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hello, this is bbc news. the headlines. the prime minister sets out a new 3 tiered system of restrictions across england to try to get coronavirus back under control. these figures are flushing out is like dashboard warnings in a passenger jet like dashboard warnings in a passengerjet and like dashboard warnings in a passenger jet and we like dashboard warnings in a passengerjet and we must act now. only liverpool city region is placed under the most severe restrictions pubs and bars will close. but england's chief medical officer warns even that may not be enough to control the virus . iam not i am not confident and nor is anybody confident that the tier 3 proposals for the highest rates, if we did the absolute base case and
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nothing more, would be enough to get on top of it. we report from one hospital on merseyside, an area where admissions could reach peak pandemic levels within 10 days. no change for most of england although there are additional restrictions in nottinghamshire, east and west cheshire and a small part of the peak district. a levels and gsces in england will go ahead next year but most will be delayed by 3 weeks. the prime minister has set out a new 3 tiered system of restrictions across england. government scientists warned earlier today that more people are in hospital now with covid than at the time of national lockdown in march. but only liverpool city region has been placed under the new most
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severe restrictions. for other areas with high infection rates, the prime minister says only that discussions with local leaders are continuing. the new restrictions will start from wednesday and will be broken down like this: the lowest is the medium level of restrictions where the current national rules continue like only being able to meet six other people and the 10pm curfew for pubs, bars and restaurants. most of england remains in this tier. next is the high level which means that there can be no household mixing indoors anywhere, with the rule of 6 still applying outdoors. most areas in england currently under stricter measures will be placed in tier 2. in addition nottinghamshire, east and west cheshire and a small area of the peak district will also move into this tier. tier 3 is the very high level of restrictions. it prohibits any mixing of households indoors or outdoors
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except for public spaces such as parks, meaning friends can meet, for example, for a walk. pubs and bars close. in tier 3, additional measures can be put in place with support from the local authorities. the liverpool city region is the only area so far to enter this tier. meanwhile in wales, the health minister there says a decision will be made in the coming days on new lockdown measures and in northern ireland, health officials are understood to be urging ministers to take decisive action. scotland's nicola sturgeon says she will draw up her own tiered framework towards the end of the month. in the past hour the prime minister has laid out the reasons for today's changes. we are entering a new and crucial phase in the fight against coronavirus because the number of cases has gone up coronavirus because the number of cases has gone up four times in four weeks and it's once again spreading amongst the elderly and vulnerable.
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there are already more covid patients in uk hospitals today than they were on the 23rd of march when they were on the 23rd of march when the whole country went in to lockdown and deaths, alas, are also rising once again. these figures are flashing at us like dashboard warnings ina flashing at us like dashboard warnings in a passengerjet and we must act now. so, we are giving local authorities across england around £1 billion so that they can protect vital services as they fight the virus. nightingale hospitals across the north of england are being prepared for service and, so that we can squash this virus wherever it appears, we are today simplifying, standardising and, in some places, toughening local rules in england by introducing three levels of covid alert. medium, with existing national measures, such as the rule of six and the closure of
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hospitality at ten p m. hyatt, with extra measures including a ban on indoor social mixing. —— extra measures including a ban on indoorsocial mixing. —— hi. and very high, places where without further action, the nhs would be under intolerable pressure. nowhere will be shut down indefinitely and these will be reviewed every few weeks. the exact restrictions at this level, very high, will be worked out with local leaders along with tailored packages of support. but at a minimum, at a with tailored packages of support. but ata minimum, ata minimum, they will sadly include a ban on all social mixing between households in private places, including gardens and pubs and bars must close unless they can operate solely as a restau ra nt they can operate solely as a restaurant serving alcohol only as pa rt restaurant serving alcohol only as part of a main meal. we will also ask people not to travel into and out of very high alert level areas.
