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hello, i'm ros atkins, this is outside source. the uk records a big increase in cases of coronavirus and deaths. this as it emerged ministers did not follow their scientists‘ advice on the pandemic. documents show the experts wanted much tougher restrictions three weeks ago, a "circuit breaker" they called it. the opposition are calling for that now. the government has not got a credible plan to slow infections. it has lost control of the virus. and it is no longer following the scientific advice. amy coney barrett, president trump's
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choice for the next supreme court supreme courtjustice, is facing questions from senators at her confirmation hearing. but she won't be drawn on hot topics like abortion. he would be comforting to you to have an answer but i cannot express views on a case or pre—commit to approaching a case in any way. you can see the committee continuing its work in this process will go on through the week. the un says as many as 35,000 afghans have been displaced in heavy fighting between government forces and the tele— band. —— taliban. let's begin with more worrying figures for the uk. there has been a sharp rise
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in the number of people reported to have died from covid—i9. 143 deaths have been recorded today, compared with 50 yesterday. that figure is for anyone who dies within 28 days of a positive test. it takes the total number of people who have died from covid—i9 to over 43,000. the number of new positive cases is also up, with over 17,000 new cases being registered today. to help explain these figures, here is our bbc medical editor. there is a lag in reporting death at the weekend but i have to tell you the number of deaths related to covid—i9 are civilly going to keep rising now because they are built into the system. these are people who got infected several weeks ago and we know the epidemic is doubling every 7-14 know the epidemic is doubling every 7—14 days. the question is how high will they go. back in early april, there were up to 1000 deaths a day. we are not seeing deaths arising anything like the speed they were back at the end of march but we face a long winter ahead. the average age of those who die with covid—19
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is 82. the average age of people going into intensive care is 60 and the concern is if hospitals keep filling up concern is if hospitals keep filling up with covid patients, that will have a knock on effect on non—covid care. but all the restrictions that are being taken have a damaging effect on the economy, on mental health and an impact on society which has to be factored in. there are only hard choices ahead. minutes after these numbers were released, the leader of the uk's opposition party, sir keir starmer, called for a new strategy in fighting coronavirus. there is a longer time to give this prime minister the benefit of the doubt. the government's plan simply is not working. another course is needed. that's why i'm calling for a 2-3 needed. that's why i'm calling for a 2—3 week circuit break in england. in line with sage's recommendation. a temporary set of clear and effective restrictions designed to get the art rate down. and reverse
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the trend of infections and hospital admissions. let's hear from nick early. for months in this pandemic we did hear the parties working together broadly to try and come up with a coherent plan to tackle the virus. this is a big moment because you now have a party that is going to explicitly argue for another many lockdown, for that circuit breaker i did which would see significant restrictions on things like hospitality, pubs, restaurants, bars closed would mean people are urged to work from home and about on household mixing apart from the support bubbles. it would be a big move. and it matters because we know that some of the scientific community are calling for that. we've seen those sage vapors from la st we've seen those sage vapors from last month was suggested that that was the best way to start bricking the transmission of the virus. since in the numberof the transmission of the virus. since in the number of cases, the number of deaths and people and
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hospital in england has risen quite dramatically. clearly labour now think that that needs some pretty radical action. the circuit breaker the labour party are calling for was recommended by the uk's top scientific advisers at a meeting on the 21st of september. but communities secretary robert jenrick has insisted the government did take some action at the time. we did take robust action at that time. maybe you remember, that's when we clarified the rule of six, that's when we brought in for example the 10pm curfew for pubs and restaurants, which i've discussed on this programme many times. so, we did take action then, but we've reviewed that and other evidence and that has contributed to the decision that the prime minister made and announced yesterday. let's just recap what the government is introducing, a tiered system of covid restrictions for england that will go into effect on wednesday. most of england will be put on the medium level, where the rule of six and 10pm hospitality curfew will apply. some areas will be put on the high level, which means there'll be no household mixing indoors, but the rule of six applies outdoors.
