tv Outside Source BBC News September 24, 2020 7:00pm-8:01pm BST
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hello, i'm ros atkins, this is outside source. republicans are pushing back after donald trump refused to admit he would leave office peacefully. vote him out! vote him out! donald trump is accused of acting like a desperate, would be dictator, and they were chants of vote him out outside... it says hilltop up the pay of workers who've lost ours because of coronavirus. and there is
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a very fierce race to develop the first vaccine for covid—19. we will look at why some countries are rivalling each other to buy up supplies. it's a perhaps a measure of the point america has reached that today, senior republicans have been assuring everyone that donald trump will allow a smooth transition of power if he loses in november. they've had to do that because of this. will you commit here today for a peaceful transferral of power after the election? well, we'll have to see what happens. you know that. i've been complaining very strongly about the ballots, and the ballots are disaster, and... but people are rioting — do you commit to making sure that there's a peaceful transferral power? get rid of the ballots, and you'll have a great transfer. you'll have a very peaceful — there won't be a transfer, frankly,
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there will be a continuation. mr trump's talking about postal ballots. he often alleges there are open to widespread fraud, when there's no evidence that that's true. well, here's the senate majority leader mitch mcconnell tweeting... he made no comment on the fact he's having to point this out. we've heard something from the minority leader of the republicans, kevin mccarthy. he managed to wrap it into criticism of the democrats. that's a concern i have right now, it is our concern and safety in the streets. there will be a smooth transition, and i believe president trump will have a very good inaugural and will reunite this nation, and of radicalising this nation. the white house press secretary has just held her latest briefing where inevitably she was
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askedif briefing where inevitably she was asked if donald trump would still accept the election results. this was her response. the president will acce pt was her response. the president will accept the results of a free and fair election. he will accept the will of the american people suffering so if you lose is and it's free and fair, he will except at? i've answered your answer, he will acce pt i've answered your answer, he will accept the results of a freer and fair election. but mr trump repeatedly says it won't be free and fair. and mr trump's presidential rivaljoe biden... the peaceful transfer of power between political opponents is talked about as one of the hallmarks of american democracy, and it's been a given for more than 200 years. here's leslie vinjamuri from the chatham house think tank. this really is as basic as it gets to any democracy — certainly to us democracy — that the one thing that must be guaranteed is respect for the arrangements that are put in place over the history of the united states to guarantee
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a peaceful transition of power. and the fact that the president would so clearly not support that when asked is very distressing. and i think the real question now is, first of all, does it come to that? and secondly, if it does, not only what the president would do, but what would his party do? what would the people do? all good questions. and there should be no surprise that we're asking them. this was donald trump before the last election. i'm not looking at anything now. i'll look at it at the time. what i've seen, what i've seen is so bad. she should never have been allowed to run for the presidency based on what she did with the e—mails and so many other things. are you saying you're not prepared now to... what i'm saying is that i will tell you at the time. i'll keep you in suspense. so here he refused to state he
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accept the result. after he'd won the election, donald trump turned to voter fraud. here's one tweet claiming that... the claim is that fraudulent ballots cast by undocumented immigrants cast gave hillary clinton more votes than him. that's not true. hillary clinton won by almost three million votes. a voting integrity commission found no evidence to support the claims. that appears to have no impact on what mr trump says. he repeatedly make false claims about postal voting — and that connects with the issue of respecting the result. here's one example, from and interview with chris wallace from fox news injuly. can you give a direct answer, you will accept the election? i have to see! look, you — i have to see. i'm notjust going to say "yes" — and i didn't last time, either. so this is an american president refusing to say he'll respect an election result based on concern about fraud that isn't happening. now, no doubt, postal voting is a bigger feature of this election — covid—i9 has made sure of that. but it varies state to state. this map shows the different policies — the states in purple
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will now automatically send all voters postal ballots. the states in orange allow voters to cast their ballot by mail on request. in the remaining states, you need to have a valid reason, such as being away from the state where you are registered. so there's nothing new about this, we've been voting by mail since the civil war, frankly. and many state administrators are well—versed in making sure it happens smoothly. other states are used to a system where there is a much smaller percentage of vote by mail, but many states this year have ramped up their efforts in light of covid—i9, a lot of people don't feel safe going into the polling place. and there have been numerous nationwide and state—level studies of postal voting over the years — none have found widespread fraud in postal voting. despite this, donald trump has got to the point where he's
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telling americans this. the only way they can take this election away from us is if this is a rigged election. and we're going to win this election. there's no evidence it's rigged. now the reporter asking the question at yesterday's press conference was brian karem. he's the white house correspondent for playboy. here's tweeted. .. that's one response — here's another. lawrence douglas is a law professor who's written a book about what happens if trump refuses to go. i think the danger is that trump could have the lead on november 3rd — and i say that because of course, we know that tens of millions of americans will be voting by mail—in ballot, voting by mail—in ballot, and those mail—in ballots will probably break heavily in biden‘s favour. and we've already seen that the president has engaged in the preemptive strike on the integrity of
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those mail—in ballots. so i think the real danger is that he will try to leverage whatever the lead he has on november 3rd into a claim that he's been reelected, and that he will then subsequently insist that all the mail—in ballots that breakforjoe biden need to be disqualified as a result, as a result of being contaminated by fraud. so lots of people are exploring what might happen if the result is tight. this article from the financial times explores what could happen. its core conclusion is that any attempt to dispute the election would need the support of the republican party at a federal and state level. and some senior republicans are saying they will ensure a transfer of power happens. in 2016, some senior republicans also said a supreme court nominee should not be selected in an election year — so their positions can evolve. one professor at ohio state university told the ft...