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no one affected by this will be left to fend for themselves and we are going to expand our unprecedented economic support to assist those affected by these decisions. extending ourjobs support scheme to cover two thirds of the wages of those in any business that is required to close and providing those businesses with a cash grant of up to £3000 a month instead of £1500 every three weeks and extra funding as well for those in the very high category for local test and trace and enforcement. you will shortly be able to type in your postcode to the government website and see exactly what restrictions apply where you live. the chancellor, rishi sunak said the public could be reassured by the comprehensive plan the government had to protect jobs and businesses:
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0ur winter economy plan has three parts. first, the jobs 0ur winter economy plan has three parts. first, thejobs support scheme will protectjobs, whether your business is open or closed. if your business is open or closed. if your business is open or closed. if your business can open safely, but with reduced or uncertain demand, the government will directly subsidise people's wages over the winter, giving businesses the option to bring people back to work on shorter hours, rather than making them redundant. that's the right approach for businesses who can remain open. but businesses who are being asked to close will need further support. so on friday, i announced that we are expanding the jobs support scheme. if the closures mean you are unable to work for one week or more, mean you are unable to work for one week 01’ more, your mean you are unable to work for one week or more, your employer will still be able to pay you two thirds of your normal salary in the uk government will cover the cost. this national programme will benefit
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people the same wherever they live and whatever job people the same wherever they live and whateverjob they do. the existing fellow scheme continue throughout october with the newjobs support scheme available from november, so there is no gap in support. and to give people and businesses certainty, the scheme will run for six months through to next spring. the jobs will run for six months through to next spring. thejobs support scheme is in line with most other major european countries. and to support the lowest paid through this crisis, we have also made our welfare system more generous and more responsive as well. second, businesses in england who are legally required to close can now claim a cash grant of up to £3000 per month, depending on the value of their business premises. those grants can be used for any business costs and will never need to be repaid. i'm guaranteeing an
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extra £1.3 billion of funding to the scottish, welsh and northern ireland administrations, if they choose to do something similar. third, the prime ministers announced today that we are providing additional funding for local authorities. for local authorities entering level three, we are providing up to half £1 billion to fund activities like enforcement, compliance and contact tracing. and to protect vital services, we are providing around £1 billion of additionalfunding for providing around £1 billion of additional funding for all local authorities, on top of the £3.7 billion we already have provided since march. england's chief medical officer chris whitty said more measures may yet be needed. iam not i am not confident and nor is anybody confident that the tier three proposals for the highest rates, if we did the absolute base case and nothing more, it would be enough to get on top of it and that
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is why there is a lot of flexibility in the tier three level for local authorities guided by the directors of public health, who are absolutely superb around the country, to actually go up that range, so that they can do significantly more than they can do significantly more than the absolute base, because the base will not be sufficient, i think that is very clearly the professional view, but there are quite a lot more additional things that could be done within that with local guidance. let's speak to the shadow... his constituents will be in tier 2 from wednesday. it's interesting, because i think wednesday. it's interesting, because ithink in wednesday. it's interesting, because i think in some parts of the constituency, you havejust two cases per 100,000. so, constituency, you havejust two cases per100,000. so, are constituency, you havejust two cases per 100,000. so, are you happy to be in tier 2 or do think there is a case for going further? well, i think the whole thing has been handled incredibly badly, really.
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it's been a symptom of the chaos that we have seen for some time now, we didn't know what would happen until about 20 minutes before the prime minister made his announcement. 0ur council has been waiting nearly two weeks to get a nswe rs waiting nearly two weeks to get answers about what we wanted them to do to get on top of infections and to be told 20 minutes before the prime minister makes a statement what is going to happen is not the way to bring people will you —— with you and engender confidence. the government is imploring labour to put pressure on some of the lower the local councils and the worst affected areas and we just heard from chris whitty, he was suggesting that they should. the labour support the prime minister? we are going to speak to our colleagues in local government about their concerns. there is very real concern the financial support being offered by the government. in march, the government said that it couldn't ——
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like if you couldn't work because yourjob and been affected by coronavirus, you are entitled to 80% of your wages. they are now saying you can get two thirds, so a 14% drop. that's a big amount for a lot of people on minimum wage who are in the hospitality sector, for example, who will be affected by this. so we need be absolutely clear that our collea g u es need be absolutely clear that our colleagues in local government are confident that there is sufficient financial support. just on that point, though, the new scheme, the jobs support scheme, it makes workers better off than the existing fellow scheme as it has been scaled down, doesn't it? as the furlough scheme has scaled down, government contribution has reduced, but at the same time, businesses have opened up on what we are talking about here is closing down the hospitality sector altogether, potentially. its £2100 cap on out under the new scheme, but under the old furlough arrangement,
