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shelling kills civilians, amid fresh fighting between armenia and azerbaijan, despite a ceasefire being called just hours before. let's bring you some breaking news on how the prime minister will announce the latest steps to control the spread of coronavirus in england. in the morning, borisjohnson will chair the government's cobra committee to determine the final interventions. in the afternoon, he will make a statement to mps in parliament laying out the latest measures — and hold a press conference in downing street alongside the chancellor rishi sunak and the chief medical officer for england chris whitty. the prime minister is expected to announce a new system of "local covid alert levels" in england. the country will be placed into "medium", "high" and "very high" alert levels. and as we've been hearing all evening, discussions about how
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those measures will work and what financial support will be available to affected areas are still on—going. now it's time for the papers. hello and welcome to our look ahead to what the the papers will be bringing us tomorrow. with me are comment and features editor of cityam rachel cunliffe and the daily mail's deputy political editorjohn stevens. tomorrow's front pages, starting with.. the telegraph says the prime minister is to unveil tough new regional lockdowns which are expected to see closing time called for hundreds of pubs in the north—west of england for four weeks from 5pm wednesday. the metro are calling it "locktober". the paper says a new three—tier system of local covid alerts will be announced,
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with some areas to see pubs and bars shut, along with beauty salons, gyms and betting shops, for up to six months. the mirror says up to 85% of workers fearjob cuts as new restrictions on people's freedom are brought in. the mail says the prime minister is facing growing criticism. one former conservative minister writes that lockdowns are not working, and they are destroying livelihoods and creating untold damage and poverty. the guardian says the uk is at a critical moment as new restrictions are brought in. the paper says the prime minister will underline the gravity of the situation with a televised downing street press conference tomorrow evening. and in other news, on the back pages — telegraph sport splashes on proposals from some of the premier leagues biggest clubs for a radical overhaul of english football that would see the top flight reduced to 18 clubs and major competions scrapped. so let's begin.
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let's start, if i can, with your rachel and the front of the metro. it isa rachel and the front of the metro. it is a striking image as the police have been relatively reluctant to be the enforcers of lockdown rules and there was this encouragement in the first phase that we should police ourselves a little bit, take a light touch approach. it looks like things are going to get tougher in the coming weeks, at least for some parts of the country. certainly per some parts of the country, yes. we have been braced for, all week, actually, for what any new restrictions coming and especially in the north of england are going to be. we were expecting to have a bit more detail on that tonight. the papers are still briefing what seems to bea papers are still briefing what seems to be a lot of speculation, but we know more restrictions are coming in at those ha rd—hit know more restrictions are coming in at those hard—hit northern areas and they are going to be quite severe. we have been hearing a lot about a three tier system with parts of the country under a severe alert which would mean pubs and restaurants are
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closing completely. including possibly as well beauty salons and gems. there has been talk about nonessential shops closing again. i think the idea of the second of them would very much be to keep schools open —— gyms. we know the detrimental impacts of those school closures were at the beginning. and to keep offices open as much as possible. at the top level, it looks as though virtually everything will be closing. that has been briefed throughout the week so i do not think there is much the price meant that although there will be a certain amount, a huge amount of angen certain amount, a huge amount of anger. what is surprising to me, reading that a huge amount of anger. what is surprising to me, reading that frontpage is how long restrictions could last there talking about six months, well into 2021. i'll talk of a christmas seems a naive allusion at this point. —— all talk. at beginning of lockdown we we re all talk. at beginning of lockdown we were told it was initially meant to last for three weeks and obviously, the full lockdown lasted more like three months. if they are believing that these restrictions
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could stay in place for the next six months, the idea that they are going to end any time sooner than that, again, looks like fantasy thinking, u nfortu nately. again, looks like fantasy thinking, unfortunately. john, the picture on the front of the metro is a liverpool and liverpool is a lot of -- is liverpool and liverpool is a lot of —— is where a lot of the attention is on. the mayor saying that tonight they will be in tier three. he does not know what the details and has not know what the details and has not agreed to it, but says that is what government intends. do you think there is any concern in downing street that this is kind of stalking perceptions of a north— south divide when there are other parts of the country where there are significant pockets, albeit not on a geographical sale that we are seeing in the north of ingrid? -- geographical scale. yes, ithink in the north of ingrid? -- geographical scale. yes, i think so. and i think they reason they have brought in a security system is because they were getting confused about the network of local actors in different towns and cities had a different towns and cities had a different restrictions, everyone seemed a bit confused about it. it was not clear —— local lockdowns.