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the most severe level is very high. that means no mixing of households anywhere. pubs and bars will close unless they provide a substanial meal. so far, only the liverpool city region is being put on this highest tier. that new system was debated in parliament today. here's the uk health secretary. i must report to the house that the number of cases of coronavirus has quadrupled in the last three weeks. there are now more people in hospital with coronavirus than there were on the 23rd of march. and in the last four weeks, hospitals in the north west and north east of england have seen a sevenfold increase in the number of covid patients in intensive care. in these worst affected areas, the virus is spreading just as quickly in older age groups, not just amongst younger adults. the north of england is currently where the greatest number of new cases are being identified in the uk. the city of liverpool
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is of particular concern. the financial times reported 95% of intensive care beds in the city's main hospitals are already full. it goes on to quote a senior doctor saying there are currently only two beds available out of 60 for patients who don't have covid—19 but need a ventilator, adding there are plenty of ventilators but there aren't enough beds. liverpool is now firmly at the centre of the battle with a virus. here is our health editor. liverpool tourism is still going for 110w liverpool tourism is still going for now but the city is setting up to the most restriction of people in england. so how has a decision been reached and why not manchester and other centres as well? one of the keyissues other centres as well? one of the key issues of semi people are picking up the virus. the number of daily cases per 100,000 population, here is what has been happening in liverpool since mid—september, the seven—day rolling average. and here is what has been happening in manchester, slightly rising
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and then with a bit of a downward trend the last week. the age of the virus is important as the older are more likely to get seriously ill. liverpool puffin demographics don't help. widespread immunity transition of the virus here liverpool... the city council spokesman success with they are considering. the data is different and is moving up into the older population. manchester possibly is still very much in the younger population so consequently we are seeing sicker people who need much more medical intervention here in liverpool. government officials have published this chart showing average covid—19 patient numbers in major hospital trusts in liverpool and manchester going back to the end of march. it just and manchester going back to the end of march. itjust shows how rapidly those numbers have gone up in the last few weeks in liverpool. tighter restrictions are intended to protect the vulnerable and ease pressure on hospitals. because they damage
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people's health and other ways, raising anxiety levels and leaving some feeling isolated. it's kind of that roller coaster effect again. sean lost his job during that lockdown and for the time very stressful. easing of restrictions and a new job stressful. easing of restrictions and a newjob has helped but now he is worried again. i have that anxiety can be back again and it's almost like you up the hill and you come down the hill and you go up and you come down and you were just thinking what ever is next, it needs to go on for a very long time and is going to destroy a lot of people. it really is, especially in our area in merseyside. these are difficult and complexjudgements. decisions merseyside. these are difficult and complex judgements. decisions on restrictions are partly driven by what local communities will support. nobody can yet be sure of the right remedy. the uk's covid—19 track and trace app has been sending confusing alerts that suggest exposure to coronavirus and then disappear. the app has now been updated to fix the problem,
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which users described as scary and confusing. rory cellan—jones has been looking into it. something like 16 million people across england and wales have downloaded the nhs covid—19 app since its launch in late september, and that's not bad. but there's a problem. what are being called phantom messages. they pop up as notifications saying things like possible covid—19 exposure. somebody near you reported having covid—19. but you tap on them, they disappear. when you look in the app, there's nothing to tell you any more, very confusing. they come actually not from the app itself, but from the underlying applegoogle framework which powers this and other similar apps around the world. now there's an update which sort of deals with it. you get the first message, but then you get another one saying covid—19 exposure check complete. don't worry, we've assessed your risk and there's no need to take action at this time. well, the app team is working on further developments which should deal with the problem eventually,
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but that will need a change in the whole googleapple framework, which is apparently coming soon. to washington now. president donald trump's choice for the next supreme courtjudge has been facing questions from senators. this is the senatejudiciary committee right now. senator amy klobuchar asking about the supreme court and postal voting. yesterday three donald trump appointed judges came in and reverse that sin and to one ballot box for people to drop their balance off an accounting of 4.6 million people. in tennessee, republicans have tried to prevent drop boxes for balance and we know because we have had the secretary of state as one of our witnesses in a hearing and they have argued that covid—19 is not a valid excuse argued that covid—19 is not a valid excuse to vote by mail. in north carolina the supreme court struck down a core component of the voting rights act. what happened? states
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like north you want to pass laws that were so egregious to make it harder to vote that the fourth circuit struck down their law and noted that it targeted african—americans noted that it targeted african—america ns with almost surgical precision. so that is what the stakes are and that is why not having justice ginsburg on the court right now is so frightening to so many americans out there. and that is why we are asking you these questions about voting. so let me turn to another... that is senator klobuchar making a statement as much as asking a question. you can see the justice barrett listening intently and will no doubt respond ina intently and will no doubt respond in a short time. we will keep you across all that. now, remember president trump nominated judge barrett after the death of ruth bader ginsberg. she was on the liberal side of the court. if ms barrett replaces her, that would give the court a strong conservative majority of 6—3. and conservative americans are keen on her because of her record
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on issues such as abortion, gay marriage and gun rights. but senators weren't getting many detailed answers from her today on her beliefs on those issues. for example, here's democrat dianne feinstine. it's distressing not to get a straight answer, so let me try again. do you agree withjustice scalia's view that roe was wrongly decided? senator, i completely understand why you are asking the question, but again i can't precommit or say, yes, i'm going in with some agenda because i'm not. i don't have any agenda, i have no agenda to try to overrule cases. i have an agenda to stick to the rule of law and decide cases as they come. so, that wasjudge barrett's answer on abortion, or more specifically the 1973 supreme court case that gave american women the right to choose to have one. it still remains a key election issue for many voters, and many republican lawmakers would like to see if overturned.