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its 1875, so it is £250 more, isn't it? well, for a lot of people, that figure is not what they are earning anyway, we are talking about some of the lowest paid people in society andi the lowest paid people in society and i think what is happening in two areas, we are in the worst of all worlds because we are getting restrictions on hospitality, the 10pm curfew, people are now not able to meet, people from outside their own households in pubs, but there is no financial support in place for them, it really is the worst of all worlds. chris whitty made it clear that it was a public duty for eve ryo ne that it was a public duty for everyone to conform to these arrangements now. will you come out of public duty, ask your constituents to follow this? of course i will. we all want the virus to be beaten and for us to get life back to normal, but it seems at the moment the government don't have a clear strategy to do that and the
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fundamental problem here which wasn't addressed at all today was the failure to fix test, trace and isolate over the summer when cases we re isolate over the summer when cases were low. we had the worst performing figures on that since it started in the last week, when cases are rising, just when we need it to be working most. we didn't hear anything from the prime minister today about what he plans to do to put that right. that is critical moving forward. every scientific adviser has said that if you ease lockdown restrictions, you have to have test and trace working properly. 0k, justin madders, shadow health secretary. we were just discussing that the primacy doesn't have everybody on board. 0ur political correspondent, helen catt, is at westminster. yes, there were hints there from the prime minister though that wasn't quite over the line, that some areas
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will be moving up to the highest level of restrictions. it highlights the importance of getting local leaders on board. 0ver the past few days, there has been considerable discontent tween regional leaders about the government's approach this and the level of engagement and communication. so they do seem to be a bit of an issue around that. potentially, there has been this agreement reached within the liverpool city region and now it is a case of looking at the other is to see where they get to. really intriguingly actually, one critical voice this evening is the conservative mayor of the west midlands, andy street. he said the decision to put birmingham into tier 2 was not supported by local leaders, particularly because it would now mean restrictions on households mixing within pubs and restau ra nts households mixing within pubs and restaurants which were not in place currently and it wasn't what he had been led to believe would be happening, so there is certainly some discontent there. really clear
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in his press conference there though that while he wants to get local leaders on board, it is up to the government to reduce restrictions. by government to reduce restrictions. by getting local leaders on board to impose even stricter lockdown measures, that would be one way of perhaps sharing the public anger in some cases or angst about these new restrictions? as you pointed out there, chris whitty pointed out that in his view, those with the highest level of restrictions, that it isn't enough. they need to go further. but if you listen to what he said, he was talking about local authorities going further but being guided by the government so again, there is a level of whether or not they get to an agreement on that. the big sticking point does seem to be around this issue of money and finance and how to compensate businesses adequately if they are having to either close their doors or in the cases of places that are
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going into tier 2 restrictions, where people are being restricted from mixing in pubs and restaurants, actually, some of those most concern because they're not being told they have to close by law, so they are not eligible for this 67% of the funding of their wages, but the customers are being told not to meet people outside their household which will restrict custom, so that is where a lot of the concern is laying this evening. we will be speaking to business owners and hospitality organisations in the next hour. helen, thank you very much. the latest official figures show a rise in new infections, 13,972 were recorded in the past 2a hours. the average number of new cases recorded per day in the last week is 111,000 588. hospitaladmissions per day in the last week is 111,000 588. hospital admissions have also increased, on average, 615 people are being omitted every day over the past seven days. this number doesn't include scotland. 50 deaths have
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been reported, people who have died within 28 days in a positive covid—19 test. that figure is usually lower after the weekend, which means on average in the past week, 72 deaths were announced every day which takes total number of deaths so far across the uk to 42,875. this morning senior government medical advisers warned that pressure is building on the nhs, with a stark rise in hospital admissions in the north of england and that the infection is spreading across the younger generation to the old. the nightingale hospitals in manchester, sunderland and harrogate, set up for the first wave of coronavirus, are now being mobilised for the second. there are more patients in hospital with covid—19 than when the national lockdown happened in march,
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and government scientists warn the numbers will rise. we have baked in additional hospital admissions, and sadly, we also have baked in additional deaths, that are now consequent upon infections that have already happened. there have been almost no hospital admissions among the under—18s, the flat line there, and there has been some increase among those aged 18—64. but now look at those aged 65—84, a sharp rise in hospital admissions, and even more striking among those aged 85—plus, reinforcing the evidence that it is the elderly who are most at risk from coronavirus, even though most cases are among the younger age groups. many who were never admitted to hospital have lingering health problems, like fatigue, so—called long covid. and then there are all the usual demands on the health service.
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much non—urgent care was postponed when the virus first hit. the hope this winter is that that won't happen. contact your gp if you're worried about cancer symptoms, an unusual lump, for example, or blood in your urine. use the emergency service if you have chest pain or another acute condition. we are determined to keep that capacity for non—covid services open for as long as possible. but the key to this is reducing infection rates. so much depends on whether the rise in coronavirus infections can be curbed. this map shows the rate of change of coronavirus in england. the areas with the sharpest rise in rates are shown in red, and you can see they're notjust in the north of england. the epidemic is also growing further south, especially in parts of london and the home counties, even though case numbers are still much higher in the north.
