good morning — welcome to breakfast with charlie stayt and mega munchetty. our headlines today: the mp who travelled from london to scotland despite knowing she had covid—19, faces mounting pressure to resign sturgeon. president donald trump and the first lady go into quarantine after one of his closest aides tests positive for coronavirus. new coronavirus measures come

into place tonight in the north of england meaning a quarter of the uk's population will be living under tight restrictions. where there is marked, there is power. this farmers using manure to turn into biofuel. i will explain how it all works little later. sam burgess is under investigation in australia after a newspaper article accuses him of domestic violence, and he says the allegations are false. taking action against the impact of motor neurone disease — we join the family of rugby league star rob burrow on their latest challenge to raise funds to tackle the condition. the weather is going to bring some disruption of the next few days, storm alex bringing strong winds and heavy rain for southern england and wales. more parts of the uk to turn wet and windy tomorrow. details through the morning.

president trump has just tweeted to say that he and his wife have tested positive. we knew they were both in quarantine after having come into contact with one of his key aides but also tested positive. he also said he will begin his quarantine recovery process immediately. he has said, we will get through this together. that is the latest news from donald trump. we will keep you updated throughout the morning. pressure is mounting on the mp margaret ferrier to resign after she admitted travelling by train from london to scotland after receiving a positive coronavirus test. pressure is mounting on the mp margaret ferrier to resign after she admitted travelling by train from london to scotland after receiving a positive coronavirus test. her actions have been described as "utterly indefensible" by first minister nicola sturgeon.

ms ferrier has been suspended from the snp. our political correspondent helen catt reports. i'd like to start by paying tribute to all nhs key workers and volu nteers to all nhs key workers and volunteers in my constituency for the account and commit it over the last seven months. this was margaret ferrier speaking in the house of commons as an snp mp on monday evening. she has now been suspended from the party are growing calls for her to quit parliament entirely. why? it's because of what she did in the hours before and after that speech. on saturday afternoon, she sewed some symptoms of coronavirus and took a test in scotland. she should have self isolated but on monday, she travelled to london, saying she felt that up. on monday evening in westminster, a result came back positive. on tuesday morning, despite a legal duty to self isolated, she travelled back to the west of scotland on a train. last night she released a state and saying she apologised unreservedly for breaching coronavirus

restrictions by travelling when she shouldn't have and there was no excuse for her actions. labour have said what she did was reckless and makes are unfit for public office. former scottish conservative leader ruth davidson said she should go. she should resign, she should not be an mp at all and if she had a shred of decency, she would. crucially her former snp colleagues aren't backing her either. first minister nicola sturgeon said her actions were utterly indefensible and it was hard to express how angry she felt. other snp mps suggested resign. her position is unattainable. she should resign? there is very strict public health guidance and if a member of parliament can't do that, she should reflect her position. ms ferrier has not responded to those calls. earlier this year she was critical of boris johnson's earlier this year she was critical of borisjohnson‘s a dominic cummins. will the cabinet office, by mrcoming.

cummins. will the cabinet office, by mr coming. they are looking into the circumstances around ms ferrier‘s journeys. margaret ferrier lost her seatin journeys. margaret ferrier lost her seat in 2017 and returned to westminster a year ago. leila nathoo is in westminster for us this morning. leila, margaret ferrier‘s actions have caused outrage across the political divide and from within her own party. can she keep herjob after this? i think she is under huge pressure this morning. she has lost the support of her now former colleagues in the snp, police are looking into her actions in the circumstances around the case. not only has she put those on the trains she travelled on at risk, and those in parliament but her breach will be seen as parliament but her breach will be seen as undermining, she said that she regrets her actions, but if you

remember at the start of the pandemic, mps travelling across the country, potentially bringing the virus year or taking the virus back. it will be seen as a particularly serious situation. she travelled on public transport. once she had a positive test. she did know about the positive test on wednesday. one person in the commons is now self—isolating as a result but i think you heard her being critical they are dominic cummings, the prime minister ‘s advisor when he travelled across the country during lockdown. clearly some accusations of but at a time when we are all being urged to follow the guidance and the rules for everyone's sake, most people would expect those in parliament to set an example. thank you very much.

president donald trump has said he and the first lady have tested positive for coronavirus. this just in the last ten minutes. saying, we will begin oui’ ten minutes. saying, we will begin our quarantine and recovery process immediately. he was referring last night, the tweet came through, hope hicks, he had tested positive and thatis hicks, he had tested positive and that is when he had the test results for him and his wife. peter bowes, as we speak, the situation was that they were in quarantine. this is a dramatic development. this is a huge

development. the president of the united states. they have now tested positive for the coronavirus. there isa positive for the coronavirus. there is a lot we don't know. what level of the disease they are experiencing. what we do know from the experience of everyone else but suffered from coronavirus is this won't be a quick process in terms of quarantine and the recovery, this is a man in his 70s. he is known to be overweight. he has some of those conditions that the experts say make it more difficult to recover from coronavirus. that's not to say he isn't going to make a full recovery but coming almost a month before polling day, and a full schedule of events that it seems at the moment, the president will be unable to carry out any of those engagements. clearly that isn't going to happen

ata clearly that isn't going to happen at a rally. there is a huge question mark over the rest of the campaign and possibly over the election process itself. gives a bit of background. what we did know is that hope is, one of his closest advisers, had tested positive. that's why they were in quarantine. it was announced by media outlets, president trump is self in another tweeter confirmed. hope hicks had in fa ct tweeter confirmed. hope hicks had in fact turned out to be positive for the coronavirus. he said that was terrible and when he first revealed that he and the first lady had gone into quarantine, we know that hope this is one of the credit —— president's closest adviser, in a circle, former communications chief, she went out to work in the private sector for a she went out to work in the private sectorfor a while she went out to work in the private sector for a while and then returned to this close adviser amongst many others. she travels a lot with him,

twice in the last few days, to minnesota. on tuesday night. she was pa rt minnesota. on tuesday night. she was part of the president's entourage. she travelled on his fight. she was in close proximity to him and other key figures. the white house said earlier contract tastes —— contact tracing was being utilised and people are being informed. people will be tuning in to us this morning. without that converse -- confirmation the last few minutes, president trump tweeting that both he and his wife have tested positive for coronavirus. we understand from the white house doctor, donald trump will carry out his duties without disruption. i know you are trying to

dojust this at disruption. i know you are trying to do just this at the same time as we are. there will immediately be concerns for him personally about his health. that is primarily a health story about him and there are so many implications as to how this will affect the process. when you say that, i think immediately of borisjohnson, carrying out his duties. he will be attempting to carry out his duties, similar situation in the white house, with the president in isolation but still trying to run the country. it seems to be what they are saying at the moment but it is very early days and we have to see how the disease affects him, how the positive diagnosis affects him, what sort of treatment he gets. peter, what we know about the testing. how much testing was don —— done with trump's

closest advisers and individuals? do we know what precautions were being taken? the president would say he was testing frequently. it could be every day and those around him, those passed visitors from overseas and governors visiting from washington could be tested, and he talked about this on numerous occasions. he oftenjustified his attitude towards measures from the coronavirus by wearing a mask and social distancing, saying, i've been tested and i'm ok, and those around me are ok. that was an attitude that was much criticised and very often, donald trump would say things that really blew in the face of what is medical advisers and experts on the coronavirus task force were saying, about how americans should behave but were all seen the rallies, that

president trump has attended, with an audience largely not wearing masks, not social distancing and the president taking the lead in that kind of casual attitude. we're getting a more information. the white house doctor is saying both president trump and melania, they are both well and we understand the information we are receiving, the first lady and president will quarantine in the white house. there are implications around how they will proceed. donald trump will carry out duties without disruption during quarantine. this is often the white house doctor. in the white

house, we can only assume that is the private quarters, this is the home where the president lives, there was some sort of quarantine arrangement within those private quarters. not putting people at risk in the west wing. he won't be going presumably into the oval office where he holds his meetings. from the white house doctors you are quoting, it seems to be that it's possible for the president to carry out his duties from what i assume other private quarters in the white house but what he won't be able to do is get out of the white house and that's what the president likes doing and this is an election period. that's the big question in terms of perhaps the country continuing to run. congress will be involved in that as well. what happens injust involved in that as well. what happens in just over five weeks' time when americans are due to go to the polls? will that happen without any campaigning by president trump? is there any measure that can delay

the election? these are all questions as close advisers will be thinking of. peter, for the moment, thank you very much. just confirmation if you'rejoining us this morning. in the last ten minutes, president trump has tweeted to say that both he and his wife have tested positive for coronavirus. they are both well, according to this white house doctor, and mr trump will carry out duties without disruption during quarantine, although it has now emerged that the white house has decided to remove the florida campaign trip from president trump's schedule, understandably so as they are both isolating. that story new to us here this morning. we will keep you updated on all developments. a complete ban on different

households meeting indoors is being extended to a wider area of northern england from midnight tonight, to try and stop the spread of coronavirus. the extra restrictions will apply to the liverpool city region, which includes st helens and wirral, and also to warrington, hartlepool and middlesbrough. by this weekend, a quarter of the uk's population will be under some form of local restrictions. the eu has begun legal proceedings against the uk after it refused to shelve plans to override sections of its brexit divorce deal. talks are also closing in brussels today after a week of post—brexit negotiations. prime minister borisjohnson has said both sides should move on if a deal was not reached by mid—october. now the weather with sarah. it's been gusty and blowy, and definitely a change in temperature, and those guys behind you don't look pretty. yes, some disruptive weather on the

cards over the next couple of days, i'm afraid. things really autumnal out there, certainly. spells of heavy rain at times for the next few days. do expect some disruption to transport and travel. flooding is possible and we have some strong winds as well as that heavy rain. today's weather is courtesy of storm alex, which was named by the french map service. it's bringing the strongest of the winston northwest france. there's already been a gust of 160 mph. but france. there's already been a gust of160 mph. but we france. there's already been a gust of 160 mph. but we could see gusts of 160 mph. but we could see gusts of around 65, possibly 70 mph at the strongest. —— to the west and north—west france. up to wales, the north midlands by the afternoon. for the northern half of the uk, a different feeling day. quite a cold start with some mist and fog patches. some showers into scotland and northern ireland at times, but most and northern ireland at times, but m ost pla ces and northern ireland at times, but most places remaining largely dry with a good deal of sunshine.

temperatures across the uk between 12 and 15, but particularly wet and windy the further south you are. this evening and tonight we keep those windy conditions with further rain piling on across much of england and wales. towards the north—west, some clearer, conditions. a cold start to friday saturday. saturday will bring heavy rain thickly consistent parts of england. a little dry either northern ireland and blustery showers for many of us into sunday as well. thanks very much. we will see you later. the welsh nationalist party plaid cymru is holding its first ever digital conference, and hopes to spell out the party's vision for wales. it comes as more than three quarters of the population find themselves under stricter coronavirus measures. we can speak now to the party leader adam price. good morning, mr price. thank you for your time. we are in extraordinary times, annual conference being held digitally, of course, remotely, and so much of

wales, both north and south, are under special measures. what is your message today? well, we are focusing principally of course about the future. many of us are thinking about the kind of society that we wa nt to about the kind of society that we want to become as we hopefully will emerge out of this pandemic. looking at the may election next year. the pandemic has shone a light on some deep cracks in our society that were already there. they had been there for decades, but they were brought to the fore. the poverty and inequality, the housing crisis, the underfunding and undervaluing of our ca re underfunding and undervaluing of our care sector — those are the problems that we need to solve, and that's the positive message. we need a bit of optimism at this very difficult time, and building back is a phrase that we hear a lot. let's take that opportunity that the may election

represents to solve these problems, not tinker around the edges but transform wales into the kind of decent society i think we could become. given the problems people are facing with the immediate issues around health but also, i suppose, the trickle—down problems of the economy and the very real worries about employment, what appetite do you think there is for your message right now when you are concentrating on things that possibly people feel area on things that possibly people feel are a little further away, certainly in the middle distance if not the far distance? certainly we have to deal with the immediate crisis, and there are two aspects of that. we are on a very worrying, critical phase of the pandemic now as we are caught in the second wave. what we've said, the welsh government, is we've said, the welsh government, is we are supportive generally of their policy, which has been much more cautious than the flip—flopping message we've seen at times from the westminster government, and it's important that they don't hesitate

to act quickly if necessary, and that's what we learn from the early phase of the virus. we were too slow into lockdown, too quick to give up testing and tracing. we've got to solve the testing and the system. u nfortu nately we a re solve the testing and the system. unfortunately we are locked into the uk lighthouse lab system that is failing and wales as it is in the rest of the uk at the moment. we've got to build up capacity — well solutions to welsh problems. that's the answer now and it's the answer in the future as well. minister, you are still holding out for independence — that's what your party stands for. is this the right time, given the climate we are in at the moment in relation to all these things, for that message? do you think they will want to hear that message right now? that's interesting, because the public are driving the conversation around independence. we've seen a surge of support, even during this pandemic. we have some polls saying even a

majority of labour supporters now support independence. why is that happening? it's because the contrast between the weights government, which generally know they haven't got everything right, but generally there's been approval for their kind of approach. —— welsh government. many people are thinking, i'm glad i live in wales and have a welsh government compared to the shambolic vacuum of leadership we've had from westminster. many people are thinking, well, if we can get this right, if wales can show what it has done under the pressure of this global pandemic, how good would that look if we applied it to all of the areas of public policy? we've been much better at providing solutions to the problems we've had for so long. a third of our children living in poverty — that's the legacy we've inherited. but it doesn't have to be that way. that's the positive message. there's no problem in wales cannot solve. thank you for your time this morning. in the last 20 minutes, we've just had the news

that donald trump, the president of the united states, he and the first lady have tested positive for covid—19, and they are both going to immediately quarantine and begin the recovery process . immediately quarantine and begin the recovery process. he has tweeted, we will get through this. just looking at a series of tweets that have emerged this morning, a white house doctor is saying that donald trump can carry out his duties without disruption, and also, just on the issue of his health, the white house doctor tweeted that the first lady and donald trump, the quote is, they are both well. that story just quote is, they are both well. that storyjust coming in on the last 20 minutes. they will be quarantining within the white house, and donald trump, according to his white house doctor and the agency aap — they are well, but we understand the upcoming florida campaign has been postponed.

