president trump has ended negotiations in congress — over a multi—trillion dollar stimulus package to help the us economy recover from the pandemic. a leading democrat says mr trump is putting himself first at the expense of the country. out on the campaign trailjoe biden offered a stark assessment of americas place in the world, telling voters that the nation is in a "dangerous place" and "the forces of darkness" are pulling the country down. in england, the number of people in hospital with covid—19 has risen by a quarter in just one day. in manchester, more than 500 people per 100,000 are thought to have the virus. the opposition in kyrgyzstan has seized power after violent protests against what it says was a rigged parliamentary election on sunday.

hello and welcome to our look ahead to what the the papers will be bringing us tomorrow. with me are the broadcaster david davies and madeline grant — deputy comment editor at the daily telegraph. tomorrow's front page starting with. .. the uk's soaring coronavirus infection rates is the lead for the times which says we are on the brink of lockdown — the paper also carries an image of sir roger penrose, who's been awarded the nobel prize for physics for his work proving the existence of black holes. the daily mail leads on the future of covid lockdowns and the news that thousands of scientists have signed a global declaration urging that

life should go back to normal for all except the elderly and vulnerable, who should be protected from the virus. the financial times carries news of a european shortage of chemicals and kit needed to process coronavirus tests in uk labs. the guardian reports on the scrapping of face—to—face teaching in some of the largest uk universities as they struggle to control the transmission of the virus among students. the ‘i' — says that the proportion of people dying in hospital because of the virus is much lower than at the start of the first wave of the virus in the uk, but reminds readers that deaths are continuing to rise in the north of england and in the metro — fake flu news is the headline — with more on president trump's false claim on social media that flu is more deadly than coronavirus.

welcome back to you both. let start with the times. the soaring rate. a lot of britain regionally is already semi—locked down. how much further with a go? that is the question. the areas they are talking about making subject to further restrictions, or i assume so from the cities that have been named in the article, already under harsh restrictions. some of them have been in the restriction for quite some time. it is interesting to see the government seems to be the solution is to lock down harder, and very few people seem down harder, and very few people seem to be consider the possibility that perhaps these measures just aren't very effective. i think in some ways like that is a proposition thatis some ways like that is a proposition that is quite hard to argue against because if case numbers go down, you can say that was definitively because of lockdown, if there is a surge you can argue that that is because we didn't lock down quite ha rd because we didn't lock down quite hard enough the first time. it is

actually coming to lack of alternative thinking on this other than lockdown is quite remarkable i think. david, what do you make of this? andy burnham, the mayor of manchester, said several times that he thought the regions were sacrificed to save london and when the original national lockdown was lifted, some of the regions weren't ready for the lockdown to be lifted but the government wanted to get london back up and running as well as possible just for the economy. tim, the real worrying news today, the development today it was the stark contrast now in the figures between what is happening in the north and the big cities in the north, and in the south. and you have a number of areas, including andy burnham, what is the point of local democracy? what is the point of having local mayors in the big urban areas unless you give them

powers to act in situations like this one where quite clearly they feel that some of the lockdown measures are not working? for example, the 10pm curfew is not apparently working very well in places like manchester and liverpool. there is a surprise you might argue. but certainly the mayors in those two cities to my knowledge think that there are other ways that should be and must be tried. as the government but off the rebellion on that one? they, there was able to be held tomorrow about measures including the curfew, retrospective vote on it. which i think they fear they would lose which is why they decided to postpone it from tomorrow to next week. and having been another of my jobs come up the telegraph, i have

to tune in more to what is happening in the chamber. i have noticed and decided that the sharpening of tone, not just from tory decided that the sharpening of tone, notjust from tory backbenchers but from across the house, particularly on the matter of the 10pm curfew, people are getting increasingly irate about it and the fact they are not being listened to in precisely the way david was saying that with the way david was saying that with the local authorities and the local metro mayors and so on, constituency mps also fill the concerns they are raising about the unintended consequences the curfews are not being listened to it and i think this is something that the government will have to confront head—on pretty sharp because it is not going away anytime soon. onto the ft, to add to that, in all of these soaring rates of regions become nhs labs hit by shortage of vital kit and chemical. for a government on the ropes, this is another huge blow. no doubt about that. in hs labs hit by shortages of