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nhs leaders warn that within four weeks, some hospitals in northern england could be treating more covid patients than they were in april, and they're urging the public to respect the rules on coronavirus. fergus walsh, bbc news. so as we've heard the liverpool city region is in the only place in england placed in the highest tier with the greatest restrictions. as well as pubs and bars, the local authorities have agreed that gyms, leisure centres, betting shops and casinos will all have to close too. the prime minister says this decision was made in agreement with local leaders, danny savage is in liverpool and says they're not sounding happy. the maze for the area have issued a joint statement saying that it was made clear to us that the government would be doing this regardless of whether we engage with them or not. they disagreed with the level of the
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furlough scheme that has been announced. they say it is inadequate and risks pushing tens of thousands of low—paid workers below the national minimum wage. in reality, that translates to business owners wondering if they will go bust or not and workers left in tears. in these areas, the government says... in private gardens and, i'm sorry to say, closing pubs and bars. once again, the prime minister is calling last orders at the bar. not everywhere, but here in liverpool, they know it's coming. the owner feels a sense of doom and says government compensation isn't enough. we've already checked this figure and it worked out as vibrant pounds a week. my fixed cost of £2500 a week. whether we are trading or not, i still have to pay that every week in bills, so £500 is not going to do anything. from wednesday, the livable city region will face those tougher restrictions. this part will probably shut. paul works a full
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time and is devastated. it'sjust a bit worrying. you have a good employer here who paid you 100% last time and you're hoping that will happen again? i don't expect anything because it's not fair to put it all on... to put it all on the employer. it's not fair. put it all on... to put it all on the employer. it's not fairlj put it all on... to put it all on the employer. it's not fair. i think we might get close down. the employer. it's not fair. i think we might get close downlj the employer. it's not fair. i think we might get close down. i think we will. i think a lot of businesses won't open again. it's what everyone is talking about. it makes me really worried. because if we are not shut down first of all, it frightens people more, fewer people come out and fewer people come to get their hair cut. i've had quite a few people in today, mostly because they are scared in case we shut down again. in a nearby cafe, alex and alex are both doctors. they have
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seen events unfolding first—hand.“ you put the admissions rates in hospital at the moment, we are approaching where we were in march. we are rapidly heading that way. approaching where we were in march. we are rapidly heading that waym would be a pretty big deal locking down, but it might be necessary. i'm not sure. the restrictions will start in two days' time. who knows when they will end? danny savage, bbc news, liverpool. let's speak to kate nichols, the ceo of uk hospitality. what's your reaction? today's announcements are heartbreaking for many businesses not just heartbreaking for many businesses notjust in heartbreaking for many businesses not just in liverpool heartbreaking for many businesses notjust in liverpool but across vast swathes of the north and midlands who are being put into tier 2 restrictions, which will severely damage their trade and i really fear that without further compensation and support from the government, many of those businesses will be unviable in the longer term and we will see hundreds of thousands of
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job losses across hospitality. are you satisfied that the medical evidence is there to justify targeting the hospitality sector? well, that's far from clear. targeting the hospitality sector? well, that's farfrom clear. we heard from the chief medical officer at this evening's press conference saying that the evidence was evolving, but it was clear that a balance had to be struck and they we re balance had to be struck and they were sacrificing parts of the economy in order to keep other parts of the economy open and to drive down the r number. we understand the difficult balancing act that the government has to make but it's only fair that if these businesses are having to close to enable other parts of the economy to remain open, that they are provided with adequate compensation and the workers are supported. in particular, the chancellor and the prime minister talked about the support available across other european countries and we would like to see that level of support provided to our businesses that are having to bear the brunt of these restrictions, closures and job losses. what is interesting and infection rates is that where two
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people have been tested positive, it seems that they make up 30% of the people and they have been, that is asa people and they have been, that is as a result of meeting through leisure activities and the hospitality sector, so the science isn't crystal clear, is it? but i suppose for a government, it is easier to close down the pub or about them it is to close down households, where most infections seem to take place at the moment? the level of linked infections where you have one or more a case that is directly attributable to a venue, only 3% are in hospitality. the other research that was cited was to say that, people who were tested positive, a third of them had visited hospitality venues in the previous week. that doesn't mean if they caught it there, but it's irrelevant. we have this new system in place, what's important now is that, whatever the evidence is, the government needs to accept that
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these businesses are suffering 50% or 60% drops in trade and there are millions of people whose jobs are still fully supported by furlough in the hospitality sector. so we need to get to the level of support that the businesses are receiving across europe when facing similar restrictions and if the government is serious about avoiding mass redundancies in hospitality, then it needs to step up and review the financial triggers that give that support to businesses that are in level two and level three, because they are suffering significant drops in trade as a result of the changes. conversely though, businesses in tier 3, when the government is forcing shutdown, will be entitled to thejobs forcing shutdown, will be entitled to the jobs support forcing shutdown, will be entitled to thejobs support scheme, which is more generous than what they get in tier1 and more generous than what they get in tier 1 and tier 2. more generous than what they get in tier1 and tier 2. we are more concerned about the businesses in tier1 and concerned about the businesses in tier 1 and tier 2 concerned about the businesses in tier1 and tier 2 because as a result of the curfew and the rule of six, most businesses have seen a third drop in their revenue. tier 2 restrictions where they have
