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this is bbc news. tension in kentucky after a ruling in the killing of breonna taylor. no police officers have been directly charged with her death. civil rights leaders are not satisfied. the case puts the focus back on police brutality, but the state's attorney general insists justice has been followed. the doctor in on the hill. anthony fauci pours cold water on the idea of a covid vaccine before the election. also in the programme... what to do with the tens of thousands of migrants who land on europe's shores. the european commission has put forward its latest solution, but will it work? and the mourners gather to say goodbye to the notorious rbg, who had wanted to be an opera star but became, said the chiefjustice, a rock star of the court.
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another american city, another fight for racial justice, another unhappy group of protestors. the focus today is louisville, kentucky which is bracing for unrest after no officers were charged directly in the killing of breonna taylor. one former police officer has been charged — over shooting into neighbouring apartments. leaders of the black lives matter movement say that's not enough. anticipating a night of unrest after the verdict, the national guard was called into the town. anger over the killing of ms taylor in march has fuelled more than 100 days of demonstrations.
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this is the scene right now in louisville — police officers had placed barricades around downtown this week to reduce access — and a 9 o'clock curfew has been imposed for this evening. we have just been watching people who have been peacefully arrested, but protesters face—to—face with officers. kentucky's attorney general led the investigation — he explained why two other other officers who fired shots were not charged at all. detective cosg rove and sergeant mattingly werejustified in returning fire, because they were fired upon. i'll leave it to others to make determinations. we have vigorous self—defence laws in this state, and that is something that existed prior to this case. i'll let others make judgments about that. attorney ben crump represents breonna taylor's family. he condemned the decision to indict only one officer, and the charge. "if brett hankison‘s behaviour was wanton endangerment to people "in neighbouring apartments, then it should have been "wa nton endangerment in breonna taylor's apartment too. "in fact, it should have been
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ruled wanton murder!" lets go back to those live pictures from louisville, because we have seen protesters walking through the town and coming up against lines of police. we know from previous incidents, whether it was in kenosha, wisconsin, or minneapolis, that these situations can quickly become tense and potentially violent. there were also pictures of white people, militia type people carrying weapons, kentucky is a right to carry state, so the chances for confrontation are high. we're joined now by our correspondent, larry madowo. larry, as we watch these live pictures from kentucky, you have been to louisville. describe a little bit the reaction from people to this ruling. people are angry about this decision, and is echoed in that
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statement from the attorneys representing breonna taylor's family, and it picks up on something that the family... bianca austin, breonna taylor's aunt, told us they would be a cover—up. that was two weeks ago for top today, the same word shows up with ben crump, the attorney. they say this is a cover—up and they think breonna taylor has not gotjustice, and people expected there would be a minor charge of some kind, even second degree murder or manslaughter. that didn't happen in this case. in fact, this wanton endangerment charge that detective brett hankison will face has a maximum penalty of five years in prison, or $10,000, and they see this as protecting more the building of the neighbours than breonna taylor, who was killed in this incident. i was listening to some of the sta lwa rts i was listening to some of the stalwarts of the black lives matter movement, people like reverend al
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sharpton, early on television, and some of them seemed to suggest the way the attorney general of kentucky was speaking, it sounded like he was taking the police‘s side over the side of breonna taylor, an unarmed black woman who was in that department, and they didn't feel it was possible in that system to get justice. that is precisely what al sharpton told me three weeks ago, he told me the system is not set up to hold police accountable, and this is also what people in louisville have said, they have not seen any instance of accountability for the police, and thatis accountability for the police, and that is what people feel, based on what the kentucky attorney general, his statement essentially showed that the police seem to be protected in this case, and that is why you are seeing all this activity on the streets of louisville, because they feared this, that is why they are out of the street every day and night, trying to make sure there is a tension and pressure on the mayor, the police department and also the attorney general, and a lot of
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people who have spoken to me say they didn't feel they get any of what they hoped for and, in any case, there has been adjusted for taylor's death. looking at some of the detail the attorney general gave today, this was a no knock warrant, but he said it wasn't exercised as a no knock warrant, there was a witness that came forward that set the police officers did announce who they were, but it seems to be there are still questions around this, as to the police who went into identifying that apartment and the intelligence as to who was in it. that is part of the problem, because both in the investigation by the police but also media interviews from different outlets only one neighbour says they heard police announce themselves, all the others say they did not, and the attorneys say they did not, and the attorneys say this should be ruled murder. they say they fired shots into the apartment, they essentially fired without regard for human life, the grandjury said,
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without regard for human life, the grand jury said, showing great indifference for human life. however, they don't feel that has been reflected in the way these charges have been prepared. there is no direct charge for the killing of breonna taylor, it's more about the shooting into this tender area where the opponent is located, and that is pa rt the opponent is located, and that is part of the reason there is so much and on the street, because people who are speaking to and reacting to it feel it is more about the protection of the neighbours than the killing of breonna taylor. thank you, larry. breonna taylor's family received a landmark $12 million settlement from the city of louisville but they don't feel they have got justice louisville but they don't feel they have gotjustice today, and i'm looking at the pictures, and we don't want to pre—empt violence, but it does look particularly tense. we are seeing people who have been arrested. it strikes me, when you talk about the election, barely a0 days away, and what might influence the vote, it was supreme court yesterday, it was the economy, and
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now we seem to be going back, we could be going back to black lives matter and the protests we have seen in recent weeks and months. yes, we were talking about this earlier today, christian, and i ran through the list with you of all the things which have been the centre of intense focus, one after another, for a relatively short period of time, and obviously there is covid all the time, then there was the black lives matter around the killing of george floyd, then the issue of law and order, and then there were the fires, we were speaking about them, in california, and climate change and the hurricane. then there was the supreme court and the death of ruth bader ginsburg, and now does it swing back again and this is the black lives matter movement which becomes the centre of attention and, if so, for how long? do we then swing back again to something else? such a kinetic phase of the news cycle. president trump says the united states is "turning a corner" on coronavirus. there is no evidence of that.
