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this is bbc news with the latest headlines. a police officer has been shot dead at croydon custody centre in south london. a 23—year—old suspect has been detained after turning the gun on himself. he's in a critical condition. reaction to the chancellor's latest coronavirus economic measures with some sectors saying they are missing out. the boss of next warns that thousands of retail jobs may become "unviable" it's not that people aren't going to have their hair cut or aren't going to buy sandwiches or aren't going to go shopping, things that they might do less of in city centres and more of it elsewhere. the cost of the pandemic — britain's debt continues to rise with borrowing hitting £35 billion in august. and at 9:30am, we'll answer your questions on the chancellor's new measures
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to replace furlough. you can get in touch on twitter — it's @annita—mcveigh or #bbcyourquestions. hundreds of students at universities in scotland are self—isolating and all students are told not to go to pubs or parties this weekend. it's obviously the right advice, we should be maintaining social distancing and stuff but to be honest, i don't think it's very realistic. royal finances are down £35 million as visitors to buckingham palace and windsor castle fall dramatically. good morning and welcome to bbc news. we start with some
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breaking news this hour — a police officer has been shot dead in south london. the officer was shot by a suspect at croydon custody centre. our correspondent alastair leithead can tell us more. awful news coming in in the last few minutes, i know that details are pretty sca nt minutes, i know that details are pretty scant but what do we know about what happened 7 pretty scant but what do we know about what happened? this incident happened at around quarter past two in the morning, either inside or outside the croydon custody centre in south london. an officer was shot and killed on that scene and we understand he was treated at the scene and taken to hospital but died of his injuries later. a 23—year—old man with a gunshot wound was then detained. no police firearms were fired, which means that what we understand is the man fired his gun and turned it on himself. he is in a
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critical condition in hospital at the moment. we don't know exactly what happened but we understand, this has not been confirmed yet from the metropolitan police, that he was either being searched or had been searched when the incident happened. of course this is something very unusual. we are hearing statements from the metropolitan police who have been tweeting about this and a shocking incident is the way cressida dick described it. yes, we have a bit more detail on that. "this is a truly shocking incident in which one of our colleagues has lost his life in the most tragic circumstances. my heart goes out to his family. and we have heard more in terms of a response from the metropolitan police on twitter and also the home secretary. i can just pass you that
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which is from priti patel. de home sexy has said she is deeply shocked and saddened to learn a metropolitan police officer has been shot and killed in the line of duty. my thoughts today are with his family, friends and policing colleagues in london and across the country. this morning i spoke to metropolitan police commissioner cressida dick to express my condolences and offer whatever support is needed at this tragic event is investigated. she finishes by saying, "this is a sad day for our country and another terrible reminder of how our police officers put themselves in danger each and every day to keep the rest of us safe." that was the statement from the home secretary on the police officer who has been shot dead. i think we can show you a tweet from the metropolitan police, . ..
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just recap what we know about the circumstances in which someone who was detained was able to shoot a police officer and kill that office opened a 23—year—old man being told, at 2:15am, at croydon custody centre, i that was being searched or had been searched when the incident happen and it seems he fired the weapon at the police officer and took his life and then turned the gun on himself. he is in hospital being treated for his injuries at the moment and honestly being held by the police in that situation. we obviously don't know what the circumstances were in which the individual had a gun or was able to get a ccess individual had a gun or was able to get access to one? that's right and we have to emphasise this is a very unusual incident. i think danny
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shaw, our home affairs correspondence, said a short time ago that he does not remember a time when an incident as happened like this and an officer has been killed 01’ this and an officer has been killed or injured around a police facility so or injured around a police facility $03 or injured around a police facility so a very unusual or injured around a police facility so a very unusual situation. thank you, and of course we will bring you more news on that fatality, that shooting of a police officer in south london as we get it. businesses already suffering from the impact of coronavirus face further uncertainty after missing out on help in the chancellor's new emergenchob support scheme. people in a number of sectors, including retail and hospitality and those on zero hours contracts, fear for the future, as the head of one of britain's biggest high street chain warns that thousands of retail jobs are under threat. lord wolfson, who runs clothing firm next, said the posts of thousands of workers are now "unviable" because lockdown has triggered a permanent shift to online shopping. the state will now pay a maximum of 22% of employees wages. this contrasts with furlough which
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paid up to 80% of staff salaries. added to this is the new 10pm closing time which has led to the pub, hospitality and leisure industries fearing drastic loss of business. figures announced in the last couple of hours show the uk government borrowed £35.9 billion in august, as tackling the economic fallout of pandemic took its toll on the public finances. this report from jon donnison. in these tough economic times, some were drowning their sorrows last night, but across england it was early doors as the new nationwide 10pm curfew for pubs and bars kicked in. still got 45 minutes. last hour, year. make the most of it. early night, watch a movie. as a student, it is a bit annoying, like, freshers and everything, but i do think i'd ratherjust be safer than, like, going out and risking. to be honest, i tend to go to sleep at about ten o'clock anyway so it really doesn't affect me but i can