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restrictions where they have restrictions on household mixing, it is dropped by 60% since they were reduced in the north—east, so those are the businesses that are going to be the least viable and have the least ability to retain jobs, and the support they are getting from government isjust 22%, the support they are getting from government is just 22%, not 67%, the wages of their staff, so that's where we're going to see the real job losses across vast swathes of the north and the midlands and hospitality, unless we can up that contribution from government from that 22% to the 67%. kate nicholls, thank you very much forjoining us. they want to put you in tier three? 0r they want to put you in tier three? or the conversation started on friday evening with senior government advisers whose starter for ten was to put the whole of the
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north of england into tier three. we we re north of england into tier three. we were concerned and the clear message from all council leaders, friday evening, saturday and sunday was, look, putting us into tier three, shutting down parts of our hospitality sector, is going not to deal with those. we are more concerned about dealing with... to deal with the pandemic. i am glad that roughly at three o'clock this afternoon, the government saw sense and agreed with those to put us into tier 2, which is not the ideal solution, but is far better than tier three. but i am worried on behalf of my colleagues and the people i represent that more pressure will be heaped on lancashire for us to go into tier three. the packages available, it's simply not acceptable. if you were to go into tier three, and it would be interesting just to hear how many cases you have per 100,000, but
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businesses hospitality sector in tier three are more generously treated than in tier 2. they are, but the fact remains that a lot of businesses, for example, if the government decides to put it into tier three and closed the pub or a bar, it's not just tier three and closed the pub or a bar, it's notjust that pub or the bar, it's notjust that pub or the bar, it's notjust that pub or the bar, it all the services that supply it. what the government don't realise is that pub is opposites in isolation. for a lot of people in rural parts of the community, the pope is the only source of their social activity. if the government close that, pubs have gone way beyond the call of duty to ensure that they are safe. but it easy for the government to pin the blame on pubs and bars in our area. they need to be working with the community and working with businesses. in terms of the financial package, i have a lot of people working on minimum wage in
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these bars and clubs and if the government thinks they can survive on 66% of their income coming up to christmas, they are not living in the real world. that's assuming that the real world. that's assuming that the company employees make up the difference. they won't because a lot of companies are already struggling and we have been under restrictions and we have been under restrictions and parts of pendle for over six months. i have talked to businesses who are struggling at the moment and a lot of businesses... eye and telling government today that there is no way that a lot of business owners can maintain their level of income. it's not fair on the employers and it's not fair on business. they need to work with local councils. we are willing to work with government but it has to be an honest dialogue. we can't have this cloaks and daggers and trying to say one thing to the national media that parts of my area in tier 2and media that parts of my area in tier 2 and then behind the scenes... it's
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not going to happen. 2 and then behind the scenes... it's not going to happenlj 2 and then behind the scenes... it's not going to happen. i think the 377 cases per 100,000 people in the past week where you are. what number would convince you that you needed to go into tier three? it's not about the numbers game here. these are peoples lives. that's why liverpool are being urged to go into tier three. their areas across the country that are significantly higher. the government refused to negotiate on that, and this is not down to hospitality or shops. this is down to the education sector. the government need to give all the resources to death of many people as possible. we can't do that on her own. so we can betray that to
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the community and work with our businesses —— portray that. the community and work with our businesses -- portray that. thanks very much indeed forjoining us here on bbc news. let's catch up with some weather with ben rich. brighter skies following from the west and i think we will see more in the way of dry and fairly bright weather through the rest of this week. it is going to stay on the chilly side. through the rest of the evening and tonight, we see outbreaks of rain pushing across against eastern england. returning to parts of eastern scotland through the night as well. 2 degrees in glasgow, a little bit chilly for southwest scotland and parts of northern england. showers will post southwards to the southwest of england during tomorrow. 0utbreaks of rain continued to affect parts of eastern england, northern england, north wales through the afternoon. drying up and brightening up from the north across scotland and
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northern ireland what year it will be particularly windy and it's going to be —— highs of 14 degrees. things look fairly bright but with quite a lot of cloud and it will stay rather chilly. the headlines on the dot the prime minister sets out a new 3—tier system of restrictions to get coronavirus back under control. these figures are flashing at us like dashboard warnings and we must act now. only liverpool is pushed under the most severe restrictions with pubs and bars close, but england's chief medical officer said they mount and —— that might not be
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enough. nor is anybody confident that the tier three proposals for the highest rates if we did the absolute base case and nothing more would be enough to get on top of it. merseyside, and areas where emissions could reach peak pandemic levels. there are additional restrictions and nottinghamshire, east and west cheshire in a small pa rt east and west cheshire in a small part of the peak district. those areas into your to have the worst of both worlds. we have restrictions on hospitality, people now unable to meet other people from outside their households, but the financial support in place really is the worst of all worlds. a levels and gcses and england will go ahead next year, but most will be delayed by three weeks.
