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this is bbc news. i'm reeta chakrabarti. the headlines. there are warnings of tighter coronavirus measures to come if people don't stick to the rules — as the prime minister defends the test and trace system from criticism. we are not only at a record high today, testing more people than any other european country but to get to the point he raises, we will go up to 500,000 tests by the end of october! the labour leader sir keir starmer says now is not the time for another referendum on scottish independence — and says the focus needs to be on dealing with the economy. we will be going into that if action in may making it very clear that another divisive referendum on independence in scotland, it is not
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what is needed. what is needed is intense focus on rebuilding the economy, on making sure public services are rebuilt as well, and dealing with the pandemic. the damaging effect on pubs a nd restau ra nts forced to change the way they serve, and closing at 10pm from tomorrow. plans to bring back spectators at live sporting events next month are also on hold. the us pays tribute to justice ruth bader ginsburg. she will lie in repose on the front steps of the supreme court where she served for 27 years. queues of 7,000 lorries in kent and two—day waits. the government warning to hauliers if they don't get ready for brexit. a desperate race against time to save a group of pilot whales stranded off the coast of tasmania. nearly 400 have already died.
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good afternoon. the chancellor, rishi sunak, will update mps tomorrow on plans to protectjobs through the winter. 0pposition parties have been calling for urgent action to replace the treasury's job retention scheme — which ends next month, after a raft of new restrictions were announced yesterday. it comes as the prime minister defends the latest restrictions aimed at tackling the rising number of coronavirus infections. tighter restrictions in all four uk nations have been announced, with stricter measures in scotland and northern ireland where households are not allowed to mix. the prime minister warned the changes could last up to six months. in the latest government figures — there's been a jump in coronavirus cases — 6,178 new infections have been recorded — that's up from 4,926 yesterday. a further 37 people have died within 28 days of testing positive with the virus. that takes the total number of deaths across the uk to 41,862.
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0ur correspondent naomi grimley has the latest on the restrictions across the uk. it is six months since our streets became deserted in a way none of us, bar a sci—fi movie producer, could ever have imagined. now as we head into winter the big question is are these latest measures enough to stop us going in to lock down again? this couple knows to their cost how quickly the rules keep changing. the government has slashed the number of people at weddings from 30 to 15. my partner said to me we married for love not for show. that's quite right, we love each other, so we will go ahead and marry. we are just confused to the new rules. and the venue has said it is covid—restricted secure and we could have 30 guests
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but all of a sudden the change. it's literally going to be us, our two children, parents and grandparents and that's it. the other changes include a 10pm curfew on bars and restaurants which the government claims has worked well in belgium. and as these people in glasgow discovered when they listened to nicola sturgeon‘s announcement, there is now a ban on people in scotland visiting other people's homes unless for good reasons, like childcare. the single greatest weapon... borisjohnson has held off going that far but some scientists who advise number 10 think tougher measures are inevitable. i don't think the measures have gone anywhere near far enough. in fact, i don't think the measures in scotland have gone far enough and i suspect we will see very stringent measures coming in place throughout the uk at some point but it'll be too late again, we will have let the epidemic double and double and double again. at this university campus in dundee, they are finding out just how disruptive things can get after an outbreak meant 500 students
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had to self—isolate. ministers are under intense pressure to get testing sorted after it became apparent the system can't keep pace with the demands of autumn. the nhs test and trace app... tomorrow will see the new tracing app which had its launch delayed from the summer. in the meantime the message is do your bit to prevent a second lockdown. if everyone follows them and no one thinks they are immune or they don't have a role to play, if we pull together as we did during the peak of the virus, we will get through this, i am confident about that, we will get to christmas with schools, the economy open, view social interactions that we all need as individuals and then we can look forward in the new year. the flurries of meetings between the scientists and politicians will continue as they wait to see if our collective action does the trick. naomi grimley, bbc news.