chemicals, and kids, so perhaps most worryingly of all my swab kids, the story talks about, the problem is in european pharmaceutical companies including russia, which is a world known company, this of course comes oi'i known company, this of course comes on top of all of the technical glitches. —— including ross. 0ver the test and trace issues early this week. and the really worrying part of this ft story is them saying that some of the scientists, medical people, are saying they don't see any end in sight to the problems. that is concerning. let's look at the eye. —— the i. better news here. more cases are rising as we know, but medics are saving more people are better prepared, and better equipped this seems into the story in the ft, second time around. yes.

i know there is sometimes a tendency to see bad news and everything, so this story there is the bad news the fa ct this story there is the bad news the fact the hospitalization rates are going up, which is concerning, but i think we sometimes have to revel in the good news in one of the reasons i feel that a bit more optimistic about the second wave in our chances heading into is the situation where we we re heading into is the situation where we were at and spring is our scientists are and medics have responded to the challenge brilliantly and we know a lot more about the virus and before. we have more effective antiviral treatments and we know from medics with experience now i know in simple things like if he simply turned somebody onto their front it can help with breathing difficulties. all of these things have meant the proportion of people dying in hospitals is much lower than it was backin hospitals is much lower than it was back in the spring so i think obviously we have to be careful but ido obviously we have to be careful but i do think with these kinds of developments, the case for embarking and of identical formula with the one we tried in the spring, the national lockdown which is what i think we are heading towards, i

think we are heading towards, i think the case for it falls apart we look at how far we have come and how much more we know about the virus since then. inadvertently, do you think we are building up more of a herd immunity, which of course the government was keen to deny right at the beginning but with university stu d e nts the beginning but with university students catching it, not becoming seriously ill, that is creating some sort of herd immunity that we did not see before? you hope that is true. and everything in the story and everything matalin has said is of course true, that we are for goodness sakes, we should be coming better prepared now than we were obviously back in february and march. but even this story come on the front page, the last bullet point here, top medic ones the next three weeks are critical, with of course the figures still worryingly high, but with the numbers we had today become of hospital admissions

going up, as i said earlier, particularly in the north of england. the daily mail has led with this new come is in a report, 4000 doctors, medical expert citing a global declaration stating grave concerns about the response to the coronavirus. we have seen this all around the world, different parts of society saying we have to do things differently, and it just society saying we have to do things differently, and itjust shows how scientists are so divided on this. exactly. i never like the phrase we must follow the signs because that is the singular, notjust one science, there has always been competing with systems and schools of thoughts and asked his declaration shows, it is called the great barrington declaration, it is been signed by commit declaration is from through the worlds top epidemiologists including a professor at oxford university but sign over thousands of people and is very important to get the message out there that there are these competing with stones because in

choosing one set of experts over the other, i think that is a political decision and it is one for which the government is ultimately accountable andi government is ultimately accountable and i think it is wrong for them to be consistently using that appeal of following the science when they in fa ct following the science when they in fact are choosing between different scientific approaches. what do you stand on this, david come about people taking more spots ability for the help if you are in your 80s or 90s, you are in your 80s or 90s, your address, he sealed, 90s, you are in your 80s or 90s, youraddress, he sealed, but 90s, you are in your 80s or 90s, your address, he sealed, but the rest of society tries to return to normal? —— people taking more responsibility for the help. normal? —— people taking more responsibility for the helplj normal? —— people taking more responsibility for the help. i came around to the view that that is the logical next step, because frankly if you have another national lockdown, and you are trying to save lives to get people back into an economy that may have not gone over the cliff, but something not totally dissimilar to that, and for me, all that this illustrates is that when politicians were so happy to say we

