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this is bbc news. the headlines at 5.00. borisjohnson calls his cabinet ahead of announcing tougher restrictions, as ministers reject claims political leaders in the north have been left out of the decision—making. you say that there is anger in the north. there is. but the measures we are bringing in here are universal, these apply across the whole of the united kingdom and there is nothing that we would ever do that penalises one part of the country over another. i haven't felt anger like this towards the government since i was growing up here in the 19805. people feel that they haven't just been abandoned by the government, they feel that the government is actively working against us. margaret ferrier — the scottish mp who took public transport knowing she had coronavirus — says she acted out of character and refuses to stand down.
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rescuers search for survivors after a missile attack on azerbaijan's second biggest city as a brief truce in the nagorno—kara bakh conflict shows signs of unravelling. the buildings here are clearly residential, these were apartments where people were asleep in their beds when the attack happened. lewis hamilton equals michael schumacher‘s record of formula one wins with 91 victories, and is presented with one of the german's helmets. the prime minister is holding discussions with members of his cabinet by telephone to update them on the next steps in the fight against covid—19.
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tomorrow he will announce new measures, including a new tiered system of rules for england. liverpool is expected to be one of the areas placed under the tightest restrictions. ministers insist that the north of england is not being penalised as talks with leaders across the region continue about plans for further coronavirus restrictions. 0ur political correspondent jessica parker reports. last night in liverpool. leaders have been told the city is set for the highest level of restrictions. police were out enforcing the rules as they are. but tougher ones could come, including further potential curbs on hospitality, pub closures. it is a disaster for the economy, for that business, but also for people's well—being because getting out, having a meal, having a couple of drinks, is very important. as of monday we are getting an announcement but we don't know what we are being announced to, you know. it is kind of like, is everything going to be shut down?
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or are you just planning on closing certain things? like, nobody has any idea. just making things clear to the people and not patronising them and also not leaking things through the press, just tell them directly. large areas of the north already under extra restrictions wait for what's next. amidst the uncertainty there is anger as well, says labour, and worries that businesses are not going to get enough support. i haven't felt anger like this towards the government since i was growing up here in the 1980s. people feel that they haven't just been abandoned by the government, they now feel that the government is actively working against us. downing street has emphasised it is holding discussions with local leaders, talking to councils about giving them more control over test and trace, and ministers insist the north of england is not being penalised. you say that there is anger in the north. there is. but the measures that we are bringing in here are universal, these apply across the whole of the united kingdom and there is nothing that we would ever do that penalises one part of the country over another.
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the chancellor represents north yorkshire, i represent north nottinghamshire. neither of us would want to do anything that hurts the north or the midlands more than any part of the country, but it is right that we take a localised approach. the government has pledged to pay two thirds of people's wages where businesses are forced to close, but it's not just labour politicians who say that is not enough. i have called and made public demands that it has to at the very least leave packages alternate to the furlough march lockdown and anything less is not acceptable. ministers say support for affected businesses is part of an unprecedented package of measures and tomorrow we'll hear more on any changes to travel, new tiers of restrictions. the country, one top scientist says, is at a tipping point. 0ut enjoying themselves last night people know change is on the way. jessica parker, bbc news. earlier i spoke to professor stephen reicher, who advises both the uk and scottish
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goverments on covid—i9, with a focus on behaviour, he started by telling me what proportion of people were observing social distancing guidelines. if you look at the polling, it shows 80% of people, when you asked them, say they always or nearly always follow the guidance. in fact, people on the whole believe that we should act more firmly rather than less firmly. if anything, the government has opened up too quickly and has not imposed restrictions enough. that is what the polling tells us. i think it is pretty clear. so i think as long as there is that clarity, as long as there is that equity, as long as people are supported, people will go along with them. let me address the issue of fatigue. it is a very seductive idea, but it is a very dangerous idea. we heard it in march when people said people would not be able
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to stick with lockdown and we have to delay. that delay, the week of the 16th to the 23rd of march, probably cost tens of thousands of lives. what we found is that people showed remarkable resilience. if people do not go along with the guidelines, it is not necessarily because they are psychologically unable to do so, it is either because the information is poor, or because they do not have the practical ability to do so. again, during lockdown, the evidence showed poor people were three to six times more likely not to abide by lockdown than rich people. if you look at their motivation, it was identical. had nothing to do with psychological weakness, it had everything to do with the practical difficulty of staying at home and putting food on the table. again that is why it is so destructive to blame people when they get infected and to blame the public. much more we need a government which respects the public, which supports the public and which acts in partnership with the public.
