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this is bbc news. i'm rachel schofield. the headlines... the chancellor rishi sunak announces a newjob support scheme lasting six months from november, but admits that he can't promise that "everyone can go back to the job that they used to have". mr speaker, these are radical interventions in the uk labour market — policies we have never tried in this country before. a planned rise in vat has also been cancelled, and businesses will now have longer to pay back government loans. labour believes rishi sunak should have acted sooner. unions say the measure will save hundreds of thousands of jobs. after months of delay, the nhs covid—19 contact tracing app goes live in england and wales.
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anyone with a compatible smartphone is being urged to download it. and coming up: with 100 days less to go until the brexit transition period ends, we will look at how ready businesses are for the change. good afternoon. we will be outlining for you the chancellor's new measures to protectjobs. just a quick line of breaking news, i don't have all the details, butjust in terms of quarantine in countries where you can travel to, we are now hearing that denmark has been removed from the safe list of countries. denmark is coming off that list. we can see there the transport secretary grant chaps
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making a point there on his twitter feed. he goes on... that's the latest on the travel situation. the chancellor has set out new measures to protect millions ofjobs and the economy over the winter. rishi sunak described the measures as "radical interventions" never before attempted in the uk. a new "job support scheme" replaces furlough for employees working a minimum of 33% of their normal hours. the scheme will last six months, and "directly support" the wages of workers in viable jobs. government will cover a third of workers' lost pay, with the employer making up another third. support will be targeted at firms needing help the most. that is businesses facing lower demand overwinter due to covid—19.
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mr sunak has announced a "pay as you grow" scheme to allow firms to repay bounce back loans over a period of up to ten years. the chancellor said he would keep vat at 5% for hospitality and tourism until 31 march, 2021. for labour, the shadow chancellor said the government's response was "too slow" to help businesses and employees struggling with the coronavirus crisis. anneliese dodds said many people had already lost theirjobs. from westminster, jessica parker reports. how are you going to pay for all of this, chancellor? it's a good question, though it may be a while before it's answered. the chancellor, flanked today by union and business leaders. there is no red box because there is no budget. instead, a winter plan. chancellor... in the commons he said that while there were reasons for cautious optimism, it was clear the virus and restrictions would be a fact
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of life for at least the next six months. our economy is now likely to undergo a more permanent adjustment. the sources of our economic growth and the kinds ofjobs we create will adapt and evolve to the new normal. and our plan needs to adapt and evolve in response. furlough will end, arriving in its place a wage subsidy scheme from november. the government will directly support the wages of people in work, giving businesses who face depressed demand the option of keeping employees in a job on shorter hours rather than making them redundant. also in the package, extending loan schemes, further deferring some tax bills and keeping the lower 5% vat rate for hospitality and tourism until next spring. shadow chancellor anneliese dodds. labour said there was much in
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the statement to be welcomed, but... i've called for the introduction of a system of targeted wage support 40 times. that call has been rebuffed by this government 20 times. it's a relief this government have u—turned now. but we must be open and honest. that delay in introducing this new scheme will have impacted on businesses' confidence. we in these benches are glad the chancellor has accepted the need to extend support, but he is coming very late in the day to do this and it's little comfort to those who have already lost theirjobs due to the impending ending of the furlough scheme. there is now no budget this year, no longer term tax and spending plans. instead, the focus, and the money, is going into getting the economy through the immediate crisis. working out how to pay for it all,
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that will come later. cafes, restau ra nts wa nted to go full steam ahead, but after the latest restrictions many will be looking for some further help. having some level of support is going to give confidence. it's confidence, not only to our own staff, but our customers. so as we come to the end of the furlough scheme, there is a lot of unknown. in topping up some workers' wages the spending taps may be on. but as much as before? i think it is really important to be clear that this is significantly less generous than the furlough scheme. a lot of those workers who are currently not working at all are likely now, i think, to lose theirjobs because they are only going to get support from the government if they are working at least a third of their hours. the warning lights came back on after a rise in infections, frustrating those impatient to get the economy going again.
