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tv   The Papers  BBC News  October 10, 2020 11:30pm-11:46pm BST

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hello, and welcome to our look ahead to what the the papers will be bringing us injust a few hours. with me arejoe twyman, director of deltapoll uk and france21i's uk correspondent benedicte paviot. you correspondent benedicte paviot. are very welcome being you are very welcome. thank you for being with us. tomorrow's from pages... the observer says that northern voters have been betrayed by the prime minister, over the financial support being offered to locked down areas. the sunday express has more on the backlash — saying that northern mayors are planning legal action. boris johnson is compared to margaret thatcher in the sunday people, because of how areas in the north are being treated. the sunday mirror highlights infection rates in the constituencies of tory ministers, where local lockdowns haven't been introduced. the sunday telegraph says pubs will close in hotspots, but restaurants are set to remain open. meanwhile, the sunday times is reporting that local authorities will be given more control over the test—and trace system.
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and the mail on sunday has a story accusing the health secretary, matt hancock of making what's described as a crass joke about test and trace failings, in a commons bar. so let's begin... the sunday times, townhall‘s to take control of work on virus. a u—turn on testing looms before new lockdowns, benedicte, and many public health officials and local politicians in various parts of england have been asking for exactly this sort of extra authority. indeed. of course, this is the story as we await the exact restrictions and which city, liverpool, manchester, others are in a particular tier, one, two, manchester, others are in a particulartier, one, two, orthree. this is interesting because this is a real u—turn. now, the feeling and perception, certainly from the united front of the mayors that we heard from at lunchtime today,
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including andy burnham of greater manchester, was very much there is that sort of top down, these are the rules, you are going to obey them. and there is not enough consents, there is not enough consultation. so i think this is very much a u—turn by the government, indeed as suggested, stated even, by the sunday times. the test entry system, many more powers will actually be given to the local mayors. —— test entry system. what i think is particularly interesting is when you look at the test entry system which has been run nationally and is actually failing to contact a lot of people —— track and trace. but there have been trials for several weeks now we have been told and 60 council areas and public health officials say that actually, they really tap into the national database. they then pick up what they call, "difficult cases post quote where people cannot be traced. and
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according to some of the experiences, for example, andy's street from the mayor of the west midlands has had localised test and trace programmes piloted by councils in his region have not only been successful, but they have been successful, but they have been successful between 90% — 100% of cases identified. so i think that's a very powerful example and a very important example, because one of the mayor —— one of the complaints from the mayors we heard from today granted most of them were labour, but i think, certainly, they were trained to make the point that this is not a political point, it is one about the concern that these lockdowns that are very restrictive actually sometimes are very unfair because there is actually not a high rate of transmission within that particular area. joe, talk to us about the sunday telegraph, millions will be ordered not to leave local
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areas. this is also something that leaders in the north of england in particular have objected to, saying that things are too broad a brush and that they don't take account of the differences that they are very intimately acquainted with because they know their patch. yes, that's right. the difficulty that the country is in that borisjohnson has consistently talked about the fact that he doesn't want to see a second national lockdown, that he will do everything he can to avoid that. the consequence of such a decision is that without rising cases that we are seeing across the country, it's inevitable that local lockdowns will need to be utilised far more if we are to avoid the kind of massive increase in hospital admissions and deaths from covid that we saw back in march, april, may and june. deaths from covid that we saw back in march, april, may andjune. so, that means that certain areas that are seeing higher numbers of infections are at risk of this 3—tiered approach. the difficult is we don't know, and according to the
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reporting, nobody yet knows which of these areas in the north of england are going to be affected. what tier they will be put on. there is lots of discussion about perhaps a traffic light system where by you will either be green, amber or red, and red is the highest tier, having the most restricted rules placed upon it. for instance, there is discussion about restaurants closing at ten p:m., pubs closing completely, households not being allowed to mix either inside or outside and various other things, but schools are allowed, for instance, to stay open. but the particular problem is that in these large areas, there will inevitably be be variation. there is a lot of evidence to suggest, for example, in some northern cities, manchester, leeds, nottingham, these areas are seeing very high spikes of infections in university dominated areas. so, do youjust infections in university dominated areas. so, do you just locked on the whole of the university area? or do you expand that to the whole of the