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that same argument may be used for certain student populations, where it does seem... the students are having the most terrible time, especially if they are in first year, pressure, whatever, but there does seem to be evidence they are not following the guidelines or the rules. there is some evidence. in certain towns. working at the media you know this better than i. of course a rave or a big house party makes a better headline than people behaving themselves, or one or two people coming round more than actually should. the scottish police have interesting evidence. they were called to 440 house gatherings of which only 13, less than 2%, were large gatherings. the great majority were people slightly breaking the rules. when the police knocked on their door they said, "why
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are you having a go at us? we are not having parties." the danger is if you set up this notion that the problem is big house parties, it mwans other people can break the rules a little. the real people we have got is not bad people doing terrible things, there are a few people doing stupid things and having large parties, but the real problem is not a few people doing really bad things, it is a lot of people breaking the rules a little. we have all got to take our responsibility seriously, rather than thinking it is somebody else‘s fault and problem. all the stories about house parties really get in the way and they misrepresent the phenomenon and they make things worse by thinking it is somebody else‘s problem, it is everybody‘s problem. go back to clarity and face masks. goodness knows how the information has changed and twisted over the last few months. would it be better to have a clarity of message, where a mask would it be better to have a clarity of message — wear a mask inside and outside because everyone knows that is the best way
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of protecting themselves and other people, even if the science does not necessarily back that up? who knows what science is on outside now anyway? well, i don't think the science changes that much. i think we have known all along that this is a disease that lacks i think we have known all along that this is a disease that likes particular conditions. it likes indoors, it poor ventilation, it likes crowding. i think it is really important that while we have clear measures that suppress the pandemic we don't do too much so we can support people to maintain a social life. we can have encounters with people outside, as long as we maintain our distance, and i think doing more than is necessary undermines the credibility of the measures that are needed. certainly indoors and in crowded spaces we need to be very careful indeed. but, as i say, i think with a sensible approach we can get through this pandemic without doing too much harm to people either in terms of their mental health, or indeed the economy.
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let's take a look at the latest coronavirus figures in the uk. another 12,872 coronavirus cases were recorded in the last 2a hours. that's a fall from the 15,166 cases reported yesterday. 65 new deaths linked to coronavirus were also recorded. these are patients who died within 28 days of testing positive. the scottish mp who refused to resign despite travelling from london to glasgow by train after testing positive for coronavirus has given herfirst interview since the incident. margaret ferrier told the scottish sun on sunday, she had acted out of character and had made an error ofjudgement as connor gillis reports. margaret ferrier was elected as an snp mp in december and has been at the centre of a scandal for weeks now. ..commitment over the last seven months.
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this is her speaking in the house of commons. showing coronavirus symptoms, she had taken a test. after confirming positive, she decided to take the train back to scotland, claiming she doesn't have a flat in london and would have been forced to quarantine in a hotel. in an interview with the scottish sun, she said she panicked, it was a blip, the virus made her act out of character. she said it had been a highly stressful situation but she will continue to work. the mp also questions whether her hard work and dedication should be wiped away for an error of judgment. despite being suspended by the snp, there is still a sense of anger here in her constituency of rutherglen and hamilton west. also anger from the snp leader and scotland's first minister, nicola sturgeon, who described her actions as completely indefensible, reckless and dangerous. ms ferrier has today responded, saying she feels hurt by the criticism from people she considered friends and colleagues. she doesn't want to lose the money. everybody else would be sacked,
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fired or anything else and live on nothing. she should be the same and see what it's like for the people. ijust think she's a silly woman. she really is, because i've not seen my family. i can't see my family, and it angers me. she was irresponsible, and mps should be people who set an example to the rest of the public. she has done the exact opposite and she should go. nicola sturgeon insists she has done all she can. no party leader has the power to make an mp resign from parliament, but i couldn't be clearer — she should step down from parliament. police are investigating this incident. for now, margaret ferrier clings on in the face of overwhelming criticism. connor gillis, bbc news, rutherglen. the ceasefire between armenia and azerbaijan brokered yesterday by russia has failed to last even 2a hours.