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imagine it would affect quite a lot of people quite a bit. it comes as the chancellor, rishi sunak, announced a new package of financial support... how are you going to pay for all of this, chancellor? ..but one where businesses are going to have to take more of the strain themselves. in october, the final month of the current furlough scheme, the government will be paying 60% of workers' salaries, with companies paying 20%. but from november, under the chancellor's new scheme, it is companies that will pay a minimum of 55% with the government paying a maximum of 22%, and employees will have to work at least a third of their normal hours. the chief executive of next has welcomed the move but is warning of thousands of traditional retail jobs might become unviable because of the shift to online sales. i think it's important that employers begin to pay a little bit more for these schemes, and that employees get a little bit
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less because otherwise i think there is a risk that our economy willjust become hooked on it. but others say the government is cutting support at a vital time. we are facing a cliff edge at the end of october and the scheme that's in front of us nowjust doesn't seem to stack up and doesn't go far enough to support our industry. what we can't do is have somebody come and work for 33% of their time and we have to pay for 55% of the time. itjust doesn't make economic sense. so, as people prepare for what, for many, will be a difficult winter, the health and the wealth of the nation remain intrinsically linked. jon donnison, bbc news. our political correspondent, leila nathoo, is at westminster. good morning. one of the big questions about the job support scheme is how manyjobs it will protect because will firms take it up protect because will firms take it up given the higher employer contributions compared to furlough? that is something that labour are pressing on both because of course
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the scheme is designed to protect as manyjobs as possible but if it is not in the companies' interest to employ more people rather than keep fewer on full time, clearly it will not have the desired effect. you heard this morning from the chief secretary to the treasury, stephen barclay, saying that companies were making more than financial calculation is about keeping employees on. that would be a skill set they might be reluctant to use and they might welcome the flexibility to keep employees on part—time and to vary their hours but i think the broad message you are hearing from government is that the context is changed, we are not where we were in march when we thought this would be a temporary disruption to the economy. we are 110w disruption to the economy. we are now in something we have to live with, in the words of chancellor at rishi sunak, yesterday, and the economy has adjusted to coronavirus and is in a different context and he thinks it's right to end the furlough schemes and to not subsidisejobs that furlough schemes and to not subsidise jobs that would otherwise
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not be viable in this climate. this is what stephen barclay, the chief secretary to the treasury, told us earlier. it's about striking a balance between both the protection ofjobs, but the longer term affordability from a wider economic perspective, and that's why the chancellor set out more targeted measures at those jobs that are viable, but alongside that has a package, a plan forjobs, to enable us to retrain, get the skills support in to boost those sectors of the economy that can grow, particularly for example through infrastructure investment, in order that we protect those jobs that we can. we are being honest that won't be everyjob, but it's important people aren't out of the labour market for extended periods. stephen buckley saying quite honestly that the government could not protect every job honestly that the government could not protect everyjob and certainly there are questions remaining about what happens to those people working in sectors and businesses that are
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still completely closed because of government restrictions that are in place. the chancellor rejected the idea of a targeted furlough scheme which is something labour had been calling for, to help sectors that we re calling for, to help sectors that were still closed because of the restrictions. but the message you are hearing from the government is that we are now going to be in this for some time to come, and chancellor at rishi sunak referred to the timescale of the six months again, and they think they need to put government support measures back ona put government support measures back on a sustainable footing. and switching tacked on a conversation slightly, a lot of consternation about the government use of emergency powers to bring in various measures on coronavirus, not economic measures but others to perhaps control people's movement etc. now there is more support for an attempt to bring in some checks and balances on that? there has certainly been some disquiet in westminster among tory mps who have been critical of the government
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approach and their handling of the pandemic and the instructions put in place. now there seems to be a gathering head of steam around an amendment which has been put forward by sirgraham amendment which has been put forward by sir graham brady who is the chair of the powerful backbench committee of the powerful backbench committee of conservative mps. next week in the commons, the coronavirus act, a piece of legislation passed in march which enabled the government to have emergency powers to bring in the coronavirus restrictions, that has to be renewed by law every six months and that moment is next week so there is a parliamentary moment where mps think they have a chance to amend that to say that parliament in the future should have more of a say over these measures and should be able to debate them and debate and vote on them and sir graham brady has got the signatures more than a0 tory mps which is a significant number because the government has a huge majority of over 80. a potential rebellion would have to have a big backing of tory mps and this one seems to have that.
