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hello and welcome to our look ahead to what the the papers will be bringing us tomorrow. with me are the journalist and broadcaster, caroline frost and the parliamentary journalist, tony grew. welcome tony grew. to you both. nice to see you. the guardian reveals information from leaked documents which show plans to simplify local lockdowns
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with a new three tier traffic—light system. meanwhile the mail looks at tonight's news that a ‘technical glitch' resulted in nearly 16,000 cases of coronavirus being missed from the government's official tally. the financial times reports a stark warning from the head of the government's vaccination task force that less than half the uk population can expect to be vaccinated against coronavirus. an exclusive for the express with the health secretary matt hancock who says brexit will help save lives by allowing new drugs to be approved faster. "i'll be back soon". the i leads on the statement made earleir by president trump — who could be discharged from hospital tomorrow — after treatment for coronavirus. the metro's front page features the story of a female police officer who chased down armed robbers in london after one stabbed her in the stomach. and "horror at the movies" — the mirror reports the news of cineworld's plans to close all its 127 cinemas until next year — with 5,500 jobs on the line.
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let's start with the figures we've been reporting that appear on the front of the daily mail and they have managed to turn this round quickly. fiasco over coronavirus count. daily toll mired in confusion with 16,000 cases most of the totals ina week with 16,000 cases most of the totals in a week and we are talking about 16,000 positive covid—19 tests. and that's a heck of a large number to have missed. 0h, that's a heck of a large number to have missed. oh, my goodness. boris johnson was quick this morning to dismiss this by saying he wasn't going to blame public health england andi going to blame public health england and i think we are hoping that we do and i think we are hoping that we do and everyone is asking and hanging on the figures for this daily basis and it's the only concrete data we have going forward and the messages have going forward and the messages have been mired in confusion and made with u—turns and
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interpretations as suits the beholder. and these figures are meant to be concrete and reliable, so meant to be concrete and reliable, so when they fail us, it looks like it's becoming ever more chaotic. 16,000 cases missed because of a technical glitch. that could cover a multitude of things, tony. it could. it could be an issue with some of the private testing companies that the private testing companies that the government is using who have had problems and tester had to be written off, but for once, i want to defend the government. there are hundred thousand tests done every day in the uk and these numbers seem really stark and i understand people will be concerned about it but in the grand scheme of things, in the amount of testing that is happening oi'i amount of testing that is happening ona amount of testing that is happening on a daily basis, it's not that big eight scandal. what else though does this mean for the trust that people have. if you can't trust the figures, we don't know how bad the new wave is, and if people don't
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know the truth, they don't know how seriously they ought to be taking it. this is what we have been left with the majority of the year, so borisjohnson once again this morning beating the drum, saying be seeing as you morning beating the drum, saying be seeing as you can morning beating the drum, saying be seeing as you can and andrew marr was very quick to say, what about when you tell everyone to pour out the pub at ten o'clock at night and all borisjohnson the pub at ten o'clock at night and all boris johnson could the pub at ten o'clock at night and all borisjohnson could repeat was that he was trying to balance the economy with the moral imperative to keep us healthy, so all he could tell us, once again, was to use common sense and wash our hands and give people as much space as possible and sorry to bang my personal drum but i feel that the credibility with which we receive these messages on a handbrake turn backin these messages on a handbrake turn back in the spring with that little trip to barnard castle, for me it's a lwa ys trip to barnard castle, for me it's always been a war of diminishing returns for the prime minister whatever he says to us so we are left washing our hands and crossing oui’ left washing our hands and crossing our fingers left washing our hands and crossing ourfingers and left washing our hands and crossing our fingers and hoping for the best. the police said there was nothing further to investigate in regard to that trip. tony, and the guardian,
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plan for a three tier lockdown regime and they say it is an exclusive but i'm sure i heard some of the political correspondence here gesturing towards this idea last week. i won't get into wotan isn't an exclusive. it's a proposal from the government to try and simplify the government to try and simplify the rules, which have been complicated and the prime minister himself could not explain them when asked to do so on television, so it's a three tier system and areas will be in red, amber or green and this is once again, the same with the testing thing, this is an issue of the government overpromising and under delivering, and the way in which this has been handled has been particularly poor, principally because these issues, such as lockdown and testing should be handled at a local authority level. it's absurd that the mayor of london and the mayor of manchester have no powers to lockdown their own city. all of this is being driven ce ntrally all of this is being driven centrally through the department of