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city? this is the kind of thing that local officials will have more regard on it, and that's why the papers have suggested that they will be placed in control. there is also talk of local volunteers going door to door to encourage lockdown and to get a community spirit going. it will be interesting to see how that goes. in terms of public opinion, there is the majority of support for there is the majority of support for the principle of lockdowns, but there is also a belief that the government is not doing the right thing. exactly how this plays out in the coming weeks and months will be very interesting, particularly in the run—up to christmas. and what we are seeing consistently along with trend is that people increasingly are concerned about the economic impact this has. so a lot of these rules are, showery say, tailored toward trying to help the economic situation in these areas, one —— while at the same time maintaining a control of a health situation. many argue that you can do both, but
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certainly concerns over the economic situation have grown considerably in the last few weeks and months, more so the last few weeks and months, more so than they were at the time of the first lockdown. we -- are we really doing christmas, i'm not sure. i don't know what's going to be possible, joe. whether we will be able to get to you. the mirror, sunday mirror, benedicte, tories covid outrage, one local lockdown rule for them, another for the covid outrage, one local lockdown rule for them, anotherfor the rest of us. and this is conservative ministers — where the tobit infection rates are higher than in some places where there is a lockdown being put in place —— covid. just briefly, if you would. yes, so, briefly, what you are referring to on the front page of the sunday mirror, in case anybody didn't recognise them is boris johnson, so and we have got the chance like marie she soon, we have got robert generally can and we have got robert generally can and we have got the education secretary, who
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possibly, unfortunately for him, has got a laughing picture. this is certainly no laughing matter, and certainly no laughing matter, and certainly the salaries that are all close to 100 k on the front page of the sunday mirror are reflecting some of the concern that they haven't got — they've avoided, the sunday mirror, locking down their areas, but, of course, with the mayor particularly in the north is wearing about today is notjust people who are going to only get two thirds of minimum wage, all the people on track, those who will lose their jobs, people on track, those who will lose theirjobs, and people on track, those who will lose their jobs, and what people on track, those who will lose theirjobs, and what we didn't mention in the first paper review, but let's mention in the second one, because many people are in that case, the self—employed. you know, what a 66% of zero? indeed. it's a lot more pressure going to be piled on the chancellor. —— in the next few weeks to answer those sorts of questions. let's look at the scottish sun on sunday, asked defiance. tobit scandal mp, joe, i
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will not quit. this is margaret ferrier, remind us what she did. —— covid. margaret ferrier has been involved in the most from it to my mind, extra neri situation. she felt she had symptoms, so got tested and despite proving positive then travelled on trains, met with people, really not the kind of behaviour you would expect from anyone from elected official, and yet, she has remitted —— made it repeatedly clear that she is determined to stay in her position as mp, and has reiterated that this weekend. it would strike me that her position becomes untenable after a certain point, but i would have thought that point had already passed. nicholas turgeon certainly wa nts passed. nicholas turgeon certainly wants her to go, but benedicte, margaret ferrier is saying that the killer bug made her act out of character, and has continued to defend her right to to carry on. again, just briefly, if you would. well, i mean, is that a defence in
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the eyes of the law? it's a bit like breaching international law in a specific limited way. i mean, these are simply not, you know, it's black or white, you are not half pregnant, are you? so she didn'tjust do it once, by the way, she had got the test, we learned belatedly, and the snp learned of this belatedly, and then she took the train again once she knew she had it. she potentially could've infected fellow mps, ministers, the opposition, staff, of course, in the parliamentary estate, anybody who came across on public transports, and i think she also come in her defence, said she was working hard, welcome a lot of other people are working hard, but they are not spreading the virus. let's look at the observer, joe. donald trump has addressed... i have still got a picture of the lovely japanese garden, the kyoto garden in the park, which is absolutely gorgeous, but we are not going to talk about that. we are going to talk about donald trump being in the white house, joe, addressing about 400