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downing street is bringing these three tiers and boris johnson tomorrow is going to set out what any three tiers will be, but the thing that is still up in the air is which areas will be in which areas will be enriched years. and the government is still wrangling with these local leaders over that. you talk about the maid of liverpool city region there, he is unhappy, he says a deal has not been done —— in the mayor. we have had a lot from mayors in any greater manchester area concerned that we have shut hospitality, —— area concerned that we have shut hospitality, — — if area concerned that we have shut hospitality, —— if you shut hospitality, —— if you shut hospitality, it may not have the desired effect, they have spent a lot of money making everything covid secure lot of money making everything covid secure and you're taking people away from those places and putting them into homes and they will be less control of a social distancing. yes, i think it is a difficult one for the government. also this coronavirus crisis, the country seems to have been with the government on the restrictions, quite happy with the restrictions, but on this one, think downing street will not be happy that it
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looks like they are pitched against a north. especially after the last election when we saw boris johnson owes a lot of its majority to those seats in the north. that is something quite tricky for downing street. rachel, looking at the front of the daily mail is kind of evidence that depression is notjust coming from labour politicians. in the region, but from some conservatives to. well, we have finally got to 8.8 months into this crisis where there isa months into this crisis where there is a some semblance of an opposition to government by diktats, which is what we have had, essentially, since february with the government deciding what it is going to do, bypassing parliament, bypassing its own party, not really collaborating much with the nations or with local mayors and finally we are getting a little bit of resistance to that, that national unity mode that we saw in the spring is fraying so obviously you have local mayors and particularly labour mayors are saying we have not been consulted on this and it is going to be hugely
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detrimental to our local economies. you're also increasingly getting conservative backbenchers saying, we need to have an honest conversation about what the trade—off of lockdown measures are going to be. what hit to the economy are you willing to take, are you willing to take the associated health and education costs that come with that and that come with a country being in very deep recession for a number of yea rs 7 deep recession for a number of years? should we not have a voter that this not what parliament is back rush i think it is interesting that the which was particularly, got particularly criticised from across the board because one, it is not working, two it is hugely damaging, that was put in without any kind of parliamentary vote at all. a parliamentary vote on it is retrospective and has been enforced for the number of weeks with hugely damaging effects. i think some of that criticism and opposition that has been bubbling away beneath the surface because they were waiting to see go to the government pill is also a pandemic, that bloke and i
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are asking are asking the very fair question of do local lockdowns work —— the public are asking. if this policy is not working, why are we inflicting it on a multiple parts of the country? that is not a north — south question, that is not about north versus dinner read well, it is simply, does at the policy work —— versus simply, does at the policy work —— versus london, versus at the red wall. we have another local knock—down that came into force on saturday evening. it is interesting that the person they are quoting, john, and has presumably written in a bit more detail inside as former conservative minister is mcveigh who was one of those who was not very much as a johnson enthusiast. -- esther mcveigh. she also did the run in the lydia chip campaign against borisjohnson ——
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in the lydia chip campaign against boris johnson —— leadership campaign. you have these different groups of tory mps have kind of been unhappy with what is going on any backbenchers and they are limited in number, but they are being quite vocal about this. as rachel said, one of the concerns at today is about a possible exit strategy from these measures. you had at the conservative mayor of bolton, they have had a lockdown of some sort since july and he was saying, that does not seem to be any plan of taking on the sector mergers, how do we ever get out? sol taking on the sector mergers, how do we ever get out? so i think, —— of these extra measures. these are tier three measures, we put in for a period of four weeks to start and then there will be a review, but thatis then there will be a review, but that is a concern that if we start to get into the winter months, you start to kind of have hospitals under pressure anyway because of flu season,is under pressure anyway because of flu season, is there any chance that numbers are going to come down and local areas are going to be able to