are following the science, right at the start of this nightmare, firstly, you cannot say that science because there are so many different opinions. as this story on pages one or two of the daily mail perfectly illustrates. but also those politicians ultimately have to take big decisions because they have to think about the economy as much as public health. if that source of what donald trump is trying to do do you think in the metro fake flu news? yes, i think there is an element of it. of course there is a lwa ys element of it. of course there is always a great deal of opportunity whenever donald trump and twitter is involved, interestingly his tweets have been censored by twitter and facebook and twitter has added some disclaimer saying this is misleading information. and i think what he is

trying to do there is to create a sense of them he is certainly in this when he arrived at the white house today, he got from his helicopter and one of the steps and saluted the helicopter as it was leaving into the thumbs up to the press come all quite obvious what he was trying to do in an attempt to match joe joe biden. but was trying to do in an attempt to matchjoejoe biden. but to give that impression of everything is fine. bash out machojoe biden. and to distract from what many would say is the poor handling of the coronavirus and seen one of the height of the race around the world. he has scrapped in the last hour or so it is not to try to do i deal with the democrats on the coronavirus bill from a stimulus think $2.4 trillion until after the election. what is the strategy? perhaps, i would love to know what the strategy is. i have to say, i

will rather disappointed he didn't arrive outside the white house and cinderella's coach. because this is a performance. that is what has been going on either side of the weekend by mrtrump. it going on either side of the weekend by mr trump. it is extraordinary by any standards, yes he has got this very solid base that is apparently going to vote for him, hell and high water. is mr biden ahead? you would assume all of the bowls cannot be totally wrong at the moment. —— i of the voting polls. go back four yea rs. the voting polls. go back four years. absolutely. i was in america at that time four years ago. you are smelling it in the two weeks before polling day that the americans had come up with a one candidate who might lose to donald trump, you do wonder if that might happen again, but to me, i have worked in american

elections many many moons ago admittedly come and i'm passionately interested in what goes on over there because sometimes it tends to come over here in the end. and i just feel mr biden, come unless there is something quite extraordinary, and it might well be, that will come again, between now and 28 days' time, i think it is now joe biden's to lose. and 28 days' time, i think it is now joe biden's to lose. right. let's move joe biden's to lose. right. let's m ove o nto joe biden's to lose. right. let's move onto the guardian. let's look at what is happening back over here now. whilst we have the us elections, we have university stu d e nts elections, we have university students facing the prospects of never having any face—to—face teaching. absolute outrage. i feel so terribly for the students. they have been treated... disappointing, devastating but an outrage, why? you think they should have face—to—face

teachings? i think so but also think if you're going to offer this up send it university experience you cannot possibly charge them the full price, which is what they have done. if they had been honoured from the start and said this is a degree you can do from home, they wouldn't, stu d e nts can do from home, they wouldn't, students could have had the choice of doing that at home with their families instead they are being practically in many cases locked in the halls and dormitories in student housing, for a beta from socialising and going home to visit their families in some cases, and you have to ask what is the point if you have the university experience stripped of all the things that make it special you might as well be paying the same amount you would for an open university type course where everything is done online and remotely. i think the failure to provide even something approaching the number university experiences is one of many failures of young people in the pandemic. devastating. i have to at university. 0ne in the pandemic. devastating. i have to at university. one in herfirst year. and they are lockdown. does

this have a lot of legal challenges do you think? let me declare an interest here. i am a graduate and rather proud of it of cfo university which isjust had 600 confirmed coronavirus cases. that ship field university. there i mentioned that it was only early in september when the numbers were route rather and we we re the numbers were route rather and we were told to hang onto many, it is not so much the elderly who are at risk now, it is the younger generation who are in danger of getting this awful disease. and what are we doing around the end of september? we are sending all of these thousands of students, some from abroad as well, who have flown in at the cost of the universities, to this country especially, and we are throwing them all together as though the term is going to go ahead almost normally. and then surprise

surprise, we end up where we are now, particularly in lanchester. and in the big cities. so what should be done? what come i can tell you what should've been done. for me, i don't think the students come i think students should have that online courses until we knew we were over the works of this, that is the first point. and the second point is west to be done now for me, you should become of the time is come for the students to abort this term come at the very least and yes, after a period of time when they have been tested positive for the virus, to go home and do their course from home. 0nline. goodness. the think of what that would mean. i can see you. i'm not sure about that. we heard about the declaration from those three