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the country has just passed 200,000 deaths, and the rolling seven—day average is heading in the wrong direction, with over a0,000 new cases every day. dr anthony fauci says the united states has "squandered" a summer opportunity to get that average below 10,000. today, dr fauci, dr stephen hahn, commissioner of the fda, and dr robert redfield, the director of the cdc were all on capitol hill, to answer questions from senators under oath. each of them head agencies that were highly regarded for their scientific rigour. but, of late, they have come under significant political pressure from the white house. the theme of the day then was "trust" — can americans still put their faith in what these top health officials are telling them? fta will not authorise or approve any covid—19 vaccine before it has met the agency's reduce expectations for safety a nd met the agency's reduce expectations for safety and effectiveness.
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decisions to authorise or approve any such vaccine, if therapeutic, would be made by the dedicated career staff at fda, who have thorough review processes in science to guide our decisions. the fda will not permit any pressure from anyone to change that. i will fight for science, i will fight for the integrity of the agency, and i will put the interests of the american people before anything else. dr megan ranney is an emergency physician and researcher at brown university. she's also the co—founder of get-us-ppe. thank you forjoining us. we heard there that this is not going to be a political process, that you can believe this vaccine, but all the indications are that american trust in the vaccine process is declining. how damaging is that? that is absolutely right. a recent survey out yesterday suggests that fewer than 20% of americans currently trust the process for releasing a
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covid—19 vaccine. they don't trust it is going to be safe or that it's going to be effective and, let me be clear, that is a direct result of the politicians getting involved in the politicians getting involved in the science of covid—19 prevention over the last six months. we have seen over the last six months. we have seen debates about hydroxychloroquine, debates about convalescent plasma, about masks, the science on all of this is clear, and when politics gets in the way it confuses people. we have a long way to go in getting the trust of the americans back, which isjust an absolute crying shame, because it doesn't have to be this way. everybody is focused on a vaccine, andi everybody is focused on a vaccine, and i suppose we all want a silver bullet to get us out of this situation, and there is a new study out around red—cell distribution, which could predict who is going to suffer particularly badly from covid—19 and who isn't. is that
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something could be hopefulfor us, we try and figure out a way to handle, live with, manage this pandemic? that study about the distribution of red cell with is an interesting scientific study but it's not going to change what i do day—to—day tomorrow in the emergency department. it showed that this one blood test predicts someone's likelihood of dying from covid—19, which is certainly important, because it helps us as doctors be able to predict how sick someone is likely to get, but we still don't have great treatment. even if i know you are likely to get sick, and as a reminder, we already know that people who are old or who have multiple chronic conditions are more likely to get sick and die, even if i already know that about you, i basically have two treatments, remdesivir and dexamethasone, and neither one of them is a silver bullet. neither one of them will save 100% of people. this study, although interesting, is not going to bea although interesting, is not going to be a game changer. i also want to
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put at about vaccines that there is a worry that we have. there is no guarantee that any vaccine we get will be 100% effective so, even when we have a vaccine, even once there is one that theoretically is safe and mostly effective, chances are it's not going to protect 100% of us. it's not going to protect 100% of us. 0k, thank you forjoining us. your picture was frozen but we heard your voice perfectly. cassie smedile is the deputy communications director for the republican party. it's good to have you with us. there was some reporting today, when it comes to issues of trust, that the fda is going to ensure that there are stricter guidelines around vaccines, so they are going to wait two months until those who have had the faxing, two months after their last injection, to see if there are any side effects. if you do the maths on that, that pushes the a cce pta nce maths on that, that pushes the acceptance of a vaccine well beyond
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the election. that will be a huge disappointment to president trump, who said it would come before. well, i think you have to define as relative when you have a vaccine ready, when it is ready on shelves 01’ ready, when it is ready on shelves orfor mass ready, when it is ready on shelves or for mass consumption, when are we ata or for mass consumption, when are we at a point with phase three trials, where we are now having people starting to see the effects of it? the point is, through operation warp speed and what we heard into day's hearing, things are not only progressing at a good clip but without compromising the efficacy of the vaccine, but that all of the experts that we are all told over and over to listen to believe this is happening in a way in which people can feel confident in the safety a nd people can feel confident in the safety and efficacy of the vaccine, and it's not compromised in any way by the politics of the day. the problem is that it has been compromised, because the cdc, for example, has been under political pressure from the administration.
