donald trump and joe biden clash during bad—tempered exchanges over coronavirus and the economy in the first televised presidential debate. i'm not going to answer the question. the question is... would you shut up man? mr trump was challenged to reveal how much he paid in income tax after he new york times said he'd paid just $750 when he became president four years ago. will you tell us how much you paid in federal income taxes in 2016 and 2017? millions of dollars. you paid millions of dollars? millions of dollars, and you get to see it. when? at the the end of the debate, both canddidtae were asked if they would ensure their supporters will reperct the result whover wins. fic tens of thousands of ballads manipulated, i cannot go on without. once the winner

is declared and all the ballots are counted, that will be the end of it, and if it's me, if it's not me, i will support the outcome. but did either candidate gaine the upper hand? and how will it influence us voters who haven't already decided who to back in november's presidential election? there have been more than 90 minutes of bad— tempered exchanges between donald trump and joe biden in the first televised debate ahead of november's election. the presidential rivals traded personal insults and argued over the response to coronavirus, the economy, race, healthcare and the supreme court. mr trump sought to malign mr biden by questioning his son's business dealings in russia. mr biden said mr trump's claims were not true and accused him of being president

putin's puppy. joe biden also accused the president of not having a plan of how to deal with the pandemic. if he had acted more swiftly, many more lives had been saved. a lot more will die if he gets a lot smarter a lot sooner. if he gets a lot smarter a lot sooner. you said you went to delaware state but you forgot your name of the college. you didn't go to delaware state, you graduated in the lowest or didn't even graduate. don't use the word smart with me. 47 years, you have done nothing. let me just tell you something joe. if you would have had the charge of what i was put through, i had to close the greatest economy in the history of our country. if you did not see it all, you are getting the idea now. on being asked about covid—19 vaccines, president

trump accused biden of turning it into a political issue.|j have spoken to the companies and we can have it a lot sooner. and we can have it a lot sooner. people like this would rather make a political and save lives. it is a very political thing. i have spoken to pfizer, i have spoken to all the people we need to, moderna, johnson &johnson, the people we need to, moderna, johnson & johnson, they the people we need to, moderna, johnson &johnson, they can go faster than like this a lot. it has become very political. you're suggesting that the head of your operation... you're suggesting that the head of your operation. . .. i disagree with both of them. he saidi disagree with both of them. he said i it could be that, but it could be a lot sooner. he said is ita could be a lot sooner. he said is it a possibility that we will have the answer before november one. it could also be after that. we're going to deliver it right away. we have military all set up. we have a military all set up. we have a military that delivers soldiers, and they could do 200,000 each day, they are going to be... this is the same

man who said by easter this will be gone away, by the warm weather it would be god, miraculously, like a miracle. maybe you could inject bleach in yourarmour maybe you could inject bleach in your armour that would take ca re of in your armour that would take care of it? we're talking to our bbc‘s reality check correspondence fa ct reality check correspondence fact checkers feel a bit like pinball is in a pinball machine. it is difficult to factor politicians who seem disinterested in thoughtful debate. the media as a whole still struggles, even after four years, to deal with president trump was make unique style, but there were things that were said which were questionable right about the debate on all sorts of issues, president trump for example saying that mr biden did not have any supporters in law enforcement, that's not true. mr biden said that president trump is not lower drug prices for anyone. but the monthly

prescription costs fell zero .03. you could point to things all the way through but certainly by my count, far more of the questionable things, things we think don't have a basis in fact or statistical backing came from the president rather than from the vice presidentjoe biden. specifically about the pandemic, coronavirus. mr biden had a very specific claim which is at the 4% of the world's population, 20% of the deaths are in the united states, and we think that is correct basically. the us does about 4% of the world's population are just over 200,000 deaths sadly, adjustable 1 just over 200,000 deaths sadly, adjustable1 million just over 200,000 deaths sadly, adjustable 1 million deaths around the world so about 20%. 0f around the world so about 20%. of course what he did not say and we may have a graft that we can show you what this is if you take per capita number of deaths than other countries are worse off than the united states, including the united

kingdom, so there are different ways to measure how badly a country has done, but this is difficult political territory for president trump. his response essentially was each time anything was raised on coronavirus, he said it would have been worse if he was in charge, because that is clearly impossible to prove or disprove. 0ne impossible to prove or disprove. one thing you did say was a vaccine would be ready within weeks, which is certainly not what his own experts are saying. on the economy, specifically, mr trump makes the suggestion as he has repeatedly that the stock market is in effect the economy which is plainly not true, what more on that? basically this is something he said before, we created the greatest economy in history before the pandemic struck. there is no doubt the economy was doing well under mr try before coronavirus, it was growing at an average of about 2.596 growing at an average of about 2.5% each year, but it had been growing well in the last three yea rs of growing well in the last three years of the 0bama administration, growing slightly slower but around 2.3% per year, and

