has changed. as ever we would love to get questions from you. we are speaking to a travel expert a little later on. to get in touch with all of your questions. there are so many because the situation keeps changing. john and naga, as you mentioned earlier, it is different for each of the home nations. we will be speaking to matt hancock it later and asking about whether they should be testing at airports, with the applications are for people coming back from greece as well. do get in touch with us in the usual ways. it is 6:17am. let's take a look at today's papers.

a warning of rising taxes to pay for the economic impact of the coronavirus pandemic leads the front page of the financial times. the daily mirror reports that gary lineker is set to house a refugee at his surrey mansion. the paper says the match of the day host has applied to help through charity refugees at home. the guardian leads on german doctors saying that russian opposition politician, alexei navalny, was poisoned by the deadly nerve agent, novichok. mr navalny remains in a coma after falling ill on a flight in siberia last month. and the telegraph leads on the bbc‘s decision to allow rule, britannia and land of hope and glory to be sung at the last night of the proms. the u—turn follows fierce criticism after it was decided to just play instrumental versions of the songs. there will now be members of the bbc singers choir actually performing some of the lyrics. this time of the

morning, probably not the time, but my theme for the insides is milk and biscuits. it is quite comforting. to go with your cup of coffee. biscuits. it is quite comforting. to go with your cup of coffeelj biscuits. it is quite comforting. to go with your cup of coffee. i don't ta ke go with your cup of coffee. i don't take milk in my coffee. i like ‘s story that was picked out. a couple celebrating 50 years of running a milk run together and they have delivered their 10,000,000th piedt. they get up every day at 2am, putting us to shame, and they started the job putting us to shame, and they started thejob in 1970 —— pint. still going. they say a happy and healthy life is down to healthy milk and fresh air. maureen is 83. she does not think she will be finishing any time soon. wonder if they are still out or home yet. well done to them. this is a bit like a milk float of a modern subasic type. this isa20 float of a modern subasic type. this is a 20 mile—per—hour electric motor car. it is small. it has been

developed by citroen. you will be able to drive this in france if you arejust able to drive this in france if you are just 14 years old. there is some talk that in the rest of europe it is 16, in the uk it is a bit older. would you let your 14—year—old kid drive and electric motorcar around the streets of newark couldn't do 30 mph? would the streets of newark couldn't do 30 7 the streets of newark couldn't do 30 mph? would you? no. i don't know what that says about your children or you. i wouldn't pay the insurance. 14 seems very young. i know what i was like as a 17—year—old driver and i'm not sure i was safe then. now? i'm 0k 17—year—old driver and i'm not sure i was safe then. now? i'm ok now. what is your favourite biscuit?m has got to be the garibaldi. is there another? i am a malta cup milk. that is a bit boring. it's got little sultanas, a bit of a kick.

they are not real. this thing, would love to hear from they are not real. this thing, would love to hearfrom people they are not real. this thing, would love to hear from people this morning about the favourite biscuits, apparently it's something about you. the garibaldi, oh my goodness, it is here! what does it say? sophisticated... it is a nonsense article. the garibaldi is great for dunking... nonsense article. the garibaldi is greatfor dunking... i nonsense article. the garibaldi is great for dunking... i don't think it isa great for dunking... i don't think it is a great uncle. what makes it more interesting is it is packed with squash currents between a biscuit dough. what sets it apart is that its fans, just like their biscuits and everything in life, do it with a bit of added style. there you go. what does it say about your malted milk? my malted milk has not made the list. it says a lot about the article, again. we can analyse all your personalities. what makes the garibaldi more interesting? the nickname of it is the fly cemetery. the changes it for you. do you

remember the up? the disney film? the changes it for you. do you rememberthe up? the disney film7m makes a crazy time. we have somebody else being ta ken makes a crazy time. we have somebody else being taken out by balloons. david blaine. he has gone up. there he is. hanging on these balloons, 25,000 feet into the air he went, carried by helium balloons. 0f course he got frozen, buried alive, stuck in the box of 40 days. that is his latest challenge. didn't i see a story the other day, a little girl, she is three years old, got carried away by a kite, she is fine. for about 20 seconds. you have got to be really careful. don't try something like that at home is the fair thing to say. the elephant. this is a cute picture. this is a lovely one to finish. but if you are feeling died this morning, lying in bed, watching the telly yawning, hope you don't look quite like this. a picture in the times today. this is the krishna

century in south africa. a report, science about the fact that we catch a yawn from one another, if naga yawns, i do. they are contagious. this is how the elephant court it's yours. that is the front page.” this is how the elephant court it's yours. that is the front page. i am looking at these biscuits, this is what i am going to be obsessed with this morning. if you like a jeffrey kaye, and i like ajafican, only a certain type, if you like them, guess what your personality? —— jaffa. insecure. there is the whole argument whether it is cake or biscuit. it is a bit of fruit, a bit of chocolate. it is that you like things that make you feel comforted and secure. a desperate for a biscuit. i need a jaffa cake. 6:23am. let us talk more healthy

food. during lockdown many of us spent more time in our gardens, with some even growing their own fruit and veg, but an abundance of produce gave one woman in northumberland an idea to help others. she started donating to a fresh food bank which helps families across the county. now more than 200 home growers are taking part. alison freeman reports. from field to fork via the foodbank. sue's surplus of garden grown goods arejust some of sue's surplus of garden grown goods are just some of the fresh fruit and veg are are just some of the fresh fruit and veg are now are just some of the fresh fruit and veg are now being distributed most in need. i are more than happy to share what i've got, my time and my produce with everybody —— eye are more than happy. think everybody has the right to have fresh food and fresh food is so expensive. this is

a way of helping people to access fresh food that can't normally afford it. every week, sue is one of 200 home and allotment growers in northumberland to contribute to the accident fresh foodbank. the producers gathered at a local shop before being given to foodbank volu nteers before being given to foodbank volunteers to hand out. this was all the idea ofjenny 0'farrell, who saw lockdown was giving people the time to grow lots of fruit and vegetables. she decided they could be shared with those who might be forced to rely on more traditional tinned and dried supplies. for some of our more unusual product ‘s then, people have actually started labelling, writing recipes, telling people what to do with them. so everybody can access good, fresh produce. so do you think that people who use the foodbank are most in need of fresh projust? who use the foodbank are most in need of fresh pro just? -- who use the foodbank are most in need of fresh projust? -- produce? absolutely. they are massively using ten orfrozen produce. and there is

no reason why they shouldn't have access to good produce. the fact that we are growing without pesticides, without chemicals is just the cherry on top. once the west northumberland foodbank gets the fresh produce it sorted into bags, alongside the other donations or delivery by its volunteers. but for those who run the project, its not just about the fantastic range of food that's being delivered. the tea m of food that's being delivered. the team have even been making apple crumbles and apple pies and home—madejams crumbles and apple pies and home—made jams and chutneys. crumbles and apple pies and home—madejams and chutneys. and i think the response has been people are amazed that complete strangers have taken the time to be so kind to make something nice to eat for somebody they have never met before. so people really appreciate that. 0h, so people really appreciate that. oh, that looks brilliant, katie. samples my daughter rosie is a single mum of three on a low income. the foodbank has enabled her to give nutritious food to her children —— sammer‘s daughter. nutritious food to her children —— sammer's daughter. she was quite

excited about it. try growing vegeta bles excited about it. try growing vegetables myself, which are not very good at. but being able to receive projects, it's fantastic. it isa receive projects, it's fantastic. it is a good way of showing because with the food comes from. -- produce. it is hoped other growers will follow suit across the country, sharing not only their food but their sense of community. and all this is happening with food that might have gone to waste. exactly. it was just from a couple of packets of seeds in my cupboard that i wasn't going to use this year. alison freeman, bbc news, northumberland. it is going to be quite a harvest festival this year. some friends gave me some fabulous tomatoes. they taste, no offence to...i tomatoes. they taste, no offence to... itry tomatoes. they taste, no offence to... i try to buy really good tomatoes if they can, they taste com pletely tomatoes if they can, they taste completely different. you are full of malted milk. and chocolate digestive ‘s and jaffa cakes. enjoying producing. you are watching bbc breakfast.

still to come: the parents of charlie gard tell us about their joy of welcoming hisbaby brother to the world the day after what would have been charlie's fourth birthday. we'll be discussing that shortly and bringing you the latest news. carol has the weather for us this morning. it is blustery, it is windy, it is turbulent. and that is all going on in carol's had! morning! thank you for that, naga. good morning america 80. naga is not com pletely morning america 80. naga is not completely wrong and what she is saying —— good morning, everybody. gusty was medically across the north—west and we have a band of cloud and rain sinking southward. you can see from one of our weather watchers pictures taken earlier this

morning. today's forecast is a cool one, a breezy one, and also a showery one. it will be slightly cooler than it was yesterday in some parts. we have a weather front which has already left us, this is a second one coming south that is producing the cloud and rain. looking at the squeeze in isobars it is telling you particularly in the north—west gusty winds. these are the kind of temperatures that will greet you if you are just stepping out now. for some of us, particularly england and wales, the temperature is 17—18 as we speak. that is quite high for this time of day at this time of year. there goes our first weather front taking its rain. the second one is a sinking southward. it will continue to do so as we go through the rest of this morning. quite making conditions across the south—west of england, low cloud, poor visibility, across the south—west of england, low cloud, poorvisibility, mist across the south—west of england, low cloud, poor visibility, mist and fog stop as the system sinks south at will have patchy rain on it and a fair bit of cloud. behind it we are looking bright skies, sunshine, and also some showers. don't forget the brisk winds gusting. up to 45 mph

with exposure in the north—west. later we could have just got 50 mph across the northern isles. temperatures in the range, 15—21. as we had on through the evening and overnight, a front sinks southwards, a fairly weak affair, but it will pivot around and it looks like through tomorrow it will come back again. so friday, first thing, not a cold start of the day, not quite as mild as it is at the moment. there will be some clear skies but a plethora of showers, particularly in the north. showers will be the name of the game as we go through the course of the next few days. if we pick up this weather front again, remember said it was coming back, here it is, across parts of the south and sinking towards the south—east. its northern extents might yet change, so if you are doing something outside to keep in touch with the weather forecast. this is what we think it will do at the moment, move north of that, broce was of sunshine and showers once again, some of the showers could be heavy and thundery, being

blown in again on a brisk wind across northern ireland and scotland. the brisk wind will carry some of them over towards the east as well stop on friday, temperatures down a touch. today 20—21, tomorrow 17-18 down a touch. today 20—21, tomorrow 17—18 and down a touch. today 20—21, tomorrow 17-18 and 19. down a touch. today 20—21, tomorrow 17—18 and 19. as we had on from friday into the weekend we have the azores high which is building on the south. low pressure is very close to the north. that means things will be a little bit more settled in southern areas. still some showers and still quite windy in the north. hello this is breakfast with naga munchetty and jon kay. we'll bring you all the latest news and sport in a moment, but also on breakfast this morning. a royal flush. the duke and duchess of sussex have signed a mega multi—year deal with the streaming giant netflix. we'll find out more before eight. from hosting quizzes to murder mysteries. the pointless presenter richard osman joins us to talk about his debut novel. and we'll be meeting jasper.

the cockapoo therapy dog who‘s one of the ‘corona heroes‘ switching on the blackpool illuminations tomorrow. good morning. here‘s a summary of today‘s main stories from bbc news. the rising demand for coronavirus tests has led to appointments being rationed in some places, and some people are being sent more than 100 miles away from home for a swab. the government says areas with fewer cases have had their capacity reduced in order to cope with outbreaks, but there are concerns spikes elsewhere could be missed. travellers arriving into scotland from greece must now quarantine for 14 days under new measures that have come into force this morning. it‘s after cases in scotland were traced back to popular greek tourist resorts. in wales, people returning from zakynthos have also been asked to self—isolate, after more than 30 cases were linked to the popular greek island in a week. greece is still currently on the foreign office‘s list of countries exempt from quarantine.

the russian government has denied accusations that its opposition leader, alexei navalny, was attacked with a nerve agent last month. it‘s after german authorities claimed they had "unequivocal proof" that the politician had been poisoned by novichok. the german chancellor angela merkel said mr navalny was a victim of attempted murder and the world would look to russia for answers. president trump has come under fire for suggesting that people vote twice in the upcoming election — something that is illegal in the us. he made the suggestion during a visit to north carolina — where thousands of people are expected to vote by postal ballot in november. mr trump has been a vocal critic of postal voting, claiming it can lead to ‘tremendous fraud‘.