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now we've been here before. in 2000, the supreme court ruled against a recount of votes in florida — and the democratic candidate al gore conceded deafeat to george w bush, who became president. and that's where the recent death of the supreme courtjustice ruth bader—ginsberg is so important. republicans look likely to able to confirm her replacement before the election — that's a huge moment for them in the long—term — but mr trump understands the relevance in the short—term. republican—appointed justices outnumber democrat—appointed ones already on the court, that's set to be pushed even further in the republican's favour now. here's what mr trump has said about that earlier this week. i think it's very important. i think this will end up in the supreme court. and i think it's very important that we have nine justices. and i think the system's going to go very quickly. and if you want a measure of how tense things are getting — look at this from outside
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the supreme court when mr trump went pay his respects to ruth bader ginsberg. chanting: vote him out, vote him out! vote him out, vote him out! that the crowd in front of the court chanting "vote him out." julia manchester is from the hill newspaper in washington. where do we start with this? donald trump has said something similar before, so we should be looking at how the republicans are reacting, rather than mr trump, because he's been completely consistent. yes, he's been completely consistent. yet we see the white house today is essentially saying that mr trump would accept the results of a fair election. so that's not exactly what he said yesterday, but this morning we heard a number of republicans, high—ranking republicans on capitol hill, including mitch mcconnell, liz cheney, the chair of the house gop caucus, essentially saying that we
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need to accept the results of the election, whatever they may be, to ensure a peaceful transition of power. so this is another incident during the trump administration when he makes a very controversial remarks, then he leaves the republicans up and capitol hill scrambling to play clean—up. republicans up and capitol hill scrambling to play clean-up. there two things here. there's whether he would accept the transition of power, but whether he does or not, the constant messaging that america's democracy is flawed and fraudulent will have an impact anyway, isn't it? absolutely, we've seen anyway, isn't it? absolutely, we've seen mrtrump anyway, isn't it? absolutely, we've seen mr trump pushes narrative, especially with coronavirus where people are voting by mail mostly for its impressive how mr trump has pushed this mail in balloting fraud allegation. he says it's ok for voters to vote by mail in states like florida and arizona, swing states that may have had a republican lean in recent years. he's been very tough on blue states,
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like new york, where they are experimenting with more vote by mail. so mrtrump experimenting with more vote by mail. so mr trump is definitely trying to see where this benefits him. and he himself and members of his ministration have voted by mail. so this is something that he's continuing to push, but only to his advantage. thank you very much, julia manchester. the uk has announced further measures to manage covid—i9 and its impact. first chancellor, rishi sunak, announced a new plan designed to protect millions ofjobs over the winter. the government will replace its furlough scheme, which will run out in october, with a newjob support scheme, that helps workers who have not been able to return to work full time. for employees working a minimum of 33% of their normal hours, the government will offer a subsidy so they get three quarters of their usual salary for six months — but, and it's a big but — the government will only support workers in what are deemed viable jobs.
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the government will cover one third of lost pay, with employers paying the remainder support will be targeted at firms needing help the most. that is businesses facing lower demand overwinter due to covid—i9. mr sunak has announced a "pay as you grow" scheme to allow firms to repay bounce back loans over a period of up to ten years. and the chancellor said he would keep vat at 5% for hospitality and tourism until 31 march, 2021. which jobs will be deemed viable is still not clear. our political editor laura kuenssberg asked chancellor sunak how that assessment is being made. you have admitted that many people are very worried at the moment. how manyjobs do you think this scheme can save, with all the measures you've outlined? and you say you only want to help supportjobs that are viable — can you outline which jobs you believe will no longer be viable because of the pandemic?
