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this is bbc news. i'm ben brown. the headlines. the prime minister announces new measures to tackle the second wave of coronavirus. borisjohnson says it's a "perilous turning point" and that the latest restrictions in england are likely to be in place for six months. for the time being, this virus is a fact of our lives, and i must tell the house and the country, that our fight against it will continue. labour will do whatever is reasonable and necessary to support that, to save lives, to protect the nhs, but the government must lead. and must do so fast. pubs and restaurants will close at 10pm, wedding guest numbers are halved, and those who can should work from home.
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i can work from home and i think we should if it means that the infection rate remains low. so, i think we need to do everything. i feel sorry for people with parents and children, being stuck at home. in scotland, the first minister nicola sturgeon goes further — from tomorrow people will not be allowed to visit each other‘s homes. by acting early and substantially, we hope these new measures will be in place for a shorter period than would be the case if we waited longer to act. as plans for fans to return to stadiums are put on hold, sports clubs call for emergency funding. and the coronavirus death toll in the united states has now passed 200,000 — the worst hit country in the world.
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the prime minister has further tightened restrictions across england to try to stop the spread of coronavirus. borisjohnson told mps the country is at a "perilous turning point" and that now is the time to act. he said the measures are likely to last for the next six months. they include reversing government policy, by telling people they should now work from home "if they can". pubs, bars, restaurants and other hospitality venues must close by 10pm from thursday. the rule of six for social interactions remains in place though with fewer exemptions. the proposed loosening of restrictions at sporting events is being put on hold. from monday, a maximum of 15 people can attend weddings and processions. up to 30 can still attend funerals. there are tougher measures in scotland. from tomorrow, people will no longer be allowed to visit each other‘s homes. first minister nicola sturgeon says
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she hopes this will reduce the spread of the virus and allow restrictions to be lifted in under six months. 0ur political correspondent chris mason reports. westminster, first thing this morning. the cabinet gathers to discuss the changes to come. i'm sure very serious measures will be announced. we will have to wait for what the prime minister has to say. will this stop a second spike? i'm confident the strategy will be effective. all eyes on the prime minister. his next appointment with these men, his chief scientists and the leaders of scotland, wales and northern ireland, among others, an emergency cobra meeting. and then at lunchtime... i now call the prime minister to make his statement. i wish i could reassure the house that the growing number of cases is merely a function of more testing. but a rising proportion of the tests themselves are yielding a positive result. but we always knew that while we might have driven
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the virus into retreat, the prospect of a second wave was real. and i'm sorry to say that, as in spain and france and many other countries, we've reached a perilous turning point. from thursday, pubs, bars and restaurants in england will have to close by ten o'clock at night and people who work in offices are once again being encouraged to work from home. i can work from home and i think we should if it means that the infection rate stays low. so, i think we need to do everything that we possibly can. i do think there has been a certain amount of a lack of clarity. i think it's frustrating for everyone, i feel sorry for parents and children who will be stuck at home and i also feel sorry for the economy. there has been passionate argument within the government about how far to go, with some wanting more significant restrictions and others, like the chancellor, persuading the prime minister not
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to close anything down fully yet. but that could still come and what's changing today will be with us for some time. unless we palpably make progress, we should assume that the restrictions i have announced will remain in place for perhaps six months. for the time being, this virus is a fact of our lives and i must tell the house and the country, that our fight against it will continue. responding for labour, sir keir starmer said he would continue to provide what he called constructive opposition, but added... we should also recognise that a second national lockdown is not inevitable. that would be a huge failure of government, not an act of god. there is still time to prevent it and that must be a national effort. labour will do whatever is reasonable and necessary to support that, to save lives, to protect the nhs but
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the government must lead and it must do so fast. ian blackford. question after question followed for the prime minister including this one from the scottish national party. the prime minister has changed his advice this morning on working from home. it is now time to change his mind on furlough as well. today i have one question and it's a question that 61,000 employees in scotland are asking. prime minister, they deserve certainty and they deserve an answer. would this government now deserve an answer. would this government i'iow save deserve an answer. would this government now save these jobs and extend the frugal skimpy on october? 0ur extend the frugal skimpy on october? our objective that not the officer —— prime minister didn't offer any promises but said the government would continue to put its arms around the whole workforce of the uk. welcome to the latest chapter of governments around the country wrestling with getting the balance right, protecting our health, our