we can talk more now about the coronavirus testing system. gp dr zoe norrisjoins us from east yorkshire. good morning to you and thank you for getting up so early i know you have a busy day. this morning we reported about some people in some areas being asked to go and get a test 100 miles away from home full those in london being told to head to wales, people in bristol being told to go to manchester. what concerns do you have about hearing that? when i heard initially about this yesterday my first thought was that if there is a real shortage of testing kits then it makes sense to concentrate them in areas where there are outbreaks but that needs to bea there are outbreaks but that needs to be a very short terms rated g. we have been promised there will be tests readily available and i have patients who would not manage to drive such a distance and if you are feeling unwell, that is a huge trip to undertake. so it is not realistic at all after 48 hours or so. it

needs to be sorted. the government this morning announced they are investing hundreds of millions of pounds in expanding trials and getting more rapid testing in certain hot spots and areas. do you think we are on top of this? it is only the beginning of september and there is a long winter ahead of us with flu and other viruses. what do you think about how this could develop in the weeks and months ahead? i am concerned, most, with primary carers, we know the capacity issues that we normally have in winter and anyone who has been u nwell winter and anyone who has been unwell in winter and struggled to get a unwell in winter and struggled to geta gp unwell in winter and struggled to get a gp appointment will know the same. it really feels as if we were operating at maximum before the pandemic and we are operating beyond maximum now, albeit with phone and video consultation mostly but still seem vulnerable patients face—to—face. however than bring patients down if they potentially have flu or coronavirus will be a real challenge. we have been talking

about the flu jab as well over the last few days and i know that is something that several of our viewers have been in touch asking about because there have been questions about capacity for that as well. what is your latest understanding of how it will work in your surgery and elsewhere? in our area we have many gp surgeries that have to really think outside the box in terms of the flu vaccine and delivering it in different ways. normally if you go for a free vaccine at surgery there will be a big queue of other people waiting for their vaccine as well and obviously we cannot do that was social distancing. so some surgeries will still offer it more spread out for patients who perhaps have mobility issues but there will also be drive through flu vaccination clinics, clinics outside in car parks, in schools, in village halls and sports centres where there is extra capacity and space in evenings and weekends to try and meet that

demand and ensure we get as many as people possible vaccinated. because of the time when you normally do the flu vaccine, that could coincide with if not a second wave but a likely increase in cases of coronavirus. so are you thinking about potential cross infection?m isa about potential cross infection?m is a real worry and i think particularly given the government has announced that they want to vaccinate another cohort this year of 50-64 vaccinate another cohort this year of 50—64 —year—olds, we don‘t normally do those patients. that is another huge group that we don‘t normally cope with and we need to cope with with different measures and, finally, the vaccines are not necessarily available because we have to order them 12 months in advance. thank you very much and we will speak again soon. we will speak to the health secretary, matt hancock, a little later on and we will put some of those points to him, particularly those about capacity and testing. him, particularly those about capacity and testinglj him, particularly those about capacity and testing. i am still obsessed with biscuits. we were

talking about what your favourite biscuit says about you and someone has got in touch with us to tell as he is upset about the piece because there is no rich tea biscuit. the digestive is predictable but i am wondering if you are in negotiations, tense negotiations and you think 0k, negotiations, tense negotiations and you think ok, let‘s have a cup of tea and a biscuit, what would you put on the table? i think about this because there is a debate about lionel messi and whether he will stay or go and cat is looking at that this morning. now, tell us, what is the biscuit of negotiation. a party ring! if you are a party ring fan you are fashion conscious. it is the childish field that makes you fashion conscious. footballers do love fashion. more rinaldo than

messi and that is big debate on foot all. six—time world footballer of the year lionel messi‘s potential transfer from barcelona is the transfer story this year. alex gulrajani has more. just when you thought 2020 couldn‘t get any more surprising... messi alexa and he scores. a transfer involving one of the world‘s best footballers. however much messi wa nts to footballers. however much messi wants to leave barcelona, it is not going to be easy. his father is trying to make it happen that in his own words... it is proving to be difficult. and this is why. £623 million for that is the release fee for his contract. but his team believe a brief clause allows him to leave for nothing. that is some difference of opinion. if a club would assign him, whatever the tra nsfer would assign him, whatever the transfer fee, here is

would assign him, whatever the transferfee, here is what would assign him, whatever the transfer fee, here is what you would to pay him. £54 million a year to yes, he is one of the best paid athletes in the world. so don‘t expect that to drop significantly. so will he be staying or going?” think lionel absolutely wants to leave the club after 15 years and i think most fans accept he will go, with great reluctance. he is 33 now. i watched him times last season and he is still the best player in spain, probably at 95% of his level andi spain, probably at 95% of his level and i think he still has two or three years at the very top level. manchester city in a reunion with theirformer manchester city in a reunion with their former coach manchester city in a reunion with theirformer coach pat manchester city in a reunion with their former coach pat ideology is a destination that seems more likely than others. but as with most events this year... anything is possible. we will keep you up—to—date with all the twists and turns as those talks continue here on bbc breakfast.

let‘s head over now to the us open. britain‘s kyle edmund had it all to do at the us open last night. and despite a strong start he couldn‘t get past the world number one novak djokovic who remains unbeaten in 2020. edmund did take the first set on a tiebreak to spark hopes of a shock win, but djokovic rediscovered his touch and took the next two sets 6—3 6—4. and then broke the british number two at the start of the fourth before wrapping up the match. he‘s chasing an 18th grand slam title. while edmund is out, cameron norrie‘s stay in new york continues. he‘s into the third round of a grand slam for the first time in his career after beating argentine federico coria in straight sets. top women‘s seed karolina pliskova is out. she lost 6—1, 7—6 to world number 50 caroline garcia of france. meanwhile, the 2018 champion naomi 0saka‘s continued her protest against racial inequality in the us by wearing the names

of african—america ns killed by police before her matches. herface mask read elijah mccalin — in tribute to the 23—year—old who died last summer after being detained by police. and there‘s a british rider wearing cycling‘s famous yellow leader‘s jersey at the tour de france after the man who was in possession of it was penalised for taking a drink at the wrong time. julian alaphilippe in yellow, in the middle of your screen, you can see him stretching out to take a bottle from a team—member. well, the thing is you‘re not allowed to do that in the final 20 kilometres of a stage. so the frenchman got a 20—second penalty which means adam yates inherited the overall lead, moving him to the top of the podium. he‘s only the ninth british rider to lead the race. it was that drink that cost the frenchman the yellow jersey it was that drink that cost the frenchman the yellowjersey but it is tough. they are the rules. it is tough at the top as you know. you are cheeky this morning!”

tough at the top as you know. you are cheeky this morning! i am being nice! that was me being nice. i saw you being cheeky to carolyn now you are cheeky to me. carolwill have the weather for us shortly. it is blustery out there. three years ago connie yates and chris gard were left heartbroken when their baby boy charlie died. the legal row over his treatment for a rare genetic condition had made headlines around the world. but last month the family were given some hope again when charlie‘s little brother, 0lly, was born. breakfast‘s graham satchell has been to meet the family. as soon as i found out i was pregnant i felt happier. like i could smile again. and once he was here it was even better, really. i think, before, you just cluster a

smile on and say i am 0k, think, before, you just cluster a smile on and say i am ok, i am 0k all the time. but now i feel like i can smile and mean it. after we lost charlie ijust could not ever imagine loving another boy like i did him. so when he was born, much of it was relief because i felt, again, like! of it was relief because i felt, again, like i did with charlie. an instant rush of love. chris and connie‘s new son 0llie is 1—month—old he arrived the day after what would have been his brother‘s fourth birthday. all of it makes us feel like charlie had a hand in getting him here and getting him hearsay. her contractions started on his birthday, about the time he was born, yeah, i just feel his birthday, about the time he was born, yeah, ijust feel that charlie did have a massive part to play in making sure he was healthy and to make us happy again. after we lost charlie it just felt like make us happy again. after we lost charlie itjust felt like a part of us charlie itjust felt like a part of us died with him and we never thought we would be genuinely happy again. but we feel very lucky to be

where we are. charlie was born with a rare genetic disorder. mitochondrial dna depletion syndrome. he spent most of his short life in hospital. there was no cure for charlie‘s condition but chris and connie wanted to try a new treatment in america. after initially supporting them, doctors are great 0rmond eventually decided that charlie‘s condition had deteriorated too much on any further treatment would be futile. the case ended up in court. i think it is very ha rd to ended up in court. i think it is very hard to know what you would do u nless very hard to know what you would do unless you are in that situation yourself. but, you know, there was so much support that we did receive which we are eternally grateful for. it was a moral dilemma. what would you do if it were your child? you have a doctor offering treatment with a chance of working, would you ta ke with a chance of working, would you take your child for that treatment? we believed that most would, with those odds. the reality is that charlie cannot see and he cannot

hear, he cannot move, he cannot cry, hear, he cannot move, he cannot cry, he cannot swallow. immensely, sadly, his condition is one that affords him no benefit. charlie's parents took theirfight him no benefit. charlie's parents took their fight to the supreme court and then the european court. but lost. our son is an absolute warrior and we could not be prouder of him and we will miss him terribly. his body, heart and soul may soon be gone but his spirit will live on for eternity and he will make a difference to people‘s lives for yea rs make a difference to people‘s lives for years to come, we will make sure of that. you look up at the judge and it is like you are on tv and they are up hires if they are a god making a decision about your child and it is very difficult. i can't even put it into words, really. we will always live with that what if. what if he had been given treatment when we asked for it and what would have happened if so much time had

not been dragged out in court? we have to live with that. as long as something coming judgement positive comes out of his life, that is what we ask for. and we will try to find a treatment for the disease that took him from us so we try to make sure it is all positive now. chris and connie met raised over £1 million for charlie‘s treatments. they now use that money to fund research into rare genetic disorders. to hear in 2020 that there is a disease you cannot even trial anything for, there is no hope whatsoever, you know, cancer is devastating but usually there is a little hope with that at least. so we wa nt little hope with that at least. so we want to change that. there is not enough money put into research and there is hardly any treatment, literally just a handful, there is hardly any treatment, literallyjust a handful, so hopefully we can be a part of that change. the search for an effective treatment will be a key part of charlie‘s legacy. there was a chance that chris and connie‘s new son would also inherent a genetic disorder but thankfully he is healthy. we are just so blessed to

have him. some parents out there who can‘t have children at all and there are parents who have lost more than one child and the fact that we lost one child and the fact that we lost one but have been given the chance for another, a healthy baby, and to experience bringing up a child in trying to raise him into the best man he can possibly be, that is something we are looking forward to and it is just something we are looking forward to and it isjust a something we are looking forward to and it is just a blessing we can try to gain and do the things we missed out on with poor little charlie. that was graham satchell reporting. it is lovely to see that family with new joy. never obviously it is lovely to see that family with newjoy. never obviously forgetting charlie, butt to bring such joy to them as well. i think lots of families, although they will be in different situations, will take from the strength. lovely to see. thousands of pupils in england and wales returned to the classroom yesterday for the first time

since lockdown began in march. so what did the new normal look like? geeta pendse spent the day in one secondary school in shropshire to find out. good morning. how are you doing? it's good morning. how are you doing? it‘s their first day back, but for these year sevens it is also their first day at secondary school. and with so many safety changes to their mixed feelings. good morning. are you all right, girls? it was a bit ofa you all right, girls? it was a bit of a stretch waking up early to go to school. i feel a bit sad to come back to school. we have been off for so back to school. we have been off for so long. i avenue -- i am a bit nervous but not as nervous because i‘m doing it with everyone else. it's been six weeks, i'm actually really nervous. are you? why are you nervous? because there's lots of new people and i'm in a new area. you are going to have a proper tour, not are going to have a proper tour, not a virtual tour, a proper tour of the school. year 7 of the first two return with the full school back by friday. arrivals are staggered with form groups led in one at a time.

all the form groups are now in their classrooms, they have all hand sanitiser on the way in, and they are being shown a video which they would normally do, which is all about health and safety measures, where they can go, the 1—way system, and they also have a planner, which they would would not normally get, and this time it provides lots of information on health and safety. so there is a lot to take in. a tape marks where the teacher can stand to observe social distancing. with each year forming observe social distancing. with each yearforming a observe social distancing. with each year forming a bubble observe social distancing. with each yearforming a bubble and moving from one class to the next at the same time. the school advised here is to wear masks in corridors and communal spaces indoors and most seem to be —— advice. so much to ta ke seem to be —— advice. so much to take in, the first break time is a chance to relax. it's actually going really well. the teacher is really, really well. the teacher is really, really friendly. add i am with most of my friends so it‘s really co mforta ble of my friends so it‘s really comfortable and i‘ve settled in really well. actually, i'm feeling pretty happy. i'm glad to be back, to be honest with you. quite

isolating to be at home and teaching online is really not the as having the children. a recent survey suggests building in england after three months behind in their studies, so catching up is key. it‘s something the new head here is aware of. over time in this term we are confident that what will go on in the classroom will help to identify where there may be students who have fallen behind and where we need to we will put the plans in place, either through the classroom beyond the classroom where needed. you have beenin the classroom where needed. you have been in his profession for 20 years, this is your first year as head been in his profession for 20 years, this is yourfirst year as head of school. what kind of challenges are you facing? scale of what we have been through as a profession is significant. we are conscious that there is now potentially going to be further transmission as a consequence of schools reopening and we play our part in society within that. the lunch menu is similar to before but students aren‘t allowed to stay in the canteen. the damp

weather doesn‘t seem to be putting them off. back in class and the last subject is maths. so is it ten out of ten for school? it's been really fun meeting new teachers and eve ryo ne fun meeting new teachers and everyone and making new friends. i'm excited to go back home and then i'm actually really sad, because i've really enjoyed it today. what's changed is i've actually got to know people very well and i feel so much better and no nerves. they have all gone. that's the first day done, just the rest of the year to go now. well done to all of them and to you if you are going off to school and studying. i wonder weather starting ata studying. i wonder weather starting at a big school in year 7 at a time like this, normally would want a time like this, but whether it makes it easier to deal with in some ways, you haven‘t got the crowded dining

hall, assembly, all those massive kids. it is the big kids. they are still big to me... laughter everyone is big to you! it is the big kids. what are they going to do? you adjusting your little bubble of your year group. if it works like it does for those guys, it works like it does for those guys, it does work. good stuff. pupils across england may be back in the classroom, but labour says more needs to be done to prevent disadvantaged students from falling behind. the party‘s calling for a national catch—up strategy, as studies suggest the education gaps between pupils have worsened in lockdown. we‘re joined now by shadow cabinet minister rachel reeves. thank you very much for your time this morning. so your catch up strategy, tell me how it would work in practice? well, that is a lovely report from that school there and my children go back to school today so it isa children go back to school today so it is a big day for my family. we, at the moment, don‘t know the scale of the challenge ahead because so

many children have been out of school for so long. but the data we have seen already shows that that gap between the children who were already disadvantaged and their peers has widened over the last few months. and it is absolutely essential that that gap is closed. and after the summer of incompetence we have had from this government and the failure, for example, to deliver the failure, for example, to deliver the summer schemes that the prime minister promised, it is now essential that the government publish the data on the gap between those children, put in place a national strategy that needs to cover children all the way up to the end of school. the current announcement, promises from the government, don‘t cover children over the age of 16. and obviously thatis over the age of 16. and obviously that is a massive mistake when those children are going to be sitting a very children are going to be sitting a very soon. . . children are going to be sitting a very soon... ok, so practically, what would you do? first of all, we would publish the data and the government haven‘t made that commitment. then we would have an independent monitoring of the gap

between the most disadvantaged children and their peers, one from the children‘s commissioner would be the children‘s commissioner would be the way to do it. we would put in place a cast—iron guarantee that the gap would be closed by putting in the resources that would be needed. and until the children are back at school and the teachers have been able to monitor and check that, it‘s difficult to know the scale of the challenge. but everything we have seen so far shows that the gap has widened, the government have got a duty and a responsibility to close that gap and monitor it independently so that no child is disadvantaged by what we have seen with the terrible situation over the past few months. if the gap has widened and the government has acknowledged this, what is the difference between use and you want to see the data and the government acknowledging the data ? to see the data and the government acknowledging the data? you can‘t do anything about it yet? well, the government haven‘t committed to publishing that data, that is a mistake. they haven‘t promised to independently and they haven‘t

