tv The Papers BBC News September 12, 2020 10:30pm-11:01pm BST
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at the independent. first a look at tomorrow's front pages: let's start with the sunday times — it splashes on leaked documents, that suggest coronavirus is once again spreading through care homes. the observer says that some of the country's top lawyers have criticised the attorney—general for destroying the uk's reputation, as the row over brexit continues. brexit is on the front page of the sunday telegraph too. the newspaper says the prime minister risks another row with the eu — with plans to opt out of parts of european human rights laws. the sunday express carries an interview with borisjohnson, in which he vows to radically overhaul jail sentences. the mail on sunday urges an end to the covid restrictions, which have seen thousands of women forced to endure labour alone. and, the sunday mirror reports that ufc star conor mcgregor, taken into custody in corsica on suspicion of attempted sexual assault and indecent exposure,
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was released without being charged. quite a lot to get our teeth into tonight. let's start with the sunday times. shocking, johnson shames uk, say x prime ministers. lucy, this is sirjohn major and tony blair, both keen remainders, it has to be said, but from different parties now saying boris johnson but from different parties now saying borisjohnson is wrong from his internal markets bell. yes, you are right to draw attention to the fa ct are right to draw attention to the fact that they are both remainers, because one possible interpretation of this is one final push by the remainers, by the establishment to try to scupper what's left of any possibility to have a trade deal, but nevertheless, they are not alone
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in being really horrified by the manner in which borisjohnson has decided to play this latest kind of moment of the trade talks. we've had theresa may questioning whether anybody globally would ever be able to trust britain or trust our negotiators ever again. we've had brexiters like lord howard, michael howard, saying that he is uncomfortable with the bill that is going to be put to parliament on monday. unfortunately, whatever side of the brexit debate you were on, you will probably see this current skirmish in a different delight, and what's happening here, as you say, it's tony blair, sir john major uniting to say that it's not just what boris johnson is doing, but it's the method that he's adopting that kind of brings shame on us as adopting that kind of brings shame on us as founding fathers of international law, really, do be
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seen being the people who are saying" we seen being the people who are ' " eare seen being the people who are saying" we are happy to break international law." it's not really a good look. certified nest extension of that on the observer, john, top lawyers lay minister for wrecking uk's reputation. this time it's the bar council, furious with the attorney—general. it's the bar council, furious with the attorney-general. yes. the lawyers think that prime ministers are to obey the law. that is not surprising but it is forcefully expressed. lucy is absolutely right. when i first saw that they had written a joint article, i think they have done joint things before, but, i mean, when you think about how hostile they were to each other, imean, in how hostile they were to each other, i mean, in particularjohn major because he was thrashed by tony blair in1997, it because he was thrashed by tony blair in 1997, it does you know, point to the strength of feeling they have. but i do think the problem is that they are, as you
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say, and known remainers, therefore, it will confirm levers in their view that borisjohnson is absolutely right to give the eu a hard time over this. john, let's talk about the sunday telegraph. another legal story here. johnson said to opt out of human rights laws with the potential, the paper says, to open up potential, the paper says, to open upa potential, the paper says, to open up a second confrontation with the eu. it has to be said that you could bea eu. it has to be said that you could be a signature eat to the convention of european rights without belonging to the european union. absolutely. i would regard this with his classic dominic cummings want to throw another bomb in the pool. because he knows that kier starmer who hasn't wanted to rise to the bait of the government deliberately breaking international law, is going to have to respond to an attempt to repudiate the european convention on human rights, whether it's got
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anything to do it that you or not, it's something that, kier starmer is a proud human rights lawyer and will have to respond to that. of course, that will play into the conservative story about kier starmer being a liberal london remainers liar, which is precisely what kier starmer doesn't want to be labelled as. the purpose of this, according to the sunday telegraph, is so that migrants who the government believes shouldn't be here can be more easily deported. yes, there are a number of reasons. one of those is about deportation of migrants and the other is about deporting dangerous criminals. a third case would be around cases that are being brought against british troops. what intrigues me about this story being on the front page of the sunday telegraph is that they themselves promoted a story back in february to say that boris johnson was