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liberty, and our economy. chris mason, bbc news, at westminster. our political correspondent jessica parker is in the houses of parliament. getting the balance right as chris mason was saying. does this package of measure seem like a compromise the prime minister has come up with? because he was fighting different wings of ministers and mps wanted more or less action. i think you are right, he had significant pressure in some cases not to go too far with the restrictions and others making sure he did go far enough in order to curb rates of transmission of the virus. we heard stark warnings yesterday from the chief medical officer and chief scientific adviser as well but i think of the watch that he announced today in terms of the measures is how long the warning, that we are in it from the long haul that they could last for six months if the r rate isn't
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brought down below one. in terms of whether boris johnson brought down below one. in terms of whether borisjohnson is gone far enough, it is important to note the nicola sturgeon in scotland has announced an extension of a ban on household visits in scotland something borisjohnson household visits in scotland something boris johnson did household visits in scotland something borisjohnson did not do andi something borisjohnson did not do and i say noticeably because we have heard from ministers from the uk government saying one of the major issues in terms of transition has been social interactions and matt hancock has said that before and chris wood he and his medical officer talked about trying to break those links of unnecessary household interactions. it is interesting borisjohnson has not gone that far. whilst there are regional and national variations in terms of the r rate, it will be interesting to see over the coming weeks which approach works and we will be able to know which approach works who has got it right because closely monitoring the r rate will be something people have their eye on and boris johnson something people have their eye on and borisjohnson clearly did not rule out the possibility of further measures down the line and i think
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what would be potentially next because he is so eager to avoid curves that would significantly affect the economy as they try to get this fragile economically, re—— recovery going, could be quite dense and socialising, social interactions if that continues to be one of the major areas where the virus is spreading. briefly he has to sell this message, these new restrictions to the people, he is addressing the public ina to the people, he is addressing the public in a televised address this evening, "freedom loving britons he called them" in the comments. that will be seen as crucial from downing street's perspective because one of the warnings from all sides of the house to some extent and with the conversations i've had with conservative backbenchers today is the potential loss of public trust, we are in a different place in march when full lockdown was announced, since then the sense of public confidence that government has to some extent frayed, there have been ongoing testing issues, so the prime
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minister will try to persuade people with the government strategy is the right one this evening. jess, thank you very much indeed. jessica parker political correspondent. scotland's first minister, nicola sturgeon, has gone further than the prime minister, announcing a ban on scots visiting other people's homes, with some exceptions. she also said those that can work from home, should do so. as in england, scotland will also have a curfew for pubs, bars and restaurants — meaning they will have to close by 10pm from friday. nicola sturgeon said she hoped that by acting early, restrictions could be in place for a shorter period of six months. it is the case that until scientific developments like a vaccine change the game in the battle against covid, it will have a continuing impact on our lives, but that doesn't mean that these changes will be in
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place for six months. by acting early and substantially we hope these changes will be in place for shorter than if we had waited longer to act. in the first instance we will review these measures in three weeks. given the nature of this virus, it is important to be clear that these might be needed for longer than that. joining me now is the scottish government's national clinical director — jason leitch. thank you very much for being with us. thank you very much for being with us. nicola sturgeon going further than boris johnson in us. nicola sturgeon going further than borisjohnson in terms of these restrictions. why do you fear that has been necessary, what is going on with coronavirus in scotland? let's go back to first principles here. the risk is household transitions —— transmission. the risk is between one household to another. if you get it in your house it is on it's impossible to stop it going to everybody in your house. you can try and people have managed it from self—isolation. the next risk is taking it from that household to another. into particular places in
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your own home or somebody else's, so when you asked for public health advice about what to do, those of the two things we tell you to do. restrict household gatherings at home and restrict household gatherings and other places, hospitality workplaces. that is hard, nobody wants to give that advice and nobody wants to have to make those choices but that is where the virus is and that is where it is caught, and leads to illness and u nfortu nately caught, and leads to illness and unfortunately then leads to death. people may not of been very surprised to hear of these new restrictions in scotland and england announced today but they might be surprised to hear this time period of six months. that is going to cause a lot of dismay, isn't it?|j hate it. i don't know if you are fed up, iam hate it. i don't know if you are fed up, i am fed up already. this is september, this is six months almost to the day from march the 23rd when we asa uk to the day from march the 23rd when we as a uk made the kind of lockdown choices. the unfortunate fact is the
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virus is the same as it was on march the 23rd, it has not changed in any meaningful way. so until science gets us out of this either with better treatment, a different type of testing and or a vaccine, were going to have to have population restrictions. it's the only thing we can do. we only have tests and protective attesting trace in england, test and protect in scotland, and human behaviour the only two things that work here. we have marginal treatments around people who are very sick and we have got a little bit better at intensive ca re got a little bit better at intensive care treatment for people with covid. but medical advances have not helped us to stop the disease and prevented from getting worse. so we need to moderate human behaviour until science gives us a solution. you say it is the only thing to do but there are people who say we need to learn to live with this virus because it is going to be with us for many years potentially. that is what sweden has done, some people