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democrats are sceptical of these a nswe i’s democrats are sceptical of these answers and here is a tweet by elizabeth warren. it still remains a key election issue for many voters, and many republican lawmakers would like to see if overturned. but public opinion is in favour of abortion. this graph is from pew research. it shows 61% of americans think abortion should be legal in all or most cases. and here's one of her answers on the affordable care act, also known as 0bamacare, which is heading to the supreme court shortly after the election in november. any issue that would arise under the affordable care act or any other statute should be determined by the law, by looking by looking at the text of the statute, by looking at precedent. the same way that it
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would for anyone. and if there were policy differences or policy consequences, those are for this body. for the court, it's really a question of adhering to the law and going where the law leads and leaving the policy decisions up to you. another issue playing on the minds of democrats is what might happen if the result of next month's election ended up in the supreme court. now, remember this has happened before in 2000. here's her views on that. it would be a complete violation of the independence of the judiciary for anyone to put a justice on the court as a means of obtaining a particular result. and that's why, as i was mentioning i think to senator grassley, that the questionnaire that i filled out for this committee makes clear that i have made no pre—commitments to anyone about how i would decide a case. that's out of respect for article iii and its designation of the judiciary as a coequal and independent branch of government.
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laura trevelyan is in washington. if the democrats are hoping to knock her off her stride they don't seem to have managed it. well, this is pretty much the patent. she is the third conservative justice that president trump has put forward for the supreme court in his time in office. and the previous two followed exactly the same playbook. in fact the playbook goes all the way back to ruth bader ginsburg, whose seat amy coney barrett would ta ke whose seat amy coney barrett would take on the supreme court. in her hearing in 93, ruth peter ginsburg said she would not talk about how she could rule on a potential case. she said no hence, no forecast, coming up reviews. and actually amy coney barrett quoted her today so there you have it come up the check make them a very frustrating to democrats, they cant lay a finger on herand democrats, they cant lay a finger on her and don't have the votes to stop us her and don't have the votes to stop us all they can do really is to try to draw attention to the rulings which they believe she would cast pivotal votes on, namely the
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afforda ble pivotal votes on, namely the affordable care act, that is health insurance for millions of americans who don't have that much money. abortion and also same—sex marriage. will the senators be calling witnesses to talk about their interactions with amy coney barrett? we heard yesterday from amy coney barrett's law professor at notre dame university who spoke to the quality of her as a legal scholar and this is what you have republicans emphasising because they really wa nt republicans emphasising because they really want to talk about the issues here which are hot button, they don't want to talk about abortion or the idea that they could be a contested election that would come before the supreme court so they are talking about amy coney barrett's impeccable legal credentials. the fa ct impeccable legal credentials. the fact she's a mother of seven, that she has two adopted children including she also has a child with down syndrome so she is really summing up idea of the capable professional woman. rebelled against hope in fact she will help them close the gender gap. joe biden seems to have a big lead with women in polling so by confirming her to
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the court, the publicans are hoping to change the subject and get away from coronavirus and also not talk about all of these problematic cases that she could rule on if democrats keep bringing it back to the key things they believe could come up in front of the court. that is one thing i want to ask you about and here is a second. the supreme court is also in the news notice because of the hearings but also because republicans repeatedly raise the possibility of a joe biden presidency seeking to an change a number of justices on the presidency seeking to an change a number ofjustices on the supreme court. you will hear this referred to as court packing. and as we discussed the confirmation of amy coney barrett would mean a 6—3 majority for conservatives but congress has the power to add or remove seats from the court though it has not done so since the 1860s. joe biden was asked again about this today. i'm not a fan of court packing, but i don't want to get off on that whole issue. i want to keep focused.