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come out of these restrictions? there is a survey that appears any matter a survey by salvation, focused on the north of england. 85% fearfor focused on the north of england. 85% fear for jobs focused on the north of england. 85% fearforjobs and focused on the north of england. 85% fear forjobs and economy, focused on the north of england. 85% fearforjobs and economy, head of new rules. but specifically, we have got this figure inside asking whether they thought the original nocturne had ended too early. 56% said it had ended too early in the north of england —— original lockdown. that is quite striking, isn't it, because we were all desperate to get out of nocturne, but with hindsight, people feel that perhaps the government relaxed tewson lockdown. i wonder if there isa tewson lockdown. i wonder if there is a geographic factor —— too soon. would it have been politically possible to take some parts out of the lockdown, some parts of the country with that have been a cce pta ble country with that have been acceptable at the time, or this must
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be demand slow the uncertain areas, did that make more sense from a political point of view, and i'm not sure about that. what is interesting about this poll as i had read to others from the express and sky news, i think, others from the express and sky news, ithink, but others from the express and sky news, i think, but both said the majority of the country wanted a full lockdown and people wanted to cancel christmas if it meant saving lives and it was at the very top pro lockdown measure service. if you asked the question a different way, saying are you worried about your livelihood and the economy and losing jobs as a result of it, people overwhelmingly say yes. 85% of people say yes, they are worried about theirjobs of people say yes, they are worried about their jobs and of people say yes, they are worried about theirjobs and their financial situation, so i think we would have to be careful taking polls with a pinch of salt. we have to think about how the questions were asked, how they were framed. if someone is going to ask you, would you be prepared to not have a family christmas if it meant you could save your grandmother's life, you're going to get... it is quite hard to
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a nswer going to get... it is quite hard to answer any way other than one way u nless answer any way other than one way unless you do not like your grandmother. i think the been so focused on doing what the people are contradictory and it is very difficult to say that the poll status, the people say that and so we are going to act in a certain way. you will have less zigzagging effect which is going to make it harder to both control dividers and the economy —— there is a zigzagging effect. to control dividers and protect the economy. i would like the government to put nipples aside and focus on one way. —— to put the polls aside. do you think some of the criticism has hit home that the scheme he announced last week, two thirds of wages support for companies, businesses forced to close because of these new rules. these hit home that there is concern expressed about those on the lowest
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earnings that actually cut a third of their income because all of their bills are the same, they have less wiggle room, their savings, few are other options to allow them to continue to make ends meet? yes, and i think it is quite interesting that for the first time we will see boris johnson with a rishi sunak and with chris whitty. previously, when we have seen the sorts of announcements, we have eitherjust seen borisjohnson announcements, we have eitherjust seen boris johnson with the help of experts are we have seen rishi sunak. i think downing street are very keen to put out this idea that we are keenly balancing the economic side and the health side and i think thatis side and the health side and i think that is why they are going to have the chancellor there tomorrow. but i think one of the concerns that has been raised by some of the local leaders is about this new version of the furlough scheme. during the first lockdown, people were unable to act, the government would cover 80% of their wages. this new version of furlough for the winter months and people are unable to work if the government has shut down their
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workplace, a pub restaurant, the government will cover 67% of their wages. one of the arguments are —— a pub restaurant, one of the argument is any northern areas is if you're unable to work, what is the difference between a few months ago and now. ithink difference between a few months ago and now. i think that will be a tricky one for the government. a lot of businesses will be looking at these new restrictions on the first lockdown, you know, we thought it was going to be temporary, we thought it would be a few months and you would be able to get out of it and recover. now there does not seem to be any end in sight and if you're any business, you have your error is restricted or if your shutdown, i think we might see a lot of firms just thinking, there is no hope for me and up shop. it is a dispiriting thought to end on. john and rachel, thank you for now. until 1130. we will try to find a few more upbeat study so that people can go to bed with a spring in their step if possible —— up beating —— upbeat
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stories. that's it for the papers this hour. i will be back with you at the top of the error. let's join the team for click. hey, welcome to click. hope you're doing ok. it's been nearly seven months now since we all packed up our camera kits on this programme and took them home. even back in march we were being told we needed to get ready for the long haul, but i'm not sure many of us were able to mentally prepare for that properly. how are you doing, lara? well, i can't believe it has been that long already.
