they of a precautionary measure. they mentioned that he dropped his oxidation a little bit. but even that i have questions. how low was it 90% or 60%? i can tell you it was likely 60%. otherwise nobody would let him go home. his blood work, we don't have the numbers but his saturation and clinical appearance all seem to suggest that pottery physicians felt he was stable enough to go home. what does he do once he is back? that is the question. he is not out of the woods. we note it is typically between days six and ten for any patient with covid—19 in high risk patients. course has been sta ble high risk patients. course has been stable and looking otherwise well, he needs to continue to be monitored. and it sounds like they have good medical care there at the white house where i presume he will remain on 24/7 monitoring. he was diagnosed, he got his positive test in the early

hours of friday morning. could you make an assessment from that, how long he is going to be infectious for? we always suggest the 14 day quarantine regardless, right? just because... he is not what he test negative in the next 14 days, he isjust not. even if he did,i days, he isjust not. even if he did, i would still recommend a patient stay quarantine for 14 days. 14 this is a safeguard we use. 14 days. 14 this is a safeguard we use. testing him now is silly. of course he is still to be positive. if you was a patient in my emergency department, we sent patients on day one, two, three, four, all the time if their oxygen saturations are good, if their numbers look good, and admittedly we don't retain blood tests on patients unless they're coming to the hospital. for him, everyone went above and beyond because he is the president of the united states, but i would argue that if you was not trump, would he have been admitted? probably not.

depending on the oxygen saturation for some anything less than between 90, 91, we tend to observe his patients, but be —— he may have been able to get __ go —— go home on day one stop at my memory says 93 on friday. you are right, there is an national security implication, and it was out of caution. that is what the white house was saying on friday, especially since he can get medical treatment at the white house. he is not going back to my house, where i don't take there is an add bill. clearly it is a lecture he has. so i for sure confident dr conley and his whole medical team are going to be keeping a very close eye on him. we cannot anticipate who is going to have the storm, it is going to have the storm, it is typically day six through ten, so the member... made her of this week, they are going to keep an ion in. if he gets sicker, they're going to slap

some auction on him. if he was diagnosed friday morning, and that makes a day for now, you would still want to watch how he does over the next few days? yes. again, 93%, we are sending patients home, if i had a patients home, if i had a patient committed 93%, that is not a strict indication for hospital admission. again, i think they gave it to him to make them feel a bit better, but it sounds like they fully he was the walking well, right? no one wishes him to be critically ill. most patients tend to be in that working well category. if you're feeling short of breath can we give you oxygen, but to fair to the sicker patients are coming really ill, these are people walking into the hospital with an oxygen saturation of 60, 70%. that is a very different patient profile of what mr trump has. thankfully he is an otherwise moderate case, i would say, but that is not the case for the critically ill

patients we need to reserve our icu for. and dr morrison, can i just ask you what happens going forward and the testing that he i'iow forward and the testing that he now had needs to have? if you had a patient who was going home and they needed to know when they could start resuming activities with other people or travelling around the country, would you want them to do one negative test before they were cleared to go, or three? what would your requirement be for them to have what number of negative test before they could resume their activities?|j think resume their activities?” think to be fairly should wait until day ten to start testing. he needs to be on strict quarantine, in my opinion, ten days, or 14. at that point, you start testing. many of us emergency physicians have gotten a virus or self. we are not allowed to go back to other people or expose other people until a full 14 days has been

fulfilled and then we typically do at least one, and sometimes two, negative test to putting oi'i two, negative test to putting on the institution you work for. given his circumstance of obvious leaping around —— being around a lot of staff members and being on the trail, campaigning, i would say, and being on the trail, campaigning, iwould say, if and being on the trail, campaigning, i would say, if i we re campaigning, i would say, if i were his position, he warns at least a two week full quarantine and then being tested negatively once or twice before he were go back out on the campaign trail. and what do you make of what you're seeing in the white house and the fact that, even since the president left, we had three white house staffers testing positive? what would your recognition down the recommendation detroit house staffers now? this is a hotspot, needs to stay home and be home and do virtual practices as much as they can, in terms of meetings, phone calls, etc. in terms of staff members, this is a hard one.