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first of all, it had that it was airborne, then it took off that information, then it put it back on, and then it took it off. the more there is of that kind of confusion, which seems to come from a political motive, the more people are not going to trust the vaccine, so it sort of self—defeating, isn't it? even drfound sort of self—defeating, isn't it? even dr found she said sort of self—defeating, isn't it? even drfound she said over and over, we present information as we believed it to be, the best information at the time. we are dealing with a virus which the world did not know much about, and is still learning about. they presented their recommendations, the white house task force, which is led by this industry and science leaders, what were the best recommendations to the american public, and then they have evolved and changed as we have learnt more about the virus. any effort to politicise them is just that, it's not something being done experts or the white house but rather by those out on a political stop trying to get into the white house. we heard today from dr
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deborah birks, one of the most senior advisers to the task force, that she doesn't think she can stick it on the task force because she has been frozen out, and that the person really leading that task force is the sort of person that donald trump once there, because he agrees with his direction on coronavirus. believe that is a report with an unnamed source, and there has been no direct statement from dr birks on that. thank you very much indeed. for those watching on bbc world news, we'll be right back. you do uk chancellor has decided to scrap the autumn budget. 0ur economics says it is significant. the big picture here is squaring that circle, of having to support the economy and jobs more — because of the extra restrictions of coronavirus announced in the past week,
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but also just generally because of the economy. at the same time, a budget would have been a place where you start to explain how taxes might have risen to begin to pay some down payment on repaying that, so the budget being cancelled means that, tomorrow, we will get, i think, more spending on supporting jobs but that question about, you know, where is the payback on this, that can be delayed. the chancellor is due in the commons to deliver his ministerial statement on plans to protectjobs through the winter at about 11:a5am tomorrow. options are said to include wage subsidies for industries under pressure. if there is one issue which the eu has tried and consistently failed to find an answer to, it is migration. the crisis in 2015 changed the social and political fabric of the continent. today, the european commission proposed a new system. in short, member states will either
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agree to take in asylum seekers or they will take charge of sending back those who have had asylum claims refused. it is greece and italy that share the biggest burden, though even at the northernmost frontier there are problems. since january 2019, more than 7,a00 migrants have crossed the english channel in small boats. but in fact the problem for europe is nowhere near where it was in 2015 — that year, there were 1.8 million arrivals. this year, it's 55,000. but there are tens of thousands of others who are living without shelter and in limbo. let's speak to david herszenhorn, chief brussels correspondent for politico. it's good to have you with us. they have tried all sorts, they have tried quotas, setting up centres in different countries, jumping off points in libya. do you look at the plan they have put out today and think, yeah, this is something that could work? it's definitely a nice
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try. they need a fresh start, and this is what the european commission said it was aiming for today. they know the existing system doesn't work or, as the commissioner, the vice president who has been overseeing this said, it's a non—system. so they have to do something. the problem is migration is virtually a no—win issue. on these asylum policies, you have people who are literally desperate, some of them genuinely coming from war—torn countries, disaster situations, others simply seeking a better life, and at times the laws, the rules are just against them. then you add in the different interests of the eu countries, those on the front lines along the coast, italy, greece, against those in the interior, hungary, poland, and you have a very different set of circumstances. it all hangs on a much faster asylum system, which they say will be completing asylum requests within 12 weeks, but i
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know, having covered crossings overseas, there are people who come from states that don't legitimately have asylu m from states that don't legitimately have asylum claims, they throw away their passports, you can't find out where they are from, you need interrogators and translators, it's a competitive process, and that is why you get this back—up, these thousands of people who are stuck in the centres. —— it's a complicated process. this is super competitive, people arriving with no documents, either by no fault of their own or because they have thrown them away, but what is clear is the eu collectively has got to have ways to move faster to process these cases, so move faster to process these cases, so they are looking at creating a system with some initial screening to figure out quite quickly, as best they can, this is someone who has an asylu m they can, this is someone who has an asylum claim needs to be considered carefully, that will go forward, or maybe this person isn't entitled to stay in the eu and then figure out, can you send them back? these returns or deportations is a key proponent of the plan. there are
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advocates that there is not the right way to go, but they are trying to strike a balance. the problem is it's not collective, is it? the ink isn't even dry on this plan and you already have countries like austria pushing back against it. they don't wa nt pushing back against it. they don't want distribution of refuges like this. absolutely, and that's the mark of a potential compromise, where nobody will be fully happy and everybody will be somewhat disappointment. what they have done which is creative is they have created some mechanisms for toys, within the solidarity system, to say, if you are a country like austria or hungary which really doesn't want to accept asylum seekers, it doesn't want to accept refugees, hey, you can do your part, ta ke refugees, hey, you can do your part, take some of the pressure of greece, italy and spain by returning those folks who can't stay, who don't have the legal right to stay in the eu, and that's also difficult and expensive and complicated process, but it gives some mechanism to say, even those countries which don't