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health and wealth tied together, with millions ofjobs at stake. jessica parker, bbc news. we're looking at chancellor's announcements from lots of different perspectives. drjoe marshall is the chief executive of the national centre for universities and business. hejoins me now. i guess it's young people who are on your mind? indeed. we obviously welcome the chancellor's announcements today, keeping people injob is announcements today, keeping people in job is important. announcements today, keeping people injob is important. but what about that generation of people entering into the labour market? how do we help support them, who for them, this may be one of the only opportunities to get into permanent jobs? just give us a sense, before we unpick some of what you've heard today, where we are at now when you look at the young people who are crossing your path? what kind of challenges are you seeing them experience? how bad is it for people perhaps leaving university and looking to make their first foray
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into the world of work? since march, we've seen i think 156,000 people between 16—24 who are now not on payroll, and they've either been furloughed or lost their primary job. this is significantly more than any other group already before these announcements were made today. so we are acutely aware that this could be quite a lasting damage to this group of stu d e nts quite a lasting damage to this group of students coming into the labour market. so looking at the quotes that have been put out from your press release, "today's announcements offers little reassurance to these young people? was quote element clearly protecting those young people is much as he ca ns those young people is much as he cans that are in work, but for those generation will be a lifeblood for businesses up and down the country, how can we support them to help them
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get that foot into the door, the opportunity to be in the workplace? because they want to contribute but if they can't find a job, if employers are closing the door to them, how do we help businesses open them, how do we help businesses open the door and bring in this next generation of talent?” the door and bring in this next generation of talent? i think you would've had some ideas for that that haven't been forthcoming yet. tell us more about what you'd like to see? clearly the chancellor today has had to make difficult decisions about the furlough scheme. clearly a whole raft of different decisions and priorities that he's having to balance. but we would've liked to see the chancellor think about that younger generation of people who wa nt to younger generation of people who want to get into the world of work, who would like the opportunity to make their contribution and help the economy recover. and as part of that, we were recommending that perhaps the government could step in as up partner for businesses and offer 50% to those under 25, for an opportunity to take on work experience or an apprenticeship. we
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see a system already where a firm that hires somebody between 16—24 as an apprentice is given £2000. you feel that's not a significant amount of money? clearly the chancellor in the treasury have got to make some big decisions. the kick starter programme is a really important start. we must remember that the kick—start scheme hasn't started yet, and the chancellor will be very keen for that to start. but we have a generation who have graduated this summer who want to startjobs, they wa nt to summer who want to startjobs, they want to start their careers, so how can we help businesses not close the door to them, but through this very difficult time be supportive to employ and hire graduates as they start their careers? doctorjoe marshall, thank you for your reports this afternoon.
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and just to let you know that at 5.30pm we'll answer your questions on what you make of the new measures announced by the chancellor to supportjobs and the economy. that's in just under half an hour — so stay with us for that. the government's coronavirus contact—tracing app for england and wales, which has suffered delays and setbacks, can now be downloaded on smartphones. nhs covid—19 will instruct users to self—isolate if it detects they were near someone who has the virus. our technology correspondent rory cellanjones has more. the nhs covid—19 app is a vital part in the fight against coronavirus... it's been a long and difficult journey, but finally, the nhs covid—19 app is here for everyone across england and wales. it has a number of features. you can scan a qr code to register your presence at pubs, restaurants and other businesses, and it gives you information about the risk level where you live. and, of course, it's designed
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to tell you if you've been in close contact with someone infected with the virus. what the app can do is find the contacts that human contact tracers can't find. for instance, people you don't know because, in the example i gave, you've been sitting near them on public transport. that might be one example, but there will be others, and therefore it helps us to find more people who are at risk of having the virus. this is how it works. the app uses a bluetooth connection, and if you come into close contact with others who have downloaded it, that will be recorded on your phone. should you report a positive test through your phone, those people who have been in close contact with you will be sent an alert telling them to self—isolate. an earlier version of the app trialled on the isle of wight was criticised for collecting too much data. it was cancelled and the new model relies on a privacy—conscious system developed by apple and google.
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now, if you do have significant contact with someone who later reports a positive test result, then you'll get a notification telling you you must go into isolation. but the very private nature of the app means the government won't know who you are and whether you received that alert, so it's all a matter of trust whether you obey that warning. one issue is that the app won't work on some older phones, but that applies to all those apps around the world which have relied on the technology from apple and google. it's simply the ability for the phone to be able to do its very, very clever "contact the other phone thing", so theyjust don't have that in older phones. so, it's a techy thing, not a policy thing, so itjust can't happen, so we have had some. the vast majority of phones in the hands of the people across the uk are post—2015, and it works in them. scotland and northern ireland have already had their own contact tracing apps for some weeks. the scottish app was downloaded
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by a million people — about one fifth of the population — within a week. ministers will be happy if people in england and wales show similar enthusiasm. rory cellan—jones, bbc news. let's look at how this will work alongside businesses. trish 0'brien is the manager of the orange tree pub in chelmsford, and amanda fall, salon director at kh hair in leicester. great to have you both here. amanda, first to you, a hair salon — you're being told how you can use this app from your side of things. tell us more. yes, obviously clients that come in can use the app. staff can also use the app, as well. we had... all my staff are totally protected, so i'm very happy about that situation. i'm more conscious if a
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member of my staff gets it, and then they have to self—isolate for 1h days. that's when it has a knock on effect, because obviously then they can't work for 1h days, which has an impact on the clientele that comes in. so that's where my worry lies, with my staff getting it. the other thing is three of my 15 staff don't have phones that will work with this app, and will people turn the app off? will that work for me? people with morals will probably do it, but others won't do it still. you raise some interesting concerns there. we bring in trish. just from people's point of you who are thinking this
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app, do they have to scan a qr code to show that they been in the pub? yes, they come in and they scan the qr code, the nhs app. it worked pretty well today for us, and we've had 1— does my customers coming in today. they got some help from the staff, and i think there isjust one person whose phone didn't comply, but they filled in a track and trace form. 0ther but they filled in a track and trace form. other than that, but they filled in a track and trace form. 0therthan that, everyone is quite happy to use it. on that point, trish, you already had a system in place which was paper and pen system, as we all experience when we've been in the pubs and restau ra nts. when we've been in the pubs and restaurants. how does this app work alongside your existing system? is it meant to replace it ultimately?