much like grocery chain workers, the essential workers are unfortunately and risk, so the question is how to mitigate that. using proper social distancing, everyone should be wearing a mask, i think the hospital staff member should be given n95s. if i was a worker there, i would want a n95, given their70 there, i would want a n95, given their 70 people there, i would want a n95, given their70 people in there, i would want a n95, given their 70 people in the white house itself that have been infected. until the storm is over in the white house is cleared out. dr morrison, thank you. no, look, we want to get the opinion of somebody who is actually treated from an emergency room perspective covid—19 patient. thank you, dr morrison. ron christie is still with us. listening to dr morrison, i hope you could hear and what she was sick about the white house being a hot spot and what needs to happen. how feasible is it to contain that

environment, to stop people coming and going, to try and... we had one, the time, he was so fast, we had two more cases conference today, three more cases confirmed today? there could be more cases in the white house at the moment that are still walking around the west wing, positive without knowing it? they very well could be, katty. and let me say this very quickly and clearly. the compex of the white house, it is very difficult to gain access to the white house, so in that regard, my belief, he should only allow essential personnel into the white house complex. we did this after 9/11. it should be done right i'iow. 9/11. it should be done right now. when the nation has been attacked, as we were in 2001, and we are dealing with a pandemic as we are now, you should not have everything a person who has a white house ha rd person who has a white house hard pass, in other words a pass to gain entry into the building, to be allowed to do so.

building, to be allowed to do so. if you are not essential, if you can work remotely, if you are essential, you must be tested daily, and you must be tested daily, and you must be tested and passed that test, to gain entry to the building. i would also say, to what the doctor said, and she is absolutely right. in the last week, being tested and having two negative test. if you contract the disease, he should not be tested once and have one negative test, you should have multiple tests, particular if you're good to be in proximity to the president of the united states. -- going to be in proximate to. is wrong with us still? ron, is it... how many people candy white house run on at the moment? if we were thinking, really, and taking the doctor's medical advice there of really scaling back there of really scaling back the number of people who are in the number of people who are in the white house because the current service can get through —— the coronavirus can get through. i cannot get through that gate easily, but he

coronavirus can fly in there, clearly. how many more people should they be saying, you need to work from home? how much can they scale back the staff and should they be scaling back the staff there? i think we have lost ron bonjean again. ron christie, can they get... we have been watching the pictures of who was there in the white house. we have seen kayleigh mcenany. she was still there, talking to the reporters, i have to say, without a mask on the last few days. have you seen the last few days. have you seen other people in the white house that you think, you should call your position, you can still be at home? should they be cutting back staff a lot more the moment? they should be cutting back immensely. the president's most core staff come about 20, 25 people, need to be there. the national security adviser, the white house legal counsel, white house legal counsel, white house legal counsel,

white house communications director. all those essential personnel should be in the west wing, should be the white house. everybody else should be at home. they should be working remotely, we have the capability, the technology, the senior staff can communicate with their staff, they can still formulate memos for the president cosmic consideration, they can still talk to each other, they can still talk strategy and looked down the road as to how best to position the country, but we should be ona the country, but we should be on a skeleton scale basis. we don't need hundreds of people in the white house. i would say you could get by with 50 to 100 at the most. ron, what about capitol hill? do you think they should be scaling back on the hill too? i do. my friends are very nervous. there are a people in many offices to that member of congress does not wa nt member of congress does not want them to wear a mask. you can do it. i worked on the hill from us nine years. you can do a lot of this with the technology we have, similar to the white house, on capitol

hill. you can brief your member of congress or senator, do it at home, do it at home, stay safe at home. do you think that seedy president there, even seen seedy president there, even seen president on friday, wearing a mask committing the president wearing, leaving walter reed, a mask? do you think i may change the minds of those members of congress who yourfriend might those members of congress who your friend might work for? i have spoken to people who worked in the white house, former white house officials, say it really was frowned on from the top to be wearing a mask if someone he was in a meeting, they were asked to ta ke meeting, they were asked to take it off? and that came from the president on down. he has done it publicly, right? he did it in the last debate, mocking joe biden for bring a mask, and i'm just wondering, this image we are looking at now, there is the president, in a surgical mask, leaving walter reed? does that make a difference? do you know it would have made a difference if he had done this five month ago. ijust, i am