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the main city in the disputed nagorno—karabakh region has been hit by shell fire overnight and there are reports of civilian deaths in azerbaijan's second city — ganja. a senior azerbaijani official has told the bbc that baku is trying to stick to the ceasefire, but they have the right of self defence. 0ur international correspondent 0rla guerin sent this report a short time ago. well, they are still searching here by hand, with dogs, and they have brought in some heavy machinery. you can see the extent of the destruction. it is over a really wide area. the buildings here are clearly residential. these were apartments where people were asleep in their beds when the attack happened at about 2am local time. we have seen mattresses and blankets strewn around in the rubble. a local explosives expert has said that the weapon used here was a long—range rocket. this was clearly a large—scale
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attack and we have seen no sign of any kind of military targets in this area. standing here now in the rubble, is the ceasefire dead? actually, it is hard to assess the situation. currently we are considering the situation. if armenia continues to attack azerbaijan civilians, then azerbaijan will be obliged to take necessary measures against legitimate military targets. but, as we stand here now, you were saying that they have fired at you and you are also saying that you reserve the right to retaliate. so which is it, are you sticking to the ceasefire, or are you going to retaliate for this attack? at this stage, we are trying to stick to the ceasefire regime. but, of course, if they continue to do so, attacking azerbaijani civilians, as every nation, we also have a right to self defence. and we also have a responsibility to ensure safety and security of azerbaijani civilians. now, there are accusations from across the front line that azerbaijan, too, has breached the truce. officials in nagorno—karabakh are claiming there has been
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shelling from this side towards rural districts. there is supposed to be a truce in place, mediated by russia, but when you look around here, it looks far more like all—out war than ceasefire. since the conflict between armenia and azerbaijan escalated last month, both sides have been lobbying for government and aid support around the world. armenia has a highly organised lobby in washington, and a louder global voice because of its large diaspora, particularly in france and the united states. it's estimated there are around 1.5 million armenians across the us alone. and as soon as the conflict broke out, the armenian community in los angeles began mobilizing to send food and medical equipment to the region. reality tv star kim kardashian—west who has armenian heritage, has pledged to donate a million dollars to armenia. hi, everyone. it's kim kardashian west. i have been speaking
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about about the current situation in armenia, and having conversations with so many others to bring further awareness to the crisis that we cannot allow to advance. my thoughts and prayers are with the brave men, women and children. i want everyone to remember that, despite the great distance that separates us, we are not limited by borders. we are one global armenian nation together. in a moment, michel hussein will be here with the tea—time national bulletin — but first here's sarah keith lucas with the weather. hello. there has been some pretty decent spells of autumnal sunshine out there for many of us through the course of the day. a lot of dry weather around as well, but things will turn much more unsettled over the next 2a hours or so. this was the picture earlier on on sunday in braunston in northamptonshire. quite a lot of blue sky around there, if we take a look at the satellite picture though, through the course of the afternoon that cloud did start to build, so in filling some of those longer spells of sunshine, we have also had a few showers already around the east coast for the likes of aberdeenshire, down
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towards norfolk, and one or two around western parts of pembrokeshire, for instance, and cornwall as well. we have got a front that is pushing its way in from the north—west. meanwhile, higher pressure isjust holding on, it is trying to push on from the south—west, but that low pressure will win out as we head through this evening into tonight, too. that is going to spill outbreaks of rain across scotland and northern ireland tonight. much of england and wales should be staying dry with clearer skies for east anglia and the south—east. it is here that temperatures will fall lowest, down into the mid—single figures. for most of us, a frost—free but a cloudy and fairly damp start to your monday morning. so, we have got the outbreaks of rain from the word go, particularly across scotland, northern ireland, northern and western parts of england and wales, seeing the rain fairly quickly. this area of rain pushing slowly eastwards, so arriving across east anglia and the south—east of england through the latter part of the afternoon. that band of rain will be followed by some sunshine and a few blustery showers moving into scotland and northern ireland later in the day. it will be quite breezy with the outbreaks of rain and it will not feel particularly warm, only about 10—13 degrees, so a very different day tomorrow compared
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to what we have got today. heading through monday night now and into tuesday, low pressure is still with us, but it starts to drift away towards the near continent and that area of low pressure will be sitting across continental europe and driving our weather through much of the week. it will spill showers into the south and east in particular. for tuesday, plenty of showers to come across parts of england and wales. scotland and northern ireland tending to dry up, but we will see quite a fresh north—easterly breeze developing here, just taking the edge off the temperatures. in the sunshine, not feeling too bad, up to about 13 degrees or so, but you have got the cloud and the showers across much of england and wales. 11—14 here. and then as we look into the middle part of the week, we will keep that threat of a few showers, particularly towards the south—east, but for many other parts, things are looking largely dry with some sunshine, but temperatures still a little below par for this time of year. bye for now.