epidemiologists signed by thousands of health professions. 0ne epidemiologists signed by thousands of health professions. one of the think that strikes me about the crude metrics and things like the art numberand crude metrics and things like the art number and cases for hundred thousand in the particular areas it can all be that we are shutting down the entirety of a city because of the entirety of a city because of the outbreak of the university. we don't know enough about where the numbers are coming from and from my perspective actually, letting young people get their immunity to the virus isn't such a bad thing at all, especially if there are major effo rts especially if there are major efforts made at universities to prevent older members of staff from interacting with the students and i'm sure campus type universities you can take many precautions, this is precisely the herd immunity we are hearing about earlier. i think actually did take young people and it's in the back home again i'm not sure that if the strategy i would use. david, i promise you the first time around a bit longer. the students are... i'm saving the story you want to talk about. using up all

your time. what were you doing in the past 0lympics when we nearly had a boycott? tell us. in 1980 i sat at a boycott? tell us. in 1980 i sat at a television centre as the stand—in presenter if the russians pulled the plug on the coverage to europe of the olympic games. i had to mug up on some 20 plus spots come be knowledgeable about everything that was on the screen through that time. they only pulled the plug i think three times and thus two and a half, three times and thus two and a half, three weeks. let me remind viewers, the store is dominic raab says that the store is dominic raab says that the uk could boycott china's winter olympics over human rights abuses. do you think this is a threat the government should use? well, i would be surprised personality, if it comes to this, and athletes who have

been training for the, this is the one to games, and the summer games, the want to games, so it is a huge thing to ask athletes who have been training and preparing for four years of their life, for that probably one moment in the life. especially because so many athletes have missed out because of the pandemic. david, i'm sorry, igiving you much more time. i want to get 15 seconds from madalyn to balance things out. is that 0k? seconds from madalyn to balance things out. is that ok?|j seconds from madalyn to balance things out. is that ok? i think there was a mistake for us that we should hear from david there was a mistake for us that we should hearfrom david on this. he actually knows about this. i am quite hard to by the news. i don't think it will come to see that one of the big words that people had about britain outside of the eu was that they wouldn't be able to come up that they wouldn't be able to come up with their own foreign policy that was moral and ethical without being multi national framework that was moral and ethical without being multi nationalframework and for me i imparted to see that we are leading the way on dealing with human rights abuses in dealing with

china. the ethical foreign human rights abuses in dealing with china. the ethicalforeign policy. sire would have more time but thank you both very much indeed for taking us to. —— thank you both. good evening. england manager gareth southgate has told his players they must behave after three of his squad breached social distancing rules. tammy abraham, jadon sancho and ben chilwell have apologised for being at a surprise birthday party for abraham. but it could mean they miss the friendly with wales on thursday. dominic says the players know it is expected of them. we had a meeting yesterday and hejust kind of reminded us what it means, the expectations

of playing for england. you have to be extra, extra careful and follow the rules, and they've apologized. and that's first and foremost what they needed to do, but we all obviously understand what it means to play for the country and you have to remember that at all times. you know it's a tough situation but, like i say, they've apologised so you have to move on. nottingham forest have appointed chris hughton as their new manager after sabri lamouchi was sacked this evening. it's hughton's first job since leaving brighton last year. forest have had a dismal start to the season, having lost all four of their opening league games, after missing out on the playoffs at the end of last season. the scottish league cup is underway. hearts started with a win. they beat inverness caledonian thistle 1—0 in the first of their group games thanks to a jamie walker penalty. the winning goal coming just after the hour mark.

here's the rest of the results. falkirk and dundee were awarded 3—0 wins after kilmarnock and forfar forfeited their games because of the need for players to self—isolate. a petition backed by the english football league to get the government to reconsider letting football fans back into stadiums has gathered more than 100,000 signatures. plans for more test events were abandoned last month as stricter social distancing measures were brought back. now that the petition on the official parliament website has passed the hundred thousand signature mark the government will have to make time to debate the issue in parliament. french prosecutors have opened an investigation into alleged spot—fixing in a women's doubles match at the french open. it involves a match in the first round. meanwhile, on the court, it was after 9.30 when rafa nadal and jannick sinner got their quarterfinal under way. follow that on the bbc sport website. they are playing so late in paris because of the match before them. the third seeded dominic thiem was knocked out in his quarterfinal.