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the president would love nothing better than to fight about whether or not i would in fact at the court or not pack the court, etc. president trump, meanwhile, has returned to the campaign trail less than two weeks after annoucing he'd tested positive for the coronavirus. here's what he had to say about amy coney barrett at a rally in florida. judge barrett, a brilliant scholar who will defend our laws, our rights, our freedom in our constitution like very few people would have the capability of doing. and president trump will be heading to the battle ground state of pennsylvania for another rally later today. laura trevelyan again in washington. he seems very keen to get back on the campaign trail. he's always co mforta ble the campaign trail. he's always comfortable there. actually. he missed the second debate which was due this week but it seems he will be there for the third next week in tennessee. and this is a very important issue for him, the nomination of amy coney barrett to the supreme court because it enables him to say that he has achieved something concrete which is hugely important to his base, namely nominating a conservative justice to the supreme court who will be a pivotal vote on abortion should that
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come up. so, yes, he's very enthusiastic as you saw there. he's clearly feeling better and he is dying to get out there and be up against joe dying to get out there and be up againstjoe biden dying to get out there and be up against joe biden in dying to get out there and be up againstjoe biden in about dying to get out there and be up against joe biden in about ten dying to get out there and be up againstjoe biden in about ten days' time. and just quickly come it will joe biden be holding equivalent relics of the one that we saw yesterday. not equivalent in the one they will be social distancing in any event that joe biden does. nothing really sums up the difference between the two candidates as much as their approach to coronavirus. the president who has had it is nonetheless now bouncing around without a mask at these rallies were people are not socially distanced. joe biden on the other hand is very cautious. polling suggests that more americans take the view of a joe biden, that the virus is something you need to be very careful and cautious about. with the president is making on frustration, on fatigue with quarantine as being something that will shore up some of his support in these closing weeks of the campaign. i was good to have you. thank you
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very much indeed. in afghanistan the us military has carried out air strikes against a tele— man. this is a result of clashes between the tele— band and government forces. already have three days of fighting with the taliban forces. the un says as many as 35,000 may have been displaced. also bear in mind a month ago the taliban began negotiations with the government. those talks we re with the government. those talks were a decent way away and while it just him happening is in and of itself important, they have failed to make a breakthrough so far. here isa to make a breakthrough so far. here is a lead member of the government's negotiating team speaking to the bbc. the burden of this war is so heavy on our people. and we want to end it yesterday. the sense of urgency is felt
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not only among our members of negotiation team but also across the country. but that urgency shall make us also to be careful not to rush things through that will undermine a sustainable peace. so the balance between urgency, a sense of urgency and rushing through must be thought carefully. the fact the us continues to be militarily involved in afghanistan is remarkable. this all began years ago in the aftermath of the 9/11 attacks on new york and washington in 2001. the al-qaeda leader of some of bin laden was identified as the man responsible and was in afghanistan under protection of the taliban who governed there. when they refused to hand him over, this happened. that's the us launching multiple attacks. 0ther the us launching multiple attacks. other countries joined its efforts
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and the taliban was removed from power. but it was not eradicated, farfrom it, the taliban continued his resistance from the end right until now and america remains militarily entangled despite president trump ozment desire for america to get out. the fact the us had announced it would reduce its troops from 5000 to 2500 by early next year. that was a plan until president trump surprising as he was last week by tweeting we should have the small remaining number of our brave men and women serving in afghanistan home by christmas. then a senior us officials have since denied this and the comments were criticised for weakening the afghan government possible negotiating position. either way there is concern america will depart at some point and at that point may be before there is a between the government and the taliban. we will see how the election goes as well. joe biden may have a different plan. in the meantime, here is the bbc in kabul on the escalating fighting.
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this is not what afghans expected when news came that the first afghan peace talks were getting under way a month ago. now there is a major taliban offensive in southern afghanistan and a growing humanitarian crisis. afghan government forces have had to call him another round of us air strikes to bolster their forces as they continue to try to push the attacking taliban back on what is a third day of heavy fighting around the city. humanitarian impact continues to grow by the day. the un has confirmed to us that some 35,000 afghans are now on the run. 0ne family told us that they fled in haste with only the clothes that they wore, not knowing where they would find a safe place to sleep. as one man put it, if we don't die in this war, we are going to die of hunger. and it's all raising questions about that peace process so far away in the gulf
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state of qatar. the government's chief spokesperson at the negotiations told abc that this intense violence was raising questions about the taliban's commitment to the peace talks. he was putting pressure he said on the government possible negotiating team and whether or not they would be able to continue with they would be able to continue with the process. many thanks. here's a story getting a lot of attention on covid—19, cristiano ronaldo have such a positive or covid—19. here is andy from bbc sport. this news coming out of the portuguese football federation. rinaldo was pa rt football federation. rinaldo was part of the portugal squad that was due to face sweden in eight nations league match tomorrow night with the federation have announced in the last hour or so that he will now missed a game because he has tested positive for coronavirus. they said the 35—year—old striker is doing
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well, has no symptoms and is in isolation. and following the positive task and they said that all the rest of the portuguese squad we re the rest of the portuguese squad were tested once again for coronavirus earlier on today and all of their tests came back negative. it was on about covid—19 in europe ina it was on about covid—19 in europe in a couple of hello, good evening. today was a pretty cool day for just about all of us but in terms of the look of the weather, there were some quite big variations. this was the scene in hastings through the afternoon. grey, gloomy conditions with some outbreaks of rain. brighter skies for this weather watcher in somerset, although there are some big shower clouds in the background. so, we've had some wet weather, some dry weather. i think over the next few days, we're going to see increasing amounts of dry weather. still some showers to contend with through the night into the early hours of wednesday.