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health and that's one of the major issues we have. what i'm saying is, i would expect a local authority would have a better idea of people within its area and the sort of measures that it needs to take on its local area much better than a civil servant sitting in london and the problem we had consistently is that everything is far too centralised. public health experts have said this for over six months and interviews to make and it's not happening but some simplification would surely be welcome, even those of us reporting on it every single day find our heads spinning when the rules change with such regularity. he is telling me he is defending the government and it has become more chaotic. we love the idea of a traffic light system and we can relate to that. we've been told things like this since we were children but we do need something and if the government loves a simple message, their three—pronged banners and going forward they clearly need to make something that is either bespoke to the geography and the
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demographic of those affected areas 01’ demographic of those affected areas or something we can all very simply having our hands and go forward, because at the moment it's alljust becoming, anecdotally between my friend, a bit of a fudge and it's just let's interpret it as we will and obviously that is no good with this infection rate going forward are going up. the daily mirror, horror at the movies, this is the firm saying that even though it's only temporary, they are considering closing all of their cinemas in this country and the us. not surprising because people just aren't going to the pictures like they were. exactly. as i understand it, and this was reported in the sunday times yesterday as being around the fa ct times yesterday as being around the fact that the much anticipated james bond film has been pushed to next year and my understanding bond film has been pushed to next yearand my understanding is bond film has been pushed to next year and my understanding is that when the big christopher nolan film came out, they expected loads of people to turn up and they didn't so i think it's an unfortunate commercial decision but cinemas are
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only one of dozens of arts institutions and sector facing absolute ruin in this crisis. it relates to the previous tory about this three tier lockdown in the most serious of those alert levels, hospitality and leisure businesses would just find themselves close, just blanket. it's terrible news and it all sounds very head on a stick and certainly cinema, people think thatis and certainly cinema, people think that is very low rent as a priority, but it isn't. as with any other industry this is an enormous ego system of mostly freelancers, a hugely creative industry in this country and if that fails, who knows what those people have to go back to and it could be the same for catering, hospitality, every events managementjob. it's a huge society of people and these are often freelance, contracting people with no kind of furlough or umbrella of protection and i cross my fingers for every single one of them. a look at the financial times. vaccinating
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all of uk not going to happen warns task force head, yet so many people have been pinning their hopes on this elusive vaccine and when it might become available.|j this elusive vaccine and when it might become available. i think this is the most depressing headline of all of these tonight, because as you say, the one thing we have had is the light at the end of this long tunnel to end with the idea that we will have some kind of holy grail, some vaccine that will somehow protect us all and we can go back to living our lives but it clearly isn't that simple and what we are getting here, as tony has said, the government has promised so much and failed to deliver and they are getting this message out early that this isn't going to be the case. at best, only the adults in society, 50% of the population and they've even said the ones that are very healthy won't be getting it because they don't need it as much and also there is the chance that if they do ta ke there is the chance that if they do take the vaccine and they are healthy, it might cause what they call freak harm. after the year we
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have had, nobody wants freak harm. she said it could put people at risk by having this vaccine, which is utterly counterintuitive. it's one of the things that really annoys me, the way in which certain ministers and part of the government have said that every time we get a vaccine everyone will be all right. i've seen headline saying that the vaccine will be available in three months and that fondly misunderstands how vaccines work and the cautious approach needed at the start, in any case, in terms of who will be given the vaccine and how effective it will be. we have no answers to any of these questions. i understand the coronavirus is a horrible virus and something we didn't know about this time last year so i think scientists need to be commended for the work they have done already in such a short timescale to even be thinking about being able to deliver a vaccine but it's not a silver bullet and not should be presented as one. we will talk about the headline that trump, i'll be back soon, could be