going to be totally transparent and honest here, that the president should have on day one been wearing a mask. his staff on day one should have been wearing a mask. i'm glad he is wearing one now, but is the equity change the mind or opinions of those who have seen for the last several months? not wearing one? i don't think so. not wearing one? i don't think so. i think it is irresponsible for the president, i think it's irresponsible for members of congress regardless of the party affiliation not to practice social distancing and not to wear a mask. we have to follow the science and we have to follow the protocols. that's what should've been done, nestle what should've been done, n estle m ust what should've been done, nestle must do. there is one more thing we have to talk about and that is last saturday's celebratory announcement ceremony for amy coney barrett, which is where this might have started. there been huge white house events, this ceremony for the republican national convention, when the president gave his

speech, but it looks — and i don't know if this is bad luck or chance — that that saturday afternoon event in the rose garden of the white house seems to have been a super spreader event, so i'm assuming no more events like that at the white house, right? absolutely not, not unless you're messed up and practising social distancing. look at the number of people that we have seen who have since tested positive for coronavirus who are at that event. it is a celebratory event. it is a celebratory event. it is a celebratory event. i dig it is great, excited she was nominated, but no masks, no social distancing, with this virus as deadly as it is an —— as it is and as transparent as it is to be in the white house and move to the rose garden itself, unfortunately, i think this is a foregone conclusion of what could have happened and what we have seen happen, which is many people who have gotten infected as a result. yet. the is it ordinary. that one of them seems to have had so many

people who have got coronavirus —— really is extraordinary that one event. we have had three senators who were one event. we have had three senators who were at that event, all republican senators, who have testing positive with coronavirus as well. i think we cannot speak to our senior north america reporter anthony zurcher. thank again for staying with us, forjoining us again, and would look at all the people that have contracted the people that have contracted the coronavirus from that event last saturday, from the nomination of the new supreme court justice, people might nomination of the new supreme courtjustice, people might be thinking, why is it some and republicans getting sick? it is because there were lots of republicans at that event and they are the ones who brought it back? there were not many democrats at an event to silver a republic injustice. i don't think there or any democrats. if you look at that as a super spreader event, is not surprising with the republicans get it. you remember, there we re get it. you remember, there were debate prep sessions at the white house on sunday,

monday and tuesday, and multiple people who are in those small debate sessions, they all were tested positive, they all were tested positive, the campaign chair, hope hicks, kayleigh mcenany, don from his self. chris christie for an think rudy giuliani now may be one of the only people in that room who has not tested positive yet. that was the shot we can see earlier. —— we cannot see earlier. —— we cannot see earlier. he walked across the line unaided and waving happily as his doctor says he looks a lot more tanned and healthy looking than he did on friday when he did walk out to michael to come he didn't stop and pose. he was pretty subdued looking and very pale actually for him on friday. he looks a lot more like his normal self. clenching his fist and clearly

vibrant and looking energetic. that is him arriving. he goes up that is him arriving. he goes up the steps and starts talking to people. this is not live. this is about ten, 15 minutes ago. can we talk a little bit about the confirmation process of amy coney barrett? does the fa ct of amy coney barrett? does the fact that you've had now to members of the judiciary committee who are republicans in another republican senator test positive for covid—19, does that impact at all her confirmation hearings? if you listen to republicans... and the president take this mascot. it is remarkable watching donald trump go to the top of the steps. —— takes off his mask. looks like they are filming a campaign video. he stands there it is a long salute. what kind of a message i think is that soon for donald trump to be, right before going into the white house, surrounded by marines and other

people for him to take his mask off as could the coronavirus. if we thought he was going to come convert to mass, it is a little like it. part of what donald trump, his strategy, or one of the things he enjoys doing that think is triggering people on the left. poking the media bear, poking the liberals who are his critics, and watching social media come as soon as he did that and the video that started circulating around, social media exploded with outrage. justifiable outrage because at the message it sends, but outrage nonetheless that donald trump would take off his maskjust a few days after being testing positive for coronavirus when he is going to go back into a building where people, that is their workplace. truly remarkable. i am a television person. i understand makeup. that is a very different: the president and the one was on friday when he was looking ill and did not have makeup on. he