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would say quite successfully by going for herd immunity and a p pa re ntly going for herd immunity and apparently kind of achieving it. sweden is slightly misunderstood if you will forgive me, ben. i know that chief executives in sweden and i know the guy who does myjob in sweden. they have done it slightly differently and have managed to keep schools open throughout their lockdown but i did say to one of them everybody says you have not walked down and he said, "well it feels like lockdown to me." they shot a lot of their business and economy, elements of the hospitality sector, they still did the distancing, they do not have inequalities like in some european countries have quite the uk has facet they do not live in high—rise box and have some of the demographics that we have compared to them. that is not an excuse, we should learn from them and from the french and spanish and the welsh. we should learn from everybody, we should learn from everybody, we should learn from new zealand about how they managed to achieve what they achieve. and we should take the best of them but apply them to our
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context best of them but apply them to our co ntext a nd best of them but apply them to our context and i'm afraid it is six months is because of the virus, not because of people's bad behaviour or because of people's bad behaviour or because young people are doing something. it's because of the virus. herd immunity only works with a vaccine. you can't run the risk of people dying and getting sick randomly. i've got a 41—year—old powell who got really sick. no pre—existing conditions, no reason for him to get sick for three and a half months. so you cannot tell who is going to be that. you can tell which people are more at risk but you can't tell by looking at people who was going to be the one that suffers most. jason very good to talk to you. really interesting actually. jason leitch there the scottish critical national director. thank you for your time. we can now speak to robert dingwall, professor of sociology at nottingham trent university and a member of the new and emerging respiratory virus threats advisory group. thank you very much for being with us. thank you very much for being with us. what do you make of the new
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restrictions announced today by the prime minister? speaking personally rather than a member of my group, i do find it for her to see the justification of these measures. the evidence that they are needed is quite fragile and the evidence that they are likely to benefit the population and controlled the virus is pretty much nonexistent. it is a great frustration that we have had six months of social and behavioural interventions with really virtually no research as to which of them are making the difference if indeed any of them are making the difference. so what would be your recommendation? what would you like to see the government do? there is a lot of talk that we are at a tipping point. i think we should remember that a tipping point can go even more than one direction. i was really quite impressed with the closing thoughts that sir patrick
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valla nce closing thoughts that sir patrick vallance was expressing in the press briefing us today when he was suggesting that we should really be talking much more seriously about what it would take to live with covid in much the same way as we traditionally lived with influenza. we have only had a mass vaccination for influenza for about ten years. before that we were quite co mforta ble before that we were quite comfortable with the idea that here was something it came around, a bit ofa was something it came around, a bit of a nuisance every winter. in a good year it might cost 20,000 deaths. in a bad year, it might cost 50,000 but we had a sense of proportion. that has seemed to have flown out the window in the approach to the management of this particular infection. we were just talking to jason leitch in edinburgh about the swedish model where you learn to live with that. and perhaps go for a herd immunity but of course the risk but that is the number of cases
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spirals, we heard from patrick valla nce spirals, we heard from patrick vallance and chris whitty that potentially in a month we could have something like 50,000 cases a day, 200 deaths a day and that it spirals and spirals and grows exponentially. if you follow their watcher, i think something like 11.5 million of us would be dead by christmas and i don't think anybody regards that as remotely possible. what they were presenting is one particular way of looking at the data and there is a respectable body of opinion within the modelling community that thinks very differently about the same data. the swedish approach is a different one, i'm not necessarily an advocate for that. but it doesn't seem an advocate for that. but it doesn't seem to me that they have gone on realistically about the managing of the movement of this infection through the community rather than the sort of boom and bust cycles
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that many other european countries have been through. that many other european countries have been throughlj that many other european countries have been through. i hear what you say but some will say isn't the bottom line that what you say means we need to be prepared to put up with more death? i think the question is which deaths are we going to put up with? are covid debts more important than cancer deaths or deaths from heart disease or death from stroke or deaths from the high levels of unemployment that are coming down the track at us for the next two or three years? all of those bring a price and deaths. my question is why do we think that the covid ones are more important? and indeed is it not quite likely that we will actually see more deaths from other causes as a result of this very narrow focus on the management of covid—19? this very narrow focus on the management of covid-19? interesting to talk to you. professor of sociology at nottingham trent university. many thanks.