farmers are looking at different ways to use what they've got so things are better for the environment. we've sent ben to a dairy farm to find out how they're converting the waste to fuel. morning, ben. tell us more. good morning. that is not me, butjust some of the 150 cows down on the farm here in winslow in bucks. you might say that farmers struggle for two things. one is time, one is money. what they are doing is part of a trial is to turn the waste that this lot produce into biofuel to power stuff like this. the idea is that they will turn that manure into the field that delivers the milk. the idea is that it turns into power to keep the trucks moving, all part of a trial that will involve a number of farms across the country. just two doing it at the moment, but there is potential for thousands up and down

the country. ian is the farmer here. good morning. you've got 150 cows here. that's a lot of waste. how much do you produce? roughly the size of an olympic swimming pool every year, so quite a lot of waste. talk me through how this will work. the idea is that you will collect all that manure. what happens then? it's taken to an anaerobic digester plant nearby where it's put through a process where they extract the methane. the methane then goes on to make a biofuel to run those lorries. the end product from that process is called digestate, which i spread on my land. it's a very natural occurring fertiliser, so we are hoping the fertiliser in the spring will replace what we've had in the slurry pit that we would have used otherwise. you've talked about methane. the problem is that farming is quite carbon intensive. there is

a big carbon footprint. by reducing that you could not only reduce your carbon footprint but also hopefully save money on fertiliser you would normally buy. the carbon footprint would be dramatically reduced. also with me reducing my fertiliser requirements, we are approximately thinking about half the requirement needed, we are going to save our carbon footprint there, so my individual business, the carbon footprint will be dramatically reduced. and save time and money as well, because normally it would involve you having to collect this stuff, put it in a big silo at all that sort of thing. the contractors will do all that for us. we will not be running the men, the machinery. the contractors have got up—to—date technical machinery that put it on precision farming. it could potentially save you that time and money. really nice to see you. we will talk more a little later. as i say, just part of a trial, this one. two farms across the country are

currently looking at how it will work. but it sort of makes sense — there's a lot of waste produced, and if you can use it to reduce your carbon footprint and maybe save a bit of money, as we touched on, a really tough industry to be on — margins are tight, especially when it comes to things like selling milk, so any opportunity to save a bit of time and money and put a bit of this to good use might be one a nswer to of this to good use might be one answer to that carbon footprint problem. more from me a little later. i'll see you soon. i really am enjoying that very direct message on the back of that truck that we saw earlier as well! sorry, say again? it does what it says on the tin. that's exactly it! thank you very much. time now to get the news, travel and weather where you are. good morning from bbc london.

london hospitals have devised a new strategy to keep non—covid patients safe, even if the capital sees a huge second surge of cases. hospitals across london are looking to create dedicated hubs where non—covid patients will receive routine elective treatments and operations. the purpose is to avoid adding to the already huge backlog of patients waiting for elective treatments such as hip and knee replacements, cataract surgery or kidney stone removal. there are questions over the future of the bakerloo line extension, after the huge project was left off a list of priorities for govenrnment funding. the proposals would see the tube line extend to lewisham. but it's effectively been postponed after transport for london didn't include it in a revised list of project priorities seeking centralfunding. it's because they are being realistic about what is affordable over the next decade, though tfl said the extension was not on hold. the london marathon is going ahead virtually on sunday, and one person who has been training hard over lockdown is aaron plummer,

who has cerebral palsy and learning difficulties. running for the charity mencap in his local area in walthamstow, aaron has been using a mixture of boxing, intensity training and cycling to get race ready, but his passion for running has really allowed him to focus. get out of there, get out there. i could switch off and think about running, and! could switch off and think about running, and i loved it. i love running. let's take a look at the travel situation now. one lane is closed westbound between the polish war memorial and hillingdon circus due to a burst water main. on the m25 there is heavy traffic clockwise through the roadworks

between junction 5 at sevenoaks and clacket lane services. now the weather with elizabeth rizzini. good morning. wet and windy at times over the next few days. there is a office weather warning in place for the southern counties for heavy rain and strong winds. this is from storm alex, which will be pushing northwards as we had through this morning. tricky travelling conditions for this morning's rush hour. strong gusts of wind at times and lots of surface water, but it moves northwards and should dry out into the afternoon. watch out for a few showers as we had through the second half of the afternoon. overnight, there is a separate system brimming that's going to give someone a heavy downpours into saturday morning. there's a met office weather warning for the whole weekend across the capital, and this is for heavy rain. expect some further heavy downpours, particularly on saturday morning. saturday afternoon does look a bit

drier and brighter, but watch out for some showers. there will be more salary outbreaks on sunday. i'm back with the latest from the bbc london newsroom in half an hour. plenty more on our website at the usual address. go there hello — this is breakfast with charlie stayt and naga munchetty. donald trump and first lady melania trump have confirmed they have coronavirus. they said they will begin their quarantine recovery process immediately. the message came out literally 25, 30 minutes ago. let us speak to us political a nalyst ago. let us speak to us political analyst eric hamm in washington. this information coming to all of us in the last half—hour. what we did know, just after midnight here in

the uk, the president had gone into quarantine. because his advisor had tested positive. hope hicks. now we have this positive test. it's a dramatic development. tell us what you know. that's right, it is. we are being told that hope hicks had been experiencing symptoms for the last 2a hours so she was tested, and now we are learning that the president himself as well as the first lady have now contracted the virus. we don't know at this time at the president or the first lady are experiencing simple rims. he had been told they will continue to work from the residence where they will be quarantined. this throws so much into chaos, with the election 33 days away, but also that the vice president mike pence is scheduled to

debate the vice presidential democratic anomaly kamala harris this week so there are so many questions about what will happen and what this means for the president as commander—in—chief. what this means for the president as commander-in-chief. eric, this is obviously a breaking story. sean connko obviously a breaking story. sean connolly is the white house doctor and he is saying is well and will continue to perform his duties without disruption while quarantining. clearly there are a lot of questions about procedure and what happens next. there will be many questions about how that works. cani many questions about how that works. can i comment on the president's health. the president has coronavirus. given his age, and a lot of people will be worried about his own physical condition while suffering from this coronavirus.

tell is a little more about that. this is a very concerning issue because we are talking about a man who is 7a years old. we also know the president is technically obese. given this age group is particularly vulnerable to this virus as well as his health, this is potentially going to be very problematic stop we also have to go back to when the president at one time, this was some months ago, the president abruptly went to the walter reed medical centre and of course, we do not know what transpired, why the president had to abruptly go to walter reed medical centre. we were told this was because it was part of the president's treatment, but there was no additional detail about that so you wonder if what is in place then

we'll have some impact on the resident's ability to ward off this virus. we will be looking at this and also, we remember when the president spoke at the military academies and graduation where he looked very weak and was unable to walk down that flight of stairs, and so clearly there have been questions around the president's health, and now that he has contracted the virus, his ability to ward off is something that we will certainly be watching very closely. first and foremost, it's a concern over his health initially and then we got onto the issue of all the implications of what this means, with the election itselfjust a short time away. the president has been trailing in the polls. we've been trailing in the polls. we've been getting polling data since that presidential debate 48 hours ago were it looks as though presidential debate 48 hours ago were it looks as thouthoe biden is

expanding his lead. and also the president had to rallies scheduled for the battleground state of wisconsin. it's highly unlikely the president will participate in those rallies. remember also, millions president will participate in those rallies. rememberalso, millions of americans are voting early as well. we cannot discount the fact that the president has downplayed this virus, the president has said this is something that is going away, the president has spoken about it in terms that suggest it's not as serious as many see, and we're talking about more than 200,000 people who have died from this virus and now, president donald trump himself has contracted this, and you wonder how that will play with his supporters. and millions of americans who are now already voting. clearly this is going to have an impact on the outcome of this rate —— race.

have an impact on the outcome of this rate -- race. i want to share with you on our audience, we are getting little pieces of information, this is from sean connko information, this is from sean connolly who is positioned to the president. he is saying, with the permission of president donald trump and first lady, "i received confirmation that they have tested positive." he goes on to say, "the president and first lady are both well, they plan to remain at home in the white house during co nvalescence, the white house during convalescence, "and says, "the white house medical team and i will keep a vigilant watch, we appreciate the support across the country and i rest assured that the president will carry out his duties without disruption while recovering and will keep you updated on any future developments. " reality is, from this moment on, there will be every minute, every hour, every day, the

us population, no matter their politics, will want to know the condition of the president and this has worldwide implications as well, of course. absolutely. talking about the president of the united states is now contracted this deadly virus, the virus that is killed almost a million people across the go —— globe. more than 7 million people in this country alone have been impacted by the virus. we do not other leaders across the globe have contracted the virus. president bolsonaro of brazil, and he took a very cavalier project to battling the virus much like donald trump. the question of course will be can president donald trump bounce back from this. it's also important to note the president has contracted this virus, and we know that very few people are wearing these masks. it's not a very large space when you're talking about a working space. another president's as

secretary, often times in contact with the president, is question becomes, how many other people have come in contact with the president who may have contracted this virus. and what does that the people who engage in a daily basis with someone like kayleigh mcenernay and we must remember donald trump was in ohio, only people in that state to become in contact with. this is now an issue that is certainly going to explode on the question will be, how will this administration that oftentimes is not willing to provide transparent information, and much of to provide, how open are they going to provide, how open are they going to be about the president's prognosis and he and the first lady

are dealing with this virus. we will be watching this. again, in the middle of a presidential election. this is going to be something that certainly has upended the domestic political landscape as well as the global landscape. i'm just looking at some of the tweets. literally in the last few minutes, melania trump has tweeted, as too many americans have done this year, president trump andi have done this year, president trump and i are quarantining after testing positive for covid—19. we are feeling good, this is from melania trump, andi feeling good, this is from melania trump, and i have postponed all upcoming engagements. please be sure you are staying safe and well, we will all get through this together. it's possibly the first indication, no surprise, cancelling all engagements. they are in quarantine now. this is going to have an

impact. florida is one of the most popular states. that could determine the outcome. we know the governor of florida. we also know that this is an avid supporter of president donald trump. as well as the first lady, have contracted this deadly virus, will many of these states led by these republican governors, will they now take a more vigilant and cautious approach to combating this virus or will they continue to operate in a manner that suggests it's not as serious as we suggest it has become. will the president's own views on this virus now change.

there was a new york times report earlier today that said president donald trump is singularly one of the biggest tools of disinformation on this virus is another question will be will this change. so there is so much looking for, so much now that many are looking to the president for, not only in terms of his health, and the administration and the trajectory of the nation, but also will deadly a dramatic seachange in how this administration as well as the help agencies that the president directs, will they now begin to look at this virus very differently? eric, we will leave it there now. political analyst eric hamm speaking to us. let's speak to our gp, who today is dr william bird, in berkshire. you would have woken up as we have this morning with this news, many of our viewers have, the president trump has tested hot —— positive

covid—19 has begun his quarantine process and he has said, "in the recovery process and we will get through this together." one point brought up just then was his age, 74. how significant is that and also that as eric hamm said he is technically obese? how will that play out? thank you. both his age and his weight and also his attitudes on exercises well are all going to count against him. so for the age certainly, at 74, he is at increased risk considerably. but his weight, 110 kilograms, is six foot four and his weight, 110 kilograms, is six foot fourand his bmi, weight, 110 kilograms, is six foot four and his bmi, which was last taken four and his bmi, which was last ta ken publicly last year four and his bmi, which was last taken publicly last year in february 2019 makes a bmi of 30.4, it's obese. he has got those two. and he

is on physical activity. he was saying that he felt like he was a battery that had just expended, he has honestly not been active in all of those things, three of those things work together to affect the immune system. what is particularly at risk is the immune system going into this overdrive on day 7— day ten. the initial symptoms are very much like the flu. you get the cough, you get temperature, you feel pretty rotten, you get that horrible chest tightness and shortness of breath. that can be variable from nothing to quite severe and then a day seven, the innate immune system ta kes day seven, the innate immune system takes over and that's when you get the real problems affected by age and obesity. we wouldn't really be seeing the full picture for at least another week or possibly two weeks. can we be clear about some of the comments, we talked to eric hamm, political analyst, and was talking

about how donald trump has been very vocal about so treat and preventions and medical usage. injuly, president trump defended the use of hydroxychloroquine to ward off coronavirus and contradicted his only is —— his own public health officials, its malaria medication, it was rejected. at the moment, what is the treatment in terms of medicine that he will now be administered? the hydroxichloroquine was thought to be great to start with. then all the trials showed it wasn't good and in some cases did harm. it's used for arthritis and malaria, but certainly it didn't seem to work here. what we do know of course is dexamethasone works, but only with patients that are very, very ill, patients that are very, very ill, patients on icu that have been

ventilated. before that there really isn't anything of help at all. you ta ke isn't anything of help at all. you take your normal paracetamol to try and take your temperature down, you drink plenty of fluids, but there isn't anything that which is very much geared up to helping get through the virus, which is specific to covid, and therefore he will be told to rest, he will be told to isolate, and each of the symptoms will be coming through. he'll have his oxygen levels taken if he starts to get shortage of breath, and they may have to do chest x—rays as well if he starts to a really bad cough, because you can get pneumonia on top of that. but these are all quite severe. for the majority of people it's really just fluids severe. for the majority of people it's reallyjust fluids and paracetamol. always good to talk to you. thanks for reacting to that news we heard 45 minutes ago. doctor william byrd, one of the regular gps we talk to. the news throughout the start of this alan tudge at six o'clock we understood president donald trump and his wife, the first lady, melania trump, have tested

positive for the covid—19 virus, and they are both well, planning to remain at home and they are withdrawing from with duties as they isolate and coalesce. —— convalesce. we've been following the story of rob burrow here on breakfast — he's the former professional rugby league player who was diagnosed with motor neurone disease. there's currently no cure for the condition — which is why his family and friends have been fundraising to support his treatment and that of others. rob enjoyed a successful career playing for england, and for the leeds rhinos, where he won eight super league titles over 16 years. butjust before christmas last year, his career was cut short by mnd, which affects his brain and nervous system. rob, who's 38, now requires round the clock care. fundraising efforts to help his family with his treatment have so far raised more than £235,000 and rob hopes to raise awareness of the condition too. sally met up with his wife and eldest daughter as they took on one particular challenge for rob.

