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we could see numerous hundreds of convictions overturned, or we could see a raft of civil claims come on the back of that, because of course we're talking here of clients that have gone into debt, have lost their homes, have lost their careers, have potentially been made bankrupt. the chairman of the post office said today he was sincerely sorry for historicalfailings which seriously affected some postmasters, and that there will be reforms which prevent such past events ever happening again. seema can't get back the years of hurt or her time in prison for a crime she said she didn't commit. but for dozens of those involved in a scandal that has seen many lives ruined, today there was some relief. i had a strong feeling always, whenever you are fighting for truth, you always get justice. in this case it was delayed,
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but at least we got it. katy austin, bbc news. the national crime agency says there's evidence the government's flagship loan scheme, designed to help small firms affected by covid—19, is being exploited by organised criminals. a bbc news investigation this week revealed gangs are setting up bogus companies and getting tens of thousands of pounds for every application to the scheme. plaid cymru leader adam price has used his conference speech this evening to strongly criticise the handling of the coronavirus pandemic by the government in london. delivering the speech online, he said the experience of the last six months had accelerated the need for wales to chart its own course, independent of westminster. one of ireland's leading poets, derek mahon, has died at the age of 78, following a short illness. his central place in irish culture was illustrated by the decision of the broadcaster rte to use his poem "everything
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is going to be all right" to end a news bulletin in march, at the start of the coronavirus pandemic. fergal keane looks back at his life and one of his most famous works. derek mahon was a working—class belfast protestant who transcended the divisions of his time to become a voice of insight and empathy, hailed in immense regard by fellow poets like seamus heaney. living quietly in the south of ireland, he was a private man who preferred to let his poetry do the talking. as the coronavirus pandemic spread, his poem everything is going to be all right became widely popular. it is a fitting tribute to the memory of one of the most gifted poets of his time. how should i not be glad to contemplate/ the clouds clearing beyond the dormer window/ and a high tide reflected on the ceiling?
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there will be dying, there will be dying. but there is no need to go into that. the poems flow from the hand unbidden/ and the hidden source is the watchful heart. the sun rises in spite of everything/ and the far cities are beautiful and bright. i lie here in a riot of sunlight/ watching the daybreak and the clouds flying. everything is going to be all right. the poet derek mahon, who's died at the age of 78. returning to our main story, and donald trump's positive test for coronavirus. he's now been taken to the walter reed military hospital in maryland. barbara plett usher is there for us now.
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barbara. baba, bring us up to date. this is a late—breaking development here. us media is reporting that the president will be brought here to the walter reed military hospital, that he will be coming here for tests, and that he will arrive shortly, he will take the marine one helicopter from the white house to this hospital. officials quoted by the media say he is not seriously ill, but because of his age and other risk factors, they don't want to ta ke other risk factors, they don't want to take any chances. they are taking as many precautions as possible. they say he has been working throughout the afternoon from his residence, taking calls, and that he will continue to do so from the hospital, he might be here for a couple of days, but an executive suite has been set up so that he can continue to work. so they have been saying from the white house that he has only mild symptoms. his doctor put out a statement saying that he is fatigued but in good spirits. he has been given a cocktail of antibodies. the message from the white house is still very much that he is in control, these are tests for precautionary measures that he
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will keep working. barbara, thank you for that, barbara plett usher in maryland outside the walter reed military hospital. there's continued coverage of the developing donald trump story throughout the night over on the news channel. now on bbc one, time for the news where you are. have a very good night. there is a team of doctors and nurses who have a fully equipped surgery nurses who have a fully equipped surgery in the east wing and are capable of looking after the president and the first lady and the senior staff. 50 there is obviously something that they feel cannot be done here that may be can be monitored at the walter reed hospital. what that is is a very, very big question indeed tonight. one other thing i would add into this is that word about this
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potentially happening has been around for a little while. they waited until after the markets had closed before any announcement was made that the president was being moved to walter reed from the white house. and i think that there must bea house. and i think that there must be a real alarm and concern about what this might do globally, the announcement the president is being taken to hospital. in a situation where has not been planned weeks in advance. very different. welcome to oui’ advance. very different. welcome to our viewers in the uk. president trumpet is being moved to a medical facility —— present trump. john topol is on the white house lawn for us “— topol is on the white house lawn for us —— john topol. anthony
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when we heard the news about the president being diagnosed, the markets did take a hit. do you think the white house has been sitting on this decision when they've known during the course of the day that they might need to be moved? well, i think that is indeed a possibility. that's going to cause a response. that's going to cause a responsem also the case that this virus can affect people. i've known people who have had covid—i9 and symptoms can change very quickly. during the course of one day. that is what has been so difficult for medics, it
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presents itself in different ways at different times. at first it was a dry cough and fever, then it was about the loss of sense of smell. it keeps changing its manifestations. so what started off as mild symptoms, and donald trump made a speech last night and he seemed pretty much ok. the white house is confirming he's tested positive for coronavirus. they are saying mild symptoms and he took an antibody cocktail, and that was administered without any bad response. everything seems to be going normal, and then suddenly, you hear helicopters arrived i saw tweet you sent out hitting this had echoes of what we heard initially from prime minister boris johnson when he was first diagnosed with covid—i9 and the reports from downing street read he was well, and it almost seems the next day, there
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he is exiting hospital. i guess it raises the issue of our weeping told the true story and the whole story —— are we being told? the true story and the whole story -- are we being told? exactly. one huge difference between that and what happened with borisjohnson is that downing street is minute compared to the white house. downing street does not have a medical unit with fully equipped teams of doctors and nurses in the way that the white house does. the white house has a surgery, house does. the white house has a surgery, it has a sick pay, it has the facilities to deal with quite serious situations, and that hasn't been deemed good enough for this occasion. so we got donald trump going off to hospital. with boris johnson, there was a longer lead in, but it was all that stuff about precaution, precaution, percussion. then next thing we know, intensive care. that was an absolute shock when you heard that particular news.
