tv Tuesday in Parliament BBC News September 23, 2020 2:30am-3:00am BST
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plane ever before, breaking the record by six minutes. this is bbc news — the headlines: president trump has said it's horrible that the number of deaths from coronavirus in the united states has exceeded 200,000. but mr trump said his intervention had helped reduce the toll. democratic critics have highlighted what they say is mr trump's ineffectual response to the pandemic. the british prime minister — borisjohnson — has used a national television address to call for a ‘spirit of togetherness‘ — urging people to observe the new rules he‘s bringing in to combat the rapid rise in coronavirus infections. he said the country faced an unquestionably difficult winter ahead. the body that represents the airline industry is calling for all passengers to be tested for coronavirus before they travel. the international air transport association says it would be a better alternative than putting people in quarantine. the industry is facing huge losses as a result of the pandemic. now on bbc news,
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tuesday in parliament. hello and welcome to tuesday in parliament. coming up in the next half hour: borisjohnson says the uk has reached "a perilous turning point" as he announces tougher coronavirus restrictions. unless we palpably make prgress, we should assume that the restrictions i‘ve announced will remain in place for perhaps six months. but labour worries there‘s no clear strategy. one day people are encouraged to work in the office. in fact, more than encouraged. they were openly challenged by the prime minister for not doing so. today, they‘re told the opposite.
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scotland‘s first minister puts a ban on visiting other people‘s homes but recognises the sacrifices already being made. let‘s keep going, try to keep smiling, keep hoping and keep looking out for each other. be strong, be kind and let‘s continue to act out of love and solidarity. but first, the prime minister has warned that new restrictions in england to slow the spread of the coronavirus could last for six months. in a statement to mps, he confirmed a 10pm closing time for pubs. he encouraged people once again to work from home where possible and said face coverings should be worn more widely, for example by shop staff and in taxis and he said weddings but not funerals will be limited to a maximum of 15 people. borisjohnson said the uk had reached "a perilous turning point". a month ago a thousand people a day were testing positive for coronavirus, and that was now nearly 4,000. this is the moment when we must act. if we can curve the number of daily infections and reduce the reproduction rate to one,
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then we can save lives, protect the nhs and the most vulnerable and shelter the economy from the far sterner and more costly measures that would inevitably become necessary later on, so we‘re acting on the principal that a stitch in time saves nine. these rules, these measures, will only work if people comply. and there is nothing more frustrating for the vast majority who do comply, the law—abiding majority, than the sight of a few brazenly defying the rule. so these rules will be enforced by tighter penalties. so fines of up to 10,000 pounds would apply to businesses which broke the rules and the penalties for people breaking the rule of six or not wearing a face covering would double to £200 for a first offence.
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i must emphasise that if all of our actions fail to bring the r below one, we reserve the right to deploy greater firepower with significantly greater restrictions. i fervently want to avoid taking this step, but we will only be able to avoid it if our new measures work and our behaviour changes. we will spare no effort in developing vaccines, treatments, new forms of mass testing, but unless we palpably make progress, we should assume that the restrictions i have announced will remain in place for perhaps six months. families across the country will be anxious today. many are already living under local lockdowns. many more fear that soon they will. they're worried about theirjobs, loved ones, whether they will be able to spend christmas with their families. they will also be worried that the government does not have a clear strategy. one day, people are encouraged to work in the office. in fact, more than encouraged.
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they were openly challenged by the prime minister for not doing so. today, they are told the opposite. this is a time of national crisis and we need clear leadership. what emergency financial support will be made available to those that need it? there was nothing in the prime minister's statement about that. there is a big gap here. and will he now accept that withdrawing the furlough scheme in one fell swoop would be a disaster? we all know that u—turns and mixed messaging have come to define this government and the 10th ofjuly, the prime minister said go back to work if you can. 0n the 14th of august, the chancellor said it was crucial that we do our bit such as going back to our place of work and on the 27th of august, government sources said go back to work, or risk losing yourjob. the prime minister has changed his advice this morning on working from home. it is now time to change his mind on furlough as well.