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as we've been hearing — the prime minister has introduced new measures for the hospitality industry to take effect from this thursday. these include a compulsory closing time of 10pm for pubs, bars a nd restau ra nts as well as being restricted by law to table service only, except for takeaways. businesses could also be fined up to £10,000 if they take reservations of more than six, do not enforce social distancing, or do not take customers' contact details. with me is sarah ali choudhury from the taj mahal restaurant in dorset. and also i'm joined by gary murphy from the mitre pub in north london. gary to you first, some people would say closing at 10pm is not that big ofa say closing at 10pm is not that big of a deal, isn't it? to shutting a little bit earlier than normally. how much difference would make to your business? it is going to make a
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huge difference to this business. this is a drinks lead pub and drinks let pups don't tend to close until much later. this one closes at half past 12 during the week and half past 12 during the week and half past one on fridays and saturdays. we have a lot of trade generated from people coming back from central london late at night, from restaurants pre—and post, we have re sta u ra nt restaurants pre—and post, we have restaurant workers, supermarket workers who pop in here. we really are at risk of losing much of that trait. and the prime minister was just saying it is notjust a last orders at 10pm it is shutting down. how difficult is that going to be to actually achieve? well the customers will no doubt compliant do as they are told as they have done with all we have done and introduce was that thatis we have done and introduce was that that is a key point i would like to
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make tonight but we have very good compliance, pubs are very highly regulated. we have separate seating, no standing. we have track and trace already in place and i can see little reason to extend that because the evidence just isn't there. and the evidence just isn't there. and the government's on evidence, pubs in terms of the hotspot for transmission are near the bottom. the high hotspots are care homes as we would expect, hospitals, people's own homes and also workplaces. so why have we focused on pubs when they are already working? these restrictions have verbally restricted our trade to the degree where very few of us are even breaking even and this willjust topple us over. sarah ali choudhury at the taj mahal restaurant in
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dorset, how would these restrictions hit you do you think? we are in a small of town and we supported the ito to help out scheme just after lockdown just as many did and just as many in britain did and were a big part of that scheme. and i feel that according to some of the recent news i have heard from mrjohnson claiming that the disease tends to happen after more alcohol is being consumed which tends to be later on in the evening. so a restaurant like ours in bridport, a want of the local people do stop going out late at night. i think over when you have at night. i think over when you have a resta u ra nt at night. i think over when you have a restaurant that is open seven days a restaurant that is open seven days a week and if you close an hour earlier or two hours earlier across the seven days, we are talking about quite a loss of income. although
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compared to some other places are much busier and will have a lot more footfall in those places such as london and so on, i think we will be definitely affected. of course i think everybody in the hospitality industry is some however, this is to prevent covid from spreading and a first of all, i think we were trying to help the economy with the ouch to help out scheme and everybody is getting back into eating out and now we are saying other people are eating out telling them to leave and go home earlier? in terms of settings, i have heard restaurant owners saying they would have two settings but shutting at ten means you can only have one sitting, so what about them ? you can only have one sitting, so what about them? i think you could have two sittings, you can open earlier than normal, i am talking on behalf of the indian restaurant trade where we open around five or six o'clock in the evening and go until 12am so we could open earlier
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especially since the whole country isa especially since the whole country is a part of this and will help to shape it. effectively, ithink is a part of this and will help to shape it. effectively, i think yes of course there will be a loss. it would be nice of the government could give some financial support to the hospitality industry. i know they have been helping already but a bit more money never goes amiss.|j wonder if they are listening. gary murphyjust you were telling us about how this will hit you, the 10pm shutdown. in terms of your takings frankly what sort or percentage would that be that is posted at ten o'clock if you like? it is very difficult to figure that one out because they will be changes in behaviour, some will come earlier. but if i could give you figures for where we are now in terms of 2020, we have or are forecasting to lose throughout the whole year 50% of our trade because we we re whole year 50% of our trade because we were shut for 18 weeks. and we
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have been restricted since reopening injuly. what that means is that have been restricted since reopening in july. what that means is that we are £230,000 short then we were last year for paying our bills. the government has provided us some help while we were close for furlough for staff, and for a small grant of 25,000 but the total of that is only 60,000.50 25,000 but the total of that is only 60,000. sol 25,000 but the total of that is only 60,000. so i am left with £170,000 deficit. and one small pub, there are thousands of us all over the country. we really need a comprehensive support package if we are going to get through this and it's comprehensive support package if we are going to get through this and it's going to be elongated. just briefly the prime minister was saying this could be six months, gary, can you survive that want you think? to be honest ben i really don't know. it is going i am going
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to try i have a little cushion because i have done well in previous years but it is tough for everybody to sustain tens of thousands of pounds lost and £170,000 so far. goodness knows what it will be at the end of the six months. and then what is going to happen? one of your experts earlier mention trying to live with this virus and i think thatis live with this virus and i think that is very important, that we need to find a way to live with it and to protect the most vulnerable and give people their choices back. going to the pub is a choice. and some older people couldn't wait to get through the door when we reopened injuly, and others haven't come. and that is absolutely fine, whatever they choose to do. but we need to get back to a much never normal. gary, good luck for the next few months.
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gary murphy at the mitre pub in north london and good luck to sarah ali choudhury at the taj mahal restau ra nt ali choudhury at the taj mahal restaurant in dorset in bridport. many thanks to both of you for talking to us and while we were talking to us and while we were talking to us and while we were talking to you a little bit of news just coming in that the european council president has postponed a summit of european union leaders from thursday and friday until the start of october after going into coronavirus quarantine because of contact with an infected security guard. that is the latest we are just hearing from brussels. let's get a book at the latest weather forecast. it turned out to be a cloudy dan to a but was sunshine hanging on across the mittens in eastern england it became warm. in suffolk we're looking at temperatures of 12 celsius by the end of the week. so a drop of 14 degrees between now and then. the airwill degrees between now and then. the air will arrive behind this area of
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rain which is a cold front. as the rain which is a cold front. as the rain clears away from scotland and northern ireland and moves into england and wales, skies clear and it gets colderfor a england and wales, skies clear and it gets colder for a touch of frost on the grass in northern scotland but still relatively mild across ingot and wales for the time being. into wednesday the cold front will swing southwards and the rain turning heavy and persistent across eastern areas. a few showers for north wales and western england, scotla nd north wales and western england, scotland and ireland were to dry but it is across these western areas where will have the cooler temperatures.