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let's get more from our political correspondent helen catt in westminster. two announcements from the treasury this afternoon both significant. one thing on and one thing off, the one thing on and one thing off, the one thing off is the autumn budget we we re thing off is the autumn budget we were expecting to get in later this year sometime in november i think it was expected. that's now not going to happen because the treasury source says essay of the uncertainty caused by the public finances around the covid pandemic. we look at the spending review which might cover one year rather than three and that looks at the overall shape of government spending but we will not be getting the full budget. of more immediate into trust might be the other announcement that is coming. —— immediate interest. we understand rishi sunak is giving a statement to the house of commons. we understand he will announce assistance for the
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economy. there has been a lot of pressure on him for him to do that since those restrictions were announced last night, those curves on hospitality in particular, there has been concerned about how the impact will be on the sort of businesses particularly with the furlough scheme coming to the end next month and we see labour, the snp portion of this in the comments and nicola sturgeon the first minister in scotland pushing on this from outside westminster if you like and the shadow chancellor had an urgent question granted tomorrow which will make the minister come and set things out. we understand he will be making this statement tomorrow. it is understood he is not going to be suggesting some sort of sector by sector type support, that is something labour have been suggesting could be happening but instead what we understand is being considered are various forms of wage subsidies for industries that are under pressure. a treasury source that no one wanted to be in the situation but we need to respond to this and the chancellor has shown he
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has been creative in the past. we hope people will continue to trust us hope people will continue to trust us in that vein. helen, thank you very much for that. helen catt there with that update. 486 people have tested positive for coronavirus in scotland since yesterday. nicola sturgeon said it was the highest daily figure recorded so far. people in scotland are banned from visiting other households with some exceptions. ms sturgeon says she was advised that a curfew on pubs and restaurants wouldn't be enough to curb infections. the first minister also urged people not to book overseas travel for the october school holiday. lorna gordon is in glasgow and gave us this update. it's six months since the country was put into lockdown and today, here in scotland, people are being asked to adhere to some pretty tough measures once again. it's not a full lockdown but people are being told they mustn't visit each other for social reasons in their homes. there are some limited exceptions, for tradespeople, for child care, for couples living apart, for instance, but everyone else,
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if we don't adhere to that rule, we will ultimately face a fine. this comes on a day when 486 people, as you say, tested positive for the virus here in scotland. that represents 7.8% of those newly tested. it is the highest figure so far for the number of people testing positive, albeit with a heavy caveat, of course, that more people are being tested now than at the height of the pandemic in march and april but nonetheless, the first minister nicola sturgeon says this underlines why the scottish government has taken the action it has to try and stem the spread of the virus between households. we are in the phase of a pandemic, of a virus, that as yet has no vaccine. with that virus on the rise again and winter ahead of us, if we are to achieve these priorities, we have to make sacrifices elsewhere. no country right now is able to have 100% normality. so the measures we announced yesterday are tough but they are absolutely essential. and they are targeted to deal
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with some very specific factors, which we know are helping to drive transmission. well of course, the other measure that will come into force in scotland on friday is a curfew on the opening hours of pubs and restaurants. they will have to close at 10pm, nicola sturgeon said that she might have gone further in restricting the hospitality industry if she had been able to offer better financial support, and she said she would be writing to the prime minister borisjohnson calling for urgent discussions on extending the furlough scheme or allowing the devolved administrations greater financial flexibility. the bbc‘s lorna gordon speaking there. the first minister of wales, mark drakeford, says he has no plans for further lockdowns, and will give existing measures time to work. mr drakeford said efforts were being concentrated on the six welsh counties already in lockdown but they could be extended to new areas if necessary. he also said pubs, clubs, bars and restaurants in wales will not have to close their doors
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at 10pm under new coronavirus restrictions. he stated that 10pm would be the time that alcohol sales must end. people are also no longer allowed to visit each other‘s homes in northern ireland. the restrictions were brought in last night. first minister arlene foster called it a "wake—up call". northern ireland is the only part of the uk not to introduce curfews for bars and restaurants. the northern ireland executive will meet tomorrow to consider further measures. we can speak now to dr david nabarro — special envoy of who director—general on covid—19. he's also co—director of global health at the institute of global health innovation, imperial college, london, and joins me now. thank you so much for giving us your time this afternoon. a whole host of restrictions announced yesterday and they differ of course in different parts of the uk. do you think if you
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can speak in a general sort of way they go far enough? firstly, i must say i am impressed that an effort is being made to do enough to stop this virus from spreading without imposing widespread lockdown. we are not really generally in favour of lockdowns because they have such massive consequences on people's social and economic lives. and they also reduce the amount that the virus spreads but they don't get rid of it. so what we would really encourage everybody in every country to do but particularly in western europe where there is a worry about resurgence and it's happening is the following. first, everybody and i mean everybody to follow the universal precautions of masking, of
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physical distancing, practising good hygiene, isolating when they are sick, and protecting the vulnerable. you've got to do everything. and then secondly, we would really like basic health services to be working well enough so that it's possible to use testing to find out where the virus is. and then encourage local responses to make sure that people when they have got the virus are isolated and their contacts are isolated. and it's that second part, the isolation to interrupt transmission that is so important and has to be put in place as well as the restrictions. interesting to hear you say that because you may be aware that the prime minister has said yesterday that testing and tracing has very little or nothing to do with the spread transmission of covid—19 but it does have something to do with the control and containment of it. exactly and your words are so right. you know, you
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can't stop this virus unless you can isolate people who've got it. it's a very crude way that we treat infectious diseases, it has been used for centuries really, and that is what we have got to do with this one because there is no cure. so you absolutely have to isolate people with the virus and even if they are not very ill, your worry is not so much the person themselves. your worry is who they might give the virus to because as all of us know, you might end up giving the virus to somebody who is much weaker than yourself and they could go and die even though you don't have very serious illness. so you are so right in my view, the testing and the tracing is absolutely key. a lot of people will be listening to you and thinking we went through a more severe lockdown in the spring, then restrictions were eased over the summer. would it have been better to have endured more pain over the
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summer in order to prevent what's going on now which is a rise in cases although not apparently at the same level they were six months ago? i wish it wasn't like it is in the uk. i have children and grandchildren so i'm talking with feeling. but what i'm finding in countries that are managing this virus well that they have invested in this testing, tracing and isolating procedure and they took advantage of the lockdown to build it up all over the country. i think if uk had been a bit more fortunate with their testing, tracing and isolating programme, that it might be less necessary to impose restrictions because the ideal is that you live with the virus as a co nsta nt that you live with the virus as a constant threat. you defend against it by being on the overage, and you stop it from becoming a problem by isolating people as soon as they've
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got the disease. but it is really ha rd to got the disease. but it is really hard to do that when you're testing capacity is at its limit and your turnaround on tests is several days. then the virus will beat you because it is so quick at moving from person—to—person. it is so quick at moving from person-to-person. that is an interesting word, if the uk had been more fortunate. is it a question of luck or is it a question of the wrong decisions having been taken? the reason i am rather careful with my words is that i am not in government, i don't know the issues that have been faced. and i have seen looking at different countries around the world that this testing issue has become really challenging. there is a global shortage of testing capacity and the reason for thatisitis testing capacity and the reason for that is it is a difficult test to do. some countries have been lucky they had the infrastructure on which they had the infrastructure on which they could build and they could ramp up they could build and they could ramp up their testing capacity really quickly. 0ther up their testing capacity really quickly. other countries, and that includes the uk, have been less fortu nate includes the uk, have been less
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fortunate because they did not have lots of what we call pcr testing capacity and building up whilst in the middle of a pandemic has clearly been quite difficult. ok, we are going to have to leave it there for some very going to have to leave it there for some very good to talk to you as always. that is dr david nabarro from the world health organization. thank you. the headlines on bbc news. the government defends the new coronavirus restrictions but there are warnings of tougher measures to come if people don't stick to the rules. the labour leader sir keir starmer says now is not the time for another referendum on scottish independence — and says the focus needs to be on dealing with the economy. the damaging effect on pubs and restaurants forced to change the way they serve and closing at 10pm from tomorrow. the labour leader sir keir starmer has refused to rule out the possibility of supporting another scotland independence referendum.