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thanks, laura. it's impossible for me to predict, given the uncertainty, the exact shape of the labour market. as i said, i can't protect every single business or job. but there are also concerns that the plan doesn't do enough to protectjobs. here's alex forsyth. i think there will still be questions about how many jobs will still be lost as a consequence of this. of course, we are in a global pandemic which has had economic consequences across the world, so there is a sense now that the government is pulling back some of the support it put in in the initial stages because the chancellor was saying that the virus is here to stay for some time and the government needs to find a way to live with it sustainably. it couldn't quite simply maintain the same level of support. but the question is, is what he's done is enough to keep the economy ticking over sufficiently and protect enough people's jobs? here's our global trade correspondent, dharshini david. there's a lot of facts and figures to digest. what would you pull out
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is the most significant aspects of what the chancellor said today? well, as we've been hearing, this is a scheme — it's a very different one that's being replaced. it's a lot less generous, and that means there will be morejob less generous, and that means there will be more job losses. less generous, and that means there will be morejob losses. and ultimately, that's not accidental because if you look at what the government is saying here, it comes back to this issue of viable jobs. and what is a viable job? a back to this issue of viable jobs. and what is a viablejob? ajob back to this issue of viable jobs. and what is a viable job? a job that a company can and will report to spend the money on subsidizing over the coming months. it is simple and brutal, but frankly what the government is saying is they simply can't afford to carry on, they've already spent over £200 billion, or thereabouts that's been pledged to hike the economy through the crisis. they can't spend the same rate endlessly. but ideologically a conservative government is thinking about, how do we incentivize people
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if the economy will change or industries will fall by the wayside? how do we nudge people in the direction of thinking about what their next move should be, rather than hanging on tojobs their next move should be, rather than hanging on to jobs which won't be sustainable? after all, this is taxpayer's money we're talking about. so the chancellor said himself today, really tough choices. but this is a scheme that's placing -- if but this is a scheme that's placing —— if you just said this was the initial scheme, people would say this was a huge departure from what we've seen before. but they are disappointed companies out there tonight, and people who are worried that this doesn't solve the conundrum of over 3 million people who are still on furlough, and many more who've already lost theirjob. just as the health experts tried to predict what happens with a number of cases of this virus, rishi sunak and his colleagues will have projections about what they think will happen to the economy. do they have any idea when the worst moment might be? well, we've seen ourselves
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not just might be? well, we've seen ourselves notjust in the uk, but around the globe that it's a constant lee changing picture when it comes to the virus and the degree of the outbreak, and managing that, and the restrictions that must be put in place. so if you'd asked that question a couple months ago, looking at the bank of england and others, they were saying that recovery was under way but it would ta ke recovery was under way but it would take some time, may i—2 recovery was under way but it would take some time, may 1—2 years before we got back to fully recover the ground lost during the pandemic. but now, with further restriction and further threats of job now, with further restriction and further threats ofjob losses, this is where we've had this emergency packet. of this announcement was hastily pulled together. and what we do know as a result of this is perhaps that impact, that impact on the economy may take even longer. but the number crunchers are working on it, and the best the treasury can tell us as we will hear more in november. thank you very much indeed. the economic support will be needed because restrictions to control the spread of covid—i9 are expected
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to continue through the winter. the latest government figures show another rise in new cases in the last 2a hours with 6,634 new coronavirus infections recorded across the uk — it is the highest daily figure every recorded. but remember, at the peak with far fewer tests, it's estimated there were around 100,000 new cases a day. in the past 2a hours, a0 deaths have reported of people who died within 28 days of a positive covid—19 test, taking the total number, across the uk, to 111,902. all the more need, then, for a coronavirus contact—tracing app, which after delays and setbacks, was been released across england and wales on thursday. the nhs covid—19 app can now be downloaded on smartphones, and will instruct users to self—isolate if it detects they were near someone who has the virus. rory cellanjones has been checking it out. this is how it works. the app uses a bluetooth connection,
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and if you come into close contact with others who have downloaded it, that will be recorded on your phone. should you report a positive test through your phone, those people who've been in close contact with you will be sent an alert, telling them to self—isolate. an earlier version of the app trialled on the isle of wight was criticised for collecting too much data. it was cancelled it, and the new model relies on a privacy—conscious system developed by apple and google. now if you do have significant contact with someone who later reports a positive test result, then you'll get a notification telling you you must go into isolation. but the very private nature of the app means the government won't know who you are and whether you received that alert — so it's all a matter of trust, whether you obey that warning. new rules in scotland mean that university students will be breaking the law if they leave their accommodation and return home to stay with theirfamilies. it's because scotland has
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banned indoor visits between separate households. in a tweet, scotland's national clinical director confirmed this... it follows a significant outbreak at the univeristy of glasgow. 124 students have tested positive for coronavirus and more than 600 students have had to self—isolate. the university said they expect the number of students infected to be much higher. there are also serious concerns about outbreaks at several other universities in scotland. they include abertay in dundee, the university of aberdeen, and the university of st andrews. almost 1,000 university students are self—isolating in scotland. here's one of them. let's hear from a glasgow university student. being inside for two weeks after moving to this flat — i've only been here a week, and knowing these people for a week and having to stay
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with them for two weeks, unable to leave the place is quite challenging. our scotland correspondent lorna gordon is in scotland. the largest outbreak is here in glasgow. 124 students have tested positive and more than 600 are self—isolating. it's believed that's all traceable back to events around freshers week, a couple of big house parties, flat parties where things got out of hand, where the social distancing wasn't contained and where too many people were mixing. there are measures in addition to the self isolating that are now being put in place. there's a mobile testing unit at halls of residents in glasgow, the two halls of residence. there's extra support from the university on the ground there, they say they'll be providing food and assistance to the students who need it. but this is the latest development — it seems obvious, frankly, because the regulations in scotland are changing, they are banning people from visiting in each other's homes in an attempt to keep the levels of coronavirus down.
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but this is one of those times where, you know, people are only fully starting to understand the implications of that, when they realised that there kids might be at university, they might want them to self—isolate at home, and theyjust can't do that. the problem isn't only confined to universities in scotland — it's a concern across the uk. in the north of england for instance, almost 90 students and staff have tested positive at the university of liverpool. bear in mind students have barely begun their studies at the start of the new academic year. the uk's scientific advisory group for emergencies known as sage is already urging the government to take action over christmas — when millions of students are expected to move around the country to travel home — the largest internal migration inside the uk. it said there is "significant risk that universities could amplify transmission of the coronavirus and even seed the infection nationwide". the bbc asked the uk's health secretary whether he'd consider banning students in england from going home at christmas.