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pubs and restaurants will close at 10pm — wedding guest numbers are halved — and those who can should work from home. in scotland, the first minister nicola sturgeon goes further, from tomorrow people will not be allowed to visit each other‘s homes. thousands more jobs are to go — with the hospitality industry once again bearing the brunt. and as plans for fans to return to stadiums are put on hold, sports clubs call for emergency funding. jane dougall has more but the sport. as you just heard the government has postponed a return of spans to fording events which had been due to start in the 1st of october. or chanson has confirmed it the house of commons what michael gault of commons what michael gove to the bbc this morning that the plan to gradually reintroduce spectators will not be going to head at this time. michael gove said they need to be cautious with the case as a
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covid—19 on the right. the premier league have issued a statement saying... the news will be a huge blow to smaller football clubs — there are fears some will go under if they can't bring paying fans through the gates. the government will be looking at the financial impact and possibly putting together a support package. dartford fc have a friendly against dover athletic this evening and are expecting up to 1000 fans at the game, but their chairman thinks the future could be bleak. if this went on for much longer and the suggestion from the prime minister today was that this could be anything up to six months, there is no club at our level nationally
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down through the steps that can survive six months without the fans coming to the door. i think the only thing could be a suspension of the league or a cancelling of the leak if that is the way it will go. i can't see any alternative. scottish first minister nicola sturgeon has said the phased return of fans in the scottish premiership from 5th of october is now "unlikely". further pilot events are on hold with the situation to be reviewed again in three weeks. it means fans inside celtic park for the first old firm game of the season on the 17th of october is also unlikely, while scotland's matches against israel on the 8th of october and slovakia three days later, will be behind closed doors. the prime minister also announced that the "rule of six" would apply to indoor team sports, so basketball, netball and indoor football will be among those affected. leyton orient‘s league cup match against tottenham this evening has been postponed, after a number of orient‘s first team players tested postive for coronavirus. the decision to call off the match
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was announced just two hours before the scheduled 6pm kick—off. it's expected that spurs will be awarded a bye under the rules of the competition, where chelsea or barnsley await in the fourth round, but orient are keen for the tie to be rearranged. west brom manager slaven bilic has been charged with improper conduct by the fa after an outburst during their defeat to everton on saturday. he came onto the pitch at half—time, protesting to referee mike dean about the var decision that gave everton their first goal. he was shown a red card but he insists he didn't swear. he's been charged with improper conduct and has until thursday to respond. there were supposed to be 1,000 fans at bath's premiership rugby match against gloucester this evening. however, it will now be played in an empty recreation ground, following the government's announcement today. premiership rugby have confirmed their decision that all games will take place behind closed doors.
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basketball legend michael jordan has joined forces with nascar driver denny hamlin to form a racing team — with bubba wallace as their driver. hamlin, a three—time daytona 500 winner, announced the news on social media, saying deciding on their driver was easy. wallace is nascar‘s only black full—time driver and jordan said it was a chance to educate a new audience, adding that the sport was evolving and embracing social change more and more. there's much more on the website including live coverage of wales women's european qualifier against norway. 1—0 to norway, chelsea's guro reiten putting them ahead. that's all the sport for now. that's bbc.co.uk/sport. thank you, jane. let's take a look at the main points from that address we had earlier on the house of commons for the prime minister. penalties for not wearing a face covering our gathering in groups are
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more than six will increase to £20. from thursday, all pubs, bars and restaurants must close by ten o'clock, and will be restricted to table service only. office workers are being told to work from home if possible. the use of mandatory face coverings will be extended, to cover shop staff, taxi drivers and passengers. exemptions to the rule of six will be cut back — 15 people will be able to attend a wedding, but 30 people will still be able to attend a funeraland plans to allow fans to return to sporting events from the 1st october have been paused. let's take a look the message around these announcements. with me is jamesjohnson — a political adviser and pollster who was previously opinion research and strategy adviser to theresa may when she was prime minister. and also i'm joined by deborah mattinson, co—founder of britain thinks — an international insight and strategy consultancy that has been tracking the public mood through the pandemic —
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and is also author of beyond the red wall — a look at the result of the 2019 election. let's go to you then, deborah. what does britain think? is there a question of fatigue when it comes to all of these restrictions? well, no, not really. we have been tracking public opinion throughout the pandemic with how the project, the coronavirus diaries, people all over the country keeping diaries every week. their biggest worry all the way through has been a second wave of the virus. and that is what we are now. and they are back to feeling, we have been tracking their mood, feeling very anxious and very worried. my feeling is that they may feel that these measures are not enough, what we found all the way through this people have prioritise health over the economy comes that is not to say they're not worried about the economy, they are to him but they are really worried about health and and definitely put that first. i think there may be a sense
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that having been giving the big build up yesterday, that actually wa nt build up yesterday, that actually want these measures were unveiled they don't seem like very much. and it might suggest this government has his priorities the other way around from within, that is to say it is very much prioritising the economy and making money over keeping people safe and well. james, what do you make of these measures that were announced today by the prime minister? he has to got to sell this tonight, doing a televised address at eight o'clock come he has to convince people that these measures are convince people that these measures a re necessary convince people that these measures are necessary and he also talked about they may have to last for six months. yes. i think what deborah says though, you really see today the prime minister trying to tread that line between prioritising and mitigating the spread and protect the economy. interesting what she said, right here the public are have always backed prioritising health, but interesting because the economy has also rising up the agenda, so we did a poll over the weekend and if