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some showery rain across parts of southern and south—eastern scotland. if you showers down towards the south, maybe into northern ireland as well. 5—8 degrees covers it for most of us, but some spots in the far north of scotland will get very close to freezing. so, into tomorrow, we've got high pressure to the north, low pressure to the south. that's feeding an easterly or north—easterly wind across the british isles. a pretty brisk breeze actually which will make it feel rather chilly. showery rain to start off with a southern scotland, also maybe some of that clipping into northern ireland. and then through the day, we see some further showers marching in from the north sea across eastern england and the midlands and perhaps getting into parts of east wales through the day as well. but with the showers there will be some spells of sunshine. quite windy for most
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of us, a bit windier than it was today across the south. it will not be quite as windy as it was today in the north. and those differences, well, if anything a little bit higher than they have been today. but i think the strength of the wind will still feel rather cool. and then into thursday, it's another cool day, quite cloudy i think. the wind coming in from the north sea picking up a lot of cloud. maybe the odd spot of rain but most places dry. the best of the sunshine in the west but a very cool field to the weather. and a similar story for friday. large slabs of cloud in the sky. the thickest of that producing the odd light shower. some brighter spells here and there but those temperatures are struggling a little bit between 11—13 degrees. and then as we head into the weekend, well, high is broadly speaking going to be in charge. it looks as if this high willjust be strong enough to fend off the advances of this deep low which will be spending down to the south—west. so as far as the weekend itself is concerned, it's looking dry for the most part but rather cloudy and rather chilly. but it's big changes next week. that low pressure will win out, it will turn wet and windy but also milder.
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hello and welcome to outside source. i waited the story is the uk recorded a big increase in cases of coronavirus. this is as it's a ministers did not follow the scientist advice on the pandemic and be sure the experts wanted much tougher restrictions three weeks ago. a circuit breaker as they call it and the opposition is demanding just that. that government has not put a credible plan to pseudo— infections. it has lost control of the virus and it is no longer following scientific advice. the
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netherlands with the latest country to tighten coronavirus restrictions asa to tighten coronavirus restrictions as a second wave sweeps through europe. and president trump's choice for the next supreme courtjudge was pleased by senators today but refused to be drawn on a number of controversial topics like abortion. it would be comforting to you to have an answer but i cannot reconnect to a pushing a case any particular way. these are pictures from the hearing where the senate has been asked questions. the rent says 35,000 afghans may have been displaced and heavy fighting between the taliban and government forces. let us look in detail at covid—19 in europe. the infection rate is rising and governments are using a range
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of tactics to try and control the violence. it is beginning the netherlands. 0ne violence. it is beginning the netherlands. one of the worst hit countries that have average daily infections of dublin two weeks to more than 6000. this shows the number of new and infections coming up number of new and infections coming up the prime minister has just announced a partial lockdown with all bars, cafes and restaurants to close. he says it hurts but it's the only way. we have to be stricter. let us speak to anna life to us from the hate and it's quite development will stop when you look at the figures and feed them netherlands heading off the charts with the infection rate, the announcement has just been made and as you can see people... it's quite packed here this evening. there are
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also protesters outside who are objecting to these new rules and its really the hospitality industry that's being targeted. so bars and restau ra nts being targeted. so bars and restaurants from wednesday at 10pm local time will be closed and all shops will be banned from selling alcohol after 8pm local time. that's pa rt alcohol after 8pm local time. that's part of the new measures that the plaintiff that talked about education he said education is too important in public transport they will only use it for essential journeys and people are being asked to work from home where possible and the rate here in the netherlands now among the worst in europe so the prime minister had little choice to introduce the new restrictions and the health minister said what they will do is look at the measures for two weeks but if after a fortnight
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their situation has not improved then there is a chance for a full lockdown will go back in. thank you. i lockdown will go back in. thank you. , bars, restaurants being closed in the netherlands with the possibility ofa the netherlands with the possibility of a full lockdown if the measures do not work. a shift from the netherlands to the czech republic. a country with the highest rate of infection in europe when you factor in population. by midnight this evening it's imposing a state of emergency and that means checking schools and bars and clubs and restricting restaurants to deliveries and take public consumption of alcohol will also be banned. this graph shows the number of new cases over the last month and you can compare that to germany next door whose population is eight times larger and the czech republic rate is higher. next to a pity, it was the first european country to be hit really ha rd in the first european country to be hit really hard in the spring recording more than 5000 new cases in a single bay last week that was for the first