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there is a bit of a caveat, it's not yet clear whether the amendment will be selected for debate, but i think the very fact you are seeing all these tory mps, a broad coalition across the party, signing up to this idea giving parliament more powers to scrutinise the restrictions come into force in the future, that will mean that number 10 will be taking notice. i think the rebels are hoping they will the government on side and the government will not wa nt to side and the government will not want to risk have a vote go against them and might accept the amendment ahead of the vote on wednesday. thank you very much indeed, leila nathoo at westminster. let's return to the breaking news from the last 30 minutes, that a police officer has been shot dead at a police station in south london, at the croydon custody centre. we are told he died in hospital after being shot bya man he died in hospital after being shot by a man at the centre during the early hours of this morning. a
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23—year—old man was detained at the scene 23—year—old man was detained at the scene and taken to hospital with a gunshot wound and is in a critical condition. we can get that reaction from the metropolitan police federation which represents 30,000 police officers in the london area. we have some pictures from the scene, that is the croydon custody centre, where the police officer was shot dead in the early hours of this morning he was treated at the scene and taken to hospital but sadly pronounced dead. our home affairs correspondent danny shaw has the latest.
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you have been pointing out that this is an incredibly unusual situation. iam seeing is an incredibly unusual situation. i am seeing in reports that the met police are saying that no police firearms were discharged during the incident so the logical conclusion of that is that the suspect was carrying a firearm? that is my understanding. clearly at the metropolitan police have not confirmed that, there will have to be an investigation but my understanding is the suspect was being brought into the custody centre at croydon. whether he had actually been brought inside or was still in the grounds where the fans parkis still in the grounds where the fans park is not clear at the moment —— the police vans. at some point, when he was being detained, or before or as he was being searched, he had produced a gun and shot the police officer and turned the gun on himself. he is now critically ill in hospital opened the police officer,
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tragically, died under extremely rare for a police officer to be shot in the uk. and incredibly rare for this to happen in the grounds of a police station. i cannot remember a situation like that. it is not perhaps a matter for today to go into how that happened but clearly there will have to be an enquiry as to how it was that a suspect produced a firearm at a custody centre, at a police station. and i think that shop is reflected in the reaction from the home secretary, the commission of the met, cressida dick, from the police federation and others ? when a police officer dies in the line of duty, the effect reverberate around the service and community is as welcome it is felt very deeply by the police service. i think there will be added shock that this has
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happened in the grounds of a police station, a custody centre. people will be asking how on earth was that allowed to happen. firearms use sadly is a feature of policing in london, and officers know they face a risk when they are out on patrol and called to incidents in the capital. we have seen recently a number of shootings in london and so the risk is there but for it to happen in the grounds of a police station is unheard of. danny, for the moment, thank you very much, danny shaw, our home affairs correspondent. we will keep bringing you up—to—date with any development in that but the latest reports are saying that no police firearms were discharged during the incident. the police officer was treated at the scene of the shooting and then taken to hospital but sadly it was confirmed that he had died of his
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injuries. the 23—year—old suspect was also taken to hospital with a gunshot wound and remains in a critical condition. we will bring you more details on that as we get them. let's return now to the economy. everyone is looking in detail at those announcements from the chancellor yesterday, particularly around the job support scheme which will take over from furlough which ends at the end of next month. we can discuss that now. with me is tom honey, the founder of stoned pizza in woolacombe. also i'm joined byjane pendlebury from the hospitality professionals association. good morning to both of you and thank you for your time. tom, tell us thank you for your time. tom, tell us about your business, how many people you employ and how you have been coping financially through the last six months. we have about 40 people that we employ and four sites
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around devon and i think the whole situation and the scale of it is so new. there is not a rule book for how to deal with it. the measures that have been put in place are really helpful but they are a one size fits all type solution. the difficulty for my business and a lot of other businesses in devon and cornwall it was that we missed the first three months of trading at the beginning of the year. it was not that that were reduced hours but no sales at all and we only have six months to trade in. the three lost months to trade in. the three lost months are the equivalent of six months are the equivalent of six months no sales for any normal business. while we did have a good second half, ithink business. while we did have a good second half, i think we are all coming into the winter now with much shallower pockets and all thinking where and when will we next have more sales? let me ask you the resolution foundation is one of the many organisations crunching the numbers after the announcement
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yesterday and it says the big question is whether firms will take up question is whether firms will take up thejob question is whether firms will take up the job support scheme given the higher employer contributions needed compared to furlough. it points out for example that it will cost firms a third more to employ to workers half time than one worker full—time, based on a wage of £17,000. so do you think this will allow you, the scheme, to keep all the people you currently employ in employment?” think the thing about that is, in devon and cornwall, we have very different... our economy is different... our economy is different to the rest of the country. we only have six months to trade and in the rest of the year, we wouldn't really be employing people anyway and that's across the board for devon and cornwall, all our economy is tourism —based. we don't have people we would be employing into the winter anyway. don't have people we would be employing into the winter anywaym you just couldn't afford, even theoretically, to do that because of
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theoretically, to do that because of the specific economy in an area like where you are? yes. and we wouldn't need to so that kind of funding and support isn't tailored to suit our businesses or any businesses in devon and cornwall because it's the wrong type. jane from the hospitality professionals association, interesting to listen to tom. obviously quite specific because it depends so much on tourism in his location. you have described the help so far as invaluable but do you think the new measures go far enough? sadly not. i think what is happening now, it has beena think what is happening now, it has been a really hard week for hospitality with the reduced hours and all of that and we were hoping for some support and whilst any support is welcome, this really doesn't go far enough. your point about being able to employ one person for the cost of three, it's
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better to have one person working full—time than to have three people working in a third of their time because it's more cost effective for the employer, that will not be saving anyjobs. the employer, that will not be saving any jobs. that was my next question really, do you think we are facing a jobs cliff edge? the chancellor said that is what he is trying to avoid but do you think when people crunch the numbers, however much they might like to hold on to people, they will not be able to afford to? quite frankly, those numbers have already been crunched. they were being crunched in august when we knew furlough was coming to an end at the end of october. most of those redundancy consultancy periods are already well under way and a lot of the redundancies have already been made. that will not stop. and i wonder, tom, you look ahead to eight winter season when normally you would not be busy in any case, but the circumstances are pretty dire this winter of course.