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you look back in april, 74% of people said put health first. that is now right down to 53%. still a majority but would see the economy creeping up people's agenda, so i think this is the context we are at now with these new measures. it is a very different situation in april and more frustration, there has been concern and anger about the consistency of the messaging as well, and it will be a bit more difficult i think to get that compliance even the on the face of a people may welcome the measures. deborah, you do hear people perhaps more and more saying maybe we need to learn to live with this virus. it will be around for a long time. we just talked to a professor of sociology, that was his view very much that we do need to learn to live with it and that all of these restrictions maybe we just have to do without them. well, i'm not picking up that all from the public. i agree with james emma but i think
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it is very fast—moving with the economy moving up. back in march, things change very quickly and people are now really worried about it again and we picking it up in our diaries andi it again and we picking it up in our diaries and i think the other thing james mentioned i think it is also true is the sense of some concern about the lack of clarity around messaging. so are we meant to be working from home, only if you use ago we were told to get into the office or are we back at home again? i think office or are we back at home again? ithinki office or are we back at home again? i think i went back to some of the people i interviewed from my redwall book, so much into the pandemic to see how they were feeling and they we re see how they were feeling and they were disappointed because that clarity of messaging was one of the things they really liked about boris johnson. and now they are failing welcome is he so good at it? one prices that we voted for a bold and we ended up with waffle. what do you think of that? that's one person said that we voted. it is a bent stop go, stop start. here you had to eat out to help out scheme for example to help out restaurants and set now restaurants and bars and pubs are being told to shut it ten
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o'clock. yes. on the substance and some of these measures i think the public will be quite understanding. on the work from home thing, i think the public probably get that actually you have cases arising so something might need to change. the issue is more the clarity and what exactly the rules are and my focus group, time and time again there is frustration about where is the central repository of information, where is there one place i can go to find all the rules, but also what actually are they and it's interesting how confusing you get when some people don't understand the rule of six. they are acting in good faith but they don't know the difference between indoors and outdoors. a lot of that is because the clarity of her message. interesting because you also pick up frustration about the daily briefings being ended. i think people found those quite a useful source of information and they now feel a little bit more in the dark. messages everything on this. and a final point i messaging come is the fa ct we final point i messaging come is the fact we are getting and reporting on
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all the different messaging and restrictions in the four nations of the united kingdom may be adding somewhat to the confusion?|j the united kingdom may be adding somewhat to the confusion? i think adding to it and going to my original point, i wonder if it will also make people question whether or not what we are doing here is enough because nicola sturgeon is introduced much tougher measures today and people would know that and i think picking that up in the diaries with people saying she sits up diaries with people saying she sits up and we have to follow a week or two later and i wonder if they will be thinking that tonight. deborah andjames, many be thinking that tonight. deborah and james, many thanks to you both for joining and james, many thanks to you both forjoining us tonight on bbc news. thank you for your time. in his first conference speech as labour leader, sir keir starmer has made a direct appeal to voters who abandoned the party at the last election to "take another look" now. he said labour's values would be based on the principles of ‘decency, opportunity and security.‘ and he lashed out at borisjohnson — arguing that he wasn't up to thejob. iain watson reports.
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labour is under new leadership. that was keir starmer‘s message and his warm up act herself was supposed to personify how the party was changing. it is my immense pleasure to introduce the leader of the labour party, keir starmer. ruth smeeth was a prominent critic ofjeremy corbyn's handling of anti—semitism. she lost her seat in stoke at the last election and today in doncaster, keir starmer delivered his speech, literally, in front of a red wall. references to patriotism replaced detailed policies and he listed what he saw as labour's values. decency, fairness, opportunity, compassion and security. that reference to security was designed to address what was seen as a weak spot under jeremy corbyn but keir starmer had an even tougher message for his grassroots. borisjohnson didn't so much as win the last election — labour lost it. we've granted the tories
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a decade of power. the tories have had as many election winners in five years as we've had in 75. it's a betrayal of what we believe in to let this go on. it's time to get serious about winning. he distanced himself from the last labour leader and then from the conservatives, but his blunt attack on borisjohnson wasn't so much about policy as character. whilst borisjohnson was writing flippant columns about bendy bananas, i was defending victims and prosecuting terrorists. while he was being sacked by a newspaperfor making up quotes, i was fighting forjustice and the rule of law. but he said it would not be enough for voters to lose trust in the conservatives. we're not going to win back those we've lost with a single speech or a clever policy offer. trust takes time. to those who have turned
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away from labour, i say this — we hear you. instead of specific policies, he had priorities to close the attainment gap in education and to improve social care. never again will labour take you or the things you care about for granted. and i ask you, take another look at labour. we're under new leadership. keir starmer had an often brutal message to his own party about the need to win power but he was also more brutal than before in attacking the prime minister. then he rushed back to westminster to continue his opposition. so far starmer has tried to prove he is a competent leader but some in his own party even think he lacks inspiration. today he injected passion into a speech in a near empty room but some to the left of his party think he's just clearing the ground to ditch radical policies, while the conservatives accuse him of not doing so.