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the government works to finalise a new system of coronavirus restrictions in england, to be announced tomorrow. the strictest measures are expected for the north. some in liverpool made the most of a last saturday night out, with the possibility pubs may close. labour says the support being offered isn't enough. people feel that they haven't just been abandoned by the government, they now feel the government is actively working against us. there is nothing that we would ever do that penalises one part of the country over another. we'll be looking at the infection rates prompting the new measures, as people are urged to limit social contact. also on the programme... scientists investigate whether a vaccine in use for more than a century might give some protection against covid. so much for the ceasefire between armenia and azerbaijan,
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as shelling kills civilians. the buildings here are clearly residential. these were apartments, where people were asleep in their beds when the attack happened. and lewis hamilton equals michael schumacher‘s record, as he celebrates his 91st formula one victory. good afternoon. the government is trying to finalise details of a new system of coronavirus restrictions for england due to be announced in parliament tomorrow. with extra measures expected to apply to the north of england, the government has been under pressure from local leaders — and from some mps — to give them more detail on its plans, and to offer more financial support to business
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and individuals who'll be affected. let's join our correspondent danjohnson, who's in liverpool, where the infection rate is likely to mean significant new curbs on people's lives. case numbers have kept rising here here and in some other big cities, despite a layer upon layer of local restrictions that have been in place for weeks now. there is recognition that further measures are needed and theyis that further measures are needed and they is acknowledgement that will mean further economic pain, but these are difficult decisions that are in the balance here, and it's not just about wealth against health, this is about culture, enjoyment and the freedom we have to live our lives. there are no easy decisions. the government has a lot to consider and there really is a lot at stake here. 0n the loudest, liveliest streets, people worry about what's to come. and they want to be listened to, to be understood. all the things that are getting cancelled, the things we enjoy this time of year, halloween, bonfire night, christmas, these are the things
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that we are going to have to compromise with. if they'd have done it earlier, i think we wouldn't have gone this far. the only way you're going to do it is total lockdown. once you've got total lockdown, you've got it under control. we were doing really well before... all of this happened. but to listen to conor. running a pub already quietened by local restrictions. we are not even breaking even at the minute, never mind being able to claw back all the rent that we still owe or pay back the wages that we topped up, and further restrictions will just. .. it could be a final nail in a lot of people's coffins, unfortunately. and i would say our sales are down 50%. and jonathan is wondering whether restaurants will be hit by new tiers of rules. you know, liverpool has known tough years. i've been here when it's been tough, but, you know,
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over the last 10—15 years, it's been a brilliant place to be and it worries me that rug could be pulled. consider too the challenge of enforcing even tougher restrictions that have so far been rumoured, floated, leaked, but still not confirmed. i haven't felt anger like this towards the government since i was growing up here in the 1980s. people feel that they haven't just been abandoned by the government, they now feel that the government is actively working against us. it wasn't just liverpool busy at ten o'clock. look at london's leicester square. and in peckham they were playing cricket. the government denies it is unfairly targeting northern cities. you say that there is anger in the north. there is. but the measures we are bringing in here are universal. these apply across the whole of the united kingdom, and there is nothing that we would ever do that penalises one part of the country over another. after the curfew came in, it was just game over. but think aboutjoe, still paying for the taxi that no longer covers his bills. you don't know where you're going to be in four weeks' time.
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am i going to be driving a taxi, or going to be working in a factory or living on the dole with no money? these are delicate decisions, but in this city and others, people wonder how much they are about to be silenced. danjohnson, bbc news, liverpool. the latest government figures show there were 12,872 new coronavirus infections recorded in the latest 24—hour period. that means the average number of new cases reported per day in the last week was 14,391. 65 deaths were reported — that's people who died within 28 days of a positive covid—19 test. which means on average 68 deaths per day in the past week. the total number of deaths across the uk is now 42,825. within that overall picture there is significant variation in the situation in different parts of the uk.