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what are your thoughts, and the word we have been looking at is viability, that was the word of the chancellor used, the viability of your business into spring and summer next year? it's a massive struggle and a massive concern for me and a lot of small businesses and owner operated type people. we don't know when tourists will come back down, we have no idea and it doesn't look like... even if the economy is in a situation or the virus is in a situation or the virus is in a situation where people can come will people have money to travel? don't know. i think we are all concerned and just don't know what is going to happen. , and jane, thank you very much for talking to us. tom honey from stoned pizza and jane pendlebury from the hospitality professionals association. princess
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eugenie and jack brooksbank are pleased to announce they are expecting a baby early next year, buckingham palace has just announced. no more details other than that they say they are very pleased to announce they are expecting a baby which is due early in 2021 according to buckingham palace. if we find out what we will let you know. we can speak to our royal correspondent sarah campbell. you are probably hearing that news but you're here to talk to us about royal finances. obviously baby news is always rather wonderful. tell us about those royal finances first. just to follow on from the princess eugenie news, we got a statement from buckingham palace in the last five minutes, expecting a baby in early 2021. eugenie course is the duke and that is ofjorg's youngest daughter and —— duchess of york.
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they say they are all delighted with the news. there we go, breaking news, another royal baby but let's get onto the sovereign grant, the royal accou nts get onto the sovereign grant, the royal accounts which were published this morning. we can see what they are looking like, and always with the royal accounts, travel is one of the royal accounts, travel is one of theissues the royal accounts, travel is one of the issues because people like to know how much these royal tours cost point it was actually up 15% over the last financial year, up to march this year and the most expensive tour turned out to be the final royal tour for the duke and tour turned out to be the final royal tourfor the duke and duchess of sussex who went to some africa with harry going on to three other countries —— southern africa. at cost just shy of countries —— southern africa. at costjust shy of £250,000. number two on the list was prince charles going to oman to offer his condolences after the death of the sultan, that came out at £210,000
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because he was unable to secure a last—minute scheduled flight. and the duke of york spent £16,000 travelling to the open in portrush in northern ireland to go and watch a bit of golf. some critical comment wondering whether quite that amount of money needs to be spent on a royal travel. one interesting thing that came out was the impact of covid, everybody is being impacted, and according to a royal finances, it looks like going forward there would be a shortfall of something in the region of £35 million to do with the region of £35 million to do with the way it is calculator, profits from the crown estate. rental incomes are likely to be down and less money coming in from things like business to palaces and galleries. all of that might make an impact but the keeper of the privy purse was keen to say they would not be asking for more taxpayer money, they would find it through efficiencies and savings. thank you very much, sarah. it is 27 minutes past nine. let me
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bring you up—to—date with the breaking news in the last half an hour, the very sad news that a police officer has been shot dead at the croydon custody centre in south london. this happened in the early hours of this morning. a 23—year—old suspect then turned the gun on himself and is in a critical condition in hospital. a lot of reaction coming into this highly unusual situation. our home affairs correspondent danny short said a few minutes ago he cannot think of a circumstance where a police officer has been killed within the boundary ofa has been killed within the boundary of a police station. it is very rare for a police officer to be killed in the uk. he cannot think of a situation where a police officer has been shot in these sorts of
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circumstances. a lot of reaction coming in, the metropolitan police federation, which represents 30,000 officers in london, said it was devastating news and their thoughts we re devastating news and their thoughts were with their colleague's family, friends and close colleagues point out they are offering officers their support. sarah jones, the out they are offering officers their support. sarahjones, the mp for croydon central, and shadow policing minister, said this on twitter. we will be talking to sarahjones mp within the next half an hour about this incident. home secretary priti patel has also been reacting, saying she is deeply shocked and saddened to learn a metropolitan police officer has been shocked and killed in the line of duty. she says her thoughts are with his family, friends and policing colleagues in london and across the country. it is
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29 minutes past nine. returning to the other main story which is all wrapped up in reaction to the announcement of the job support scheme yesterday by the chancellor to replace furlough which ends at the end of october and of course pubs in england closed at ten o'clock last night as part of the new rules to curb the spread of coronavirus. we can find out how one pub got on. mike is the chef and owner of a restaurant in henley in arden. thank you forjoining us. how was it last night? i should say that normally you would be going on until 12 o'clock because you have a licence? it was very strange to finish. it was almost halfway through the night. it's not just was almost halfway through the night. it's notjust finishing an hour early, it's quite some time earlier that we have to finish. nine