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i don't rule out anything. and, if you've had the last nine months that i've had, you'd understand why. we don't rule out anything. it is not something that i'd want to do. but what's important is that we, of course, keep people safe and keep the virus under control. much more information on the bbc news website. remember yesterday when the european union announced its new approach to migration — there's was a lot fanfare, talk of major breakthrough. well, a group of eastern european countries have already rejected it, saying it's not tough enough. hungary's prime minister, viktor orban, said the mandatory solidarity mechanism as it's being called was not a breakthrough. along with leaders of poland and the czech republic, mr orban met with the woman who launched the whole thing — eu commission president ursula von der leyen. the basic approach is still unchanged, because they would like to manage the migration and not
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to stop the migrants. that's two different kinds of approach. they're still on that bank, saying how to manage the migration. the hungarian position stops the migrants. that's the two different things. here's gavin lee in brussels. 24 hours ago, part of the whole pitch for the eu was that these countries specifically, that for five years have had problems with the whole migration agreement, in the case of hungary and poland, and also with the czech republic and notjust said no but they've refused to take in migrants. poland and hungary have been taken to the european court of human rights on this issue, as well. so, part of the sell yesterday, 24 hours ago, was to say you will get in future... every country will get 10,000 euros per migrant that they take in. and if you say no, rather than face a fine in future, you can sponsor, you can take over the return of that asylum seeker, if they are a failed asylum seeker, to the country of origin.
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you liaise with that government and the migrant would stay in greece or in italy, the first line when they arrive. what happened this morning, so this was ursula von der leyen, the commission president, meeting with the leaders of poland, the czech republic and of hungary, the mood music didn't go well. the rough ground was already there because andrej babis, the czech prime minister, said that i have a big problem with this, he said at first it seems like the commission still hasn't understood the basic principle, he said, to stop illegal migration you have to stop migrants illegally entering europe and he said this is a no for us. then we heard from viktor orban, the hungarian prime minister, bear in mind viktor orban took on a third term on an anti—immigration platform, that's largely his base of supporters he said that, and some of the tone was better, but for him he said hungary's plan is there will be hotspots, there will be reception centres outside of europe, that's the only way, he said, they could agree to it. he said you cannot have migrants coming on to european soil. all we heard from ursula von der
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leyen in the last half an hour on twitter was to say that the talks went well. i'll see you in a couple minutes. well, you can really feel the autumn in the air now. first thing this morning in northern scotland, it was —5 celsius. we had a few hailstorms during the day and other parts of the country, and the autumn chill is with us at least for the next 2—3 days. and on top of that, it'll turn very windy tomorrow across eastern and southeastern areas. if you look at the north atlantic, there's a cloud out there, weather systems lining up. the whole atmosphere across the atlantic is becoming alive and an autumnal picture. so, let's see what's happening then through the course of this evening and overnight. showers scattered across england and wales — not too many of them around scotland and northern ireland. in fact, here, the winds will also be light with clear skies,
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meaning temperatures in glasgow and edinburgh will be close to freezing early on friday morning, and no doubt below freezing in the countryside. so here's the weather map for friday, then, and there's a low pressure in the southern portion of the north sea. so that means that these areas here will get the worst of the weather. gale force winds are expected from the northeast of england, along the north sea coast, down into east anglia and the southeast, as well. gusts around coasts possibly up to 60 mph, 40 orso inland, and on top of that, we've got showers, temperatures only 12 celsius — it's going to feel cold. further towards the west, still windy, but not quite so windy. so we're thinking in belfast, liverpool and cardiff, it shouldn't feel too bad at all. now here's saturday, and we're in sort of a window of opportunity — a weak high pressure is building across the uk, from the north this time. so this is where the best of the weather will be, certainly a fair bit of sunshine around, but notice still that strong wind blowing off the north sea, so hull and norwich are in for showers and another cold day on saturday — it'll feel warmer in places
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like cardiff and also plymouth. saturday evening, you can see that wind continuing, and those showers in east anglia. now the temperatures during the course of the weekend will be nippy. we're talking about a frost in scotland, because the winds will be lightest here. but where we've got those winds blowing off the north sea, temperatures will probably hover around nine celsius. now over the weekend isn't looking too bad. the winds are light, there'll be some sunshine around, but the indications are that clouds, wind and rain will increase next week eventually. bye— bye.
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thanks forjoining me on outside source. donald trump says he would have to see if you would be willing to a cce pt have to see if you would be willing to accept an election defeat. the white house has sought to clarify the position. the president will except the result of a free and fair election. he will except the will of the american people. vote him out! told him out! president's critics say fairness is in being decided. this is vote him out being chanted outside the supreme court. also in the us, manage charge for shooting and injuring two policeman during protests of the killing of breanna taylor. lots of coronavirus vaccines are being developed at the moment, in some countries are competing to
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get their hands on those which are made. we will look at vaccine nationalism and what that's all about. —— breonna taylor. and where the birds really singing louder during lockdown? i think i assumed they were. lots of people have. turns out research says they were actually being quieter. we will get that explain for us. let's turn back to louisville now and the fall—out from the decision to not charge any officers in relation to the killing of breonna taylor. this 26—year—old has been charged with wanton endangerment and the assault of a police officer during wednesday night's protests. he's accused of shooting two police officers. as you can see hundreds of people were out in the streets, angry at the decision not to prosecute the policemen who killed breonna taylor. louisville police say they've arrested 130 people.