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speaking to the our political editor, laura kuenssberg, sir keir repeatedly said he would argue against another referendum during the scottish elections next year but did not rule out an independence vote in the future. he was also asked how he would take labour forwards, after yesterday telling the party — at a speech in doncaster — that labour deserved to lose the last general election. the message i was getting across yesterday is if you lose an election ina yesterday is if you lose an election in a democracy, you don't turn and say, "what were you thinking?" you look at yourself and you ask what we re look at yourself and you ask what were you doing respect because if we don't get that lesson we will not go to the next general election understanding the scale at the task at what we have got to do to win back trust. but you said more than that yesterday. your message and blazoned on your left turn and slogan at the conference this year was under new leadership. you said the party was such on security, not
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trusting on brexit, on anti—semitism. you lead to serious charges at the jeremy corbyn project, did you not? we are a party under new leadership and that does mean recognising the scale of the loss. it does mean making it clear that never again will the labour party go into an election not being trusted on national security, not being trusted on the economy, not being trusted on the economy, not being trusted on communities. that is very important to us going forward and i was making the point yesterday that i did not come into politics to be in opposition. i came in politics to be cut —— to pay —— change muscles up and i speak for the whole labour movement. but for people to trust you they have to trust what you do. you told us that you believe in moral socialism which did not some very concrete. now you are promising in 2024 people will hear the sound of the future arriving. what on earth does that mean impressed tax? and brass tacks i want this country to be the best place to grow up the best place to
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grow old and the best place to grow then. i think that is very clear, and at times we have got a lot of what the public are concerned about and what they want for their country. on that point there is one very important question that people do want to be answered that is not about policy detail, not you would ever support another referendum on scottish independence. that is a question of principle and it is not, before you say it, a hypothetical. that is going to be the central question in the scottish elections next year. would you ever support another referendum on independence for scotland? we have to make our argument going into that argument —— election next may and our argument will be that we do not need another divisive independence referendum? ever? that is the argument we will be making from now into may, that was the discussion i had with scottish labour in scotland last year and the focus should be on rebuilding the economy and defeating the virus... usa not now, are you saying today that you would never back another referendum on
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independence in scotland? —— you are saying that now. i am setting out the position that in may we will be taking... you cannot say the right not because people are here and you cannot... we don't know what will happen after may and in politics people tell you with great certainty what is going to happen next year and a year after. but it doesn't a lwa ys and a year after. but it doesn't always turn out that way. what kind of opponent do you think boris johnson is? in a period like this? everybody is looking to the prime minister to be reassured. everybody actually wants the prime minister and government to succeed in defeating and managing the virus. and so character matters in a moment like this more perhaps than in other times because everybody is invested and whether the government gets it right and succeeds, whether that is on the health front, they are worried about themselves and their families, or whether it is on the economy and their jobs. families, or whether it is on the economy and theirjobs. his character is the wrong one?” economy and theirjobs. his character is the wrong one? i don't think he's got the right character for this. and i don't think he's up
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to it. search here, think you very much indeed. —— keir starmerthank you. that was keir starmer speaking to laura kuenssberg. ministers have warned there could be queues of 7,000 lorries in kent at the end of the brexit transition period on the 1st of january if haulage companies don't prepare for new customs arrangements. speaking in the commons michael gove said just one in four businesses believe they are "fully ready" for the post—brexit arrangements as he outlined the government's reasonable worst case scenario. i should stress that this is not a prediction or a forecast. it's just a prudent exercise in setting out what could, in the worst circumstances, occur if we don't improve preparedness. and of course, if our neighbours declined to be pragmatic. the scenario builds on an estimate that only 50% to 70% of large businesses and just 20% to 40% of small and medium—sized enterprises would be ready for the strict application of new eu requirements. in those circumstances, that could mean that only between 30% and 60% of laden hgvs would arrive at the border with the necessary formalities completed for the goods on board.
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they were therefore be turned back by the french border authorities, clogging the dover to calais crossing. in that scenario, those across the critical short state crossings could be reduced by up to 60% to 80% compared to the normal rate and in such circumstances, that could lead to queues of up to 7,000 hgvs in kent. these queues and the associated disruption and delay would of course subside as unready businesses who had their goods turned back at the french border would not want to repeat the experience. it is clearly far better that everyone is aware now of what is needed to prepare now rather than face additional disruption next year. responding for labour — rachel reeves criticised a letterfrom michael gove to the haulage industry. the government says that businesses should get ready. but what, madam deputy speaker, about the government? there is a long list of promises for the future in the letter. the uk government will be contacting haulage companies. they will be running targeted advertising.