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o'clock, 9.15, you are getting the last orders in, and almost rushing people out of the door. getting them out as quick as possible. it's not the right vibe to what we are used to. you obviously have a reduction in the number of people you can have in any way but do you think the earlier closing time had a further knock—on on the numbers of people wanting to come? yes, definitely. we are a0% down as it is already. that's on pre—covert. and now we are a0% down plus probably another ten, 20, 30%, because we are having to cut halfway through our evening. the last table booking now is at eight o'clock to give them two hours at the table to eat and drink and have them out by ten o'clock. usually it's 9:30pm, ten tm, for the last
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table settings for them to be out at 12 o'clock. it's had a massive impact. this is the first night, and we will see what happens in the next few days. this will have a big impact on the christmas period. already drastically changed because of the situation we are in but normally at this time you would be taking lots of bookings and big bookings well into the night. what are things looking like now? do you think people will wait until closer to christmas to decide whether they can and should book?” to christmas to decide whether they can and should book? i think so. with all the changes that are going on, we don't really know what's going to happen when we get to december. things are changing on a daily basis, a weekly basis, so therefore its daily basis, a weekly basis, so therefore it's difficult for us to plan ahead. it's difficult for customers and diners to plan ahead. i think you're right, people will definitely wait until the last minute, which makes it more
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difficult for us to plan. do we have the right staff, do we have all the right logistics in place and certainly during the christmas period, trying to get people out at ten o'clock is going to prove quite difficult, especially when they want to celebrate with family and friends or with their offices and work colleagues. and listening to you talk about staff and the percentages you are down by in terms of the number of people you can get into your barand number of people you can get into your bar and restaurant, you must have been listening very carefully to what the chancellor had to say yesterday. do you think you are going to have enough business and enough income coming in to avail of thisjob support enough income coming in to avail of this job support scheme and make it worth your while tojoin this job support scheme and make it worth your while to join thatjob support scheme? yeah, i think... obviously we'll have to. and any help from the government is exactly what we need. we need to make sure we use it to our benefit. at the end
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of the day we don't want to lose any members of staff. we want to continue as we normally do, but u nfortu nately if we continue as we normally do, but unfortunately if we don't get people through the doors, if we don't get customers, then it's going to make life much harder and i don't really wa nt to life much harder and i don't really want to think about what we are going to have to do if it gets any worse. good luck to you and your business and all your staff. thank you so much for talking to us at this very uncertain mike bullard, the chef and owner at the butcher's restau ra nt the chef and owner at the butcher's restaurant and bar at henley in arden. let's look at the weather forecast heading into the weekend with sarah. hello. we have some wet and windy weather lingering today across parts of eastern england but elsewhere, quite a good deal of dry weather with some blue skies and sunshine. a few showers coming down from northern and western parts on that northerly breeze but it really is across parts of eastern england that we will have
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the heaviest and most persistent rain combined with gales as well, particularly for lincolnshire and east anglia. those gusts of wind in the east could reach about 60 mph or more and combine that with the heavy rain and there could be some surface water flooding, perhaps some trees down, certainly the potential for some disruption across parts of eastern england. but elsewhere, looking much drier and brighter. temperatures typically about 11 in the east to about 16 or even 17 further west. into this evening and tonight, we keep that rain which will linger again in parts of east anglia in particular but clear and dry conditions elsewhere and quite a cold night ahead with temperatures well down into the mid or even a low single figures. as for the weekend, we keep outbreaks of rain across parts of eastern england but drier, brighter and still breezy elsewhere. hello this is bbc news. the headlines... a police officer has been shot dead at croydon custody centre in south london. the bbc understands the 23—year—old suspect then
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turned the gun on himself. the metropolitan police said the officer died in hospital after being shot by the man at croydon custody centre during the early hours. after the chancellor's latest coronavirus economic measures, some sectors say they're missing out, with the boss of next warning that thousands of retailjobs may become "unviable. " the cost of the pandemic — britain's debt continues to rise with borrowing hitting £35 billion in august. hundreds of students at universities in scotland are self—isolating and all students are told not to go to pubs or parties this weekend. the queen's granddaughter, princess eugenie, has announced she's expecting a baby early next year. let me bring you up—to—date on what we have on this sound breaking news this morning, the news that a police
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officer has been shot dead within the perimeter of a police station in south—west london. we don't know if it was inside or outside the building, but the details we do have say the shooting happened in the early hours of this morning. the officer was treated at the scene and then taken to hospital but sadly pronounced dead. the suspect turned the gun on himself, the 23—year—old man, and he is in a critical condition in hospital. the home secretary, priti patel, has said in a statement...