looking forward to it. yeah. for lindsay and macy burrow, a challenge lies ahead. a bit nervous, now i've seen it. the first one. but we'll do it. macy is eight years old, and she is hoping to get to the top of the first peak, penny gent. is hoping to get to the top of the first peak, penny gentlj is hoping to get to the top of the first peak, penny gent. i think i'll be fine. lindsay is hoping to com plete be fine. lindsay is hoping to complete all three, a distance of more than 24 miles. she wants to finish the challenge in less than ten hours. robert actually had a bet with me saying you won't do it. you've not done any training. how am i supposed to when i've got three children, i'm working from home and i've got you to look after? a couple

of hours later, it is smiles all round. everybody has made it up the first of the peaks, even rob's sister, jo. he'll probablyjust laughed. we've got loads of photos so laughed. we've got loads of photos so he'll laugh at me, because i am on the ground. i think he'll be proud, because i don't even think he thought i'd do one. he is so strong. he is an inspiration, so to put myself through that is nothing compared to what he is going through. so yes, i kept thinking of rob all the time. a third of people with mnd die within a year, more than half within two years of diagnosis. rob and his family are determined to do all they can to help fund research and find a cure. it's cold again. at first it were nice and easy, but then it got a bit harder, because you are on your hands and knees. it were really

hard. not really hard, but you know what i mean? i feel like daddy's going to be really proud of me. rob has arrived to congratulate his daughter, macy, and his sister, jo. duddy, guess what? i did it. well done. you wouldn't have thought i'd have done that, would you? no way. i did it with 12 million breaks. she did it with 12 million breaks. she did it, and she should be proud. going to be snug in a rug. lindsay is exhausted. the thought of one man is exhausted. the thought of one man is keeping her going. and at the end, from somewhere, she finds the energy to run. we ran probably the last quarter of a mile. as we were coming down the hill, i saw macy and mia, so it was great to see them, and also seeing rob there. the first

one, all the kids ran. we were on our hands and knees. think of the third one! exhausted. never again. how proud are you of your family? third one! exhausted. never again. how proud are you of your family7m was just such an emotional time, i think, for both of us. for rob to be there and supporting myself and family and friends doing it was really nice. at the end of a long day, they have conquered the yorkshire three peaks, but for this family, the challenge isn't over. if you, or someone you know has been affected by the issues raised this morning, you can find help and support on the bbc‘s actionline website, at bbc.co.uk/actionline. did you notice the moon last night? the skies were being illuminated by a harvest moon.

it's the first of two full moons this october, and it gets its name from being the closest full moon to the autumn equinox, which was traditionally around harvest time in the northern hemisphere. the second full moon in october will appear on halloween and it's called a blue moon because it's the second full moon to occur in a single calendar month. i never knew that was why it was called a harvest moon. ijust knew there was a song, i think. sarah, good morning. how are you? yes, our weather watchers were out capturing that. we had some clear skies overnight, but not everywhere is in clear skies today. we got the cloud and rain are moving infrom clear skies today. we got the cloud and rain are moving in from the south, and some pretty disruptive weather on the cards over the next few days. today storm alex with us, bringing spells of heavy rain particularly in the south. over the next few days we could have disruption to travel and transport. some flooding problems with that heavy rain and strong winds that time too. the worst of that weather will be across southern parts of

britain. it was named by the french met service. the strongest of the winds are across the north—west of france. there have been gusts of 160 mph. they won't be quite as strong across the uk, but still 60, perhaps 70 mph gusts down towards the channel islands and the south coast, very windy as well. heavy rain is pushing its way slowly north across southern england towards the midlands, north wales, by the end of the afternoon, followed by sunshine and showers working in from the south, but that rain will be particularly heavy over higher ground in the west, and there could be some flooding. a very different day across the northern half of the uk. a cold and clear start here, and a touch of frost and fogginess first thing. that should clear away. lots of dry and bright weather to be seen. heavy showers across the far north—west of scotland and a few showers for northern ireland in the northern isles as well, but some sunshine elsewhere across scotland and much of northern england today. 12 to 15 degrees, but watch out for all that rain and those strong winds

in the south. as we had through this evening and we will have more wind rain piling on across england and wales. quite a brisk easterly wind and dusty conditions towards the south—west. clear skies for the north—west of the uk, so temperatures here getting down into single figures, but for the rest of us, it's a mild, fairly wetand windy start to your weekend. saturday will bring quite a bit of rain initially across england and wales, eastern scotland is wealthy and that rain. during the afternoon, particularly windy for wales, the south—west of england, combined with further heavy spells of rain. a lot of rainfor further heavy spells of rain. a lot of rain for the east of the pennines, eastern parts of highland scotla nd pennines, eastern parts of highland scotland as well, so some flooding possible, but it will dry out for the south—eastern for northern ireland as well. some drier conditions on the cards. into the second half of the weekend, low pressure roads across the weekend on sunday. heavy showers driving around that area low pressure. gales around the peripheries of the uk with some sunny spells and scattered blustery

downpours elsewhere. there could still be some flooding problems with those rainfall totals mounting up particularly across parts of scotla nd particularly across parts of scotland by the time we get to sunday. a bit of brightness around, but over the next few days all of us will see some spells of rain. some strong wind today, especially in the south. thanks very much for that. we will speak to you later. we've had news from six o'clock that the president of the united states, donald trump, has tested positive for covid—19. he and his wife, melania trump, are now isolating in the white house. let's just take you through the sequence of events. what we knew earlier this morning was that donald trump and melania had both gone into quarantine. hope x is one of his closest advisers who had been working closely with him and had tested positive for covid—19 —— hope

hopehicks. they were awaiting testing then. just before 6am this morning, the confirmation from donald trump himself in a tweet that he had tested positive for covid—19. he said that we, speaking for himself, and the first lady will begin our quarantine himself, and the first lady will begin ourquarantine and himself, and the first lady will begin our quarantine and recovery process immediately. we will get through this together. of course we will be discussing this throughout the programme this morning. many questions are being asked about how he will continue with his work schedule. the white house doctor has said that he will continue with his duties without disruption while recovering. more on that throughout the programme this morning. time now to get the news, travel and weather where you are. good morning from bbc london. london hospitals have devised a new strategy to keep non—covid patients safe, even if the capital sees a huge second surge of cases. hospitals across london are looking to create dedicated hubs where non—covid patients will receive routine elective

treatments and operations. the purpose is to avoid adding to the already huge backlog of patients waiting for elective treatments such as hip and knee replacements, cataract surgery or kidney stone removal. there are questions over the future of the bakerloo line extension after the huge project was left off a list of priorities for government funding. the proposals would see the tube line extend to lewisham. but it's effectively been postponed after transport for london didn't include it in a revised list of project priorities seeking centralfunding. it's because they are being realistic about what is affordable over the next decade though tfl said the extension was not on hold. the london marathon is going ahead virtually on sunday, and one person who has been training hard over lockdown is aaron plummer, who has cerebral palsy and learning difficulties. running for the charity mencap in his local area in walthamstow, aaron has been using a mixture of boxing, intensity training

and cycling to get race ready, but his passion for running has really allowed him to focus. you've got to get out there — get out there. i could just switch off and think about running, and i loved it. i love running. let's take a look at the travel situation now. there is heavy traffic westbound on the a13 from ripple road to beckton. you can see it's very wet as well. one lane is closed on the a40 westbound between the polish war memorial and hillingdon circus due to a burst water main. now the eeather with elizabeth rizzini. wet and windy at times for the next

few days. there is a met office warning in place for the southern home counties for heavy rain and strong winds. this is from storm alex, which will be pushing northwards as we head through this morning. tricky travelling conditions for this morning's rush hour. strong gusts of wind around at times and plenty of surface water, but it moves northwards and should brighten up into the afternoon. temperature is largely academic today — watch out for a few showers as we have through the second half of the afternoon. overnight, a separate system will bring more heavy downpours into saturday morning. there's a met office weather warning valid for the whole across the capital, and this is for heavy rain. expect to see further heavy rain. expect to see further heavy downpours particularly on saturday morning. saturday afternoon does look a bit drier and brighter, but always watch out for some showers. more salary outbreaks of rain on sunday. i'm back with the latest from the bbc london newsroom in half an hour. plenty more on our website at the usual address. bye for now.

you are a good morning. welcome to breakfast with charlie stayt and naga munchetty. our headlines today: us president donald trump and the first lady melania test positive for coronavirus and go into quarantine. announcing the result on twitter, the presidient said, "we will get through this together."

calls for the resignation of mp margaret ferrier, who travelled from london to scotland despite knowing she had covid—19, her scottish national party colleagues join those saying she should go. new covid measures come into place tonight in the north of england, meaning a quarter of the uk's population will be living under tight restrictions. good morning. where there is mark, there is power. this farm is turning there is power. this farm is turning the manure from cows into biofuel to power the truck to deliver the milk. how does it work? i will explain a bit later. we got strong wind and heavy rain around today in the south courtesy of storm alex. more of us will see wet and windy weather through the weekend. more in about ten minutes. a breaking news story this morning.

president donald trump and the first lady melania trump have tested postive for coronavirus. it comes after one of the president's closest advisors, hope hicks, confirmed she has the disease. she travelled with him to the televised debate in ohio earlier this week. the news was confirmed by the president in a tweet, saying: melania trump also tweeted: the white house doctor also confirmed the news, saying the president and first lady are both well at this time, and they plan to remain at home within the white house during their convalescence. let's speak to our north america correspondent peter bowes.

peter, we've known this for the last hour, i think a couple of hours before we knew the president was having the test, because of her picks being diagnosed but now the impact is surely going to be felt, so what will happen next? this has come as a huge bombshell. we are a month away from the presidential election, we heard from the president's doctor, he and the first lady are doing well, they're going to be essentially in isolation in quarantine in the white house and the president will continue his duties but apart from running the country, he has an election campaign in front of him as well and it seems impossible to see how anyone in quarantine suffering from this virus, even though he doesn't seem to have symptoms, could possibly carry on with an election campaign with the first lady saying she has cancelled all of her upcoming events. it's only a matter of time that we will hear a similar

announcement on behalf of the president. a huge question over what is going to happen during the next month, with the campaign continuing to some extent in a more low—key way, and if the election goes ahead as planned on november three and the other big unknown ears, how the president and the first lady, we know from the experience of others, they responded in different ways to they responded in different ways to the virus. at 74, he is in a high risk group. people who are obese also don't fare quite as well biting this virus. as you mention there, talking about the campaign. agence france—presse is reported the florida campaign is cancelled and we have to be mindful of who president trump, hope he is, melania trump have been in contact with. there was the presidential debate withjoe

biden, a minnesota brilliant as we know, this news comes through social media. waiting for reactions with those he's been in contact with as well. president trump will have been in contact with a huge number of very important people at the heart of american government, not only his duties in the white house but on those travels and most significantly that debate earlier in the week where he shared a stage without a mask with joe biden. where he shared a stage without a mask withjoe biden. there was some social distance between the two of them but we can only imagine that joe biden will be tested. he's probably getting tested anyway there will be those in thejoe biden team who may have come in relatively close contact with president trump but it's not just close contact with president trump but it's notjust the opposition, its close team, advisers, hope hicks was part of that in a circle. it's a

big unknown. those were part of the trump administration. our prime minister was diagnosed with covid—19 and the impact it had. the prime minister was at one point being helped with his reading. and around his age, 74, his weight, orfears with how difficult will be on his physical well—being. with how difficult will be on his physical well-being. yes, with how difficult will be on his physicalwell-being. yes, and with how difficult will be on his physical well-being. yes, and as we discussed again, we don't know how it's going to progress. there is a system in place, vice president. if you can't carry out his duties.

that'll be the role of the president to step up running the us administration. we are still feeling our way around the virus but at with the complexities of an american presidential election campaign and all the legalities that go on around the fact that the election has to be held on a certain date, there is an inauguration set for a certain date injanuary and a procedure. with the backdrop of coronavirus, there will bea backdrop of coronavirus, there will be a lot of people in the middle of the night in the white house scratching their heads in terms of what happens next. perhaps also bearing in mind. towards the virus in the pandemic. his critics would

certainly say that. thinking what if. if they didn't have a plan in place on paper. peter, always good to talk to you. it's come to us in the last hour. we will continue the conversation throughout the morning, and talk to the united states again inafew and talk to the united states again in a few minutes. pressure is mounting on the mp margaret ferrier to resign after she admitted travelling by train from london to scotland after receiving a positive coronavirus test. her actions have been described as "utterly indefensible" by first minister nicola sturgeon. ms ferrier has been suspended from the snp. our political correspondent helen catt reports.

leila nathoo is in westminster for us this morning. leila, margaret ferrier‘s actions have caused outrage across the political divide and from within her own party. what would the procedure be now in connection with her actions. it's worth recapping what happened. people will view this is a pretty serious breach of the regulations. on saturday, margaret ferrier develops coronavirus symptoms, she ordered a test, she didn't get the results of the test until monday night but in that time, she had travelled down to london from scotla nd travelled down to london from scotland by train when she was supposed to be self—isolating while waiting for that test result. then got a positive test result on monday evening. she'd spoken in debate in parliament that very evening, then it was the next morning, tuesday morning that she travelled back up to scotland by train. clearly putting lots of people at risk, people on the trains that she was travelling on, people working in parliament as well including

potentially some mps in the chamber. she has now lost the whip, she has been suspended from the snp, she is apologised and said she regrets her actions but there are various calls for her to resign as an mp, including from within the now former party. she hasn't responded to those calls yet but clearly there is considerable pressure on herfor those multiple breaches of the rules, of the guidelines, clearly a lot of concern about mps coming and going from westminster and their constituencies. that was a concern right at the start of the pandemic. the s&p ‘s is it only found out about the breach on wednesday, found out about her positive test result on wednesday and the breaches of the restrictions that she was travelling by having tested positive on thursday. one person ‘s self—isolating in parliament as a result. she had been very critical of dominic cummings, the prime minister ‘s advisor when he was

found to have travelled across the country during lockdown. clearly accusations of hypocrisy as well. i think at a time when we are all being urged to stick to the guidance for everybody‘s sake, the fact that someone in parliament is so flag ra ntly someone in parliament is so flagrantly reaching the guidelines, i think it will lead people to say look, our elected representatives should be setting an example. thank you very much. here's sarah with a look at this morning's weather. good morning, sarah. good morning to you. lots to talk about in terms of the weather over the next couple of days. storm alex is with us today, bringing wet and windy weather in the south. over the next couple of days it times, spells of heavy rain, disruption to travel and transport, not just the disruption to travel and transport, notjust the heavy rain but some strong wind as well at times. a bit ofa mix strong wind as well at times. a bit of a mix out there today. storm alex is affecting some parts of the uk.

the strongest of the winds across north—west france, the french met service named the storm but those gusts of wind are likely to reach 65-70 gusts of wind are likely to reach 65—70 miles an hour down to the channel isles and the south coast, and up to bring trees down. heavy rain pushing slowly north into wales and the midlands. followed by sunshine and showers heading towards the south but a very different day to day. it's a cold and foggy starting places. the far north—west of scotland, some rain working into more southern parts later. to the north of that, expect right conditions. feeling cooler if you have the wind in the rain. when these conditions for wales in the south—west of england. much of the

uk will see some heavy rain around on saturday. in the past hour or so, the us president donald trump and first lady melania trump have confirmed they have tested positive for coronavirus. the president hd to be tested after one of the his closest advisors, hope hicks, confirmed she has the disease. she travelled with him to the televised debate in ohio earlier this week. shortly before he got his result, the president spoke to fox news in the us. let's hear what he had to say. she did test positive, ijust heard about this. she is a hard worker.