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yes, hopefully. this is a much better system for us, and continually having to make sure people are not left the tables for too long — it's more secure for people... it can work alongside if somebody can't work it on their phone, and hopefully eventually it will be the main way of taking track and trace. amanda, on that point, do you feel some relief that the onus is being taken off business owners to keep track of who's been in and keep all their details, and for there to be a centralised system for this? i quite like it. obviously they can't see your information, so i quite like the app for that. for me with my clients coming in, we
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have clients turning in their information already, because obviously we do keep e—mails and telephone numbers as a way of communicating with the clients. so i really don't want to force the clients to do it because we have a lot of their information already. but like bars and restaurants, it's definitely a good thing to do.|j but like bars and restaurants, it's definitely a good thing to do. i can see people coming in who are unknown to you. trish, amanda made the point that some people don't like giving their details, and i was hearing anecdotally that in a lot of pubs, these forms get filled in and there's a lot of daniel craig and richard 0smond who are popping into the pub. do you feel people are giving you genuine details? to some people not like the idea of being tracked and traced? there are some people who have some problems with it, yes. but generally, most of the forms that are filled in have genuine numbers and names. and we
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can check some of them, not all them, but most that we pick up. but other than that, they are mostly genuine names and numbers. ok, it's really good of you both to share your experiences. thank you very much and good luck with the new app. students at universities in scotland are being told they will be breaking the law if they leave their student accommodation and return home to stay with their families. it comes after a significant outbreak at the university of glasgow where124 students have tested positive for coronavirus and more than 600 students have had to self—isolate. scotland's national clinical director, jason leitch, said that students living in halls and flats cannot meet indoor with another household and this includes their parents. earlier learning gordon told us how advice given to the public and
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stu d e nts advice given to the public and students has changed. it's a clarification from the national clinical director. yesterday evening on television, he was saying that those who are self isolating can't go home and visit their parents, those who've tested positive can't go home and visit their parents. but to everyone else, he was saying to think very carefully about whether you go. with this afternoon, he issued this clarification on social media on twitter where he said, "to clarify, they are separate households." so once you move away from yourfamilial households." so once you move away from your familial home and into flats with a bunch of other students, they become your household bubble. he said there are exceptions, eg carrying responsibilities, but the law is clear, "they can't meet indoors in another household, even if the household is mum and dad. sorry." i think it's fair to say this is inciting strong opinions in the self—selecting group of people on twitter, and not all of them are
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happy with what he's saying. but remember, the rules changed here in scotla nd remember, the rules changed here in scotland yesterday because of this uptick in the number of people testing positive for coronavirus, and the scottish government said they no longer want households anywhere in scotland to mix indoors. and that applies to students as well. nicola sturgeon has said that this will be reviewed every three weeks. but she did warn when she announced that this change that the regulations may be needed longer than the initial three weeks, as well. lorna gordon reporting there. let's return to the chancellor's announcements on support for jobs threatened by the pandemic. i'm joined now by frances 0'grady, general secretary of the trades union congress. thanks so much for being with us. what did you make of the chancellor's announcement this lunchtime? the unions have long pressed for a short time working scheme, and that's what this is.
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it's very similar to that offered in germany, france, and elsewhere. and it will help protectjobs around their needs, that just it will help protectjobs around their needs, thatjust need some more time to get back up and running. when it won't do is helping those firms that are flat on their backs, and will need targeted support for industries like retail, a rts support for industries like retail, arts and culture, hospitality to help those firms do just that. i'll pick that point up with you in a moment about targeted support. but just on the generalities of the scheme, thisjob just on the generalities of the scheme, this job support scheme, just hearing that the treasury estimates that between 2—5,000,000 people will be covered by the job support scheme. we've heard that thatis support scheme. we've heard that that is obviously not as generous a furlough. how do you compare the two and how are you —— happy are you about the switch? i think these are different schemes with different
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intentions. a short time working scheme is really about support for firms that need that breathing space and extra support to pay wages to keep going. but i think where we've got firms that are in real trouble, the chancellor really will need to come back to the table and work with business in unions to look at how we can ensure that industries like aviation, arts and culture and retail. we must be able to plot a journey through this crisis for them. and of course, at the root of it, we've got to be able to control this pandemic until we can beat it. and that doesn't mean the government needs to invest in that test and trace needs to invest in that test and tra ce syste m needs to invest in that test and trace system and getting it right. 0n trace system and getting it right. on that targeted support that you we re on that targeted support that you were talking about, industry—specific — give me a sense of how you would like those discussions to go, what you're hearing from your members about how they would need help what form?