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time since march. the government has drafted a decree which will banned private parties and restrict the number of people attending weddings and funerals. no more than ten guests will be allowed at events and 15 funerals. in poland, the prime minister self isolating have to come into co nta ct minister self isolating have to come into contact with someone who tested positive and we also have pictures from saturday when they were protesting in the marsala of a new restrictions that make it mandatory to wear facemasks restrictions that make it mandatory to wearfacemasks in public restrictions that make it mandatory to wear facemasks in public spaces. this is why the government is arguing because measures are necessary. poland requited a new record daily infection rate and you can see the increase in the daily number of cases over the last four weeks. and this is a similarfigure, ba byca kes big progress weeks. and this is a similarfigure, babycakes big progress by france of the last month. some hospitals we know are under pressure and we are expecting further measures to be put out by president lenjohnson on wednesday but the prime minister has ordered people to limit how often they have gatherings in their homes. it is what he said. ——
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here is what he said. translation: we are in a dish —— difficult situation not only in france the second wave is here. i call for all of us to mow but face the second wave. there can be no more sucking. as you have seen a lot of restrictions are focused on large gatherings and events and points to one important factor in this pandemic. the article analysing what it cause an overlooked variable is the key to the pandemic. it is talking about the role of super spreaders. individuals who transmit the virus to a large number of people. it's as an early run of bad luck with a few super spreading events or clusters can produce different outcomes even for otherwise similar countries. and there are examples of this. one professional football game in nylon and a church in south korea and a choir practice in the us where 52 of the 61 attendees became infected. and it's suggested that as few of ten to 20% of infected people may be
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responsible for as much as 80 to 90% of infections and in fact many people who have the virus hardly transmit it at all. this is one of such taking a look at this. it found mimicking social and places of worship and parties, they are likely been at the far greater benefit from closing schools and other papers they repeated contacts occur among small social circles. professor is probably dust from copenhagen. we appreciate you making time for us. given everything that i had just said, do you think these new restrictions that they are seeing in europe are the best tactic at this stage? maximum social activity is goods, you should limit gatherings that is true. you should also personally you should not chop
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around too much with too many different people. that will help because exactly as you were saying we kind of know that around 80% of us we kind of know that around 80% of us when we get the disease, we don't even infect our wives so it's a relatively little fraction and they doa relatively little fraction and they do a lot and we need to limit how much they do so they don't meet more than ten people written on the infected ten people and that is much better than if they go to bars and in fact ten people at each bar and thenit in fact ten people at each bar and then it becomes a lot of people. the next not still need to try and identify these super spreaders? how do you do that? that is complicated because you will know about it afterwards. that is where contact tracing comes in and you cannot really do anything about this super spreader when they have done this because they are
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already probably cured at that point because everything is concentrated somehow looking into the events that happen. as you know there has been a good amount of attention on track and trace and the problems that the uk has had with it. which countries do you think you use contact tracing the most effectively?” you think you use contact tracing the most effectively? i did not know. we don't do it very well in denmark. it, we managed quite well in denmark but it does not work because of kind of legal things. i think it is in asia and a career that it very efficiently. they put enormous effort into it and so the asian countries have better preparedness for this. they had some in the cdc but it was destroyed under the current administration is my impression so they did not really
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delete. asia is the one that kind of belief basically and europe has not been very good at this.|j belief basically and europe has not been very good at this. i must ask you about lockdown and whether they area you about lockdown and whether they are a good idea. we have heard the netherlands saying another lockdown may be needed and the look at exa m ples may be needed and the look at examples like sweden which decided not to have won the first time around and is not having one now, what a speeding telling us about how to approach this virus? -- sweden. i think the lockdown is too much to do. people get tired and they lose respect and 40 lockdown will be too much. you will need to look at this super spreader and limit them and that's basically what sweden did. the most, the only really intervention may be to say that the mx was 50 and of course that was more without damaging our life but making a left on where we only go home that, i think it is too much. now we know so much about
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the disease it's overwhelming. we should be able to do it but we should be careful when we are in a public space. you seem to be saying that having looked at this virus for over six months now you think sweden got it right? i think sweden got it basically right he did not do it right in the beginning but basically they got it right. cn has basically kind of what they have done since april that has basically been right, they did not do right in march. thank you forjoining us. lead artist —— lead author on the research the very nature of the way that the virus transmits. much more on covid—19 to the bbc news website. bbc dot—coms —— muse. i want to turn into a story we are hearing from a great dealfrom into a story we are hearing from a great deal from viewers and listeners in nigeria. the growing protests. nigeria's