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this morning i spoke to metropolitan police commissioner cressida dick to express my condolence and support. it's a sad day for our country and it isa it's a sad day for our country and it is a terrible reminder of how police officers put them self in danger every day to keep the rest of us danger every day to keep the rest of us safe. we have heard the metropolitan police has said a police firearm was not discharged, so the logical conclusion of that is that the suspect had a gun or obtain the gun somehow but we do not have confirmation. but a police statement saying a police firearm was not used or discharged during this incident. we will shortly speak to the mp for croydon, and the shadow policing minister, sarah jones, croydon, and the shadow policing minister, sarahjones, who has expressed her shock at this news. we will speak to her in a few minutes'
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time. now on bbc news it's time for your questions answered. as we return to the chancellor's statement from yesterday and that job support scheme announcement. you've been sending in your questions aboutjobs and the economy after the chancellor announced new measures to try and protect jobs overwinter. thank you very much for those questions. that scheme will follow on from the end of the furlough scheme at the end of october. here to answer them is the chief economist from the institute of directors, tej parikh and employment lawyer, anne sammon. we begin with a question from laura, who asks, will people on the scheme be required to do unpaid work for their community to make up for the hours they are being paid for but
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not working? i may have missed something but i didn't hear anything about that yesterday. no, there is no requirement for people to make up the time in that way. with the job retention scheme during coronavirus we saw a lot of people volunteering with the time they got back during the furlough, so we are hopeful people might volunteer to work in their communities. perhaps they have already been doing that and will continue to do that if their return to work is not full—time. a question from jeremy, being in the events sector we have no income generating work in the foreseeable future but there is a stock maintenance work to be done for potential future bookings so does this count as viable work? a very popular question with a lot of tweets from people in that sector yesterday with concerns about what the future holds for them. yes, viable as an ambiguous term and we hope further guidance from the government will help to clarify this. but it is largely
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based on the capacity of the business itself to retain that job in particular and pay the additional amount to keep that work on. so in this situation it seems like this would be deemed as viable work if it supports future bookings in this individual's organisation, but hopefully we will get clarity on what the word viable means. as you say, viable is a pretty subjective term and lots of businesses might say, yes, iwould term and lots of businesses might say, yes, i would have to put my business on ice for six months but beyond that, if we are out of the worst of the pandemic, the business would then instantly become viable again, so it's an interesting word as you say, and much discussion of that to go on. michael asks, what should i do if my employer states we should i do if my employer states we should still work from the office despite being able to effectively work from home? i think the first thing is to try to understand from
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your employer why they want you to go to the office. we sometimes see a disconnect between what the employer thinks is effective work from home and what the employee thinks. the first—aiders to have an informal conversation with a line manager or someone in management to try to understand the employer's perspective. after that if that doesn't work, i would use the employment grievance process. doesn't work, i would use the employment grievance processm this something employers and employees can do by way of discussion to demonstrate that a workplace is covert secure for example? exactly. i think workplace is covert secure for example? exactly. ithink trying workplace is covert secure for example? exactly. i think trying to understand where the employer is coming from and whether they are providing a covid secure workplace will stop where that is provided then employers can ask employees to come in where it is not effective to work from home. there might be concerns about how someone can travel info stop it is one to travel in in yourown travel info stop it is one to travel in in your own car but it is another
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to travel on public transport which may raise concerns for a lot of people. i was in london last week and the trains were brilliantly managed. i know other people have had different experiences and i think employers should be factoring this in. you look at ways people can travel to the office, whether they can walk or cycle or whether they are forced onto public transport and it's something you would weigh up in the balance of whether you will ask people to come in. a question from david, in north lanarkshire. he asks, iam david, in north lanarkshire. he asks, i am a self—employed taxi driver in scotland so how will this work for me? in addition to the job support scheme, which is an extension of the job retention scheme, there was an extension to the grants given to the self—employed. it comes in at a lower rate, at around 20% of your average monthly profits that would be covered up to a cap. this tends to cover most self—employed people.