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they will be publishing an updated haulier handbook and they will launch advice stands at uk service stations. madam deputy speaker, why aren't these essential prerequisites for a smooth transition not already here? it is all well and good to tell businesses to act now, but without the systems in place, frankly, it is like telling me to bake a cake but forgetting to turn a oven on. sectors from farming to haulage to car manufacturing are crying out for the government to get this right. these sectors are the backbone of british industry and they are vital to our everyday economy. if we don't listen to these experts, we will lose exports. in the last hour the uk's daily figures have been released and they show another rise in the number of new coronavirus cases. there were 6,178 new infections recorded — that's up from 4,926 yesterday.
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the number of cases has risen sharply to levels last seen in early may. a further 37 people have died within 28 days of testing positive with the virus. that takes the total number of deaths across the uk to 41,862. let's get more now on the latest restrictions aimed at averting under new restrictions weddings and england will be cut to a maximum of 15 people. weddings are banned on the 23rd of march with over 23,001 insta nce the 23rd of march with over 23,001 instance of civil partnership ceremonies affected. celebrations can only take place at cobit secure venues can only take place at cobit secure venues and are can only take place at cobit secure venues and are an can only take place at cobit secure venues and are an exception to rules banning troops of more than six. laura gill from cornwall has a wedding venue business and she and her partner have also have to cancel their own wedding this year and she joins me now. good afternoon to you. i don't know where to start with your own personal case for your
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business, let us talk about your business, let us talk about your business first. you will have heard the news yesterday that weddings will have to be cut from 30 to 15, what does that do cheer business? it's devastating to be honest. we have been closed for six months and we we re have been closed for six months and we were only really allowed to start doing sermon is from 4th ofjuly then sections from the 15th of august but how many people really wa nt to august but how many people really want to go ahead with a 30 people and now it has been cut the 15. it isa and now it has been cut the 15. it is a choice of picking which brother or sister is going to be at your wedding. no one can really accept that. we will be closed basically for our whole year and we have a whole years worth of income com pletely whole years worth of income completely ta ken away whole years worth of income completely taken away from us. and now we have a lot of tooth 21 couples that are very, very worried. and if all this 2021 couples cancel, then we really are in a lot of
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trouble then we will have lost two full yea rs of trouble then we will have lost two full years of income with no financial support whatsoever. how is the government expecting us to survive this when we have received nothing from them? no clarity, no help, no support, nothing. we are com pletely help, no support, nothing. we are completely on our own and it's horrible, it is hard to get up in the morning, i will tell you that. you have had financial support from the government up until now? we haven't really. we had the hospitality grant we received back in april when it was announced which bars and in april when it was announced which bars a nd restau ra nts in april when it was announced which bars and restaurants and everyone else got. we received 20 20,000 after you take the tax off that they ta ke after you take the tax off that they take back. that will help us rearrange to weddings. we have rearranged 26 weddings this year. that's a huge loss and we also lost any bar sales that we would've made on our profit, we make no profit on the revenue part, we make reference
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—— profit on bar sales and we have watched future incomes that we have given wade dates next year to rearrange weddings. the help hasn't really been there. we have not had any more help than bars or restau ra nts. any more help than bars or restaurants. but they are open and able to trade and welcome people in. we can't viably open with 15 people. we can't viably open with 15 people. we can't viably open with 15 people. we can seat 200 people in our bar so how do they expect us to viably open with 15 people? your own wedding is now on hold. it is, it was supposed to go ahead injune this year and i made the call back in april to cancel it because a lot of our couples are very worried and didn't really know what to do. i cancelled mind just to focus and help them. now i have moved intojune and next year but i still don't know what is going to happen. i have determined that whatever happens, i am going to get married next year. i have my close family aroma, whatever happens, the wedding is such an important part of people's wives, we
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rearranged, we have had couples rearranged, we have had couples rearrange ibf, rearranging whose fathers are terminally ill and need to get married and want their family there. this is notjust about party, this is about a significant part of people's lives. very good luck to you, lara. thank you so much. lara gill there. let's take a look at the weather now here is that not sunnier skies gill there. let's take a look at the weather now here is that not sunnier skies across prince of wales after that what hello there. sunnier skies for this afternoon across parts of wales and western england after that wet start. sunshine still there across, scotland and northern ireland. only one or two isolated downpours. we will see some heavier bursts of rain continue to work across the eastern half of england through this afternoon — sitting along eastern coasts right the way through the first part of the night. but, not a bad day really for most of scotland, other than a few showers, not particularly warm, but nice enough in the sunshine and lighter winds. a greater chance ofjust1—2 showers across northern ireland. a few showers towards the west of england and wales, but overall, an improvement on this morning. temperatures at the highest,
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still through eastern england, 18—19 degrees for 1—2. we will see some brighter moments but rain will linger for a time across other parts of eastern england. we could see gale force winds along the coast of yorkshire, the northeast of england for a time. that eases away later, skies clear, cold, frosty night for some in scotland. chillier elsewhere, but more showers push in and some strong winds towards the southwest later. in fact, frequent showers across the country away from northern scotland tomorrow, but much brighter prospects by the time we get to the weekend. hello this is bbc news. the headlines. there are warnings of tighter coronavirus measures to come if people don't stick to the rules — as the prime minister defends the test and trace system from criticism we are not only at a record high today, testing more people than any other european country, but to get to the point that he raised, mr speaker, we are going up to 500,000 tests by the end of october.