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marvis herring, a reporterfor cbs‘ wlky news is in louisville, kentucky has been outside the police station where some of the protesters were held. well, we have been in out here since 4am this morning and we have been able to see some of the protesters you can see behind me that's the jail who are released, coming right over to jefferson square jail who are released, coming right over tojefferson square parkjust a few feet away to pay respects again to breonna taylor, some of them crying and even just screaming out saying that justice crying and even just screaming out saying thatjustice was just not serve not only in this case but also to hear that the only charges pertaining to one police officer and only involving those charges that bullets that hit the neighbour's apartment. so the mood has been sombre comments but emotional, it's been somewhat quieter out here, but we've also started to see the kentucky national guard really start to assemble as well. now, a reminder of what happened.
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breonna taylor was a 26—year—old emergency medical technician. in march, she was shot eight times after police entered her home in the middle of the night under what's called a "no knock" warrant. her boyfriend is a licenced gun owner, and he exchanged fire with the officers thinking they were burglars. in fact they were on a drug raid and were looking for a suspect who didn't live at the house. no drugs were found at the property. subsequently, one of the officers was fired and two others were placed on leave. none were charged with any crimes. it's clear the protests over what happened to ms taylor and the decision not to charge the officers directly with her death will continue. today the us democratic presidential candidatejoe biden has urged americans to protest peacefully. here's what he told reporters in charlotte, north carolina. they should be peaceful. do not sully her memory or her mothers by engaging in any violence. it's totally inappropriate for that to happen. she wouldn't want it, nor what her mother. so i hope they do that. people aren'tjust protesting about the breonna taylor case. us law enforcement officers
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kill about 1,000 people a year across the us. here are some stats on how those cases are dealt with. since the beginning of 2005, 121 officers have been arrested on charges of murder or manslaughter in on—duty killings of the 95 officers whose cases have concluded, 44 were convicted, but often of a lesser charge. here's more from the professor who compiled that data. often times, prosecutors simply don't think that they can cut obtain a conviction so they are not willing to bring charges in these cases and that's very troubling to me because the role of the prosecutor is to seek justice and the role of the prosecutor is to seekjustice and to do justice, often times they really sort of skirt around that by taking the easy road out and not letting the matters be resolved in court. dr stinson says he was reviewing his research earlier today and noticed that seven officers had been charged with killing black women since 2005. he says six of those seven women were actually killed in their own homes. here he is again. of something i need to go back and
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ta ke of something i need to go back and take a closer look at, but something that was in my data that i didn't even realise, but the fact that we are seeing even realise, but the fact that we are seeing cases even realise, but the fact that we are seeing cases where black women are seeing cases where black women are being killed by police in their own homes is very troubling to me. larry madowo has been covering the story and interviewed ms taylor's family a few weeks ago. hejoins me now from washington. larry, how do you assess the reaction to the news yesterday in terms of the scale of the outrage and how it feeds into the broader black lives matter momentum in america at the moment. the latest angerand america at the moment. the latest anger and disappointment regarding the decision by the grand jury in the decision by the grand jury in the reveal —— louisville, kentucky, a lot of protesters said that as a continuing side of the devaluation of black bodies and especially of black women in the fact that they say, the neighbours, the white neighbours of breanna taylor and the buildings got more justice than breanna taylor did that the officer was not charged with killing breanna taylor, but — — was not charged with killing breanna taylor, but —— breonna taylor. but forward endangering the lives of the people around her, and infected
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kentucky attorney—general said that the use of force wasjustified, that the use of force wasjustified, that the two other officers used self—defense, so the people in new york and in la, here in washington from around the nation still file justice was not served in this case and they will be on the streets until breonna taylor will become quite famous because her name has been on the cover of magazines, slight breeze have been talking about her, and the fact that it's still a name that they have to say at protests speaks to how america treats its black community. with specific reference to her case, is this the end of the road in terms of whether these officers could face further charges? there is one other alternative here, the fbi's civil rights division is also investigating this case to see if breonna taylor's civil rights were violated in this case. and they might prefer charges against the officers, that's the final alternative here, because locally, the louisville metro police department, the prosecutor recused himself, that's how it ended up in ag's hanscom and that's a grand jury
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decision. as a joke and legal service circles in america that a grandjury service circles in america that a grand jury could indict a hand sandwich. so it's based on how much evidences presented, and that they didn't see all the evidence, and even the kentucky attorney—general has called for the evidence and the files to be released even though these things are usually secrets, and that might not happen speaks to the disaffection with the outcome there. a very interesting. larry, thanks for helping us to that story throughout the week. larry live with us throughout the week. larry live with us from washington. now, let's turn to the work of australian researchers who say china has now built nearly 400 cams for the detention of muslim people. that's much higher than previous estimates, the strategic policy institute has said they've identified 380 detention centres established from of a centres range from re—education camps to fortified prisons. more than 60 of the sites showed signs of new construction within the past year and 14 appeared