promised and committed to close the 93p- promised and committed to close the gap. they have committed some money, although i say, there is a problem in that it doesn‘t include, for example, the early years and it doesn‘t include post 16. that needs to change. and we are already hearing from schools that the money that they are being promised, some of that won‘t be available until well into the autumn term. the national tutoring programme that the government had promised won‘t be up and running fully until next spring. those things are not good enough. and after what we have seen over the summer with the exams fiasco, the failure to deliver the catch up schemes over the summer that the government promised, we are now urging the government and saying what we would do is publish the data, have a national strategy, and haveit data, have a national strategy, and have it independently monitored so that the gap is closed. ok. shall we talk about the economy and, obviously, so much money has been pumped into the economy by the government because of the coronavirus pandemic. 0ur public debt has hit £2 trillion for the

first time. 0bviously government borrowing has reached levels we haven‘t seen in peacetime. what would be your strategy, your practical strategy now in order to pay that debt back, to balance the books? 0ur taxes, higher taxes, maybe not this year or next year, but are they inevitable, would you if your income and be preparing the public for that? i don't think this is the time to be raising taxes, for the simple reason that we need to get the economy going. and the reason why that debt has increased and domont borrowing has increased is to find the schemes that were essential to stop more job losses. it isa essential to stop more job losses. it is a mistake, i believe, and the labour party believes, to unwind the furlough scheme as quickly as the government are doing so... can we talk about taxes. is it inevitable that taxes will rise? i have just a nswer that taxes will rise? i have just answer that question... you said now was not the time and irc question saying if not now, even if not next

year, inevitably they would rise, and if you were in power would you wa nt and if you were in power would you want the public that is the case? actually, the best way to reduce the debt‘n‘deficit is to get the economy growing. because if you do that then there is more money coming in through taxes because people are in work. the reason why the deficit is as increases because government spinning has had to increase also because people are losing theirjobs and are not paying in... sorry to interrupt. but in order to avoid taxes rising, if you are going to go solely on growth, growth would have to be significantly higher than where we were in much more prosperous times before covid. so you are saying that over the course of the next few years we will see the economy grow at a much faster rate and that would mean taxes wouldn‘t have to go up. rate and that would mean taxes wouldn't have to go up. that is the priority, to get the economy growing, whether the government can deliver that we will have to see. it isa deliver that we will have to see. it is a mistake to be unwinding the furlough scheme so quickly because it means more people are going to be out of work, it means less support

for businesses to recover. the best way to reduce the debt‘n‘deficit is to get the economy growing. that is the responsibility of the government to deliver. they are making a mistake in unwinding the furlough scheme. it will make it harder for the economy to recover. rachel reeves, talk —— thank you very much your time this morning. if like her kids you are off to school or work this morning. you may need a coat in some places. carol has the weather. it looks blustery in cornwall. good morning. we have a lot of fog around in cornwall this morning as you can see from the lovely weather watchers picture. south—west england is prone to low cloud, mist, and fog and poor visibility first thing this morning. the most of us it will be breezy and showery after what is a relatively mild start of the day. temperatures at the moment, north to south, 12— 18 degrees. this weather front producing some rain, the rain has been steadily pushing southward through the course of the night. some heavy bursts in it, as it continues to think southwards to the

rest of the day that rain will turn more patchy in nature and there will bea more patchy in nature and there will be a lot of cloud associated with it. one or two bright spills in the south—east, but mostly cloudy today. north of that we‘re looking at a mix of bright spills, sunshine, and showers and gusty winds, 40—45 mph with exposure in the north—west. even in late you will notice that. temperatures up a touch on yesterday with highs of 21. the headlines are coming up next. good morning. welcome to breakfast with naga munchetty and jon kay. 0ur headlines today: people in some areas are having to travel more than 100 miles for coronavirus tests. the government says it‘s spending more to speed up testing. a 14—day quarantine awaits passengers travelling from greece to scotland from this morning.

a good morning. thousands of passengers flying to great portugal and they are facing quarantine relent. that is according to aviation bosses. they won in two stage testing system or they say thousands of jobs stage testing system or they say thousands ofjobs will be lost. russia faces international demands for an explanation, after germany said there is proof that one of president putin‘s leading critics, alexei navalny, was poisoned with the nerve—agent, novichok. is time up for lionel messi at barcelona ? the club don‘t want to let him go — but he wants to leave, and the talks have begun... it‘s thursday the third of september. our top story. the rising demand for coronavirus tests in some areas has led to appointments being rationed, and some people are being sent more than 100 miles from home to get a swab. the government says areas with fewer cases have had their capacity reduced in order to cope with outbreaks elsewhere. we‘re joined now by our political correspondent, iain watson.

morning, iain. what more can you tell us about this? i suppose all the money for more rapid testing is one thing but if you have to drive 100 miles for a test in the meantime it is hard to ta ke test in the meantime it is hard to take that as consolation. that is the difficulty at the moment because effectively in parts of the country where the fire speak early on including here in london, clearly the prevalence of the disease has decreased and demand as people is beginning to go back to work has increased so the testing capacity remains around 350,000 test a day but more people want to be tested and those areas where there isn‘t a current outbreak a finding that people may have to travel quite a long distance for a drive—through test. you can still get a home testing kit which take a bit longer to get a result but for example some people in london have been told to

head to cardiff and some in devon have been told to head to wales as well and public health experts worry that this may in effect he had big disincentive for people to be tested, they may decide not to. and if they do that then perhaps local spikes may go undetected. what the government says is that they are doing two things. first of all in southhampton they are trailing rapid testing with people getting results within 20 minutes and in salford they will be testing the population far more regularly, perhaps on a weekly basis including people who have no symptoms at all which should help get on top of the virus and perhaps stem the prospect of a second way. but it is something that jeremy hunt and tony blair have been calling forfor some time jeremy hunt and tony blair have been calling for for some time and they would say the government should have been doing this asymptomatic testing far more rapidly and far more widespread basis. we will be joined by the current health secretary

three a little bit later here on brea kfast. three a little bit later here on breakfast. we are keen to hear from you this morning and get in touch. if you have been in that situation where you have been trying to book a test and you have been given the option of going miles from home, let us know your situation on social media this morning. from today, people in scotland will have different travel quarantine rules from the rest of the uk. scottish holidaymakers returning from greece will now have to self—isolate for 14 days after new measures came in this morning. in wales, travellers returning from the greek island of zakynthos are also required to isolate. howeverfor england and northern ireland, greece is still exempt from the quarantine list. let‘s speak to our scotland correspondent, lorna gordon, who is at glasgow airport this morning. lorna, how have holidaymakers been reacting to the new quarantine rules there? it will be interesting to see. good morning. there was one flight arriving here at glasgow airport that touched down a couple of hours

before the 4am quarantine deadline kicked in which sees greece come the latest holiday hot spot to be added to that quarantine list. the scottish government is asking anyone who has returned from greece over the last few days to be extra careful with their social contact with an s but anyone who returns from four o‘clock onwards this morning will now have two self quarantine for 14 days. holidaymakers, the bbc has been speaking to, say they are not happy with this, they had to cancel holidays and they are losing money. the airports are calling this a blunt tool. they would like to see more testing to try and reduce the 14 day quarantine limit. interesting as well that the greek government tourism minister calls it harsh and disproportionate and on top of all that, the tour operators are calling ita that, the tour operators are calling it a bit of that, the tour operators are calling ita bit ofa that, the tour operators are calling it a bit of a model, i hope you cokie of countries in and countries out. they say that once again scottish holidaymakers are facing a disjointed approach, a decision that

is out of step with the rest of the uk. the scottish government says that this is proportionate and scotland‘s first minister has repeatedly warned people to think very carefully when travelling abroad and said they took this decision because of a significant rise in the number of cases of covid—19 among people travelling back from reese once they are tested back from reese once they are tested back here in scotland. thank you very much. last week portugal was in the list and now it is out of the list and now it may be re—entering the list. let‘s speak to to our europe correspondent, gavin lee, who is at faro marina in the algarve this morning. what are people saying to you there, gavin? we understand there are around 25— 30,000 british tourists who arrived when the travel corridor opened again 12 days ago. portugal is one of those countries throughout

the pandemic where there was no safe zone between the two so suddenly and there in mind the british tourists are the biggest single foreign tourists to this country, there was i°y tourists to this country, there was joy for the tourist industry here and for the british people who could travel. we‘re not sure how many have gone back in the last 12 days or how many are still there but there are clearly still in and around portugal, mainly here in and around the algarve and there are now two issues. the government mantra is that only be content to travel if you are prepared for the unexpected to quarantine. i spoke to families in the last 24 hours who are already either planning to go back tomorrow if they have to do, they are booking, and family are booking two flights. they said they spent £500 for each person to get back tomorrow. there are only two flights tomorrow. there are only two flights to london and two flights to manchester tomorrow. other family say they cannot afford it and they will have to face the effect of quarantine. i met one family at the

airport yesterday who said that they have other members of the family coming up and that will have to be cancelled. but this season, this month is important. they call it silver season, month is important. they call it silverseason, september, month is important. they call it silver season, september, because this is when many older tourists come out for golf and there are many tournaments here. also because many of the children have gone back to school so this works out to about 13% of portugal‘s economy from british tourists and that will hang on what happens. how long will this last and they are wearing for some —— waiting for some news to. the russian government has denied accusations that its opposition leader, alexei navalny, was attacked with a nerve agent last month. it‘s after german authorities claimed they had "unequivocal proof" that the politician had been poisoned by novichok — the same chemical that was used in an attack in salisbury in 2018. on twitter, borisjohnson vowed to work with international partners to ensure justice is done. the wife of the policeman nick bailey, who was poisoned by the chemical in salisbury, responded by saying "actions speak louder than words".

president trump has come under fire for suggesting that people vote twice in the upcoming election — something that is illegal in the us. he made the comments in north carolina — and said voters there should test the state‘s system by attempting to vote once by mail and once in person. mr trump has been a vocal critic of postal voting, claiming it can lead to ‘tremendous fraud‘. dwayne ‘the rock‘ johnson — usually seen jumping out of burning buildings in one of his action films — has revealed on instagram that he and his family have been recovering from coronavirus. the actor said the positive test results were a ‘kick in the gut‘, but has offered his social media followers some of his tips on staying safe. this has been one of the most challenging and difficult things we have ever had to endure as a family and for me personally as well. be disciplined, be disciplined when it

comes to people coming over to your house, get them tested. you never know. be extra cautious. do not let your guard down. boost your immunity with antioxidants or vitamin c, things of that nature. if it hurts that man it is going to hurt you. and if he tells you to do it, just do it. do not refuse. more detailfor those more detail for those just waking up this morning as far as travel plans are concerned because it has all changed again in some places. from today, people arriving into scotland from greece will have to self—isolate for 14 days — that‘s despite fairly low levels of coronavirus cases there. usually the government in westminster introduces quarantine measures when a country‘s infection rate exceeds 20 per 100,000 people in the past week. but the new rules introduced

by the scottish government today come after several cases in scotland were traced back to popular tourist destinations in greece. people coming back to wales from the greek island of zakynthos are also being asked to quarantine for 14 days. but holidaymakers elsewhere in england and northern ireland can still travel to greece without needing to self—isolate on their return. meanwhile, portugal was removed from the uk‘s exemption listjust two weeks ago, but the number of cases there has risen to more than 20 per 100,000 people — which means measures could be reintroduced. it could go back on the quarantine list. is that all clear? do you understand? let‘s speak to two people affected by the latest changes. mark gardiner is on holiday in rhodes, he‘s due to fly back to glasgow on sunday. and gary search is the owner

of fat cats bar in albufeira. thank you so much, all of you. shelley... let‘s go to rhodes first and ask what the situation there is for you in greece. how are things looking this morning? me? yeah, yeah. everything seems normal here. we just yeah. everything seems normal here. wejust got yeah. everything seems normal here. we just got the news the other day and so we are considering government guidances but the scottish government suddenly decided to use a different metric. so you follow the guidance and think you should be ok and then the next thing you know you are not. you have to get back or except you will be in quarantine, which we do and we accept that. so how will this affect your plans? it won‘t change anything. i have been working from home for the last four

or five working from home for the last four orfive months, working from home for the last four or five months, same working from home for the last four orfive months, same for my working from home for the last four or five months, same for my wife so we a cce pted or five months, same for my wife so we accepted that if we had to go into lockdown we would do it. it is just the fact that the way the scottish government approached this, rather than just saying there has been a spike in greece, why not because of the tracking form you have to complete to return, why not deal with just those islands? have to complete to return, why not deal withjust those islands? you don‘t need every part of greece but they do not seem to be interested. i am flying back to glasgow which has an infection rate of 21. i am going from a country with a lower rate and yet i have to isolate. we were talking through the different nations of the uk and the different approaches at different times. we know where it leaves you, it leaves you on holiday for now. but as for your state of mind, what are you thinking about these different plans

and different nations? is that where we are now with devolution? i think it should be one country and one decision. i have a british passport, they should agree on one position and that is it. wales says one thing, scotland says another, and the uk and english governments are not saying anything at all so that does not make any sense. that is just the way it is. i suppose the politicians and officials in individual nations say that they have the right and the authority to look at the signs and the latest information in front of us and they are doing the best for our people and our nation full i‘m not quite sure what the signs they are following is because if it is 20 and every 100,000 for a lockdown then greece is 15 or less i believe. so they might have been a spike in greece but how many cases are they talking about? they have not said which specific islands. anything specific like that i could understand and you could target is similarto understand and you could target is similar to back home, a local lockdown. you can have our bridges that do not go to those islands,

that do not go to those islands, that you stay from them and other parts are fine. letterhead now to portugal. will talk to gary and his daughter there. how are things looking for you this morning? we seem to have a bit of a suggestion that portugal could be put back onto the quarantine list in the next couple of days. how does that affect you? we would probably lose 30— 50% of our trade. you will a lwa ys lose 30— 50% of our trade. you will always get the people who will still wa nt to always get the people who will still want to come on holiday anyway but many people will go home, many people will not come and it will affect us massively. even at the moment it is the best it has been all summer and we moment it is the best it has been all summerand we are moment it is the best it has been all summer and we are probably 50% down. to lose another 50% would be catastrophic. catastrophic in terms of business, what does that mean for your business? it means we're not

