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this is bbc news. the headlines at eight. a sharp rise in the number of people admitted to hospital with coronavirus. new restrictions for scotla nd coronavirus. new restrictions for scotland will be announced tomorrow. nicola sturgeon says there will not be another full lockdown. boris johnson tells the conservative party bought my first virtual conference that the country will have a bright future of the pandemic. even in the darkest moments, we can see the bright future ahead. back in the white house, donald trump says he's feeling great but is criticised for playing down the seriousness of the
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virus. he falsely claimed it was less d ea d ly virus. he falsely claimed it was less deadly in the —— then the flu. the church of england spent decades failing to protect children who'd been sexually abused. and round british scientist roger penrose is one of the winners of the nobel prize for physics for his research into black holes. good evening. welcome to bbc news. the number of people being admitted to hospital is the largest daily figure since june. it to hospital is the largest daily figure sincejune. it comes a council leaders have written to the
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health secretary saying the current restrictions are not only not working, but confusing. now they are to many more powers for police to stem the rising infection rates. casesin stem the rising infection rates. cases in the north of england have continued to rise despite local lockdown restrictions being imposed on millions of people. cases in the south of england are relatively low by comparison. in manchester, and the seven days till the 3rd of october, the equivalent of 506 he do cases where recorded per 100,000 people. the national average during those days was 55 cases per 100,000. in scotland, the government says infections are beginning to spread from younger age groups to other
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ones “— from younger age groups to other ones —— older ones. nicola sturgeon will announce new restrictions tomorrow, but they won't amount to another full lockdown. today, we've heard borisjohnson‘s post—covid vision. the prime minister promised to forward a new britain and improve on the world that went before. first tonight we will hear from dan johnson that went before. first tonight we will hearfrom danjohnson in manchester on increasing infections there. the mood is darkening here. there are growing concerns as case numbers rise and there's more confusion as the layers of the rules are built on. ian has lived here his whole life. masked up, not messed up one of the other. basically, nothing. today, council leaders and for the worst affected
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cities call for action. in a letter to matt hancock, they wrote that the restrictions were not working. they made it clear they don't support further economic lockdowns, but instead offered of plan including more localised decision making and more financial support. we are facing the worst of both worlds here. the infection rate is going up here. so we decided to come together and stress to government, we've got the expertise so keep please can they start working with us. several people got tested on our fuller. the university has seen more than a thousand cases. adam and his flatmates could have been isolating for ten days. we had a pretty poor
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six months. what do they expect? we we re six months. what do they expect? we were all going to get in the end. the council has been delivering letters to residents saying that the return of university students has had an expected impact on the our number here —— the r number. their voices here that say it's too easy to blame students when there are other things going on.” to blame students when there are other things going on. i feel like we have been duped. inevitably, it will hit communities like ours, and we do have a higher number of vulnerable people, both socially to prize and people from the ame communities —— socially deprived. see people leave here at ten o'clock and then go to house party. band has
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built his business here. for me, the government either needs to shut us completely or lettuce trade. —— let us completely or lettuce trade. —— let us trade. universities are moving most courses online to suppress the virus. dan johnson, bbc most courses online to suppress the virus. danjohnson, bbc news, manchester. as we've been hearing, many of the uk's coronavirus hotsports are in the north west and north east of england, so what could be behind the recent surge in infections? our medical editor fergus walsh has been looking at the numbers. today, we've heard borisjohnson‘s post—covid vision. there is a north—south divide with covid. cases in hospital admissions have been rising sharply in cities in the north of england. where much of the population faces extra restrictions, while the substantially restrictions, while the su bsta ntially lower restrictions, while the substantially lower in the south. if
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we look at three hotspots for covid in the north of england, manchester had 529 cases per 100,000 population, liverpool 487, and newcastle 435. now contrast that with three cities in the south. bristol had six cases, nor its 32 and london 60. what about those who are getting covid 7 and london 60. what about those who are getting covid? in the northwest of england, the highest rates are among people in their 20s. you can see how sharply it's risen in recent weeks. and more vulnerable age groups, people in their 60s, it's risen they are also, as it has among people in their 70s and among the 80 plus. by contrast, in the south of england, covid cases haven't yet started to rise much in order aid groups except in london —— age