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the labour leader sir keir starmer says now is not the time for another referendum on scottish independence — and says the focus needs to be on dealing with the economy. we will be going into that election in may, making it very clear that another divisive referendum on independence in scotland, it is not what's needed. what's needed is in intense focus on rebuilding economy and making sure public services are rebuilt as well and dealing with the pandemic. the damaging effect on pubs and restaurants — forced to change the way they serve — and closing at 10pm from tomorrow. plans to bring back spectators at live sporting events next month are also on hold. the us pays tribute to justice ruth bader ginsburg, she will lie in repose on the front steps of the supreme court where she served for 27 years. queues of 7,000 lorries in kent — and two—day waits — the government warning to hauliers if they don't get ready for brexit. a desperate race against time to save a group of pilot whales stranded off the coast of tasmania — nearly 400 have already died.
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sport and for a full round up, from the bbc sport centre, here's sarah. thank you very much. good evening. the english football league chairman rick parry says the league is deeply frustrated after plans to allow some fans to return to matches were put on hold. crowds had been due to return to sport events in limited numbers next month, but prime minister borisjohnson said on tuesday that it won't go ahead, a decision which may leave many clubs in financial trouble. we had been saying all along that the maximum financial hold for us is 250 million. that was on the assumption that we don't have any fa ns assumption that we don't have any fans this season. so, what's happened with yesterday's announcements, it's pushed us more towards the boundary of that. it hasn't created an additional whole, so it's not a case of panic, it's a
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case of trying to stay measured. but absolutely puts are really clear focus on needing that financial rescue package very very quickly. the situation in rugby union is also perilous. exeter chiefs chairman tony rowe says they're losing about a million pounds a month — and they're the premiership leaders. he's well aware that clubs in lower leagues will really struggle without income from paying fans. the premiership, the championship, it must be completely gutting for them, because a lot of them realise completely on their attendances and money from the season—ticket supporters. people have a bit of a misconception that similarly funded to permission football, we are not. ourclub to permission football, we are not. our club has got one of the higher turnovers. we turn over about £22 million a year. it's no sort of secret that the majority of premiership clubs struggled to
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actually make a profit each year. some transfer news for you, and wolves have signed the portugal defender nelson semedo from barcelona, in a deal that could make him their record signing. they're paying an initial 28—million pounds, which would rise to 37—million with add—ons — and that's more than they paid for fabio silva earlier this month. semedo has signed a three—year deal, with an option to extend for another two. mancester city's kevin de bruyne has been nominated for the uefa british number one dan evans was comprehensively beaten by second seed stefanos tsitsipas in the first round of the hamburg european open. evans lost 6—3 6—1 as world number six tsitsipas showed his quality in a 59—minute win. evans will now head to paris for the french open which starts on sunday. liam broady could join him in the main draw, but must win his match later on wednesday. dereck chisora will face unbeaten ukrainian oleksandr usyk on the 31st of october in their rescheduled heavyweight fight, which had been due to take place in may. the venue of the fight is yet to be confirmed and there will be no fans
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because of new restrictions. chisora has not fought since a fourth—round stoppage victory over compatriot david price in october last year. and usyk is a former undisputed cruiserweight champion who stepped up to heavyweight last year. we'll have more for you in sportsday at half past six. see you then. thanks so much, sarah. let's get more now on the latest restrictions aimed at averting a second wave of coronavirus infections in the uk and their impact. drjoel dunning is a consultant cardiothoracic surgeon working at south tees hospitals nhs foundation trust. he spent two months working as an icu nurse to help during lockdown. hejoins me now. good afternoon to you doctorjoel. that was quite the job change for you. how did you find it? well, it was an inspirational time. the nhs did in incrediblejob of making the huge efforts which
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meant that when we had our first wave, we managed to get through it and we got through it really well, and we got through it really well, and we got through it really well, and we did a greatjob of looking after our patients. we had a total of 165 patients at the peak, and 27 ventilated. and a lot of us came to do differentjobs to help out. ventilated. and a lot of us came to do different jobs to help out. and he volunteered for that, did you? because your day job is he volunteered for that, did you? because your dayjob is as a heart surgeon. yes, well, i do lung cancer surgery, and i think it's really important for people to realise that in that first peek, i did know lung cancer surgery for two months, so many doctors and surgeons did none of their standard work for two months, which is why it's absolutely vital that we don't get to do that again. it was great, we did manage, but we really don't want to get near there again. so you have seen this situation and saw situations in the spring personally and up close, if you like, what do you think about
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the new restrictions that have been introduced yesterday by the government? well, we were given some very stark warnings by the chief medical officer and i think the government's actually been extremely measured. to me, the key points were that 92% of our population can still get the virus that the virus is exactly the same virus as it was in march, but the numbers are going up and we are seeing that in our hospital. so, the most important m essa g es hospital. so, the most important messages that you just can't take your own view on risk. you can say, well, i'll be all right so let's get out there and break the rules because he will give it to 70, they will give it to three people, than nine than 27 and then someone is going to end up in hospital ventilated and may not survive. so i think they have been very measured andi think they have been very measured and i think the government's you just can't take your own view on risk. you can say, well, i'll be all right so let's get out there and break the rules because he will give it to 70, they will give it to three people, than nine than 27 and then someone is going to end up in hospital ventilated and may not survive. so i think they have been very measured and i think the