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i think there's a strange sense of us restarting this again. i suppose things had got a little bit back to normal but now we know we will be continuing for quite a while. one thing that i am starting to feel better about, though, and i think quite a few other people may be as well, is starting to differentiate between home and work life, even though it's all happening in one place. yeah, it is tricky to get the boundaries right though, i have to say. for example this is what happens at my place every week. i have to take over the entire living room and then we have these loud script meetings somewhere else in the house beforehand. of course working from home can mean a lot of video calls, and that puts you at the mercy of meetings being interrupted by the dreaded free... er, yeah, that. which is really annoying when the person speaking was about to make a brilliant point. i think what lara was about to say is that chris fox has found a new way to keep talking even
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when your internet isn't playing ball. hi everyone, thanks forjoining today's video call, hopefully you don't notice anything unusual about my face — because this isn't technically a live video of me, in fact i am not even looking at the camera, i'm using computer trickery to make it look like i am. what you've just seen is one of several tools being developed by nvidia, the graphics card maker that it hopes will change video calling and make it possible even on really slow internet connections like at my mum and dads house. streaming video can use a lot of bandwidth so the idea here is to send just a few key components instead, a reference image of the caller and tracking data capturing their facial expressions. these can be recompiled at the other end, closely matching the originalfootage. this is still in development. it only works if you have a static background and there are a few times where my avatar looked a bit weird, but this is using a fraction of the data that video calling would.
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nvidia says this technique uses about 3 kilobits per second of video, although, obviously, you'd have to layer audio on top of that too. the other benefit is that they can use face tracking data for other things like animating a cartoon avatar in real—time for you to use in your video call, although i'd probably choose a more exciting design than this. i've been told on twitter it makes me look like jacob rees—mogg. they can also use face tracking data to change the direction you're looking so that you're always facing the camera. the question is, is this me? i mean, it looks like me and it is controlled by me but it's not me, it's more of a puppet of me, isn't it? to get philosophical i called nvidia's richard kerriss and asked him whether using avatars like this might make video calls less personal. well, hopefully not. hopefully it's driven by you or driven by me and we would then be the puppetmaster, in your analogy, but i think it's, you know, if i can have a better experience
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in my conversation with you by having a clearer picture and less diversions of things, whether it's noise or video backgrounds and stuff, i think that helps personalise it more. we've seen the capabilities of deep fakes and the kind of things people use it for, isn't there the possibility that people might use this kind of technology for dishonest purposes? good question. but that's not our intent. our intent is really to improve the workflows that people deal with on a given basis, and, look, there will always be ways that people can — you can make movies of yourselfjust by doing this. i've seen kids in school doing that, my daughter, someone got in trouble at school because they made a rather lengthy loop of them paying attention in class. there will always be that kind of stuff but that is not our intent. nvidia hopes its tools will be integrated into the big video calling platforms. the first one to sign on as avaya. and we are seeing ai tools creep into our video calling software, we have noise suppression in zoom and eyeline correction in apple's facetime. but, for me, the one ai feature
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i hope they can add next is one that can eliminate unnecessary video calls. that was chris. now, one of the companies that has had huge success during the pandemic is zoom. it may have been founded in 2011 but it's only really been since march this year that saying you're zooming someone has become part of everyday conversation. so spencer has caught up with harry moseley, the company's chief information officer, to find out a little bit more about the zoom boom and how he perceives the future of work. the world changed for pretty much everyone in march and suddenly most of the world seemed to want to conduct video conferencing en masse. i would imagine that the world changed for zoom pretty drastically at that point, yeah? one could say so, i mean if you go back to december 2019, we had north of 10 million daily
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participants on the platform, in march it went to 200 million people, and in april it shot up to over 300 million daily participants on the platform. i want to talk about your virtual background, because that's the thing that's just amazed so many people. can you explain what's going on, because it looks to me like it's trying to find the human being, and as i move different objects across my body you can see it kind of removes them, which is very... it obviously knows that that is not part of a hand, that cup is not part of my body and so it's removing it from my hand. what is going on? it's mapping out my body, it's so it can recognise my face and...and it's also focused on this room. but, typically, when you walk backwards into the virtual background, you actually disappear into the virtual background, i don't know if you've noticed that.