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we know some operate through limited companies who are likely to miss out, unfortunately. we don't know whether david is set up as a limited company or not, but if he isn't?“ he's not then he should be able to apply for the self—employment grant and cover around 20% of his average monthly profits. in addition there was an announcement around extending your tax payments. we know some self—employed people who do self assessed tax payments will be able to extend that over a long period of time next year rather than having to cram all the payment into early next year. are some good pointers for david to follow up on there. fill in wetherby says, how does this affect those of us in the arts and entertainment industries? i work for a theatre and there are no shows planned and therefore no work to go back to. hard to do a third of your
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hours when none are available stop looks like we are overlooked yet again. this is one of the sectors that feels left out from last time and says they are still left out. and i think the difficulty with this scheme for some employers is that where there is no work to be done you are not covered by this new scheme because employees have to work a third of their hours and therefore there will be lots of businesses out of scope, u nfortu nately. businesses out of scope, unfortunately. it's a really difficult one and i feel for all the people in this position. the next question is from sarah and it follows on from the points raised by phil and it goes back to the word viable. sarah asks, could you please explain what a viable and non—viable job is? again, it will really come down to the employer and the business and whether they think it is viable to be retaining that work and paying the additional amount is
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required under the job support scheme. it's very difficult for businesses tojudge what scheme. it's very difficult for businesses to judge what is viable businesses to judge what is viable business at the moment because they have very little clarity on the pathway of the pandemic and how various restrictions will play out for them. various restrictions will play out forthem. one various restrictions will play out for them. one thing that could help businesses to determine whether things are more viable for them are the range of other measures announced yesterday. for example, there was a lot more announcements around ease of paying back the debt businesses might have taken out over the course of the pandemic. those things might help make things more viable but at this stage it remains quite an ambiguous term.” viable but at this stage it remains quite an ambiguous term. i suppose that kind of assistance, we just don't know. for some businesses it might makea don't know. for some businesses it might make a difference. they might be able to put things on ice for however many months and hopefully re—emerge afterwards. other people simply won't be able to sustain that and will have to try to look for other work or go on benefits. yes,
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and as we have heard, it will affect different industries. we have heard from the entertainment sector, retail sector and hospitality sector, which are likely to be impacted a lot more by the new restrictions over the coming six months. for some people it might not cover them well enough and the hope would be... i know the disappointment yesterday was there was not specific sector —based support announced so this is something the government could look to in the coming months. a question from mayo. if my regular working hours were reduced from 30 down to 20 during the time i had to shield, does my employer now have to reinstate 30 hours? i think that will depend on the basis on which the hours were reduced from 30 down to 20. if it was presented as a temporary reduction and hopefully
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the employer put a time limit on that and in that case they would have to up that back to 30. i think the difficulty here is if there is a vague notion of, we will notify you when it will be appropriate for us to increase that, that is where we may have some uncertainty. one of the things employers need to be mindful of when dealing with employees who are shielding, they are likely to be disabled under the equality act and as an employer you have to make sure you are not subjecting anyone to any detriment asa subjecting anyone to any detriment as a result of a disability.” suppose good communication and some give and take on both sides to get their heads around what this means would be a good idea then? absolutely, communication and transparency are key here. time for one more from tariq who asks, nothing has been said for those like me who are contractors via limited companies. we have received little support so far so what's next? people in that position, what advice and thoughts do you have for them?
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this is a difficult one, since the pandemic began, because there has been very little support for individuals who might remunerate themselves more through dividend payments through a limited company as opposed to through the paye system. the government line so far has been that individuals in this situation should do us much as they can, using the job support scheme and job retention scheme to get payments or grants for the amount of salary they pay themselves through the paye system. unfortunately they will not be any coverage for them for the dividends, and this is a big concern for them. at the iod, this cove rs a lot concern for them. at the iod, this covers a lot of our members and we hope to push the treasury more on this in the coming months. tej and anne, thank you for answering our viewers' questions. thank you for
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sending them in and if you want to sending them in and if you want to send a comment on your situation then tweet me and we will try to read some of them out. more now on the breaking news this morning, the very sad news that a police officer has been shot dead at a police station in south london, in croydon, the croydon custody centre. we are told this happened in the early hours of this morning. the suspect turned the gun on himself, the 23—year—old man, and he is in a critical condition in hospital. the metropolitan police have released a statement. it says... "a murder investigation has been launched following the death of a police officer in south london."
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extremely difficult time. i remain in close contact with the commissioner to offer her and our met officers and staff my support." that from sadiq khan. we will be back with more on this. this is the scene at windmill lane, croydon, where that fatal shooting occurred in the early hours of this morning. the boss of the next fashion chain has warned that thousands of retailjobs may become "unviable" because of the shift to online shopping as a result of the coronavirus pandemic. lord wolfson, who's a conservative peer, welcomed the newjob support scheme announced by the chancellor yesterday. here's our business editor, simonjack. by our calculations, in our particular case, we don't think we will need it and we won't draw on it very much because we think by the time it gets
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to the end of october, there'll be enough work through the normal build—up to christmas to employ all the people we've currently got on furlough. we've got less than 10% of our staff on furlough, so we don't think we'll need it, but we think other sectors desperately will. we think it's important that employers begin to pay a little bit more for these schemes, and that employers get a little bit less because otherwise i think there's a risk that our economy willjust become hooked on it. ultimately, the consumers, the numbers of people coming into the shop, are going to determine how many people you can employ. so, yes, it's the employer, but all the employer's really doing is reflecting underlying demand from the consumer. a lot of people say with this permanent looking shift online, a lot of the unviable jobs are in retail. is that right? i think that is right, yes. and i wouldn't want to underestimate the difficulty that's going to cause a lot of people who work in retail. i think it's going to be very uncomfortable for a lot of people. we will inevitably, and have already, reduced the number of people working in our shops, and i expect that to continue over the coming five or six years, as the demand for retail goes down.