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mr speaker, there was one major mission from the prime minister‘s statement and apology. so will the government now apologised for his government‘s gi’oss incompetence over testing, over tracing over clear communications that have led to these latest restrictions on people‘s daily lives? the public have shown a vast capacity for putting others first during this pandemic and now they are being asked to do more. but in return, the government needs to do more for them. public consent is dependent on not being forced into financial ruin. all of these restrictions on our constituents' lives require their ongoing consent and it is is incumbent on government, scientists who advise him and parliament to stress test these decisions and crucially the evidence that lies behind them. there were some tetchy exchanges over the testing system. does he think that the reason germany and italy have far lower covid rates than us, with life continuing more or less normally, might be because they have locally and publicly run test and trace services that actually work? no, mrspeaker.
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i don't and i think the attacks on local test and trace, and what the nhs test and trace have done are undermining and unnecessary. and actually, there is an important difference between our country and many other countries around the world. that is that our country is a freedom loving country. my constituent was not able to access a test for her son, sent home from school and asked to travel 300 miles for a test. despite the fact i raised this case in this chamber last week and received assurances from the health secretary, she still cannot get a test and she still has had no contact. prime minister, when will you fix the testing system? i increasingly think it is disgraceful that the labour opposition continue to blame nhs test and trace for the resurgence of the disease. i really think that is... it is a complete hiatus in their logic.
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there is a complete hiatus in their logic. they are talking absolute nonsense. it is not... testing and tracing has very little or nothing to do with the spread of the transmission of the disease. the spread of the transmission of the disease is caused by contact between human beings and all the things that we are trying to minimise. and that is why, of course nhs test and trace is vital, but the way to fix the problem now, the way to fix a problem now is for the whole country to follow this package of guidance, drive the r number down and allow both education and the economy to continue. borisjohnson. meanwhile in holyrood the first minister, nicola sturgeon announced a ban on visiting other people‘s homes in scotland. the measure is already in place in glasgow and some neighbouring areas. but she said it would be rolled out across the country in an attempt to get the virus under control again before winter. she also confirmed that scotland would be following
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england in imposing a 10pm curfew on pubs. one of the reasons we have decided to do this is that our early data suggest that this restriction is starting to slow the increase of cases in the west of scotland. so if we take the difficult decision to extend it nationwide now, in an early and preventative way, we hope it will help to bring the r number down and the virus back under control. there will be exceptions for those living alone or alone with children who form extended households, for couples in non—cohabitant relationships for the informal childcare by for example grandparents and for tradespeople. she said everyone could make choices. please don‘t meet people in their homes or your home because that is where the virus often spreads. limit how often you meet up with people in public places and abide by the rules enforced there. work from home if you can, follow the advice on self isolation if you have symptoms,
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test positive or in contact with somebody who has the virus. let‘s pull together, let‘s keep going, try to keep smiling, keep hoping and keep looking out for each other. be strong, be kind and let‘s continue to act out of love and solidarity. i will never be able to thank all of you enough for the sacrifices you have made so far. and i am sorry to have to ask for more but if we stick with it and if we stick together, i do know we will get through this. while restrictions on care home visiting has eased a little over recent months, and this has been welcome, the reality is there are some family members who have not been able or allowed to visit their loved ones for a full six months, causing enormous stress and impact on health. the head of the care home industry said this week that the longer we keep people apart, the more people will be lost to the covid response rather than to the disease itself. part of the reason for acting quickly and substantially to try to drive community transmission down again it so that we don‘t have to go
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backwards in our plan to open up care home visiting. labour want the government to succeed in containing the virus and saving lives and livelihoods. but that also depends not just on the renewed efforts of the people, it also depends on the consent, trust, and confidence of the people. the first minister told us in the spring and the summer that she was taking a more cautious approach, something we supported. she said she was aiming for elimination of the virus and praised people for sticking by the guidance. but now the r number has doubled, broadly similar to the rest of the uk and the incident rate in some parts here isjust like many parts of england. so when they have sacrificed so much, people want to know why this has happened. can the first minister help to explain why? there is not a country in the world right now i don‘t think that is not having