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he says his next manifesto will feel like the future is coming but it seems his own distinctive set of policies are pretty distant, too. iain watson, bbc news. let's talk about what he has been saying. with me now is sienna rogers, editor of the website labourlist. he said it is time to get serious about winning. kind of implying that jeremy corbyn was not serious. they build attack really throughout the suite onjeremy corbyn. how do you think this has gone down with the labour party members? that's a build attack. this slogan, a new leadership, made that clear from the beginning of this online conference replacing the usual conference because of covid. this really is about marking a new era for the labour party. making sure that people know that actually, his values are quite traditional, you might say socially conservative, he was talking about opportunity, family, security, so all those
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wea knesses family, security, so all those weaknesses of the jeremy corbyn air he was seeking to address it. obviously, that will be quite controversial with party members. his pitch here was certainly to the country rather than the membership. it sounded very different to the kind of things he was talking about during his leadership campaign. then he was talking about defending freedom of movement, he was talking about not straying far from jeremy corbyn in terms of policy and here, really he was talking about those values that he wants to get across and he was talking to those redwall voters that their parents people more likely to be graduates and young and based in the city. he trying to build that coalition and that will create a little bit of tension within the party. in terms of addressing the concerns of those redwall voters you mention, what is he actually going to do in terms of policy and changing party policy? that is the big question. there is a consensus among the leadership that
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with the corbyn error was solid loads of policy, and the 2019 ma nifesto, loads of policy, and the 2019 manifesto, it was big, something to address every problem in society. that did not help a labour to win even though many of those policies we re very even though many of those policies were very well thought through. the priority at the moment especially because of the coronavirus crisis and it is difficult to get cut through at the moment for labour, the priority is getting across barred brushstrokes come about we share your values, we are on your side, and we can be trusted and actually contrasting with boris johnson who is maybe a bit reckless and a bit anti—establishment and thatis and a bit anti—establishment and that is not what we need at the moment. briefly we talked about policy but what about the personality come into watson's at some of the parties that he lacks inspiration from obviously difficult to make a speech in the manner that he had to do today, but do you think thatis he had to do today, but do you think that is a fair criticism of him?|j
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that is a fair criticism of him?” think often people do think he comes across as a little bit robotic and a bit managerial but i actually think today he did a very good job considering it was to an empty room of actually showing some passion, he talked about how angry and frustrated he was and that is something a bit new from keir starmer. i know that the man and and show passion so the fact that that is starting to come through is a positive thing and i think that is that something labour members will appreciate from today. siena, thank you so much for being with us. iremind i remind her of the new covid—19 announced earlier today earlier a reminder now of new covid—19 restrictions for england announced earlier today by the prime minister. boris johnson warned that the uk is at a perilous point in its efforts to combat the pandemic. shop staff will now need to wear face coverings and the rule of six is to be extended to include indoor team sports. weddings will be restricted to 15 guests — though the limit for funerals will be kept at 30. from thursday all bars, restaurants and pubs will need to close at 10pm.
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here is the prime minister speaking earlier this afternoon. i am sorry to say that as in spain and france and many other countries, we have reached a perilous turning point. a month ago, on average around 1,000 people across the uk for testing positive for coronavirus every day. the latest figures almost quadruple to 3,929. yesterday, the chief medical officer and chief scientific adviser warned that the doubling rate for new cases could be between seven and 20 days with the possibility of tens of thousand of new infections next month. i wish i could reassure the house that the growing number of cases is merely a function of more testing, but a rising proportion of the tests themselves
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are yielding a positive result. i also wish i could say that more of our people now have the antibodies to keep the virus off but the latest data suggests that fewer than 8% of us are in this position. it is true that the number of new cases is growing fastest amongst those aged 20 to 29 but the evidence shows that the virus is spreading to other more vulnerable age groups as we have seen in france and spain where this has led to increased hospital admissions and sadly more deaths. in the last fortnight, daily hospital admissions in england have more than doubled. tens of thousands of daily infections in october would as night follows day lead to hundreds of daily deaths in november and those numbers would continue to grow unless we act.
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and as with all respiratory viruses, covid is likely to spread faster as autumn becomes winter. yesterday, on advice of the four medical officers, the alert level was raised from three to four, the second most dangerous stage meaning that infection is rising exponentially. this is the stage where we must act. if we can curb the number of daily infections and reduce the reproduction rate to one, we can save lives, protect the nhs and the most vulnerable and shelter of the economy from the far sterner and more costly measures that would inevitably become necessary later on. so we are acting on the principle that a stitch in time saves nine. the government will introduce new restrictions in england, judged to achieve the maximum reduction in the r number with the minimum damage to lives and livelihoods.