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supporters. he was quite a long way from them, though. yes, he was quite a long way from them, but he is also potentially still positive for covid. and even if he is not, he has onlyjust recovered, so perhaps you could argue that it represents a risk having him speak in both his own health and to those 400 people who turned up, speaking from the balcony, has a long glorious history, less so when it's of a political leader. i would say that he is behind in the polls and consistently so. he believes, presumably, that events such as this will have a positive impact on his position and improve his chances come next month. i think that's potentially infecting people who support you with a deadly virus is a new and untested method of winning an election, i think it's unlikely,
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but he has shown himself to be a maverick on many occasions. as you say, the polls are putting mr biden ahead, which takes us nicely onto the last paper, the sunday times. panicking number ten dumps trump and w005 panicking number ten dumps trump and woos biden. they are reading the rooms as well in downing street, benedicte. yelena cast mino donald trump watches fox a lot, but perhaps he doesn't want to listen to the next 15—20 seconds, and certainly doesn't want to read the front page of the sunday times. because ministers have indeed been told to forage links with the white house pronto, and that is because the concern is that the internal polling clearly shows that mr biden is likely to win, there is a 70% chance that he could win, and, of course, the government doesn't want to be caught on the hot. now, what's interesting at the end of the article is it mentions, even if
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those links were to work, whether that relationship to be improved, the perdition bassler is doing her best, we know that dominic raab went there and met nancy pelosi, etc, etc, it will be a bumpy ride for the uk anyway becausejoe biden know we haven't mentioned the word brexit, i think a of the first paper review, but here we go, has said very much that he can't allow, where the words, and uk — us trade deal to proceed if northern ireland is a casualty of brexit and about as for donald trump if he was, asjoe says, to make this come back in the polls, particularly with voters, then the us ambassador of london, woody johnson, said america will slap ta riffs johnson, said america will slap tariffs on scottish salmon, no less, if the uk does not accept us chlorinated chicken as part of a trade deal. i'm referring to donald trump using the white house once again asa trump using the white house once again as a political platform, i have to say that i am possibly very uncomfortable with outcome even if they said that wasn't an election
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events. it seemed like it, i think, from many points of view, and as we ask a question tonight, and tomorrow night, and until the election, it is very important that a commander—in—chief, if he wants to continue being commander—in—chief, tell his people if he has had a negative test and if he still has coping 19. he doesn't want to share his taxes, but i think they are entitled to know that. —— culpan19. joe biden is very open about it, i think anybody who is up for the biggestjob in this still land of the free needs to know and needs to be transparent. —— coping 19. or is ita be transparent. —— coping 19. or is it a state secrets? we are waiting for the results for the test that he had on friday. joe, talk to us about the polls now in the polls back in 2016, the last presidential election, because i was talking to a republican strategist a little while ago who was saying to look, you know, he was fined —— behind in the polls this time last time, and he still won. a lot is paying attention
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to the national post, because that's what we pay attention to in this country when it's our election, and in the same way that that doesn't always translate to victory in this country, doesn't translate to victory in the us. now, joe biden is doing better in the national polls than hillary clinton was at the same stage, but of course, there is still just under a month ago. so, stage, but of course, there is still just undera month ago. so, a stage, but of course, there is still just under a month ago. so, a lot could still happen, but, also, it won't be about the national polls, it's almost certain that the democrats will win the most votes nationally, as they have done in all but one of the presidential election since 1992, but one of the presidential election since1992, but it's not about that. this election will come down to probably the results in six states. those six key states will determine the results, and yes, joe biden is doing better in those states than donald trump at the moment, but there is a large margin of error and nothing can be taken for granted. i think he's definitely the favourite at the moment but he's definitely the most likely to win, but it cannot be guaranteed, and that places borisjohnson in a very
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difficult position because he obviously wants to embrace the person most likely

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