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to face these challenges. we see the virus run out of control again in many countries across europe, some are ahead of us and we‘re trying to avoid following that trajectory. so this is difficult. it is difficult for everybody. but this is a global pandemic of an infectious virus. and until we get this vaccine, we are going to have to flex the way we live our lives in order to contain it. nicola sturgeon. in wales, the first minister was asked about comments from his health minister vaughan gething. a conservative was clearly concerned by what she‘d heard him say on the itv wales programme sharp end. the health minister said he would not rule it out for making it compulsory for people to have a covid—i9 vaccine if and when one becomes available. now, that‘s compulsory vaccines, first minister. did you know that he was going to say this or was that another piece of information that the health minister has kept from you? and what is there in such a statement? it‘s a completely orwellian statement. a real attack on freedoms which makes you think that anybody should dare trust the future labour government? the health minister was asked a hypothetical question
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would he rule something out, he simply said he would not. he did not, he went no further than that. no implication to what he said that he had made a decision of any sort. and in this context, in the context of coronavirus when so much is unknown and where stakes are so high, to have ruled out something at this stage i think would not have been a responsible thing to have done. and i think he was absolutely right in the answer he gave. plaid cymru‘s leader turned to the coronavirus changes announced by boris johnson. could he say whether he agrees with what the opposition parties in westminster have been saying, that while the uk health minister has emphasised a lack of public adherence to the rules in getting us to this point, it is also true there have been some policy mistakes which have contributed to getting to this position, which begs two questions, what is going wrong that needs to be put right, what are the lessons
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that we have learned, and what is the government‘s vision and planning in terms of the next six months? across wales, i think the majority of people continue to very carefully and very scrupulously observed the rules. they want to do the right thing and they want to know what the right thing is to do. there is a small minority of people who somehow took the message from the summer when we were reducing restrictions that the coronavirus was over. those of the people we have to convince that they need to go back to observing all of the things that they were doing earlier in the summer and that will be meaning that the effort across wales will be strengthened again. and a short time later the health minister, vaughan gething made a statement announcing tighter restrictions in four more council areas, with another eight being monitored for possible extra restrictions.
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you‘re watching tuesday in parliament, with me, alicia mccarthy. now, the house of lords has backed a measure requiring the government to introduce a compliance badge to confirm that food meets uk standards. the idea behind the labour amendment is to give consumers the chance to avoid purchasing food produced overseas to lower environmental and animal welfare standards such as chicken washed in chlorine and cows fed with growth hormones. consumers care about the welfare implications in, for example, us production methods that necessitate the chickens need chlorination to be made safe. they don‘t want to chlorinated chicken or hormone treated beef to be permitted to be imported and available on supermarket shelves. voters that voted to get brexit done can be forgiven for thinking this was going to be enshrined in legislation. after all, it was in the
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conservative party manifesto. at the very start of this bill, i said to the minister, "you have actually managed" — not him personally — "the government has actually managed to unite the national farmers' union, greenpeace, consumer organisations, supermarkets, the green party, and the great british public." and i said then that i think it probably means the government has got it wrong. and this is possibly the most important amendment that we are going to discuss through the whole of the bill because it's one that almost everybody in britain cares about. lord krebs said that while defra had insisted it wouldn‘t compromise on food standards, questions remained. it‘s only by supporting amendment 89 za and amendment 93 that we can be sure that the government is bound to its commitment not to import food of lower standards than our own domestic products. i look forward to the noble
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lord the minister‘s answers to my questions but as things stand, i will support these amendments if there is a vote and i urge other noble lords to do the same. none of the 20 continuity trade agreements which have been signed to date would undermine domestic standards. this demonstrates the government's commitment that we will not compromise on our high standards in trade agreements. now, i'm fully aware my lords that until all the trade agreements have been signed and settled, some of your lordships simply will not believe until those have gone through that that is the case, but i am looking forward my lords to those noble lords who are determined that this is not the case will at least have the courtesy of saying to me, "actually, ourfears have been allayed." and when it came to the vote, the amendment on upholding british food standards was backed by 307 peers with 212 voting against. back in the commons, mps continued their detailed debate on the internal
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market bill. it gives the government powers to change the brexit divorce deal it agreed with the eu. now, ministers say they need the provisions to make sure goods can trade freely across the whole of the uk afterjanuary the 1st. but opposition and some tory backbenchers reckon ministers shouldn‘t breach international law and that the move will damage the uk‘s reputation around the world. a senior law officer in the lords, lord keen, and the government‘s most senior lawyer, sirjonathanjones, have quit over the row. resignations raised by labour atjustice questions at the start of the day. on the 30th ofjuly, 2019 in the royal courts ofjustice, the lord chancellor made an oath that no other member of the cabinet is required to make. he said, "i do swear that in the office of lord high chancellor of great britain, i will respect the rule of law."