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government's actually really that the virus is exactly the same virus as it was in march, but the numbers are going up and we are seeing that in our hospital. so, the most important messages that you just can't take your own view on risk. you can say, well, i'll be all right so let's get out there and break the rules because he will give it to 70, they will give it to three people, than nine than 27 and then someone is going to end up in hospital ventilated and may not survive. so i think they have been very measured andi think they have been very measured and i think the government's actually really trusting the british people to that you just can't take your own view on risk. you can say, well, i'll be all right so let's get out there and break the rules because he will give it to 70, they will give it to three people, then nine than 27 and then someone is going to end up in hospital ventilated and may not survive. so i think they have been very measured andi think they have been very measured and i think the government's actually really trusting the british people to follow the rules, so from us in hospital, we really do urge people, just follow the rules, follow the rule of six, let's get through this, and it will be six months, but science will come to our rescue hopefully and the vaccine will release us from all of this. and are you seeing numbers going up in your hospital? absolutely. at the trough when we were all getting back to doing our cancer operations, we are getting screening programming is going back, doing the heart operations we had maybe two or three patients in the hospital, we have now got 15 and it's rising. we've
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got two in the itu, we changed it back to a covid itu, just in case we need to have more patience. but the more we change our hospital back, the less standard care we do. it's really important that we stop the whole nhs —— we stopped it com pletely whole nhs —— we stopped it completely and merge, and we don't wa nt to completely and merge, and we don't want to do that again. we don't want to get close to the figures we got back then. so, please come our plea really is to follow the rules and let's get this back under control. 0k, let's get this back under control. ok, very good to talk to. thank you so much, doctorjoel dunning from south tees hospital. thank you. almost 500 people have tested positive for coronavirus in scotland since yesterday — the highest daily figure recorded there so far. the news comes as people across scotland are banned from visiting other households indoors. we can speak now to professorjason leitch who is scotland's national clinical director. it's interesting, isn't it, because scotla nd it's interesting, isn't it, because scotland has introduced tougher measures than in england, but there are some people who say that even scotland's measures aren't going far enough. well, let's go back to what it is we are trying to do. all countries, including the four uk ones, we are trying to reduce the risk of spreading and the principal places this virus spreads are household to household, either in domestic circumstances in your home or in hospitality or other places. so, each country makes choices about their demographics and their position in the pandemic, you can
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see the northern irish and the scots making a very clear decision about household transmission domestically, so we have to say that to move what we already had in seven of our cancel areas to the whole country, not something we did lately. it's a horrible restriction, absolutely horrible, but we decided to do it because we need these numbers to come down. the first minister suggested that she should have liked to have gone further on the restrictions on hospitality but couldn't because of the financial implications, being able to help people who might not be in work because of the restrictions. would you have liked to have seen more restrictions on the hospitality sector? the exam question the first minister asks is more complex than perhaps people think. if she just asked me and the chief medical officer and the chief nurse how do i get rid of coronavirus? would go back to the 20th of march. we got to single figures within a few weeks,
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but we closed everything, everything. we closed schools for the first time in history for five months. so you can't keep doing that. so the exam question is more difficult. the exam question is, "how cani difficult. the exam question is, "how can i suppress the virus while still getting the benefits of some opening of economy where protect in ca re opening of economy where protect in care homes, we're in protecting the nhs, and keeping schools and universities open? " so the advice has to be more nuanced, both for me, the chief economist, the other cabinet secretaries, so the decision about what actually happens is not for me, nobody elected me, i give the best advice i can in the context i'm given around the virus, around the economics, with my colleagues and that is the position we find ourselves in with the first minister making those choices. which she seeks from the uk government is a matter for seeks from the uk government is a matterfor her, seeks from the uk government is a matter for her, not for me. indeed. i wouldn't be asking you that. my question was more, would you have liked to of seen more restrictions on hospitality sector?|j liked to of seen more restrictions on hospitality sector? i would like to see loss of transmission inside hospitality. so, that means i agree
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with the curfew. i would like to see them step up as they've done in many, them step up as they've done in any them step up as they've done in many, many places and bats to really mitigate against it. the one i am worried about is mixing households without distancing. that's the one i'm most worried about. i have been there twice in six months if i'm honest and it's partly to do with thejob, partly to honest and it's partly to do with the job, partly to do with the virus. and the one thing i'm worried about on both of those vocations, and other pals have told me, that distancing between households is a little weak. that's how the virus works. it takes no time at all for that virus just to jump and you end up that virus just to jump and you end up with transmission from a surface toa cough, up with transmission from a surface to a cough, you are in trouble. you are at 14 cases, 100 cases before you know what you're doing. how it worried are you about the university sector, because the increase in the number of cases has included a significant outbreak at glasgow university. they have. a number of outbreaks in our around the country, kind of predictably, if you remember