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well, i think there are different a nswe rs well, i think there are different answers in different industries. in some cases, this will be about finding new business models. we seen in retail, for example, that shifting to online retail — but very often we need support to smooth that transition. we do need that investment in retraining and upscaling. dutch upscaling. and of course, we will need a very significantjob course, we will need a very significant job creation programme. we've talked regularly about how we can create a million newjobs in infrastructure and transport. we know we have a real need of public services — we've already got vacancies in the nhs and social care that need to be filled, if we're going to have resilient public services going forward. so there are lots of good ideas but we do need to
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get our heads together, and we need to act fast if we're going to ensure that we end up with millions of workers. you mentioned good ideas, i think in yourfirst workers. you mentioned good ideas, i think in your first answer you were referring to schemes happening in other countries. i was wondering what sorts of conversations you are having with your peers and other parts of europe, and other ideas you think should be adopted here? well, i have those discussions all the time. of course, we should never be too proud to learn lessons from other countries. but i think we've also got a lot of wisdom and experiences in the uk, including with the devolved nations that we could be using much more effectively to get that sense of a uk wide effort to beat the biggest threat, which is mass unemployment. frances 0'grady from the tuc, thank you very much indeed. think you.
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we have the latest figures on the level of cases in the uk. the uk reporting 6634 new cases of covid—19, compared to 6178 on wednesday. so that figure, as widely predicted, of course, creeping up. the uk also reporting 40 new deaths after positive covid—19 tests — that is compared to 37 yesterday. so those with the latest figures for the uk on covid—19. the british academy of film & television arts has announced over 120 changes to its voting, membership and campaigning processes as it published the findings of its awards review. the review began as a direct response to the lack of diversity in the 2020 film awards nominations, but was expanded to cover all aspects of bafta and its awards. the review has been led by bafta
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chair krishnendu majumdar, hejoins me now. and i'm joined by professor binna kandola, a business psychologist and co—founder of pearn kandola, as well as the author of racism at work: the danger of indifference, the invention of difference and the value of difference. hejoins me now. let mejust — let me just — forgive me, let mejust — forgive me, i let me just — forgive me, i wanted to find my notes to all this. the background on this is really fascinating when we look at the kind of set up that we've had with figures that have looked at. let it come to you first, because this is your review. give us a sense of what it was that kick started this process and where the problems like was yellow i think you mentioned it in the lack of diversity in the film awards nominations, particularly in the acting and directing categories that sparked an outrage. and we
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admittedly said we would do a long ranging review. for the last seven months, we've looked at all the issues that are barriers to diversity. it's not one single thing, it's not just diversity. it's not one single thing, it's notjust at the back to membership to vote, it's notjust the awards rules. it's about the awards campaign, it's about what's made. so there are a number of various different issues that are interlocking that are barriers to diversity. so what we've tried to do with this initial phase one, because this is just the start of a 120 plus changes which we just announced today at 5pm, we are trying to tackle the issue holistically. and it's a real cultural change for the organisation. and i feel it's a real cultural change for the organisation. and ifeel it's it's a real cultural change for the organisation. and i feel it's a step forwards to removing some of the barriers to diversity. and the key thing to say here is we are trying to level the playing field, so more diverse work and performers will get
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recognised, or the opportunity to get recognised. professor, let me bring you in here because that keyword we were hearing there is the culture of an organisation. your specialism is all about behavioural change. how easy is it to tackle something like that, where the roots may be many and varied? it depends on what you do. you need to start somewhere. and it needs to be built on data, as well, and by the sounds of it this review is comprehensive with lots of information to identify where the wrinkles and bumps, and obstacles lie to minority representation in the awards. so that's a great start. and then it'll bea that's a great start. and then it'll be a process of communication involvement of the membership, and then explained to them and explain to them again exactly why this is being done. and where their actions and policies introduced that are less ineffective, then people need to roll back on that and
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recognise... but this is a comprehensive set of changes here, and like he said, this is the first step ina and like he said, this is the first step in a continual reviewing of how it's being implemented will be critical. now tell us a bit about some of the key changes that you think will be so important? well, one of the first ones is we are introducing over 1000 new members from underrepresented groups us up and by that, i mean people of colour. we are looking at gender, people from less wealthy backgrounds, lg btq people from less wealthy backgrounds, lgbtq q people from less wealthy backgrounds, lgbtq 0 plus community, also film makers and performers. it's important that we look at all groups, because the talent is there for the opportunity isn't. and it's really important to beget those people into the membership. but we know that alone not change the
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nominations, isjust one know that alone not change the nominations, is just one step. and we've committed to that, and we've also committed it in terms of data of doing a mandatory survey of all our members. so if you want to vote in ourawards, our members. so if you want to vote in our awards, you have to engage with this diversity survey. so we will get to know better who are members are — and also for the first time ever, we will publish what those statistics are. and then also, we will set diversity targets. so we will be held publicly accountable. and that will stretch us, and i think that transparency is absolutely key. in our members are open for this, and they want this changed. and there are so many changes to the actual awards rules. and what weird trying to do, enough of it, is trying to get more people come up more members to engage in a wider variety of work, work that needs to be seen to be judged. so many people say, "i didn't see that movie, i couldn't vote for it." so what we are trying to do is level the playing field and get more
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people to watch more work. and then that work has an opportunity to be nominated. that's a really interesting point you make, and i wa nt to interesting point you make, and i want to finally pick it up with the professor, because you did an analysis of the bafta 2018 awards, the rising star award had the greatest diversity in it, and it was the public that vote on that one — is there some sort of lesson to be drawn from that, that it's not all about the bafta membership, but about the bafta membership, but about ordinary people and what they think? and i believe it's the path to counsel that announce them, as well. —— to counsel that announce them, as well. — — bafta to counsel that announce them, as well. —— bafta counsel. you have individuals who are ready to consider a wide range. the other point is the recommendation sound good, i'm not a big fan of targets, but that's another debate. but the other consideration is the lack of nominations due to the fact that minorities are not being given plum acting roles. and behind the scenes,
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of course, is another picture. there's far less representation of minorities behind the screen then there is for the nominations in the acting award. unfortunately we are out of time, i feel this is a conversation that needs more on picking. thank you both very much indeed. let's take a look at the weather now. nippy evening out there. you can really feel autumn, and if anything, it's going to feel even colder tomorrow for some of us, especially if you live in the east and the southeast of england. now, this evening, plenty of showers around, we have even had hail storms recently, and quite strong winds blowing in the southwest. the strong winds and the heavier showers will be transferring to more eastern areas over the next 12 hours or so. now, in the north, where the skies clear and the winds won't be so strong, temperatures will be close to freezing, even in glasgow and edinburgh.