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lord keen, the advocate generalfor scotland, and jonathan jones, head of the government‘s legal department, resigned because the government‘s internal markets bill does not respect the rule of law. can i ask the lord chancellor whether he thinks lord keen and jonathan jones got it wrong, and if so, how? if not, can i ask him how he can turn up in this house with a straight face after voting to betray his oath and break the law? secretary buckland. mr speaker, that is a very serious allegation to make. i took that oath in english and welsh. i took it twice, and i believe in it in both languages and indeed any language. and i'm sorry that he takes that view. i have done everything i possibly can consistent with that oath to make sure that this government acts in a way that is consistent with the rule of law — that is what is happening.
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this house is directly involved quite properly in these deliberations, these serious deliberations. amendments are being made to this bill as we speak, and the contingency in which these exceptional provisions are to be used has been clearly set out. these are unprecedented times. we do not want to see a breach in any obligations either by us or by the eu. but it would be irresponsible if we did not make those necessary preparations. that is why i am here and that is why i will continue to be here as long as i feel able to discharge my oath, and i can tell him that i feel very able to discharge my oath thus far. this bill gives the lord chancellor and other ministers the power to run a coach and horses through their obligations under the withdrawal agreement. i know members opposite don't like that, but that's the reality. now, just how, in light of what the english court of appeal have said, is this bill compatible with his oath as lord chancellor to uphold the rule of law?
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as i've said to the honourable and learned lady, the contingency which underlies the coming into force and use of these powers is a very narrowly and clearly delineated one. i do not believe, as i've said in public, that we are there at that stage and i don't believe we will get to that stage if both parties renew their efforts, act in good faith and double down on making sure we get that resolution. it would've been far easier for us to avoid the issue to pretend that there wasn't going to be a problem and then for us to hit the new year with an avalanche of difficulties when it came to northern ireland and its relationship with the rest of the united kingdom. the video sharing app tiktok, which is popular with teenagers around the world, says it wants to work with other social media platforms to remove material which promotes suicide. when a senior executive from the company appeared before mps he was asked about a recent incident when footage of a man taking his own life was loaded onto the service. the timeline was august the 31st, a man live—streamed his own death by suicide
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on facebook live. a small number of clips were uploaded to our platform in the immediate days after. and then on the evening of september the 6th, we saw a huge spike in the volume of clips being uploaded. let me talk about how that content was uploaded. there is evidence of a coordinated attack. through our investigations, we know that groups operating on the dark web made plans to raid social media platforms including tiktok in order to spread the video across the internet. what we saw was a group of users who were repeatedly attempting to upload the video to our platform, slicing it, editing it, cutting it in different ways, and join the platform in order to try and draw in that amount. i don‘t want to say too much probably in this forum about how we detect and manage that but our emergency machine learning services kicked in and they detected the videos and we quickly removed them.
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he said one view of this type of content was one too many and tiktok was taking steps to prevent a repeat of the incident. last night, we were able to — the ceos of facebook, insta, google, youtube, twitter, twitch, snapchat, pinterest and reddit, and what we are proposing is that in the same way these companies already work together around child sexual abuse imagery with organisations like internet watch foundation and another group in the us, and the way we already work together around terrorist related content, we should now establish a partnership around dealing with this type of content. so, we know we have to do better and our hearts go out to the victim in this case, but we do believe that we can do even better in the future. tiktok may be popular with young teenagers
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but donald trump isn‘t a fan. he has threatened to shut down the app on security grounds because of its parent company‘s ties to china. tiktok has been criticised for its policies that reportedly have censored politically sensitive issues to the ccp including the repression of the uighurs, taiwan, tibet. the guardian and the intercept have reported on leaked documents that people may be banned for criticising the military, of china's repression of the uighurs and discussing incidents such as tiananmen square and incidents among other things. do you accept that such policies are corrosive and unacceptable ? yes, i categorically agree with you. those are not our policies. but why do you think it is being reported that they are your policies if they are not your policies as you say? i think there are deep concerns about xinjiang, about what‘s happening there. there are broader concerns
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around china and china‘s role in the world, and i think that those concerns are projected onto tiktok but i don‘t think they are always fairly projected onto tiktok. so, what i would say is tiktok is not the same thing as china. but those are not our policies and you can go onto the app and just search for any of those terms and find content. i also invite you to come and meet our content moderators. you can see our content integration for yourself and you can meet the team which is headed up by cormac keenan, who is our head of trust and safety in dublin. we can meet the moderators that we have in london, and i can promise you our policies allow all of these things. there is no political censorship of this kind. the management team in europe will not allow it nor will they allow it in the us. this does not happen on our platform.