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groups. all that is reflected in daily hospital admissions. on the 3rd of october, there were 130 covid patients admitted to hospital in the northwest. 117 in the northeast in yorkshire, but only ten and the southwest, 19 in the east of england and 38 in london. every day, one and and 38 in london. every day, one and a half million people use this covid symptoms app from kings college london. it shown there are consistently times as many cases in the north of england compared to the south —— five times as many. there are several possible expeditions for this. you've got the deprivation of the population and definitely twice the population and definitely twice the rates of infection in deprived areas. i think you've got people not working as much at home in the north compared to the south. daily covid deaths were ten times higher at the
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peak in april, but the concern is that unless coronavirus cases are brought under control in the north, hospital admissions and eventually deaths will just hospital admissions and eventually deaths willjust keep rising. fergus boss, bbc news —— fergus walsh. scotland's first minister, nicola sturgeon says new restrictions to try to stem the spead of coronavirus will be introduced tomorrow but will fall short of a full lockdown. she was speaking as 800 new cases of covid—19 were confirmed acoss the country, with the number of people in hospital with the virus rising by 44 overnight to 262. our scotland editor sarah smith has more from glasgow. tomorrow, we are going to get the details of restrictions that will be brought in later. bars and pubs across scotland or brace for bad news. it will not be a return to total lockdown. the schools are definitely not going to be close.
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apart from the half term october holiday. if that the government are hoping to use to try and create what become a circuit breaker. two weeks of regulations to try and stem the rides and infection rates. it could be that restaurants, bars and pubs will be told to close or severely restricted on how they can operate in order to try and clamp down on the rising infections. nicola sturgeon says this is the most difficult decision in the crisis so far, and she's trying to balance public health needs against the wider harms that we know stricter rules can produce. and we'll find out how this story and many others are covered in tomorrow's front pages at 10:40 and 11:30 this evening in the papers. our guests joining me tonight are madeline grant from the telegraph and broadcaster david davies. the prime minister has set out his vision for britain after the coronavirus pandemic.
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in the closing speech of the virtual conservative party conference, the prime minister said it wasn't enough to go back to normal. he said he wanted every household in the uk to be powered by electricity, generated by wind power and also pledged to reform the housing market. our political editor laura kuenssberg reports. fancy a prime minister's speech with a coffee break? borisjohnson for years the irreverent darling of the sweaty party conference circuit, this year online only a prime minister grappling with what it means to govern in a crisis. i don't know about you, but i have had more than enough of this disease and we will succeed just as this country has seen off every alien invader for the past thousand years. we human beings were simply not content ourselves with a repairjob, we see these moments as the time to learn and to improve
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on the world that went before. he compared the disease to a state of war, himself a leader at a moment in history. in the depths of the second world war when just about everything had gone wrong, the government sketched out a vision of the post—war, new jerusalem that they wanted to build. and that is what we are doing now. promises on education, skills, homes, wind power on offer but with almost zero detail. uk government has decided to become world leader in low—cost, power generation, as saudi arabia is to oil the uk is to wind. he confronted whispers about his own ability now. i've read a lot of nonsense recently about how my own bout of covid has somehow robbed me of my mojo, and of course this is self evident dribble. even in the darkest moments we can see the bright future ahead. and we can see how to build it and
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we are going to build it together. but did it impress tories around the country watching along? i would like some recognition that there are problems. we are having a bad time up here. i'm just hoping and hoping that we all come out of this well. i was very impressed, actually, it was very upbeat and i thought it was a nice change, very positive and optimistic. we enjoyed the speech, but i would say it was not a standout moment for me. he always spoke highly of the union. we saw a bit of the old boris, there a degree of frustration among some members that were just not doing what we would normally do as the conservative party in power. but the prime minister quite rightly is setting the tone on the agenda. as any other time this whole week would have been a victory parade for tory h0,