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to markham and the worst of the weather... coastal gales could reach or even exceed 60 mph in costs. it's knocking to feel pleasant at all in on the lincolnshire coastline. surely norfolk, suffolk, canberra chair, london, the whole of the southeast. 0ut towards the west, it will still be breezy, but the winds won't be quite so strong, so with a bit of sunshine, belfast in birmingham, cardiff, it shouldn't feel too badly. hello this is bbc news. the headlines... the chancellor rishi sunak announces a newjob support scheme lasting 6 months from november — but admits that he can't promise that "everyone can go back to the job that they used to have". a planned rise in vat has also been cancelled and businesses will now have longer to pay back government loans. labour believes rishi sunak should have acted sooner — unions say the measure will save hundreds of thousands of jobs. after months of delay, the nhs covid—19 contact tracing app goes live in england and wales —
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anyone with a compatible smartphone is being urged to download it. the latest test and trace results show the numbers testing positive is almost 3 times higher than at the end of august. sport and for a full round up, from the bbc sport centre, here's 0lly. national league clubs have been meeting today to discuss the viability of starting the season next weekend without fans. altrincham town say they are prepared to play but only with the caveats in place that all matches can be streamed live to generate income and the government also provides a funding package here's the view from the chesterfield chief executive we need a rescue package. we need the government to step in. the national league needs around £20 million. we need that support. a
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football clu b million. we need that support. a football club is a vibrant parts, a cornerstone of its community. it's far more than just football. we have already been working with the local authorities, derbyshire county counsel, chester for counsel, on covid, how the club can help with its community projects. it's far whiter than just playing football. 0ne one of the most high profile football players in the world, ac milan forward zlatan ibrahimovic has tested positive for coronavirus. the announcement comes just hours before the italian giants were due to face fc bodo of norway in the europa league third qualifying round. ibrahimovic is the second player at the club to test positive this week. typically come if you know him, he's not short on confidence. he tweeted about the situation situation this afternoon... the road world championships are under way in italy.
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the netherlands anna van der breggen won todays women's time—trial, but the racing was overshadowed by a terrible crash as the defedning champion chloe dygert lost control on the 31 km course, the american appeared to suffer a mechanicalfailure with her bike on qa descent before hitting a barrier. her suypport vehicle was qucikly on the scene, the extent of her injuries aren't known yet but the us team said she was concious and talking one of australia's finest batsmen, dean jones, has died at the age of 59. his international career spanned ten years up until 1994 he played in 52 tests averaging over 46 but he was also credited with changing the way players approached one day cricket. he passed away after a sudden heart attack in mumbai where he'd been working as a pundit in the indian premier league. ireland's most decorated rugby union player has retired. full—back rob kearney was capped 95 times in a 12 year year
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international career, winning 4 six nations titles, two of them grand slams in 2009 and 2018. he played in 3 world cups and toured with the british and irish lions twice. the 34 year old was also 4 time european champion and 6 time pro—14 champion with leinster. he says he has "lived the dream". that's all the sport for now. don't forget sports day coming up at half past six. we hope will have the latest from the national league. what are they going to do? will they start the season next week and without fans? until then, start the season next week and without fans? untilthen, go start the season next week and without fans? until then, go to have a look at our bbc sport website. i will see you at half past six. 0llie, thanks very much indeed. now on the news cannel, it's time for bbc your questions answered. with me is our economics correspondent dharshini david,
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and mike brewer is the deputy chief executive of the resolution foundation — a research and policy organisation whick works to improve outcomes for people on low and modest incomes. it's great to have you with us. lots of questions coming in following the chancellor's announcement about the job support skin, but the fact that furlough is coming to an end. we will drive straight in. mike, let me start with you. a question from sam, who sounds like him i don't know if it's you or she, is in quite a pickle. "is there any help for person like me who has already lost the job "due to covid and company has refused to put me on furlough scheme "and also job—seeker allowance has now stopped due a time restriction?" where does that leave someone like sam? welcome i think sam is right, there really wasn't anything in today's statement to help people like that. so, today's statement was trying to support those people who are what the chancellor calls, "bible jobs." are what the chancellor calls, "biblejobs." but if are what the chancellor calls, "bible jobs." but if you have already lost herjob, you know, you're already lost herjob, you know,