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but we are taking on people in our call centre, we are training new recruits in our call centres, in our warehousing, our distribution networks are taking on new employees. so there are newjobs, and in terms of finding where those opportunities are, the internet provides an amazingly powerful tool to connect employers with employees. are our city centres doomed? i don't think so. i think they are going to have to change. and it's not that people are not going to have their hair cut or are not going to buy sandwiches or aren't going to go shopping. it's that they might do less of it in city centres and more of it elsewhere. i think the idea of having places that lots of people can get to easily in order to meet and socialise and work together, i think that idea is always going to be powerful. you've been a bit of an outlier saying, listen, we bid the rents up, we signed the contracts, we should pay. and yet you also, when those leases have come up for renewal, been getting 50—plus percent reductions. what's the future for those landlords? our view has always been very simple. we agreed to pay those rents.
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we often took large amounts of money from landlords when we opened the shop in order to fit them out, and we can't now turn around and say, you know, that's not fair. we agreed to it, we are on the hook, so we've got to pay it. but that paying will come to an end as and when the leases come up for renewal. and our experience is that landlords are being extremely realistic when it comes to renewing leases. the reason i think it's so important for us to recognise that landlords need to be treated fairly, as a country, is because they are the ones who are going to invest for the future. if the high street, if our city centres and town centres are going to regenerate, it's only going to be from the investment that landlords make in those properties. and if we say to people today, well, it doesn't matter what assurances you were given five years ago, what promises were made, we are going to tear them all up and take your rent away from you, what confidence can they possibly have to invest in the future? now it's time for a look at the weather with sarah keith—lucas.
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we had some heavy rain, some thunderstorms and hail around yesterday and overnight. today, no exception, still heavy downpours around but not everyone will see them. some blue skies and sunshine on offer as well, but we will all noticed a brisk northerly wind blowing. the cloud on the satellite image that brought all that wet weather over the last 2a hours, rotating around a slow—moving area of low pressure which will set out towards the east and be a bit of a troublemaker in the next couple of days with rain piling around that area of low pressure and heading in particularly across parts of lincolnshire and east anglia today. notjust lincolnshire and east anglia today. not just persistent lincolnshire and east anglia today. notjust persistent rain here but gail is developing as well. elsewhere, also dry weather with some sunshine, just a few rogue showers across north and west parts of the uk coming in on that brisk northerly wind. concentrating on the wind across parts of east anglia and east england in general. gusts of a5-50 east england in general. gusts of a5—50 mph in land but nearer the coast, in excess of 60 mph and that
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could cause disruption, perhaps some small trees down, combined with a lot of wet weather and surface water flooding is possible in some parts of east anglia. into the evening and overnight, we keep the largely clear skies. still going to come and east anglia and the odd shower rattling through on the breeze overnight. under those clearing skies it would be quite a cold night with temperatures well down into the mid—or even low single figures to start saturday and there could be a touch of frost across parts of scotla nd touch of frost across parts of scotland first thing. kicking off saturday, lots of dry weather and some sunshine around for many but we will see more cloud lingering in eastern england and some outbreaks of rainfor eastern england and some outbreaks of rain for east anglia and the south—east, probably not as heavy and persistent as the rain today. again rather cool with temperatures 12-15, again rather cool with temperatures 12—15, possibly 16, you will notice a northerly breeze. still cloudy on sunday in the east on that breeze but that breeze will start to ease,
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a few showers and east anglia and the south—east on sunday but elsewhere should stay rather dry with temperatures between 11—17 by the time we get to sunday. looks like high pressure will bring some dry weather for many of us through monday and tuesday and then a return to more unsettled autumnal conditions through the second half of next week.
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this is bbc news with the latest headlines for viewers in the uk and around the world. a police officer has been shot dead at croydon custody centre in south london. the bbc understands the 23—year—old suspect then turned the gun on himself and is in a critical condition. the metropolitan police say the officer was taken to hospital where he later died. in the last few minutes, the prime minister, borisjohnson, has tweeted, sending his condolences to the family, friends and colleagues of the police officer. reaction to britain's latest coronavirus economic measures with some sectors saying they are missing out. warnings that thousands of retail jobs may become "unviable". it's not that people aren't going to have their hair cut
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