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head of police says to stop using force against protesters and ordered the release of all those arrested during the demonstration. let me say the pictures from monday. but he you can against people demonstrating him to begin 50 and he had been using powerful water cannons and amnesty international says ten protesters have been killed so far. like these from today have also been going on and it's been happening for a week now. demonstrators are calling for a notorious police unit to be scrapped as the special anti—bribery squad and it's widely accused of human rights violations including torture and exited the —— judicial killings. protesters want to stop. this is footage from 2014 being —— china man hit by police and they
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claim that young people in particular say they are routinely harassed and alleged extorted for money as well. here are some of the protesters. we cannot do that. i worked too hard for my money. stop killing our boyfriends, stop our children. on sunday the authority tried to announce the dissolution of the group but protesters say they heard the premises before. this is the same head of police speaking last year. the operation of the special active robbery squad which is hereby be centralised. become more than about just that police be centralised. become more than aboutjust that police unit be centralised. become more than
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about just that police unit they are looking for the demands and is posted for example they include the creation of an independent body to oversee the allegations of abuse and they say until all of the demands are met the unrest and the protests continue. that is here from ruth she is at the foundation that promotes police reform in nigeria. what you see is that happening goes beyond just the dissolution of cyrus. the exta nt just the dissolution of cyrus. the extant issues revolving around the need for a lasting and sustainable police reform. so people are still on the streets because overall the policing culture by the nigerian police, the management and in terms of the policing architecture is at its lowest. you cannot compare that with best global practices. over time you have a police institution that has been so far anything from the people so you see that there are still issues of extortion and by the example you have cases
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to the police will tell you you still have people being extracted at various police stations on the road at checkpoints and roadblocks you cannot move easily. you still have the police extracting and if you are not able to pass some notes you end up with the rights being violated and then in terms of the streets where you have the average youth hitting the has been a priest and coach young nigerian youth that are seen in flash cards and bees are seen as internet fraudsters. here is instead a test story from the capital. what we have seen today is that the protest has grown bigger and spread lighter to around a dozen cities across the country but he seem less violence compared to yesterday monday land when we saw multiple
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casualties among the protesters but what is not clear is whether that measures the authorities are taking would actually convince and satisfy the protesters and stop taking to the protesters and stop taking to the streets. one thing some people are saying is that there is a sense that there is more to this protests than police brutality. in a few minutes we will talk about china being elected to the un's top human rights body and you heard that right. bbc has aligned the country is pursuing peace in the middle east with the government there but the confirmation that the un has continued. as you learn about the man in the us who has caught covid—19 twice and doctors are saying the second
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infection was far more severe than the first. according to a study at 25—year—old man got his first wave of symptoms in march and then tested positive for the first time later in april. the man did not have any prior health problems that would make them particularly vulnerable to the virus is in the first case of coronavirus b infection in the us on the fifth confirmed world wide. other cases have been reported in belgium and the i'm in hong kong and for more on this here is our health correspondent. it's a really fascinating case busy in the minority but still really interesting for the scientific community for this case is about 25—year—old man in the young man from the us state of nevada and in april he started experiencing some symptoms, cough, fever, headache, that kind of thing. he was tested for coronavirus and he got a positive result. the symptoms went away and he was tested to my times and gota away and he was tested to my times and got a negative result. then at the end of may he stated
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experiencing the same symptoms again though this time the symptoms were worse. on top of the headache he stated experiencing shortness of breath and had to be hospitalized with oxygen support because his lungs were struggling to pump oxygen around his body. once again he tested positive for coronavirus that is twice in a matter of months. this man was young and he had no underlying health conditions or any undecideds and he has since recovered. what is significant about his case as it suggests previous exposure to covid—19 does not necessarily guarantee immunity. now they have been more than 37 million cases worldwide of coronavirus and only a handful of cases like this. what this study recommends is whether you have previously diagnosed or not we should all be following the same precautions when it comes to protecting ourselves from infection.