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the white house is doing what is expected, seeking to reassure the american people, and there are trying to do their best but i think still, there is an awful lot we don't know. i know exactly where you're standing. the pract secretary office is ten guards from where you're standing. —— press secretary. is there a sense of... 7 you're standing. —— press secretary. is there a sense of... ? i would give a slightly different answer to it. the white house feel different today than it did yesterday or last week or last month or for the last seven or eight months. we are able to go to the briefing room, which is where thejunior offices to go to the briefing room, which is where the junior offices were. then you go into the west wing proper and you go into the west wing proper and you can go to upper press, which is
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where the press secretary sits and works. you're only a few paces away from the oval office. for the past few months, i've been a punish —— astonish help people work sheet by jaw and they are not wearing the face mask. everyone outside here now that i can see, they've all got theirface mask on. i was that i can see, they've all got their face mask on. i was struck by those pictures on wednesday of hope hicks and jared kushner and the other senior members of the white house team ambling out to marine one to catch the flight that would take them to the air force base. no one had a mask on. it's as though the coronavirus doesn't exist. it is sometimes felt like that at the trump rallies were easy thousands of people who are all packed in tight, there is no social distancing and few of them are wearing masks. you think this is in complete contravention of what are the centers for disease control guidelines. yet, they are going on andi guidelines. yet, they are going on and i think there is going to be a
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major re—examination and you cannot exaggerate the sense of the jolt that people in the white house have felt today with the news that the president had tested positive. john, thank you very much for that. i can come back to you later as well for more information. i did have a conversation with the former senior white house official who had been working on the coronavirus task force, and she did tell me that the pressure within the white house not to wear masks was intense. it was well known within the on the white house that the president didn't like people wearing masks, and even though they were trying to put out the message from the task force of the message from the task force of the mass was a good idea, they felt they were constantly buffering up against the political pressure from the oval office not to do so. let's go to maryland and the bbc‘s barbara plett—usher. john made the point that the white house is pretty
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well—equipped when it comes to medicalfacilities. what well—equipped when it comes to medical facilities. what is the implication of moving the president away from the white house? on the one hand, i think the question would be is his condition more serious than what has been suggested, because the message out of the white house this afternoon as very much been that he's experiencing mild his is millions —— mild symptoms. having said that, what the white house is that about bringing him here to walter reed military hospital is that they just want to take as many precautions as possible, that he is actually going to stay here for a few days for test, but you will be working. there is an executive suite for this purpose. he was working this afternoon, taking calls, and he would continue to do that here but officials have said because of his age and other risk factors, they just want to have him in a place
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where any sort of eventuality could be dealt with. but they have not changed the message that he is basically hasn't taken a turn for the worse, his doctor said he was in good spirits. there's been no official notice that this tradition has changed. they are presenting it as abundance of caution, and they're also saying they will continue to work. just to be clear, the caution would be what, exactly? what could he get or what might he need that he could get at walter reed that he couldn't get in terms of treatment at the white house? well, i don't have the specifics on that, but if you think about how covid has gone over the past months, the very worst scenario would be he needed to put ona scenario would be he needed to put on a ventilator. there's no suggestion that is case, but one can imagine that given he is the president and given that he is in a
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high—risk category, the white house would want him in a place where every in eventuality would be dealt with. marine one doesn't take very long, so you think an emergency he would be quickly deployed, but what they are saying at the moment, this is for task but he will be staying here for a couple days. let'sjust run through why he is in a high risk category. of course. the main risk, the biggest risk is his age, 7a. seniors are the most vulnerable, they are the category in which there's been the most asked. also his weight, he's clinically obese so that would be an underlying risk factor. those of the two main things, but it has to be said that even though the statistics for that group of people is the worst, there are still many in that category that of surprised —— that have

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