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promoted a story back in february to say that borisjohnson was looking at changing the legislation here. in fa ct, at changing the legislation here. in fact, we need to recognise that it's evenin fact, we need to recognise that it's even in the conservative party ma nifesto even in the conservative party manifesto in 2019. so this shouldn't come as any great surprise. it simply another moment at which boris johnson is saying when we leave, we do not want to be completely bound by all of the rules that you have. our rules arejust by all of the rules that you have. our rules are just as strong and arguably in some cases stronger. for example, in the case of examining cases against british troops. so we wa nt to cases against british troops. so we want to have the chance to be able to put those law in action and not have them superseded by the european court of human rights. it was talked about under theresa may, but she didn't do anything about it, but this time, of course, borisjohnson has got a big majority which theresa may lacked. that's true but not the reason why she didn't do it, she didn't do it because it's very difficult and it's not a good idea. to be fair, tony
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blair even considered repudiating parts of the convention because of this problem of, in his case, he was trying to deport people suspected of terrorist offences. and it's a consta nt terrorist offences. and it's a constant struggle for prime ministers. i mean, theyjust find themselves bound by laws which they find frustrating, but i mean, the reason they are there are to protect fundamental human rights. you know, that ought to make prime minister's lives difficult. lucy, the mail on sunday is in campaigning mode, and the trauma of lone births. this is women during the pandemic. they have to give birth without anybody with them, which would be a very lonely experience for many. this is a really shocking story to discover that after lockdown, during locked on, you can almost imagine why certain hospital trusts were
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asking women who were going to be giving birth or were having their scans or perhaps having really important meetings to be told about the health of the foetus, during lockdown, those meetings, those conversations, those scans, the labour happened without a birthing partner beside the woman. but after lockdown, i am partner beside the woman. but after lockdown, iam horrified partner beside the woman. but after lockdown, i am horrified to discover, and i'm really glad they are reporting this, that there are still hospital trusts that are insisting that women go through really difficult procedures on their own. women have told that their baby has died in utero and then have to go through a stillbirth, they have to do it on their own. women who have gone through scans not knowing if the foetus is healthy had to do that on their own. and in some hospitals, you can have a birth partner, which is great, but then they can't hang around for very long. it's only two or three hours before they have to clear off again,
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because they don't have visiting rights. this has got to be looked at. jeremy hunt has already written and also, the organisation for midwives have said that hospital trusts should have watered down these rules already, but it seems that's not been happening, and i find that really distressing. the other covid—19 story that is particularly pertinent tonight is on the sunday telegraph, john, millions at most risk may be told to stay at home again, which i suppose is imaginable because we are now heading toward, on monday, the rule of six in most parts of the country in one form or another. yes, and when that was announced, i did wonder, it did cross my mind as to why shielding wasn't being brought back for the most vulnerable people. imean back for the most vulnerable people. i mean come i looked at the
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government website and it says that actually the level of prevalence of the virus is not sufficient to warrant that come about, i mean, clearly, this is something that has got to be kept under review. i suspect the government's party is right in which it has to stop the spread of virus in the general population as much as i can, and if that gets above a certain level, it has got to be reintroduced— shielding. i think the most important thing is supporting people during shielding, and the government's support has been withdrawn. and, you know, perhaps it ought to be brought back for people who want it. there are people, lucy, who want it. there are people, lucy, who still feel very fearful about not shielding any more, even though they are told they don't have to. yes. well, yes, the messaging during lockdown was so clear and so dramatic of, you know, stay home, save lives, that i think we
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inculcated that as a message so fully that even now, we are allowed outcome hopefully many of us are wearing masks in supermarkets, not that you would know that here in central london, but i think a lot of people worry that not enough of the other people are taking it seriously so they need to protect themselves by staying at home. that has ramifications for mental health, for actually getting out and getting other illnesses checked out. we know, for example, that there is a huge backlog in hospitals and gp surgeries of people who have been too frightened to go and get their health check to because they are so worried about catching the virus or they are worried about taking up precious resources within the nhs, so there are a number of reasons why people who need to shield have actually probably been less forward in coming forward in terms of making themselves exposed to the virus
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again. now they are going to worry that they are going to put themselves at risk, so they will stay at home even longer. let's finish this review with to sir terence, who has died at the age of 88, described in the observer as a revolutionary. john, have you got anything in house that sir terrence might have designs, i know i have?” was afraid you are going to ask me that. it's not those book shelves, is it, let's be honest. no, they we re is it, let's be honest. no, they were thrown together. i mean, to be honest, and i'm sure people are younger than me who will be baffled as to who terrence conrad was, i suppose, because you know, habitat hasn't been a feature on our high streets for a long time. hasn't been a feature on our high streets for a long timelj hasn't been a feature on our high streets for a long time. i walked past one on the way to work. it's still there quiz might it is. and i look longingly through the window.