any money. we have already gone through a long winter, three months of lock down, there‘s no real help from the government. sofa staff, employees, ask, you know, need to earn money. we need a couple of months of tourists to try to put something away for the winter. no tourists, there would be no money.” suppose looking at the figures, the rate in portugal, seven day rate has gone up from 14 weeks ago to 22. that is what makes people suspect that the uk government will put portugal back on the quarantine list. if it does go back on the quarantine list, would you rather it had just stayed on the quarantine list throughout or at least has this week avenue some income, some possibility, or has it made it worse? well, it's nice to have this week of trade, but it‘s not nice for the tourists. you really have to

feel for the people coming here and having this pressure of worrying about going home. it doesn‘t do us any favours, to be honest, in the long run. it‘s just any favours, to be honest, in the long run. it‘sjust knocking everybody‘s confidence stop we are having to adjust staffing levels to cope with how busy it is this week. next week it could all change. you know, it‘s very difficult to manage. well, look, thank you very much indeed. thank you to gary in portugal and before that to mark inroads increase. we hope you go back all right, mark. we will keep track of what the changes meant across all the nations of the uk any days and weeks ahead. thanks to you both. you can hear some of the frustrations for holiday makers and business makers. let‘s get more on the bigger picture for uk holidaymakers. lisa minot is the travel editor of the sun and joins us from london this morning. lisa, good to see you this morning. interesting what we were hearing from mark, he is quite frustrated at the disparity, the differences between the nations when it comes to

these rules. can you explain or tell me why you think this is the way the nations, governments and nations have gone this way? i can't. it doesn‘t make any sense. we really should be doing this as a united approach and that has always been the case. the travel industry have been arguing that there should be regional corridors, that quarantine at the moment is to widespread and that countries like spain, where you have the canary islands with less incidence of coronavirus, they should be lumped in with spain. now we‘re seeing the complete twist of that in that we have got scotland and wales deciding to actually put particular islands in greece onto a sort of quarantine list and it has made it even more difficult for consumers to understand exactly what they are meant to do, what is going to happen. so, lisa, at the moment, you would be having readers writing with various situations, what would you be telling them this morning if they are thinking perhaps they do wa nt to they are thinking perhaps they do want to get away at some point?”

think we have to accept that the government has made it clear we are in the middle of a pandemic and they are going to change the rules at will, very quickly and you cannot guarantee, now, it seems, even one week to the next that you can get away and come back without having to quarantine. there are some countries, and keeping an eye on this magicalfigure of countries, and keeping an eye on this magical figure of 20 countries, and keeping an eye on this magicalfigure of 20 is countries, and keeping an eye on this magical figure of 20 is a countries, and keeping an eye on this magicalfigure of 20 is a good way to do it, but it means anyone who is going abroad from now on, really, the only way you can do it is by going at the very last minute and that is devastating for the travel industry and the consumer. doesn‘t seem come first, though? safety does come first, but then we have incidences of coronavirus across the uk spiking itself. but they do feel part of this was about making sure that people were back in the country or not leaving the country, dampening the demand so that we could allow children to go back to school, youngsters to go to university, and people to start moving on with a semblance of normal life in the uk. and by stopping people travelling i think that has probably been their aim in all of

this. what is the policy at the moment in terms of if you go to a country now, which is on the quarantine list in terms of insurance, in terms of whether you can get your money back, depending on when you booked it? it very much depends on when you booked it. most travel insurance policies now, anything post pandemic, won‘t cover you for cancellation for coronavirus. so that is going to be an issue. and it‘s not so much about quarantine. it is about the sco saying whether a country is advised against all but essential travel or not. that is the one trickle —— trigger that makes people like the big tour operators no longer run two was packages to those particular places once it is on the sco list and it is also the trigger for travel insurance as well. that is the one thing we have to look at. there has to become think i‘m a more nuanced approach to looking at actually letting people travel to particular areas where the level of coronavirus on a particular greek island or places in portugal, the

likes of madeira or the azores, hundreds of miles from mainland portugal, where the cases are very low indeed. lisa minot, always good to talk to you. lisa minot is the travel editor for the sun. what does this mean for people heading off on the holidays right now? nina is at liverpool airport this morning, as holidaymakers head to greece not knowing if they will have to self—isolate when they return to england. what are they saying, nina? it looks like they have got on the plane now? yeah, most of them have got on the plane. your guestjust yeah, most of them have got on the plane. your guest just then yeah, most of them have got on the plane. your guestjust then was talking about the complexities and it is all depend on where you go. have a look at the board up here. italia, in turkey, if you go there in the moment you can go there without having to self isolate, malaga, barcelona, spain, the flights are still going ahead but you will have to isolate on return. and your insurance will really be dependent on who you took it out with. and you havejust dependent on who you took it out with. and you have just missed a bear, a fly has just left for favaro

in portugal where the arno bay has gone above 20 or 22. we will have to see whether self isolation will be pa rt see whether self isolation will be part of returning from portugal. even more complicated if you are returning from anywhere in greece, you will have to self isolate in scotland, but particularly in wales. it is incredibly complex. because it is so confusing, it‘s having a huge impact on travel. have a look down here. three flights have left this morning, but this time last year would liverpool airport have looked anything like this? absolutely no way. and there are major concerns about the impact on the travel industry and on insurance. wejust spoke to a lady who had come back after ten yea rs spoke to a lady who had come back after ten years of looking after children, she had come back on contract in november and was excited about a future career in the industry and has just told your contract will not be nude. aviation bosses are saying to the government you need to do more to rebuild public confidence in travel. that

means a two stage testing system, so testing on arrival, testing a few days later, then you can get back to work as quickly as possible. they are telling the government if that doesn‘t happen the damage to the industry will be irreparable. essential business travel will resume, will be —— willie beavers atley the same? of course. but people will travel for business. 0ne in tenjobs in the uk are reliant on travel for business. without free and fast travel between, of course the uk and the us is the largest trade partner we have, we will not see a rebound of aviation and this will stall the economic recovery of the uk. which, of course, is already ina the uk. which, of course, is already in a recession. so it needs everything it can find to fuel the growth. i think at this moment in time the uk government is overseeing the demise of the aviation industry in the uk. we are seeing more job

losses than we did in the demise of the coal industry in the 1980s. that surely —— surely cannot be in adelaide in any government would like to have. so long as we understand that this is a health crisis and we support that fact, there is now also an economic crisis and as an aviation industry we have been stating this for months. there isa been stating this for months. there is a different way in which this can be handled. we should be seeing regionalised quarantine. we should be seeing the introduction of testing in the uk, just like we see in other countries across europe. and the boss of heathrow airport adding to those voices saying that when people book a holiday now they are playing quarantine roulette. we spoke to some passengers this morning who had donejust that. they booked a holiday to spain at a time when there was a travel corridor and that has subsequently been removed. the flight with rainier was going ahead so they felt compelled to come a nyway ahead so they felt compelled to come anyway and get on that flight or they would lose their money. they

said they had taken out extra insurance against covid but they are very confused about what the future will look like. and we will be talking later about what your rights are if you book and then the advice changes, if your flight goes ahead despite the advice changing, or if you decide to stay—at—home if your flight you decide to stay—at—home if your flight is going ahead because of that. we will have an insurance expert on with us lender. to get in touch with your question. john, you asked about the atmosphere for holidaymakers. some of them are really excited about getting out and enjoying sunshine, they feel they have deserved it after a difficulty for most people. but some were saying i‘m getting on the plane, i don‘t know if they will be able to to work on the monday morning when they get home, might have to get a flight they get home, might have to get a flight back early because they have an important thing to make. it does not make for a relaxing time abroad, which is what people want and deserve at the moment. and which makes all the questions you will ask the insurance questions all the more valid. thank you, nina, at liverpool airport bought for us this morning.

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tomorrow! —— that is. you are watching bbc biscuit breakfast. still to come: a royalflush. the duke and duchess of sussex have signed a mega multi—year deal with the streaming giant netflix. we‘ll find out more before 8:00. we‘ll be discussing that shortly and bringing you the latest news. carol has the weather for us today. breezy and showery. have you ever done that, that kite flying thing with the surfboard ? done that, that kite flying thing with the surfboard? i think you would be good at it. kite surfing. no, never. i have done hang gliding which was terrifying. moving along, swiftly, today as naga rightly said it is breezy and showery. for some of the date on south—west england, for example. we have this weather front seeking southwards. that is bringing cloud and rain with it. the

rain has been continuing to fall through the course of the night as it slips steadily southwards. gusty winds today across the north—west and the north, in particular, but inland you will certainly notice that breeze. there goes our weather front with its increasingly patchy rain, a lot of cloud in the south. 0ne rain, a lot of cloud in the south. one or two bright spells. behind it we are looking at bright spells, sunny skies, and some showers. with this brisk south—westerly wind we are also seeing the showers notjust in scotland and northern ireland but also towards the east of scotland and northern england as well. temperatures 15 in the north and 21 in the south. as we had on through the evening and overnight the weather front cink south. there is a band of cloud into the channel islands. behind some clear skies. also those are showers coming in and the brisk winds loving towards the east. it will not be a cold night but not as monday start to the day tomorrow as it is at the moment. at the moment we have temperatures 12— 18 degrees. so starting the day

tomorrow, a weather front looks like it will come back in our direction, it will come back in our direction, it will come back in our direction, it will pep up and bring south through —— rang through the south—west. the position of this could change. it might be a little further north or south. if you have outdoor plans keep tuned to the weather forecast. 0n the other side of that weather front, a lot of dry weather, a fair bit of sunshine around, and also some showers. though showers can be heavy and binary, particularly so in western scotla nd binary, particularly so in western scotland and northern ireland. some of the showers will also again be blown over towards the east. temperatures down a touch, feeling a little bit cooler on friday. as we head into the weekend we have the azores high, so—called because it is near the azores. we also have the low pressure area to the north of scotland. in scotland you are more prone to seeing some showers and, again, some brisk winds. she was getting into northern ireland and a few getting an across north—western parts, for example, of england. for the rest of england and wales

largely dry, but still feeling cool. you could catch the odd road shower but they will be the exception rather than the rule. for sunday, we can see what is happening overnight saturday into sunday. we have this system coming and bringing showery rain across northern ireland and southern scotland, northern england and wales. during the course of sunday that will be with us too. to the north of that brightest guys, still feeling cool. hello. this is breakfast with naga munchetty and jon kay. the rising demand for coronavirus tests in some areas has led to appointments being rationed, and some people are being sent more than 100 miles from home to get a swab. areas with fewer cases have had their capacity reduced in order to cope with outbreaks elsewhere. the government says it‘s investing 500 million pounds in trialling new tests that give quicker results. we can talk more now about coronavirus testing with the health

secretary matt hancock. a world beating testing regime, as we we re a world beating testing regime, as we were told and here we are with people still having to travel more than 100 miles for a test. you can‘t be happy with this. of course there are operational challenges in any enormous system like one that we have where we test around 200,000 people a day. it is one of the biggest testing systems in the world but, of course, i constantly want to improve it and that is why this morning we have announced £500 million, half £1 billion of investment into the new generation of test because while the testing system that we have at the moment is proving, is one of the biggest, i wa nt to proving, is one of the biggest, i want to firstly make it much bigger but also simpler for people. because at the moment you have to go to the drive—through and some people do have to travel if they are local

drive—through is full and people would understand why that is the case. but the next generation of tests do not need a swab to be taken and sent to the lab and return. you can get the results rapidly. in the case of one that we are rolling out from today, you get the result within 20 minutes. so, absolutely i wa nt to within 20 minutes. so, absolutely i want to continue to improve the system but frankly over the last six months we have built a vast testing capability and i pay tribute to all those who have worked with me to make that happen. i am sure people will work that might welcome the news about the trailing of the rapid testing that if you are one of our viewers who has been in touch this morning. someone in london who was told they had to go to south wales told they had to go to south wales to get a test today. someone in cumbria says they have to go to dumfries and another london person told to go to leicester or birmingham airport. she describes this as shameful and does not understand why it cannot be done closer to home. you are looking at

operational difficulties in challenging this and for her it is a five hour round trip. that is not an operational difficulty, it is a nightmare. the home testing route is also available. and it is true that we put a huge amount of testing into the areas of outbreak where the numbers of cases are much higher and i would say that if people need a test, the vast majority get it quickly and close to home but when those testing centres are full then obviously people are offered a test at the nearest place where one is available and we have got significant demand for testing but we also have a very high capacity. in any huge system like this of course there are operational challenges, as i mentioned, but i also want to solve the problem by having the next generation test at a

radically bigger scale and you can do that, you cannot do that on the current technology easily. we can keep expanding it and we are but i wa nt to keep expanding it and we are but i want to reach a point where we have a new generation where you do not need to send the thing off to the laboratory and effectively the laboratory and effectively the laboratory is in the back of a van and can go to the people who need the test, exactly as your viewers are saying. so that is being trialled in salford where we are right now and also in parts of hampshire full but how long will it be before that kind of technology, that rapid testing result will be available for everybody across the uk? that is little consolation, knowing that it exists in a few trials as little consolation when you were told to do a five hour round trip today. i would say that the most important message to your viewers is that if you have symptoms you should go and get a test and the vast majority of tests are available

at the testing centre closest to you. but my question is when is that rapid testing that you trial and announced today, the multi—million pound announcement, when will that be widely universally available? 0ver be widely universally available? over the coming weeks and months. we are starting the rollout today. over the coming weeks and months. we are starting the rollout todaym is not very specific is it when we look ahead to a winter with a possible second wave, weeks and months sounds vague. can we be more specific? know because i am relying on brand—new technology. we are working with the companies so they can manufacture these kits as fast as possible. we support them with the funding that i have announced today. all the way through this virus i have been expanding the testing programme and i absolutely drive this as fast as is humanly possible. what i will not do when there are 100 different companies we work with, we are able to talk about