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a moment for borisjohnson to lap up the applause after the election. but it is anything but that and although he dangles better days ahead, there was very little mention of the real risks to jobs and health that the country faces right now. a study of applause from a small stage for a politician craving the bit platform. —— a stutter of applause. he cannot be remotely sure when the world will look when the elections come round next time. laura kuenssberg, bbc news, westminster. our political correspondentjess parker is in westminster. he may have visions of a new jerusalem, very much overshadowed by the dark cloud of coronavirus. yeah, andi the dark cloud of coronavirus. yeah, and i think borisjohnson was clearly trying to offer this long—term hope, this vision of the country in 2030 where he talked
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about people arriving in a zero carbonjet and about people arriving in a zero carbon jet and seeing a cleaner, greener country around them. but it doesn't mean that he doesn't still face some incredibly significant challenges in the immediate term, andi challenges in the immediate term, and i think he was trying to remind people of his optimistic, as some people of his optimistic, as some people see it, charismatic approach to things and convince people that the old borisjohnson is still the current borisjohnson the old borisjohnson is still the current boris johnson despite the old borisjohnson is still the current borisjohnson despite the very trying circumstances of the government. i think he was also trying to reassure the grassroots of the ideologically, the party hasn't drifted off to in a new direction with this level of state intervention really trying to go out of his way to praise the private sector, which will have gone down well with quite a lot of conservatives. one senior grassroots story i spoke to earlier today
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suggested that yes, he was pleased with the thrust of the speech, but the ministers were still going around spending money and a slightly drunken state. so he wasn't particularly reassured by the actions of ministers, even if the words of boris johnson actions of ministers, even if the words of borisjohnson did reassure them to some extent. is the return of the mojo to bowjoe as he likes to put it, has that help the government with complaints about the ten o'clock curfew and the rule of six? i can't tell if the speech is made much different in the house of commons and to be honest, a number of tory mps didn't even watch the speech because they were doing business as usual in the house of commons, because of course, this wasn't a normal party conference. it wasn't a normal party conference. it was a remote speech, he didn't have all the mps in a conference centre building up to the big speech. tory mps didn't even catch the speech,
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meanwhile, there's been this debate in parliament this evening to get retrospective approval for the rule of six in england, and a number of conservatives asking the minister for the evidence for the rule of six, whether it's working, whether scotland's approach of the rule of six which is slightly different is better, and it speaks to a wider frustration that still exist in the conservative party amongst conservative party amongst conservative backbenchers that they feel rules are being imposed without proper debates. serious restrictions on people's lives, they want to see greater scrutiny going forward, despite a government concession last week. the health minister was in the commons this evening, making the argument that the rule of six is a simpler message that people can grasp ina simpler message that people can grasp in a way of combating the virus, but i think borisjohnson‘s speech has had little impact in terms of the anger of tory benches on these issues. thank you very much. the world health organization
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is warning that covid is taking an emotional toll across europe with rising levels of apathy among some populations. it's conducted a survey and concluded that many people are feeling less motivated about following guidance to protect themselves from the virus after living with disruption and uncertainty for so many months. robb butler is from the regional director's office of the world health organization in europe. covid fatigue, how do you measure fatigue? well, fatigue is measured ina number of fatigue? well, fatigue is measured in a number of different ways. we are looking really at a risk... of the population with the degree to which individuals are seeking information. fatigue is something that's absolutely human, but we have a prolonged emergency... in terms of protecting ourselves, we need to
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understand fatigue better and understand fatigue better and understand how it plays out in our everyday lives. we've just been through 6 million cases surpassing that in the last week, 6 million cases will was passed last week. 500,000 casesjust in cases will was passed last week. 500,000 cases just in the last seven days, so we're very concerned that fatigue is affecting or influencing this and contributing. basically, we protect ourselves when we feel threat, and as we adapt to this threat, and as we adapt to this threat through the crisis, through our response to the pandemic, we're releasing some of that concern that we have. apathy is setting in. just a bit worrying. you say you want to reinvigorate and revive efforts to engage people. what does that mean?