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wa nt to even those countries which don't want to be part of accepting new citizens in that fashion are able to participate and help to ease the pressure by sending those folks, irregular migrants who don't have a right to stay, back. thank you. the political and legal worlds have been turned upside—down here in the us following the passing ofjustice ruth bader ginsburg. democrats and republicans are battling over how and when to replace her on the bench. president trump says he will announce his pick on saturday — and since republicans have a senate majority, his nominee is almost certain to be confirmed. susan collins is one of only two republican senators who have opposed the decision to move ahead before november's presidential election — a position that has complicated her own tough fight for re—election in maine. jane 0'brien sent this report from portland. there are few industries associated with maine as closely as lobster fishing. president trump has presented himself as a staunch supporter, but political gridlock in washington over the supreme court nomination
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needs another pandemic relief package is almost certainly dead. now, the state is at the centre of the battle over republican control of the senate. bubba is a local wholesaler who has to navigate these political tides as well as those in the gulf of maine. you can't escape the senate race right now — and pretty soon, you're not going to be able to escape the presidential race. it doesn't matter if you listen to the radio, the news or walk down the street. it's everywhere. ithink... i mean, i can only speakfor myself. i just can't wait until november, until this is all over, until it's all over. so i don't have to hear about it. my opponents say i've changed. i haven't, but politics sure has. republican senator susan collins is already in a tough reelection fight, and her opposition to president trump's decision to move ahead with a supreme court
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pick before the election may not have gained her much support among independents or moderate republicans. her former deputy campaign director says toxic national politics are destroying her position as a centrist. the president has unleashed a whole new way of doing business. his insult—driven, petty grievance, retaliatory method of politics has, sadly, spread notjust through republicans — it's spread into both parties. so the cancel culture, the outrage, the same retaliatory issues that people accuse donald trump of, hard—core democrats are now using against susan collins. this used to be a state where voting for the candidate rather than the party was not uncommon but, as with the rest of america, that's almost unthinkable now. i think they want
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to divide us. i think it's easier to control a divided nation, so i think that's the role. it's like much of the rest of the country. we are divided. it didn't used to be like that. no, but it didn't used to be like this in the country. it's a sad state, a sad country. because the republicans hold the majority in the senate, president trump will likely get his supreme court pick confirmed even without senator collins's support, but her seat is vulnerable and, with it, the senate majority. neath those still waters of portland harbour, there may well lurking the perfect storm. that perfect storm certainly swirling over washington at the moment. when we talk about left and right and the supreme court, interesting to hear the chief justice today talking about the court family, because they sit it —— they sit on it for life, and obviously a relationship builds
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between these justices. in the next half of the programme, we will show you some of the speech we got from chiefjustice roberts today. there are interesting and worth a watch. hello there. we have seen much cooler air push across the uk during the day today but a real contrast in weather fortunes. for england and wales, it's been cloudy with some fairly heavy outbreaks of rain around — that was the scene in wrexham earlier on. and you can see as the rain has been pushing its way eastwards, it's been turning heavier. notice the darker blues here in our rain band. further north in scotland though, the cooler air has been accompanied by sunny skies and still conditions. what a beautiful picture this is from fort augustus in the highlands. now, as we head towards midnight tonight, you'll notice the rain still hasn't cleared away from eastern england though probably another area of rain affecting parts of the midlands and east anglia, too. all the while as this huck of rain develops, there's an area of low pressure that's forming and so it gets quite windy around some of our north sea coasts,
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not english channel coasts. it becomes drier for a time but then the next batch of wet and windy weather will be extending into wales and south—west england later in the night. so, for england and wales, rain at times. quite a bit of dry weather for northern ireland, and staying dry in scotland with clear skies. here, in the countryside, it'll be cold enough for a few areas of frost to develop. thursday's weather picture dominated by low pressure. the first one moving away from the east coast. the next one rattling into the south—west very quickly, and this one will be bringing heavy outbreaks of rain particularly across wales and western areas of england and the winds will be strengthening through the day as well, reaching gale force — we're expecting gusts probably in excess of 50 mph across parts of south—west england and maybe pembrokeshire as well. so, it will be a very blowy kind of day — and those kind of winds strong enough to bring down some tree branches. for northern ireland, rain not far away. scotland largely dry and sunny after that locally frosty start but still cold, 11 or 12 degrees the high here. through friday, as that area of low pressure moves
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away to the continent, we start to draw down these northerly winds. so, it is going to feel quite chilly on friday. there will be showers coming down through the irish sea coast. and showers or longer ourbreaks of rain affecting eastern areas of england — all the while gusty northerly winds. now, inland, there will be some areas that stay dry, sunny with sparkling visibility, but it will feel chilly, 11—1a degrees. factor in those northerly winds, feeling a bit colder than that. and those brisk winds still with us to the first half of the weekend. perhaps still with some rain around across eastern england. some bright weather for sunday.