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in the light of today's press conference and that statement by the prime minister of the new tiered system, at the time now for your questions answered. and for your question answered, we are joined and for your question answered, we arejoined by doctor and for your question answered, we are joined by doctor chris smith, and for your question answered, we arejoined by doctor chris smith, a virologist at the university of cambridge. chris, thank you for joining us. we've got a load to get through. look at all from one from margaret. my husband of 50 years passed away sadly in april. i'm now ina passed away sadly in april. i'm now in a support bubble with my daughter and family making bubble five. can we meet up on doors —— indoors on tier two with yellow this includes
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the abolition of support bubbles, so i think the abolition of support bubbles, so ithink in the abolition of support bubbles, so i think in tier two, the high risk category, no, that would be u nfortu nately off category, no, that would be unfortunately off the table. she's a widow now, she would be in a more vulnerable age group. all the more reason to take care. unfortunately, it feels very harsh, but people in this position to get that extra help are going to have to face losing that if they're in the high risk category. in other words, tier two. i think that would come off the table, unfortunately. this will probably answer chris's question as well. can we visit grandparents if well. can we visit grandparents if we are within a group of six orjust meet outside as they are elderly or vulnerable? he didn't say actually where he would be, but if they are in tier1, without be different from tier two? yes. tier1 applies to the
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whole country at the moment, where there are not currently additional local rules. if you are in an area at the moment that is not defined as one of those high—risk areas, then it's one of those high—risk areas, then its business as usual. you can meet indoors but the rule of six would apply, and that means you should have more than six people, notjust six people. you have to make sure there are total who gets together. that would otherwise be ok. there are total who gets together. that would otherwise be 0k.m there are total who gets together. that would otherwise be ok. it does sound increasingly complicated. gloria works as a chef. cheshire has been included in tier two, mixing is allowed indoors. the thing i don't understand is how come a member of staff allowed to mix with other ten to 15 people from different households during the shift, and as a customer i am not? households during the shift, and as a customeri am not? there are households during the shift, and as a customer i am not? there are a couple of things to think about
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here. number one is as an employee ora here. number one is as an employee or a chef who owns the restaurant, we have an obligation to staff to make sure the workplace is covid —safe make sure the workplace is covid—safe or cove care. theoretically, the risk in the worst case theoretically, the risk in the worst case “— theoretically, the risk in the worst case —— workplace has been minimised. the second thing is in terms of the numbers game, if you're working with a group of people, you're consistently meeting with a group of people working with them, and therefore the risk doesn't grow beyond big contact between that group of people. customers on the other hand could come and go and meet in large groups, six different households together, and they can meet with different households every day of the week. so therefore, on the numbers basis, you're at much higher risk if you're a customer than a member of staff working in a covid—secure workplace than a member of staff working in a covid—secu re workplace and consistently working with the same group of people. in terms of how many customers there are versus how many customers there are versus how many workers there are, you can see immediately that the risk is for the
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customers because there are far more of those than there are the people who are running the outlet. those customers will presumably be putting information into their apps on the phone, and this question from 0ksana saying "why does the new system not match the levels on the nhs app? " they applied to the local area and therefore, theirjudgement in terms of the interventions that are necessary to keep things under control in the area. the risk reported by the app is using probably different data and is looking at your personal chances or your personal risk and that geography of catching coronavirus. they're slightly different things. they're slightly different things. the risk of catching it is not the same as the risk posed by the level of coronavirus activity in your particular geography. i think that's why there's that disparity. roger is asking a question that occurred to me when i was listening to the statement by the prime minister. "after the pm statement, iain duncan
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smith asked about covid antivirals. what are these antivirals?" the antivirals we have include remdesivir. this is the drug made by gilead. it was originally made to treat the a bola outbreak. it wasn't so successful against ebola but there is now preview evidence that remdesivir can shorten the time a person feels poorly. not much data on whether or not it makes a difference between life and death for the most severely affected people, but remdesivir is one drug donald trump used. i don't know whether we can class dexamethasone, but it is being used in the context of people who are severely unwell with coronavirus and it can have a substantial impact on mortality. there also new antibody therapies, again, donald trump received one
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last week. these are antibodies that are tailor—made to fight coronavirus. i think they would probably be considered as antiviral drugs as well. i think we've only got time for one more, i'm afraid. these are the people who have been most badly affected over the last six or seven months. what happens about the vulnerable and those who shield? at the moment, the guidance hasn't changed for shoulders because across vast parts of the country, levels remain low —— for shoulders. therefore, the guidance to what you are doing stays the same. if you are ina are doing stays the same. if you are in a high—risk area, tier two earth tier three, automatically you will have change her behaviour about mixing in —— indoors. so you would be partly predicted by that, and i think if i were in one of those geographies and i was a person who