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we are here in the bbc news room and i read each story comes from the uk which is recording a big increase in covid—19 cases and bath as part of that country force affected prepares for the arrival of tighter restrictions. in the past half an hour china and russia have been elected to the top human rights body. both have poor human rights records. very poor. the vote happened at the general assembly in new york altogether 15 vacant seats on the human rights council were up for grabs. cuba was uncontested and won a seat and both pakistan and uzbekistan also claimed seats. saudi arabia also ran but failed to get enough votes to make it onto the counter. human rights campaigner as opposed china and russia's membership in the ngo un watch said: it released a 30 page report. this
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one targets chain and said it's logically absurd and marty up see you at the un is about to elect its top human rights body regime that herded 1 million into camps and arrested and crushed and disappeared those that try to sound the alarm about the coronavirus and he goes on. criticism of the un human rights council is not new. in 2018 the us pulled out of it calling it a cesspool of political bias and hypocritical and self—serving. it went on and it says it's a protector of human rights abuses. speak to her. these criticisms are familiarity everyone involved in this council. why did they go ahead and elect somebody or a country like china? the problem here is that the human rights council even though it's focused on human rights is in its essence a political body and it needs to buy in from all of these countries to be able and at
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the end of the babies elections are cited by political horse trading but i do have to say the fact that saudi arabia lost this election and they only got 90 votes. that's below the majority needed and he needed to make the majority to get a seat on the council and you have groups like human rights watch saying this proves that a beat more competitive it would weed out some undeserving countries and be pointed out the fa ct countries and be pointed out the fact that perhaps china or russia would have gotten a seat. a real push here. these groups really emphasise it's that important that the human rights council does have legitimacy because it's absent when the united states left but all of this points to the urgency to have more competitions and that these countries are more eager to improve their rights records and held more accountable when they do not. how does it do its work on a human rights scandal such when one
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of the voting members of the council is the consul perpetuating that? that's the big problem. you have the human rights commission are trying to get access and that has not been successful so far. even though there isa successful so far. even though there is a periodic review of china and other countries for these adhesives in the pub and is there is not real accountability and not much the human rights council can do. that of course it rests with the security council in new york which has more power to hold countries accountable whether it be sanctions or chapter seven resolution but it doesn't send a very bad signal when they are human rights abuses who aren't able to be on the consul. that's why other countries have been calling for more reforms. ultimately it is the nature of how the human rights council works and at the end of the
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day in every country's record gets up day in every country's record gets up to scrutiny in the consul has done some important work in the past when it comes to syria and myanmar and there are indications human rights groups say it's important they are able to carry out that work. this next story is relevant the bbc arabic investigation found some arab states including saudi arabia have been forced to be the parking muslims back to china where they are then thought to be detained. she is married with five children. she is one of many people from the province in china who live in exile. two years ago her husband made a pilgrimage to saudi arabia. while there he was arrested by the police.
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since 2009 china has launched a people's war on terror to tackle what they say it is in the next separatism after violent incidents like the bombing of a train station in 2014. today it's believed over a million ethnic and other religious minorities are detained in camps. former detainees allege those things sat have faced lecture if they refuse to announce their ethnic language and religion. a claim which china denies. among those deported i know three of them. i know them
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personally. they need more than 20 stu d e nts personally. they need more than 20 students and i have their names and i have their names and id so i can say 20. in february of last year the crown prince made a visit to his country's biggest trading partner. china. there he signed a $28 billion worth of agreements including a $10 billion deal to build oil refinery complex in china. during that trip he was appointed by cheney state mediator told his hosts china has the right to carry out anti—terrorism and extremism work for its national security. there we re for its national security. there were fears of terrorism and islamophobia worldwide to justify its policies and to return to china at this time is each one of the most fundamental human rights laws.
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that is eight for this edition of outside source. thank you for watching. today was a pretty cool day for just about all of us but watching. today was a pretty cool day forjust about all of us but in terms of the look of the weather there was some big variations. this is this seeming hastings to afternoon. grey and gloomy conditions with outbreaks of rain. bright skies for the weather watcher in somerset. there are big shower clouds in the background. we had some like leather and dry weather. i think over the next few days we will see increasing amounts of dry weather. some showers the contamination through the night and shower rain across parts of southern and southeastern scotland. showers in the south. five to 8 degrees
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for most of us but sunspots in the far north of scotland will get very close to freezing. into tomorrow we have high pressure to the north and no pressure to the south eating east or north and east wind across the british isles. a brisk breeze which will make it feel to be. maybe some of that piping into northern ireland. he further showers marching in from the north sea and across eastern england into the midlands getting into parts that he flails through the day as well. between the showers they will be spells of sunshine and rain before most of us. windier than it was today not quite as windy as it was today in the north. temperature is it anything a bit higher than they have been today but i think with the strength of the wind it will feel cool and into thursday another cool day. cloudy and windy coming in from the sea. most patients dry and sunshine in the left but a very cool field to the left but a very cool field to the weather and a similar story for
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friday. large slabs of cloud in the sky and producing showers. some bright spells here and there. temperature is struggling between 11 and 13 degrees. as we head into the weekend, high pressure is going to be in charge. it looks as if this high willjust be strong enough to fend off the advances of this deep no spinning down to the southwest. as far as the beacon itself is concerned it's blocking dry for the most pa rt concerned it's blocking dry for the most part and cloudy and chilly with big changes next week. a low pressure will win out and turn wet and windy but also mild.
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