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you're watching bbc news with me, katty kay, in washington. christian fraser is in london. our top stories: one of the the three police officers involved in fatally shooting breonna taylor, a black medical worker in louisville, kentucky, is to be indicted — but not for ms taylor's killing. america's unspoken minority, the non—voter. six in ten americans choose not to cast their ballots, even in election years. we'll ask one of them, "why not?" also in the programme: we're in america's fastest growing county — it's in arizona, a crucial swing state which currently has both presidential candidates too close to call. —— both presidential candidates and and neck. and donald trump made a name for himself talking
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about business and money. a new book says his interest in profits didn't stop at the white house door. protesters have ta ken to the streets of louisville, kentucky, following the announcement by the state's attorney general that only one of the three police officers involved in the shooting death of breonna taylor is to be indicted. and the charges are not for the killing, but rather because some of his bullets went into a neighbour's flat. 0r, or, as the indictment says, the endangerment. the two other officers who fired shots during the botched raid on her apartment remain employed. these are live pictures from louisville. earlier, we saw police officers making arrests. officers had placed barricades
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around downtown this week to reduce access and a 9pm curfew has been imposed for this evening. we're joined now by dr rashawn ray, a sociology professor and fellow at the brookings institution. good to have you with us. i was listening to the attorney general a little earlier, and he said, we have very vigorous self—defense laws and it seems the grand jury came to the conclusion that because they were fired upon in the front door, they acted in self—defense. what do you make of that? according to the law, that's correct, and the problem with that's correct, and the problem with that lot is that, simultaneously, all the police officers have the right to defend themselves, the homeowner also had a right to defend himself. that's the reason why he has not been charged as well. the bottom line is this, when he comes to no knock warrants, even though they say they knock, the neighbours have said they did not hear anybody say police, no knock warrants are more elected to be issued in phenomenally black neighbourhoods and also more likely to be issued for black households relative to white households, and at the end of the day, breonna taylor is at the
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end ofa the day, breonna taylor is at the end of a long list of what people say black —— say — — say black —— say black lives matter. that is why they say can say her name. breonna taylor did not have a weapon. she was living in her home and a black person is killed every 48 hours in the united states and that's why people are in the streets. the interesting thing is the detective who has fire the ten shots, brett hankison, he was fired from hisjob shots, brett hankison, he was fired from his job and shots, brett hankison, he was fired from hisjob and louisville has paid out $12 million to the family in compensation, so in a way, there has been some guilt assumed here and went on in that apartment in the killing of breonna taylor, no punishment. that happens all too often. there is in the united states something that is called qualified immunity. that often times gives police officers, where they are not held accountable and he comes to civil culpability, criminal culpability, and that is we are seeing here. on the one hand,
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officer fired, it is clear something we nt officer fired, it is clear something went wrong, and yet there are no charges for her murder when he simply shoots bullets to another home and he charge for that. we also know there are $12 million, a lot of which are lawyer fees which will not go to breonna taylor's family, it does not come from a policed deferment budget, does not happen from a police department insurance policy, instead, it is from... breonna taylor is could be paid back —— family is going to be paid back for the mercy of a family member. —— murder of family for the mercy of a family member. —— murderof family member. for the mercy of a family member. —— murder of family member. you've mentioned it two things through the course of this interview that should be looked at and open to be reformed, the no knock warrants and theissue reformed, the no knock warrants and the issue of who exley pays these pay—outs for civilian cases, whether
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the taxpayer or the police department, do you think that any progress has been made since the killing of george floyd around the issue of police reform or broadly in the country? i think so, i think there's been a lot of change. in the george floyd situation, all of this office rs george floyd situation, all of this officers were fired, in louisville, a officer was fired, the police chief resigned, and around the country, their task forces, places banding no knock warrants in louisville, in virginia. there's a lot of momentum. and the biggest momentum is the george floyd justice in policing act passed by the federal husker presented. ifjoe biden wins and four seats go to democrats, the senate will be identical majority and the justice in policing apple go and it is the
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most —— act and it will be the most comprehensive police reform. do you see any individual presents around the country... i know for example at san diego, shortly after the killing of george floyd, band chuckles immediate the. do you see significant numbers of policing departments changing their practices, change the ways they allowed to operate? there are definitely a lot of police department change what they do, trying to scale up implicit bias trainings, scaled—down no knock warrants, do a lot of other things in relation to body worn cameras. this is the problem my research shows, these are individualistic solutions for a structural and organisational problem. if we really wa nt organisational problem. if we really want to change policing as a profession in the united states, we need to make also change —— also change. and i think that shift when it comes to taxpayer money is a big thing. the other thing, when it