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to still be under construction. china, as i'm sure you know, has faced global criticism over its persecution of these muslims. they area persecution of these muslims. they are a step in europe has already posed sanctions on individuals and companies that do business here. the researcher who is behind all that said he spent years compiling this data. here he is on the process. it was a lot of... one method is looking at night—time imagery, so a lot of these sort of appeared out of the desert and outs of the agricultural lands in 2017. if we look at what was bright at night in 2016 versus now, a good deal of what's popped up where camps. getting an idea of what these camps look like was based on primary source reporting, construction tenders and victim testimony, but let assertive really hone our eyes
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into what these camps look like so that we can know what we are looking for throughout the rest of that country. the chinese government has to miss these findings. it describes the facilities as vocational training centres used to counter extremism. here is a form and minute —— foreign ministry spokesperson. translation: so—called detention camps have never existed in this country. we have repeatedly responded to various china related reports fabricated by the australian strategic policy institute. we hope and believe that all parties can distinguish right from wrong and jointly resist such absurd remarks made by anti—china organisations. china is commencing a talk ina organisations. china is commencing a talk in a sensitive about research from this think tank. last year, use similar techniques, from this think tank. last year, use similartechniques, open from this think tank. last year, use similar techniques, open source intelligence to verify this drone footage, post anonymously to youtube that shows hundreds of blindfolded and shackled men who appear to be muslim and other minorities at a
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train station. nathan russo used clues in the footage, including landmarks and the position of the son to work out when it was filmed and son to work out when it was filmed a nd exa ctly son to work out when it was filmed and exactly where here is more from him on his latest findings. this is a very permanent and very long—standing infrastructure of detention. this detention regime isn't just a passing detention. this detention regime isn'tjust a passing fad, rather than building up hundreds of facilities for the continued detention of other non—nationalities in that area. so far, visio, year, any new accounts, the second—largest city there has opened this campus about 60 acres, and surrounding the whole thing is a 14 metre wall with ten metre watch tires on the top of them. each residential building is entirely surrounded by barbed wire fencing and there is no way that that's what anyone would describe as a school. it looks a lot more like a prison. it functions a lot more like
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a prison. i hope that this shows the fa ct a prison. i hope that this shows the fact that this regime or detention is one of the strongest ones in the world. if we are going to put that into comparison, there is one detention facility since 2017 for every 37,000 residents of chinjane. if you are to put that ratio into new york city, that would be as if there were 55,000 prisons in new york city just for there were 55,000 prisons in new york cityjust for black americans in the last three years. the scale of this detention is staggering and hopefully this report will go in to quantify that and show the scale and continuing nature of it in a way that forces the rest of the world to act. now, a dispute between south korea and north korea. south korea has accused north korea of a crime against humanity for allegedly shooting dead an official from the south who was trying to defect, and then burning his body. seoul said the man, who worked for the fisheries department, disappeared from a patrol boat near the border. here's south korea's presidential spokesperson on it.
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translation: this is a shocking instance and is reg retta ble. this is a shocking instance and is regrettable. it's unpardonable for any reason. the bbc‘s laura bicker is in seoul. well, it seems that this fisheries officer, 47 euros man from a father officer, 47 euros man from a father of two, disappeared from his boat which was about ten km, six miles from the north korean border. now, after he disappeared, it was reported missing. south koreans say he was, they did search for him, however, it turns out he was found bya however, it turns out he was found by a north korean patrol boat, drifting in their waters. by a north korean patrol boat, drifting in theirwaters. now, by a north korean patrol boat, drifting in their waters. now, what we have pieced together certainly from various briefings today, it is a brutal killing where he was left in the water for six hours and questioned by north korean officers. it does seem that a defence official here say that in order came from higherup. he here say that in order came from higher up. he was shot in the water, doused in oil and set on fire. now,
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there is something that needs to be explained, because the north korean troops are said to have been wearing masks. this has all happened since july- masks. this has all happened since july— where a number of officials right along the border in north korea have been carrying out what is known as a shoot to kill policy. that we believe is to keep coronavirus outs that we believe is to keep coronavirus outs of this secretive state. this is a very detailed account of what's gone on in these waters, but we don't understand where this intelligence is coming from because all communication between the two sites was cut in june. the hotline was cut, and as you might remember, this injured korean office that was set up to help both sites comedic eight was blown up by north korea. but it does seem blown up by north korea. but it does seem that they do have intelligence that this official was shot and then cremated in the water. that's a shocking story. thank you to laura for that update. now come in a few minutes, we will reflect on one of the better aspects of lockdown.