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we are not issuing a general instructions to stay at home and will ensure schools and colleges and universities stay open because nothing is more important than the education and health and well—being of our young people. we will ensure that businesses can stay open in a covid compliant way. we are once again asking office workers that can work from home to do so in key public services and all professions where home—working is not possible such as construction and retail, people should continue to attend their workplaces and like government, this house will be free to take forward its business in a covid secure way which you mr speaker have pioneered.
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from thursday, all pubs and bars and restaurants must operate a table service only except for takeaways. together with all hospitality venues, they must close at 10pm. to help the police enforce this rule, i am afraid that means alas closing and notjust calling for last orders because simplicity is paramount. the same will apply to takeaways although deliveries can continue thereafter. i am sorry this will affect many businesses just getting back on their feet but we must act to stop the virus being transmitted in bars and restaurants. third, we will extend the requirement to wear face coverings to include staff in retail, all users of taxis and private hire vehicles and staff and customers in indoor hospitality except when seated at a table to eat or drink.
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in retail leisure and tourism sectors, our covid secure guidelines will become legal obligations. businesses will be fined and could be closed if they breach the rules. fifth, now is the time to tighten up the rule of six. from monday, a maximum of 15 people will be able to attend wedding ceremonies and receptions although up to 30 can still attend a funeral as of now. we will also have to extend the rule of six to all adult indoor team sports. the virus is now affecting our ability to open business conferences, exhibitions and large sporting events so we will not be able to do this from the first of october and i recognise implications for sports clubs which are the life and soul of our communities, and my right honourable friends the chancellor and cultural secretary are working urgently on what we can do now to support them.
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these rules, these measures, will only work if people comply. there is nothing more frustrating for the vast majority who do comply, the law—abiding majority, than the sight of the few that brazenly defy the rules, so these rules will be enforced by tighter penalties. we have already introduced a fine of up to £10,000 for those who feel of up to £10,000 for those who fail to self—isolate and such fines will now be applied to businesses breaking covid rules. hello there. turned out to be quite a cloudy day but across the middle ends and ascending when we held onto some time for much of the day and that was the scene there in derbyshire earlier on. in the sunshine in suffolk became really quite warmer temperatures reach 26 celsius. but it will get much colder for all of us over it will get much colder for all of us over the next few days. in suffolk we are looking at temperatures dropping by 14 celsius between now and the end of the week. the cold air is on the way at the
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moment. it will arrive by this cold front that will be pushing southwards across the uk. that will continue to bring rain for a time across scotland and northern ireland obr night with the rain clary disguise clary later on as to what we re disguise clary later on as to what were the its into england. at the skies clear across the north it will be in much colder night, cold enough for a touch of frost on the grass for a touch of frost on the grass for some areas of scotland and england and england wills of the state still just about england and england wills of the state stilljust about into that mild air. due wednesday, the cold front will continue to push southward and eastward self outbreaks of rain all areas. the rain will turn increasingly heavy across the east. shower and followed to western england and wales, scotla nd to western england and wales, scotland and northern ireland having the best of the dry weather and sunshine but this is where we will see some of the lower daytime temperatures. highs of around 12 or i3 temperatures. highs of around 12 or 13 degrees. a much coolerfor temperatures. highs of around 12 or 13 degrees. a much cooler for here. wednesday evening it could turn quite when he for a time around some of these channel coast and the north sea coast from an area of low pressure forms. that low then spends
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its way toward scandinavia to replace by another area of low pressure quickly arriving to our southwest. so it will be another u nsettled southwest. so it will be another unsettled day on thursday with heavy outbreaks of rain around, strong winds reaching gale force across parts of southwest england perhaps other wales as well although the strongest ones will probably arrive to thursday night and it could be strong enough to bring down some tree branches, some parts of northern scotland and perhaps some areas of northern ireland staying drier but it will be cool for all of us. drier but it will be cool for all of us. friday, northerly winds around, showers are longer smell the rain coming down on those northerly winds affecting the north sea coast of you scotla nd affecting the north sea coast of you scotland and eastern areas of england. in the wind will feel quite chilly in the top temperatures between 11 and 13 degrees for many of us, that weekend still fairly when the weekend still fairly windy on saturday but the winds eased down on saturday but the winds eased down on sunday and it will stay on the chilly side. that is your weather.
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the uk is at a perilous turning point says the prime minister as new restrictions are introduced across the uk amid another big rise in coronavirus cases. the new measures are being imposed for six months in england, with a warning there could be more to come. if we fail to act together now, we will not only place others at risk, butjeopardise our own futures with the more drastic action that we would inevitably be forced to take. the push to return to the office is over, as people across england are told to work from home if they can. it's just been nice to actually get back into an office, we'd started to get into a routine, so to go back on that now
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