three today where we have verified those tests and i will be bringing more on and more onstream as fast as we possibly can. but it is important in the reporting of this as well, i know this morning then uses leading on some of these operational challenges the vast majority of people at a test easily and it has turned around so you get the result the next day or you can get one at home and the important message for your viewers is if you have symptoms your viewers is if you have symptoms you must get a test. and that means we are able to find more and more of the cases that are in the country and this helps us to suppress the virus because at the moment the numbers in the cases of coronavirus are broadly flat stop that is not true in many countries and that is partly down to our testing and tracing capability and, critically, the behaviour of the public. if you have symptoms, please come forward to get a test. it is

straightforward, it is easy and the vast majority of people do get one. the trouble is that it is the beginning of september and we have not even got to flu season and cold season and, already we have people having to drive 100 miles to get a test. you said that this new science will be available in the weeks and months but you don‘t know when. how can we as a public have confidence that this testing regime is going to operate successfully and at capacity, properly, during this winter? you can see that firstly by the fact that we have, in the past six months, this enormous system that we have today. secondly, by the fa ct that we have today. secondly, by the fact that the vast majority of people get their test result close to home or at home and that the vast majority, over 90%, get the result either the same day or the next day. but this is just the beginning either the same day or the next day. but this isjust the beginning of the season. this isjust

but this isjust the beginning of the season. this is just the beginning of the autumn and winter season. the demand is clearly going to increase in weeks and months ahead and if you cannot cope at the moment, how will the copen in 0ctober moment, how will the copen in october november decemberjanuary? it is all well reading out the months of the year but what i can tell you is that the reason we are putting half £1 billion into the next generation test is precisely to make sure that, come winter, we have the testing capability not only to ensure that, as now, everybody who has the symptoms can get a test but, also, to make sure that we have a mass testing capability so that we can find the virus wherever it is and also give the test to people so that if they test negative they can have confidence to get back to the things that make life worth living. absolutely i recognise the challenge and infact absolutely i recognise the challenge and in fact i am the first to say

that testing is an absolutely critical part of our response and i have personally driven this enormous expansion in our testing capability. you are quite right and expanding that further over the autumn is absolutely critical and so i am delighted that we are putting in the extra resources now and, crucially, working with the brand—new technologies, sometimes before they are even in manufacture, that if you are, if you then ask me to give an a nswer are, if you then ask me to give an answer about when a new technology comes on stream at a scale that they are not even yet manufacturing and i am telling you the honest truth which is that as a nation we are putting more effort into this than almost anywhere else in the world, we are going as fast as humanly possible. what about the here and now? what about airports? many

people in the tourism and aviation industries, holidaymakers are saying why don‘t you just do what many people were suggesting weeks ago, test at the airports as people return rather than have them driving across the country to have its what they can? and there is a good reason that we don‘t do that and that is that we don‘t do that and that is that the virus incubates in you and, therefore, if you test on day one of return, the scientist believe that we find only about 7% of the total cases. so you still have to quarantine and in fact countries around the world that have introduced this testing on arrival are now moving away from it and doing testing much later because it does not clinically work. so this country, we have introduced this quarantine policy and i know that it was controversial when we introduced it by god i am glad that we did because if you see the cases going up because if you see the cases going up in france, spain even in germany, the case numbers are going up and we

have had to, in the case of france and spain, take that action to have the quarantine policy in place. it is an incredibly important policy because it is protecting this country and keeping us safe. and i will not undermine the actions that are needed to keep us safe. 0f course i get pressure from the airline industry who understandably are having a really difficult time. but we have got to keep people safe from this virus. what about taking people with you over the weeks and months ahead? people with you over the weeks and months ahead ? because people with you over the weeks and months ahead? because we have had so many big announcements from the government on all kinds of policy areas in recent weeks and months which have ended up with a u—turn. facemasks, free school meals, the algorithm and the exams. isn‘t it difficult to keep public confidence, to lead the nation through this when you have got the beginnings of a credibility problem? one of the

reasons that i refuse to your kind invitation to put a date on when mass testing will be available —— available because it is impossible to know because the machines have yet to be built, i don‘t want, then, to come on this programme in a few months time and point your finger and wag it at me and say you did not hit that goal. but i ask you that because that is what people want to know. but that wider point about u—turns, about policy changes again and again and again in recent months. it is a concern isn‘t it? have your own senior backbenchers says it too it looks like this government licks its finger and sticks it in the air to see which way the wind is blowing. that is one of your own mps. people understand and your viewers understand and they say this to me all the time, people understand that we are in an

unprecedented situation, we are dealing with a virus that we increasingly know more about and we are also dealing with a virus that suddenly expands in areas and we get a whole outburst of cases, whether it isa a whole outburst of cases, whether it is a country or a part of this country. therefore we have to take action. and if the numbers change then, of course, we change the action and we move swiftly and decisively to do what is necessary to control the virus. if jeremy corbyn had won the election and was in power now and had changed his policy as many times as you guys have over the last few weeks, what would you be saying about his leadership in the way he is running the country? thank goodness that jeremy corbyn is not running the country. that is what i am saying. because we are using all of the science available. we are using all of the resources of the country, public and private sector working closely together to do everything we possibly can to both keep people

safe and also restore some of the freedoms, get people back to work and back to school which i am glad to see is happening everywhere in the country this week. and to the people getting back to britain or heading off on holiday from britain right now to portugal, to greece, i wonder what the policy will be on that and quarantining when they come back. how is that looking? is portugal likely to be back on the quarantine list in the next few days? we make a formal announcement once a week on this and so i do not wish to prejudge that by announcing it on your show even though i would love to. but it is looking quite likely if you look at the data. what i would say is that it is very much data driven and you are right to raise that. it is very much driven by data and it is a decision that we ta ke by data and it is a decision that we take and if we have to introduce quarantine we do that with a heavy heart. the people should not travel

u nless heart. the people should not travel unless they are prepared, if the situation changes in the country they are going to, if they are not prepared to quarantine and we will make a formal announcement very shortly. thank you forjoining us on brea kfast. 7:45am is the time. we are talking about lionel messi, will he, won‘t he? the biggest question is what the biscuit negotiation will be. i am not letting go of biscuits today. i am obsessed. you never let go of the biscuits. i don't show them either. iam afraid biscuits. i don't show them either. i am afraid i‘ll have to do more research into which biscuits are the table. leave it with me. we are very well connected down here in the bbc sport bureau, but you are right, naga. it‘s the transfer saga of the summer. will lionel messi leave barcelona? and could hejoin manchester city? well, his dad, who‘s also his agent, has held talks with the club

and more are to follow as they try to come to an agreement. but it could be tricky and here‘s why — 623 million pounds. that‘s the minimum release fee that barcelona believe they are due if he wants to leave the club. but messi and his team believe a clause in his contract means he can walk out for free. so plenty to haggle over there. well if a club did manage to sign him, you‘d probably have to pay him around 54 million a year — that‘s what he currently earning at barcelona. so not a cheap deal at all. why? well, because he has won it all. six world footballer of the year titles — or ballon d‘0rs, four champions leagues, then just the ten la liga titles and he‘s barca‘s all—time record goalscorer with 634 goals! some big numbers there.

so will he go? well, it‘s understood messi‘s keen to reunited with former barcelona manager pep guardiola at manchester city. and andy mitton, a spanish football journalist based in barcelona has been following developments closely. he‘s interviewed messi many times before, and believes he definitely on his way out. he‘s got absolutely nothing else left to prove. there will be a statue of him, no doubt, outside kamau. but it seems to have gone cold —— camp nou. there are counter accusations, it is starting to get ugly from both sides. we will of course be keeping a close eye on that in the coming days and weeks. britain‘s kyle edmund had it all to do at the us open last night and, despite a strong start, he couldn‘t get past the world number one novak djokovic who remains unbeaten in 2020. edmund did take the first set on a tie—break to spark hopes of a shock win, but djokovic rediscovered his touch and took the next two sets 6—3, 6—4. and then broke the british number

two at the start of the fourth before wrapping up the match — he‘s chasing an 18th grand slam title. while edmund is out, cameron norrie‘s stay in new york continues. he‘s into the third round of a grand slam for the first time in his career after beating argentine federico coria in straight sets. top women‘s seed karolina pliskova is out. she lost 6—1, 7—6 to world number 50 caroline garcia of france. meanwhile, the 2018 champion naomi 0saka‘s continued her protest against racial inequality in the us by wearing the names of african—americans killed in police custody. herface mask read elijah mcclain — in tribute to the 23—year—old who died last summer after being detained. and there‘s a british rider wearing

cycling‘s famous yellow leaders jersey at the tour de france after the man who was in possession of it was penalised for taking a drink at the wrong time. julian alaphilippe in yellow, in the middle of your screen, you can see him stretching out to take a bottle from a team—member. well, the thing is you‘re not allowed to do that in the final 20 kilometres of a stage. so the frenchman got a 20 second penalty which means adam yates inherited the overall lead, moving him to the top of the podium. he‘s only the ninth british rider to lead the race. do you know what i like about that? he said it was not really the way i wa nt to he said it was not really the way i want to get the yellow jersey, he said it was not really the way i want to get the yellowjersey, want to win advance square. eye was planning to win the six stage anyway, but whatever, i was going to win it anyway —— when it fair and square. i don't know if you know the a nswer square. i don't know if you know the answer for square. i don't know if you know the answerfor this. when square. i don't know if you know the answer for this. when you think the last 20 kilometres, they are the toughest, and that is when you would really wa nt toughest, and that is when you would really want a drink. that is probably why. it is the ultimate test. no drinks, it isjust rider against rider. why is that? why are the restrictions on when you can and

can't drink? for the reasons she just said. i don't know. they have never ridden the tour de france myself. really, you are reporting on and you have never done it? how ridiculous... i have goes in john beeley health secretary either... weight, give it time —— weight and give it time. —— john weight, give it time —— weight and give it time. ——john bb. see you soon. take care. having a coffee at the wrong time. six months after stepping back from royal life, harry and meghan have signed a multi—year deal with the us streaming giant, netflix. the duke and duchess of sussex, who now live in california, will be producing — and possibly starring in — documentaries, feature films, and children‘s programmes. we‘re joined now by vanity fair‘s royal correspondent katie nicholl. katie, thank you for your time this morning. are you surprised by this announcement? am i surprised? nothing about this couple surprises me anymore. no, i‘m not surprised by

this. it is not any great secret when they moved to california that this was going to be a genre that they were certainly going to dip their toes into and they have really dived into headfirst, as have netflix who reported to have signed a deal of up to $150 million just to sign the couple up full the simple fa ct sign the couple up full the simple fact is, after stepping down from the royalfamily, fact is, after stepping down from the royal family, they fact is, after stepping down from the royalfamily, they had fact is, after stepping down from the royal family, they had to find a way to make money. eye reported in vanity fairjust way to make money. eye reported in vanity fair just last week that one of the players which had been public speaking was very much on hold because in this global pandemic they can‘t be doing public speaking and tv production was very much the production they planned to be going on. so the netflix deal isn‘t a surprise, but certainly a source of great surprise and happiness for the couple, to say this is the opportunity this —— they have been waiting for is an understatement. opportunity this —— they have been waiting for is an understatementm is interesting, because the 0bamas have a similar deal and they say

their focus for the programmes they wa nt to their focus for the programmes they want to make is reflecting real people, real lives, and in areas of the united states that perhaps haven‘t had a light shone on them, so to speak. what kind of subject matter do you think the sussexes will be taking on? i think it is interesting you point to the 0bamas, because that is a model the sussexes are aspiring to. not only has the netflix deal the 0bamas very much in the public profile since leaving office, it is also endemic huge income and that is something that both meghan and harry want to do. in terms of contact day —— contact i‘m told don‘t expect the kardashians. that will not happen. but you can expect documentaries, programming about environmentalism, civil rights, the black lives matter campaign, which they are —— have very closely affiliated themselves with. in these assorted passion projects we have seen them do and get involved with since stepping down from the royal family are very

much the sort of things they will be focusing on through their content and their programme making. again, i‘m told, meghan is not returning to acting. we may see them in front of the camera particularly when it comes to raising documentaries, something meghan did not that long ago narrating the netflix. just manage expectations. it is not going to be the kardashians, it is going to be the kardashians, it is going to be the kardashians, it is going to bea to be the kardashians, it is going to be a very different type of original content. also worth pointing out, from what they have been briefed, they will be heavily involved with the content. this is reduction through to what you see on the screen and they are going to manage that very closely. mental health as well is something you can expect to see them making programmes and documentaries about. expect to see them making programmes and documentaries aboutm expect to see them making programmes and documentaries about. it is interesting you are saying that they are using the 0bamas as a model for their foray into production and television and programme making. who is mentoring them? who are the influences with them or over them, who are they getting guidance from

at the moment? they have a very tightknit team over there. and i think, as well as the professional tea m think, as well as the professional team surrounding them, they are certainly taking advice, if not from the 0bamas themselves, they denied giving the couple any advice, but i think it is almost unfathomable that they would not have had discussions, particularly that the netflix deal so closely mirrors the deal the 0bamas side. in their new community they have eleanor generous, 0prah winfrey as neighbours. they are plugged in to a very powerful and influential and successful neighbour —— helander generous. there will be turning to these people to help them navigate, particularly prince harry, and make sure it is a success. the one thing is they need to make this a success, they need to make money when they stepped down from the royalfamily in when they stepped down from the royal family in march, when they stepped down from the royalfamily in march, one of when they stepped down from the royal family in march, one of the major reasons for doing so was to become financially independent of the royal family. and

become financially independent of the royalfamily. and they become financially independent of the royal family. and they cannot survive on thin air. they need to earn money. i am told that everything they do and that in includes this will be respectful to the institution of the monarchy and to harry‘s family and i think that is very important because people will be watching their next move very carefully and they will know that everything they do will be very much scrutinised and closely watched. because it needs to be in keeping with that respectful tone to the monarchy. a quick word on spotify, there is a rumour that perhaps there may be a deal with spotify as well. what would that look like? i have heard rumours of the spotify deal. harry is a big music fan. that is no secret. i‘m sure he has a spotify account. we know they also love watching netflix together. as i said at the start, nothing would surprise me with this couple, and i would roll out nothing. if spotify are going to of a lucrative deal that is in keeping with what they want to do, then i would say it is a possibility. katie