wa nts to and did not have makeup on. he wants to get the best impression of his health before he goes back in the white house. it looks to me, he is waiting, you see marine one waiting, you see marine one waiting in the background, the president was waiting for this moment, he must really have wanted, he is choreographed it wa nts wanted, he is choreographed it wants this moment, he has not disappearing quickly into the white house. he is letting this linger at this moment. it reminds me of the moment outside of the church with the protests outside of the white house after he had the federal security forces clear lafayette square come he walks out and stands in front of the church holding the bible, there he gets to the top of the stairs, he stops, he salutes, he steps back, he stepped forward again end at the end of the quick salute to him he had taken off his mask, he is very clearly aware of what this looks like on television. he has a

television background with the apprentice and his reality television show. whether they will use this in a campaign film or in a white house promotionalfilm, elect film or in a white house promotional film, elect to film or in a white house promotionalfilm, elect to be what he was doing, posing for the cameras before going into the cameras before going into the white house. very conscious of what that looked like. anthony, thank you very much. i'm joined now by dave weigle, an election reporter for the washington post. dave, thank you forjoining me. i want to get it not come i don't know if you saw it, the president standing on the balcony and taking off his mask, i wonder what you made of that. you said it well. the commonality a lot of his actions this year since the start of the pandemic has been appealing to his political base which is not big enough to win an election, and alienating voters in the middle of the country are crucial to winning and self not to be too blase about the president's health, but he is flaunting something that i think a lot of americans will look at and be disgusted by some of the first polling we have scenes seen in over the

weekend, two to one margin they felt the white house was not trustworthy enough when talking about his health and that the president was acting irresponsibly. the president walking in and taking his mask off, i think it reveals republican campaigns concede this president that most voters don't. as somebody whose personal willpower and personal health is hurting —— turning the country around for a lot of voters. they see him as an executive is not modelling the behaviour and that has been a huge boom to joe behaviour and that has been a huge boom tojoe biden all year. when boris johnson with the hospital back in april in the hospital back in april in the uk, he got a substantial bump in the polls, caught a sympathy bump that he got in the opinion polls. they didn't last very long. he did get one. i wonder whether you think this president might get something at the same. i don't think so. it is surprising when you put it in the context of bolsonaro, who has several bouts. he

didn't get any bone. the differences, this is happening ina differences, this is happening in a period when the president was protecting the virus crisis would be over by now. that she was predicting the virus. it goes against that. the president has been a rather than seeking sympathy, mocking people, tweeting his campaign slogans and making fun of people who want die to die, which is not any democrat who is running for office this year. —— 21 him to die. they are not very good at taking advantages of opportunities like those. at the beginning, there was a small bump in support for the president. it vanished within a couple of weeks. he didn't see that with governors. weeks. he didn't see that with governors. when you see governors governors. when you see governors get ill, the governor of missouri did, they disappear for a few days and come out wearing a mask. they don't take it off. the president will have to disappearfor it off. the president will have to disappear for more than a few days. he was diagnosed last friday. he is home now, it is

monday, but all of the doctors we speak to suggest he does have to quarantine really until at least next monday, if not until wednesday or thursday. that takes him off the campaign trailfor that takes him off the campaign trail for two that takes him off the campaign trailfor two weeks. that takes him off the campaign trail for two weeks. once that takes him off the campaign trailfor two weeks. once he gets back on it, by my reckoning they'll be about two and half to three weeks left but the how much impact on the boat does him not being out doing rallies for a couple of weeks have? there's more than ever weeks have? there's more than ever would've been before because of the prominence of early voting. while he was in the hospital, hundreds of thousands of votes were cast in key states in north carolina and virginia, people could go up and virginia, people could go up and cast ballots right now. i don't think many people were switching there boat to him, he was looking ill and unable to... he has done a couple of videos. we haven't seen the level of energy to sustain a political rally. the way you put it is interesting. the president has not been following local guidelines. a lot of guidelines leave

allowa nce for lot of guidelines leave allowance for political activity. you will have a rally of 100 people can't just activity. you will have a rally of 100 people can'tjust have a family reunion of 100 people. he is been sliding they going to places and packing them thousands of people, smaller than his rallies of a year ago but bigger than when democrats are doing and making funny democrats for not having their rallies. i think the president so far has been motivated by an impulse to get out and talk to his supporters when as i said at the top of the story is not his supporters. he has his supporters. his problem is the people who might have did it vote for the tories and the election but not their leader the government was in right by them, that is not happening in this country after four years of the president behaviour. i'm not trying to be harsh but other presidents have cultivated more sympathy than he is. i am afraid we have to leave it there. thank you very much forjoining us on this evening. an excerpt every few days. let's get ryan christie