she wears masks a lot. but she tested positive. i just she wears masks a lot. but she tested positive. ijust went out she wears masks a lot. but she tested positive. i just went out the test. the first lady went out with a test. the first lady went out with a test as well. but speak to our us political reporterjulia test as well. but speak to our us political reporter julia manchester in washington. just to be clear, it was a clip of donald trump speaking at the moment in time when you he was in quarantine awaiting the results of the test, let's go through this. this is a story about a man's health, the president of the united states testing positive for coronavirus. yes, and! yes, and i might add he is 74 years old, so he is automatically and at higher risk category. we also know he is medically obese, so that also puts him in a higher risk category. on top of that, we are about a month out from an election days after

president trump came into contact with vice presidentjoe biden, who is 77 years old. so this is a very serious development now, and going forward it would be interesting to see how the white house and the campaign approaches this. so close to an election — we are still awaiting reaction from the biden campaign. it's the middle of the night here, so i'm sure we will hear in the next couple of hours or so. but yes, a very serious development in us politics today. talk to us a little bit about how this might work in practice. we've heard from sean connolly, a physician to the president, confirming the result, saying the president and first lady are both well at this time, and they plan to remain at home within the white house during their co nvalescence. white house during their convalescence. just talk to as a little bit about how this might work in practice. right. we can guarantee that president trump at least for the next couple of weeks won't be doing these in person campaign

stops. he wasjust doing these in person campaign stops. he was just in doing these in person campaign stops. he wasjust in duluth, minnesota, a few nights ago, where he travelled with hope hicks, who is also covid—19 positive, doing a big, large campaign randomly, but he is quarantining in the white house now. we expect him to probably go through the same quarantine measures that other individuals who have tested positive for covid—19 would go through —— campaign rally. here is the tricky thing about this virus — it impacts everyone differently. like i said before, he is in a high risk category. so we really don't know how it's going to hit him. i'm sure everyone in the uk understands this with borisjohnson testing positive earlier this year. he might have had some symptoms to begin with, but the virus really took a turn for the worse with him later on when it was running its course, and he ended up in the intensive care unit. so we really don't know. the white house medical team are obviously very much going to be on alert, and i would expect that the

white house and the trump campaign may start to ratchet up their safety precaution measures, because we know that the president has been travelling to the israelis and such and it hasn't been as precocious as you might expect —— to these rallies. i will give you an example on tuesday night during the debate. you saw the biden side of the room where the majority were social distance. however on the other side you had the trump family wearing masks but not a lot of mask wearing for the most part. for the moment, thank you very much. let's just keep you up—to—date. of course president trump has confirmed as of six o'clock this morning, when we found out, that he and his wife, melania trump, have tested positive for covid—19. they are beginning the process of isolation and recovery immediately, and he has set on twitter that we will get through this together. the physician to the president, sean connolly, has that

both the president and first lady are well at this time and plan to remain at home within the white house during their convalescence. of course we will keep you up—to—date throughout the programme. a quarter of the uk's population will be under some form of local restrictions by this weekend, after further measures were announced for two million people in northern england. it will be illegal for people in the liverpool city region, warrington, hartlepool and middlesbrough, to meet indoors with anyone outside of their household from midnight tonight. we can now speak to liverpool's director of public health, matthew ashton. a very good morning to you. thank you for your time. can you clarify first of all, for people who don't understand, at this time in liverpool, at this very difficult time in relation to covid—19, what is your role? my role is co—ordinating the pandemic response for the local area. i'm the lead officerfor for the local area. i'm the lead officer for health within the local authority, but i work with our local politicians and partners to make sure we have that co—ordinated response to the pandemic. are you

wholeheartedly approving of the measures that are taking place in your area? i think we are in a really difficult situation right now. our current rate is 278 per 100,000 over the last seven days. we seen a really rapid escalation in the number of cases both in liverpool and the wider city region. we've gone from having 14 cases a week in the middle ofjuly to 50 cases a week in the middle of august to 1400 a week right now, so i think we need to be throwing everything we cannot it to try and suppress levels of the virus, absolutely. are you confident in your role as director of public health for liverpool that the measures that have been taken going far enough? as i say, i think it's really difficult. we know that interventions take time to have an impact, so we need to be keeping the watching the data really closely to watching the data really closely to watch what that impact has. however, wider data. we are seeing the impact on our hospital system already. we

know the number of hospital admissions tutor coronavirus has increased tenfold since the start of the month, so frankly i'm worried this hasn't gone quite far enough. but to be fair, this isn'tjust about the rules. this is about people doing the right thing an an understanding that covid is an important, serious issue and all acting responsibly to make sure that coronavirus doesn't spread. can i ask about the timeline? you said just a moment ago that time is crucial, and every day there are more cases. so when are you going to know whether the measures are making a difference? will it be on a daily basis? obviously we watch the data ona basis? obviously we watch the data on a daily basis, and people's behaviour changes all the time, but in terms of strict timelines it's probably two weeks after intervention you see the cases changing. two weeks after that use the changes to hospital admissions to that, and two weeks after that changes to mortality. it could be four to six weeks to three if we have an impact with these

interventions. there have been many questions about testing at the heart of everything that's happened across the uk, but specifically in your area, liverpool, right now, do you have enough tests? i don't think anyone has got enough tests. the important thing is — are the right people accessing that capacity? we now have additional testing capacity in the liverpool city region, which isa in the liverpool city region, which is a good thing. we could always do with more. but there a wider point. it's not just having with more. but there a wider point. it's notjust having the test, its people acting on the results of those tests. for example, we know only 48% of people truly understand the symptoms of coronavirus are, and it's only people with symptoms of covid that should get tested, and we also know only 18% of people who are advised to self isolate actually go on to do so. if! advised to self isolate actually go on to do so. if i may, advised to self isolate actually go on to do so. if! may, can i ask advised to self isolate actually go on to do so. if i may, can i ask one question? based on what you've just said, can! question? based on what you've just said, can i be absolutely clear — are you confident as you go into this extremely important. that eve ryo ne this extremely important. that everyone who needs a test, who should have a test, in your area in

liverpool, can get one? we've just put in additional measures which came into effect yesterday, which mean we've got local pop—up testing available. we've had queues out the doorfor available. we've had queues out the door for that. are you overwhelmed? i wouldn't say we are overwhelmed, but i would say lots of people want a test, and we have to make sure the right people get access. it's a very difficult situation, but anyone with symptoms needs to be getting themselves tested. i'm just trying to clarify this with you, because it's such an important thing. we will speak to a government minister shortly on this. if you've got cues around the block for pop—up testing centres, i'm thinking and other people might be thinking that sounds like a system that struggling already in and that has real issues. we need more tests, but everywhere needs more tests. that's not specific to liverpool. i think there's more than that, though, if i may. it's also turnaround time for the test results, and also people

acting on the information they get asa acting on the information they get as a result. so if people are told to self isolate, they need to self isolate. thank you very much for your time this morning. maybe we can catch up again in the weeks and days ahead. thank you. plans to ease restrictions for people living alone in local lockdown areas across wales are expected to be announced later. it follows concerns about the wellbeing of those in single—person households, as more than three quarters of the population are now subject to tighter restrictions. the welsh first minister, mark drakeford, joins us now. thank you for your time this morning. good morning. would you like to clarify the thinking behind easing the pressure? and it's a mental pressure, mental health issues that we've spoken about particularly, around lockdown — the impact that has had — perhaps how these measures will change for those who are living alone. thank you. we have more local authorities in wales

now confined in measures that are designed to reduce the spread of coronavirus in those areas, and people are not able to leave or enter those areas, and people are only able to meet people from their own household indoors. we are increasingly aware of the impact that has on adults living alone, and we are easing the restrictions so that single adult households will be able to form an alliance with one of the household from within that cou nty the household from within that county area. the idea is indeed to ease some of that sense of loneliness and isolation, not being able to talk to anybody else will stop there is more than one form of harm from coronavirus, and a sense of mental well—being is an important thing that we can make a difference with through this change. so this is a bubble, as has been practised in england — is that correct? i'm trying to understand. the term is often used for this. it's an

arrangement in which a single adult household can meet up, join up, with one other household in an exclusive way and be able to act as though they were one single household. just to be clear, one single adult can tea m to be clear, one single adult can team up with a household full of a family, for example — a family of five. that would be allowed. it's not just a five. that would be allowed. it's notjust a single adult and a single adult. no, that could be the case. two single adult households could get together, but a single adult household could meet with the family and create a bubble with them too. the other area that has been spoken about is calls for travel bans or restrictions into wales. tell me what you would like to see. what i'd like to see is that the prime minister would introduce a rule in england that we have introduced in wales. in our hotspot areas, you are not allowed to travel in and out of those areas without a good reason for doing so. and going on holiday

i'm afraid is not a good reason. yet people in hotspots in england are able to travel through all those areas and go on holiday in the far west of wales. in the far west of wales, we have got very little coronavirus, and we don't have restrictions in place, and there is an understandable anxiety in those communities that people from areas where the virus is in very violent circulation could come and bring that virus with them. we prevent that virus with them. we prevent that from happening in wales. i think it would be very good if we could prevent that from happening from visitors coming into wales as well. just explain - you so you prevent this in wales at the moment. so if someone from england, for example, were to travel into wales today, into an area where there are tighter restrictions, would law enforcement be able to impose some fine or some charge to them? would it be legal? no, it would not be

within our regulations to travel into a local lockdown area. the problem, though, we are trying to solve is not that, because that's not legal now. it's where people travel across wales into those holiday areas that are not subject to restrictions. people from wales can't go to them. i don't think people from outside wales coming from hotspot areas elsewhere should be able to do so either. so you are effectively closing wales to anyone who isn't a welsh resident. that's what you would like. no, people in other parts of the united kingdom who don't live in hotspot areas would still be able to come. what we are trying to do is to prevent people who live in areas where there isa people who live in areas where there is a lot of the virus about travelling to parts of wales where there is very little virus about. so it's not a blanket ban on people coming to wales, it's trying to prevent transmission from high incidence areas to low incidence areas. briefly, how would you please that if that were the case? the same

way we did earlier in the pandemic and in the period. we had a stay local rule in wales where it wasn't legal for people to come into wales and travel about. our police forces we re very and travel about. our police forces were very adept at stopping people and explaining to them that the rules were different here, and when they did, what the police had always said to us as the vast majority of people, when it's explained to them by the rules are different and why we need them not to travel, were very willing to abide by that. thank you very much for your time with us this morning. time now to get the news, travel and weather where you are. good morning from bbc london. london hospitals have devised a new strategy to keep non—covid patients safe, even if the capital sees a huge second surge of cases.

hospitals across london are looking to create dedicated hubs where non—covid patients will receive routine elective treatments and operations. the purpose is to avoid adding to the already huge backlog of patients waiting for elective treatments such as hip and knee replacements, cataract surgery or kidney stone removal. there are questions over the future of the bakerloo line extension after the huge project was left off a list of priorities for government funding. the proposals would see the tube line extend to lewisham. but it's effectively been postponed after transport for london didn't include it in a revised list of project priorities seeking centralfunding. it's because they are being realistic about what is affordable over the next decade though tfl said the extension was not on hold. a temporary ferry service is now the preferred solution while hammersmith bridge remains shut. the plan is to have the ferry in place by early next year. the task force working

towards opening it revealed in a statement that other solutions including a temporary bridge are still being considered. the inaugural windrush caribbean film festival takes place this week, examining the impacts of windrush on life in the uk today. audiences can participate in discussions and masterclasses from the comfort of their own homes. each screening will be coupled with a q&a with major filmmakers, activists and actors. let's take a look at the travel situation now. one lane is closed on the a40 westbound between the polish war memorial and hillingdon circus due to a burst water main. tooting high street is partially blocked southbound at trevelyan road because of a broken down bus.

now the weather with elizabeth rizzini. wet and windy at times for the next few days. there is a met office warning in place for the southern home counties for heavy rain and strong winds. this is from storm alex, which will be pushing northwards as we head through this morning. tricky travelling conditions for this morning's rush hour. strong gusts of wind around at times and plenty of surface water, but it moves northwards and should brighten up into the afternoon. temperatures largely academic today — watch out for a few showers as we have through the second half of the afternoon. overnight, a separate system will bring more heavy downpours into saturday morning. there's a met office weather warning valid for the whole weekend across the capital, and this is for heavy rain. expect to see further heavy downpours particularly on saturday morning. saturday afternoon does look a bit drier and brighter, but always watch out for some showers. more showery outbreaks of rain on sunday. i'm back with the latest

from the bbc london newsroom in half an hour. plenty more on our website at the usual address. bye for now. hello. this is breakfast with charlie stayt and naga munchetty. a reminder of our top story this morning — donald trump and his wife melania have both been infected with coronavirus. in a tweet, the president said: one of the president's closest advisors, hope hicks, also has the disease. she travelled with him to the televised debate in ohio earlier this week. she had also travelled with him to a minnesota rally on wednesday. as of now we understand from the white house stop, both president trump and

melania trumbo well. the from donald trump himself came through just before 6am this morning. followed then by a number of tweets including his medical advisors and later on, just before 630 this morning, a tweet from melania trump who said, "as tweet from melania trump who said, "as too many americans have done this year, the president and i are quarantining at home after testing positive for covid—19. we are feeling good and i postponed all upcoming engagements. please make sure you are staying safe and we will get through this together. we will get through this together. we will hear ——we heard from white house position sean connelly that the president is due to carry out his duties without disruption while recovering in the white house medical team has said they will maintaina vigilant medical team has said they will maintain a vigilant watch but he and the first lady are well at this time. we'll keep you updated. we can speak now to local government

secretary robertjenrick. it's our lead story this morning that donald trump in the first lady of both tested positive for covid—19. can i get your reaction on hearing that news this morning? all of us want to wish president trump, melania trump and all the family the best, whether hope they have a speedy recovery. we know what it's like to have a political leader, in our case the prime minister, contract the virus. a great deal of concern amongst his friends and family and we send them our best wishes this morning. can i ask you about scottish nationalist party mp margaret ferrier‘s actions, she knew she tested positive for covid—19, was in london and got a train back. what do you make of her actions? she acknowledged she made a serious

mistake, i've seen her statement, the snp have removed the whip. it's a matter for the snp have removed the whip. it's a matterfor her the snp have removed the whip. it's a matter for her now and the snp what further actions they choose to take. for the police of course, who said they will be looking into the matter. in all the public health guidance that will need to follow andindeed guidance that will need to follow and indeed the law, one, if not the most important piece is that if you do test positive, you must self isolate. the scottish national party has suspended her. what do you think is the appropriate reaction? i'm not going to get into an individual case. i've seen the action taken by the snp. this is now a matterfor them to choose whether they act or go further than suspending her and it isa go further than suspending her and it is a question for her, what her own political future is, it is a question for her, what her own politicalfuture is, but the rest of us must follow the national

guidelines, they are clear and as i say, once you have tested positive, self—isolating is absolutely critical. that goes without saying. not using public transport. various regions, liveable city region, hartlepool and others, restrictions will come into force and guidelines, we've spoken to matthew ashton, the director of public health in liverpool who is pivotal to what will happen there next. he has raised concerns with us that the measures that are coming in don't go far enough. should we go further in this instance, we have reviewed the situation there and taken advice from the chief medical officer and his team and chosen the steps that have been outlined as the sensible

way forward. we keep this completely and way forward. we keep this completely a nd co nsta ntly way forward. we keep this completely and constantly under review so if we need to go further, we could do it in the future. there is evidence that local lock downs are working, there are some parts of the country, particularly in the north of england with a number of cases continues to rise, and that's very concerning so people who live there need to pay attention to the local adviser, it's confusing, and different messages in different parts of the country. they can find the advice on gov.uk in the act is the best way to get control of the situation locally. what the director of public health in liverpool said, it feels very important, the person who is in control of public health in liverpool, even this morning ahead of the restrictions is suggesting he has a concern that is not going far enough that you are dismissing that.