nicholl, vanity fair correspond. thank you forjoining us this morning. watch and listen to this space. 7:35am. carol has the weather. she was going to give us a lovely picture of cornwall. a vista across a baby, and what we get? fog. it does make across the bay. you made critical comments about my's photography skill and you have put real. this is all nonsense. cornwall is beautiful in any weather as you can see from my‘s lovely picture. is beautiful in any weather as you can see from my's lovely picture. we can't see, can we? if they get out of the way... move a bit more that way. a bit more. thank you very much, naga and john. good morning to you. is not just much, naga and john. good morning to you. is notjust cornwall that is quite foggy. mist in the isle of wight, southern areas are seeing a fair bit of cloud and murky conditions and rain. north of that, for the rest of us, it will be a blustery day with sunshine and also

showers. this is a weather front thatis showers. this is a weather front that is producing a fair bit of cloud and rain not only on the weather front but a lot of cloud ahead of it as well. through the course of the day that weather front will sink southwards, eventually, much later in the day, clearing the far south of england. but we have another weather front across the north—west enhancing showers. if you look at the isobars that tells you some brisk winds. we will have gusts of wind today with exposure in the north—west of up to 45 mph. in the northern isles later, 50 mph. there goes the weather front with its increasingly behind have a mixture of sunshine and showers. some of the showers will be heavy as denoted by the greens and yellows. with the brisk south—westerly winds, we will see the many west of scotland and northern ireland, there would be blowing eastwards. some as far as eastern england coming across parts of wales. you can see in between all the showers there is a lot of dry weather and a fair bit of sunshine. temperatures today, 14 anna lo

worker to about 21 in london and norwich. through the evening and overnight there goes the weather front into the south, taking the cloud into the channel islands. behind there will be areas of cloud but also clear skies and still the showers coming in in the brisk south—westerly wind. temperature wise, 11—14, so not quite as mild a night as the one just gone. but it won‘t feel particularly cold if you out early outdoors. tomorrow, the weather front going down was the channel islands, it looks like it will turn around and come back in through the south—west, pushing down to was south—east, taking the rain with it. the northern extent of this could well change. if you have outdoor plans to keep watching the weather forecast. you can outdoor plans to keep watching the weatherforecast. you can also outdoor plans to keep watching the weather forecast. you can also see north of that we are looking at a mixture of rate spells, will be cloudy at times, with some showers and also some sunshine. still a brisk wind blowing some showers towards the east. some of them, particularly in western scotland and

northern ireland, could be heavy and thundery. by saturday, we have a ridge of high pressure building and across southern areas so things fairly settled. low pressure to scotland, introducing again some showers, and still quite windy conditions. when having viewed to a north—westerly, a cooler direction for us. temperatures 11—17. the temperatures are going down. as we head on into sunday, overnight saturday into sunday we will have a feature coming across northern ireland, scotland, north—west england and wales and through sunday that will be pushing showers heading steadily southwards. in between those showers some bright skies, even sunshine. behind those showers we will also see some sunshine stop but still on the cold go with highs up but still on the cold go with highs up to 18. the headlines are coming up up to 18. the headlines are coming up next.

good morning, welcome to breakfast with naga munchetty and jon kay. 0ur headlines today: people in some areas are having to travel more than 100 miles for coronavirus tests. the government says it‘s spending more to speed up testing. a 14—day quarantine awaits passengers travelling from greece to scotland from this morning. 0ur passengers leaving liverpool for greece and portugal playing quarantine roulette? the boss of peter ssl. what does that mean for insurance and for refunds? i will be

asking the experts —— the boss of heathrow says so. russia faces international demands for an explanation after germany said there is proof that one of president putin‘s leading critics, alexei navalny, was poisoned with the nerve—agent, novichok. newjoy for the parents of charlie gard — three years after their first son died during a legal battle over medical treatment. charlie definitely did have a massive part to play in making sure his brother was healthy and making us happy because after we lost charlie, it felt like a part of us died with him. it‘s thursday, the 3rd of september. our top story: the rising demand for coronavirus tests in some areas has led to appointments being rationed, and some people are being sent more than 100 miles from home to get a swab. areas with fewer cases have had their capacity reduced in order to cope with outbreaks elsewhere. the government says it‘s investing

£500 million in trialling new tests that give quicker results. we‘re joined now by our political correspondent, iain watson. we spoke to matt hancock a short while ago. he was responding to the frustrations over some testing? yes, he was. there are indeed frustrations for people trying to get the drive—through test. home tests are still available, but some people have been finding, especially in areas where the virus perhaps peaked early, such as london, that they have been offered tests up to 135 miles away, in cardiff on the isle of wight, with some people in cumbria are being offered tests in scotland. the reason for that, the department of health says, is because they are moving resources to areas where there are outbreaks or they are targeting people who might be most at risk from a serious form of the disease, which means that where there is less prevalent is, there is less testing capacity although at a national level, the

testing capacity for 350,000 tests a day remains constant. that capacity is likely to go up, but the health secretary matt hancock was keen to emphasise on this programme earlier that he was interested in a new generation of testing. they are trialling much faster tests in southampton and salford. they will now be testing people perhaps on a weekly basis in the wider community, those who don‘t have symptoms, to get on top of this or to stem a second way. he was asked how quickly this can be ruled out —— rolled out to the rest of the country. he said they were working as quickly as they can. we are working with the company so can. we are working with the company so they can manufacture these kits as fast as possible. we are supporting them with the funding i have announced today. all the way through this virus, i have been expanding the testing programme and lam driving expanding the testing programme and i am driving this as fast as is humanly possible. but when there are

100 different companies we are working with, we are able to talk about three today where we have verified those tests, and i am going to be bringing more on stream as we can. so matt hancock was stressing that he is working as fast as he can, but one of his predecessors, jeremy hunt, says the whole population should be tested regularly. he wants to see much more swift action from the government, as does former prime minister tony blair, who has been talking about the need for universal testing. matt hancock‘s comments on quarantine we re hancock‘s comments on quarantine were interesting. he said thank god were interesting. he said thank god we introduced it, even though it was a controversial policy, and he put a huge amount of cold water on the idea that there could be airport testing to reduce the amount of time on quarantine. he said because of the incubation period, that would only pick up 7% of cases, and therefore, you cannot get away from quarantine, as i am sure we will be

hearing more about in a few minutes. we will be hearing about it a lot, iain. and it is not minutes, it is now. from today, people in scotland will have different travel quarantine rules from the rest of the uk. scottish holiday—makers returning from greece will now have to self—isolate for 14 days after new measures came in this morning. in wales, travellers returning from the greek island of zakynthos are also required to isolate. however, for england and northern ireland, greece is still exempt from the quarantine list. let‘s speak to our scotland correspondent, lorna gordon, who is at glasgow airport this morning. i suppose people flying in and flying out from there this morning are trying to adjust to these new rules ? are trying to adjust to these new rules? they were just announced a couple of days ago, as has become the norm. they come in very

suddenly. 0ne flight arrived here a couple of hours before the new quarantine rules kicked in. there is one flight due to depart to greece later this afternoon. so anyone from four o‘clock this morning who arrives back in scotland will have to quarantine for 14 days. holiday—makers we have spoken to who have been either still in greece or travelling back or planning to head out are pretty unhappy with it. they are suffering a lot of disruption, perhaps losing money. of course, the airports are also unhappy. they are calling it a blunt tool. they would like to see more testing introduced so that the 14 day quarantine rule could be reduced. the greek government are calling it disproportionate and harsh, and tour operators are talking of a hokey cokey operators are talking of a hokey co key of operators are talking of a hokey cokey of countries coming in, coming out, making it impossible for scots to plan any kind of break abroad. but the scottish government say this

is proportionate following a rise in the number of covid cases in people coming back from greece. 0f the number of covid cases in people coming back from greece. of course, nicola sturgeon, scotland‘s first minister, has all along warned people to think carefully before booking any holiday abroad. lorna gordon, thank you. we will speak in a few moments to a family who have to decide today whether they go to greece or don‘t. they are due to fly this afternoon. the russian government has denied accusations that its opposition leader, alexei navalny, was attacked with a nerve agent last month. it‘s after german authorities claimed they had "unequivocal proof" that the politician had been poisoned by novichok — the same chemical that was used in an attack in salisbury in 2018. on twitter, borisjohnson vowed to work with international partners to ensure justice is done. the wife of the policeman nick bailey, who was poisoned by the chemical in salisbury, responded by saying "actions speak louder than words".

president trump has come under fire for suggesting that people vote twice in the upcoming election — something that is illegal in the us. he made the comments in north carolina — and said voters there should test the state‘s system by attempting to vote once by mail and once in person. mr trump has been a vocal critic of postal voting, claiming it can lead to "tremendous fraud". cats will have the support for us. 0r cats will have the support for us. or maybe she should do the weather and carol can do the sport, i mix everything up. anyway, we will have the latest sport and weather shortly. three years ago, connie yates and chris gard were left heartbroken when their baby boy charlie died. the legal row over his treatment for a rare genetic condition had made headlines around the world. but last month

the family was given some hope again when charlie‘s little brother, 0lly, was born. breakfast‘s graham satchell has been to meet the family. as soon as i found out i was pregnant, ifelt happier. like i could smile again. and once he was here it was even better, really. i think, before, you would just plaster a smile on and say "i am 0k, i am 0k" all the time. but now i feel like i can smile and mean it. after we lost charlie, ijust could not ever imagine loving another boy like i did him. so when he was born, a lot of it was relief because i felt, again, like i did with charlie, an instant rush of love.

chris and connie‘s new son 0lly is one month old. he arrived the day after what would have been his brother‘s fourth birthday. all of it makes us feel like charlie had a hand in getting him here and getting him here safely. her contractions started on his birthday, about the time he was born, yeah, ijust feel that charlie did have a massive part to play in making sure he was healthy his brother was healthy and to make us happy again. after we lost charlie it just felt like a part of us died with him and we never thought we would be genuinely happy again. but we feel very lucky to be where we are now. charlie gard was born with a rare genetic disorder, mitochondrial dna depletion syndrome. he spent most of his short life in hospital. there was no cure for charlie‘s condition, but chris and connie wanted to try a new treatment in america. 0rmond street eventually decided that charlie‘s condition had deteriorated too much and any further

treatment would be futile. the case ended up in court. i think it is very hard to know what you would do unless you are in that situation yourself. but, you know, there was so much support that we did receive which we are eternally grateful for. yeah, it was a moral dilemma. what would you do if it were your child? you have a doctor offering treatment with a 50—60% chance of working, would you take your child for that treatment? we believed that most would, with those odds. the reality is that charlie can't see and he can't hear, he cannot move, he cannot cry, he cannot swallow. immensely sadly, his condition is one that affords him no benefit. charlie‘s parents took their fight to the supreme court and then the european court, but lost. our son is an absolute warrior and we could not be prouder of him and we will miss him terribly. his body, heart and soul may soon be gone, but his spirit will live on for eternity and he will make a difference to people's

lives for years to come, we will make sure of that. you look up at this judge and it is like you are on tv and they are up high as if they are a god making a decision about your child and it is very difficult. i can‘t even put it into words, really. we will always live with the "what if". what if charlie had been given treatment when we asked for it and what would have happened if so much time had not been dragged out in court? we have to live with that. as long as something coming judgment positive comes out of his life, that is what matters. and we will try to find a treatment for the disease that took him from us so we try to make sure it is all positive now. chris and connie raised over £1 million for charlie‘s treatments. they now use that money to fund research into rare genetic disorders. to hear in 2020 that there is a disease you cannot

even try anything for, there is no hope whatsoever, you know, cancer is devastating but usually there is a little hope with that at least. so we want to change that. there is not enough money put into research and there is hardly any treatment, literally just a handful, so hopefully, we can be a part of that change. the search for an effective treatment will be a key part of charlie‘s legacy. there was a chance that chris and connie‘s new son would also inherit the genetic disorder but thankfully, he is healthy. we are just so blessed to have him. there's some parents out there who can't have children at all and there are parents who have lost more than one child to a genetic condition and the fact that we lost one but have been given the chance for another, a healthy baby, and to experience bringing up a child in trying to raise him into the best man he can possibly be, that is something we are looking forward to and it isjust a blessing

we can try to gain and do the things we missed out on with poor little charlie. that was graham satchell reporting. lovely to see that family being so open and also seeing the joy of a new baby, and so many people can relate to that. it changes your life and turns it upside down. i hope they are getting some sleep.” and turns it upside down. i hope they are getting some sleep. i bet they are getting some sleep. i bet they are getting some sleep. i bet they are not, maybe we should go for another follow—up shortly. thanks to them. we will be joined another follow—up shortly. thanks to them. we will bejoined by richard osman later from pointless, them. we will bejoined by richard osman laterfrom pointless, and them. we will bejoined by richard osman later from pointless, and from everything. he has developed every format and now he has turned his attention to writing and written a novel, a murder mystery set in an old people‘s home. novel, a murder mystery set in an old people's home. it is good. it

has twists and turns. thank you for joining us. let‘s return now to our top story. from today, people arriving into scotland from greece will have to self—isolate for 14 days — that‘s despite fairly low levels of coronavirus cases there. usually, the government in westminster introduces quarantine measures when a country‘s infection rate exceeds 20 per 100,000 people in the past week. but the new rules introduced by the scottish government today come after several cases in scotland were traced back to popular tourist destinations in greece. people coming back to wales from the greek island of zakynthos are also being asked to quarantine for 14 days. but holiday—makers elsewhere in the uk can still travel to greece without needing to self—isolate on their return. meanwhile, portugal was removed from the uk‘s quarantine listjust two weeks ago, but the number of cases there has risen to more than 20 per 100,000 — which means measures could be reintroduced.