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our medical editor fergus walsh has been looking through the latest data. there is a huge variation in coronavirus levels across the there is a huge variation in coronavirus levels across the uk. this heat map shows the areas in red with the highest levels, and those in light blue with the lowest. and look at the range, derry city and strabane look at the range, derry city and stra bane has 684 look at the range, derry city and strabane has 684 cases of coronavirus per 100,000 population. glasgow has 243. liverpool, 600. manchester has 525 coronavirus cases per 100,000 population. nottingham, 761. merthyr tydfil, 214. per 100,000 population. nottingham, 761. mertherydfil, 214. but per 100,000 population. nottingham, 761. merthyr tydfil, 214. but north norfolk has just 25 cases per 100,000 and tom ridge in north devon, only 18. what matters is the
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impact this is having on the nhs. in north—west england, the worst affected region, there has been a big increase in covid admissions in the past month. now averaging at around 150 patients per day, up by 60% injust one around 150 patients per day, up by 60% in just one week. but that is still below the peak in early april, when more than 400 patients a day we re when more than 400 patients a day were being admitted to hospitals in north—west with covid—19. the worrying thing now is that winter isn't here yet — the peak time for respiratory viruses. things like flu. the nhs coped during the first wave by cancelling nonurgent surgery and cancer screening. the aim this time is to continue with non—covid care, but that is dependent on how well coronavirus is kept in check for the next six months. fergus walsh, bbc news.
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as efforts continue to develop proven treatments for covid—19, british scientists are beginning a study into whether the bcg vaccine — which protects against tuberculosis — could be helpful. the uk study is part of an international reserach project. the hope is that bcg might provide some protection against covid until a specific vaccine against the virus is in use. james gallagher reports. in the fight against covid, scientists are turning to one of our oldest vaccines. archive: a new preventive weapon has nowjoined the battle. bcg vaccine... the bcg jab was designed to fight tuberculosis, and was first trialled in 1921. it has since been given to hundreds of millions of people. but now doctors think its effect on the immune system may lessen the impact of coronavirus, too. sam hilton is a gp. his job dealing with patients puts him at higher risk of getting covid. he's one of 1000 people in the uk, including care home staff and other health care workers, who will take part in the trial.
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having had the vaccine in childhood will not offer protection today. there's quite a good theory behind why the bcg vaccine might make you less likely to get unwell when you get covid, so i guess i see it as a potential for me to be protected a bit, which means i'm more likely to be able to come to work this winter. sam will get either the bcg jab or a dummy injection. then researchers will wait to see if the vaccine either alters the odds of getting covid or the severity of the infection. the data collected here in exeter will be combined with studies in australia, the netherlands, spain and brazil. there is no evidence bcg will help in the pandemic, so why do researchers think it might? this seems odd. vaccines are supposed to protect against one specific infection, so why might a tuberculosis jab also have a benefit in coronavirus? well, there's some interesting science that suggests that vaccines
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may have a wide effect across the whole of the immune system, that may give our bodies an edge against other viruses and infections, too. and indeed, in trials with the bcg jab, there has been a fall in death rates from other infections after people were vaccinated. the world health organization says the bcg jab might help bridge the gap until a dedicated coronavirus vaccine is developed. james gallagher, bbc news. the ceasefire brokered by russia between armenia and azerbaijan has been breached within its first 24 hours. the azeri president has accused armenia of a war crime after an apartment block was shelled, killing several civilians. the long running dispute between the two countries is over the nagorno—karabakh region. armenia says any attack was in response to air strikes launched from ganja — the city that was struck — from where our international correspondent 0rla guerin has sent this report.
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"let me see his face," she begs. "one last time." she is not alone in this desperate search. "let me see," says this woman. "is he from my family?" "may the armenians die", she cries. this is what's left of her neighbourhood in ganja, azerbaijan's second largest city. far from the front line, but not far enough. at the scene, remnants of what baku says was a ballistic missile. it is accusing armenia of a war crime. this was clearly a civilian target, apartment blocks, flats, where people were living.