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comes to misconduct, often times, community members are not involved in those decisions. the need to be civilians on the trial board or the jury civilians on the trial board or the jury within the police departments they can make sure there's transparency, equity and accountability, so everybody is treated fairly. 0k, dr rashawn ray, thank you very much forjoining. two of the officers involved in the shooting of breonna taylor will not be charged, the third will be charged, but not in her killing. i have already read that, haven't i?|j had have already read that, haven't i?” had the same which my end too... let's move onto the next story. sorry, guys, nothing new. let's move on to arizona, shall we? it's live television. although it's tempting to see the us
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presidential election as one big campaign, it's really 50 smaller battles. for the challengerjoe biden, victory will come if he manages to flip a tiny number of marginal states. one of the democrats' main targets is arizona, where the population is changing fast. the state that has voted for republicans for generations and returned the late senator john mccain to the senate for three decades looks like it could, this time around, slip out of the president's hands. according to the polls, latino voters are making the difference. from arizona, our us correspondent david grossman reports. maricopa county in arizona is the fastest growing county in the united states and, as it changes, the republican pa rty‘s old electoral advantage here is eroding fast. if we flood maricopa county blue, we're going to almost for sure flip arizona blue. and if arizona goes blue, we're going to win back the white house. one of the elements that's weathering the republican vote in this state is demographic change. white arizonans are declining as a proportion of the population. in their place, latinos —
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many of whom are younger, less wedded to the traditions of the past, more impatient for change. will you be voting this november? laid—off hotel workers are learning how to canvas for the democrats in phoenix. despite the pandemic, the union organisers here believe there's no substitute for door—to—door campaigning. in the streets around phoenix, it's 107 degrees in the shade — or it would be if there was any shade. the fact that maggie acosta is out campaigning for the democrats tells you about her determination. she's now a us citizen — but aged 1a, she walked two days and nights across the desert from mexico. she tells me that many latinos are reluctant to vote at all, fearful about coming to the attention of a vengeful government machine. it's part of myjob to just educate them and let them know that those things are not going to happen,
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that that's why we... this is a country where we're free of speech, free of deciding what we want to do. and that's not what they had. a lot of the people, even though they are citizens, many, they come from countries where they don't have that, so they still have that fear. latino voters don't all vote democrat. according to the polls, around a third are republican supporters — like betty and jorge rivas. as family—centred, religious small business owners, they say they vote on moral values. the democratic party is running, or going away, from all the things that makes us who we are. so, if they don't support believing in god and caring for your children, making sure that they go to school, that they are honest people and they are not going out breaking windows and taking away,
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stealing what doesn't belong to them, that's not the party that i want to support. if donald trump loses arizona, it's probably all over for his presidency. demographics suggest that, at some point, arizona will turn from red to blue. it is just a matter of when. david grossman reporting. it's interesting, there are a bunch of states reporting that, if he loses, it's all over for states reporting that, if he loses, it's all overfor him. the challenge for democrats and republicans is not necessarily pursuading voters to change sides. not many are going to do that. for both parties, it is about motivating their own voters, as well as giving those who don't normally vote a reason to turnout. this year, the number of votes cast will certainly be higher. and yet there will still be something like 100 million americans who don't vote at all. and that means that the largest bloc of the electorate are actually people who don't exercise their basic civic right. in 2016, more than a0% of adults
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who live in the us did not vote. and if "did not vote" had been a candidate, this is what the political map would have looked like. isn't that extraordinary? they'd have taken all the states that are brown. we are joined now by herant papazian, a teacher in los angeles who has never voted. you have never voted, neverfelt the inclination to vote. why?” you have never voted, neverfelt the inclination to vote. why? i always felt the inclination, being a armenian from lebanon, but i have to do whatever have to do. it has not produced and i don't think cannot “ can —— can produce a trustful candidate. i don't want to play along. i think it's more honourable and, in a small way, hope. you look but what will your boycott do? because you don't have a voice, you have not chosen to have a voice, you have not chosen to
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have a voice, you have not chosen to have a voice. so i don't know what it would lead to. actually, i use my voice, and i get a lot of slack for that because i refuse to choose a side in this polarised landscape. my voice is much more rather than my vote. my vote is one thing, my voice can reach more places, like on your show now. the point is, for me, it is radical, we are in a spiral, a general —— downward spiral. the thing is to bring down the voter turnout enough that something breaks and, hopefully, we can get more justice in society. are there things... i imagine there are some things in america you don't like. i don't know. the health care system may not
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be perfect, the taxation system i not be perfect, criminaljustice reform — there must be something you don't like about the country, right? there is something i like and don't like about many things. i moved here when i was 18, and as a child, i was more enamoured with the country. my point is that, if there things about the country you don't like, if you don't vote, to try to change those things, you don't really have a right to complain about them, do you? paradoxically, ithink right to complain about them, do you? paradoxically, i think it's right to complain about them, do you? paradoxically, ithink it's the other way around. i think that if you vote, you are playing along, because no president is going to be on the site of the people. the president is, to me, four or eight years, they get swapped out, and the people in power stay in power, the wealth gap increases, the societies become more fragmented because we are told to be visually boating as