0ur europe correspondent gavin lee is at faro marina in the algarve this morning. you are enjoying some sunshine. nobody is offended at how you pronounce it, at least i hope not. but whole of portugal, you have around 14 cases out of every 100,000, so it fell below for the first time and it appeared on the safe corridor list. and then up to 30,000 british tourists come here. we understand there are about 25,000 british tourists who are still here, thatis british tourists who are still here, that is a figure we have been given so far. that means that because the government‘s latest scientific calculations have been fluctuating

but have been seeing a slight rise cases in portugal which has taken me over the 20 mark, about 21 out of every 100,000 cases. so the british ambassador in portugal has already hinted that people should be prepared for the unexpected, which has become the government mantra on people returning. and it is interesting. the british tourists i have spoken to are already working out what to do. they know the rumours. there are families i have spoken to who have bought extra flights on friday as well as keeping flights on friday as well as keeping flights later in the week and i have spent hundreds of pounds to do that. 0thers spent hundreds of pounds to do that. others say they can‘t afford it and say they believe they are being left in limbo. this september, the whole month is important to the portuguese economy, it is the second most important month. they call it silver season because the older tourists come when it is quieter and they have the street to themselves. the children are back at school and there is more time on the golf courses, so that is the issue. and

for the economy here, britain is the number one in terms of foreign tourists. so the worry is that it seems almost certain, but people are still waiting. gavin, obviously businesses are going to be frustrated. you were talking about it being the silver season, with lots of older people taking holidays in september. what is this situation like in portugal in terms of quarantine? here, there are some people who are sympathetic to those whose holiday plans are in limbo. 0thers whose holiday plans are in limbo. others say, look at the data, you have made the decision, at least you are getting a holiday, suck it up and see. i put that to a few british tourists who have said they were told this was a safe corridor and they didn‘t think that suddenly the doors were shut again and it would become a no—go zone. it is notjust about having to quarantine. this country then becomes a no—go zone to all but essential travel. it is a good point about what business

owners and local authorities and tourist bodies here believe about this quarantine measure. they point to the fact that no other country in europe is doing this to portugal, and they don‘t do it to other countries. germany focuses on specific regions and the tourism bodies here so please don‘t include the algarve. they have had six cases in the past 72 hours, very few. it is lisbon and porto where the bigger cases are, but we have had the government saying they are looking at things country by country, not region by region, and that doesn‘t seem likely to change. gavin, i am not jealous at all of the sunshine you are enjoying. nuttall. tom and caroljackson live in lanarkshire and are due to fly to greece today — but will scotland‘s new quarantine rules change their plans? let‘s find out. are you going to go? no, we are not

going to go. the decision is to stay and remain in rainy scotland.” going to go. the decision is to stay and remain in rainy scotland. i am sorry to hear that you‘re sunshine in september is cancelled. that must have been a difficult decision, carol. it has been, yeah. we only decides to go on friday after analysing that things were going to be ok, but we are both business owners, so be ok, but we are both business owners, so there is no way we can come back and quarantine for two weeks. tom, what did you think when you heard there was going to be this 14 day quarantine period for scottish holiday—makers coming back from anywhere in greece?” scottish holiday—makers coming back from anywhere in greece? i was very surprised, because the number was well below 20 in 100,000 people. it was 14.1, and it‘s very low, similar to scotland. so i was taken aback.

carol, nicola sturgeon says this is proportionate she is doing what she feels she has to do when she looks at the data to keep people in scotla nd at the data to keep people in scotland safe. i totally understand what the scottish government are doing. as your reporter was saying about portugal, it's about being specific. there are areas and islands which are really low, much lower than scotland. in fact, it is properly safe to be there than be in scotland at this point. can i ask you how much you spent on your holidays and are you going to get any of it back? we spent £1300 and as of yet, we don‘t seem to be getting it back because the quarantine was put in so late and also because it is not a uk—wide quarantine. so it doesn‘t seem that

we are going to get anything back. how does that make you feel, carol? it's a bit disappointing. we need to be safe, but i think it is totally unfair that because the scottish government have taken a decision rather than the uk government, we have been penalised for it. we were speaking to our correspondent gavin, who is in portugal. we raised the issue that there will be people watching this morning who have decided not to go abroad at all this year. they have decided for coronavirus reasons to stay put. do you accept the argument that you have taken a chance, and it has backfired but that is sadly the risk you knew you were taking this year? i guess it has always been a risk, yeah, but it's back to that point where the decisions made by devolved governments are not being recognised by the insurance companies and the

travel industry. so you were supposed to be flying to greece this afternoon. but tonight, you would have been sitting by the pool with a glass of something nice. what are you going to be doing instead in lanarkshire? what do you think? who knows? turn the heating up, that's for sure! open the windows. have you got any ouzo in the fridge? we have gin. all the best and i hope you get away somewhere safely in the future. cani away somewhere safely in the future. can ijust away somewhere safely in the future. can i just say, away somewhere safely in the future. can ijust say, scotland is probably my number one holiday destination. but if you have been looking forward to crete... i amjust but if you have been looking forward to crete... i am just saying, but if you have been looking forward to crete... i amjust saying, it's not the worst place to be stuck in, because it is stunning. but if you

have been pinning your hopes on that sunshine that we are not necessarily going to get in scotland today, it‘s a bit gutting when your bags are packed. i get it, but that is one of the things people are debating. it‘s not about sympathy, it‘s about how much understanding there is about the fact that you are getting to go on holiday anyway and if you have the time off, you can enjoy it. and for some of those who are able to work from home, it is ok, it is those who can‘t guarantee their income. the jackson family were in scotland, where they know there are going to be these quarantine restrictions in place for people coming back from greece. but of course, there are people across the uk who are wondering in the other nations how this is going to affect them. in wales if you are coming back from za kynthos them. in wales if you are coming back from zakynthos in greece, you are going to have to quarantine, but what about england and northern

ireland? nina is at liverpool airport this morning, as holiday—makers head to greece not knowing if they will have to self—isolate when they return to england. first thing this morning, we saw some passengers ready to go but kind ofa some passengers ready to go but kind of a bit unsure. you have been talking to quite a few people today and hearing their frustrations. yeah, and it‘s been a mixed picture. it has been fascinating talking to people this morning. really early when we arrived at 5.15, there were hundreds of passengers here on their way to some of the greek islands. some were also off to portugal and some of them were very excited. a group of lads to me said, this is a lads‘ holiday like any other year. there was an older couple who were retired but slightly concerned about the number rising where they were travelling to, but they said if they chose to cancel the holiday before the travel company cancelled it, they wouldn‘t get their money back, which is true. there are also

flights with rya nair which is true. there are also flights with ryanair going out to spain by the advice from the foreign & commonwealth office not to fly to spain. some people are saying, we are not sure where our insurance is on that, but we want to travel anyway. thank you for the questions you have got in touch with this morning. let‘s start with nicola from south wales. she says, my husband and i are travelling to catalonia in greece on sunday from bristol. we have worked through the pandemic and feel that we need to de—stress. she wants to know why there are regional variations and whether she should cancel. i have just been told we have a travel expert who can join us, lisa. just been told we have a travel expert who canjoin us, lisa. i was going to have a go at this, but i think you can do a more comprehensivejob of think you can do a more comprehensive job of it. let‘s start with that question from nicola in

south wales. she is due to go to kefalonia on sunday, travelling from bristol but she lives in south wales, said that as an interesting distinction. where does she stand if things change over the coming days? good morning. the key to all of this is, we have to see what the advice is, we have to see what the advice is and how things change. it may change this afternoon, when we are due more announcements. as things stand, she needs to sit tight, watch the foreign office advice, you can sign up to their website so you get the information instantly. because wales is in lockdown and because it has the ruling with regards to greece, it is important that she follows the advice of the welsh government because that is important even though the flight is

operational out of bristol. my advice is to follow the advice. sorry, i have things flashing on my screen, i apologise. sorry, i have things flashing on my screen, iapologise. it is sorry, i have things flashing on my screen, i apologise. it is not the clearest of screens. don't worry, we have all been there. and i guess wales brought in this distinction with zakynthos, so it can change depending where you are flying into and where your such destination is. this is a question from emma, who is due to travel to faro in portugal. her travel agent has said to her that because the flight is going ahead, even if the fco advise changes, she won‘t be able to get a refund. her insurance is through her bank. is that the case or can she get her cash back? depends how she booked it. if you booked it with a travel agent as a package, is a

fully fledged atol package, the travel agent has the liability tea to assist her. if you purchased flights separately to the accommodation and it is not based on accommodation and it is not based on a full package, she will need to consult with her travel insurers. you have to remember with insurance, at any time, not just because you have to remember with insurance, at any time, notjust because of this pandemic, but at any time, no travel insurance covers everything. never assume that it does. if it was booked in a package, she has the right to go back to the tour operator or travel agent to say they have a liability. if you booked it all separately, she should contact her insurers and see whether they are offering this sort of cover, and lots of them are not. it sounds awful to say, but it mayjust be deemed as a loss. but hopefully, she may have the opportunity of changing her flight booking, which could be

the key. thank you. that is the advice from lots of travel insurance we have heard this morning. they said if they had changed the booking, that would have incurred loss of expense. the boss of heathrow has called it quarantine roulette, going on holiday and not knowing if you have to self—isolate on your return. as lisa for saying, check your insurance. there is no insurance policy that we know that will cover you fully for every eventuality, unfortunately. but please carry on getting in touch. it's please carry on getting in touch. it‘s an anxious time for lots of people who have saved and invested in what should be something relaxing, but it is not turning out that way for everyone. you are watching bbc breakfast, still to come... we‘ll be meeting jasper, the cockapoo therapy dog who‘s one of the "corona heroes" switching on the blackpool illuminations tomorrow. we ll be discussing that

shortly and bringing you the latest news. now let‘s get the weather with carol. that‘s more like it. that's more like it. you have been listening for once! how dare you! it has taken all morning to get that face of outrage from carol! i was suggesting a few moments ago that the jacksons who had to cancel their trip to greece might be sad that they are in lanarkshire, and i was getting told off that scotland would not be sunny, but i was wrong. absolutely! this is midlothian, the sun is out already, there will be sunshine across parts of scotland. but there will be showered as well. the weather front bringing showers with it, sinking south. behind that, breezy and sherry but with sunshine

in between. this weatherfront breezy and sherry but with sunshine in between. this weather front is bringing the weather front we have at the moment, and murky conditions particularly in the south—west. here, visibility is poor, especially in cornwall. all around this band of rain, which is continuing to sink southwards, there is a lot of cloud, and there is a lot of cloud ahead of it as well. in the south, one or two brighter breaks but the emphasis will be on cloud with patchy rain. on the other side of the weather front, a mixture of bright spells, sunshine, and some showers. but strong, gusty winds across the north—west of scotland with exposure, 45 miles per hour, 50 later, in the northern isles. even inland, a brisk breeze today. temperatures, 15—21 . through the evening and overnight, there goes our weather front thinking south, taking the cloud into the channel islands. behind that, clearskies,

areas of cloud and showers on the brisk breeze. some of those will be blown towards the east. not a cold night, overnight low 9—13, but not as mild as this morning. top to toe at the moment it is 12—18. tomorrow, the weather front thinking south pivots, rejuvenates and slips towards the south taking rain with it. the northern edge of this could change so if you have outdoor plans tomorrow, check the weather forecast. behind the weather front, dry weather, a fair bit of sunshine and still showers, blowing in from the west towards the east on a brisk wind. the showers across western scotla nd wind. the showers across western scotland and northern ireland could be heavy and thundery, and it will sta rts be heavy and thundery, and it will starts to cool down a touch. top temperature, 19 degrees. into the weekend, we have the azores high building, low pressure in the north close to scotland means we have

breezy conditions here with fewer showers. south—east, one ortwo showers, but a lot of sunshine to enjoy. have a good day. hello, this is breakfast with naga munchetty and jon kay. it is 8:34am, thank you forjoining us. the widow of pc andrew harper has met the home secretary to discuss a proposed new law which would see criminals who kill emergency workers jailed for life. lissie harper‘s campaign began after her husband was killed when he was dragged behind a getaway car last august. three teenagers were jailed for a total of 42 years for his manslaughter. priti patel has said she‘s committed to harper‘s law. lissie harperjoins us now from oxfordshire. good morning to you, thank you so much for your time today. my first question to you is, how are you? it's question to you is, how are you? it‘s just been just over a year now

since andrew was awfully killed, how are you? yeah, i'm keeping going. it's are you? yeah, i'm keeping going. it‘s been a very surreal year, but i finally have something to focus on andi finally have something to focus on and i think that makes dealing with the everyday grief slightly easier to bear, i suppose. it's interesting, you talk about having something to focus on and this is something to focus on and this is something which has been picked up something which has been picked up so publicly, and now you have taken it and gone to speak to the home secretary priti patel, you spoke to her yesterday, can you tell me how that conversation went? the meeting yesterday was really good, a chilly. it was quite an important thing for harper‘s law to get the sit down with the home secretary and the justice secretary. it was really positive, clearly they agree with what we are trying to do and offering their support. it‘s just amazing. i think it is a shared

thing, with so many people, that we need a change now. and that‘s something that we, going forward, will hopefully be able to achieve. do you want to tell me for anyone who is not aware, what exactly this law will entail and what it means? basically, if a person should go out to commita basically, if a person should go out to commit a crime and as a result of that crime, a police officer, nurse, doctor, paramedic or a prison officer should be killed, as a result of that crime, then this person should spend their life in prison, basically. and that‘s what harper‘s law will do, and it will involve a harper‘s law will do, and it will involvea minimum harper‘s law will do, and it will involve a minimum term, so that‘s something that we have been discussing with the government to see how that will actually work. what happened to those who were responsible for the death of your husband, andrew? sorry, can you

repeat that? what's happened in terms of sentencing for those who are responsible for the death of your husband, andrew? they got a very insufficient sentence, in my opinion. andrew‘s life has been taken and in less than ten years they will be out their crime filled lives, to me, that‘s not good enough. wejust lives, to me, that‘s not good enough. we just showed them pictures of those who were convicted of the death of your husband, and there was no sign of remorse there. and i know you have spoken, ijust wondered if you have spoken, ijust wondered if you would tell me how you feel about the fact that the sentencing you feel wasn‘t enough, but the fact that their reactions, there was no contrition there? i think with people like this, it is in a way no surprise that they have no remorse. they live by a different set of

rules, law abiding people in the rest of the country, we don‘t live like that. and if somebody was killed because of something we had done, then we would be horrified. and there just wasn‘t any of that with them. and i think thatjust also goes to show that there clearly isn‘t the deterrent that we need for people committing crime. less than ten yea rs people committing crime. less than ten years in prison for taking someone‘s life is just, ten years in prison for taking someone‘s life isjust, well, frankly, ridiculous. i know you were very keen to explain to priti patel how that made you feel. what was her reaction to that? priti patel is, you know, clearly very supportive of, especially, the police force. and she agrees that this just isn‘t right, and that we need to offer more protection to our emergency services. and i think together that‘s something that we can really make some positive changes with. when you talk to others, because you

have complete support, i think of the police federation, which represents 100,000 rank and file of offices. when you speak to the police federation and you hear experiences from them, they have lost colleagues, what do they tell you about the importance of what you are doing now? well, only yesterday i had police officers coming up to me and saying, well done for what you are doing, thank you, and that just means everything. because i‘ve got a lot of friends in the police force as well, and the stories are just awful. far too often, people in the line of duty are attacked, and occasionally killed, but it‘s just really common. and that‘s just not acceptable. that‘s why, you know, with harper‘s law, we will give them that protection, hopefully. lissie, you are in a position where

u nfortu nately you you are in a position where unfortunately you now know a lot more about this and the kinds of people who are responsible for andrew‘s death, your husband‘s death. when you talk about that now and you talk to those who are also affected by those, do you think, is it something andrew was prepared for, is it something that he feared? i think with anyjob like that, there are risks. but andrew was the type of person who wanted to protect people, and he felt a sense of duty. whether there were consequences of that, he would have done that time and time again. that‘s why these people running towards danger to protect the public, it‘s why we need to really appreciate what they do for us and put things in place to give them some kind of protection and if necessary justice. give them some kind of protection and if necessaryjustice. do you think, used the word consequences, do you think that this will be

enough other deterrents to make those who are perhaps lawless or don‘t care to conforming to society‘s decent rules, will make them think twice? i think it will, yeah. because other people in that position, the family of the defendants in andrew‘s case, will probably be thinking, they have taken someone‘s life but they are just going away for a few years and then they will be out again. i think there really isn‘t that much that we can do for our emergency services to give them protection, and to maybe make some kind of deterrent. this is something that we can do, and that‘s why it‘s just so vital. something that we can do, and that‘s why it'sjust so vital. lissie, we started the interview asking how you wear, tell me what life looks like for you now. because you are a campaign and now, you are talking to the home secretary, your breakfast television and media outlets campaigning fora television and media outlets campaigning for a change to the law.