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previously had been shielding, i'd be thinking about perhaps reinstating my shielding behaviour. in order to reinstating my shielding behaviour. in orderto minimise reinstating my shielding behaviour. in order to minimise the trance of —— chance of infecting someone. in order to minimise the trance of -- chance of infecting someone. as always, thank you very much for helping us with your questions answered. as cova cases continue to rise across merseyside, there is a warning from the local public health director that hospital omissions could reach the same numbers as the peak of the pandemic within ten days. shirley went through it all in march and april, with the surge in patients going into intensive care, and now she feels it's happening again. this is really real, it really is. it frightens me, we all have
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to look after ourselves, to look after our families and to look after the wider community. please take heed of what the government guidelines are. the hospital is serving a merseyside community with one of the highest infection rates in the uk and they invited us in today to see just what it means for frontline healthcare. bbc news is donating some personal protective equipment to the hospital. there are now nine covid patient here in intensive care, double the number a week ago. a few weeks before, it was just one. that just shows how fast things are escalating, and the impact on the hospital. we've had a really challenging weekend, so we know that we're coming out of the weekend with a very busy organisation. at a gold command meeting, the hospital's senior management are told there has been a jump in covid patient numbers. we've got 90 current positive impatients, we've had 13 new positive patients in the last 24 hours. for frontline staff like nadine, there is concern at how fast events
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are moving and the likely pressures they will bring. we put our feelings to the back of our minds from the last wave, because it was so stressful, and now that we've got this second wave, the anxiety has definitely come back within the staff and within the trust. are you feeling 0k about the surgery today... ? the hospital is pressing on with non—covid care. melissa has come in for a routine operation. herjoints are easily dislocated because of her condition. it was postponed back in march. now they've called me back in, i am so relieved, even my carers are. they're just so relieved that it can finally get done, and hopefully i can get some comfort and relief from it. we are ready to care and we will protect you and keep you safe... the medical director says they're doing all they can for patients but it is getting more difficult by the day. these last couple of weeks have felt at least as worrying as a medical leader, as it did in the first wave, and in many ways, even more
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worrying, because i don't have the room to manoeuvre within the hospital, that is already full, and full of really deserving patients. how close are you two having to cancel routine surgery and procedures because of covid cases? we are really close. right now, i've got every operating theatre running. but we risk having to take some of that down. back in intensive care, grace is ready to move out. she wants to warn others about the reality of covid—19. be fearful of it, make sure that you do the right guidelines, keep keeping yourself safe. a message which nhs staff want the public to grasp, as they face the bleak consequences of rising virus infections. hugh pym, bbc news, at whiston hospital, on merseyside.
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pubs and bars will remain open but people from different households are now banned from being able to meet how is this going to impact you?” think the impact is already felt a few weeks ago once we can see the restrictions come in. trade falling up restrictions come in. trade falling up to 70% in some areas. so i think obviously, releasing a statement today, it wasn't anything we already kinda didn't know was coming. the still haven't been guidelines still haven't been produced until tomorrow, which i think hasjust shown produced until tomorrow, which i think has just shown a lack of strategy. just talk me through that. did you use the furlough scheme and will the new scheme, thejob protection, job support scheme, will you use that as well? that's the
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question. most of our staff are all furlough and this is half the problem. the other scheme doesn't come into fruition until november the 1st, however, it's only two thirds of the wages rather than 80%, which is not going to cover most people's bills. as you know, mortgage payments are now finished, people's bills will be 100%. anxiety for people now, people are just worried about a catastrophic winter. rishi sunak talked about one—off payments as well, which would continue not as a loan. these are gifts from the government, will that help? to be honest, it might help
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more for places that might be better being close with support, but it's leaving the restaurant currently not knowing the guidance so they are being told they can stay open. however, no one is sure of what these restrictions are going to entail until tomorrow. is that something that you will look into? that would keep you open. we never open any of our bars in the bars in our open any of our bars in the bars in u open any of our bars in the bars in ourgroup of remain open any of our bars in the bars in our group of remain close since march. looking at these restrictions, they will stay close for another six months. as you can imagine, it's externally difficult. can you physically carry on? carry on with what we have. we are 50%
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open, so coffee shops and markets will continue by the look of it. however, once you tell households they cannot mix and things like that, that it becomes extremely difficult to operate in break even, which is catastrophic across the board. ido which is catastrophic across the board. i do think the government need to start looking at hospitality. it can be a solution rather than a problem, because at the end of the day, the restrictions put in place are counterproductive and sending people to do things in unaudited environments, which will cause issues. so consultation needs to be the key, which then passes on into the public domain. we wish you
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the best of luck, matt farrell. thanks forjoining us. we can now talk to doctor kate yates from the university of bath and part of the independent sage group —— keith the eighth. i'm a little bit surprised there are three tiers. you've got these medium, high and very high tiers. the highest level being sort of no mixing outdoors and pubs being closed and bars being close. but if you listen to chris whitty, he thinks... he's not confident the baseline tier three is going to be enough to get on top of the virus. i'm also surprised that actually, very little has changed. liverpool has certainly gone into a slightly higher tier of restrictions than a couple other areas, but actually the virus is growing everywhere across the country. for most areas of the country, nothing is changing. what