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we'll find out whether birds really were singing louder during lockdown — or were our ears deceiving us. today marks 45 years since the first britons conquered the treacherous south face of everest. doug scott was the first of them to stand on the summit, along with his team—mate dougal haston. fiona trott has been to carrock fell in the lake district, where doug used to train for all his expeditions. congratulations to every single one of us, well done. joy but also relief. he led the 1975 everest expedition, hours before, he thought it might be a rescue mission. but doug scott and dougal heston had made it. they wear the first to ascend the southwest face and reach the summit of everest. today, it sets a different challenge. some of these climbers
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wa nt to want to match its height, it will take several trips. among them, doug scott's son. here we are. this is the high plains, number one, done. i'mjust done. i'm just wondering where... make back at base, just as he did 45 yea rs back at base, just as he did 45 years ago, sir chris keeps a watchful eye. they are being captured, basically, by the concept and the achievements of what we did and what doug particularly dead. i think in a way, to actually be able to celebrate that's climb and celebrate what he achieved then is particularly meaningful. i met people around the world have been marking this everest anniversary, climbing there to raise money for the charity doug scott set up. it helps the nepalese community who supported the expedition. doug himself took part, he's recently been diagnosed with cancer and is at home. here is where doug scott use
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to train. today's climb has been a fitting tribute to his achievement 45 years ago. this is outside source live from the bbc newsroom. our lead story is... senior us republicans have offered reassurance that there will be a peaceful transition of power if donald trump loses november's presidential election. every week, we make a report for the bbc news website that looks back at one of the issues we've covered all week on outside source. and this week, we take our lead from comments at the un's general assembly. the search for a covid—19 vaccine is at full tilt. there are 240 vaccines in early development, 40 in clinical trials, nine in final stage testing — and none are ready yet, none are certain to work. and the search has
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created a new challenge. vaccine nationalism will the pandemic coming out short. vaccine nationalism puts lives at risk, only vaccine cooperation saves lives. but how great is the threat of vaccine nationalism? put simply, vaccine nationalism is when a country prioritises its access to a vaccine above everyone else getting it. and the un has warned of the harm it can do. such vaccine nationalism is not only unfair, it is self—defeating. none of us are safe. the who adds an economic argument to that — saying if some countries go without a vaccine, the virus then won't be under control globally and so the global economy can't properly open up. and central to efforts to counter vaccine nationalsm is something called covax. it's a global plan to allocate vaccines. 172 countries are signed up.
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and it guarantees all of them access to a range of vaccines if and when they're ready. for the who, covax supports its ambition to "vaccinate some people in all countries, rather than all people in some countries". and with germany, japan, the uk, norway and the eu among those to sign up — this is a significant initiative — the very opposite of vaccine nationalism. but there are some major absentees, most notably america, which is going it alone. we will distribute a vaccine, we will defeat the virus. we will end the pandemic. no surprise there. donald trump's presidency is proudly "america first". back in march, angela merkel confirmed this die welt report that the us has tried and failed to buy all options on a german vaccine. and if that's the us, others are going their own way too. russia has cleared a vaccine for use despite who concerns it's not been adequately trialled. the uk hasjoined covax, but has also signed deals direct with vaccine producers australia has done the same.
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then there's china's vaccine work — and this promise. these vaccines will be made of global public good and will be provided to other developing countries on our priority basis. ok, but look at this report in the state—owned global times. it tells us china is likely to join covax, but that "china is probably still negotiating a thorough plan to ensure a balanced vaccine supply for chinese citizens and china's neighbours". now most of the world's wealthiest countries would deny they are vaccine nationalists. but whether, in reality, you can at once protect your own vaccine supplies and support a fair distribution to all countries looks, well, difficult. and what we're seeing here are the limits of multilateralism. donald trump may say it loudest, but all leaders put their country first. and any global response is shaped by an inevitable tension between international bodies which, by their nature, promote greater co—operation — and national leaders with an array of domestic concerns.
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we see this tension with climate change, with migrants in europe — and we're seeing it with covid—19. the case against vaccine nationalism is that the consequences won'tjust be bad for the world, they'll be bad for the countries which pursue it. to lesser or greater extents, some of them still need persuading. you can see more of this on bbc‘s website, bbc —— on the bbc‘s website. one of hong kong's best—known pro—democracy campaigners has been arrested. joshua wong is accused of illegal assembly in connection with protests last year — and of violating a law against wearing a face mask at demonstrations. he's now been released on bail — and spoke to the bbc. the charges that i experienced is participating in unauthorised assembly and also about violating the anti—mask law. but those laws arejust the anti—mask law. but those laws are just used to suppress human rights activists, which is really insane because this is the third court case i need to face already
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since last summer. lots of protesters are being exhausted by the authorities using such cracked on methods, they wish to silence our voice, but they can't defeat us. it makes us even stronger with determination. joshua wong's been tweeting about this. he says his arrest connects to a demonstration in october last year. and says his case will be heard next week on 30th september. he says he could face up to five years in prison for the unauthorized assembly, and a year for not wearing a mask, and he called the arrest "a notorious abuse to the criminaljustice system." we will update you on that situation as and when we get those updates. cities across the world became very different places during lockdowns — particularly in the early days of the pandemic. this was san francisco under a stay—at—home order back in the spring. much quieter than usual, notjust fewer people but fewer cars too. and that meant other noises could