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there is bedding and blankets and mattresses strewn among the rubble here. the attack happened at about 2am. now, this is supposed to be a ceasefire, but it looks more like all—out war. and what happens next? is there worse to come on both sides? standing here now, in the rubble, is the ceasefire dead? actually, it's hard to assess the situation. therefore, currently we are considering the situation. if armenia continues to attack azerbaijani civilians, then azerbaijan will be obliged to take necessary measures against legitimate military targets. you are saying that they have fired at you, and you are also saying that you reserve the right to retaliate. so which is it, are you sticking to the ceasefire or are you going to retaliate for this attack? at this stage we are trying to stick to our ceasefire regime, but of course, if they continue to do so, attacking azerbaijani civilians, as any nation, we also have a right to self defence.
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we were shown the destruction here in ganja, but azerbaijan too is accused of breaching the ceasefire by showing civilian the ceasefire by shelling civilian areas in nagorno—karabakh. "we are all mothers," this woman told me. "there and here — and our hearts are aching." 0rla guerin, bbc news, ganja, azerbaijan. with all the sport now, here's lizzie greenwood—hughes at the bbc sport centre. thanks very much. good evening. lewis hamilton has equalled michael schumacher‘s all—time record of 91 formula one victories. the championship leader won an action—packed eifel grand prix at the nurburgring — and is now also within just a couple of races of matching schumacher‘s seven world titles. joe wilson reports. down there, on germany's famous circuit, michael schumacher was
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equalled. lewis hamilton reached a record formula 1 equalled. lewis hamilton reached a record formula i thought would never be caught. the victory, 91, he had to get past his team—mate. both mercedes cars pushing the opening corner beyond its limits. foundry bottas stayed in the lead, so how within 20 minutes did hamilton get passed like that? some driver error by factory bottas followed by mechanicalfailure. the by factory bottas followed by mechanical failure. the dreaded words. i have no power. foundry got us words. i have no power. foundry got us out of the grand prix and hamilton free. another display of concentration, control, his mastery of motor racing. this moment has significance everywhere. a british leader of a global industry. the re cord leader of a global industry. the record is equalled, schumacher and hamilton. he does make it look a bit easy. it isn't easy. he is one of the legends of the sport. i would go further than that and say he is one of the greatest sportsmen in this country has ever produced. to mark the record, mick schumacher, an
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aspiring f1 driver, presented one of his father's racing helmets. driver to driver, equalled. joe wilson, bbc news. it's a busy weekend of international football. all the home nations are in action — including england who are currently losing 1—0 to the top ranked team in the world — belgium at wembley. that's after half an hour. wales played earlier but couldn't break down ireland in dublin. that finished 0—0. scotland and northern ireland kick—off their games later. the premier league has rejected a radical proposal from two of its biggest clubs which would include reducing the number of teams from 20 to 18. champions liverpool and manchester united are pushing the reforms, which have been supported by the football league. the idea is for elite clubs to pay more money to help the lower leagues, as well as scrapping the efl cup and the community shield. but the premier league says the idea could have a "damaging impact on the whole game" and wants everyone to work together.
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rafael nadal has been crowned french open champion for the 13th time. the king of clay beat the top seed novak djokovic 6-0, 6-2, 7-5 - winning it with an ace. nadal has now equalled roger federer‘s record of 20 grand slam singles titles. tyrell hatton has won the biggest golf tournament in britain this year — the bmw pga — by four shots. it was a fairytale home—coming for the englishman, who's been in the us all year due to the pandemic. hatton grew up watching the event at wentworth and said this is one he always wanted to win. and that's the sport. that's it. i'm back with the news at 10:00pm. now on bbc one it's time for the news where you are.