slightly slower but around 2.3% peryear, and in slightly slower but around 2.3% per year, and in terms of growth, i think we have another graph we can show you, of economic growth in the us since 1950, there have clearly been periods when the economy was growing faster than it has done under growing faster than it has done undeertrump, not to growing faster than it has done under mr trump, not to say that he has not done or wasn't doing relatively well before the virus but they have been other periods of greater growth in relatively recent american history. mr trump has made it clear many times and he said he medically denied that he has many worries about the election, he is not necessarily prepared to accept the result, effectively discrediting the election, but he made what really i clutching claim. we will hear a lot about, about male in balance. it was eye—catching. millions of ballads all over the country, this will be a fraud like you have never seen, this will be a fraud like you have never seen, a this will be a fraud like you have never seen, a rigged election. sometimes amid the sound and fury need to step back from blizzard think this really is not normal, this is not what presidential candidates say stop anything

about male in ballots is they are not new, nearly a quarter of votes cast in the 2016 presidential election were cast by mail in ballots. the evidence around the country, a lot of states use a lot of mail in ballots, some of them using it exclusively and the result was no evidence anywhere of widespread voterfraud, was no evidence anywhere of widespread voter fraud, for example, the university of arizona, between 20 — 2012 to now, it found only 491 cases of postal ballot brought out of hundreds of thousands of. of course there are always minor frauds, wanted to people trying to do these things by the evidence that it will be a massive fraud on a scale never seen massive fraud on a scale never seen before, that evidence does not stack up. thank you very much indeed for that. laura trevelyan is our correspondent in cleveland.

taking further that point that chris just raised, the president quite explicitly from the stage urging his supporters to go into the polls and watch out, leaving aside everything chris has just said which out, leaving aside everything chris hasjust said which is extraordinary in itself. that will sound like a lot of people like an attempt to intimidate some people out of voting. of course the president last week refused to commit himself to a peaceful tra nsfer of refused to commit himself to a peaceful transfer of power. whoever won the election, so it is all of a piece with this, casting doubt on the integrity of the election and the fact is because of coronavirus, millions of americans have already requested absentee ballots because they don't want to stand in line and vote in person, and many states across america are enabling additional early voting whether it is in person early voting or allowing people to request additional absentee ballots, in the way

that they were not abnormally. the president is casting doubt on this whole enterprise by saying ominously, this is not going to end well, and making remarks like that. so, he is sowing the seeds for undermining a process which if he does not win, he will say it's fraudulent, which clearly could become extremely problematic. there were only 70 people in the actual room because of covid—19 restrictions but we were told about 100 million americans we re about 100 million americans were tuning into what. its many ha rd to were tuning into what. its many hard to believe that that many we re hard to believe that that many were thereby the and. it was so unpleasant and so little like we wanted. is there any possibility that other debates won't happen? i think there will happen because ifjoe biden were to back out because he said he didn't like the format, then president trump

would be able to say he was running scared. i suspect between now and the next debate both campaigns will complain about the rules that the moderatorfor about the rules that the moderator for the next debate will have to try to enforce more effectively, and at least everybody will be prepared going into next debate knowing that president trump is going to relent relentlessly attacked his deponent and talk over him during the two minutes allocated to him and all the rest of it, and by the end joe biden was doing what the president was doing as well, so my guess is that the debates will happen but there is a serious conversation about the rules and the enforcement of them. whatever your political allegiances, there was a sense that the president was very much haranguing joe biden but addressing joe biden, whereas clearly, joe biden had taken the decision to try to address the decision to try to address the american people directly through the camera. how did you feel that tactic, tone of voice that he adopted for it worked?

it was interesting, especially on the issue of coronavirus, joe biden made a direct appeal to the camera, talking to those americans who had an empty chair in the room, to the 200,000 families who have lost a loved one, so that was his tactic, to be direct, and the president wasn't badgering, bullying, interrupting, trying to throwjoe biden off his stride, and the question is for those very few people who have not decided how to vote, which approach were they more swayed by? my guess is the president's tea m by? my guess is the president's team would be disappointed they didn't do what he said he would do which was to outline his positivism for the next four yea rs, positivism for the next four years, because you did not hear much about. what you heard was a lot of trying to really throw mud atjoe biden and his record. laura, thank you very much indeed for that. lets speak now to the democratic

party specialist. good to talk to you. you may well feel this but certainly other commentators we spoke to suggest this selection could be won or lost not just suggest this selection could be won or lost notjust in those 11 key swing states which move between democratic and republican, but those were people who may have voted democratic in the past who simply did not vote in 2016 who could perhaps be induced to come out this time, obviously forjoe biden and kemal — kamala harris. this was a motivational experience for them the basis, the people who already know they are voting this motivated them, but this is not a persuasion election like it normally is, there are very few undecided voters, this is getting more people who support you or you can encourage to support you to actually vote, this is a election, get out and vote