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you' re really already lost herjob, you know, you're really relying on —— viable jobs. they're not is not a lot of good news for people exam today. dharshini, i'm going to put a question shoot for a moment, but for people haven't seen much of the announcements today, can you give us announcements today, can you give us a sense for what the job support scheme offers in contrast to furlough? because it is different, and as we have heard some say, it's less generous. it is less generous, rachel. it is very different to the furlough scheme. it aims broadly for the same thing, which is to support struggling businesses and those out there who need a bit of extra help to get us through this crisis, but it is less generous and it does mean that employees have to be working a minimum of 33% of their normal hours, and the government will top up hours, and the government will top up some of the monies of hours they are not working, employers are expected to top up a bit more. and the idea is notjust to support companies but also to ensure the ones that are supported are the jobs that in the government's words are viable. has a stable future, ones
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that wouldn't have been lost anyway, really tricky thing. dharshini, thank you for clearing fighting for that. let me put you this question from tracey watson. why is boris johnson asking for people to —— why is boris johnson asking for people to work from home however rishi sunak is asking people to work 33% of their hours and then the government will top up the rest? this does not work for a lot of companies so why does he not pay 60% to those still on furlough for the next six months and then review in april? suggests tracy. interesting question, tracy. ithink suggests tracy. interesting question, tracy. i think tracy, suggests tracy. interesting question, tracy. ithink tracy, they are voicing the frustration that many businesses are feeling this evening as they look at the details of the new scheme because it doesn't quite match the old furlough one, but it's not intended to, because with the government is saying is we cannot carry on with our indefinite leave. it's a very expensive scheme. some of the jobs that they are supporting are ones that perhaps wouldn't have survived. so what they are saying is they've taken a tough choice here to say that, actually commits the businesses who do have a future and can afford to take some
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people back to work, but that is zero help whatsoever, of course, if you are a business who cannot because of renewed restrictions open or indeed you are reopening in re ce nt or indeed you are reopening in recent weeks but can't be continued. so there is that frustration and it does mean perhaps that there will be those who slip through the nets, which is why i'm afraid to say that tonight people are saying that on employment does look like it will also be rising. i know that's not the answer a lot of people want to hear. no, it's good to kind of talk these things through and tell people clarify where they are in the system. mike, this from darren heard. "during the furlough period my time at work has averaged less than one "third of my contracted hours per week. "if that pattern were to continue into the period of the new scheme "would my employer have to make me redundant if they cannot provide me "with the hours required for entitlement of the new scheme?" "what other options would be available to me in order to top up my income?" so this 33% is a crucial part of the
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new scheme, basically a chance that doesn't want to carry on paying people not to work. so with that particular case, you either do need to persuade your employer to raise your hours so that you are at least a third of what they need for the crisis, or you're going to outside with the retention scheme and just have very few hours to work and be reliant on what you can and get from a benefit system. so the focus is on commit doesn't want to pay people to stay at home orjobs that don't really exist, but where jobs are you know, carrying on and some support available here. just on that point, we will move on to a question in a minute, both of you have alluded to this about a viable jobs, and that was an expression we heard earlier on. how are we defining that concept of what is a job that has legs, essentially, mike? well, ithink of what is a job that has legs, essentially, mike? well, i think the chancellor is taking a fairly short term view. you know, in the long run, when there is a vaccine, we
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probably could have an economy that functions like the one we had back in february. but the chancellor is taking the view that it is both not really afforda ble taking the view that it is both not really affordable just to pay people not to work, but it's also not good for the individuals involved. it would not be good for people to be effectively out of work for 1—2 yea rs. effectively out of work for 1—2 years. so he's accepting or he has decided that we do need to make the transition from that there are some jobs which are temporarily not viable, they might be finding a year or two, but for quite a long period, it is not viable, and for such people, it's just not worth wrapping them ina people, it's just not worth wrapping them in a cotton ball and preserving them in a cotton ball and preserving them in a cotton ball and preserving them in aspect. they probably do need to move on to other opportunities that might work. are one, let me come back to us we try to get to the detail on some of this. elizabeth billington has a scenario where she needs some clarity. "can employees on zero hours contracts claim this support? "many of my team work 40 hours per week normally but are employed "on zero hours contracts."