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how do you reinvigorate and revive people? how practically do you do that? you can do it in a number of ways. first, you have to find out why people are suffering from this fatigue. they can't go out. the a nswer to fatigue. they can't go out. the answer to that, to make them happy, is to allow them out but that will spread the virus even worse. there has to be a balance. there is a false debate between life and livelihoods. we now know that we can keep society open and look at new ways to do that. we done that successfully with reopening schools and making sure the kids can go back to school. it's about engaging communities, understanding how they can live the lives they wish to and enjoy their lives, but at the same time, do it safely. there are some great examples. we have great exa m ples great examples. we have great examples from israel, turkey, ukraine. not in france, not in
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spain, where people are getting increasingly angry. for those people who are sceptical about the global response of coronavirus, 56 million people died in 2017. the greatest number, 70 million, died of cardiovascular diseases than cancer, nine and a half million, road traffic accidents, 1 million. what do you say to people about that you are do you say to people about that you a re really do you say to people about that you are really perturbed by the restrictions being put on their lives and livelihoods and you are just saying the figures don't justify the response? just saying the figures don't justify the response ?|j just saying the figures don't justify the response? i think we have to look at this through a broad lens. we have to protect our elderly in society, we have to practice responsible behaviours. it's within our means to do this, so why wouldn't we? my question is, why wouldn't we? my question is, why would we accept this additional burden on society when we can do something about it? physical distancing, handwashing, mask use,
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we know these practices work. before a vaccine is developed, we need to look at how we can innovate to practice safer behaviours, and that's what our studies on fatigue have found. by looking at certain segments of the population, we can tailor our communications and effo rts tailor our communications and efforts to particular subgroups who are not adhering to public health measures. it's them that need the help, and here we have to engage them. there is a great example in denmark where i sit tonight, where we've engage the youth to take part in the decision—making at a local level and design the interventions themselves. that gives them a much more ownership, likelihood to practice as safe behaviour while still enjoying themselves and enjoying their everyday lives. that research is essential right now. i'm
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sorry, we have to leave there. thank you for joining us. the police have decided not to prosecute tammy abraham, jadon sancho and ben chilwell for attending a surprise birthday party for abraham. all three have apologised but are still to hear whether they will be dropped from the england squad, who have all been reminded by manager gareth southgate about the standards they should set. hejust kind of reminded us he just kind of reminded us what it means and the expectations of playing for england, you have to be extra careful and follow the rules. dave apologised and that's first and foremost what he needed to do, what will emerge stand what it means to play for the country —— what we all understand. it's a tough situation, but he apologised, so i think we can
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move on. nottingham forest have appointed chris hughton as their new manager after sabri lamouchi was sacked this evening. it's hughton's first job since leaving brighton last year. forest have had a dismal start to the season, having lost all four of their opening league games, after missing out on the play offs at the end of last season. french prosecutors have opened an investigation into alleged spot—fixing in a women's doubles match at the french open. it involves a match in the first round. meanwhile on the court, there's been another upset. the third seeded dominic thiem has been knocked out in the quarter—final. the austrian, who won his first grand slam at the us open last month, was beaten by argentina's diego schwartzman. it went all the way to five sets and was over five hours long. schwartzmann eventually winning the final set 6—2. he will play either rafa nadal orjannik sinner in the semis. their match is yet to start and may be delayed until tomorrow. really was a day of upsets.
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earlier, third seed elina svitolina, the highest ranked player left in the competition, was knocked out by qualifier nadia podoroksa. the world number 131 won in straight sets 6—2, 6—4 in their quarterfinal. the argentine becomes the first female qualifier ever to reach the last four of roland garros and the first in 21 years to reach such a point in any grand slam. a tribunal has heard that a former british cycling and team sky chief doctor used "a screwdriver or blunt instrument" to destroy a laptop which may have contained medical data, crucial to a doping investigation. richard freeman is accused of ordering testosterone to the sport's headquarters at the national velodrome "knowing or believing" it was intended to boost an athlete's performance. he's admitted 18 of 22 charges against him. britain's geraint thomas has been forced to pull out of the giro d'italia after suffering a fracture to his pelvis in a crash before the start of yesterday's third stage.