election, get out and vote election, and that is all it is based on, and are already ten states are already voting, millions of ballots are already being cast in by mail, paper ballots, in person at machines across the country, so our election is already ongoing, and what effect this debate has on its tonight is, i think will hurt stride, with white women in the seniors, both were far more concerned and fearful about the pandemic than anything else i donald trump did nothing to persuade them tonight that he has a battle handle on it, — better and will start to see more and more and more wide voters, even white male voters in the suburbs, college—educated, start to peel off and go tojoe biden, i think that is what you are going to see in the coming weeks that are left in the selection, which is just weeks that are left in the selection, which isjust under five. is it possible that president trump scored a point where joe president trump scored a point wherejoe biden president trump scored a point where joe biden can't president trump scored a point wherejoe biden can't even see the words law and order, he cannot address the issue because he will lose his

radical left supporters, and clearly joe radical left supporters, and clearlyjoe biden has to feel he has to distance himself from the black lives matter protest, but if you were a voter who had been angered by the death of black citizens of the hands of police, who wanted action on social injustice and racism, do you think you would be motivated tonight to vote for either of those candidates? donald trump has tried to use law and order but it did not work in wisconsin, minnesota and oregon where we have had a number of incidents around that topic. if you listen tonight at some of the things donald trump said, he made an appeal to white nationalists, the greatest domestic terrorist threat in the country, according to the fbi, are these groups and the fact donald

trump inaudible voters than anything else, people think that could be better police reforms in place. joe biden has i was had the support of the police. but donald trump is trying to draw a very stark line, that is how he operates but it has not helped him in the polls. we may be getting ahead of ourselves but president trump moved us onto this ground, apparently trying to discredit the election, saying there would be widespread fraud and urged supporters to go into the polls and watch which would read it to many people of intimidation. is it the democratic party prepared for that kind of fight because you will also have a minority in the supreme court. the democratic party in this election has spent more time

putting together poll watchers and lawyers for that verified. let's go back to 2016 for a moment. donald trump said much the same thing. he is famous of doing the things he accuses others of doing. they are doing it again in this election and yet donald trump somehow is in the white house. we go through this process, you have to take seriously what donald trump says and he has spent more time tonight and in the last few weeks making the case that this election will be rigged than he did for himself and when you looked at what happened in lafayette square, in portland, 0regon, sadly those appeared to me to be dry runs for the kind of violence that could happen in the wake of this election which donald trump tonight said will not and well and could go

on for months. that is unprecedented as were his comments that he would not support a peaceful transition. no president in this country has ever said that before and he should certainly be the last one to do so. now to the former presidential director fort president trump. excuse me, i have done too much dog. i have people talking about president trump saying he hasjust lost every woman in america. votes from women living in the suburbs which every politician is chasing, do they go for someone is chasing, do they go for someone who appears to be pulling and interrupting? first of all, thank you for having me this evening or this morning. i do not think any woman would look at this debate and choose either of the candidates. it was a food fight, a demolition

derby. it did not offer anything to an undecided voter. at the end of the day, the previous speaker is right, this debate help stabilise the base form president trump but also form president trump but also for vice presidentjoe biden. he says he will not accept the results of the election and he could not lose the election and less it is read. it would not condemn white supremacist. he is not accepting the science of global change. that would worry people? we have heard donald trump also condemn the white supremacist. at least six times he has been asked this year and he has been asked this year and he has been asked this year and he has condemned them. when you look at the totality of his record, he is the politician who has most condemn white supremacist so i gather this

slipup will move some voters away. joe biden refusing to ta ke away. joe biden refusing to take possession under the supreme court, is truly a radical position, outside of the mainstream of america. actually more scary for the suburban woman than anything else. the do not want that change. they are on record saying they do not want the supreme court expanded. the right questions out of this but i thinkjoe biden would have created a question than he wa nted created a question than he wanted with respect to the position and regarding the radical left. you are skating on thin ice from a party who refused to accept barack 0bama's nominee much further out from an election. i was hoping to get elimination on this, the honest, could you outline president trump healthcare outline president trump healthca re plan? outline president trump healthcare plan? no. that is a

serious problem? healthcare plan? no. that is a serious problem ? yes healthcare plan? no. that is a serious problem? yes and no, at the end of the day, people are looking at 0bamaca re the end of the day, people are looking at 0bamacare and you have a lot of issues about what has taken place. i think the president has tried to a ticket a policy with respect to this healthcare policy. they have been numerous stories. you have the president acknowledging that change has to take place but at the end of the day if he does not have the republican support, that is a problem for the president. normally, when politicians run into something difficult and if they fail the first time, they would have onto another issue. voters will look at the president keep trying to fix something might bea trying to fix something might be a good thing as opposed to putting it under the rug. thank you very much indeed for