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that's a really good question, in fa ct, that's a really good question, in fact, i sought clarity on this one because i'm sure a lot of people will be worrying about it. what happens is that you are assured working pattern, so to speak on this idea of having to work at least a third of the time is measured across a seven—day period. and employers can cycle people on and off employment as long as there is a continuous seven days within that pattern of at least 33% time. so, there is scope for doing that, because you get the government to claim the money back. a lot of bosses aren't aware of this tonight, but that bonus scheme, you might remember in the summertime of the chancellor said once the furlough scheme ends, there's going to be a bonus for those companies that keep workers. that thousand pounds does still apply if you've been on the furlough scheme and keeping on work. it's not a huge amount for many employers, but it is a little bit of extra help. thanks, dharshini. so this 33% is so crucial in terms of
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people's hours, mike, this has come in from adam wilson who is currently on furlough, so he says i've been on furlough for a number of months. i'm still currently furloughed. i work in construction. i'm just wondering "after today's announcement will not still apply to me or would i go back "to work to do numerous hours?" he said he was not going to extend the scheme from and what he meant he was not going to pay the wages for people who aren't doing any hours at all or her employers who have not brought them back. so people in that situation as reviewer suggested, this newjob scheme is not for them. so they would have to do some hours in order to get something up to october. —— at the end of october. that's why people were warning about the impending unemployment, the bank of england will be, 100 million people will be following our furlough straight onto an employment. because this scheme is so focused on helping jobs which are effectively viable, i'm not sure this scheme is actually
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going to prevent that large rise in unemployment. so i think we do have very tough times coming through the autumn. i think chris turner who has beenin autumn. i think chris turner who has been in touch would agree with you, mike. chris says... "as an employer i can say "with some certainty this really isn't going to help a lot! "many further redundancies coming ifear! "also, how is this targeting certain sectors that need it the most? "i haven't heard of any excluded yet." so sort of a melting pot of sectors, yet we have been hearing about industries struggling worse than others. absolutely, rachel. when you look at what's on the table here, true, what happened throughout this crisis is the chancellor has had a choice between getting something out there that's fast, that's comprehensive and easily applied alongside making sure that you actually are getting the people who actually are getting the people who actually need that help, and he's opted quite often for sort of speed and a comprehensive plan over the targeted one. and when you hear those howls of outrage from airlines
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and theatres and nightclubs saying, hang onto minutes, there is nothing to help us because we are in a position where we simply can't operate because of the that we are facing at the moment. that partly comes down to cost and the chancellor saying we can't help everyone. it also partly comes down to the fact that as we were hearing mike allude to before, the government is quite keen, if we don't know how long this is going to go on for, to focus on people who are in industries to say, look, if you need to think about a newjob, perhaps you need to start thinking now. this in a way kind of nudges that process along, but not in a very come to a way at all. know, mike, if yoursummary very come to a way at all. know, mike, if your summary also may be income to both the answer you're about to give his... he says... "i have a part time job working 12.5 hours per week. "i am still furloughed and the employer is not "likely to bring staff back in the foreseeable future, "further they cannot offer any
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reduced hours of work. "how do i stand after the end of october with furlough ending "and i don't seem to fit in with the new arrangements?" i'm sorry to say that he is probably in that category who may well be facing redundancy as the job retention scheme comes to an end. his employer —— unless his employer has a complete change of mind. this highlights two issues. the first one is that access to the scheme is really governed by employers and what they choose to do. an employee can wish to be on it as much as they like, but it's up to the employer to put them on and give them the hours. secondly, you know, what we are left with, if you are not able to access a scheme is the benefits of universal credit and the generosity of that well i think become really clear to many people as we go through the autumn and claims of that naturally increase.” through the autumn and claims of that naturally increase. i feel that for a lot of people who have sent in questions, the answer has not been very encouraging. just a last word from you, mike. we did hear him say —— dharshini. that he would read —— be responding greedily to the situation, we know that there's
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going to be in winter economy plan, do you think there will be more detail, is there any chance of more help for some of those people who are falling through the cracks? never say never, rachel. i think that's one thing we've learned over the last few months. remember, we weren't meant to have this announcement at all, we were meant to have an autumn budget, and it was just a few weeks ago that people we re just a few weeks ago that people were talking about perhaps the possibility out tax rises. now it's clear that the economy is in no way ina clear that the economy is in no way in a position to tart to start talking about that. what we do noise the treasury is keeping a very close eye on how all of this works, but it's a very anxious time, more than 3 million people are still furloughed at the moment, more have lost theirjobs, the answers they wa nt lost theirjobs, the answers they want perhaps... it will take time to traina want perhaps... it will take time to train a pick some of the complexities of this. dharshini, mike, thank you very much indeed.