i'm not dismissing it at all. directors of public health play a critical role in the local response. the decision on which further restrictions to take is made in concert between the director of public health and the national health professionals and ultimately politicians including the health secretary and that's what's happened in this case. i'm sure the department of health will continue to be in close conversation with the director of public health locally. and be monitoring the rate of infection, if the number of cases continues to rise, there are further steps that could be taken but we wa nt to steps that could be taken but we want to strike a sensible and pragmatic balance between controlling the virus and making sure that other things that matter to all of us including protecting livelihoods, education and mental health and our broader way of life can be maintained. that's the balance that can be maintained. that's the bala nce that co nsta ntly can be maintained. that's the balance that constantly being struck in each individual case. another issue raised in this will apply to

several areas, but we are concentrating on liverpool, the provision for testing. matthew ashton, the director of public health tells us these pop—up testing centres, people are queueing around the block, and there are concerns there may not be enough tests. there is significant testing capacity, we've gone from 2000 test per day at the beginning of the virus right now up the beginning of the virus right now up to 300,000. we've gone on course to reach 500,000 tests by the end of the month. there is significant capacity. we want to produce more. i'm asking specifically about liverpool. we are localising the issue. that is the way this process works. people might expect if you are localising the restrictions, you would also bring in extra provision for those local areas in connection with testing and processing those

tests. that is what happens in areas where there are local restrictions, testing capacity is brought into the area. when my own constituency went on to the watchlist, mobile testing centres were created in a number of locations and stayed in a number of weeks. we do do that, i don't know the details exactly for liverpool, whether there is a need for further mobile testing units to be set up but i will look into that and see whether further capacity is required. it is essential that we get that surge capacity into liverpool as quickly as possible. you will be reviewing whether or not there is extra provision needed for testing in liverpool? it's a matter for the health secretary but i will raise it with them as you have with me. can ask about the proposed three tiered system. this is about whether there could be a structured process in whether areas, tiers one to three, judging the restrictions in

place relative to the problems with corona in your area. place relative to the problems with corona in yourarea. is place relative to the problems with corona in your area. is that something being actively worked on by the government now? yes we are giving the board, we've been working on that for a number of weeks, and the health secretary will be bringing forward proposals short. the national guidelines are simple and clear to understand now, washing your hands, wearing a mask, staying apart, the rule of six. we've also adopted local restrictions and i appreciate that can seem confusing, particularly if you are not in one of those areas are not able to look up of those areas are not able to look up particular guidelines for your own locality. the idea behind a more tiered approach will be a national playbook and you are able to move between one of these three tiers as the number of cases in a particular area grows . the number of cases in a particular area grows. and that will create a degree of consistency and make it easierfor people to degree of consistency and make it easier for people to familiarise themselves with the rules in their own area go on the watchlist or progress up into local restrictions. an announcement next week? the

health secretary is finalising the plans and will make an announcement in due course. can ask you about support for these areas which are subject to these local restrictions. we now know that there are many parts of england that are subject to those restrictions and concern from a lot of those local councils and organisations that there is not enough support? i am working with local council leaders. speaking in many ways over the last week. we are providing them with further funding, refunding all of their expenditure related to covid—19 and we've given them £4 billion of additional funding and are providing more money for businesses that up giddily affected by local towns, £1500 per week the business on top of all of the other grants and schemes like the other grants and schemes like the chancellor has brought forward.

keeping this under review and further resources are required, obviously we will consider that. we wa nt to obviously we will consider that. we want to ensure that local councils really are on the frontline, doing a fantasticjob. we are relying on them time and again to deliver our response, that they are properly resourced. in terms of people's travel in relation to concerns the disease will be spread by people travelling. if we go back to the situation with margaret ferrier, we know is in the house of commons and tested positive at that time, are you, like other mps in the house at that time, asking if you are in close contact? after margaret ferrier tested positive, the house authorities, the speaker of the house of commons was informed and theyin house of commons was informed and they in turn have been in conversation with public health england and a track and trace procedure has happened from the

statement by the speaker last night, they've identified one individual who came into close proximity with margaret covid and are now self—isolating so the usual procedures are applying to the house of commons as they do elsewhere in the country. it's a lesson to all of us the country. it's a lesson to all of us to continue to follow the basic national advice and to make use of track and trace, if you do have symptoms, so that other people can self isolate. i don't know whether you personally have had that moment where you have scratched your head and gone, did i see her, did i meet her and have contact? there's a parallel with other peoplesituations. the virus affects everybody and everyone's workplace, including the government and my workplace in the house of commons, and that's why we all need to be following the rules. the house of commons will be going through the procedures that hundreds if not thousands of other workplaces have

gone through today. have you done that personally? fortunately, i haven't had symptoms, and i haven't been into contact with track and trace, having been in close proximity with other people, but if either of those things happen, i certainly would do. thank you for your time this morning. here's sarah with a look at this morning's weather. what a lovely, amazing sky behind you. yes, it's beautiful, isn't it? we'll ta ke yes, it's beautiful, isn't it? we'll take a moment to enjoy the calm before the storm. this is in north yorkshire. it's been a beautiful sunrise, particularly across northern parts of the uk, where we had clear skies. but certainly the weather is going to be quite disruptive over the next few days. today storm alex is on its way towards the south, bringing strong winds across southern england and wales today. heavy rain around too. over the next few days at times we could see disruption to travel and

transport. flooding is possible, and we have those strong winds at times too, so there could be disruption with small trees down and power cuts possible as well. today's weather is a north—south split. it's the southern half feeling the effects of storm alex. the strongest winds are across the north—west of france, but across the north—west of france, but across the north—west of france, but across the english channel and southern england, gusting at 55 to 70 mph towards the channel islands. notjust 70 mph towards the channel islands. not just those strong, 70 mph towards the channel islands. notjust those strong, blustery winds, but heavy rain pushing northwards. heading into the afternoon, it's the midlands and wales that see the arrival of that heavy rain. the southwest and the channel islands stay pretty wet throughout the day. a bit of brightness working in through the south later on in the afternoon, but it will stay windy in the south. a different feeling day for the northern half. a cold start with fog for northern ireland, northern england and scotland first thing. plenty of dry weather through the day with some sunshine. if few showers for northern ireland in western scotland. quite windy and showery for the northern isles too,

but elsewhere that wet and windy weather holding on, temperature is about 12 to 15 degrees. feeling colder where you are exposed to the brisk wind and rain as well. this evening out tonight, more of that rain piling in across england and wales. still some strong winds around, especially for wales in the south—west of england as well. a 5°99y south—west of england as well. a soggy start for saturday morning for many of us, and through the day tomorrow we've got that rain continuing to push on. it will be persistent and heavy, especially around the east of the pennines, eastern parts of highland scotland, with gales or severe gales with that heavy rain towards the south—west. soa heavy rain towards the south—west. so a soggy weekend, sunshine and showers by sunday. thanks very much, see you later on. the pressure is on margaret ferrier to resign after travelling to london

by train after receiving a positive coronavirus test. her actions have been seen as a full independence delete word macro indefensible. we are joined delete word macro indefensible. we arejoined by delete word macro indefensible. we are joined by ian delete word macro indefensible. we arejoined by ian blackford from delete word macro indefensible. we are joined by ian blackford from the isle of skye. this is a serious matter. your reaction to this. isle of skye. this is a serious matter. your reaction to thism isle of skye. this is a serious matter. your reaction to this. it is a very serious matter. at the end of the day, what margaret has done is inexcusable, and she knows that. she knows she was in the wrong. i've expressed my anger and the anger of because of all your viewers this morning. the case here was pretty clear that she had a test for covid—19, and while waiting for the results of that test she travelled by train to london, and on hearing that she was positive then did thejourney and on hearing that she was positive then did the journey in reverse. there is no defence for such behaviour, i'm afraid. as a public figure, you've got to recognise that you are going to be held up to scrutiny, and rightly that you are going to bejudged on the scrutiny, and rightly that you are going to be judged on the things you do. iam going to be judged on the things you do. i am deeply sorry for everyone that this has taken place, and i've

obviously taken the action that is open to me as her party leader in westminster, and we are throwing the whip from her. it's fair to say that margaret is going to have to reflect very carefully on the actions she has taken and will have to consider her position in the light of all of this. do you expect her to resign? i think she has got to reflect on what she has done, and the responsibility we have as public figures to give us leadership, and i'm afraid that when you break the law — because that's what this is — when you've what you have done, and i'm she has done the right thing by referring herself to police and the parliamentary standards — but she will have to reflect carefully on whether or not she can continue as a member of parliament for her constituents. ki rsty parliament for her constituents. kirsty blackman smp, the aberdeen north, stephen flynn, smp for aberdeen south, david linden, the snp mpforthe aberdeen south, david linden, the snp mp for the glasgow east constituency, which neighbours ms

ferrier‘s, have called for her resignation. you started this interview by saying there are many that a very angry about and annoyed with her actions. they believe she should resign. can you say if you believe she should resign? what i have said is i think margaret has got to reflect on the circumstances. let me say to you that we've been living with covid for a number of months, since march, in terms of arrangements anyway. people have had to make enormous sacrifices. a lot of people have lost their lives through this period. people are not able to see their families in a way that we would want. in the light of that we would want. in the light of that margaret has to take these things into consideration. i think it's pretty clear what i'm suggesting what should be done. i regret we are in this situation and that margaret has done all this, but at the end of the day politicians have to bejudged at the end of the day politicians have to be judged and show leadership. we have to do the right thing. what does this do for the message to the public in terms of who abides by the rules and when? we

have a deeply serious situation where the prevalence of the viruses on the increase again, and we need to recognise that everyone — everyone, absolutely everyone — it doesn't matter who you are. you've got to observe the guidance and the law, and it doesn't help when anyone ina law, and it doesn't help when anyone in a position authority is behaving ina way in a position authority is behaving in a way which doesn't observe the rules. the message i would give, and i'm sure the message everyone should be given, is that nobody is above the law, nobody is above the regulations, and each and every one of us have got a responsibility to make sure that we are observing this, quite simply because we got the responsibility to keep ourselves and to keep the public and those that work in our emergency services safe. can i ask you - when did you note margaret ferrier had taken this journey after testing positive for coronavirus? you turned up yesterday. why so long? —— you found

out yesterday. well, what i understand is we were told that margaret had tested positive, or the chief whip was informed she tested positive on wednesday. the parliamentary authorities were informed. i was told on thursday morning after the meeting between the chief weapon parliamentary authorities that there were a number of questions that i wanted answered at that point and that were put to margaret. i was travelling back home yesterday and in a timely manner when i was aware of all of these things, and we took immediate action to suspend the whip from margaret. what has the first minister said in terms of this now, saying that this is completely unacceptable? alai needs to be drawn, doesn't it? because mps are setting an example and making our laws —— a line needs to be drawn. of course they are, and ican to be drawn. of course they are, and i can tell you the first minister, as well as im, are pretty angry at what has happened. it is deeply reg retta ble, what has happened. it is deeply regrettable, and as i've said, i think margaret has to look at the evidence and judge what she needs to

do. i think it's obvious what she needs to do. we have two stand by the rules and have standards of ourselves. each and every one of us has to look at ourselves in the mirrorand has to look at ourselves in the mirror and ask, have we given the appropriate guidance and leadership and observe the rules? if we fail to do so, we have to accept the consequences of that. when dominic cummings, the prime minister's most senior advisor, was seen to break the rules of isolation and lockdown, you called for his resignation. why is this different? well, naga, what i've said this morning, i think it's pretty clear what i am saying. this isa pretty clear what i am saying. this is a pretty serious situation, and margaret has to do the right thing. he wasn't an mp, he is an adviser. he wasn't an mp, he is an adviser. he isa he wasn't an mp, he is an adviser. he is a senior adviser to the prime minister, one that's at the heart of the policy in the programme of the government. i am calling on margaret

to do the right thing, and it is reg retta ble to do the right thing, and it is regrettable that those in government in london and the tory government never accepted the responsibilities of the messaging that took place as a consequence of what dominic cummings dead. i'm asking margaret to do the right thing. it's just a pity borisjohnson to do the right thing. it's just a pity boris johnson never did to do the right thing. it's just a pity borisjohnson never did that with dominic cummings. so you are saying she should resign?|j with dominic cummings. so you are saying she should resign? i think i've been quite clear — she has broken the rules and the law. she is let myself down and everyone down. i think it's pretty obvious she has to do the right thing. thank you very much for your time this morning. electric scooters should be legalised on roads in the uk within the next 18 months — but banned from pavements. ministers on the transport select committee say that with proper regulations e—scooters could reduce congestion, but critics argue they could be a danger to pedestrians. the department for transport has been running trials in england sincejuly with mixed results.