other than that, how is life for you in terms of moving forward? life is very different for me now, yeah. i have had to kind of learn how to be a different person, in a way. and that‘s really hard. grief in itself is just that‘s really hard. grief in itself isjust a that‘s really hard. grief in itself is just a mammoth thing to experience and a journey to go through. but this is something i am really passionate about and making sure it is achieved this important, and doing something for somebody else and for andrew‘s colleagues and the rest of the emergency services just gets me that little, you know, thing to kind of hold onto and something that i can do for andrew. i hope you do some things for you as well, lissie, and there is a order for you. good luck with everything you are doing, hope to talk to you

again, take care. thank you. thousands of pupils in england and wales returned to the classroom yesterday for the first time since lockdown began in march. everyone is getting back to normal with the race to find your satchel and irona with the race to find your satchel and iron a shirt and tie! it is daunting enough going back to school. on your first day. who daunting enough going back to school. on yourfirst day. who knows what it would have looked like? our reporter has been spending a lot of time in school is looking at how they are preparing so she spent a day in one secondary school in shropshire and finding out more. good morning. how are you doing? it‘s their first day back, but for these year sevens it‘s also their first day at secondary school. and with so many safety changes too, there are mixed feelings. good morning. are you all right, girls? it was a bit of a stretch waking up early to go to school. i‘ve been feeling excited to come

back to school because we‘ve been off for so long. i'm a bit nervous, but i'm not as nervous because i'm doing it with everyone else. it‘s been six weeks and i‘m actually really nervous. are you? and why are you nervous? because there‘s lots of new people and i‘m in a new area. you're going to have a proper tour, not a virtual tour, a proper tour of the school. year seven are the first to return to sirjohn talbot‘s, with the full school back by friday. arrivals are staggered with form groups led in one at a time. all the form groups are now in their classrooms, they‘ve all hand sanitised on the way in, and they‘re being shown a video which they wouldn‘t normally do, which is all about health and safety measures, where they can go, the one—way system, and they also have a planner, which they would normally get, and this time it provides lots of information on health and safety. so there is a lot to take in. a tape marks where the teacher can stand to observe social distancing. with each year forming a bubble and moving from one class to the next at the same time.

the school advice here is to wear masks in corridors and communal spaces indoors and most seem to be. with so much to take in, the first break time is a chance to relax. it‘s actually going really well. the teacher is really, really friendly. and i‘m with most of my friends so it‘s really comfortable and i‘ve settled in really well. actually, i'm feeling pretty happy. i'm glad to be back, to be honest with you. it's quite isolating to be at home and teaching online is really not the same as having the children. a recent survey suggests children in england after three months behind in england are three months behind in their studies, so catching up is key. it‘s something the new head here is aware of. over time in this term we‘re confident that what will go on in the classroom will help to identify where there may be students who have fallen behind and then, where we need to, we will put the plans in place, either through the classroom

or beyond the classroom where needed. you‘ve been in his profession for 20 years, it‘s actually your first year as head of school. what kind of challenges are you facing? the scale of what we have been through as a profession is significant. we are conscious that there is now potentially going to be further transmission as a consequence of schools reopening and we play our part in society within that. the lunch menu is similar to before but students aren‘t allowed to stay in the canteen. but the damp weather doesn‘t seem to be putting them off. back in class and the last subject is maths. so is it ten out of ten for school? it‘s been really fun, like, meeting new teachers and everyone and making new friends. i'm excited to go back home and then i'm actually really sad, because i've really enjoyed it today. what's changed is i've actually got to know people very well and i feel

so much better and no nerves. they've all gone. that‘s the first day done, just the rest of the year to go now. geeta pendse, bbc news, whitchurch. back to school was never like that before, was it? the thing i used to love about back to school, which won‘t surprise you... love about back to school, which won't surprise you... i to bet you we re won't surprise you... i to bet you were first at the gates, shining shoes. i was always late! i loved putting together my pencil case and i loved packing my rucksack, and even now when i packed my work bag, i love rearranging it so it‘s nice and tidy. apple for the teacher? i used to being a nectarine in! good luck if you are back to school. an organised bag makes you feel better. it does! i bet you loved homework.”

did! switching on the blackpool illuminations is a job usually given to a celebrity guest but this year a number of "corona—heroes" will be helping to light up the promenade. with them will be cockapoo jasper. he‘s a therapy dog who works alongside his owner, chaplain david anderson, at blackburn hospital. together they‘ve been supporting critical care staff during the pandemic and we‘re joined by them now. both of them. good morning! how are you? i both of them. good morning! how are you ? i would both of them. good morning! how are you? i would talk to vet, david, but how is jasper this he‘s good,. you? i would talk to vet, david, but how is jasper this he's good,. he's good, he still working up a bit because it‘s a bit early for him, he normally starts working at 9:30am. —— he is still waking up a bit. normally starts working at 9:30am. -- he is still waking up a bit. what is work forjasper? he supports the staff. the staff devoted a lot of their time and energy and humanity during the pandemic, the other things are coming down they are

struggling. so they spend time with jasper, talking about their experiences as a small group and just getting some love.” experiences as a small group and just getting some love. i guess at the height of the pandemic when things were at their most critical, jasper would not have been able to go into the hospital at that point, but he still had to help in other ways. yes, before the pandemic, he is to visit the patients, especially people end of life. during the peak, i was doing zoom visits and end—of—life calls with families. now things are settled down, he‘s not on the wards but he is there for the staff, every day he is here supporting the staff, running sessions and giving them a chance to share their story and have some love and just a cuddle. we began the interview and asked how jasper was, i will ask how you are. so as a trust chaplain, nhs trust, you talk about end of life visits with families, that is so much to take

on. because you‘re taking on their pain while trying to offer some comfort, and it is undeniable that will have affected you. so firstly, how are you, and how has jasper helped you? during the peak, it was horrible. we saw so many deaths. and some people were young as well. one of my hardest point was when i was with a patient, and she died and i looked at her wristband, and the patient had the same day, month and year birthday as my wife. and that really struck home how scary this all was. and during the peak, we just got on with it, like all the staff did, wejust just got on with it, like all the staff did, we just gave everything. and i think some of us are struggling a bit now. but it is important to come together, and share our stories, and that‘s what jasper helps us do. as you can see, he gives lots of love and that‘s what‘s special about it and sometimes hejust

what‘s special about it and sometimes he just needs a bit of love. and he also gives cuddle. can‘t beat a good paddle. interesting that jasper was almost like a facilitator for people to talk. i imagine if you are all in it together and you‘d taffs have to get on with it, it‘s coming to that point where you say, i do need a bit of time, in the first want to say that it could be, not a sign of wea kness that it could be, not a sign of weakness —— being the first one to say that could be, not a sign of weakness, but just being say that could be, not a sign of weakness, butjust being the one to break that immense ability barrier. jasper is very good if someone is upset or crying, he will go up to them and put his head on them and give them a cuddle and that can enable them to carry on with their story, and feel safe and loved. so he does facilitate it and enable people to share their story. and the results are amazing. a lot of staff don‘t need professional mental health, they just need don‘t need professional mental health, theyjust need some love and an opportunity to talk and share

their story and have that peer support and cuddles from jasper because he makes you smile. he certainly does, he‘s very chilled, amazing! he is! and the switching on the blackpool illuminations, they are corona heroes, covid heroes this year. celebrities before who have switched it on, stanley matthews, the cast of dad‘s army, the muppets, tea m the cast of dad‘s army, the muppets, team gb in 2012. what does it mean to you as coronavirus heroes, i know you won‘t like the name heroes but you won‘t like the name heroes but you are, to be doing something like that and celebrated ? you are, to be doing something like that and celebrated? for me it is an honour but i hope it‘s also, i‘m just representing the nhs because so many just representing the nhs because so ma ny staff just representing the nhs because so many staff have given everything in these difficult times. for me it‘s an immense honour and a lovely privilege but it is a tribute to all

of the staff and i hope, especially those staff who are struggling emotionally at the moment, if they go and see the lights, it could give them some hope. you have been a light shining for us this morning, david and jasper, before he falls asleep! that is one very cuddled cockapoo. david said he was good at giving cuddles, but it looks like david is good at giving cuddles as well! when quiz show host richard osman wrote his first novel in secret, perhaps he thought it would be a "pointless" exercise. he isa he is a secretive man with a very big brain, and he has a very interesting background. how are you? really well. i can‘t believe you made me follow a hero cockapoo. you area made me follow a hero cockapoo. you are a man who can rise to a challenge. i know that. tell us about the book, thursday murder

club, you wrote it in secret? yes, i did, i‘ve always been a writer and i a lwa ys did, i‘ve always been a writer and i always wanted to write a novel and i read crime fiction, and i wanted to write one. i thought, no one wants to see a tv presenter write a book, soi to see a tv presenter write a book, so i wanted to do it completely in secret, finish the whole thing, then look at people with the whites of their eyes and say, are you sure this is good and people will like it? and if you trusted people said, —— afew it? and if you trusted people said, —— a few trusted people said, it is good enough. so it was completely done before we sold it. we have sold it in places like the states and france and germany who didn‘t know who i was. it was good that people said, we love this story and these characters. and it is different, these characters and the setting, it isa these characters and the setting, it is a retirement community and our heroes are in their 70s. it is unlikely, perhaps. yeah, the four

heroes are all in their mid—70s. a former spy, trade union activist, a former spy, trade union activist, a former nurse. they meet up once a week to go over old cold cases from the police with a glass of wine. then suddenly a real—life murder happens on their doorstep, and it‘s the story how they managed to get themselves into the heart of the investigation and i cannot tell you if they sold it but it would be weird if they didn‘t! —— if they solve it. having all of the heroes in their mid—70s, is such a joy. so far readers are falling in love with the characters which delights me. it's the characters which delights me. it‘s great having a book where the heroes are all over 70. i'm about three chapters from the end so i could not spoil it if i wanted to. i will finish it today. i love the ge ntle ness will finish it today. i love the gentleness of choice at the moment. she is my favourite. ——joyce.

elizabeth is very wily. i want to know who you gave you the inspiration for these characters. funnily enough, i went to a real life it retirement village, a friend of mine‘s mum went along and i was looking at the setting, a beautiful place, and i thought, this would be a great place for a murder, if you know what i mean! when i started talking to everybody, they are all in their70s, i talking to everybody, they are all in their 70s, i was chatting to people about what they had done in their lives, these extraordinary things, and! their lives, these extraordinary things, and i thought, if there was a murder here, this lot would solve it because there are incredible people here. and probably one of them would have committed it as well! the community where they live, i think when we get older we tend to get more isolated. this community was so full of life and gossip and politics and drinking, ijust thought, i would love to bring this place to live. i want to live here for a start but i would love to bring this place to life. so stick a

murder in the middle of it and bring the modern world into it, and have all of these unlikely characters approach it from different angles, they are all unlikely friends. i love the combination of this world crashing into their world. if you are amateur investigators in their 70s, they each have the tremendous back stories and they are interesting, fully developed characters rather than some young detective in their mid—20s. characters rather than some young detective in their mid-20s. that's the beauty of it. people say, what‘s it like writing older people? older people‘s brains are identical, your brain is the same at 75, 55 and 35, the synapses are same you have got such incredible experiences of the world and you read people well. but you are also underestimated. one of the things which the thursday murder club, these amateur sleuths, they are underestimated by everybody so they can go wherever they want and

talk to anyone they want because people think they are fairly harmless. that‘s how they get involved in everything. it is a joy getting them to give it to the police, and the way that the modern world co m es police, and the way that the modern world comes and interact, i adored writing them and i‘m so happy that eve ryo ne writing them and i‘m so happy that everyone is loving it. quick one, richard, sorry. stephen spielberg has bought the film rights for the book? you are a man of inference, aren‘t you? book? you are a man of inference, aren't you? i kind of am and that makes me happy because he doesn‘t watch my tv shows! you have fantastic programmes. i'm thrilled by the reaction and by the whole thing, i‘m so proud of it, i think people will love it. have you spoken to him? funnily enough, for various reasons, he has flown to london in the last six months. he‘s so rude! yes or no, did you match your shed andjumperto your yes or no, did you match your shed and jumper to your background

deliberately? -- shirt andjumper? i did not, but thank you. is it clashing or all right? you are all right! matching perfectly. a good day for the thursday murder club! that is it from us, see you tomorrow at six i am.

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