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make themselves heard more clearly. bird calls. this was a white—crowned sparrow singing at the foot of an otherwise very quiet golden gate bridge. and during lockdown people in built—up areas all over the world experienced hearing birdsong much louder than before. that phenomenon has now been studied and — it turns out our ears were deceiving us. bird calls. this was an audio recording made in the same area of san francisco four years earlier before lockdown. there's much more traffic noise. and the birds are having to make themselves heard over that. guess what, they were actually singing more loudly, back then. elizabeth derryberry is an ecologist at the university of tennessee and did the research. birdsong wasn't louder during lockdown, it was actually quieter? i'm sure lots of people are fascinated by this. so the birds have got quieter? that's right. it's
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pretty surprising. i think all of us have been out in these quiet areas where it sounds like everything is much louder. we hear more birds, they sound louder to us, but if we go out and record them and compare them to the songs we recorded before them to the songs we recorded before the lockdown, they are actually singing more softly. it's like a party, right, at the height of the party, right, at the height of the party, it's really loud come everybody is shouting and as people start to go home and gets quieter, you don't keep shouting. they were able to stop shouting, naturally singing much more softly. what's the explanation the fact that i ended when all things they got louder. it's partly because i got so much quieter that their songs can actually go twice the distance. you can imagine, if you can hear a actually go twice the distance. you can imagine, if you can heara bird may be just here it about five metres from you before covid, during the shutdown, actually you can hear it now at ten metres away. if you think about that that is like the
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radius of a circle and draw this imaginary circle around you, then you can hear effectively four times as many birds. sojust hearing you can hear effectively four times as many birds. so just hearing that many more birds and having it be so much quieter means that they sound louder. i was reading some of your research earlier. i was interested to see the male birds have really kicked on and their performance. they have. so, you know, i like to say, when you are at the height of a party, you are probably making small talk, write, you are not really talking philosophy, so as it gets quieter come of it can actually put more information into their signal. for example, they have a wider bandwidth to their song and they sound sexier. they are more competitive with other males, and they can put trent —— potentially attract more female. i did have one theory that i'm sure you'll tell me is completely wrong, but because it was a lot of quieter in human beings we re was a lot of quieter in human beings were a lot less conspicuous, they we re were a lot less conspicuous, they were civilly more competent to express themselves and all the environments in which they live, but it sounds like that was complete the wrong. you know, that is a good
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idea. we thought maybe the same thing. so we actually took into account how far we were standing from a birds when we recorded them, and we found that how loud they were was approximately the same as from before covid. so we know what they should do at a certain distance, how close we get to them for what they should do, and they were doing the same thing. so it seems like they weren't that they were more confidence, it was just that much quieter that they could stop singing so loudly. elizabeth, only 30 seconds, but one other thing to point out, it was just lovely while it lasted, wasn't to? it was. you know, i think they really enjoyed it too. a lot of the young birds are actually learning their songs during that time. so we are really eager to find out next year what they sound like. all right, it's a date, we will talk this time next year and find out more about your new research. ink very much indeed for explaining all that to us. fascinating stuff. —— thank you very much. stay with me, i will be back
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with you into or three minutes for more. well, you can really feel the autumn in the air now. first thing this morning in northern scotland, it was —5 celsius. we had a few hailstorms during the day and other parts of the country, and the autumn chill is with us at least for the next 2—3 days. and on top of that, it'll turn very windy tomorrow across some eastern and southeastern areas. if you look at the north atlantic, there's a lot of cloud out there, weather systems lining up. the whole atmosphere across the atlantic is becoming alive and an autumnal picture. so, let's see what's happening then through the course of this evening and overnight. showers scattered across england and wales — not too many of them around scotland and northern ireland. in fact, here, the winds will also be light with clear skies, meaning temperatures in glasgow and edinburgh will be close
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to freezing early on friday morning, and no doubt below freezing in the countryside. so here's the weather map for friday, then, and there's a low pressure in the southern portion of the north sea. so that means that these areas here will get the worst of the weather. gale force winds are expected from the northeast of england, along the north sea coast, down into east anglia and the southeast, as well. gusts around coasts possibly up to 60 mph, 40 orso inland, and on top of that, we've got showers, temperatures only 12 celsius — it's going to feel cold. further towards the west, still windy, but not quite so windy. so we're thinking in belfast, liverpool and cardiff, it shouldn't feel too bad at all. now here's saturday, and we're in sort of a window of opportunity — a weak high pressure is building across the uk, from the north this time. so this is where the best of the weather will be, certainly a fair bit of sunshine around, but notice still that strong wind blowing off the north sea, so hull and norwich are in for showers and another cold day on saturday — it'll feel warmer in places like cardiff and also plymouth.
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saturday evening, you can see that wind continuing, and those showers in east anglia. now the temperatures during the course of the weekend will be nippy. we're talking about a frost in scotland, because the winds will be lightest here. but where we've got those winds blowing off the north sea, temperatures will probably hover around nine celsius. now overall, the weekend isn't looking too bad. the winds are light, there'll be some sunshine around, but the indications are that clouds, wind and rain will increase next week eventually. bye— bye.
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hello, i'm ros atkins, this is outside source. the us president says he'd "have to see" if he'd willing to accept an election defeat. the white house, has clarified the position. the president looks of the result of a free and fair election, he will accept the will of the american people. the president's critics say ‘fairness' isn't for him to decide. some people in the crowd chanted "vote him out" when donald trump visited the supreme court. lots of coronavirus vaccines are being developed, countries are competing to get their hands on the few that might make it. we'll look at vaccine nationalism, and what that's all about. and, were birds really singing louder during lockdown?
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