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you are watching bbc news. she soon at lunch is a new support scheme lasting six months until november, but can't promise that everyone will go back to the job that they used to have. —— from november. a rising deity has also been cancelled, and businesses will not have longer to pay back government loans. labour believes rishi sunak i should have acted sooner, union say the measure will save the hundreds of thousands ofjobs. with less than 100 days to go until the brexit transition period ends there is still no clear sign of a deal between the uk and the eu. even though we left officially injanuary of this year, both sides still need to work out the rules for the new relationship. these rules have to be negotiated and signed off by the eu and uk parliaments by the end of the year. our business correspondent ramzan karmali is at
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portsmouth international port. i'm here in portsmouth — a very windy portsmouth. the people who run this port say it's the best connected in the country, a lot of fruit and vegetables come through here, and, in fact, 70% of all bananas that we each come through this port. so they are very worried about what will happen after the 31st of december when the transition period ends, when the brexit negotiations come to a close as well. but on top of that, today, we've got a survey out from the british chambers of commerce that say that over 50% of businesses aren't ready for brexit. they haven't made the correct preparations. so to help us understand why, i'm joined by this woman who is from the business association. why are these businesses not ready? well, there has been a number of deadlines. this is the fourth deadline coming up, and absolutely committed has been a bigger economic crisis with covid. so many businesses have just been struggling to survive and managing that kind of crisis now. there has been a lot of disruption to supply chains, they've been massively disruptive
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during this economic period, and also workforces have changed rapidly so the people that were doing brexit planning might not know about the plans before. so every business has really got to come you know, plan for what's going to happen for january 2021, look at their plans, and work out where the weaknesses are. and is it too late for these businesses to start preparing if they haven't made any preparations? well, it's never too late. there is less than 100 days to go. you've got to prepare for the worst—case scenario of no—deal, but there is a huge of advice out there — both firm government, you know, free advice on their website about what to prepare for, what kind of changes, what kind of communication you need to have with your workforce with your supply chain, and all the other partners that enable your businesses to survive. so it's never too late. obviously, our sector is supporting firms in doing that. so, who is to blame for this, then? why are these businesses not ready? is that the government's fault that they are not ready or is it the businesses themselves that should've been prepared ? many firms have made preparations and they were done
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many, many months ago — with a different economic outlook, things have changed drastically with covid. so, as i said, supply chains have changed. so any business that had made plans is going to need to update those anyway. small businessesjust can't afford to. you know, trying to survive at this point with these economic conditions is the number one priority. we have seen surveys about that already. brexit is only number three. the stockpiles that were made earlier in the year, firmsjust don't have the cash reserves to make those stockpiles now. so all of those stockpiles have been run down in march and april, you know, head offices are saying, "don't start again, we can't afford it.". and coronavirus is the main sort of talking point in town at the moment. businesses have to focus on that but they've also have to come to the end of the scheme in october, various government schemes are ending. what do you expect the chancellor — what are you hoping for
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the government to say to business? well, the government has put a huge package to businesses in this period, and much of that has been very successful in supporting those lockdown industries with the furlough scheme. many people have returned to employment, but still many sectors are still locked down. they are not able to operate. aviation, hospitality, etc. they are going to need you know, continued and sustained level of support through this period to get there what may be a long six months. many thanks. i'm here in portsmouth all day, we will be talking notjust trade, notjust business, but also travel as well. so stay tuned. now it's time for a look at the weather with tomaz. well, you can really feel the autumn in the air now. first thing this morning in northern scotland, it was —5 celsius. we had a few hailstorms during the day and other parts of the country, and the autumn chill is with us at least for the next 2—3 days. and on top of that, it'll turn very windy tomorrow across eastern
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and southeastern areas. if you look at the north atlantic, there's a cloud out there, weather systems lining up. the whole atmosphere across the atlantic is becoming alive and an autumnal picture. so, let's see what's happening then through the course of this evening and overnight. showers scattered across england and wales — not too many of them around scotland and northern ireland. in fact, here, the winds will also be light with clear skies, meaning temperatures in glasgow and edinburgh will be close to freezing early on friday morning, and no doubt below freezing in the countryside. so here's the weather map for friday, then, and there's a low pressure in the southern portion of the north sea. so that means that these areas here will get the worst of the weather. gale force winds are expected from the northeast of england, along the north sea coast, down into east anglia and the southeast, as well. gusts around coasts possibly up to 60 mph, 40 orso inland, and on top of that, we've got showers, temperatures only 12
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celsius — it's going to feel cold. further towards the west, still windy, but not quite so windy. so we're thinking in belfast, liverpool and cardiff, it shouldn't feel too bad at all. now here's saturday, and we're in sort of a window of opportunity — a weak high pressure is building across the uk, from the north this time. so this is where the best of the weather will be, certainly a fair bit of sunshine around, but notice still that strong wind blowing off the north sea, so hull and norwich are in for showers and another cold day on saturday — it'll feel warmer in places like cardiff and also plymouth. saturday evening, you can see that wind continuing, and those showers in east anglia. now the temperatures during the course of the weekend will be nippy. we're talking about a frost in scotland, because the winds will be lightest here. but where we've got those winds blowing off the north sea, temperatures will probably hover around nine celsius. now over the weekend isn't looking too bad. the winds are light, there'll be some sunshine around,
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but the indications are that cloud, wind and rain will increase next week eventually. bye— bye.
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adapting to the new normal. the chancellor unveils his plans to try to protect jobs and the economy over the next six months. rishi sunak says the government will top up the pay of workers who've been forced to cut their hours with the focus on viable jobs. i cannot save everyjob — no chancellor could. but what we can and must do is deal with the real problems businesses and employees are facing now. the newjob support scheme that will replace furlough has been welcomed by many businesses, but there are still deep fears for the future. being able to work one third of the time and being supported for the other two thirds of the time makes a massive impact
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for our business. we've got to get through this next six months and the measures

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