let's speak to paul hodgins, who runs an e—scooter rental service, and mary creagh, who is director of walking charity living streets. mary, first of all, welcome to both, but mary, what's the scale of the problem? pavements are for people, and our members are telling us that the silence, the speed and the acceleration of e—scooters turning up acceleration of e—scooters turning up in pavements even though they are currently illegal is alarming people and causing antisocial behaviour. it's making social distancing much more difficult, and we have bumpy pavements, so there a rise in accidents as well. in northamptonshire the police gave out 56 warnings for illegal activity ranging from children riding them on their parents people ‘s accounts, three people honestly pavement and pavement writing. there have been a

number of trials carried out in various parts of england particularly. what restrictions are there, as you understand it, on the use of e—scooters? there, as you understand it, on the use of e-scooters? well, they are not supposed to go in pavements, and that's the first thing. with covid and social distancing, that's absolutely vital. the other thing is around the speed. at the moment the speeds are capped at 15 mph. we think that should be lower. we know the condition of our roads in the potholes. these have small wheels. they have a low footplate, so we are concerned about accident and injury to riders. but finally the committee talked about enforcement and saying we need robust enforcement. that's clearly happening in northampton. but with the scale of police budget cuts and the constraints on police time being asked to monitor what's going on with social distancing in pubs and clubs, it's a big ask for the police to do this enforcement, we think. paul hodgkins, let's get your reaction to what mary has been

saying in terms of the potential danger to pedestrians, the inability or the lack of funding in terms of police time to police this. what would be your reaction to this, if those are breaking the law? look, i think e—scooters are a great option for transport in our local towns and cities of the future, unlike anything, they are a vehicle, like bikes, like mopeds and like cars. drivers have to be responsible. and i agree 100% — just like bikes, they are not for pavements. they have to be used responsibility. they are motorised vehicles. they've got to be used on the roads, in bike lanes and on the roads. we are on a shared space right now for bikes and pedestrians. and i also agree that we need to introduce them in a

controlled way so that people get used to them, that they understand the rules. we've actually limited our scooters to anywhere from 11.5 to 13.5 mph, so below the 15.5 mph speed limit. we've limited the age to 18 and above. and these pilots are all about not only the police and local councils but riders and pedestrians as well, so people do have to be responsible. paul, do you think a license should be held in order to operate one of these? well, right now you do need a driver 's license. you need either a provisional or a full drivers license. i think in the future they are very much like bikes in terms of the usage... to be clear, that is just for rental, isn't it? it's not if you own one and use it for private use. it's just

if you own one and use it for private use. it'sjust the rental ones, that's right. i think some of the recommendations that have come out over the last day, and the department of transport is going to be looking at the private ones. but for the next 12 months it'sjust the re ntal for the next 12 months it'sjust the rental scooters that are legal, that's right, and in areas where pilots exist, and those are growing. there are over 30 local authority areas which are going to have pilots by the end of october. so we are going to have a lot of usage, a lot of experimentation and a lot of education, and this next few months is all about that. paul hodgkins, thank you very much forjoining us, and mary kreach, chief executive of living streets, thank you very much for your time this morning. the

good morning. welcome to breakfast with charlie stayt and naga munchetty. our headlines today... us president donald trump and first lady melania test positive for coronavirus and go into quarantine. announcing the result on twitter the president says, "we will get through this together." calls for the resignation of snp mp margaret ferrier, who travelled from london to scotland despite knowing she had covid—19. her leader in the house of commons says she should

consider her position. i think she will have to reflect very carefully on whether she can remain asa very carefully on whether she can remain as a member of parliament in her constituency. new covid measures come into place tonight in the north of england, meaning a quarter of the uk's population will be living under tight restrictions. taking action against the impact of motor neurone disease — we join the family of rugby league star rob burrow on their latest challenge to raise funds to tackle the condition. good morning. we have some disruptive weather on the cards courtesy of ston alex, bringing strong winds and wet weather in the south today. wet and windy weather at times through the uk this weekend. president donald trump and the first lady, melania trump, have tested postive for coronavirus. it comes after one of the president's closest advisors, hope hicks, confirmed she has the disease. she travelled with him

to the televised debate in ohio earlier this week. let's ta ke let's take you through the breaking story this morning. the news was confirmed by the president in a tweet saying... "tonight, the first lady and i tested positive for covid—19. melania trump also tweeted... "we are feeling good and i have postponed all upcoming engagements. please be sure you are staying safe and we will all get through this together." the white house doctor also confirmed the news saying the president and first lady are both well at this time, and they plan to remain at home within the white house during their convalescence. let's speak to our north america editor, jon sopel. good morning to you. first and foremost, this is a story about a man ‘s health and a man of a certain

age sojust talk man ‘s health and a man of a certain age so just talk to us a little bit about that. well, it's simultaneously astonishing that the president, who is so well protected, where testing happens so much could have contracted the virus and also, not in the least bit surprising even the ambivalent attitude in the white house towards wearing face masks. you talk about this very close aide and confidant, hope hicks, having contracted it earlier in the week, there is a film of her and four other people walking to the marine one helicopter, that cramped helicopter that takes the president and those people from the white house to andrews air force base, none of them are wearing masks. at all. and that underlines the problem, you can have all the protection you need but actually, if you haven't got the masks mitigating it, that could be problematic and probably is how it spread. donald

trump is 74 years old. the last full medical report we had says that he was obese, those are two comorbidities that go with covid. that said, the physicians report was upbeat in its assessment although it's very early days, of course, it says he thinks the president should be able to continue his work uninterrupted while he recuperates. and so, no suggestion that the president needs to step aside and they need to invoke article 25 of they need to invoke article 25 of the constitution, for the vice president to temporarily take over but you know, small questions like that, who knows? just looking at some of the comments mention, john connolly, the position to the president said the white house and i will maintaina president said the white house and i will maintain a vigilant watch, i support —— appreciate the support provided by some of the country ‘s just physicians and institutions. no

escaping the fact on a daily and hourly basis the us nation, the people there, will want to know the health of the president. the world will want to know the health of the president. just in terms of how they are relaying that information, the impact that might have, also, of course, on the election campaign, these are enormous questions. huge questions, charlie. iwould these are enormous questions. huge questions, charlie. i would say if you were to compare and contrast what happened in the uk when boris johnson became ill with covid, there isa johnson became ill with covid, there is a formal constitutional procedure that takes place that allows the president to step aside and for the vice president to take over but these are troubling times and it's 3am here. in america. i'm sure millions are totally unaware because the soul broke late in the evening about hope hicks and then about 1am, president contracting the virus. who knows where this goes on what

happens next? it is a very unsettling period, iwould not happens next? it is a very unsettling period, i would not be surprised if the markets are very jittery today. they are trying to process what this all means, what this all means for the president, what this means for the election, what this means for the election, what happens going forward. so many unanswered questions. for the moment, thank you. we will keep asking the question throughout the programme. the time is six minutes past eight. pressure is mounting on the mp margaret ferrier to resign after she admitted travelling by train from london to scotland after receiving a positive coronavirus test. her actions have been described as "utterly indefensible" by first minister nicola sturgeon. leila nathoo is in westminster for us this morning. good morning to you. talking to ian blackford from the snp earlier, there is a lot of pressure on margaret ferrier to resign. absolutely. he has withdrawn the whip from margaret ferrier, the leader of the snp in westminster, she has been suspended from the

party. but it is ultimately up to heras to party. but it is ultimately up to her as to whether she continues as an mp and we got a pretty strong hint this morning from ian blackford earlier on the programme that he wants her to stand down. well, i think she has got to reflect on what she has done on the responsibility that we have as public figures, to give leadership and i'm afraid that when you break the law, because that's what this is, when you've done what you have done, and of course she has done the right thing by referring herself to the police andindeed by referring herself to the police and indeed the parliamentary standards, but i think she will have to reflect very carefully on whether she can continue as a member of parliament for her constituents. clearly, a very serious breach of the regulations. not only failing to self—isolate when the regulations. not only failing to self— isolate when she the regulations. not only failing to self—isolate when she developed symptoms herself, travelling on public transport from scotland to westminster, speaking in a debate and hasa westminster, speaking in a debate and has a comment then finding out she had tested positive and travelling back to scotland again on

the train. sol travelling back to scotland again on the train. so i think, you know, the example is clearly set, a bad one, the leader of her party believing it has been a very serious situation, the police are looking into the matter. she has apologised, said she regrets deeply what she has done but i think we are going to see a lot of pressure on her today to stand down as an mp. thank you very much. a complete ban on different households meeting indoors is being extended to a wider area of northern england from midnight tonight, to try and stop the spread of coronavirus. the extra restrictions will apply to the liverpool city region, which includes st helens and wirral, and also to warrington, hartlepool and middlesbrough. by this weekend, a quarter of the uk's population will be under some form of local restrictions. it's eight minutes past eight. gloomy, dark weather, that is what sarah is bringing us this morning! hopefully bringing us a little bit

of sunshine as well. good morning to you both. it is looking pretty mixed out there and during the weekend as well, some lively weather on the cards courtesy of ston alex, moving into day to the south, bringing spells of heavy rain around, strong winds as well. but over the next few days, all of us will see at times in wet and windy weather which could lead to travel and transport disruption. and potentially some flooding around as well. today, it's really a southern england and south wales seeing the strong winds and heavy rain, courtesy of ston alex. named by the french made service, the strongest of the winds in the north—west of france but some of the gusts likely to reach 60 or 70 miles an hour especially along the south coast, towards the channel islands as well. not just coast, towards the channel islands as well. notjust strong winds but this band of heavy rain pushing northward through wales, into the midlands by the afternoon, followed by some brighter skies into the south later. it's a different sort of day for the northern half of the uk. co—starred to the morning, fog

patches around, they lift and clear stop one or two showers for northern ireland, also the western isles, the northern isles also fairly showery and breezy but elsewhere across scotland, northern ireland, northern england, not a bad day, some sunshine around. further south, england, not a bad day, some sunshine around. furthersouth, be prepared for strong winds and heavy rain. into this evening and tonight, we see more wet weather piling in on this brisk easterly wind across much of england and wales. a soggy start to saturday. colder and clearer in the north—west. much of britain sees a wet day to come on saturday but drierfor northern a wet day to come on saturday but drier for northern ireland, a wet day to come on saturday but drierfor northern ireland, sunshine and blustery showers around on sunday. a bit of a mix but watch out for the wet and windy weather, especially in the south today. we will do. sarah, thank you. it's ten minutes past eight. we've been following the story of rob burrow here on breakfast. he's the former professional rugby league player who was diagnosed with motor neurone disease. sally is here to tell us

more about a challenge being taken on by his family. it's been brilliant, hasn't it. good morning, everyone. in case you don't know it, this is rob rowe, in his pomp. know it, this is rob rowe, in his pomp, playing for leeds rhinos, hugely successful, but he has been diagnosed with mnd, currently no cu re diagnosed with mnd, currently no cure for the condition, his family and friends taking on challenges and fundraising to support treatment and raise awareness of the disease. he had a hugely successful career playing for england and for the leeds rhinos, he won eight super league titles over 16 years. just before christmas last year his career was cut short by mnd which affects his brain and his nervous system, you can see him there, on the pitch with his family. he is now 38, and requires a lot of help. fundraising efforts to help his family have so far raised more than £235,000 and he hopes to raise awareness of the condition for other people as well. we followed his wife

and his eldest daughter as they took on one particular challenge just for rob. for lindsey and macy burrow, a challenge lies ahead. a little bit nervous now i've seen it. but we'll do it. he'll be proud. macy is eight years old and she is hoping to get to the top of the first peak, pen—y—ghent. i've not done any peaks before and i haven't experienced it but i think i'll be fine. lindsey is hoping to complete all three, a distance of more than 24 miles. she wants to finish the challenge in less than ten hours. rob had actually had a bet with me the week of saying, you won't do it, you know, you have not done any training.

how am i supposed to train when i've got three children to look after? i'm working from home, and i've got you to look after. your legs are not long enough! couple of hours later, it is smiles all round. everybody has made it up the first of the peaks, even rob's sisterjo. well, he'll probablyjust laugh, we've got loads of photos, so he'll really laugh at me, because you know, i'm, like, on the ground and just... i mean, he'll be proud because i don't think he thought i would even do one. he is so strong, he's an inspiration, so, to put myself through that, it's nothing, is it, compared to what he's going through. so, yeah, kept thinking of rob all the time. a third of people with mnd die within a year, more than half within two years of diagnosis. rob and his family are determined to do all they can to help fund research and find a cure. so i'm out in the cold again. at first it was nice and easy but then it got a bit harder because you're

on your hands and knees. it were really hard. well, not really hard, but you know what i mean? ifeel like daddy's going to be really proud of me. rob has arrived to congratulate his daughter macy and his sisterjo. hi, daddy. daddy, you can guess what. i did the peak. 0h! well done! i did it, rob, and you wouldn't have thought i would have done that, would you? no. no way. i can't do it and i've had, like, 12 million breaks. 12 million breaks... yeah. but she did it and she should be proud. and you're going to be snug in a rug. lindsey is exhausted. the thought of one man is keeping her going, and at the end, from somewhere, she finds the energy to run. so, we ran the last probably quarter of a mile. as we were coming down the hill, i saw macy and mayo, and so it was great to see them,

and then just obviously seeing rob there. the first one, all the kids were on our hands and knees. neveragain! how proud are you of your family? it was just such an emotional time i think for both of us. for rob to be there and supporting myself and his family and friends that were doing it was really nice. at the end of a long day, they have conquered the yorkshire three peaks. but for this family, the challenge isn't over. we're joined now by someone else taking on a fundraising challenge for rob — jamie peacock, former england captain and team—mate of rob's. good morning to you. good morning, sally. we have just seen the family

and lindsey doing that incredible challenge, it was such an immense day, tell us about your challenge? yes, it was in incredible thing what rob's family did. the challenge i will be undertaking on saturday, it is an ultramarathon, it's running 33 miles with 7000ft of climb across exmoor, dealing with storm alex as well, so it is going to be a bit of fun but a big challenge as well to try and raise money obviously for rob and the same as rob, to raise awareness for mnd. how important is it for you? you have known rob for so many years, how important is it for you to be able to do something? it's hugely important. rob was an incredible player but he's also a wonderful teammate, he was the guy who was the heart and soul of the dressing room, he was inspirational to myself and all the players who played alongside, just because of how courageous he was as a player. he's completely different to most by he's completely different to most rugby league players of his size but

he didn't let that stop him being hugely influential. as teammates, it is great to be there during the good times but i think a proper teammate is there when things are difficult and things need to be done. and you've seen that with all of rob's teammates, there is lots of people raising money, and that's why ijust wa nt to raising money, and that's why ijust want to do my best to raise money for him, his family, and just raise awareness of mnd and more research and more funds needs to go into finding a cure for it. robert loves to chat, he has always been a big charter and a joker, and sadly, mnd has taken that billy away from him —— that ability away from him, i know he has got different ways to communicate now, but his voice was the one of the first things to go. can you still have a laugh and a chat with him, and how do you do that? yes, 100%. rob is chat with him, and how do you do that? yes, 10096. rob is a really funny guy. one of the great things he did when we played was to bring the young players through and make sure they felt at home and he has still got that same wicked sense of

humour. obviously he can't talk as much now but when we go around, three orfour of us much now but when we go around, three or four of us players go around and we talk about the old times and you can see the spark in his eyes, he still gets to laugh but also he has got modern technology now so he likes to use a number of different ways to be able to text and get across his humour. and i think that positivity and humour is helping him in his fight against the disease. how aware are you of the by disease. how aware are you of the rugby family right now, because that is something that i am hugely aware of over the last year or so, the reaction of people to rob and also to doddie weir and stephen darby, the other men we've been following with mnd, the reaction of people to them has been incredible? yes, it has just been absolutely wonderful, i think. and at times a little bit overwhelming. for rob. and it shows how close rugby league is as a community but i just how close rugby league is as a community but ijust think how close rugby league is as a community but i just think for how close rugby league is as a community but ijust think for me it speaks volumes about rob as himself.