talking to us. laura trevelyan still in cleveland ohio. i think it is impossible question but i have to ask you, what headlines from that debate what message? the message is that it was chaotic, confusing, shouting and that it ended with the president casting doubt on the president casting doubt on the electoral process under way and suggesting it could end up in the supreme court. joe biden said he would abide by the result. the question is, did it change the dynamic of this race? president trump is behind by roughly 7— eight points in federal polls, much closer into the swing states. did any undecided voters get clarity? has the presidentjust made it about his conduct? do we have a

sense from it of what four more yea rs of sense from it of what four more years of president trump is make america would look like and what joe make america would look like and whatjoe biden's america would look like? well, that was a question but i think we have lost laura. we have a couple of other clips from the debate coming up but this is 34 days, five weeks till the election but many people voting already. 0ne but many people voting already. one point but many people voting already. 0ne point2 but many people voting already. one point 2 million we think. 0nly around 40% of voters are so 0nly around 40% of voters are so far undecided. —— 0nly around 40% of voters are so far undecided. “14%. the during the debate, donald trump brought up the issue of hunter biden's issue in the ukraine. the mayor of moscow gave you son of $3.5 billion. what did he do to deserve it? what did

you do with burisma... crosstalk. none of that is true. mr president, please make totally discredited. he did not get $3.5 million? it is not true. mr president, mr president, it is an open discussion... it is a fact. let the vice president answer. crosstalk. with no experience in energy? my son did nothing wrong with burisma. it is hard to get any wedding with this clown, excuse me, this president. you get a pretty clear flavour. moderated president. you get a pretty clearflavour. moderated in a fashion by chris wallace but many saying the moderators will be looking at that and taking

notes and thinking, how do i handle that. we are told millions of americans were watching but it is hard to believe as many kept watching. 34 days, five weeks until the election on november third many people voted already. we think 1.2 million. the polls suggest 40% of voters art so far undecided. ——14 %. that is it for now. much more on the bbc website and twitter feed. hello there. most parts of the country enjoyed some sunshine on tuesday — temperatures reached 21 celsius in kent. today, though, we are going to find cooler and wetter weather arriving across the uk, and sunshine will be in short supply.

and that's because all this cloud has been massing out in the atlantic and is now starting to stream in, and these weather fronts are bringing with it some outbreaks of rain that will push their way eastwards steadily through the day. now, ahead of that rain, it's a milder start to the morning. temperatures in double figures in most areas. but the winds could be quite strong and gusty through the irish sea first thing, and we have got a wet start to the day across many western areas. some early brightness perhaps across eastern england, but the rain will push steadily eastward through the day. some heavier rain over some of the western hills. and while some western areas may well turn a bit brighter in the afternoon, there will still be some heavy showers around as well — so not a straightforward clea ra nce. temperatures will be lower — 14 degrees in scotland, northern ireland, highest temperatures in the southeast before that rain sets in from mid afternoon onwards. that rain does then move away overnight. that weather front takes the rain into the north sea. then behind that, the air gets cooler. so, temperatures will be lower still, i think, on thursday.

maybe still quite damp in the northeast of scotland for a while, there will be some sunny spells elsewhere, some showers likely to break out, particularly across more southern and western parts of england and into wales, perhaps into northern ireland as well. the winds will be lighter, there will be some sunshine at times, but the air is still on the cold side with temperatures only 12—15 degrees on thursday despite the sunshine. as we move things into friday, where we have got the threat of some heavier rain coming into southern parts of the uk, together with some strengthening winds, gales, possibly even severe gales as well. looks a bit drier and less windy as you head northwards into scotland and northern ireland, but it's still on the chilly side. some uncertainty as we head into friday and into the weekend as well, because we've got a potentially rather nasty area of low pressure, and essentially over the weekend, we are going to find low pressure dominating right the way across the uk. so the weekend forecast doesn't look particularly appealing. it's going to remain on the chilly side, there will be a lot of cloud around, some strong winds and some rain at times.

this is bbc news with the latest headlines for viewers in the uk and around the world. i'm maryam moshiri. donald trump and joe biden clash during bad—tempered and chaotic exchanges in the first televised presidential debate. i'm not going to the answer the question. why would you answer the question? the question is. would you shut up man? mr trump was challenged to reveal how much he paid in income tax after he new york times said he'd paid just $750 when he became president four years ago. will you tell us how much you paid in federal income taxes in 2016 and 2017? millions of

dollars. you