the austrian, who won his first grand slam at the us open last month, was beaten by argentina's diego schwartzman. it went all the way to five sets and was over five hours long. schwartzmann eventually winning the final set 6—2. really was a day of upsets. earlier, third seed elina svitolina, the highest ranked player left in the competition, was knocked out by qualifier nadia podoroksa. the world number 131 won in straight sets 6—2, 6—4 in their quarterfinal. the argentine becomes the first female qualifier ever to reach the last four of roland garros, and the first in 21 years to reach such a point in any grand slam. she will play iga wiatek next as the 19—year—old pole beat martina trevisan in straight sets. british duo jamie murray and neal skupski missed out on a place in the semi—finals. the 13th seeds were beaten 6—4, 6—4 by defending champions germany's andreas mies and kevin krawietz.

britain's geraint thomas has been forced to pull out of the giro d'italia, after suffering a fracture to his pelvis in a crash before the start of yesterday's third stage. a sprint at the end of today's fourth stage required a photo finish to decide who won. eventually, arnaud demare — on the right of the picture — was given the victory ahead of peter sagan and davide ballerini. portugal'sjoao almeida retains the overall lead. and that's all the sport for now. hello there. many of us saw some rain at some point during the day on tuesday. there was some big puddles out and about on the roads. for example, in the highlands of scotland with the wet weather here, and it wasn'tjust in scotland, the rain was pretty extensive and at its heaviest across northwest england, where in rochdale, in the greater manchester area, we picked up 42 mm of rain. that was the wettest place in the country. it did bring one or two localised issues. still a few showers at the moment, then a clearer slice of weather,

but further out in the atlantic, the next lump of cloud is developing, and this will bring rain late in the day on wednesday across many areas. right now, we've got some rain across the northwest of scotland. that rain will be with us well until wednesday to be honest. southwards, a few showers coming down through the irish sea, one or two of those might be picked up in northwest england, particularly around cumbria and north lancashire for a time. otherwise, a slice of sunny weather for northern ireland, wales, and western england. those sunny skies pushing eastwards as we go through the day. some reasonable weather and much more in the way of sunshine compared with tuesday. later in the day, we will see rain returning to northern ireland, wales and south west england, and along with the rain, it will turn increasingly windy from the southwest late in the day, gusts of about 40, 45 miles an hour or so around the coast and hills. that rain extends northwards, probably reaching southernmost areas of scotland for a time. certainly we're looking at a wet

night wednesday night, and then the rain slowly clears away from eastern areas of england. a mixture of sunshine and showers follow from the north and west. it will begin to turn cooler across northwestern areas. temperature about 9 degrees in stornoway, 11 in glasgow. but perhaps around 17 degrees or so for a time in london. that rain band should clear well to the south, but there is a small chance it could ripple its way back. either way, on friday, it looks like we will see a mixture of showers or some lengthier outbreaks of rain, so it is staying on the unsettled side, the air getting cooler for most of us, with temperatures dropping. highs 10 to 15 celsius. into the weekend, we will be greeted with a northerly blast coming down, and that will make you feel quite chilly if you're out and about. it will also bring showers down to some of our eastern coasts and into the north of scotland as well. not entirely dry. it will feel quite cool in those strong winds in the east.

this is bbc news. i'm tim willcox with the latest headlines for viewers in the uk and around the world. president trump walks away from negotiations over a multi—trillion—dollar covid relief deal to support the us economy. with coronavirus keeping mr trump off the campaign trail, his rivalfor the presidency — joe biden — tells voters that the country is in a dangerous place. a sharp rise of new cases of coronavirus in some of the biggest cities in the north of england, amid warnings the current covid restrictions are not working. music: jump by van halen and eddie van halen, one of rock music's greatest guitar players, dies of cancer.