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hello. this is bbc news, with tim wilcox. well, as we've been hearing, one of the government's most senior scientific advisers is warning that the pandemic has reached a tipping point in some parts of the north of england. speaking on the andrew marr programme, the epidemiologist professor peter horby was asked if he agreed with that statement. u nfortu nately, unfortunately, i have to agree with that. the numbers are not looking good at all. we have an increase in
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cases, in hospitalisations, both in younger adults but also in the elderly and those most at risk, and we are seeing the numbers of deaths increase as well, so it really is a rather precarious point, i'm afraid. it's a precarious point, but we are ina it's a precarious point, but we are in a better situation when it comes to treatment and how much we know about the disease, presumably? there's a number of things that put us there's a number of things that put us in there's a number of things that put usina there's a number of things that put us in a better situation. we have much better testing and tracing capabilities and a better understanding of the disease. the risk of death in hospitalised patients is coming down. it was an about 25, 30% in the last wave, pretty high, and although the data is preliminary, it looks as though it is coming down below 20%, and that's a really positive piece of news. it is good news, but on the tipping point question, it has been suggested we might be close to having to cancel or delay nonurgent operations across the nhs to stop hospitals being overwhelmed this
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autumn. again, what is your view? are critical mission really is to protect the nhs, because we can't have a situation like we did back in march, where all the nonessential services were cancelled and we had a brick so backlog. we need to keep the prevalence, the number of infections down so that the hospitals can cope. we are already seeing in parts of the north that hospitals are starting to see the pressure. we have a doubling time of about 8—15 days, so it's not long before those intensive care unit beds could be full and we could be ina beds could be full and we could be in a really difficult situation, so i'm afraid we'll have to make some difficult choices and act very quickly. the white house doctor has confirmed that the us president is no longer a covid transmission risk to others, as donald trump resumes his election campaign. let's hear now from two men, the same age as president trump, who also caught the virus. both republican supporters,
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and both had very different recovery experiences to the president's. to my favourite people in the world, the seniors. i'm a senior... to my favourite people in the world, the seniors... chuckles. my gut reaction is it's genuine. for one thing, he seems genuine. that was 100% spin doctor talking. covid is not as simple of an illness as donald trump portrays. my name is matt, i am 75 years old. i am glen perkins, i am 74 years old today! he's the same age as me. i had covid, as a matter of fact i spent 76 days in various hospitals trying to beat it. when i went to the emergency room they said i had pneumonia and i was positive for covid so they shipped me right up to icu.
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they basically told her, your husband has less than 40% chance of surviving the week. they told my family to prepare for a funeral. my family even contacted a funeral parlour. the doctor said i probably had the worst case of covid they've seen. they tried everything in the book and they were able to pull me out. they did the same with my son, but they couldn't save him. i'm the one who should have died, not my 33—year—old son. he shouldn't have died, but he did. i don't remember anything until 22 days later when they...| remember them taking the tube out of my throat. there was the ipad, she said, "do you want to speak to your children"? this was the first time and i had tears coming down my eyes, because here i am, i'm alive. i had the will to live and i had this will to fight. if they couldn't kill me in vietnam, i wasn't going to let covid kill me. i went into the hospital a week ago, i was very sick.
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and i took this medicine and it was incredible. it was incredible. i could have walked out the following day. my suggestion now is shut your mouth and let the people who've have had it, let them do the talking, you don't know nothing, you didn't even have it. you had a mild case, you know. trust it from a republican to another republican, shut up, man. i learned so much about coronavirus. and one thing is for certain, don't let it dominate you, don't be afraid of it. i was listening to the president when he said don't be afraid of covid, you know, don't fear covid. and i agree with him. don't fear the disease, use caution, but don't fear it because if you get it, there's nothing you can do yourself to get rid of it. he's not a doctor, he's not a chemist, he's not a researcher, he's a businessman.
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he didn't know how this was going to affect. but once it got too extreme, i think he made the right moves. there's a time to downplay things and there's a time to get honest. and we're at the point they should have been honest with the people. you know, if there's one thing i learned in the military is, let's tell the truth, let's tell the guys what we're up against. the other thing i've seen is, i've seen these people don't wear masks, they don't practice social distancing and thatjust irks me. going on the campaign trail and having all these people close together in proximity, that i don't think was very, you know, very good. we had 27 people from our church get covid... we've had two people die. they were great people. what is it, is it like 200,000 roughly, a little more
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now that have died from it? remember those people. you know, pray forthem, pray for their family, things like that. because they died, not because they wanted to, because the backs were turned to them. i want people and i want america to remember that. if you're a patriot, you're going to remember those people. the views of republican voters matt and glen. we are back at the top of the arm. —— at the top of the hour. now, on bbc news, it's the film review. hello and welcome to the film review, with me, mark kermode, rounding up the best movies available for viewing in cinemas and in the home.
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