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discharged from hospital as early as monday, but not that long ago you went to see these pictures and we will show them now. president trump took a short car trip from his hospital, as many people have been camped outside to support him and he is due to spend a third night there at the walter reed facility and he appeared in the back of his armoured suv wearing a face mask and waving at his supporters. he did a u—turn and went back in. so he wasn't out for long but he did go out to say thank you, really and show that he is up and at them and wants to be back at work. the whole situation is very confusing and we don't know who to believe and how long he has had the virus that i would remind you that other than the prime minister, when he was unwell and in downing street for as much as seven days and had refused to go to hospital or declined to take medicines and was rushed to hospital and donald trump
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is not out of the woods. we do not know how long he has had it. if it's only four or five days, i'm told that the symptoms can continue for up that the symptoms can continue for up to and around two weeks and this is critical. the us presidential election is in less than a month and this is the worst possible time he could have got this virus. as i say, a huge amount of spin is going into this in terms of how to present him as well but the bottom line is, the white house has significant health ca re white house has significant health care facilities and they chose to hospital so i think there is an abundance of caution going on about his condition. and also accusations, or questions raised about the accou nts or questions raised about the accounts from various doctors would seem to contradict each other at times. goodness, me, as tony said, the whole narrative has brought up more questions than answers, just the timeline, whether he is on day three or 72 hours into diagnosis when he got the test and then went toa when he got the test and then went to a fundraiser or not, and it might
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be that someone else infected the president or someone who is culpable of infecting others. i'm sure people will pore over this forensically, but all we can do is look at the pictures and wonder. it's clearly an election like no other and was already chaotic and very high stakes and itjust got an even bit more bonkers. let's finish with the guardian, the most unusual london marathon ever. some people ran in london, the elite athletes, but what everybody, where ever you ran, you ran in the rain in furan in this country and to run that distance in any weather is extraordinary to me, but in the pouring rain, well, commendable. i wouldn't run that distance unless i was being chased, but for those that did an amazing achievement and really good to have achievement and really good to have a good news story at the end. i have several friends who ran through apocalyptic conditions today to complete the marathon, so well done to them and one thing we need to point out is that this is a huge
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fundraising opportunity for charities and they have never needed the money more than they do now. and those who ran in fancy dress costu mes, those who ran in fancy dress costumes, somebody has a sponge cake, get it? even more weighed down in this weather. i am just wondering about that poor deep sea diver who is normally still going strong three days later. his property out there somewhere and i expect to see him at somewhere and i expect to see him at some point on wednesday. but an enormous effort and personally, because it's relying on an app and people self timing, i'm wondering if i could have entered it and attached it to my dog's collar and got the first marathon rosette and the final one i would ever got. or borrow a dolphin and get it to tell you through the puddles. before we finish, laurie, thank you for getting in touch on twitter and he says no book shelves, very sophisticated, you both come with pictures. what are they? do you even know? this one? it's a famous
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impressionist painting. it is beautiful but we cannot see it that well but it looks very enticing. caroline, what is yours? this is the buy you in new orleans. you see, raising the bar every time they appear. thank you. see you in a bit. my appear. thank you. see you in a bit. my backdrop, that is people working ha rd my backdrop, that is people working hard in the newsroom. caroline and tony, we will be back at half past 11 for another look at the tapers and the man behind the counter working very hard too, his name is peter. now it is time for click. hey, welcome to click.
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hope you are doing 0k. lara's here too. how are you doing, mate? i am good thanks. this week i started talking to friends about how the winter was likely to be. would we head back to doing zoom get—togethers? what you think? there was a novelty for a couple of months in meeting friends on video chat, but then to be honest, i got fed up with them. even a antisocial geek like me realises that things are better in the flesh. so true. but the idea of heading back to video calls doesn't seem to have been missed by fashion designers. all you need to do is take a look at some of what was on show at milan and london fashion weeks, and there seems to be a bit of a theme of waist—up fashion, all about big collars and logos around the necklines. i mean, for a while now it has not seemed so important how we dress our bottom halves. dunno know what you're talking about. but listen, this week, i have actually been out and about meeting real people! and wearing proper trousers.