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the welshman said it was very frustrating, especially as he was feeling in better shape than when he won the tour de france two years ago. he tweeted "2020 you can just do one now." i would assume at the end of his 2020 season, which hasn't been a great season for everybody, next year he's got the tour de france and i know he's aiming at the olympics. he's got plenty of things, one of the things we've seen this year is that a lot of very good young riders, anyone in his position who doesn't get a good result when the year starts. it could be difficult for the next 12 or 34 months. and in today's fourth stage officials needed to examine the photo finish to decide who won. eventually, arnaud demare on the right of the picture was given the victory ahead
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of peter sagan and davide ballerini. portugal'sjoao almeida retains the overall lead. that's all the sport for now. back to you, tim. mark, thank you very much. president trump is back in the white house after three nights in hospital and says he is looking forward to debating with his democratic rival joe biden next week. he has again tried to play down the seriousness of the virus. today, he falsely claimed that flu was more lethal in most places than covid. our north america editor, jon sopel, reports. dramatic music plays. when donald trump left the white house last friday, he appeared dejected, fearful. but wow, his return last night couldn't have been more different. the former reality tv star knows how to make an entrance, and so had the white house turn into a made—for—television spectacular, all deliberately timed so it could be taken live by the network news bulletins who were on air at the time. and, after striding off of marine one, he walked up
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to the truman balcony. and the first thing he did there — he very deliberately removed his mask, even though still infectious. covid — what's there to be frightened of? don't let it dominate you. don't be afraid of it. you're going to beat it. we have the best medical equipment, we have the best medicines — all developed recently. and you're going to beat it. i didn't feel so good. and two days ago, i could've left two days ago, two days ago, i felt great, like better than i have in a long time. i said just recently, better than 20 years ago. this was donald trump presenting himself as a warrior president who'd seen off that hit an enemy. himself as a warrior president who'd seen off that hit an enemylj himself as a warrior president who'd seen off that hit an enemy. i stood out front, i lead. seen off that hit an enemy. i stood out front, ilead. no seen off that hit an enemy. i stood out front, i lead. no one who is a leader would not do what i did, and i know there's a risk, there's a danger, but that's ok. now i'm better and maybe i'm immune, danger, but that's ok. now i'm betterand maybe i'm immune, i danger, but that's ok. now i'm better and maybe i'm immune, i don't know. there were numerous takes as
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the president all the time without a mask interacted with staff. his rival was campaigning in florida. he said he was glad to see the president back, but added this. anybody who contracts the virus by essentially saying masks don't matter, social distancing doesn't matter, social distancing doesn't matter, i think is responsible for what happens to them. the president's doctors have warned that he's not of the woods and as he reached the top of the steps in the white house residence, he was clearly gasping for breath. it may be there's a gap between the image he wants to protect my project and more fragile reality. —— wants to project. his vitals are stable and donald trump is reporting no concerns about how he's feeling. in fa ct, concerns about how he's feeling. in fact, he has tweeted. two words, all capitals, feeling great. john's opel capitals, feeling great. john's opel, bbc news, the white house.
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justin lessler is an associate professor and expert in infectious disease epidemiology atjohn hopkins university. hejoins us now. let's he joins us now. let's look at some of the claims that president trump made that flu is more lethal than covid. i suppose he compared it to the 1918 spanish pandemic, when 675 americans lost their lives. that is true but not since then? no, not since then. any of the flu strange circulating recently look like covid is much as a hundred times more deadly than this. the fact that he thinks he's recovered, again is not really telling the truth because even his medical team he's —— say he's not out of the woods. i would be interesting to see what the longer—term responses to the
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treatments he's been given.

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