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lucy, have you got anything with the stamp on it? well, i think what i haveis stamp on it? well, i think what i have is a love of restaurants. you know, somebody who grew up on a diet of butterscotch angel delight in cheese squares which was my mums pieced a result stalls the idea that you could go to a restaurant and for it to be glamourous and exciting and stylish, that is all because of terrence conrad. i can still remember gliding down the stairs towards the crust shall alter that he had created and suddenly you just realise that eating out was an amazing thing to do, and london now leads the world, i would argue, in terms of restaurants, and that is all down to sir terrence. terms of restaurants, and that is all down to sir terrencelj terms of restaurants, and that is all down to sir terrence. i would like you both to go away and have a think about wondering about your house, if you need to come in to ta ke house, if you need to come in to take a look and see if you've got anything from terrence's stable. i feel slightly let down by you both, i have to say. come back in an hour. thank you, thank you so much. good to set them off on some homework.
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i've got a coffee table, when i was 15 to my headlines in my bedroom from habitat. such a suck up. lucy and john will be back at half past eleven for another look at the papers. next on bbc news, it's time for click. hey, welcome to click. hope you're doing ok. if you've got kids, then i hope the whole back—to—school thing is going as well as it can do. to be honest, here, it is a little bit like that. how's it going with you, lara? it's tricky, isn't it? i remember going back as a young child as though it was yesterday, when clearly it is not, and i think, as parents, we relive that experience
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through our children. yeah, we certainly do, we certainly do, and, let's face it, education is just going to feel different this year. it is also going to be different depending on the age of the kids. really young children will probably be asked to bubble within a year group. older children will be asked to follow stricter rules. and universities, well, they're facing a whole world of challenges. yes, they're getting set to reopen, and for many, there will be some in—person education, but the role of remote learning is going to be more important than ever. but for some courses, it's notjust about listening to a lecture — the practical is just as important. so i took a trip to an empty university science department, to see how virtual labs could transform education as we know it. let's go. please wear a lab coat before entering a lab. where's my lab coat? oh, there. most will be learning via a laptop,
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but, for some, virtual reality will place them in the experiment. and today, i get to be a science student. what type of molecule is shown in the picture above? i'll go for dna. you are a genius. i'm a genius! ok, it was one question. i just want to press all the buttons. but not everything goes right first time. modules like this can let students learn about dangerous subjects safely. meanwhile, others let you bend the rules of reality. let's use an inverted microscope to have a look at some cells. i'm actually inside a cell, which is, of course, not something you could do in real life. weird. and the simulations give students access to expensive kit, that not all universities could afford. in real life, this microscope would cost around £150,000.