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yep, yeah. because it's...the camera seeing, you know, sort of, it's seeing the physical presence and then it's...but then it can't see it because it's out of the range and then it sort of lays over the virtual background. it's pretty clever stuff. now, over the past few years we've found ourselves spending more and more time inside food computers. now, these mainly involve growing food in special nutrient mixes inside shipping containers. you may remember the strawberries that we saw in paris and the delicious salad that i tried in los angeles. the idea is to both precisely control the growing conditions, but also produce food closer to where it's going to be consumed. but now there's a new idea. it's not about growing fruit or vegetable, but insects. paul carter has been to find out more and filed this bug report.
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rooster crows wood farm. a family run business in the green fields of cambridgeshire. home to fourth—generation farmers charles and joe, a flock of 28,000 free range chickens, and, now, six million wriggling black soldier fly larvae. don't worry, these are for the hens. winner, winner, chickens' dinner. oh, my god, there's millions in there. you don't need to stick your hand... you don't need to touch it. i don't want to touch it any more than you do. i really don't want to touch it. no. the chickens here are used to eating locally milled wheat. sounds delicious. but now home—grown insects are on the menu, thanks to this ai—connected containerfarm. it's a system which allows byproducts to be upcycled on site into high—quality,
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high—protein animal feed. the climate—controlled system is made up of trays stacked on robotic rollers. each holds around 20,000 larvae, which get their own snacks from liquid feed. all this is controlled by a panel on the wall with an app also in development. typically, industrial—scale insect farms grow and process larvae onsite, before shipping to customers. better origin, the university of cambridge spin—out behind this trial, say they want to democratise insect production to farmers themselves. if you think of feed, right, it travels a very long distance to get to the point of farm. soy usually travels from brazil, ok? by putting a system on site, you dramatically cut down on all that food miles. not only that, you can do it vertically. but the smartest bit of all this is the ai that's
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monitoring the bugs. a combination of sensors speak with each other, sharing data around temperature, humidity, ph, and motion. computer vision systems analyse how quickly they consume their food and how much they're moving. this information is put through a neural network to detect how each tray of insects is performing, if they need more less food, and if they are healthy or not, so the farmer can intervene. of course, the main thing for farmers like charles is that it is easy to use, and results in happy hens. the trials that we've done, we have seen that the gut health on the bird has been fantastic. we've seen that feather coverage has been fantastic. so all round, we think it's probably the best enrichment we've ever come across. now, it wouldn't be click if i didn't familiarise myself with the grubs, and get in with the hens, who've been hiding inside the barn from the rain.
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try and get in before they get out. come on, girls. it's grubs up for the chickens, quite literally. i've never seen anything like it. they love it. they're pecking my feet. it's a good job i don't have feet. that was paul with 12,000 of his new best friends. anyone needs any eggs, by the way, paul's your man. now, that's it for the shortcut version of click. the full length version is, of course, waiting for you right now on iplayer. and as ever, you can keep up the team throughout the week on youtube, instagram, facebook and twitter at @bbcclick. thanks for watching, and we'll see you soon. bye— bye.
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claudia gradually spreading their eastwards. there may be a little bit about this first anglia, quickly clouding over. rain across scotland, north and western england, northern ireland, there their way through the morning, blustery conditions and if your showers later, maybe some late sun chang, not letting the morning, blustery conditions and if your showers later, maybe some late sun chang, north—west england in north—west wales. when it where they were, lighter winds for arriving in east anglia and south—east later, but a cold day. so in the midlands and yorkshire may only be around 9 degrees. intimate evening, rain will linger across east anglia and the south—east, returning back into northern scotland with some showers
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this is bbc news with the latest headlines for viewers in the uk and around the world. in britain, the government prepares to announce a new three—tier system for covid restrictions for england — restrictions for england with liverpool likely to see signficant curbs. areas that go into the higher levels would see extra restrictions on hospitality and socialising — ministers say they are acting in line with the evidence rescuers search for survivors after an attack on azerbaijan's second biggest city as a truce in the nagorno karabakh conflict unravels. there's bedding and blankets and mattresses strewn among the rubble here. the attack happened at about 2am. this is supposed to be a ceasefire but it looks more like all—out war.
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