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these people are going to do something incredible. they are trying to make the fastest sailing boat that they can, to compete in one of the toughest ocean races that there is. and for one day only, they let me in to see how they're doing it. the america's cup is like the formula 1 of boat racing. fast, ultra—competitive, with all of the power coming from the wind. and the boats don't so much sail as fly. relatively small foils underneath the vessels act like wings that help to lift the entire hull out of the water and massively reduce drag. i learned to sail, god, you know, 35 years ago or something. i take myself back to that eight—year—old kid thinking about the boats that we are sailing in now, doing speeds over 50 knots, 65 miles an hour. i just think that is
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absolutely nuts. here in portsmouth, 0lympic champion sir ben ainslie's team is designing one of the five boats that will race next march. now the america's cup has a weird rule — and that is that whoever wins the event gets to decide all of the rules for the next one. now, i am notjust talking about the location and the date, or even how many heats there are — they get to dictate the type of boat that is used and the number of sailors you can have on board. so basically, every america's cup requires teams to design a new boat from scratch. in this case, the previous winners, 0racle new zealand, have chosen, guess where, new zealand as the location. they have switched from two—hulled catamaran to a single hulled boat and made a host of other rule changes. one of the big changes in this cup with regards to the rules is we're not allowed to do any physical testing. so we can't test in the wind tunnel or the tow tank.
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all the testing has been done in the simulated world, in computationalfluid dynamics on machines. max starr is part of the team who have tested many, many virtual boat designs, repeatedly building and rebuilding them in software to try and improve the performance in the water and in the air. so ineos team uk have a big mathematical problem to solve which is simulating all the air conditions and the hydrodynamic conditions on the yacht as it sails through the water underan insane number of different scenarios. to simulate what happens when water strikes the hull of a yacht, or when air hits the sail of a yacht, we pixelate those surfaces. we put little square pixels all over that yacht. at each one of those pixels we do a little bit of math, we understand what the temperature pressure and forces are that are acting then we can work out what's going to happen next and then how that cascades down the line to the next pixel and the next pixel and the next pixel. and suddenly we have got
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an idea of what a real, living boat will look like when it is in the water in race conditions. and the more detailed your simulation is, the more pixels you can break your boat into, the more accurate your model becomes. but every single pixel is simulated by a different computer processor, which means you need a massive amount of computing. basically, you need to harness the power not of the wind but of the cloud. now the crew do get to test how the virtual designs handle. this simulator knows exactly how the current design will behave when under the control of a master sailor. so let's see how it goes with me. now i am sailing! wow, one of the foils has gone into the water... and then, once we're round there, if you go hard right and down... a little bit slow out of the tack in the front of the foils. what is fascinating with the sport
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is that it's not like formula 1. here, every boat can be really, really different, it is a massive unknown and there is no tried and tested formula for success. how quickly do you think you will be able to tell whether you've got it right or whether someone else has got the better boat? we'll know within the first five minutes. we have got a race in december, a christmas race, which is kind of a warm—up to the series itself, and pretty quickly we will know whether we got it right or wrong. now, as entertainment venues have been struggling to reopen safely, one company hopes to bring an experience to your kitchen table via a smartphone. this is an audio only
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experience, and the idea is that you close your eyes and listen to the strange things that start happening around you. and they really do sound like they are happening in 3d space because they have been recorded using binaural sound. this is something we have heard before in the programme, and it is incredible. so with no idea what to expect spencer and i put it to the test. and if you want a taster of the experience from home, you're going to need some headphones too. radio feedback is everybody here ? yes. now get yourself a glass and fill it with water. we are all in our different rooms. many couples in this same configuration, sitting at a table across from each other. now close your eyes. close your eyes and keep them closed.