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at least this means more people can actually interact with this, albeit virtually. the vr experience was a bit glitchy, and another obvious issue is that not everyone has a vr headset. but for universities like this one, it's the pc version that's proving vital through the pandemic. obviously when covid came along, we wanted to bring the virtual lab into every student's home, in the context of an online seminar, where it's led by an academic, and they're asked questions, they're checked on their knowledge as they go through the workshop. globally, overi million students have already accessed labster‘s tools, and the company says that the pandemic is accelerating adoption. as an example, the california community college system that has 2 million students, based on the urgent need, we entered a partnership with them in less than one month, and now they're rolling out to hundreds of thousands of students right away. whether donning a headset
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or on a screen, users could also do a spot of surgery, go on a field trip, or even visit mars. if you want to keep exploring the lab, feel free to do so. you can say hello to our iguana or have a look... there's a rodent. is that a mouse? ok, there are some things i'd rather only see virtually. and learning through vr isn'tjust for students. professionals have been doing it too. omar mehtab's been finding out how the emergency services have been putting these to good use. with emergency services being stretched thin, and social distancing in place, it means face—to—face training isnt as easy as it used to be. but that doesn't mean that they can't still be trained. sure, people have been using video calling or slide presentations, but what about... virtual reality? first up, firefighting.
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vobling have created a platform where you can customise a fire. this extinguisher that they provide has been fitted with trackers to make it feel like you are operating a real one, and notjust a couple of controllers. but what about the more serious scenarios? rivr have created a way for firefighters to learn almost on the go. by filming 360—degree videos of big expensive set—ups, firefighters can put on a wireless headset, and go through the training as if they were there. now looking at this, i thought, isn't this just playing a video? how exactly can this be any more useful in virtual reality? simply, we can't get those venues on a day—to—day basis ‘cause we can'tjust set fire to buildings. that also costs us in the region of between £10,000—£15,000 at a time. so we ran a brief feedback session this morning, with the crews that actually attended the scenario, and a number of other people have
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seen it who didn't go, and they were really engaged, almost entering the scenario themselves, verbally talking about what they would do and how they do it. right, that is what is going on with firefighting. let's move on to health care. fundamental vr systems help train surgeons and nurses on how to perform certain tasks during procedures. by using haptic feedback through the tools, the user can feel how they are doing in the virtual procedure. is this on something, is it...am i touching something? no, it's in the air. and the system is also accredited which means it is also a way for some in health care to earn credits for their course. and their multi—user system means students can remotely patch in to virtual surgeries, to watch and learn — an alternative to traditional learning and examination. so the pandemic has just accelerated, in my view, a trend that was already taking place, and that is about being able
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to go 2a hours a day into a learning environment, now that they can't get into the operating room as easily as they used to, the numbers of cases are dramatically reduced. people don't want to come into hospital at the moment, and this is an opportunity to fill some of that gap. that's health care done. so, finally, let's look at the police. we went out to the police constabulary in derbyshire, where officers are learning how and when to use a taser in virtual reality. normally, you'd be taught in a room, where someone in a big blue padded suit would approach you with a rubber knife, and officers would use mock taser cartridges to subdue the bad guy, like this. but these cartridges are expensive, around £30 a pop, and being in a room in your workplace isn't exactly the same as a life—threatening scenario. so virtual reality company avrt have created a massive space using these
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sensor mats where officers can put on a headset and roam around a virtual environment. would you mind just stepping onto that side for me? they can be transported to a normal street, an alleyway or a rooftop, to create a more realistic feeling. and an instructor even adds a voice, so it feels as though you're dealing with a real person. and things got intense. put the weapon down, put the weapon down! stay on the floor, stay on the floor! stay on the floor, please! it highlights a few flaws that we have in sort of real—life training in terms of, obviously, people come to do a role play and there is somebody in a big blue suit, there's a taser suit, and it kind of gives people a precondition of what the things going to happen. so in the vr world, it's just nice that we can input certain scenarios we are not aware of. i completely mirror that. you do get fully submerged into the scenario which you don't think you will by putting something over your face and ears. but as soon as that headset goes on, and the headphones go on, you do get straight into it, and you forget about everyone else
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around you, and you just deal with what you're seeing. and it was time for me to give it a go, to test how immersive it really was, and see if it would affect whether i pulled the trigger or not. put the knife down, hey, take a step back! david, david, go back! hey, hey...david! drop the knife, drop the knife! david, stop, stop where you're standing! i've got a taser! do not get any closer, put the knife down! put it down! that don't feel good, honestly. honestly, i...twice, twice i've gone into that and i have purposely not fired this, and the third time i forced myself to fire it, forced myself, and i hated it, i knew i would hate it, and i did hate it. i really did feel stressed, and the instructors' personal responses to what i was saying piled even more pressure on me. i really did think about the gravity of actually firing that taser.