i think people have so much respect for how he conducted himself as a person and how he played the actual sport and people, no matter what their club sport and people, no matter what theirclub in sport and people, no matter what their club in rugby league, want to come and support rob and i think with rob as well, and also doddie weir, itjust goes beyond the sport as well and people realise it is such a divinity to disease, so brutal, and people want to do things about it. i think it is wonderful to see, in what has been a particularly difficult time for everybody over the last 6—8 months. difficult time for everybody over the last 6-8 months. tell me a bit more about your challenge tomorrow. because of covid, it is not what you we re because of covid, it is not what you were originally expecting to do? that's right. i was going to be running on the 19th of september through chamonix, through the alps, but due to quarantine i am able to do that. so instead, i am going to be running the miles across exmoor, 33 miles, it is an organised race. i have run three marathons before but

they have all been on the flat and i think it is the ascent that makes this one difficult, the 2000 metres of climbing. and i and probably not the best size to run a marathon, i am still over 100 kilos, but it is to raise money for a great person. we have a just giving sight and we wa nt to we have a just giving sight and we want to raise as much money as we can both formnd want to raise as much money as we can both for mnd and for rob. i think having storm alex has added another little factor into the challenge. but it should be good fun. jamie, we're seeing pictures of yourtraining, fun. jamie, we're seeing pictures of your training, when it gets tough tomorrow, what is going to keep you going? 10096 rob is. i think the challenge rob is going through, it is nothing compared with running an ultramarathon, it is just one step after another. rob is in one of the greatest battles of all, which is for his life, and one that he can keep going. so it is nothing, compared to that, and he will be in my thoughts once i get past mile 20,

he will be my inspiration, and also for simon dent who is running it alongside me as well. it is great to talk to you, jamie peacock, the very best of luck tomorrow, we will be following you. thank you very much. good luck to jamie. if you, or someone you know has been affected by the issues raised this morning, you can find help and support on the bbc actionline website, at bbc.co.uk/actionline. there was jamie saying, he is perhaps not such a great runner. he isa perhaps not such a great runner. he is a brilliant run. he loves running, he loves marathons. he is going to be fine tomorrow. it's really interesting because you've done a lot with this and people appreciate it, someone hasjust messaged just now, sadly, appreciate it, someone hasjust messagedjust now, sadly, saying, thank you for devoting coverage to this, it is a cruel illness which is nice so many their right to expression. you were talking about the comedy, the joy of laughing and cracking jokes, and how that has

been dampened, but there is still a way to communicate that affection to his family. and i would say thank you very much to rob burrow and his family who have let us in and opened their doors and welcome that into that family over the last several months and you can still see the i°y, months and you can still see the by you months and you can still see the joy, you can still see his sense of humour. makes me laugh every time. thank you very much. good to celebrate inspirational people. and staying on that theme, in a way, now. . . earlier this week, sir david attenborough sat down with louise for an exclusive interview, but she wasn't the only one who had some burning questions for him. there were plenty from his younger fans, and he was only too happy to answer them. let's take a look. hello, david, my name is elizabeth and i am six years old. what is your most favourite country you have visited? my most favourite country is home. it's where i live. that's where i really love. on the other hand, i do love the galapagos, because there, the animals aren't afraid of anyone,

and you can go up to a bird like a frigate bird or a gannet or a booby, which are big birds, the size of a turkey, and they would take no notice of you. it's absolutely wonderful. and all the animals are like that. there are land iguanas and marine iguanas, you can swim in the sea, you can swim alongside sea lions that swim alongside you. and that's wonderful. there are even, and this is really extraordinary, not only are there sea lions, and it's on the equator, where it's very hot, there are also penguins, think of that! hello, my name is robert and i am seven years old and i would like to ask, how are we going to save the planet? by working together and not wasting things and agreeing to help one another in solving the problems. hi, my name is penny, i am ten years old and i would like to ask, how did it feel having your face

as a cake on great british bake off? well, i didn't actually feel it! and i didn't actually see the cake! but it's a great compliment, isn't it, to have a cake carrying your picture, so i'm very proud that someone should want to put it on a cake. hi, david, my name's svic, and i'm eight years old. my question is, have you ever been scared of an animal, and if you have, which one? well, there are some animals you should be scared of. i mean, i tell you, a king cobra is an animal you ought to be scared of. i mean, the king cobra is getting on for ten foot long or something, i mean, it's longer than you are, and it can rear up, and what's more, it makes a noise, a sort of growling noise, when it does. and it's got a bite that is certain death. so, if you aren't frightened of a king cobra, you jolly well ought to be, or you ought to be extremely expert and sure of what you're doing.

so, king cobras, iwould be frightened of, if a king cobra came around the corner now, i would be on that desk before you knew where you were. hi, david, i'm alia and i'm six years old. i made a poster to help save endangered animals, but i was wondering what else i could do? don't waste, and encourage everybody you know to persuade them we've got to have international agreements to save the world. even when you're ten. mummy and daddy, put in those people who make our laws, and ask them to make sure we make international laws that are going to help the planet. i love the fact that the one little girl had her cat sitting with her when she asked the question, very appropriate. sorry, i'm just when she asked the question, very appropriate. sorry, i'mjust being told it was a jack russell puppy. it was so small! sorry! it's a good job

you're not the nature expert, isn't it? well, i'm not, clearly! sir david attenborough's new documentary a life on our planet is out in cinemas now, and will be on netflix next week. the book with the same name is also available now. it wouldn't be breakfast if we didn't have a mistake like that at some point. we are not starting the ask charlie segment any time soon. we could, but whether or not you get any correct answers... ! coming up later on the show... sir michael palin has described travel as his "addiction", but he had to adopt a slower pace of life during lockdown. thankfully for us, it's given him a chance to reflect on his amazing journeys, which he revisits for his new tv series my travels of a lifetime. we'll talk to him later. good morning from bbc

london. london hospitals have devised a new strategy to keep non—covid patients safe, even if the capital sees a large second surge of cases. they are looking to create dedicated hubs, where non—covid patients will receive routine, elective treatments and operations. the purpose is to avoid adding to the already huge backlog of patients waiting for treatments such as hip and knee replacements, cataract surgery or kidney stone removal. there are questions over the future of the bakerloo line extension, after the project was left off a list of priorities for government funding. the proposals would see the tube line extend to lewisham. but it has effectively been postponed after transport for london didn't include it in a revised list of project priorities seeking centralfunding. it's because they say they are "being realistic about what is affordable over the next decade", although tfl said the extension was "not on hold". transport for london has not asked the government for funding it has been revealed that a temporary ferry service is now the prefered solution while hammersmith bridge remains shut.

the plan is to have the ferry in place by early next year. the hammersmith bridge taskforce, working towards reopenning it, revealed in a statement that other solutions, including a temporary bridge, are still being considered. the inaugural windrush caribbean film festival takes place this week. it aims to celebrate the contributions and impact of the windrush generation on life in the uk today. over the six days, audiences can watch films, engage in discussions, and participate in master classes, all from the comfort of their own homes. let's take a look at the travel situation now. on the tube, the bakerloo line is part suspended at stonebridge park and harrow and wealdstone. there is also a part of suspension on london overground at the moment. on the roads a40, delays due to one lane closure westbound between polish war memorial and hillingdon circus due to burst water main.

there are queues on the a406 southbound from ilford to beckton. now the weather, with elizabeth rizzini. hello, good morning. very wet and windy at times over the next few days. there is a met office weather warning in place for southern home counties for the rest of the day today, for heavy rain and strong winds. this is from storm alex, which is going to be pushing northwards this morning. tricky travelling conditions for the rush—hour this morning. strong gusts of wind around at times, plenty of surface water. but it moves northwards and it should dry out and brighten up into the afternoon. temperatures, largely academic today — watch out for the showers later this afternoon. overnight tonight, there is a separate system brewing which is going to give us some more

heavy downpours on saturday morning. there is a met office weather warning for the whole weekend across the capital, and this is for heavy rain. expect to see some further heavy downpours, particularly on saturday morning. you're watching bbc breakfast. a reminder of the top story this morning. donald trump and his wife melania have both been infected with coronavirus. in a tweet, the president said: "tonight, the first lady and i tested positive for covid—19. we will begin our quarantine and recovery process immediately. we will get through this together!" one of the president's closest advisors, hope hicks, also has the disease. the white house doctor said the president and first lady are both well at this time, and will stay at the white house during their convalescence. the hill political reporter julia manchester says it could have a big impact on the upcoming election. the president of the united states, who i

might add, is 74—years—old so he is automatically in that higher risk category. we also know that he is medically obese so that also puts him in a high risk category. and on top of that, we are about a month out from an election, days after president trump came into contact, albeit socially distanced contact, with former vice presidentjoe biden who is 77—years—old. this is a very, very serious development right now. and going forward, you know, it'll be interesting to see how the white house and the campaign approaches this so close to an election. we are still awaiting reaction from the biden campaign, it's the middle of the night here so i'm sure we'll hear in the next couple of hours or so. but yes, a very, very serious development, you know, in us politics today. it's 8:31am. let's move on to some other stories this morning.

coronavirus restrictions put many people's holiday plans on hold this year, and left us reminiscing about the places we've visited in the past. sir michael palin is no different. after 20 years of making some of the nation's favourite travel programmes, the monty python star is taking a look back at some of his most memorable adventures for his new tv series. we'll catch up with him in a moment, but first let's take a look. the bearers who are going with this. i remembered, at the last moment, they might come in useful. when i was growing up, i mean, the 19505, no one travelled very far, you know, nottingham may be, leeds, but that was about it. goodbye! to suddenly find myself being out there, doing things that would be unbelievable when i was growing up, it was so exciting and it was so...

liberating! the idea was beautifully simple. it was a race against the clock. i would trace the journey of cilia spoke, the hero of the classic 19th century novel around the world in 80 days. land and sea, no planes allowed, could i make it around the world in 80 days? how lovely seeing those images. it makes you think, doesn't it? and sir michaeljoins us now from north london. how lovely to see you. you have spent a career observing people and we have had the opportunity of observing you while you were waiting to talk to us. you have the most enormous amount of, tea or coffee? i have seen you slurping! well, it is a cop and it is it is shackleton, i'm sorry, shackleton, the explorer!

the shackleton society, they obviously drank a lot of tea when they went to the antarctic so they needed big mugs. cheers, by the way. is it needed big mugs. cheers, by the way. isita needed big mugs. cheers, by the way. is it a cup of tea? yes. may i ask, charlie rather rudely said he is so you slurping, are you a slipper? i am, so it is fine if you are. thank you, i am, so it is fine if you are. thank you, lam am, so it is fine if you are. thank you, i am not delicate. am, so it is fine if you are. thank you, lam not delicate. if am, so it is fine if you are. thank you, i am not delicate. if it is there i will drink it. i always think it is going to be taken away from me. i know the feeling. you think you are coming on bbc brea kfast to think you are coming on bbc breakfast to talk about your amazing travels in your fantastic career and you are asked about a cup of tea. let's go back to the business of travel. let's get something straight. i am looking behind you, you are at home and presumably be not unlike everyone else, you haven't been away? i haven't been away, i've had a rather extraordinary year. i don't think i've really left home. i had a heart operation about a year ago and that took me six months to recover and i re cove red took me six months to recover and i recovered and felt absolutely fine

and then suddenly covid happened so i have been here most of the time. and it's actually been a rather pleasant process, rather like the series, reflecting back on all the things i've done without it all being a bit of a blur in the past. i now know a little bit more about why idid now know a little bit more about why i did what i did. we've shown you looking at what you did. but what are your reflections then, has it been a rather reflective period for you? yes. because i don't really, i've done so many troubles, that in a sense, i'm not quite sure if i believe what i've done but now i can look at them and not only believe that we did these journeys but also, i've been reading through my diaries again, listening to tape recordings i made while i was making the journey is themselves. and i think i know a bit more about why i did it and thought i was feeling, actually, when i did it which is quite

interesting, i was not at all confident to start with. ijust thought, what am i doing? how am i going to fill six hours for the bbc? well, you've done it and it's rather wonderful but how do you feel? are you one of those people at the moment who obviously, used to travel a lot and had some great experiences and things, my life, this is what i was about and i feel robbed that i cannot do this. or are you one of those people who thinks i've travelled so much and i'm actually really grateful i got to do this. at least i've got those memories and i haven't been short changed in that department. i feel incredibly fortunate and i'm not sitting here thinking, oh god, i missed out on travel, quite the opposite, i've done so much travelling. i feel very bad for the younger adventurers and travellers and there really is a great appetite amongst younger people now to go and see the world and of course, for the next few months, maybe the next few years, it's going to be very difficult for them to have the freedom i had. sol hope i willjust be able to

encourage people to want to travel, to understand the point of travel, evenif to understand the point of travel, even if i'm not actually moving anywhere. do you know, michael, i may have even asked you this question before and if i have i apologise. it's not about the tea, is it? we've moved on, more serious matters now. where was the most unlikely place that people met you who reminded you that they knew you from monty python? was there a scenario, they couldn't possibly know who i am or what i did before? or was the most unlikely? a little island between alaska and russia, just about one of the most remote islands in the world, it's volcanic, surrounded by ice most of the year, a small inuit community on the island and the wind blew, it was pretty wild. and there were three or four of the inuit elders who were