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if you open your eyes before the session is complete, you might experience a tormenting mismatch or a renting of the thin membrane that separates this world from the other competing worlds next door. i so want to open my eyes! with your eyes closed, try to form an image in your mind of the person sitting opposite you. don't look. don't check if they have closed their eyes. ok, this performance is aimed at couples but ignoring that minor issue, it's all about placing yourself in the story. double is the latest show from darkfield radio. its recent sound—only productions took place in pitch black shipping containers. now, though, it is possible via an app and a pair of headphones. so when we were working with creating these experiences at home, we still wanted it to feel like a live experience. so one of the important elements of that is that it is a timed show — something that
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happens at a certain time — so there is some feeling of community about it, even though people are sat in their different homes. the main reasons that i think that there is a lot more interest in binaural sound now because of vr and of this increasing interest in immersive experiences that placing at the centre of a narrative. i'm kind of on edge because i wonder whether something... something that will make us jump. chuckles male voice: two people who have known each other for however many years sit on either the side of a table. one of them has been replaced by a demon whose intentions are unclear and unlikely to be benign, and the other is planning a murder. planning a murder? is that you? i don't know! one of us has turned into a demon and the other is planning the murder. we both sound a bit dodgy. plate smashes what was that? i have no idea.
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much like the binaural sound recordings we've seen on the show before, it's recorded using a binaural sound head, shaped like a human. in both ears are microphones. you treat this head as if it were the audience members who is going to be then listening to the performance, so every — everything that the head hears is — will be from the perspective of the future audience member listening with headphones. and one of the things that binaural recordings do better than any real—time audio spacialisation is proximity, so we are also developing some other tech elements to include live microphones with the audio of the microphone spacialised, speech recognition and a few other things that will allow us to increase this interactivity. male continues speakingzw didn't take long for the right moment to come. clock ticks softly because opposite me, the demon has its eyes closed. and so, i stabbed it.
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cutlery clangs on a plate and now that the demonic copy is disposed of... oh god! lara laughs ..our real partner can come back. # i love you with my heart this is pretty freaky! # i love you with my mind it's whispering in my ear! no! i don't like it! # i can't love you... robotic woman's voice: thank you. you can remove your headphones. thank you. # ..anymore than i do. door closes oh! and open our eyes. goodness, that but quite bizarre! oh, that was a bit of fun! conceptually, i thought it was brilliant, but i wasn't sure about the storyline because i didn't actually want to murder you. what's interesting though is because they asked the two people to face each other, they really can make things sound like they come from a specific place in the room because they can send one person a sound in their right ear and they send the other person a different feed where
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the sound is in their left ear, so you can both agree that the sound happened over there. really interesting concept, i have to say. that's it for the short cut of click this week. the full—length version is available and iplayer. as ever, you can keep up with the team throughout the week on social media. find us on youtube, instagram, facebook and twitter at @bbcclick. thanks for watching and we will see you soon. bye— bye. hello there. we've seen over a month's worth of rain across many parts of the country over the last few days thanks to this persistent area of low pressure, which has pretty much parked itself over the country, and it's going to continue to bring further rain in the form of showers over
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the next few days, so flood warnings do remain in force across many parts of the country. as we head through tonight, those showers, some of them will be quite heavy across central and northern areas. we could see more persistent cloud and rain across the far west. here temperatures holding into double figures, otherwise we'll down to around eight to nines across other areas. now as we head on into the start of the new week, low pressure still nearby, so it's going to be showery. some of the showers could be quite heavy in places. there will be some sunshine around too, we could even see an area of more persistent rain develop across northern ireland, wales and the south—west. but with there being a bit more sunshine around and the winds a bit lighter too, then temperatures will respond, we could see 17 degrees in the south, but generally the mid teens are the norm.
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this is bbc world news. our top story. remarkable scenes outside the walter reed medical centre, as president trump takes a short ride to greet his supporters. and the convoy comes back in this direction about six feet away from me. the president is waving. mr trump is being treated for coronavirus, earlier, doctors said they were pleased with his progress. if he continues to look and feel as well as he does today, our hope is that we can plan for a discharge as early as tomorrow, to the white house where he can continue his treatment course. i'm martine croxall in london.

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