backin days. let's get ryan christie back in and anthony zurcher before we end. —— ryan christie. anthony, your thoughts as the president goes back into the white house for presumably a week of quarantine. i think this week will be pivotal. we will see how he recovers them or whether his health continues to improve and then he has already tweeted he wants to have the campaign trail very soon. there will be a lot of criticism of that if he does it but you can tell donald trump feeds off of his crowds and is based, he wants to feel like he is getting out there doing something, sol think this next week will be very telling. ron, who has been with the president is now, perhaps not flying around on marine one, but you know what i mean,... iwant to marine one, but you know what i mean,... i want to echo anthony. what a remarkable hour we have seen in american history. our president leaving

the hospital wearing a mask, and want to read to preserve his health, and get we see him come back, you see him go to the top of the steps of the truman balcony and remove the mask. what image, what impression will that have been the american voters who are questioning whether this president is taking this coronavirus, something which he has, seriously or this house series as he could be? ill be more of an issue more than ever now the campaign trail. interesting. very briefly, did you see a note of the finance there in the way he was taking his mask off on the balcony?” did. —— a note defiance. i can't believe you're doing this. once you go to that door, us secret service, butlers, so many staff in the white house, he still has the virus. he can still potentially affect other people. an act of defiance to the cameras but what are you doing for the people inside of the house that are there to protect you? always think about the people we are in this

together. that is the message of this pandemic. anthony anthony, thank you both very much forjoining me. that is it for this special coverage of the president returning back to the president returning back to the white house from having beenin the white house from having been in the hospitalfor the coronavirus. hello there. i thought i'd start with a reminder ofjust how grim a start to the month we've had. across a swathe of southern england and parts of eastern scotland too, over recent days, we've seen more rainfall than we'd expect to see in the whole of the month of october. and we're only in the first week, of course. winchcombe is in gloucester. 118 millimetres here over recent days compared with the october average of 81. now, we have got a bit more rain to come over the next couple of days, but i'm going to zoom out into the western landscape because this is a developing area of low—pressure and it could bring some really heavy rain across those areas

that have already seen a lot of rainfall this month, so more on that in just a moment. for the time being, we do have rain around right now, we've got some patches working across from northern ireland, pushing eastwards across wales and england, and another line of rain from an occlusion that's bringing some wet weather at the moment to southwest scotland and the far north of england. temperatures to start the day about eight to 11 degrees. now, we are going to seek some further patches of rain pushing eastwards across wales and england through the day. i suspect they could become quite lengthy patches of rain, quite persistent rain for a time, across north wales, merseyside and greater manchester. further showers for west scotland and northern ireland, becoming windier in the southwest of the afternoon, where we could get gusts of wind of 50—odd miles an hour. the best of the sunshine for eastern scotland, but for many of us, it will be quite cloudy with just a few sunny intervals coming and going. now, for wednesday, probably overall, a little bit more in the way of sunshine, but again we've got showers around. those showers particularly affecting northern and western scotland. given that wind direction, we might see a few sneaking down the irish sea into

north wales in northwest england as well. temperatures coming down a degree or so, highs for most between 13 and 15 degrees. now, on into thursday's forecast, these weather fronts that had been forecast to bring the majority of rain across england and wales are actually going to push a little bit further northwards now on the latest model runs, and that sees rain potentially coming as far north as the central belt of scotland, maybe even north scotland for a time. now, further southwards, we will see some rain at a time moving across england and wales, but it's this trailing front that could cause some issues, not just through thursday but actually thursday night and into friday, because that front could become aligned to give some lengthy outbreaks of rain across parts of england and wales. and some of those parts will have already seen a lot of rainfall so far, so we could see some further localised flooding towards the end of the week.

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our headlines: president trump has left the walter reed military hospital in washington, where he had been treated for coronavirus for three days. he walked unaided down the steps of the hospital to a motorcade that took him to the nearby presidential helicopter for the short flight home. he's now returned to a white house hard—hit by the virus. at least 12 people close to the president have now tested positive, as have several junior staff members. the president has vowed on twitter that he will soon be back on the election campaign trail. the british government says an investigation has begun into why nearly 16,000 coronavirus cases went unreported last week. ministers have blamed a technical glitch, which is now said to have been resolved.