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when the schools opened on the 11th of august, we said what would would happen and we were right. this is the same. we unfortunately are seeing particularly in the halls of residence, the important inference here is we are not seen transmission on campus and teaching facilities and libraries, or even impractical classes where there is some mitigation in place. unfortunately, andi mitigation in place. unfortunately, and i did this at the press briefing today with the first minister, u nfortu nately, today with the first minister, unfortunately, the fundamental truth is it's in halls of residence, psych i ca lly is it's in halls of residence, psychically from saying this to 18 and 19—year—olds, and it's the only time they will ever have this week, but i'm telling them not to have a party. not just for but i'm telling them not to have a party. notjust for their but i'm telling them not to have a party. not just for their safety, but the for their family and their loved one safety. so maybe they can come back to freshers next year and they can get another go at it, but this year, freshers week doesn't look like how it should look. this year, freshers week doesn't look like how it should lookm this year, freshers week doesn't look like how it should look. if we do think that younger people are much less likely to be badly affected by this disease, if those
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groups of young people where to stick to themselves and not to be going home, would that still make it permissible? i'm afraid not. the danger is if you took 500 of them, so if you presented me with 500 of them just now, 1—2 of them will have serious illness. i can't tell which one, and we don't live in segmented age groups. if we did, you could maybe take that argument and just think, well, a few of them are going to get very sick, but we will isolate them out. the reality is we do not live in segments, we live interconnected in shops, in transport, in families, interconnected in shops, in transport, infamilies, in interconnected in shops, in transport, in families, in care homes with our grannie, with our pals. so you just simply can't do it. and, of course, some young people have died of this disease. let's not beat around the bush era. this is not just let's not beat around the bush era. this is notjust a disease of the elderly. the elderly are much more at risk, but some teenagers get this disease really, really badly. i've got a 41—year—old pal, sick for three and half months. he's now
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recovered, back at his job, three and half months. he's now recovered, back at hisjob, but properly sick, fits, no underlying conditions and unlucky. so a very unpredictable illness. ok, very good to talk to them as it always is. thank you so much. buckingham palace has described comments made by the duke of sussex three days of tributes have begun in the united states for supreme courtjustice ruth bader ginsburg. among those paying their respects, secretary hillary clinton. at the beacon, secretary clinton said this isa beacon, secretary clinton said this is a devastating personal loss for so many, but more than that, it's a devastating loss for our country. i think quite simply, she was a sort of rock star of the legal profession. particularly in her later years, she became widely known — there was a film, wasn't there? she became as the notorious rbg. she touched generations much, much younger than hers,
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and particularly, ithink, in her sort of campaigning work and her legal work for the rights of women, she was an exemplar of having broken through the glass ceiling, having showed what was possible after having faced enormous discrimination in her early life. she came first in the columbia law school in year she was in, but couldn't get a job. i mean, that's how bad it was. and i think that sort of charisma, her championing of certain groups — notjust women but minority groups — other people who face discrimination, that gave her a very wide audience. i think that's why you are seeing this outpouring of sorrow and of condolences for her. she was quite simply the best known judge in this country. i think that's pretty clear. so there are three days of mourning for her. members of the public can now come and pay their respects. will they do that? and will they do that in numbers?
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yeah, i think they will. that's what's being expected here. they've opened up this front of the court for the next two days until ten o'clock in the evening each day, in orderfor that to happen, the public will be allowed in, we will see how many show up, but i think they feel two days is the right amount of time to allow the numbers they are expecting. we will see what happens. of course, her death is of great sorrow to a lot of people, but it's a hugely significant political moments as well because of the election coming up and because of the president's wish to replace her on the court with a justice, another justice before november the 3rd election day. of course, the president will put a conservative on the court with the help of the republican senate. and you will see one of the great liberaljustices of our time likely replaced by a conservative, probably a highly conservative member of the court.
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that will signify a significant turn to the right in the courts. 6—3 for conservatives and liberals, and it's really difficult in britain to understand this idea of you know, conservatives and liberals when we are talking aboutjudges. these are political appointments and they are very political, these appointments. and a controversial, highly controversial move and by the president who wants to replace her in this time. yeah, i mean, his opponents have cried foul and cried hypocrisy, of course, because the republican senate back in 2016, when there was a vacant seat after the death of antonin scalia in february of that year. they refused to take president obama's nominee because they said it was an election year. well here we are, in an election year, and the republican senate is saying they are going full steam ahead with a nomination and a confirmation. so hugely controversial. but in some ways, this is what the democrats, they are reaping what they have
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sown, because back in 2013, it was the democrats who changed the rules on this, so that you no longer needed 60 votes in the us senate to get a confirmation done. now it's a simple majority, the republicans have that simple majority. gary o'donoghue their reporting from washington. it's exactly six months today since the uk went into lockdown and in the last 24 hours people have been told they're facing another six months of restrictions. the stringent rules imposed on us, have impacted each of us very differently. graham satchell has been to meet people whose lives have been transformed in lockdown. six months since the start of lockdown and six lives changed forever. it takes a cool head to control a plane in conditions like this.
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it's not what we were expecting but it was a safe outcome and in the end we were very happy. i said to the co—pilot, "look at my left leg", literally my left leg was shaking but i think that was adrenaline. william barron was a pilot for 14 years. when lockdown came, he was furloughed and then made redundant. the first emotion is that of fear. i have no other streams of income, i didn't have a second job but of course, the mortgage, the bills and everything else continues on. this pandemic has completely changed people's lives. william has swapped his pilot uniform for a job which transports people to their final destination. being a commercial pilot, especially in the role of captain, it is a huge responsibility and a huge honour. the families trust us to take them on their holidays and on flights but being a funeral director is also a position of great trust.