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pa rt of are told to be visually boating as part of that, —— told individually to be part of that. i don't think political candidates are sensitive to that. i think theyjust want to keep doing politics as theirjob and they would do anything to maintain their position. they don't have to be sincere, unlike people you know personally. 0k, herant papazian, thank you very much forjoining us. very interesting perspective, that. i suspect a majority of the 100 million who don't bother to vote are not doing so out of an ideological conviction, like mr papazian, is much more likely to be not that, but that's a very strong position. a series of services for the late supreme courtjustice ruth bader ginsburg kicked off in washington today. family members and former colleagues paid tribute to the legal icon
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in a brief ceremony at the court itself, before her casket went on display for the public to pay its respects. yes, the passing ofjustice ginsburg was a watershed moment for the bench. she was only the second woman to ever serve on america's highest court and, for 27 years, she served to give a voice to those who did not have one. i thought we were going to hear from chiefjohn roberts himself, i promise you we will hear that. let's just have a listen. justice ginsburg's life was one of the many versions of the american dream. her father was an immigrant from odessa, her mother was born four months after her family arrived from poland. her mother later worked as a book—keeper in brooklyn. ruth used to ask, "what is the difference between a book—keeper in brooklyn and a supreme courtjustice?" her answer? "0ne generation. " 0ne generation! one generation! justice roberts there. there is a lovely story about
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how ruth bader ginsburg went to sweden in the 1960s to study the swedish legal system, and she's been turned on for almost every legaljob in america. the onlyjob she did get was as a typist. she arrives in sweden, she is studying the system, she arrives in a courtroom and the judge is a woman and the eight months pregnant. and apparently she came back from that and thought, 0k, we need to change in america and we can change in america, and she spent much of her legal career fighting for women's rights in the country. i love the idea of this judge turning up love the idea of this judge turning up and seeing something totally different and realising what is possible. do stay with us on bbc news. still to come: do president trump's separate business entities created conflicts of interest for him? we'll be speaking to investigative journalist dan alexander about his new book, white house, inc. road hauliers have reacted angrily to a warning from the government
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that there could be queues of 7,000 lorries in kent, if companies fail to prepare for the end of the brexit transition period. they've accused ministers of trying to shift blame for the possible impact of no trade deal being with the eu. here's our economics editor, faisal islam. decades of seamless cross—channel trade without checks will come to an end when great britain exits the single market and customs union in 100 days' time. and the warning from government is that everyone should plan on the basis that thousands of lorries could be stranded in kent. it is the worst nightmare for traders, particularly in perishable goods, such as david catt from kent. 2a hours in the life of the produce is a long time. and we put an order in this morning for holland that will be here at 2am tomorrow morning and if that order doesn't arrive at 2am tomorrow
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morning, i've got no produce to load onto my vehicles. the produce has to be here on time. otherwise, the whole of my business just collapses. he was responding after bbc news obtained the letter from the cabinet office minister michael gove to the freight industry acknowledging that the end of the brexit transition period could see... ..and... ..as france applies border checks to all hauliers without new required trade paperwork. this is what the government refers to as a reasonable worst—case scenario, and it sounds familiar because it's rather similar to some of what was in the no—deal brexit documentation last year. but this is the first time the government has referred to mass disruption as a possible consequence of its oven—ready deal on the 1st of january, 2021. the government's aim with this is to get traders prepared. the hauliers, though, fear that they are getting the blame for any disruption.
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before the election four years ago, donald trump claimed that his business acumen made him a good fit to be president. but a new book by forbes senior editor dan alexander questions some of the business decisions he has taken. it also takes a thorough look at the president's finances. one of its more stunning conclusions is that the president would be more than $a00 million better off had he liquidated his assets at the inauguration and put it all into a mutual fund. the book, white house, inc, explores trump's hotels, his golf courses, his licensing deals — in fact, the entirety of his real estate empire. let's speak now to the author, dan alexander. congratulations on your book and what is a very thorough investigation. i just wonder what is a very thorough investigation. ijust wonder how difficult it is to keep up with? it isa difficult it is to keep up with? it is a huge hotel empire and leisure empire he has built, it is global. i would imagine tracking money from
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the federal government to president trump for all the various parts of his empire might be quite difficult. it certainly is difficult. the good news is, there has not been a single day in the last four years that i walked into the office and thought, lam not walked into the office and thought, i am not sure what i'm good right about today. the bad news is i have not had a whole lot of sleep because you follow some of the trades money different going the sways —— i'd have not got a whole lot to write about today. this what i'm trying to do with the book, get a better idea. to use —— do you suspect, looking at his finances and what has happened over the last four years, some of this will come back to haunt him if he is not president in four months‘ time? it has a ready come back to haunt him. if you look some of the most consumer facing businesses he has, his golf courses, his resorts, his hotels, if you anger have to