looking after us and they seemed to be very helpful and we walked through the village and i did a piece to camera. and we went down towards the shore and i had people looking at me with some interest and they provided a sealskin boat for us to go across, back to alaska and just as we were about to get in about one of them finally plucked up the courage and came in and said rg the courage and came in and said rg the guy from monty python and the holy grail? you know, they were within range of the satellites of alaska and monty python and the holy grail had indeed been on the television the night before! and i did my impersonation! you actually did my impersonation! you actually did it for them in that moment? right there? i did it later, privately! but it was lovely, really, great moment. fabulous! when you look back and you were looking back on this programme, we sit here, don't we, sounds as if i am being

really philosophical and we talk about the way the world has changed, we never thought we'd see a time like this, over the past six months. when you look back, say, for example, china, you look back at china and you see how you are travelling the world in 80 days then and you think about it now, does it still surprise you how different life is? in the case of china, it surprises me a lot, when i travelled to china first, around the world in 80 days, it was a communist state, it still is a communist run country but then people were in mau jackets, there are bicycle jams in the street, when i went back most re ce ntly street, when i went back most recently there were cars, not bicycles. what had been shanty towns we re bicycles. what had been shanty towns were replaced by big, shiny, a story tall blocks which they built incredibly fast so i think china, particularly, has changed a lot but i think it away when i was

travelling the world, a lot of the sort of advanced countries seem to have advanced very fast and there we re lots of have advanced very fast and there were lots of glossy, big buildings whereas out in the countryside, life was going on pretty much the way it had done before. and that's the bit i like most, actually. it's funny, isn't it, naga used the word philosophical, but the world has become quite divisive, the way they are encouraged to become of the way people are, the positions they take on things. do you think much about that? when you meet people, you meet people. what are your thoughts on that, about, to what extent the world has changed? that, about, to what extent the world has changed ?|j that, about, to what extent the world has changed? i think the world reflected through social media sometimes seems very divisive and i think social media set up provide information and people which is striking because it's competent. when i've been round the world and travelled a lot in all sorts of different places, the general

feeling is of warmth and hospitality, friendship, people wanting to connect with you. —— it's combated. it's not confrontational, it's rather rather welcoming and i think there are two sides of the world, that way, the technological, social media world, but i think it's got a bit grumpy over the years. bit grumpy. i don't know if you can see is, we are going to raise a cap to you, at last year. and i slurped for you! thank you so much. delightful. i said for you! thank you so much. delightful. isaid i for you! thank you so much. delightful. i said i was delighted when i heard we were talking to michael palin. you can watch "michael palin: travels of a lifetime" this sunday evening, on bbc two, at 8 o'clock. there will be a lot of people who get so much pleasure out of that. he

is lovely, so fantastic, just a lovely presence, as are sarah, taking a look at the weather for us. we were almost bragging we had a cup of tea, or copy, i hope someone has made one for you? i am dry, all empty. send one over for me. the weather today looking a little bit mixed. good day for a cup of tea if you are across the south of the uk, ston alex approaching. that is going to bring us some spells of heavy rain through today and many of us will see wet weather, disruption to travel and transport possible, could be some flooding around and the strong winds to contend with. the strongest of the winds today across southern england, south wales as well, we've got storm alex which was named by the french met service, producing the strongest of the winds across north—west transport across the channel in southern england, gusts of 55—70 miles an hour towards the channel isles. heavy rain just

working its way northwards through the midlands, and north wales, by the midlands, and north wales, by the time we get to the afternoon. still reigning reports at the south—west of england as well. but a different date today. quite a chilly start for parts of northern england, northern ireland, some fog patches around, they should clear quickly, one or two showers for northern ireland and north of scotland, showery and breezy for the northern isles but for the rest of scotland, much of northern ireland and into northern england it should still —— state dry and bright. feeling cooler in the wind and rain in the south coast evening and overnight more rain piling on across much of england and wales, coming in from the east, heavy in the south for a time. a soggy start to your saturday. in the south and east, drier in the north—west, many of us seeing spells are pretty heavy rain through that day on saturday. sarah, thank you. just doing a little bit of tidying up, if i am honest. it's

all got to be a little bit chaotic. i was doing the tidying up, not charlie! but it is complete now, thatis charlie! but it is complete now, that is the main thing. it is 8:43am. cow manure — not something we want to think much about this early in the morning, but it turns out it could be useful to the environment. we've sent ben to a dairy farm to find out how they're converting the waste to fuel. morning, ben. good morning. if you are having your brea kfast good morning. if you are having your breakfast may be look away now, there is a lot of manure down here this morning. but this farm is running a trial, the idea turning cow manure into biofuel and that willpower at that thing, the truck that will deliver the milk up and down the country. and they create, collectively, these cows and olympic —sized swimming pool '5 worth worth of manure, they get rid of carbon footprint, forming one of the

biggest contributors to the carbon emissions and this could be one way to solve that problem. let's speak to solve that problem. let's speak to graham. good morning. we see 150 cows here, a lot of waste and what you're trying to do with this trial is reduced that carbon footprint a little. how does it work? ultimately, what are looking to do is take the slurry from the farm, we then take it to an anaerobic digestion facility, we put it into there, ultimately we extract the gas from the top, and turn it into biogas. that will run the tankers. we have in the region of 2500 tankers, vehicles out there on the road. the trial at the moment is only with two forms but as a cooperative we have 2400 dairy farmers throughout from scotland, right the way down to cornwall.“ you can't rule it out thousands of

farms up and down the country, what needs to happen, how do you make sure all forms could do this?” suppose one of the reasons of doing the trial is to find out the pitfalls, what works and how we need to adapt it but i suppose one of the considerations we need to think is scaling it up, looking at the infrastructure, the facilities to be able to do this on a bigger scale. asi able to do this on a bigger scale. as i say, we've got the farms. we have the cows. we have the count manure but ultimately we need facilities and infrastructure to be able to accompany that and make it happen. and the plants that would convert it, there is not that many of them in the country so you need more investment in that as well? absolutely. we would need to look at potentially scaling that up. but the idea of the trial is, let's prove that it can work, that financially, it is viable. i think there is lots of benefits not just from the back

perspective but also our farmers as well. good luck, just two now, in the trial, hopefully thousands more to come. so, one of the big ideas, to come. so, one of the big ideas, to try and use of some of this waste and make sure that it is put to better use, all to try and bring down our carbon emissions as an economy, as a country. and certainly be glad that you can't smell what we can smell down here today. because we are talking about chat, very good uses, but it doesn't stink. i will see you soon. be careful where you tread, ben! that ship has sailed! never mind, they're wellies, that's what they're for. it's the 40th anniversary of the london marathon this weekend — and in any other year we could have expected big celebrations. but this is 2020 — and so coronavirus means this year's event is being restricted to elite athletes only, who will compete on a looped course in st james's park.

graham satchell reports. david coleman: the first mile is very fast, and my word, they have stampeded away. 1981, the very first london marathon. since then, only ten people have completed each race. they're called the ever presents. 87—year—old ken jones, training here with his daughter heather, is one of them. what motivates to get the next medal, every time i do it, i'm thinking of the medal. and i'm now thinking of the 40th medal, i want that, very badly. this is the first one here. it's so small, look how tiny it is. and then after all those years, all the medals you can see here, this is the 39th. look at the difference in them. tremendous. and then over to the right... the pandemic means only elite athletes are running in london this year. ken will do the marathon at home in northern ireland. it's very enjoyable running here in the countryside. there will be no crowds, no people, just a few neighbours

waving, and that's it. at the height of the pandemic, this person was looking after covid patience at the brighton and sussex university. it was tough, it was really, really tough, and we're used to seeing patient die. i worked in oncology for a long time and we do see a lot of our patients, you know, coming to an end, but normally it's people that we've been on a journey with. and this was different. so it was quite hard to take. it was quite hard to take, yeah. zingy person will run the london marathon in brighton, raising money for her hospital charity and an hiv support group. hi, my name isjez allinson, i am a squadron leader in the royal air force, i am also known as the running sorm trooper. it wouldn't be the london marathon without a bit of dressing up. squadron leader allinson has been training at his raf

base in oxfordshire, and remarkably, on deployment in afghanistan. i managed to do 1000 laps of our little helicopter area, so it was about 270 miles. i can't bend my knees very well, so i might look like a storm trooper, but if you know your star wars, i run like c—3po. jez will be running the london marathon from bristol to bath and back for two charities, make a wish and spread a smile. may the force be with you, sir. where did you get your costume from? it was just ordered online! did you type wolf outfit? that's exactly what i did. paul is running the charity for lupus uk. you can see what he's done here. it's never, ever going to compare to the atmosphere and the excitement of the london marathon itself, but we've still got that in the future to look forward to,

so, i'm just pleased and proud to be able to do something in the meantime. look at that, now you're in the jungle! i'm a better runner than i am a... technical? this is looking better, liz! it took a little while to establish contact with the rhinos, but it was worth it. ijust think it's so important that we've been given the choice to run it on sunday. a lot of people raise a lot of money for charity, and we all feel that we still need to run that race. and i should just ask you one question about what it's like to run a marathon dressed as a rhino? it's like you're a celebrity for the day! so, when we did the london marathon, it's literally hours and hours of people, like, rhino, rhino! all the way along! it's wonderful.

but as soon as you take it off, that's the end of it. and here are the ladies behind the horns, jill and liz, running the london marathon in cornwall and oxfordshire, to help save the rhino. everything about this year's marathon is different and strange. but the costumes, the fundraising, the spirit, is reassuringly familiar. graham satchell, bbc news. i was chuckling at bits of that, and do you know who else was chuckling at bits of that... baroness tanni grey—thompson will be on the bbc‘s commentary team for the london marathon this weekend. idid see i did see you chuckling, the rhino was particularly funny?” i did see you chuckling, the rhino was particularly funny? ijust love it, there is something on london marathon day where you see people on the tube going to the start line in costu mes, the tube going to the start line in costumes, but the fact that people are still going to do it near their own home is absolutely amazing so if udc somebody running past in a costu me, udc somebody running past in a costume, give them a cheer, because it is going to be quite different

this year. i have run one marathon, and the crowds are so important. you've had so much experience of commentating with the marathon, and i suppose it doesn't surprise you, that people willjust not give up on it, they will make sure it exists in some shape or form? it's amazing. on the day that the london marathon was meant to be, i saw lots of people running near where i live and one of them ran past me saying, my first london marathon, i finish them ran past me saying, my first london marathon, ifinish in 200 metres and i got quite emotional, so metres and i got quite emotional, so me and my husband followed him and cheered as he got to his finishing line. it is amazing for raising money, pushing personal boundaries, and there is 150,000 children who have signed up online to run a mini marathon. so it shows the pull that the marathon has for people to get out and be active. so, what we know is that of course, the elite events are taking place, but not as normal, so can you explain, because i know there is technology involved, there isa there is technology involved, there is a specific area they're going to

race around, how does it all worked? so, they're going to be running 19 laps, which is very different for how people normally run marathons. in the wheelchair race there is going to be some sprint laps in there. to chop it up a little bit. but to be honest, the elite guys, they just look at the blue line. but to be honest, the elite guys, theyjust look at the blue line. as much as we love commentating and say in where people are running past, for the elite guys, they willjust be looking at their clock and position in the race. the women's running race is really strong this year. there has been a bit of talk about the world record, the weather forecast isn't great at the moment but the london marathon have done a huge amount in terms of testing, protecting the athletes, asking athletes to isolate before they come. and i think a lot of athletes arejust come. and i think a lot of athletes are just really happy that there is going to be... it is a limited race in terms of numbers but they will be able to race this year. there is some technology that they're going to be wearing, some of the athletes, is that right, called the bump, something about an alert between the

athletes? my picture of athletes at that level is that they will do anything. obviously that is a concern, being so close to each other? they have been wearing this, it is compulsory for every single person in the race, it is a lanyard, and it is like a big circle around the neck and if they get within two metres of each other, it beeps, and it is also track and trace so it can monitor exactly where people are. talking to the team earlier this week, they have rearranged the dining area at the hotel because it was very dining area at the hotel because it was very quickly you could see people were getting too close to each other. two metres is further than most people think it is. it shows how much the marathon have put into it to make sure that everybody is protected. lovely to chat to you, baroness tanni grey—thompson, looking forward to the event, i am sure you will have a great day under very different circumstances. thank you very much. good advice as well, if you do see anyone outside

running, looking really, really tired on sunday, they probably will be doing their marathon, so give them a cheer. you can follow live coverage of the london marathon from 7am on sunday morning on bbc two. we're celebrating a bit of an anniversary today. it's exactly 20 years since bbc breakfast as we know it today was first broadcast on television. back in the day, there were two separate programmes, so bbc one and the news channel merged to form the new bbc breakfast. let's take a look back at our last two decades. hello and welcome to breakfast from bbc news, with sophie raworth and jeremy bowen. it's six o'clock on monday the 2nd of october. good morning... this is breakfast with dan walker... naga munchetty. .. louise minchin... charlie stayt. congratulations! is he still talking?! it's lovely and sunny with just a wee bit of cloud around. do not worry, we will look at all the different bits of it this morning.

the aa is warning motorists to allow plenty of time for their journeys. .. here's mike bushell with all the sport. thanks, bill. 75 years ago today! today we are in llandudno with the red sofa. how long have you been presenting? 48 years. sorry, i feel like i've let you down. i know, i'm pretty disappointed! our own deckchair. the sofa is so last year! this is rufus and imogen. good morning both of you. plenty of shocking twists is passed not in just on line of duty! plenty of shocking twists — not in general, just on line of duty! it's a group hug! we've recovered! i think we should have practised this beforehand, hey? so... they can sandwich, anyone? you wear these colourful hats

are basically to make it more visual basically to make it more visual as a spectator sport. i went for the first toss of the new pound coin, and it sort of disappeared down here somewhere. have you got it yet? no. you see, that's how it should be delivered. 0h! more on that later! yes. here's the news, travel and weather wherever you are! anything to say about that? why don't we hugged like that. or why didn't we, when we could? well, it's interesting watching that... feels so close together! you like it, you prefer it, don't you? you're watching bbc breakfast.

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this is bbc news with the latest headlines. us president donald trump and the first lady melania test positive for coronavirus and go into quarantine. announcing the test results on twitter the president says he and the first lady "will get through this together" it comes after his one of his closest aides — hope hicks — tested positive for coronavirus — the pair have taken several trips together in the past week we'll be live in washington for more on this story calls for the resignation of mp margaret ferrier — who travelled by train from london to scotland despite knowing she had covid—19, her scottish national party colleagues join those saying she should go. i think she will have to reflect very carefully on whether or not she