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you have one afternoon, one morning, where you have the funeral service and this is someone's life's obituary and you've got one chance to make it as the person requested. it's been a challenge. it can be frightening at times but ijust believe with an honest product and a good relationship with families, the business will be a success. i never really understood who i was. of course, when you drink alcohol, it gives you that confidence. and then it becomes an addiction. charlotte's been an alcoholic for 30 years. at the beginning of lockdown, she was furloughed and stuck at home. it was as if i had reached, i don't think rock bottom is the right word, i was way beyond that. and i realised at that point that if i didn't stop, i could see where this was going.
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studies in the last week show the number of people drinking at high risk levels has doubled since february. charlotte took her last drink in june. i couldn't stop crying for days. and that was quite scary because normally i would have a drink to blot out, you know, past trauma, present, a bad day at work, have a drink, make you feel better. and i couldn't do that any more. so i had to be...it was like being raw, that's the only way i can describe it. every day is a struggle, a fight, but charlotte says she's now discovered who she really is. actually, the person i am is, you know, she's great. she's much more fun. and she doesn't have a hangover the next day! she's brilliant. i was terrified of catching covid, i was terrified i wouldn't
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see my children grow up. it felt like the end of the world. and genuinely did feel like i didn't know any way out of it at that point. back in march, gavin weighed almost 21 stone, he was diagnosed with hypertension and told he was a serious covid risk. his wife claire was heavily pregnant. i was advised at that point that the weight that i was, i wouldn't be able to attend my daughter's birth so i realised something had to change dramatically quickly. gavin decided to change his whole way of life. i enjoyed eating fine food and junk food, i enjoyed drinking beer and meeting my friends. i can honestly say i've never run in my life. gavin started walking then jogging then running. it was a race against time. could he lose enough weight to be there for the birth of his daughter?
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it was my choice to put the weight on and be the size that i was so it was up to me and nobody else to make that change. i can't put into words what it meant to actually be there and support claire. i could get emotional now, to be honest, and i'm not an emotional guy, it really make the world. ava will always have a special place in my heart because of the circumstances surrounding her birth and also what it took to achieve to be able to get to her birth. it was amazing. she was really quick so from start to finish i was only in labourforan hour. but it wasjust nice to have the moral support and someone there. the midwife was amazing as well, she was really good, ijust don't think i could have done it without him there. he got nipped quite a bit. nipped? yeah. laughs. gavin is a third the man he was. he's lost almost seven stone in 16 weeks.
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the world is now a changed place and it makes me so sad to think of the amount of people that have died, both in our country and around the globe. but for me personally, it's given me the impetus and the passion to make a step change and i have to say, i'm looking forward to the next chapter in my life. on tomorrow's programme. lockdown and the first day at school, remembering a beloved father and we meet ola who spent six weeks on a ventilator and survived covid—19. those stories brought to by graham satchell. now it's time for a look at the weather with chris fawkes. hello there. we have seen much cooler air push across the uk during the day today but a real contrast in weather fortunes. for england and wales, it's been cloudy with some fairly heavy outbreaks of rain around — that was the scene in wrexham earlier on. and you can see as the rain has been
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pushing its way eastwards, it's been turning heavier. notice the darker blues here in our rain band. further north in scotland though, the cooler air has been accompanied by sunny skies and still conditions. what a beautiful picture this is from fort augustus in the highlands. now, as we head towards midnight tonight, you'll notice the rain still hasn't cleared away from eastern england though probably another area of rain affecting parts of the midlands and east anglia, too. all the while as this huck of rain develops, there's an area of low pressure that's forming and so it gets quite windy around some of our north sea coasts, not english channel coasts. it becomes drier for a time but then the next batch of wet and windy weather will be extending into wales and south—west england and later in the night. so, for england and wales, rain at times. quite a bit of dry weather for northern ireland, and staying dry in scotland with clear skies. here in the countryside, it'll be cold enough for a few areas of frost to develop. thursday's weather picture dominated by low pressure. the first one moving away from the east coast. the next one rattling in to the south west very quickly, and this one will be bringing heavy outbreaks of rain particularly
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across wales and western areas of england and the winds will be strengthening through the day as well, reaching gale force — we're expecting gusts probably in excess of 50 mph across parts of south—west england and maybe pembrokeshire as well. so, it will be a very blowy kind of day — and those kind of winds strong enough to bring down some tree branches. for northern ireland, rain not far away. scotland largely dry and sunny after that locally frosty start but still cold, 11 or 12 degrees the high here. through friday as that area of low pressure moves away to the continent, we start to draw down these northerly winds. so, it is going to feel quite chilly on friday. there will be showers coming down through the irish sea coast. and showers or longer ourbreaks of rain affecting eastern areas of england — all the while gusty northerly winds. now, inland, there will be some areas that stay dry, sunny with sparkling visibility, but it will feel chilly, 11—14 degrees. factor in those northerly winds, feeling a bit colder than that. and those brisk winds still with us to the first half of the weekend. perhaps still with some rain around across eastern england. some bright weather for sunday.
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pressure on the government to step up economic support for businesses and workers, amid fears of a tsunami of job losses. as the new coronavirus restrictions come into force — and millions are told to work from home again — businesses brace themselves for the impact. he's phasing in health measures, restrictions that we do support, but, at the same time, he's phasing out economic support. health measures and economic measures are now dangerously out of synch. we will go forward with further creative and imaginative schemes to keep our economy moving. the chancellor says he will outline his latest plans to protectjobs tomorrow, but there'll be no autumn budget because of the uncertainty caused by the pandemic. another big rise in uk coronavirus cases —
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