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i think that's enough, i think we've done enough now. yeah. we happy? cool there is, i think, an issue with trust between the public and the police force, and a lot of that is down to how force is deployed by the police force. there is a huge story that goes on, before the deployment of a weapon, before a weapon is even drawn, before any use of force is engaged. we can really capture, right from the start of that first interaction with someone, measure what sort of empathy we're getting from our police officers, and actually make officers accountable for the training of their decision—making process, right up to, and including, that use of force. but do these simulations actually help people to learn effectively? one of the research challenges is proving the effectiveness of the training. so you're training for a dangerous situation and making sure that transfers to real world is a challenge because you can't
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ethically or safely expose people to this dangerous situation, to see how well they perform. what i've seen in this area is that people have a tendency to be very excited about this technology, and perhaps not ask to see the evidence that its effective. i think it should be used cautiously until we have the evidence to use it to a greater extent. so crossing from the real to the virtual world may seem like an obvious alternative to traditional training, but given how much is on the line with the work of these emergency services, and how new this all is, perhaps it's better to use virtual reality to complement, rather than replace, for now. that is it for the shortcut of click for this week. i'm afraid. plenty more in the full—length version, which is waiting for you right now on iplayer. and as ever, you can keep up with the team on social media. on youtube, instagram, facebook and twitter @bbcclick. thanks for watching, we'll see you soon. bye— bye.
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hello there. we've seen quite a mixture of weather to start the weekend. for england and wales, plenty of sunshine, as you can see on the satellite picture. further north, through the afternoon, we have seen cloud spread into northern ireland and scotland and the northwest of england as well. in the sunshine, it was a lovely day to be out on the beaches in st ives. the waves just coming in, quite small waves here, whereas in western scotland, the waves looked rather bigger. that's because the winds have been strengthening and we are seeing cloud and rain edge in as well. that rain should appear on the radar picture, and it's working into northern ireland, scotland and across northwest england too. now, we probably will see a little bit of patchy rain getting into the western side of wales for a time overnight. but it is across northern ireland
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and scotland that we will see the rain being particularly persistent and lasting throughout the night, really, in a number of places. across the midlands, east anglia, southern england, it's dry with clear spells, and it's a mild night for all of us, really — 12—14 degrees for the overnight lows. now, tomorrow from our rain band not really in a hurry to move away from these western hills of scotland — where we could see in excess of 100 mil metres of rain by the end of the weekend. so some localised surface water flooding is a possibility. england and wales, sunshine develops widely, and i suspect this cloud across northern ireland, central and southern scotland will have a tendency to break up through the afternoon to allow some sunny spells. but it is across eastern england where we will see the highest temperatures. a warmer day, highs of up to 25—26 in london and norwich, and that warming trend is set to continue into the early stage of next week with a brief hot spell on the way. the reason for that, this area of high pressure is just slipping a little bit further eastwards. it's allowing southerly winds to develop and move in across a good chunk of the uk. and it's those southerly winds that are dragging in that hotter
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air from the continent. so, weather—wise, where we still have the threat of a little bit of rain across the northwest of the uk, where it stays cloudy here, temperatures probably around 20 degrees or so. but where the sunshine comes out, it's going to turn increasingly hot. across parts of southeast england, including the london area, we should see temperatures hitting around 30 celsius. similar heat around on tuesday, again, the hottest weather across areas of eastern england. but it will be warm across northern england and across parts of wales as well. now, through the rest of the week, there is a tendency for those temperatures to gradually drift lower and a bit closer to normal by the end of the week. that's your weather.
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