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are the figures showing the demographics of those people who are suffering from covid at the moment? does not changing?” suffering from covid at the moment? does not changing? i think we seen today in the press conferences that what starts off with younger people getting the disease ends up with it bleeding through into older people. 0ften bleeding through into older people. often people argue it'sjust bleeding through into older people. often people argue it's just young people, and they have limited health outcomes. it's not too much of a problem for them or they're actually... but of course young people mix with other people in different generations. and we're starting to see that in the hospital admission data at the moment. so what should the government should have announced ? what should the government should have announced? i there are think a range of different options. u nfortu nately, range of different options. unfortunately, it was left quite late to do things. there is this
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dichotomy that people often put forward about whether it is lockdowns or the economy, but actually shouldn't be in a situation where we're having to choose. at the same time having a set... is that true? that's not the case in marseille or paris. no, absolutely, but if you look at germany, you see that they have test traits and isolate systems that allow them to keep on top of cases. i don't think anywhere couldn't quite achieve that, but having an economy in the way that we don't at the moment. those of the things we need to do. we need to make sure the test, trace and isolate contact as many people as possible, the test come back within the 24 hours promised, rather than at the moment, just 24% of those coming back at the moment. so we really need to fix those as well as providing support for people who
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are isolating. at the moment, people are isolating. at the moment, people are having to make difficult choices about whether they isolate or whether they go to work. no one want to infect their colleagues, but no one wants to go hungry either. the government needs to step down my provide support for these people. there has been a change of direction from the government in terms of more localised texting and giving more localised texting and giving more localised test and trace. are you saying that the right thing to do? but just too late? saying that the right thing to do? butjust too late? the clarity over the three system, make it clear for what's happening. it's a good step, but they are too late. they are too little too late, because cases arising in many regions across the country, but actually nothings been done. i suspect will be hearing...
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thank you very much indeed. most gc ses will go ahead and england next summer. but they'll be delayed by three weeks. the education secretary gavin williamson says the additional time should allow pupils many of whom have missed months of schooling since the pandemic a chance to catch up. 0ur education editor bra nwen jeffreys explains. these numbers here... no wonder they're concentrating. next year it's their turn for a—levels. after seeing this summer's results chaos, these sixth formers in norwich told me they're happy for exams to go ahead. i just want that sense of closure. like, i worked so, so hard over lockdown and i really struggled to learn the content online but i did it anyway. everything's been building up to the moment of opening the results in summer 2021, and i think not to have that moment after sitting an exam would be quite a disappointment after two years of hard work that we've put in. there's always that end goal, isn't there, with exams? like it's the motivation to get there and get the grades you need
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to get to university. and if that's taken away, it's almost like what's the point? for a—level and btec students, a bit of extra time. gcses will also be three weeks later, but no further reduction in what they have to cover. so is this the best way to give them grades? i think exams are the fairest way of testing what children know. some in charge of schools say it's about catching up now. i think we mustn't underestimate students' motivation to get through — particularly at a—level, in this case, and how hard they work and how much they want it and how motivated they are, and the same for families and the same for teachers. pushing next summer's exams back by a few weeks will give schools and colleges a little bit of extra time, but not everyone's convinced that it will be enough to make up for all the disruption that's already happened. in places like bolton, cases are higher.
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some teenagers learning online, not in class. what happens if their exams are disrupted ? the government says there will be a plan b before christmas. disruption is happening now. you know, already we're about five to six weeks into the school year, and some students have had five to six weeks of provision and other students might have only received a couple of weeks of provision. it's different in scotland. exams for highers will go ahead. national 55 replaced by coursework and teacher grades. northern ireland plans exams too. but across the uk, fears of a winter of disruption ahead. branwen jeffreys, bbc news. most gcs fees will go ahead and england next summer. that is it will go ahead and england next summer. that is it for me. join at 10.30 if you can forward the papers. we will see what they've made of the
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3—tiered announcements. brighter skies following from the west and i more in the way of dry and fairly bright weather through the rest of this week. it is going to stay on the chilly side. through the rest of the evening and tonight, we see outbreaks of rain pushing across against eastern england. returning to parts of eastern scotland through the night as well. 2 degrees in glasgow, a little bit chilly for southwest scotland and parts of northern england. showers will post southwards to the southwest of england during tomorrow. outbreaks of rain continued to affect parts of eastern england, northern england, north wales through the afternoon. drying up and brightening up from the north across scotland and northern ireland what year it will be particularly windy going to have highs of 14 degrees. things look fairly bright but with quite a lot of cloud and it will stay rather chilly.
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