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country, you're losing a lot of potential customers. he has already lost huge amount of monies in those businesses. what you may be referring to, will there be legal consulate is? we have to see him at the 50 tax returns come out, and it looks like eventually they will, they could find evidence he was not paying his full taxes. that could be very painful. there are other things like his violations of the foreign emoluments clause that could put them injeopardy, emoluments clause that could put them in jeopardy, but emoluments clause that could put them injeopardy, but it might become a political calculation, whether or not they actually would prosecute him for something like that or whether itjust becomes prosecute him for something like that or whether it just becomes a stain on his record. dan, one of the issues are and president trump was whether he might be subject to outside influence because he had business relations with various people, and in the book, you detail all of the people who are tenants, various tenants, of trump properties around the country. what did you find when you looked into people who
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rent properties from him, therefore pay money to him? did they have outside influence? certainly, and if you just look at the initial numbers, the numbers are pretty staggering. i found numbers, the numbers are pretty staggering. ifound more numbers, the numbers are pretty staggering. i found more than 150 different tenants that are accountable for an estimated $177 million in the annual rents. if you break down that group, 35 of those tenants at least have lobbied the foreign government, or the federal government, while president trump has been in office. 20 of those have lobbied either the executive office of the president or trump himself, 17 of them have been under investigation while the lender has beenin investigation while the lender has been in office, there were four tenants that were entities referencing foreign government entities, so you at all of that up and it shows a tremendous amount of potential conflicts, and frankly, there is so much that people do not even know who these tenants were, let alone why they were paying the
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money or what the motivation is behind it, and here we are, almost through his first term in the presidency, and there were still all these huge questions. dan alexander, keeping you awake for years! i suspect there is still more to keep you all awake for another volume more! shall we finish with a gratuitous animal story? i have searched high and low today, and it‘s pretty thin pickings, but then i found this. animal rescuers in scotland are trying to find the owner of an adventurous cockatiel thatjoined fishermen on a boat about ten miles from shore. there he is! really? the bird was found out at sea near troon, ayrshire — a long, long way from home. good job there was a boat because... this is what surprises me. they can‘t swim well.
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scottish animal rescue have named him heihei, after the bird in the film moana who stows away on a boat. so far, no sign of the owner. really? that's a long way. get home, heihei! hello there. we have had the transition to much cooler air across the united kingdom, and that cooler air arrived with much more in the way of sunshine in scotland. what a beautiful picture this is from the highlands. you can see very still conditions there over the lochs. now, looking at the drop in temperatures we‘ve seen between tuesday, when we had temperatures into the mid—20s, well, for quite a few areas on wednesday, it was actually around 6 to 8 degrees celsius cooler, and we‘ve got some yet cooler air that‘s still to arrive as the winds ultimately, over the next couple of days, go round to more of a northerly. thursday — well, low pressure is firmly in charge of our weather, and that means we‘ll see unsettled conditions, heavy outbreaks of rain in the forecast across england and wales.
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the wettest weather across south—western areas, where it‘s also going to become increasingly windy, with gales developing through the day. gusts of wind around the coast and hills of south—west england and perhaps pembrokeshire are likely to be around 50mph, maybe even a bit stronger than that. rain not far away for northern ireland, but it‘s in scotland that we‘ll have the best of the dry weather and sunshine. after a locally frosty start, temperatures only 11 or 12 degrees. and through thursday night, the low pressure slowly moves across into europe, so we‘ll see further downpours with us overnight. for friday, as that low continues to push its way eastwards, we then get the northerly winds moving in across the country, and of course that will drag in some even cooler air. so, it looks like being a particularly chilly day on friday, with showers around. showers feeding down the irish sea coasts. showers, or longer outbreaks of rain, affecting eastern areas of england, and all with some very brisk northerly winds that will be blowing around. now, there should be quite a bit of sunshine across inland areas, but it‘s going to feel chilly,
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especially when you factor in those brisk northerly winds. temperatures 11 to 1a degrees celsius. now, the weekend — there‘s a degree of uncertainty as to how close these weather fronts get to our shores from europe, and indeed the speed of the arrival of atlantic fronts later in the weekend, but i think on saturday we‘ll still have those strong northerly winds blowing across eastern parts of scotland, eastern areas of england, and we could see some rain returning from the continent to affect some eastern areas as well. the best of the dry weather probably across western parts, but wherever you are, feeling chilly again, temperatures 11 to 1a degrees for many of us. the second half of the weekend — the winds are still coming down from the north, but they‘re not as strong so it won‘t feel quite as chilly. again, though, we could see some cloudy weather affecting eastern areas, with showers and maybe some lengthier outbreaks of rain here, probably a slice of drier and brighter weather a little bit further west, and those temperatures still below average for the time of year, 11 to 1a or 15 degrees celsius. 0n into monday, it looks
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like we‘ll start to see more of an atlantic influence and, with that, temperatures will slowly start to climb by a couple of degrees or so. still some showers or perhaps some areas of rain across western areas to watch out for, and those temperatures coming up to about 17 through the afternoon, monday — cardiff, london and in norwich as well. now, as we delve deeper into the week ahead, there‘s a lot of uncertainty in the forecast, and that‘s one of the weird things in meteorology — you can forecast how uncertain the atmosphere is. generally, we‘re looking at quite an unsettled weather pattern, but there‘s no consistency from day to day. there really is no detail to put on exactly who will see the heaviest outbreaks of rain, but it does look like it‘s going to stay quite unsettled into next week. that‘s the latest.
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