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it may happen elsewhere and i can tell you what your official tiktok response was to this leak. you didn't deny that these were instructions. in fact you confirmed that these were instructions. but what you said was that the company had changed its policy in may 2019. so, previously, you instructed your moderators to take down videos critical of china, specifically talking about incidents in tiananmen square, separatism in tibet, all straight out of the chinese communist party playbook. you confirmed that was what your moderators did but your defence was that you changed your policy in may of 2019. and it‘s highly regrettable that that‘s what it was but it is not our policies today nor has it been for a long time. the culture, media and sport committee talking to tiktok there. and that‘s it from me for another day but do join me at the same time tomorrow for the best of the day from westminster, including the highlights from prime minister‘s questions. but for now from me, alicia mccarthy, goodbye.
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hello there. tuesday marked the autumn equinox, and also the last of these very warm and sunny days. we saw 26 degrees in santon downham in suffolk on tuesday afternoon. by friday, it looks like temperatures in suffolk will only manage to make around 12 or 13 degrees. so, noticeably colder as we end the week. and the change comes behind this cold front, which is slowly spreading its way southwards and eastwards early on wednesday. ahead of it, there will be a lot of cloud around. some showers too, longer spells of rain, some of which could be on the heavy, maybe thundery side. but for scotland and northern ireland, skies will be clearing behind the weather front. so we start wednesday off on a chilly note here. but again, for england and wales, where we have the weather fronts, the cloud and rain, it‘s going to be quite mild, 12—15 degrees to begin the day. but a lot more cloud on wednesday for england and
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wales. outbreaks of rain tending to become more persistent as it pushes eastwards. some heavier bursts again across the south—east, and winds will pick up as well probably the best of the sunshine through the day will be scotland and northern ireland, but it will be chillier here, low teens celsius, 14 to maybe 19 across the south—east. but it looks like it could be quite went across the south—east of england into the evening. persistent rain here, winds also picking up across the north sea coast, across the south—east and across the south coast as well. that‘s because area of low pressure will eventually push off towards scandinavia, and a new area of pressure will arrive just in time for thursday. now, this one‘s going to bring some windy weather too. showers or longer spells of rain, some of which could be quite heavy. there will be some sunshine around, probably the best of it across the northern part of scotland, but the winds will become a feature across south wales and south—west england, 40, 50mph. and it‘s going to be cool, 11—14 celsius across the country. as we move out of thursday into friday, that area of low pressure continues to push over towards the north sea
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and the near continent. then we‘re in the run of pretty cool, brisk northerly winds. looks like most showers will be packing into northern and eastern areas closer to that area of low pressure. the further south nd west you are, the better chance of seeing some sunshine, actually. not feeling too bad in the sunshine but in some not feeling too bad in the sunshine, but in some shade in that northerly wind, it will feel cool. things look like they‘ll settle down a little bit thanks to a ridge of high pressure into the weekend but it‘s still going to remain on the cool side, both by day and by night.
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welcome to bbc news, i‘m mike embley. our top stories: another momentous number as the death toll in america rises: 200,000 have now lost their lives. new covid restrictions in the uk: more masks, less socialising and bigger fines for those who don‘t adhere to the rules. never in our history has our collective destiny and our collective health depended so completely on our individual behaviour. a plea for help: the airline industry calls for the covid testing of all passengers to try and get flights back in the air. and one giant step for a woman? nasa says it‘s heading back to the moon and this time, the crew will be male and female.
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